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  • @markjamesrodgers
    @markjamesrodgers 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3168

    Love how a sales guy on his first day already has another guy "shadowing" him!

    • @NateB
      @NateB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +200

      I think it's a riff on how fast the sales group expands

    • @SayAhh
      @SayAhh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Gotta be a step ahead to get ahead.

    • @ZoruaHunter
      @ZoruaHunter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I love how he gets referred as Keith's shadow in the later episode

    • @dcamron46
      @dcamron46 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SayAhh lmao and lunch time is crunch time

    • @vnvcleto
      @vnvcleto 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Kinda like rappers doing ad libs.

  • @tc2241
    @tc2241 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1183

    “We identified ALL of our underlying issues”
    That’s when knew this was fictional and could not harm me

    • @rothbardfreedom
      @rothbardfreedom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      As a software tester, I have heard these many times.
      And every time what he meant was "we think we have identified....".

    • @fanzhang5568
      @fanzhang5568 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@rothbardfreedom yeah it’s not fantasy, but a comic delivery of the 2 extremes of the idealistic but impractical dev leader and the ruthlessly practical sales guys.

    • @paulogaspar8295
      @paulogaspar8295 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@backstromforsberg people do speak like this speacially in pitching meeting. They allways over exagerate things to a stupid level.

    • @gezenews
      @gezenews 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey Jan here, they call me Jan the man, so what you're seeing here is Richard has built a platform that bypasses the need for a black box. Since it was developed that way, barring predictable flare-up, there is absolutely 0 reason it should not scale unless the devs are garbage. Sorry. It's not that hard. It's hard to go from these cookie cutter Ford factory hump jobs, leave, and develop software correctly. But it's not actually hard.

  • @stickman2012
    @stickman2012 ปีที่แล้ว +259

    "I'm using it as a rhetorical example of a bad idea. That's f***ing stupid."
    This quote lives rent free in my head.

    • @markjamesrodgers
      @markjamesrodgers 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The team loved it!

    • @oompaloompa6064
      @oompaloompa6064 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I’ve used that line a couple of times at work while having meetings with… wait for it… sales team 😂😂😂

  • @someusername121
    @someusername121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +878

    The CEO sitting in for 30 seconds is so true to life. "oh I care enough to show up but not enough to actually listen to anything past the first slide"

    • @Cyril29a
      @Cyril29a 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      It is almost as if they have other things to do.

    • @eccotom1
      @eccotom1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      ​@@Cyril29ayeah they have to do nothing

    • @Cyril29a
      @Cyril29a 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@eccotom1Well if they do nothing you should have no problem getting a job as a CEO then

    • @eccotom1
      @eccotom1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@Cyril29a yeah

    • @simonjester2424
      @simonjester2424 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yeah, watching their horse get bred.

  • @jgrosch94709
    @jgrosch94709 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5105

    I've been in more than a few of those meetings. It makes you want to go out to the parking lot and set their cars on fire. Their reaction would be to form a focus group to decide how they feel about their cars being on fire.

    • @top1percent424
      @top1percent424 7 ปีที่แล้ว +81

      Josef Grosch BEST THING I HAVE READ 😂

    • @409raul
      @409raul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      hahahahaha

    • @DAN420.
      @DAN420. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cool story bro.

    • @coreygolphenee9633
      @coreygolphenee9633 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      On scale of one to five how does everybody feel about your smoldering tesla

    • @chang-kp9sp
      @chang-kp9sp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This new sales team is asking right questions .He is the one gave idiotic answer. Because not everyone is engineers although the sales focus on business to business.

  • @matt72986
    @matt72986 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5733

    I work in tech in Silicon Valley and I can confirm this is exactly how every meeting with the sales teams go.

    • @hmm2928
      @hmm2928 7 ปีที่แล้ว +150

      matt and they introduce themselves like the same way ?

    • @sinrtb
      @sinrtb 7 ปีที่แล้ว +353

      It is actually a habit formed from having most meetings on a phone. Trust me every one in a large decentralized company gets into this habit (I am a business apps developer for a telecom). Having everyone in the same room like that is unheard of.

    • @G7130
      @G7130 5 ปีที่แล้ว +205

      Old comment, but agree. I work in tech implementation for VMware and Dell EMC - Sales does this everywhere. They tell customers a product will do XYZ (when it doesn't) and sell it then we're left holding the bag.

    • @AllenHanPR
      @AllenHanPR 5 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      This is very accurate. Once you're on the phone in a group. It's like listening to one guy.

    • @Music64378
      @Music64378 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @Natasel cause you need sales to make money.

  • @pritishsai
    @pritishsai 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2867

    Who wants to bet that Gilfoyle was responsible for the foreigner image?

    • @SelectiveSnapper
      @SelectiveSnapper 5 ปีที่แล้ว +98

      He twisted Google index for certain keywords to keep Dinesh image popup ? Haha

    • @malangi31
      @malangi31 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      He himself is a foreigner. Lol

    • @lampsizgod
      @lampsizgod 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      When I saw Dinesh being represented as the foreigner, I just lost it.

