Agreed. And honestly, more than most, Arn would be justified if he did. Paul Roma, Sid, Nash, Dusty, Jim Herd, Vince, Ole, Benoit. Yeah, he has every right to go for the throat on all of those guys, but he doesn't. Because he's a fucking man and knows he may not ever fuck with you like that again, but the secrets stay for life.
Arn is a man. Arn is the man. Talk about someone who GETS it. Notice how he didn't bury anybody.. He basically said good on you. I just gained a lot more respect for Arn listening to this. Hope he's doing well. 👏👏
Arn you are/were my favorite Horseman. All business and great talker and I wasn't a big heel fan then, but I enjoyed you and Ole the most as far as heels went. No nonsense and could work. Thanks from Tidewater,VA area and still a Mid-Atlantic JCP fan. My childhood wouldn't of been the same without you.
Also at that time the Road Warriors could write their own ticket with promotions. They just came off a successful fun in Verne's territory, and were in the process of getting over as all f**k in Japan(almost to the level of Brody and Hanson). If a promoter wanted their services, they had to agree to their terms. Plus they also had Paul as their real manager and he had a good business sense.
It's true what he said about the promotion being a success based on the 4 horsemen being a part of it. I wasn't interested in watching it as much as i did if it wasn't for arn and Tully being tag champions. They were the best at what they did.
Conrad: Arn knows me and I'm shooting with this. Dusty sent Lex up to our camp as he couldn't even do a sunset flip over the top rope. He looked great, but that was it. Arn doesn't give himself enough credit.
Well you sound like a mark. Let's list the number of stars who didn't need to do a sunset flip over the top rope...Christ this is why wrestling today sucks because the unsuccessful conned Meltzer, who sold a generation of smarks turned talent, that movesets and workrate makes a worker.
@@78bcat🙄 stop using wrestling terms trying to sound smarter A sunset flip is an exceedingly basic move useful to measure agility in a wrestling school If the other guy's actually a wrestler I don't know But don't use terminology when you don't understand what it means Its an insult to those who have actually gotten into the business And it makes you the worlds biggest Mark
The Road Warriors deserved to be the highest paid act in the company, given how every promotion around the world at the time was trying to copy them with two roidy guys in face-paint. But Lex making two and a half times what Arn was? That's just insane and he was right to be furious about it.
The road warriors had a muscle bound punk rock look with cool haircuts, the wwf version of them, you know who, those other two big flabby guys looked like two granddads from the moose lodge playing with makeup .
@@jasonchandler2463 Not really, watch some of the old tapeing's from 1984-early 86 and then when Luger came came along, the roided up monsters started taking over
Out of all the wrestler podcasts, I really like Arn's because he's humble, doesn't put himself or his friends over, and seems very honest about his time in the business. Nor does he seem to embellish unlike some people (Bruce Pritchard).
Not really. With their look at the time they were going to be big anywhere they went. Ole was lucky to be the first to get them more than they were lucky they got ole
@Gene Bone What is it with you, just Trolling all over this page with negative comments about Arm Were you even old enough to have seen the Horsemen form?
Arn has the right approach. There will always be someone less talented or who is less deserving making more money than you. But there will also be people more deserving getting less money than you. Such is life and it will NEVER change. Blaming the people getting the money doesn't solve anything when the gripe (if you have one) should be with who's agreeing to pay those amounts.
The WWF should have put the IC belt on Arn Anderson he was one hell of a heal and one hell of a wrestler I enjoyed all his matches tag team and singles he was one of the heals as a kid I actually rooted for.
Arn is correct about without them they wouldn't have drawn near the houses they drew. My guess is that Lugar and Road Warriors got top dollar and guaranteed contracts because Crockett knew they were exactly what WWF wanted and he didn't want them scooped up.
I'll probably get hate from the nerdy internet wrestling fans for this but it doesn't surprise me for one second that Luger got paid more than Arn and if I were a booker at the time that didn't have the benifit of hindisight and only had the knowedge in front of me at the time I would have probably wanted Luger more too. Regardless of wrestling experience Arn Anderson looked like a footwear salesman whereas Lex Luger looked like He-Man.
Wrestling loves ex football players,especially in the 80s..=luger getting the contract..Warriors were like give us the same money or we go back to the awa or wwf.
