Roger goes in-depth with the 3 different versions of the exquisite Plaubel Makina (67, 67w, and 670) to compare their features and handling. Music: Powehi by DISQO VOLANTE
All the Plaubel cameras are so incredible. The IIIR, rarely used nowadays, is an amazing looking camera that deserves a lot more attention!:) I‘ll probably buy a 670 one day, but i‘ll stick to the agfa optima 1535 for now..
Thanks for a superb, comprehensive review. Had to let go of my W67 recently, unfortunately. The cost of ownership, specifically the cost of film, has been skyrocketing recently and I couldn't justify owning it. If I may, though, there is one thing that irks me about this video... the title! I believe it should say "Mo' Makinas, Mo' Plaubels!" Please change it when you get the chance to read my comment. Thanks again for great content.
Fascinating. What motivates you to keep both the 67 and the 670? I'd have personally just kept the 67 with that awesome grip you have. Thanks for the video!
Hey Roger, can you recommend anyone that services the Makina 67? I see a good deal on one, but want to make sure I can get it checked out by someone who knows these cameras.
Hello. Thank you for the video. I have a question. As I try to remove the film by inserting the makina hand grip into the maki na670, the hole at the bottom of the grip does not fit finely, so it is inconvenient to remove and reinsert the hand grip whenever the film is removed. I'm wondering if it's just mine or if it's because the original hand grip came out for the makina 67.
I was watching a documentary on Helmut Newton on Netflix and noticed he was using a Plaubel Makina (in Monaco). It's a camera I've wanted for some time, but probably will never buy one. But I might :/ Fantastic video on them all, though.
One thing worth mentioning about the 670 (and, presumably, the 67) is that the lens is _fantastic._ Not only extra sharp and contrasty but with a fantastic _bokeh._ It's pure silk. I have yet to see a digital camera lens like this (although Fuji has a bokeh-specific XF-mount lens available, haven't tested it ).
I don't know if i'm the only one, but the Makina really looks like the Mamiya 7 and a Holga had a child. Great video, I would try to get rid of the background noise though, obviously depending on the mic you guys are using.
Vulpes Lagopus I prefer the Plaubel to the Mamiya because it can collapse, even thinner than a Leica M with lens. Sorry about the background noise, we usually shoot with lav mics but on that day we only had a shotgun mic with us. We’ll do better next time
Interesting. Thought the 67 was double stroke and the 670 was single stroke. I will have to do more research! I think I’m going to have the pull the trigger soon!
@@colinrobinson9359 Thank you. Looking at getting a 670 asap... just hoping all the 670 are capable of the overlapping frames as that is part of my narrative work method. Trying to find a clean one in the USA is apparently impossible....
The Nikon lenses used are fantastic. The rest of the cameras are querky and not very durable. Risk of wear light leaks in the bellows is just part of the territory for this style of camera. The fragile shutter release mechanism is famous (Infamous?). There hasn't been a supply of factory parts for many years, so repairs while "possible" as stated are difficult, and most repairmen will not undertake them. Short term, it's a great camera. Long term, it's trouble in a very expensive package.
@@chrisdechristophe Sure. Look at the Fuji GW670 (incl versions II & III). Standard fixed 90mm lens. There many variations, including formats for 6x7, 6x8, and 6x9, as well as another version with 65mm lens in the same formats. The lenses are as good as the Nikkor on the Makina. The body is well know for its robust character. They are not cheap, but cost less than any Makina. If you want to take a real flyer on the cheap, look into the Koni Omege Rapid M, which like the Mamiya 7 has several interchangeable lenses, and unlike the Mamiya, has middle roll interchangeable film magazines. Prices run about 15% of a Mamiya 7.
I had a wedding photographer friend who bought one when Colour prints were required. All his black and white was shot on a Leica M3 and feds and Zorkis as backup. This was in 1968 so it might have been an older version. It was a wide.
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Roger you sir are a master of video titles
grainydays Not gonna life, spent way too much time thinking it up
Videos like this are why I still have faith in TH-cam! Thanks for spending all that money so I don't have to
All the Plaubel cameras are so incredible.
The IIIR, rarely used nowadays, is an amazing looking camera that deserves a lot more attention!:)
I‘ll probably buy a 670 one day, but i‘ll stick to the agfa optima 1535 for now..
sexy cameras. reminds me of how many interesting options we had back in the film days. today all cameras are the same.
fangxu sun Agreed
The Plaubels are super cool and come with a f2.8 on the 67 and 670, but the fragile ribbon for the shutter and meter scared me away.