    • @randicalib
      @randicalib 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ahmad Sakallahl jd M

    • @randicalib
      @randicalib 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes

  • @0ldfashi0ned
    @0ldfashi0ned 4 ปีที่แล้ว +944

    I work at a large tech company and I can attest that the series is more of a documentary than it is fiction.

  • @oswaldcm
    @oswaldcm 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2581

    ... and foreigners.
    that had me rolling on the floor laughing so hard.

    • @nolaughingmatter
      @nolaughingmatter 7 ปีที่แล้ว +143

      Gilfoyle must have put Dinesh's photo there haha

    • @g.dejong7804
      @g.dejong7804 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ben Same

    • @mirjamheijn5214
      @mirjamheijn5214 6 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      "Gilfoyle must have put Dinesh's photo there haha"
      Bit racist to immediately blame the illegal alien.

    • @kevinarzola4781
      @kevinarzola4781 5 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Jared looking over at Richard made it great lmao

    • @-theparliament-sessions6215
      @-theparliament-sessions6215 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You, people, are really something

  • @christyag1177
    @christyag1177 3 ปีที่แล้ว +547

    Can’t agree more! I’m a technical architect but always call myself a developer. Whenever we meet with sales team, they always introduce with their exact long roles and regions lol so true

    • @paulchoi5206
      @paulchoi5206 2 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      I went from UX developer to technical engineer to Lead QA engineer to QA Automation Engineer to developer. I literally do the same thing I did from day 1. Originally hired to do some website interface integrations, but noticed they didn't properly QA stuff, so I just started writing test automations, was asked to transition to that full time. Now I work from home and run 3 scripts and push 4 buttons and my day is done.

    • @bobbobson6290
      @bobbobson6290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@paulchoi5206 needs more automation.
      How can someone play video games in peace while still having to push 4 buttons a day.

    • @phildinh852
      @phildinh852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Technical architects are basically sales engineers though, you don’t write code

    • @StrayCatInTheStreets
      @StrayCatInTheStreets 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@phildinh852 Some of us do- some of us are just principal engineers that also have to draw diagrams for idiots to be able to do their day to day jobs.

    • @alexjeffrey3981
      @alexjeffrey3981 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@StrayCatInTheStreetscan confirm, am principal engineer and have to draw pretty pictures so the BAs can understand.

  • @TrollMeister_
    @TrollMeister_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2565

    Bill Gates who served as a consultant for the show said that many of his friends in Silicon Valley (the place) don’t watch the show because it’s too real and they don’t enjoy the parodying that much. Bill Gates himself is a big fan.

    • @bigduke2140
      @bigduke2140 3 ปีที่แล้ว +125

      Felt the same way about "the office" UK version. Worked with so many people just like that Slough office team. Really could not watch it - made me feel sick to my stomach - still not seen all of it.

    • @lightyagami1752
      @lightyagami1752 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      This is why Silicon Valley is one of my all-time favourites. Behind the comedy, it could almost be a documentary. Just like Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister - this is just an American version of the concept.
      Except for the sixth season, I adore Silicon Valley. The show deserved a better ending.
      May be a bit OT here, but I fell for the hype and started watching a bit of Mr Robot. Big mistake. Pretentious pile of poo, and yes - I "got" the hacking references. It just takes itself too seriously.

    • @TreXXen
      @TreXXen 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No

    • @skoto8219
      @skoto8219 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

      Elon Musk said - and you could tell he was being 100% serious - that Silicon Valley is actually weirder than what you see on the show

    • @gedalyahreback2133
      @gedalyahreback2133 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I've never found the time to watch it, but I've been working in the Tel Aviv startup scene for years. This scene started off too real. Then the whole thing about sales telling engineering what to do and to get rid of machine learning is just nonsense.

  • @AndorranStairway
    @AndorranStairway 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2588

    This isn’t even an exaggeration. Sales people literally talk and behave like this 100%

    • @SelectiveApathy82
      @SelectiveApathy82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I wish they would all drop dead. I mean, they're completely useless! Why the fuck do companies even need them!?

    • @darian1903
      @darian1903 3 ปีที่แล้ว +163

      @@SelectiveApathy82 It’s pretty simple, they bring in revenue. Without revenue the product can’t be built and no one gets paid. The product doesn’t sell itself.

    • @SelectiveApathy82
      @SelectiveApathy82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@darian1903 Well, I truly hope they are absolutely *nothing* like this IRL. If I was Richard, I would have walked right here and taken my product with me. I wouldn't be able to stomach it. Billions and lawsuits be damned.

    • @boohda1995
      @boohda1995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      @@SelectiveApathy82 So.. you say "I wish they would all drop dead" and "they're completely useless" wihout knowing what the actually do...? You apperantly also have never worked with anyone who worked in Sales. In my company... the sales people are a part in the design process... because they know what the industry wants and what the industry needs. They are the key component for b2b and b2c communication...