Luger and LOD made the kind of money they made because they were worth it. As for workers like Tully and Arn no offense but in that era, we were loaded with workers that had talent. To compare classes of wrestlers like Tully who was 5'11 not much of a body, great ring skills but was a coke head. He could be replaced by Al Perez, who had a better body face was younger and could work. Arn could be replaced by Paul Orndorf, again better body better looking and just as tough if not tougher. Luger and LOD are once in a lifetime athletes that don't usually wrestle they play Football just like SCSA and the Rock. Today, nobody like that wrestles and you want to know why? No heavyweights. This ain't middleweight wrestling or light heavyweight wrestling. This is Heavyweight wrestling and I pay to see heavyweights. Not a bunch of middleweight flippity flippers. That's why it sucks.
@Gene Bone not on the mic, and certainly not in the ring They had to put Luger with the Wolfpack (which I enjoyed) because he couldn't get over on his own in WWF or WCW
Luger came to the table with an agent. Who negotiated the deal. 6ft 5in, 275 lbs. Played in the NFL. Very few guys looking like him. Maybe Kerry and the Warrior were on his level..
Lex Luger was a great bodybuilder. On the mic Lex Luger was a great bodybuilder In the ring Lex Luger was a great bodybuilder. As an overall wrestler Lex Luger was a great bodybuilder.
LOD and Luger were draws but they were (esp Luger) not going to draw without credible workers with them. So the big draw is conditional on both LOD or (and more so with) Luger AND Arn and Tully being on the bill. In that way it makes Arn and Tully more important because you can find some other big chiseled physique you can't go find ring masters like Arn and Tully
But the road warriors did become better workers where Luger still didn’t improve. Even Barry Windham stated that when Luger won his first world title in 91 he was still green both in the ring and on the mic despite him working with Dusty Rhodes and the Four Horsemen.
Roundabout way,key word the other dudes built better not that even matters to a real fan ,add Arns Mic skills,makes him better,and like he says they have to fight the Horseman,but if Arn got paid off the house ,was there ever nights Arn and Tully got more.
Well, perhaps, the Road Warriors were strong and powerful, they could toss people around the ring. Did Arn and Tully did that? Luger was a physical specimen? Did Arn had that body? There is your answer!
I dunno about Luger, but the Road Warriors were MASSIVE draws. Anderson was a workman-like wrestler who was almost always part of a tag team. One of the best ever at that, but still... it's apples and oranges.
Luger was paid for his built no matter where he worked - all show. Ric, Arn, & Tully along with a very few others were the main draw. The 4 Horsemen knew how to keep an audience captivated and how to work a storyline.
Arn and Tully were supposed to get a ' Dad Bods ' push to feud with the Road Warriors, but Cornette nixed the angle because he wanted to mess with Flair 😂😂😂
Something people forget about Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard. Or Tully Blanchard and Arn Anderson. Double A appeared on MidSouth Undercards in the early Eighties as Marty Lunde same time as Tully Blanchard did so. When he teamed up with Ole Anderson as Ole's nephew Arn, Double A found a great inroad to learning the subtleties of the sport. When The Four Horsemen were amassed and then after Ole's Kayfabe ouster JCP rolled the dice and teamed Arn and Tully on a very frequent basis. First time ever and it paid off under the Managerial tutelage of J.J. Dillon no less to grab NWA Tag Gold and respective NWA Television Championships. A heady and daring gambit to say the least.🤔🎤🐴💎👔👞👞🤼♂️B.W.
jo schmo that’s nothing man !!! Your father has went on record stating he was able to take all the heat from Harlem Heat ! Now I know why they call him mayonnaise jar 😂😂
Luger wasn't worth whatever they paid him. He was unwatchable in my opinion. Arn and Tully were always exciting to watch, and I didn't want to like them, but they never disappointed.
I love Arn but The Road Warriors were the best tag team on Earth! Not talking about working I mean butts in seats. Take Ric away and Arn becomes a mid card guy with the quickness. All due respect to Tully and Arn. Lex was a bum with a body so I can't condon him.
@Gene Bone he absolutely chose him to replace Hogan, and then what happened Certainly not Hulkamania 2 What happened was he got some cheers, but ultimately was a failure That's why he went to WCW for some more underwhelming success I enjoyed when he joined Nash in the Wolfpack
@Gene Bone Mark? Have you ever been in the ring? Only men and women that actually have can call others Mark, otherwise you're just being a fake SOB Luger's Hulkamania 2 run, despite best efforts from Vince, and everyone else trying to make him legitimate, failed Badly That's why he went to WCW, and again, failed, badly, as a solo star That is because as an in ring performer and on the mic, he was extremely underwhelming Anybody who was actually around at the time knows this as fact Think about what would've happened if Luger had stayed in WWF Luger in the attitude era 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@ComicBookGuy420 Luger's bad run in WWE was not the only one, it is not indicative of anything. WWF was culturally not a good fit for him. Sting, Road Warriors, Vader, Steiners, Barry Windham didn't do much better either. Brett Hart and Ultimate Warrior flopped in WCW too.
