Real running costs of our Hyundai Ioniq EV (in 2023 in the UK)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ค. 2023
- In this impromptu video, I explain the real running cost of our electric car. Our 2020 Hyundai Ioniq Electric is probably the most efficient EV available (with the Tesla Model 3 coming second) and throughout the year we average around 4.8 miles per kilowatt hour. It's probably better than that, as we typically get around 4.0-4.5 in the winter and 5.5-6.0 in the summer. This is without any effort either. The car is capable of better efficiencies if you're willing to drive more gently and use less heating or air conditioning. We don't bother as the range of the vehicle is more than we ever need in a day and the running costs are already low.
All our charging is done at home overnight. We use the Octopus Go tariff for 4 hours of cheap rate electricity, which costs us 7.5p pkWh. All our charging is done over night, but not every night. Driving 12,000 miles per year costs us £187.50 in electricity.
Some may say "well your daytime rate is more expensive on Octopus Go". Yes that is true. We pay about 2p pkWh more (maybe less, I can't remember) during the day, but that is massively offset by the 4 hours of cheap rate and by putting the washing machine and dishwasher on during the night makes the savings even greater. If you switched to Go now, the day rate is only 0.3p more, so its a no-brainer!
If you join Octopus Energy using this link share.octopus.energy/storm-ok..., we both get a £50 credit, or a £100 credit if you're a business customer. £50 gets us 3,200 miles in the Ioniq, charging at night when the UK energy is at its greenest!
There is a lot written in the UK press about high costs of running an electric vehicle. It is true that the costs of running an EV have shot up due to the high electricity prices, but running an EV is still cheaper than a combustion engine vehicle, even if you have to public charge. But who said EVs had to be cheaper to run? That was just an added benefit. Driving an EV is about reducing emissions and improving our air quality. So even if an EV costs the same to run as an ICE vehicle, everyone still benefits from the zero emissions from the EVs. However, if you can charge at home, an electric vehicle is still significantly cheaper to run, especially if you take advantage of cheap rate nighttime tariffs when the UK grid is also at its greenest. If you have solar PV, then your EV is even cheaper to run.
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I can confirm your figures with the 28kWh model as well: 5.5 miles/kWh in spring/summer, and 4.5 miles/kWh in winter (mixed roads/motorway). It’s the consistency of those figures across all Ioniq Electrics, despite different drivers, différents journeys, different countries, that’s is also particularly impressive.❤
Spot on ... we also have the same model in Australia and we love it. The efficiency is mind blowing compared to other EVs . We are off the power grid and mainly charge at home from our solar system. In 20 months and 23,000km or 14,000 miles we haven't yet spent $100 AUD on commercial chargers and the service at 12 months was $160 .... Bizarre !
Absolutely correct, extremely efficient cars. We do just over 1000 miles every month. In the summer it cost under £20 a month. In the winter it is around £25 a month. The costs are taken from our charger, so that includes all charging losses and defrosting/pre heating in the winter.
Good to hear.
Right on the money Matt - efficiency is surely the aim as opposed to SUV 'luxury' - I fear that general consensus is missing the point somewhat . . .
I almost got one back in 2020, but was convinced by the 64kwh Kona instead. This would have been perfectly fine though, and being a cheap skate would have appealed with the efficiency.
Shame they are stopping making them now.
I loved what you said there at 2:38
Like you said, it's just a nice bonus that it's cheap. You drive electric because there's no exhaust in the back killing others and adding even more CO2 to the atmosphere.
Something that has been forgotten. For many years now, the message about EVs seems to be money saving. That was never the point. We need to get back to the clean air message, which has been overshadowed by all the other bulls**t.
@@GoGreenAutos Couldn't agree more.
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I have the Kona 64kWh and I am getting 5 to 5.5 at the moment. Both great cars and so efficient
Shame the new Hyundais aren't getting the same. Even the new Ioniq 6 which is touted as a super efficient EV isn't achieving what the original Ioniq did. But then I guess its got more power.
My average over the last 2000 miles is 6m/kw. I do 100 mile per day commute and definitely can recommend this vehicle.
Good to hear.
What speed do you drive your car? (what actions have you taken to get 9.65 km/kWh?)