    • @SelectiveApathy82
      @SelectiveApathy82 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@boohda1995 You misunderstood. I said I wish they would all fuck off and drop dead, IFFFFFF they anything at all like these horrible assholes in the show. If they are helpful and attentive like you describe, then they are definitely valuable and should be there.
      However there is one position I will never change my mind on: I don't care how good the salespeople are in a company, the engineers are MORE valuable and should be respected more.
      The people who actually CREATE an amazing product from scratch with their math, science, and programming ingenuity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the people who peddle it to the masses.

  • @CheesyDoesItCooking
    @CheesyDoesItCooking 4 ปีที่แล้ว +803

    all of this is accurate except in my world, they already sold the box and we're having a meeting on how i can deliver the box within a week

    • @Staysyk
      @Staysyk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      So true...

    • @vonb2792
      @vonb2792 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      1 week! That's a lot of time!

    • @velvetimpulse
      @velvetimpulse 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Damn, so true. Happens at my company all the time. Sales is unhinged. What's worse, I work in marketing, so often we are told (by Sales) to create landing pages and market stuff that doesn't exist because they already sold it and need to make it look like it does.
      It's pretty darn close to criminal.

  • @Lcarter52
    @Lcarter52 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1162

    poor dinesh. dude just wanted some coconut water and got tagged as a 'FOREIGNER'

    • @AnthonyLi
      @AnthonyLi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      not hot dog

    • @prasanth_m7
      @prasanth_m7 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      he was a foreigner

    • @TodorescuProgramming
      @TodorescuProgramming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@prasanth_m7 actually he is not, he has citizenship and his family for generations... gilfoyle is a foreigner since he just moved from canada and doesn't have papers

    • @prasanth_m7
      @prasanth_m7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@TodorescuProgramming actually he was.....He immigrated from pakistan, he also mentions that it took 5 years to get citizenship for him and got questioned about al-qaeda. I dont get where you got that retarded statement of he and his family being citizens for generations. He immigrated from pakistan

    • @teamyordle23
      @teamyordle23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@TodorescuProgramming Actually, in the same episode where Gilfoyle was found out to be an illegal immigrant, he went to the DMV or wherever and got his citizenship within 5 minutes while Dinesh was still trying to find parking.

  • @wickandde
    @wickandde 6 ปีที่แล้ว +284

    Lost my shit seeing Dinesh's confused face pop up on the "...and foreigners" part 😂

    • @fasahatkhan8642
      @fasahatkhan8642 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      same. lol

    • @DeViLTh0rn
      @DeViLTh0rn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      funniest shit LMAO

    • @ijazkhan3335
      @ijazkhan3335 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I laughed more at Jared looking at Richard right after it

    • @TheHadi545
      @TheHadi545 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao first snowden and then Dinesh 🤣🤣🤣 too good

  • @cry2love
    @cry2love 3 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Richard - DON'T do the box, it's the worst idea ever possible
    The team - The box it is

  • @malighos
    @malighos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +469

    What I learned as a software engineer is never tell sales what you might work on or they will sell not implemented features and force you to implement shit that might even be bad.

    • @PropaneWP
      @PropaneWP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      And when the angry customers inevitably call because their shit doesn't work, they give them your personal number.

    • @bounty1402
      @bounty1402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I've seen this many times in different companies.
      //End of the comment.
      /*---------------------------*/
      I worked in a company where I was left in a corner answering the phone and taking care of assistance tickets, but I had a permanent contract and a decent salary. Then I decided to change jobs and work for a new small company where I was the only developer. Little did I know they had already sold the software I was working on to three companies.
      I had to work literally day and night to catch up, prove myself and meet the expectations. I mean I worked up to 14 hours a day....it was a good experience, I earned a lot of experience but it was unsustainable, then after a while I changed jobs again and now I work for a bigger company, have a higher salary and work "only" up to 48 hours a week. I know that without my previous experience I wouldn't have found my current (and better) job.
      I'm Italian by the way, and English is my third language.

    • @gruweldaad
      @gruweldaad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why isn’t your work being done for the benefit of the customer?

    • @ResilientFighter
      @ResilientFighter ปีที่แล้ว

      Too real

    • @John_Fx
      @John_Fx ปีที่แล้ว

      “How hard would it be to…”

  • @clasmata
    @clasmata 5 ปีที่แล้ว +307

    Rumour has it he is still shadowing Keith.

    • @NateB
      @NateB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      From the shadows.

    • @ZoruaHunter
      @ZoruaHunter 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      "And do you take Keith as your husband?"
      "Shadowing for Keith, I do"

    • @MirzaAhmed89
      @MirzaAhmed89 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Jan is still The Man.

  • @robhodges6019
    @robhodges6019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    "I'm using it as a rhetorical example of a bad idea!" Incredible line lmao

    • @stickman2012
      @stickman2012 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This quote lives rent free...followed my "It's f***ing stupid.

  • @shahirabdullah5438
    @shahirabdullah5438 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    That horse scene will haunt me for the rest of my life

  • @Trazynn
    @Trazynn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +250

    Haha 0:18 I only just noticed that sales woman has a keyboard with a smartphone plugged into it. Doesn't even use a laptop.