Wanted: Beat up old wrestler to work the deli counter at the local supermarket. Please do not slam your hand into the meat slicer like the last guy did.
So you should thank Lex? Lex could also work face and heel. And let's be clear, the 4 horsemen were not together for very long. Anybody could replace Tully and Arn. Athletes like Luger come along once in a bluemoon,look around at all the vanilla midgets we got now.
Not really a WTF actually. Luger was never a great in-ring worker, but he had everything else a Pro Wrestler needed (the basics at least, great body, charisma, not a bad talker at all) and thus, it's no surprise that he became a instant hit in Florida, already challenging for the NWA Heavyweight Championship in 1986, just one year after his debut and that 60 minute match (vs. Flair, Battle of the Belts III) put him over big time. He would go on to win the NWA Southern Heavyweight Championship three times before JCP wanted him and they instantly dropped him into a program against Nikita Koloff for the US Belt and aligned him with the Horsemen for a reason. Luger became a pretty good worker, best examplified of him dragging Tommy Rich to a very good match at the Clash of the Champions 8. In general, in 1988 and 1989 he had some other outstanding matches with Flair (GAB 88, Starrcade 88), Steamboat (GAB 89), Windham (Chi-Town Rumble), Pillman (Halloween Havoc 89) and Muta (Starrcade 89). It should be easy to see why he got a contract, mostly because it should be obvious that this guy was something Vince would've just loved to have: A muscular guy who was agile and just got better and better, with charisma to boot. Sadly, after 1991 (his last good match was imo vs. Ron Simmons at the Havoc 1991) he somehow stopped giving a fuck and became incredibly lazy and boring. Why? Nobody knows (though there is the fun theory that he deteoriated once he dropped the colorful trunks in WCW), but it severly hurt his legacy as you can see from all the "Luger sucks" comments - which clearly comes from people who never saw anything of him before 1992. But no really, Luger from 1986 to 1990 was well worth a good contract.
@@melaniel.4269 But he wasn't as big time as they were trying to get him to be He was average in the ring, and everybody knows it, but he definitely looked the part Vince tried to catch lightning in a bottle again, just like Hulkamania, but Luger was never the star Hogan was, even in WCW Keep I mind I am not a Hogan fan
@@ComicBookGuy420 WHO was ever the star Hogan was? Austin reached the same level, albeit only with like 6-7 years at the top, where Hogan reigned for what? 3 fucking decades? NOBODY can ever be a second Hogan. Just how there never will be another Michael Jordan or another Wayne Gretzky or another Michael Schumacher or whatever. Those were the unique true legends, that changed everything and had a massive impact that went on for decades. Luger never had that, nobody else had that. Even if Austin remained healthy, i doubt he would've stayed at the top as long as Hogan did. I was never a Luger fan at all, in the WWF i found him boring to the point, where i liked to beat him up in games like WWF Royal Rumble all the time but there's still no denying that he was big in the late 80's and could've become a lot bigger if he suddenly didn't stop caring or whatever happened. Sadly, he never opened up about what made him just stop working, because something clearly happened to him after 1991 and i doubt it was the motorcycle accident, because his decline started before that already.
@@melaniel.4269 Luger started to go down hill in 1992 because his mind was already somewhere else, like WWF/WBF where gimmick and not athletism nor wrestling skills mattered, then he also had his motor cycle accident, which combined with him getting older killed his agility.
@@08trader AND there's the school of thought that the Yokozuna thing killed his interest. You don't put that much emphasis on ANY wrestler and then don't follow through-and Lex got screwed by not pinning Yoko.
Luger couldn’t wrestle and was a bit mealy mouthed on the nic. Stiff in the ring and prob his best moment was getting bloodied by the horsemen as he left his limo.
No body I don't care about the rode warriors or lex Luger The Horseman were Platinum compared to silver and Luger was just scrap metal and that flushing hundreds down toilet
Gene Bone Luger was never over. No charisma, no in ring presence, mediocre body. If Magnum TA hadn’t wrecked his car Luger would have been even more of a never was been. His claim to fame is killing miss Elizabeth and getting away with it.