I drive in Eco mode mostly and I drive according to the traffic and always preemptively. I do about 30 miles of motorway daily and don’t do 70 miles per hour as it’s a waste of time trying to do this in the UK.
@@LeslyHerbay I drive around 100 - 110 KM/h in The Netherlands. What is the speed you take on a highway? For the 30 miles?
100km/h in the morning and closer to 60 if I’m lucky in the afternoon.
Can't argue ..... your stats are correct and demonstrate just how incredibly efficient this car is!
I have a Hyundai Kona with the 64kW battery. I've had it for just over 2 years and done just over 22,000 miles.
I use it in just the same way as you use your Ioniq and have to date averaged 4.8miles per kW. I have used public charging when on holiday but the rest has been done at home, using either my solar PV or Economy 7, which is more expensive than Octopus Go. My Octopus fixed rate energy deal ends soon and I'm hoping to move to Intelligent Octopus as it will give me a 6-hour lower rate period. This assumes the technical issues between IO and my Zappi charger get resolved. If not, then it will be Octopus Go.
My total cost to date for charging is £547, so a bit more than you. But ........ if I'd still been driving my Lexus RC 300h hybrid the equivalent mileage would have cost me around £5,300 in fuel. Plus the maintenance costs would have been much higher!
I’m getting about 4.2 average in my Kona… why aren’t they making an Ioniq with a bigger battery?! Not everybody wants an Ioniq 5….
just a pity that it is now discontinued and that none of the new "improved" EV's can match let alone better the Ioniq's efficeincy ☹
Yes even the new Ioniq 6 is touted to be super efficient, but doesn't match the "classic" Ioniq.
It would be good if you did a check on your consumption independent of the on-board computer, my nissan leaf shows 5.2 in the summer on the computer, but actually only returns about 4.0 when checked against my zappi charger
I’ve been running a Renault Zoe for the past three years. I have to change her next year because she lease runs out. I’ve chosen a small camper based on the Vauxhall Combo Life Electric.
Spot on, thats better than my MG4. But as you say charging from home saves the money. I totally agree with you.
Ioniq is legend, both Classic and Facelift are phantastic cars, incredibly efficient, extremely good driving impression for this price, can't get better than this, it's a shame that they do not produce it anymore, newer EVs are having a tendency to going backwards sadly. Too high consumption in new cars, and too much useless expensive stuff, too high, like insane cameras instead of mirros that have spare part prices where you would go crazy if you have some damage and need repairs.
If you have a Ioniq, do not give it away, you will regret it!
Impressive numbers.
I cannot find a similar data display in our ID.3 1st Edition so I have to keep my own records. We bought the car used on March 3rd this year 27 months old and with a lifetime average of 3.8 miles/kWh. We've never seen figures below that and over only 1,000 miles we have the lifetime average at 4.2 miles/kWh with current numbers running at over 5.
The car is driven by two people and just put into D and driven. We use it for local journeys and visiting family who live 30 or so miles away with it's single longest journey during our ownership to date being a 165 mile round trip to collect a pedal trike for a friend with back problems. That journey necessitated mostly A14 miles and the car returned 4.7 miles/kWh driven with the ACC set to 60mph.
I am expecting a drop off in the winter months but given that at present we can run our car for less than 3 pence per mile I am pretty impressed with an apparently "average" EV.
My sister runs a 14 year old Corsa 1.4 with low mileage and we calculated that it costs around 9 pence per mile in fuel. Three times as much for a smaller and less capable car. She has already asked how long we intend to keep the ID.3 and is trying to work out if she can afford to go EV. I am tempted to point her at early Zoe models but I know so little about them.
We did look seriously at the Ioniq but once we tried the ID.3 there was no doubt that this was the car for us.
I could be wrong, but the reason why I have not recommended the Zoe to people wanting to switch is because of the lack of rapid CCS charging on the 2nd hand models I found online.
You’ve got me beat Matt but I’m not too far behind with my eNiro. Reading how people trash EV’s, they just have no idea
Thanks for making such informative videos Matt, your channel is my go to for good EV advice. Any thoughts on whether all season tyres have an effect range ?