    • @latinolawdog5067
      @latinolawdog5067 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      That's Jan. But people call her "Jan The Man".

    • @mikelrivas7561
      @mikelrivas7561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@latinolawdog5067 he is talking about the other woman

    • @latinolawdog5067
      @latinolawdog5067 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      MIKEL RIVAS ah, shit, you’re right. That ruins my joke.

    • @mbk0mbk
      @mbk0mbk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@latinolawdog5067 let's call her Jan the other man .

    • @pointlesslylukesplainingpo1200
      @pointlesslylukesplainingpo1200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mikelrivas7561 That's not Jan, Jan the Man

  • @Lius525
    @Lius525 7 ปีที่แล้ว +582

    Jan the man is so handsome.

    • @peesicle
      @peesicle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      First

    • @malangi31
      @malangi31 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Her face is so sexy

    • @MirzaAhmed89
      @MirzaAhmed89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      It's a trap.

    • @rock3tcatU233
      @rock3tcatU233 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@MirzaAhmed89 Would still hit that.

  • @JoeyVSupreme
    @JoeyVSupreme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +295

    The irony that The Box was Richard’s nightmare and Galvin and Jack’s dream, which led to their downfall and ultimately Richard (and the gang)’s success. What phenomenal story telling.

    • @shadmanbinayub108
      @shadmanbinayub108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Spoiler Alert:
      Richard also falls & ultimately working in Belson's name in the end of the series.

    • @JoeyVSupreme
      @JoeyVSupreme 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      I loved the ending. The entire series, the gang wants to get rich and change the world. And they do change the world, but don’t get rich. And it’s not treated like this woe is me story. I don’t think that silicone valley could’ve ended any better.

    • @shadmanbinayub108
      @shadmanbinayub108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@JoeyVSupreme By not letting Piep Pier AI control the world, Richard did make the world a better place. That's the positive side. That's why he said," I think we did okay".

    • @van-hieuvo8208
      @van-hieuvo8208 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      There's nothing wrong with the box in and of itself. It's just that Gavin has always been a self-sabotaging idiot because of his obsessiveness, pettiness, and vindictiveness.

    • @Pantsinabucket
      @Pantsinabucket ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JoeyVSupremeI mean Jian Yang got to fuck off to SE Asia and stole Erlich’s identity and presumably assets, plus sold off that house for likely millions of dollars. Bighead still has all the money his dad saved for him (Russ buys him out of PP the day before launch). Monica works for the NSA and probably sold PP’s codebase for hefty fortune, while Gilfoyle and Dinesh are big businessmen. In the end the only non-rich characters from the main cast are Richard and Jared, and even then Jared’s well-off enough to volunteer full time at a nursing home.

  • @SinaGhashghaei
    @SinaGhashghaei 3 ปีที่แล้ว +233

    What people are missing in this scene is how the founder is always the best sales person.

    • @SuperPraveenkumarpk
      @SuperPraveenkumarpk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I mean yeah he was the one who came up with the box idea.

  • @montyi8
    @montyi8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    This show was gold, hope they make new shows like this

    • @phillspencer
      @phillspencer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Mythic quest is similar

  • @dank6617
    @dank6617 6 ปีที่แล้ว +142

    "Think inside the box" lol

  • @divineinterruption9816
    @divineinterruption9816 5 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    Was in tech sales for 2 big companies (one of which has really fast electric cars). Sales meetings at both places were the worst and biggest waste of time. Our managers were all from purse companies and knew nothing about tech lol

    • @hmm2928
      @hmm2928 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      How accurate is silicon valley in representing the tech world in usa ?

    • @vetvet9088
      @vetvet9088 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Akash Gupta it’s scary how accurate it is. The show’s creator is know for making his content, like Office Space, realistic to relate to people. Of course he uses exaggeration for comedic effect, but… quite realistic nonetheless 😳

    • @DataLog
      @DataLog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I found that 80% of communications with clients and meetings in general are useless waste of time. I literally lose half of my day and have done nothing. And I still have tasks on my table that I have to cram in somewhere...

    • @hoppinghobbit9797
      @hoppinghobbit9797 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      At least the sales people from Hooli knew what the customers wanted.

  • @top1percent424
    @top1percent424 7 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    That deep learning part was so on point. I love this show!!!!

  • @seanwebb605
    @seanwebb605 2 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    Richard screwed up. For a long time he had an algorithm and didn't understand what he wanted to do with it. Eventually he landed on New Internet. But his product, service and business plan was vague and unfocused. He accidently hit on a a strategy to create the company's minimal viable product. Action Jack recognized that you could understand a data storage box. You could market and sell that product and service. You could charge a fee for ongoing service. All of the triangles aligned for Jack. Richard wanted funding, structure, resources and people to continue on the idea and find the business model later. Previous investors said sell ads and collect data.
    I do love that the entire premise of the show became open systems versus closed systems. And the benefits and risks of each. Cool stuff.