@@Warrior51970 Bwahahahaha. Never Over? He was massively over in Florida, hence why he became a 3x Champion there. In WCW he was over until he stopped giving a fuck in 1991 but in the late 80's? Have you actually seen the crowd reactions at events like Starrcade 1988 or Chi-Town Rumble? Wait, you probably never saw any of that, because you're a small mark who doesn't know that wrestling existed before 1990, lol. Oh and as for Elizabeth: She was always a drug abuser and that what got her in the end. Her persona on TV was the polar opposite of how she really was. She cheated on both Randy and Luger multiple times, did drugs and all around was a pretty miserable person.
Plus clearly you forget 1997 when he single handedly took down the nwo and beat hogan for the title. Go back watch that or watch starrcade 1996 when he gave the nwo its first loss against the giant he got a steve Austin sized pop that night. He was definitely a draw. Honestly hes also very underrated
Melanie L. I was watching in the 1970’s before you were even born lol. Luger has always sucked lol. Crocket wanted to make him into Hogan after Magnum TA’s car accident but couldn’t because he had no charisma lol. Luger always needed a supporting cast around him to make him look good such as The Horsemen or Sting lol. Apparently you don’t know shit about wrestling because he left the profession and became a professional body builder and was pushing Icopro for Vince. Surely a loyal fan such as yourself knows he only returned as The Narcissist after the WBF closed up shop after little over a year lol. BTW you do know when the police came after he murdered Elizabeth his fridge was full of steroids he was selling not to mention all the other illegal drugs that apparently only Elizabeth was taking lol.
Love his attitude. Always humble and never really bad mouths anyone
Said what I would say . Very humble.
Agreed. And honestly, more than most, Arn would be justified if he did. Paul Roma, Sid, Nash, Dusty, Jim Herd, Vince, Ole, Benoit. Yeah, he has every right to go for the throat on all of those guys, but he doesn't. Because he's a fucking man and knows he may not ever fuck with you like that again, but the secrets stay for life.
I love AA. He had his beliefs on why he is good that speaks for itself and love doing what he does
@@RaiderRSupastar It's really a shame that someone like Arn got less money.
Arn is a man. Arn is the man. Talk about someone who GETS it. Notice how he didn't bury anybody..
He basically said good on you. I just gained a lot more respect for Arn listening to this. Hope he's doing well.
👏👏
Arn was always the old school, blue collar, hard hat, lunch pale guy. The ultimate professional.
FLORIDA GATOR That’s why Daniel Tosh hates him.
Arn you are/were my favorite Horseman. All business and great talker and I wasn't a big heel fan then, but I enjoyed you and Ole the most as far as heels went. No nonsense and could work. Thanks from Tidewater,VA area and still a Mid-Atlantic JCP fan. My childhood wouldn't of been the same without you.
I met Arn (Marty) at my local gym last year. Really cool dude. Still a big dude too.
David no you didn’t
Arn and Tully was fun to watch as a kid there in the top five tag teams of all time
No matter what way you put it Double A is a down to earth ,feet firmly on the ground living legend.
My favourite member of the four horsemen.
Great conversation guys.
"Its not about what you deserve, but what you have the leverage to negotiate" Can't remember who said that but that applies here.
I think the quote is "You get what you F*cking Deserve!" and it was Arthur Fleck who said it on the Murray Franklin Show.
Also at that time the Road Warriors could write their own ticket with promotions. They just came off a successful fun in Verne's territory, and were in the process of getting over as all f**k in Japan(almost to the level of Brody and Hanson). If a promoter wanted their services, they had to agree to their terms. Plus they also had Paul as their real manager and he had a good business sense.
NOTHING WRONG WITH GUYS GETTING THEIR MONEY ANY BODY THAT DOESNT LIKE IT IS JUST JEALOUS.
It's true what he said about the promotion being a success based on the 4 horsemen being a part of it. I wasn't interested in watching it as much as i did if it wasn't for arn and Tully being tag champions. They were the best at what they did.
Conrad: Arn knows me and I'm shooting with this. Dusty sent Lex up to our camp as he couldn't even do a sunset flip over the top rope. He looked great, but that was it. Arn doesn't give himself enough credit.
I agree. I never thought much of Lex in and outside the ring. He was average on the mic and not polished at all in the ring.
@Gene Bone show some respect to a man who repeatedly helped make
The 4 Horsemen as legendary as they are
Learn some wrestling history
Well you sound like a mark. Let's list the number of stars who didn't need to do a sunset flip over the top rope...Christ this is why wrestling today sucks because the unsuccessful conned Meltzer, who sold a generation of smarks turned talent, that movesets and workrate makes a worker.