Thank you. This Ioniq is running all-season tyres (see th-cam.com/video/tUH3WF3jy0o/w-d-xo.html) so no - if there is a difference, its not measurable.
eNiro driver here - around town currently between 5.5-6m/kwh, motorway at 70 is 4.2m/kwh. Does the eNiro class as a SUV?!
it might be different driving styles, but my best in the US so far has been about 5 mi/kWh. my normal average for daily use is between 3.8 mi/kWh and 4.3 mi/kWh, but I do regularly take it to 70 mph during my 20 minute morning commute.
I've got a video coming soon on the motorway/highway efficiency in the Ioniq.
Wow very efficient
I drove round trip Norway-Sweden, roughly 240km or 140 miles. Total cost for fuel: 12 kroner = 1£
The Ioniq's (Classic and Facelift) are both absolutely exceptional cars, extremly reliable, the lowest consumption you can find anywhere, and really nice and smooth to drive. The Classic charges a lot better which gives you a timing advantage on long trips above 500km/300miles as long as the charging infrastructure is fine... both are phantastic cars.
And the really cool part... the batteries are exceptionally good, there are Ioniq classics around with 300.000km / 185000 miles that have 85 to 90% battery left, it's to this day one of the absolutely best EVs out there. And if i were to buy an EV today i would try to get a good 2nd hand one of these as they are unfortunately not new available today.
I get 8.1 kms per kw in my Leaf in NZ by careful driving always under 90 kms per hr speed..
Hi, is the car still wort buying now as I here it will be discontinued.
Best ihave had was 7.2 miles a killowatt but i was going slow in the early hours on a Sunday morning no traffic and sticking to the speed limits. I was on eco. But i currently drive on normal mode and get similar miles per kilowatt to you. Best mileage i have had was 204 miles with 4 % battery left when i reached the charger. This was on a 20degree Celsius day. This car is fantastic. I just had my recall booked in August. I am on target for 16000 miles a year based on my current mileage per month. It will be interesting to see how the battery holds up. I only do one to two fast charges per month on average as most of my charging is on Octopus go at home.
This week I'm going to see what's the maximum efficiency I can get out of the car, so that video will be coming in a month's time.
My Ioniq paid for itself over 3 years in Fuel cost savings tax and servicing savings and the reimbursement income from business mileage.
A car litterally for nothing.
And now increasing savings now its paid for!
Tell the Daily Mail please!
Impressive!!
Unrelated EV question: Is there any customisation of the low speed (safety) noise an EV makes ( ideally toggle between choices).
Pedestrians more likely to take notice of a V8 rather than a whining..?
Basically no. But I believe you can upload your own sound file in a Tesla.
@@GoGreenAutos Thank you. Ionic is pretty much at the top of my list.
Thanks Matt, just signed up using your link. I was going to change to Octopus and I had a quote a few days ago and my inertia has paid off with a a £50 bonus for both of us... BOOM 💥 👍Out of interest, the IONIQ you have what is the year and mileage please, I love the efficieny figures you quote. I'll take a look around to get current used prices.
It’s clearly a post 2019 38kWh model, because of the screen he has.
@@Nikoo033 Thank you very much, I know nothing about Hyundai cars so this is very useful, thank you again, appreciated
Thank you John. I see the Go tariff is now (for my postcode anyway) only 0.3p pkWh more during peak rate than standard capped rate. So its a no brainer to switch. We put our washing machine and dishwasher on during the cheap rate too (using the machine's timers) and that results in a huge saving too.
It's a 2020 model and has done 27,000 miles (I think). Unlike an ICE vehicle, mileage makes no difference to efficiency on an EV though.
Would you think that the depreciation on this cars will be higher now they have stopped making them and that the range is lower than quite a lot of newer EV's coming to the market?
Not at all. They (and all EVs) have dropped significantly recently (in the UK) due to the high electricity prices and the barrage of negative press against EVs. I think the prices will start to rise over the coming months, especially with the ULEZ taking effect. At the moment, the EV models are as cheap or cheaper than the hybrids.
The Ioniq 38kWh is too cheap now, yet can still stand up against much newer cars. You have to remember this does more range than other 50kWh cars.
The Ioniq got better consumption stats than cars that are much smaller, and thus, it is truly the king of efficiency. With my Ioniq 38, i have consumption figures between 6.5 and 7.3 miles/kWh during the summer (I drive in eco mode and try to use coasting reasonably)
😮 wow…..