    • @bdidue6998
      @bdidue6998 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Technically Jack's sell wasn't bad. What was bad however, is they lost proprietary ownership of the algorithm in one case, and I believe they also forfeited work on it for a few years as well in another.

  • @ZackIAm
    @ZackIAm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    As someone who’s on a sales team in a tech company…. This is exactly how people introduce and how these type of meetings go 😂

  • @rachellejanssen2655
    @rachellejanssen2655 6 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    for me usually it's the other way around
    "we need it to be secure"
    "right"
    "but no logins, that's disruptive user flow"
    "wait what?"
    "we don't want strangers on our platform, we need to link the service to a person"
    "right but"
    "so that our partners can contact our clients, eliminating much of our middle man involvement"
    "but you need to store user info and login credentials for that to work!"
    "no we don't? they have their mobile phone where they use the finger print scanner"
    "not every phone has a finger print scanner!"
    "well that's not our problem, is it? we don't make phones, we are a logistics company"

  • @jamesallen5591
    @jamesallen5591 6 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    This is the first I have ever seen of this show. I think I'm going to get hooked on it.

  • @stephenc8
    @stephenc8 8 ปีที่แล้ว +803

    Jan the man lol

    • @planetruths1373
      @planetruths1373 6 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Mcrey Fonacier cause she's hot.

    • @wildreams
      @wildreams 6 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Because you like Man.

    • @JH-ji6cj
      @JH-ji6cj 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @air pods you're hot for her code, er, the other c word....wait, the other-OTHER C word

    • @dariellamberto4454
      @dariellamberto4454 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She's high level feminazi

    • @sadhanabrataroy9117
      @sadhanabrataroy9117 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If Jan is the man... Then who is Becky Lynch???

  • @nowbut178
    @nowbut178 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    "they called me Jan the man" she so proud about her name 😂😂😂

  • @cdgtopnp
    @cdgtopnp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    It never occurred to me while watching the show but this clip makes it perfectly clear---- Jeff Washburn is Steve Ballmer

  • @thomasnn
    @thomasnn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +742

    Thats a lot of mac book airs on one table

    • @kylenetherwood8734
      @kylenetherwood8734 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Thomas Nilsson Product placement

    • @falseego99
      @falseego99 7 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      tech startups , specially software , usually prefer to give those to every employee to handle heavy ram usage softwares/ editors

    • @joseluki
      @joseluki 6 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      Go to any university in the UK or USA.

    • @nomader5537
      @nomader5537 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      wtf are you talking about?

    • @nomader5537
      @nomader5537 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      exactly

  • @fabriccioman
    @fabriccioman 8 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    This was a superhilarious scene! I loled so hard. I love Silicon Valley.

  • @the3rdid485
    @the3rdid485 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Wow. That horse blew so much it literally overflowed and smacked down on the floor super loud. Damn son.

    • @clivenazareth7069
      @clivenazareth7069 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      How is the horse portion the least insane thing in this scene

    • @jimboblordofeskimos
      @jimboblordofeskimos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@clivenazareth7069 Its even more insane when you realise that they must have had the actors just standing around infront of the horses waiting for them to fuck so they could get the shot.

    • @SumoCumLoudly
      @SumoCumLoudly 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jimboblordofeskimos no, the actors would turn up at the scheduled time of the mating

  • @SP-ny1fk
    @SP-ny1fk ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is a factual representation of a sales team.
    If you know, you know.

  • @nulI_dev
    @nulI_dev ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I don't think any show will ever be able to top this. This series was a fucking masterpiece

  • @lucgh2007
    @lucgh2007 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "No, no, no! I'm using it as a rethorical example of a bad idea. THAT'S FUCKING STUPID!". hahahahahahahahah

  • @thepowerlies
    @thepowerlies 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Richard's face in the end : "kill me now please"

  • @nonyabeeznuss304
    @nonyabeeznuss304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I don't work in tech, but I helped write fiction for a web community. It was just a for fun project, we had about 2,500 writers, and about a dozen web developers. Was pretty fun, the techies got to do tech stuff, the writers got to have a platform, and we actually had an audience of about 10,000 readers. Then one day somebody showed up "WHAT YOU NEED IS SOMEBODY TO REALLY SELL THIS CONTENT!"
    Literally everything after that is just one pointless conference meeting after another about trivial bullshit that had nothing to do with web development or fiction writing. One day I was like "wait a fuckin minute... who the hell even let them in here? We aren't even a business. We don't fuckin SELL anything!"
    Moral of the story: even a tiny bit of success summons the coat tail riders out of the woodwork.

    • @bobbobson6290
      @bobbobson6290 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And how much did you sell?

    • @nonyabeeznuss304
      @nonyabeeznuss304 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@bobbobson6290 Absolutely nothing.

  • @StudioStar
    @StudioStar 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Every minute of this show is like a finely choreographed ballet of comedy

  • @Issara86
    @Issara86 5 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Every. Sales. Meeting. I've been in.