@@78bcat🙄 stop using wrestling terms trying to sound smarter
A sunset flip is an exceedingly basic move useful to measure agility in a wrestling school
If the other guy's actually a wrestler I don't know
But don't use terminology when you don't understand what it means
Its an insult to those who have actually gotten into the business
And it makes you the worlds biggest Mark
AA is a true gentleman. One of my top 5
Everyone know what “The Enforcer” means? It means that you are THE badass. That’s damn skippy what Arn was.
One of the greatest minds in the Sport of Professional Wrestling.
The Road Warriors deserved to be the highest paid act in the company, given how every promotion around the world at the time was trying to copy them with two roidy guys in face-paint. But Lex making two and a half times what Arn was? That's just insane and he was right to be furious about it.
YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT MOST OF THE TIME ARN WAS A JOBBER,THAT GETS LOW PAY.
The road warriors had a muscle bound punk rock look with cool haircuts, the wwf version of them, you know who, those other two big flabby guys looked like two granddads from the moose lodge playing with makeup .
what a stand up guy !
It was just the times roided up guys like L.O.D, Hogan, and Luger were draws.
luger was never much of a draw. Road Warriors, of course
Exactly right
The road warriors just look different than anything seen before there were over from the start to end of lod
ITS MORE THAN JUST THAT..
@@jasonchandler2463 Not really, watch some of the old tapeing's from 1984-early 86 and then when Luger came came along, the roided up monsters started taking over
Double A!!!
Arn was, is and will always be the great professional who doesn't spend his time badmouthing his contemporaries. Meanwhile, his buddy Ric Flair....🥃
Out of all the wrestler podcasts, I really like Arn's because he's humble, doesn't put himself or his friends over, and seems very honest about his time in the business. Nor does he seem to embellish unlike some people (Bruce Pritchard).
The Road Warriors we’re earning $10,400/week each and Paul E. was making $5,000/week. All 3 owe their success to Ole Anderson.
Only didn't make them a draw everywhere they went they did
Not really. With their look at the time they were going to be big anywhere they went. Ole was lucky to be the first to get them more than they were lucky they got ole
According to ric flair midnight express and rock n roll express didn’t get a contract
Agree with Arn. Loved LOD but they fed off of the horsemen and the midnight express. And they fed off of the LOD
Gene Bone disagree. He was limited but good on the stick and his finisher was better than some finishers like the leg drop or peoples elbow.
@Gene Bone What is it with you, just Trolling all over this page with negative comments about Arm
Were you even old enough to have seen the Horsemen form?
Would like Arn to talk about what he has done to make a living after wrestling.
Arn has the right approach. There will always be someone less talented or who is less deserving making more money than you. But there will also be people more deserving getting less money than you. Such is life and it will NEVER change. Blaming the people getting the money doesn't solve anything when the gripe (if you have one) should be with who's agreeing to pay those amounts.
The WWF should have put the IC belt on Arn Anderson he was one hell of a heal and one hell of a wrestler I enjoyed all his matches tag team and singles he was one of the heals as a kid I actually rooted for.
Hey guys, from the sound at 1:10 I think somebody needs to break out the WD-40 😄
Lol where is he recording? Inside a bank vault? What the hell was that? 🤣
Lex got that contract spins off from cwf...1984...and this added to the sid situation...
Arn is correct about without them they wouldn't have drawn near the houses they drew. My guess is that Lugar and Road Warriors got top dollar and guaranteed contracts because Crockett knew they were exactly what WWF wanted and he didn't want them scooped up.
I'll probably get hate from the nerdy internet wrestling fans for this but it doesn't surprise me for one second that Luger got paid more than Arn and if I were a booker at the time that didn't have the benifit of hindisight and only had the knowedge in front of me at the time I would have probably wanted Luger more too. Regardless of wrestling experience Arn Anderson looked like a footwear salesman whereas Lex Luger looked like He-Man.
You're also the guy that gives Tom Magee guaranteed money
Tully had a great point, but than Arn was just an old country boy making more money than her ever dreamed of making and having a great time doing it.
Wrestling loves ex football players,especially in the 80s..=luger getting the contract..Warriors were like give us the same money or we go back to the awa or wwf.
Luger and LOD made the kind of money they made because they were worth it. As for workers like Tully and Arn no offense but in that era, we were loaded with workers that had talent.