The Kia e-Niro and Hyundai Kona are just as efficient. I think the next closest EV in terms of efficiency is the VW e-Up (or other clones of the same vehicle). I think its pretty much the same as the Ioniq, but it is a much smaller car. Then next would be the Tesla Model 3. Then everything else is quite a long way behind.
I heard the eup is good as long as you don't take it on the motorway then it loses some efficiency due to its shape as the wind pressure takes its toll at higher speeds. The ioniq suffers with this but it is more slippery so most of the extra energy you use is simply because you are going faster rather than from the brick shape of the eup.
When you say these original ioniqs, do you mean a batch or would a 2022 version of this be good too?
Yes, all 2016-2022 Ioniqs. They had a 28kWh from 2016-2019 and a 38kWh from 2019-2022.
Did you get the coolant refill issue get resolved?
On this car, yes about 2 months ago. Our other Ioniq (grey one) went in about 2 weeks ago and had the coolant replaced and the SOS recall done. No problems since on either.
My S3 would be around £2,700 on fuel alone for 12,000 miles (I'm only driving 7,500 currently per year), not to mention servicing, insurance, tax, etc. Right now with not being able to home charge and a shite UK non-Tesla network, there is no way in hell I'm paying out redonculous money on an EV. (Just to say I DO actually want one. I love the tech but would have to go Tesla for their supercharging network cus one is close'ish to where we live), but until the UK starts to take it more seriously and invests in the charging infrastructure, then they can 'go do one' as far as I'm concerned. There are too many corners of our amazing island where you just cannot charge fast enough. Good video and information, thanks👍🏻 😄
If you're reliant on public charging, then nothing else comes close to Tesla. They're also the cheapest rapid chargers too.
I've had my 28 for almost three months, and so far I'm really satisfied. There's guarantee left, so I'm happy that the motor that locks the charging cable started to break down now, that's a typical problem with them, I've heard.
I've never yet experienced a charge port actuator problem yet. But I know many others have.
true, that is a known problem, happens on both, Classic and Facelift but is easy to fix and should be on warranty
The warranty time ended in the beginning of December and on the 29th I had to get it towed. I suspect the engine bearing, they will call me next week 😱
My Hyundai Kona 64KWh is also super efficient and a Kona electric set a range record of 637.5 miles on a single charge.. I'm not sure if the Hyundai's are more efficient than a Tesla model 3 standard range plus on the highway or the Seat Mii electric around town. I'm waiting for the Aptera which will do 10 miles/KWh and has solar panels for self recharging. I charge my Hyundai mainly from the solar panels at home with a Zappi charger, so effectively free fuel.
True, Kona is extremely efficient as well, and as long you are not going too fast it is amazingly close to the Ioniq consumption specs.
Whould you still recommend this car in 2023 , also what is the acceleration like overtaking motorway traffic thanks 👍
Absolutely. The performance is good too. Not Tesla acceleration, but plenty good enough.
that is crazy miles per kW. my zoe is 2.9 in winter 4.3 summer and thats driving slow
As a comparison, I drive my Fiat 500e with a light foot and rarely exceed 60 mph. The aircon is barely used in the summer and the heating is on a low setting all winter. The result is 3.5 miles per kW/h in winter and 4.5 miles per kW/h in summer which is passable but not a patch on the Ionic.
@@briangriffiths114 same as my 2015 zoe. it would make you look at one
I'm considering changing to an Ioniq. Which would folk recommend, the 28kw or 38kw?
I opted for the 38kWh version as it was only marginally more expensive when I was looking. Bigger battery, better infotainment system/touch screen etc.
People knock the 38kWh version for being slower to rapid-charge, but that's the only advantage the 28kWh version has, I think. The 38kWh version can fast-charge quicker than the 28kWh version (7.4kW vs. 6.X kW), so on balance I don't see the 28kWh being ahead.
I would have considered the 28kWh if it was thousands of pounds cheaper, but that isn't what I found four months ago.
This may help th-cam.com/video/o1dRhD1nS-M/w-d-xo.html
An Ioniq 28 or probably 38 will be the replacement for my 10 year old Ampera soon. I've not put petrol in the Amp since November and charge at home, using what I can from the solar panels, so it's been dirt cheap to run and a great car to drive.