  • @Scrumtrulescent1
    @Scrumtrulescent1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    The really sad thing is that this is barely an exaggeration

  • @hkharryfunk
    @hkharryfunk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    Is that guy supposed to be Steve Ballmer?

    • @robertchristensen9949
      @robertchristensen9949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Sort of, in the show he is portrayed to be similar, at one point giving a presentation saying “I love this company” like Ballmer did

  • @Nedwin
    @Nedwin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Love the scrum presentation. Nice scene.

  • @anmolt3840051
    @anmolt3840051 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Ironic that Richard's insistence on learning ultimately doomed the company

  • @johnnychang3456
    @johnnychang3456 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember laughing while watching this episode many years ago. Now as I grow older with more experience in business, the sales team actually make sense and the box is a pretty good idea at least in B2B world.

  • @macabrew
    @macabrew 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I love how it just glazes over 2 horses going ham rofl

  • @dazzaondmic
    @dazzaondmic 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "That's fucking stupid!" .. That's where I lost it lol

  • @Mushruums
    @Mushruums 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Every office has a Jan the Man

  • @davidhoward2481
    @davidhoward2481 8 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I've been in front of these people ... OMFG!

  • @kimeraevent
    @kimeraevent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Having sales people on staff before you have even finished and begin the process to ship your product is a good way to waste the funding you just killed yourself to get. They sit there doing nothing and collecting a decent sized check for it.

    • @AkshayAradhya
      @AkshayAradhya 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Or in my case they start promising clients that x and y features are going to be there in the product when the developers haven't even planned for it.

    • @mrunknown4526
      @mrunknown4526 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn't agree more...you never now what applications can emerge from a piece of tech...they will do what is easy to do

  • @SilverScarletSpider
    @SilverScarletSpider 5 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    The picture of Dinesh was hilarious 🤣

  • @JohnDoe-fo9ri
    @JohnDoe-fo9ri 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    "SPIES..."
    *Edward Snowden shows up*
    Hahaha, holy shit.

  • @akashdebnath8492
    @akashdebnath8492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    When they say foreigners and shows Dinesh's face , that is so funny 😂😂

  • @09aleemkhan
    @09aleemkhan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    And foreigners part dineshs’ face cracked me rolling on the floor.

  • @mrshadow4007
    @mrshadow4007 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    3:10 How many takes did they have to do to get the hirses to bang in the background?

  • @TombstoneHeart
    @TombstoneHeart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +86

    My son has worked in IT for about 20 years now and his biggest bug-bear, among many, is stupid sales people making impossible promises to potential clients that the tech people simply can't deliver. He has always said that their ability to lie endlessly is only surpassed by their moronic inability to see that their lies will cost everyone time and money......and future clients.

    • @PropaneWP
      @PropaneWP 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because in sales the dominating culture is competing for making the most sales. They don't give a shit about long term. They don't work for the company, they work for making the highest commission possible.

    • @diarmuidosullivan7391
      @diarmuidosullivan7391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      They get the commission now and don't care about anything else.

    • @if-constexpr
      @if-constexpr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      This is 100% true. Happened at the first company I worked in, where the CEO would do this; then a decision was made to have the CTO accompany the CEO, so that he doesn't make such moronic mistakes.

    • @spacegerrit9499
      @spacegerrit9499 ปีที่แล้ว

      Service Delivery Managers can be a pain too.
      "Hello customer, you wan't 24/7 security service? Even though that's not in the agreed SLA. No problem, it's done!"
      SDM to ME, a Cyber Security Officer: "Oh yeah, btw, you will have to have your phone on you at all times."
      Me: "What, like in the evenings?"
      "Yeah, and the weekends."
      "Wait what? I have no free time anymore?"
      "I guess? Gotta go! Bye!"
      Bunch of morons.

    • @ResilientFighter
      @ResilientFighter ปีที่แล้ว

      100000% spot on. This is too real..

  • @Lcarter52
    @Lcarter52 6 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    just gonna go ahead and say Jan the man can still get it

  • @nomooon
    @nomooon 8 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    those are some magnificent stallions

    • @bedford4383
      @bedford4383 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Well there's only one stallion so... That's a magnificent stallion.

    • @bleughbloop8569
      @bleughbloop8569 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      could be a gay horse?

    • @shaunpearson7905
      @shaunpearson7905 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Way to miss the funniest element of the joke, McShithead.

    • @tanhougimsamuel3382
      @tanhougimsamuel3382 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And because of Season 5, this comment is relevant again!

  • @dromedda6810
    @dromedda6810 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This show made me appreciate my job so much more, because i never realized how much worse it could've been

  • @Lord_Falcon
    @Lord_Falcon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Great example of how support teams often get too over confident about their position and start trying to control the business and change product. As support you should never try to make change to the core. You may be consulted on relevant matters but you don't get to enforce your will.

    • @christiansarrazin4802
      @christiansarrazin4802 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Its a 2 way street. Support staff usually understand the market more than the tech side.
      The sales team hear what clients wants and, at the end of the day, the clients pay you.