To compare classes of wrestlers like Tully who was 5'11 not much of a body, great ring skills but was a coke head.
He could be replaced by Al Perez, who had a better body face was younger and could work.
Arn could be replaced by Paul Orndorf, again better body better looking and just as tough if not tougher.
Luger and LOD are once in a lifetime athletes that don't usually wrestle they play Football just like SCSA and the Rock.
Today, nobody like that wrestles and you want to know why?
No heavyweights.
This ain't middleweight wrestling or light heavyweight wrestling. This is Heavyweight wrestling and I pay to see heavyweights. Not a bunch of middleweight flippity flippers. That's why it sucks.
For me Luggar wasn't better inside and outside the ring than Arn. Not even close. No way Luggar was 2.5x better than Arn.
@Gene Bone not on the mic, and certainly not in the ring
They had to put Luger with the Wolfpack (which I enjoyed) because he couldn't get over on his own in WWF or WCW
Yrah, Luger was very boring. Couldn’t talk and couldn’t wrestle. He looked good though.
Luger came to the table with an agent. Who negotiated the deal. 6ft 5in, 275 lbs. Played in the NFL. Very few guys looking like him. Maybe Kerry and the Warrior were on his level..
@@robertathey8504 For me, I think Kerry had my fave physique out of that three, not too bulky and great symmetry.
@@robertathey8504 and tony atlas
It takes a team to create a dream🤑
Amen,,,,,amen
Lex Luger was a great bodybuilder.
On the mic Lex Luger was a great bodybuilder
In the ring Lex Luger was a great bodybuilder.
As an overall wrestler Lex Luger was a great bodybuilder.
LOD and Luger were draws but they were (esp Luger) not going to draw without credible workers with them. So the big draw is conditional on both LOD or (and more so with) Luger AND Arn and Tully being on the bill. In that way it makes Arn and Tully more important because you can find some other big chiseled physique you can't go find ring masters like Arn and Tully
But the road warriors did become better workers where Luger still didn’t improve. Even Barry Windham stated that when Luger won his first world title in 91 he was still green both in the ring and on the mic despite him working with Dusty Rhodes and the Four Horsemen.
@@richie9308 agree.
C’mon Arn. Just tell the amount. The reason why Cornette and JRs podcast are successful, is they don’t hold anything back. It’s the past.
Four Horseman should have been well paid because they carried that company.
Roundabout way,key word the other dudes built better not that even matters to a real fan ,add Arns Mic skills,makes him better,and like he says they have to fight the Horseman,but if Arn got paid off the house ,was there ever nights Arn and Tully got more.
Dude the doors creaking in the background have got to stop. It's every show now and it's distracting. Let's be professional
Its just one show broken up into parts brotha
Well, perhaps, the Road Warriors were strong and powerful, they could toss people around the ring. Did Arn and Tully did that? Luger was a physical specimen? Did Arn had that body? There is your answer!
I dunno about Luger, but the Road Warriors were MASSIVE draws. Anderson was a workman-like wrestler who was almost always part of a tag team. One of the best ever at that, but still... it's apples and oranges.
@Gene Bone nobody who actually saw Luger's solo work ever called
The Total Package legendary
Arn Anderson is the greatest man behind the man in wrestling history. Let's stop with this.
@@MrT571 indeed he is,
4 Horsemen baby!
What is a house show?
any wrestling match not shown on tv and/or PPV
Luger was paid for his built no matter where he worked - all show. Ric, Arn, & Tully along with a very few others were the main draw. The 4 Horsemen knew how to keep an audience captivated and how to work a storyline.
Song at the end? Name?
Lex Lugar was over as fuck 96-99
Yes the better matchups were the Road Warriors vs Arn/Tully. But for Tully to say the Road Warriors didn't sell out crowds is totally wrong.
Arn and Tully were supposed to get a ' Dad Bods ' push to feud with the Road Warriors, but Cornette nixed the angle because he wanted to mess with Flair 😂😂😂
Something people forget about Arn Anderson and Tully Blanchard. Or Tully Blanchard and Arn Anderson. Double A appeared on MidSouth Undercards in the early Eighties as Marty Lunde same time as Tully Blanchard did so. When he teamed up with Ole Anderson as Ole's nephew Arn, Double A found a great inroad to learning the subtleties of the sport. When The Four Horsemen were amassed and then after Ole's Kayfabe ouster JCP rolled the dice and teamed Arn and Tully on a very frequent basis. First time ever and it paid off under the Managerial tutelage of J.J. Dillon no less to grab NWA Tag Gold and respective NWA Television Championships. A heady and daring gambit to say the least.🤔🎤🐴💎👔👞👞🤼♂️B.W.