Same here Steve!!
See you on the Ioniq forum !
Agree, cost per mile is cheaper with this car
What I don't like about my Hyundai ioniq electric is the 10k miles service intervals. I do roughly 20k miles a year so service twice a year. I have to service this car more than my diesel golf. It's ridiculous. Also pubic charging pricing is also a joke. People ask me "should I get an EV"? I say "if you're relying on public charging only, don't bother"' wholesale energy prices have come down dramatically over the last year and charging networks are still at astonishing prices.
Yes annual or 10,000 mile service intervals just isn't needed on EVs. But of course these traditional motor manufacturers have dealerships that rely on huge profit margins from servicing. If they extended or scrapped EV servicing, their dealers wouldn't be happy and would probably switch to another brand.
Tesla are different. Their vehicles do not have a service schedule. But of course they have no dealers to satisfy either.
I've 'relaxed' mine down to every 20k for servicing. 10k really isn't necessary. Also gone with an independant well known EV mechanic. Can you guess who it is?!!
REAL COSTS include the price you paid for the car like car payments. Why do EV owners always leave this out. That is some impressive kw/h's but you have to include what you paid for the car or car payments in your figures to be honest ?
But that's the same as any ICE vehicle. I was just looking at the fuel costs. If I factored in servicing and purchase price, it would be even cheaper. A used Ioniq EV is now on price parity to equivalent ICE vehicles. In fact I've heard they are now cheaper than the Ioniq PHEV.
Hi, I'm disabled and on the Motability scheme and I have been looking at EV's as a replacement for my current ICE car. My only worry is I live in a ground floor flat of a 3 story block, we do have offroad parking at the rear but it's not close to the back of my flat, so I couldn't run a 20ft plus cable from my flat to any potential EV, so home charging isn't really going to work. What I haven't seen a lot of in reviews is what it would cost to charge an EV solely on the public charging network as most reviews mention overnight, at home charging. If anyone can help me understand what it costs to only charge at public charge points I would be most grateful.
Public charging costs have risen (since the war) and if you're reliant on that, the cost of running an EV is about the same as an ICE vehicle. If you happen to live near a Tesla Supercharger site which is open to all (see th-cam.com/video/-fq4R-PSHOU/w-d-xo.html) then these are the cheapest rapid chargers and are typically around 46p pkWh. But most other networks are 70-80p pkWh. You may have some public AC chargers nearby and these would be cheaper. Best to check out what's nearby on www.zap-map.com/live/
Prices should start to drop soon though.
@@GoGreenAutos thanks for your reply, that's what I feared, I really want an EV but I'm not sure it's the most practical solution for someone like me or these living in blocks of flats etc where domestic charging isn't really an option. I may get another ICE car this time and see where things are in 3 years time when I have to change my car again. I'll check those links out too, thanks for the advice 👍
Plus depreciation on the car which is substantial so you can't smugly say £180 a year. Compared with say a 5K petrol Hyundai you've spent what 30k plus to tell me you're saving money.....the outlay on an electric car doesn't make them cheap overall
I purchased this used, so its not a £30K car. And you can't compare a nearly new car with an old £5K car. The video is about the running costs, not the depreciation. All cars depreciate and newer cars depreciate more than older cars.
Don't forget to add the cost of all the extra coffee's you will be buying whilst waiting for the car to charge !
We never wait, as it is charged overnight while we sleep.
wow ❤
I bought an electric car because of the savings, and the response. But there is not a big difference, when it comes to the climate. Of course its cleaner to drive, but not when it comes to producing, and recycling of an ev.
My neighbour just sold his. Wish I'd had the money to buy it from him.
With my 28 over the last 7000 miles (actually 7071 now) I've been recording the energy used when charging and without 'cheap rate' electricity (on the standard capped tariff) I've spent £408.19 on charging the car - both at home and out and about on rapids.
That works out at a perfectly reasonable 6p/mi running cost. (It's averaged 5.02 mi/kWh over that time)
It's worth pointing out that other EV's are nowhere near as efficient.
Why don't you go onto a cheap night rate? The day rate on Go is currently (for my postcode) only 0.3p more than the standard, so the savings are well worth it, especially if you put the washing machine and dishwasher on during the cheap period.