Joseph Delgadillo From my research everything except the meter is repairable.
I already have a Mamiya 7II but the Makina INTRIGUES me. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the great video, it's super informative and I'm very keen to get one. If you had to choose just one of the three, which would you go with?
Thanks for a superb, comprehensive review. Had to let go of my W67 recently, unfortunately. The cost of ownership, specifically the cost of film, has been skyrocketing recently and I couldn't justify owning it. If I may, though, there is one thing that irks me about this video... the title! I believe it should say "Mo' Makinas, Mo' Plaubels!" Please change it when you get the chance to read my comment. Thanks again for great content.
You are a super Makina aficionado!!
Cool straps!
Fascinating. What motivates you to keep both the 67 and the 670? I'd have personally just kept the 67 with that awesome grip you have. Thanks for the video!
Good video.
jokesNgiggles Thank you!
Hey Roger, can you recommend anyone that services the Makina 67? I see a good deal on one, but want to make sure I can get it checked out by someone who knows these cameras.
Hello. Thank you for the video. I have a question. As I try to remove the film by inserting the makina hand grip into the maki na670, the hole at the bottom of the grip does not fit finely, so it is inconvenient to remove and reinsert the hand grip whenever the film is removed. I'm wondering if it's just mine or if it's because the original hand grip came out for the makina 67.
I was watching a documentary on Helmut Newton on Netflix and noticed he was using a Plaubel Makina (in Monaco). It's a camera I've wanted for some time, but probably will never buy one. But I might :/ Fantastic video on them all, though.
Timothy Roper Thanks for the rec!
One thing worth mentioning about the 670 (and, presumably, the 67) is that the lens is _fantastic._ Not only extra sharp and contrasty but with a fantastic _bokeh._ It's pure silk. I have yet to see a digital camera lens like this (although Fuji has a bokeh-specific XF-mount lens available, haven't tested it ).
I don't know if i'm the only one, but the Makina really looks like the Mamiya 7 and a Holga had a child.
Great video, I would try to get rid of the background noise though, obviously depending on the mic you guys are using.
Vulpes Lagopus I prefer the Plaubel to the Mamiya because it can collapse, even thinner than a Leica M with lens. Sorry about the background noise, we usually shoot with lav mics but on that day we only had a shotgun mic with us. We’ll do better next time
Interesting. Thought the 67 was double stroke and the 670 was single stroke. I will have to do more research! I think I’m going to have the pull the trigger soon!
Just to say you can't double expose on the 670 as it won't fire the shutter unless you advance the film twice with the double stroke lever.
what straps are you using ? they look great
Those are Monarch Straps.. Great strap. I have one with a M6.. pretty comfortable.
Monarch Boa straps, JCH edition (black and red) and Kameracraft edition (black and white)
can you confirm the 670 with a single stoke allows the overlapping frames.... spoke with a tech and he says no but other sources say yes. Thank you!
Yes it sure does. The tech is wrong.
@@colinrobinson9359 Thank you. Looking at getting a 670 asap... just hoping all the 670 are capable of the overlapping frames as that is part of my narrative work method. Trying to find a clean one in the USA is apparently impossible....
The Nikon lenses used are fantastic. The rest of the cameras are querky and not very durable. Risk of wear light leaks in the bellows is just part of the territory for this style of camera. The fragile shutter release mechanism is famous (Infamous?). There hasn't been a supply of factory parts for many years, so repairs while "possible" as stated are difficult, and most repairmen will not undertake them. Short term, it's a great camera. Long term, it's trouble in a very expensive package.
@@chrisdechristophe Sure. Look at the Fuji GW670 (incl versions II & III). Standard fixed 90mm lens. There many variations, including formats for 6x7, 6x8, and 6x9, as well as another version with 65mm lens in the same formats. The lenses are as good as the Nikkor on the Makina. The body is well know for its robust character. They are not cheap, but cost less than any Makina. If you want to take a real flyer on the cheap, look into the Koni Omege Rapid M, which like the Mamiya 7 has several interchangeable lenses, and unlike the Mamiya, has middle roll interchangeable film magazines. Prices run about 15% of a Mamiya 7.
I had a wedding photographer friend who bought one when Colour prints were required. All his black and white was shot on a Leica M3 and feds and Zorkis as backup. This was in 1968 so it might have been an older version. It was a wide.
This camera didn't exist in 1968. It was released in 1978. There are no "older versions". Your friend probably had some other camera by Plaubel.
As far as I know you shound not be able to fire the shutter on 670 if not double winded.
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David Gan Ever more the reason to choose wisely when buying