Arm is right, luger had a very nice package.
Totally
Shane Sandtner your mother can also verify Luger had a nice package
@@Ijustinsultedyou Well your mother has verified ALL the packages of the "NWO", and Abdullah the Butcher.......so there.
jo schmo that’s nothing man !!! Your father has went on record stating he was able to take all the heat from Harlem Heat ! Now I know why they call him mayonnaise jar 😂😂
@@Ijustinsultedyou woulda been more funny if you put an m where the h is.....
I think the Road Warriors would have drawn money without the Horsemen
DUDE. TURN DOWN THE MUSIC AT THE END OF THE VIDEO!!!!
He said bad thing about nitia kofoo
The blast of noise at the end of these vids is exceptionally annoying , FYI, editor
Luger wasn't worth whatever they paid him. He was unwatchable in my opinion. Arn and Tully were always exciting to watch, and I didn't want to like them, but they never disappointed.
I love Arn but The Road Warriors were the best tag team on Earth! Not talking about working I mean butts in seats. Take Ric away and Arn becomes a mid card guy with the quickness. All due respect to Tully and Arn. Lex was a bum with a body so I can't condon him.
You're either better at selling to the crowd or owners.
It seems as if everybody was paid by their importance.
Luger was a draw. Get over it.
Depending on who he was with.
@Gene Bone he absolutely chose him to replace Hogan, and then what happened
Certainly not Hulkamania 2
What happened was he got some cheers, but ultimately was a failure
That's why he went to WCW for some more underwhelming success
I enjoyed when he joined Nash in the Wolfpack
@Gene Bone Mark?
Have you ever been in the ring?
Only men and women that actually have can call others Mark, otherwise you're just being a fake SOB
Luger's Hulkamania 2 run, despite best efforts from Vince, and everyone else trying to make him legitimate, failed
Badly
That's why he went to WCW, and again, failed, badly, as a solo star
That is because as an in ring performer and on the mic, he was extremely underwhelming
Anybody who was actually around at the time knows this as fact
Think about what would've happened if Luger had stayed in WWF
Luger in the attitude era
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@@ComicBookGuy420 Luger's bad run in WWE was not the only one, it is not indicative of anything. WWF was culturally not a good fit for him. Sting, Road Warriors, Vader, Steiners, Barry Windham didn't do much better either. Brett Hart and Ultimate Warrior flopped in WCW too.
Of course he should have made less than the Road Warriors
Arn 30 years ago you and Tully were not on the level of LOD or Luger face it man wake up...
What's with the constant clicks?
Wanted: Beat up old wrestler to work the deli counter at the local supermarket. Please do not slam your hand into the meat slicer like the last guy did.
So you should thank Lex? Lex could also work face and heel.
And let's be clear, the 4 horsemen were not together for very long.
Anybody could replace Tully and Arn.
Athletes like Luger come along once in a bluemoon,look around at all the vanilla midgets we got now.
Okay, The Road Warriors maybe, but Luger?
WTF?
Not really a WTF actually.
Luger was never a great in-ring worker, but he had everything else a Pro Wrestler needed (the basics at least, great body, charisma, not a bad talker at all) and thus, it's no surprise that he became a instant hit in Florida, already challenging for the NWA Heavyweight Championship in 1986, just one year after his debut and that 60 minute match (vs. Flair, Battle of the Belts III) put him over big time. He would go on to win the NWA Southern Heavyweight Championship three times before JCP wanted him and they instantly dropped him into a program against Nikita Koloff for the US Belt and aligned him with the Horsemen for a reason. Luger became a pretty good worker, best examplified of him dragging Tommy Rich to a very good match at the Clash of the Champions 8. In general, in 1988 and 1989 he had some other outstanding matches with Flair (GAB 88, Starrcade 88), Steamboat (GAB 89), Windham (Chi-Town Rumble), Pillman (Halloween Havoc 89) and Muta (Starrcade 89). It should be easy to see why he got a contract, mostly because it should be obvious that this guy was something Vince would've just loved to have: A muscular guy who was agile and just got better and better, with charisma to boot.
Sadly, after 1991 (his last good match was imo vs. Ron Simmons at the Havoc 1991) he somehow stopped giving a fuck and became incredibly lazy and boring. Why? Nobody knows (though there is the fun theory that he deteoriated once he dropped the colorful trunks in WCW), but it severly hurt his legacy as you can see from all the "Luger sucks" comments - which clearly comes from people who never saw anything of him before 1992.