@@GoGreenAutos we are at home most of the day and given my mileage the benefit would not pay for itself as our day rate would be higher.
But we are getting close to having an 8.3kW solar array with 10.6kWh of batteries installed - I'll get a Wallbox for that and then for a lot of the year it will cost nothing to run! (My cousin already does that on her farm - her Zoe is saving her over £200 a month in petrol)
@@FFVoyager The day rate is currently only 0.3p more. Its not the increase it used to be. I think I'm paying 2 or 3p more.
@@GoGreenAutos 🤔 I'll have to have a look into that again.
Ive got the non plug in hybrid, and it gets a steady 68mpg in the summer and 58mpg in the middle of winter. And that is not trying to eek out the mpg. I know taxi drivers that are getting it in the low 80s.
I had a carolla hybrid as a loaner a few weeks agogouldnr get that above 53mpg in the hot weather we had. Given Toyota have been at it so long, I assumed they would be a little better. But in every way, except the lane assist, the 2021 ionic face lift, is better.
Toyotas lane assist is a cut above Hyundai ionics, it keeps the car bang in the middle of the lane, my ionic seems to drift from line to line.
Problem the best feature on the ionic (face lift) is the cruise control can go to a full stop and move off itself when the car infont does. I was stuck in a 3h (should be 50min) jam tonight, and it made it far less tedious. I'm spoilt, I'd hate to go back to a manual for my day to day driving.
Yes for some strange reason, the lane keep assist is worse on the 2020+ models. It worked really well on the 2016-2019 Ioniq.
@@GoGreenAutos very strange. There 2as a huge difference between my ionic and the loaner Corolla I had with was a few years old. It looked like it was through together, with a car that was coming to the end of its life cycle. The interior fixture and fittings look and feel a decade apart.
I think Toyota needed a car slightly bigger than the Prius to fend of the likes of the ionic. And they just retro fitted the prius mechanicals to the Corolla frame. Strange thing is non of the Prius screens/dial was used. They used the Corolla dials and it just doesn't work. You would have to be a massive Toyota loyalist to not pick the ionic over it. Or really need the little bit of extra boot space height the Corolla has. But I'm sure there is a better hybrid estate out there
Do ypu factor in the hp payments for the ev? Dont need a loan for ice as you can easily get a usable one for under a grand
Can you get an ICE car of similar age/condition for under a grand? I don't think anyone is claiming old ICE cars aren't the cheaper option, but if you're going to buy a car that is a couple of years old then it is worth doing the sums to see if there is a reasonable payback going electric.
@@Adam-ni5lt no, but im looking at the cheapest usable ev available, as compared to a cheap, usable ice car, I'll have to get back to you in ten years, then we'll see how much a usable 22 year old ev will cost, if there are any around of that age!
Talk to you in 10 years then.
You have to compare like for like. A used Ioniq EV is now on price parity to equivalent ICE vehicles. In fact I've heard they are now cheaper than the Ioniq PHEV.
@@GoGreenAutos i don't have to do anything, im simply comparing the cheapest used ev available compared to the cheapest used ice available, cheapest used ev would put me in debt, and nobody in their right mind wants to owe money, yes, i know evs aren't old enough yet but will a good, usable one with good range left ever be as cheap as ice?
German EV manufacturers..."Just fit 100kWh+ battery, nobody will notice or care about efficiency but look at the badge!" ;)
Yes fitting larger batteries isn't really ideal. We need more efficient cars and with smaller packs. The way Tesla Model 3/Y and future 2 model do!
What's the real world range of this car?
Supposed to be 311km,but last few months when I occasionally charge to 100% shows as 333km. Dont know why they don't still keep making this car,even in a face-lift,the newer EVs don't have the same efficiency and hyundai still doesn't have an entry level replacement.
When I picked mine up it was on 100% battery and 193 miles of range on a cold day in February. I was 92 miles from home and when I got there it had a range of 96 miles left. Recently on warm days 100% charge has shown a range of 208 miles. I find that driving sensibly these cars do the miles they say they can
@@keithb4753 I see, that's great. Many thanks.
@@davidadams5116 I see, thank you.
If you do motorway driving and stick to 70mph, you'll probably see about 175-180 miles in the summer, full to empty.