    • @ZackIAm
      @ZackIAm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Definitely a two way street and both need to work in harmony.

    • @elagrion
      @elagrion ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@christiansarrazin4802 Yes, but they hear "We want a faster horse", and if your company doesn't have enough foresight to understand that car IS a faster horse, they might kill a car project in the crib.

  • @morrisndegwa1324
    @morrisndegwa1324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    so no one noticed Kieth, North Eastern Regional exchanging places and shirts with his colleague in the same meeting?

  • @023achilles
    @023achilles 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ooh ooh, I hope they do one on purchasers (instead of just sales). What I get told is "We want this, and exactly this, we are willing to pay this price (and no more), and we want it fast, by this date."
    Then I have to tell them "Well, what you are looking for is not available, or not currently, and certainly not at that price." And then I'm the bad guy! Yay!

  • @neoblackcyptron
    @neoblackcyptron 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I like the technical jargon. It makes sense. It’s not just buzz words. They’re technical writer is good.

    • @lovestop101
      @lovestop101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The irony is strong 💪

    • @gilian2587
      @gilian2587 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Their technical writer is good.

  • @Zackstrife29
    @Zackstrife29 8 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    That guy Don, hes the blue ranger from Power Rangers Wild Force.

    • @rock3tcatU233
      @rock3tcatU233 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The guy who killed his girlfriend with a katana? Or was that the red one?

    • @mbeatz17
      @mbeatz17 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rock3tcatU233 it was the red one.

    • @mbeatz17
      @mbeatz17 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Man I thought he was an asian guy

    • @ranjan_v
      @ranjan_v 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They all look the same

  • @sqlevolicious
    @sqlevolicious 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The accuracy of the dead-eyed slimy sales people listening, but-not-at-all-listening, to company projection and engineering talk with the lead programmer is just so damn real. I have literally been in this same exact room multiple times.

  • @archieandrews8457
    @archieandrews8457 8 ปีที่แล้ว +440

    Damn foreigners...

    • @rock3tcatU233
      @rock3tcatU233 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      BROWN foreigners.
      dun dun dun....

    • @ericcartmansh
      @ericcartmansh 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      osamaBinFuckin

    • @abbyvilayne
      @abbyvilayne 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Hey, what's up, al-Qaeda?

    • @haxterk
      @haxterk 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      They should have said Immigrants :D but I guess its all the same :P

  • @jonatanwestholm
    @jonatanwestholm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    1:36 I'm sorry who is this guy? He didn't preface his response with his name and position

    • @tenorgames
      @tenorgames 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He said he was there, so I am going with Elrond or Brian Williams.

  • @philipfry9436
    @philipfry9436 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    *You are the man, Jan.*

  • @kamranbashir4842
    @kamranbashir4842 5 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    The box was a pretty good idea. It will save companies a lot of money they spend on security and networking. Why not do the both? Sell the boxes to get the income stream flowing and make the app free for normal users to improve the algorithm...

    • @TylerTheTiler
      @TylerTheTiler 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Because the box was a rhetorical example of a bad idea. A box of data with things on it that no one knows about or has access to is not useful for most applications of that idea.

    • @SuperHipsterGamer
      @SuperHipsterGamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@TylerTheTiler It's a box using the compression algorithm that is beyond ridicilous in its efficiency. Companies have by far the largest ammount of data, and would mean huge savings for them in maintenance of server data storage. The box is a good idea to generate revenue, what is bad is how they sell the box with a exclusivity clause preventing them from developing the platform as well.

  • @RichardFangLiu
    @RichardFangLiu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    It's funny because it's entirely true. The traditional storage / backup hardware space continuously makes more money for sales reps than selling software licenses. It's why the sales team loved the idea LOL

    • @guesswho2590
      @guesswho2590 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah and they are right. What Richard wanted to do is more like a charity. There's no real business there.

  • @uwuk_hai
    @uwuk_hai 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    my brain just died when every sales clapped their hands in awe...

  • @AnyFactor
    @AnyFactor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    This demonstrates an important aspect though. SAAS/startups now have multi tiered pricing for this reason.
    You harvest data, test stuff and provide low reliability upgrades on the individual level consumer while you provide the highest value to enterprise making the big bucks. Enterprise ARR allows you the security to whatever you want to do.
    Richard has no idea of revenue side of a startup.

  • @KishorTwist
    @KishorTwist 8 ปีที่แล้ว +208

    Snowden is a fudging hero to me!

    • @majskukka3279
      @majskukka3279 8 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Watch your profanity

    • @Lazyguy22
      @Lazyguy22 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Death to Snowden, toffee will prevail!

    • @faustosar6151
      @faustosar6151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      🤘 Snowden.

  • @Replicant2600
    @Replicant2600 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As a technical solutions consultant, it’s hard to explain what I do, but when they ask I send them this clip as an almost exact representation.

  • @jantjehouten5806
    @jantjehouten5806 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That foreigners line with Dinesh always cracks me up

  • @gogl0l386
    @gogl0l386 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Omg if he followed Jan the man's advice pied piper wouldn't have failed.