But no really, Luger from 1986 to 1990 was well worth a good contract.
@@melaniel.4269 But he wasn't as big time as they were trying to get him to be
He was average in the ring, and everybody knows it, but he definitely looked the part
Vince tried to catch lightning in a bottle again, just like Hulkamania, but Luger was never the star Hogan was, even in WCW
Keep I mind I am not a Hogan fan
@@ComicBookGuy420 WHO was ever the star Hogan was? Austin reached the same level, albeit only with like 6-7 years at the top, where Hogan reigned for what? 3 fucking decades? NOBODY can ever be a second Hogan. Just how there never will be another Michael Jordan or another Wayne Gretzky or another Michael Schumacher or whatever. Those were the unique true legends, that changed everything and had a massive impact that went on for decades.
Luger never had that, nobody else had that. Even if Austin remained healthy, i doubt he would've stayed at the top as long as Hogan did.
I was never a Luger fan at all, in the WWF i found him boring to the point, where i liked to beat him up in games like WWF Royal Rumble all the time but there's still no denying that he was big in the late 80's and could've become a lot bigger if he suddenly didn't stop caring or whatever happened. Sadly, he never opened up about what made him just stop working, because something clearly happened to him after 1991 and i doubt it was the motorcycle accident, because his decline started before that already.
@@melaniel.4269 Luger started to go down hill in 1992 because his mind was already somewhere else, like WWF/WBF where gimmick and not athletism nor wrestling skills mattered, then he also had his motor cycle accident, which combined with him getting older killed his agility.
@@08trader AND there's the school of thought that the Yokozuna thing killed his interest. You don't put that much emphasis on ANY wrestler and then don't follow through-and Lex got screwed by not pinning Yoko.
Luger should of made more money than Arn
Luger couldn’t wrestle and was a bit mealy mouthed on the nic. Stiff in the ring and prob his best moment was getting bloodied by the horsemen as he left his limo.
And here I thought Hogie invented guaranteed contracts. He still ruined wrestling. He actually ruined my life.
He along with The Kliq ruined many peoples lives
Luger was just a body builder, not fluid in the ring and so so in the mic. Just a steroid guy, Road Warriors were very popular.
Luger had a great look. That’s it. His mic skill was weak and in the ring, he was mediocre. Period.
No body I don't care about the rode warriors or lex Luger The Horseman were Platinum compared to silver and Luger was just scrap metal and that flushing hundreds down toilet
Luger sucked
Gene Bone Luger was never over. No charisma, no in ring presence, mediocre body. If Magnum TA hadn’t wrecked his car Luger would have been even more of a never was been. His claim to fame is killing miss Elizabeth and getting away with it.
@@Warrior51970 Bwahahahaha. Never Over? He was massively over in Florida, hence why he became a 3x Champion there. In WCW he was over until he stopped giving a fuck in 1991 but in the late 80's? Have you actually seen the crowd reactions at events like Starrcade 1988 or Chi-Town Rumble? Wait, you probably never saw any of that, because you're a small mark who doesn't know that wrestling existed before 1990, lol.
Oh and as for Elizabeth: She was always a drug abuser and that what got her in the end. Her persona on TV was the polar opposite of how she really was. She cheated on both Randy and Luger multiple times, did drugs and all around was a pretty miserable person.
Plus clearly you forget 1997 when he single handedly took down the nwo and beat hogan for the title. Go back watch that or watch starrcade 1996 when he gave the nwo its first loss against the giant he got a steve Austin sized pop that night. He was definitely a draw. Honestly hes also very underrated
@@Warrior51970 Luger had mediocre body??? what planet have you been watching wrestling on?
Melanie L. I was watching in the 1970’s before you were even born lol. Luger has always sucked lol. Crocket wanted to make him into Hogan after Magnum TA’s car accident but couldn’t because he had no charisma lol. Luger always needed a supporting cast around him to make him look good such as The Horsemen or Sting lol. Apparently you don’t know shit about wrestling because he left the profession and became a professional body builder and was pushing Icopro for Vince. Surely a loyal fan such as yourself knows he only returned as The Narcissist after the WBF closed up shop after little over a year lol. BTW you do know when the police came after he murdered Elizabeth his fridge was full of steroids he was selling not to mention all the other illegal drugs that apparently only Elizabeth was taking lol.