  • @markjamesrodgers
    @markjamesrodgers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is one of the best constructed and executed scenes of all time.

  • @user-jp3qu6vh3h
    @user-jp3qu6vh3h 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The never ending war between sales and engineering.

  • @dr_IkjyotSinghKohli
    @dr_IkjyotSinghKohli ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When someone from Deloitte infiltrates your tech company and starts attending meetings...

  • @loooke7197
    @loooke7197 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    you can hate the sales team, but the Box is the only market viable product Pied piper ever made

  • @Austinkungfuacademy
    @Austinkungfuacademy ปีที่แล้ว

    That look Jared and Richard gave each other at 3:39 after they posted Dinesh's picture for "foreigners" had me ROLLING!!!

  • @swyxTV
    @swyxTV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    how did they time the horses so perfectly

    • @NN-sp9tu
      @NN-sp9tu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Notice the camera doesn’t move. They probably edited in the footage in post

  • @evangelism2
    @evangelism2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sales and product people are the bane of all engineers.

  • @timmy7201
    @timmy7201 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    It always starts with an engineer building a product, based on a good idea.
    The engineer hires more engineers, so that the product development progresses more rapidly.
    A great product is meanwhile sold, whilst the engineers tweak and improve it down the line.
    The engineer hates all the business stuff, thus someone MBA receives the position of CEO.
    At a certain point one wants to sell more of the product, thus a sales department is introduced.
    The sales people are very good at selling themselves, thus they take over control of the actual product development.
    The product is meanwhile selling rapidly with great success, thanks to the work of set great engineers that made it.
    Sales department runs away with all fame and glory...
    Couple months/years later, most engineers have left, as they didn't have any say in the actual product development.
    The product becomes dated and outperformed / overtaken by (cheaper) competitors.
    Sales and MBA-CEO refuse to see that the previous success was a result of good engineering, not a good sales department.
    More dumb decisions are being made, without requesting any input of an actual engineer...
    That's how it typically goes in tech...
    It ends by either the MBA-CEO leaving in time, so that the previous engineer can save the company. Or the MBA-CEO taking the company down with him-self...

    • @tyrellcobb4665
      @tyrellcobb4665 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lol. Apple computers.

    • @TheJuryan
      @TheJuryan ปีที่แล้ว

      is this what's happening to discord

    • @xhelloselm
      @xhelloselm 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sure, because engineers are usually so good at understanding what customers want.

    • @timmy7201
      @timmy7201 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@xhelloselm Customers don't even know what they want themselves! Then how should anyone else know?
      Engineers however know, what they want to see in a product themselves. So if the engineers get a chance to work out what's in their head, it would usually work out great. Sadly management and sales don't understand and/or get the engineers vision and scraps it prior to execution. Just do some research on the "xerox parc" flop, it's the best example possible!
      You also forget that there are many engineering departments, making "parts" of larger products. I'm 100% certain, that the engineers at Intel and AMD, know what their customers want! They want faster and more energy efficient CPU's. Just as the engineers at Boeing know what their customers want, they want more energy efficient planes that are easy to operate without new pilot training!
      It's usually sales and management, who think they know what the customer wants. The engineers their warnings towards sales and management being wrong, are usually ignored. Yet when everything goes south, it's the engineering department who's blamed for everything!
      But having said all of that, I guess you're working in a sales department and will ignore everything I've written here anyways...

    • @fullstack4284
      @fullstack4284 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Google absolute heap of trash on fire under sunder

  • @tiechengspreadsheets
    @tiechengspreadsheets 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "They way you keep best salespeople is you need to give them something easy to sell"

  • @Jay16Mar
    @Jay16Mar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'll admit, I'm glad they repeated their names. Didn't catch all of them the first time around, except for Jan "the man."

  • @froggy2991
    @froggy2991 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “no no NO I’m using it as a rhetorical example of a bad idea……that’s fucking stupid!” Best line & delivery for me

  • @justapasserby9751
    @justapasserby9751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    How is no one talking about how they used Snowden's image for spies?

    • @jimboblordofeskimos
      @jimboblordofeskimos 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      There are names that google does not like and it hides them

  • @BRBallin1
    @BRBallin1 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Some say Doug is still shadowing Keith

  • @LetsBeHuman
    @LetsBeHuman 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    this is what would have happened in dropbox and mark cuban backed off.
    Because dropbox/box decided to go for businesses first and concentrate less on people.

  • @graytonw5238
    @graytonw5238 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Think inside the box", omg, this dovetails perfectly with Jack Barker's infamous "conjoined triangles of success", which is literally a box.

  • @grub-g1j
    @grub-g1j 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When the heard the bros phone go off during the recording i thought it was mine

  • @AlexD-up2ky
    @AlexD-up2ky 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wtf those horses caught me tf off guard

  • @prudvi01
    @prudvi01 7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I just lost it when they showed foreigners 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @tylerwinkle323
    @tylerwinkle323 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    the sales guys were actually preventing Skynet from happening the whole time!