I had a Corsa-e that could only do about 145 miles at 70mph, despite the battery being larger. The Ioniq really is efficient.
Many people complain that the Ioniq 38kWh can only rapid charge at 48kW, but if it uses half the energy as another car (ok, a bit of an exaggeration, except for the most inefficient electric cars out there) over a certain distance, then you still sit and wait for the same amount of time rapid charging as a car that charges at 96kW. And if you do most charging at home then it makes no difference at all...
I always envied Ionic owners for the car's incredible efficiency, although the cooling system (crystalizing) issue would concern me. But for pure miles per KW/h, nothing can match it.
But that coolant issue is being sorted by the manufacturer under warranty.
My 2020 Ioniq 38 had the coolant issue earlier this year, fully sorted but the dealership and didn't cost me anything except a bus fare home and back. It's a one time issue, so once it's fixed it's fixed. Unlike the VW and Teslas..
@@Asestar That's good news and fair play to the manufacturer for dealing with it so effectively.
I thought the Model 3 Dual Motor Long Range or Model Y was the most efficient EV ?
Model 3 LR is most efficient car Currently On Sale. Still can't touch Ioniq 28 or 38.
@@Asestar please explain?
The Model 3/Y is very efficient, but behind the Ioniq 28/38kWh and possibly slightly behind the VW e-Up.
@@GoGreenAutos okay. So are we distinguishing between range and efficiency?
@@LysanderLH Because they are two different things.
just shows that most EVs being big heavy SUVs is just stoopid....
Efficient for an EV, but reality compared to overall cost in comparison to an ICE - a big mark up in new price, higher depreciation, higher insurance costs, higher tyre wear, more environmentally unfriendly to manufacture. The ICE is not dead yet, whatever the government wants to do.
When I changed to one of these cars my insurance went up by £4 for the 9 months that was left on my policy with LV. I was happy with that. I bought this Ioniq for £14995 on a 70 plate with 10250 miles on it, a full main dealer history and not a mark inside or out so you can buy reasonably priced EVs if you don't want to show off with a Tesla costing a fortune on a PCP or Lease.
EVs don't wear tyres any more at all. That's just one of those myths. Breaks wear considerably less too. In fact on the Ioniq, the pads will last about 200,000 miles and the discs would never need changing (unless they rust out). Our previous Ioniq had done 102,000 miles when I sold it and the front pads were still at about 80% thickness.
While EVs were considerably more new, the gap isn't anywhere near as large any more. Then used its a different story. A used Ioniq EV is now on price parity to equivalent ICE vehicles. In fact I've heard they are now cheaper than the Ioniq PHEV.
@@davidadams5116It sounds like we bought exactly the same car! It must be one of the biggest bargains on the used car market.
@@benellis7427 I think you are right.
Puts my Zoe ZE40 to shame averaging 4 miles per kWh. 😠
I've never driven Zoe. I've heard that it can cover quite a good distance though? Have you ever had any issues with it? I'm curious, as the price of second hand ones is getting decent.
@@Adam-ni5lt
I bought a demonstrator with 1100 miles top spec ze40 q90 in black for £14000.00 during the 2020 lockdown. As of today the clock shows ~7000 miles with no issues so far! Range: I drive it as a normal car to include heating & AC is ~160miles. Good luck!
@@fje1948Thanks for the info. Always good to know someone else's experience. 👍
@GoGreenAutos what i dont get is anti ev folk watching ev videos all the time. Bizzare when theres so much ice vehicles content out there to watch.
Exactly. I don't watch videos about products or subjects I do not intend to buy or use. Still, it helps my TH-cam videos get up the rankings.
@@GoGreenAutos Along with our reaction comments.
But in reality, your use case isn't real world. I have to charge my 28kWh Ioniq away from home once a month or so.
Its been our real world for the last 7 years and that's doing 12,000 miles per year. And that would be the case for the majority of UK drivers too, if they can charge at home of course. Some people will do the occasional long drive where they will need a rapid charge, but that makes little difference to the overall running cost as they would start the journey with a full battery charged at home.
But wait a minute, surely not better than a Tesla, Teslas are always the best at everything,nothing comes even close, so I am repeatedly told.
Thanks for your real world results, way better than my Kia.
While I'm a Tesla fan boy, the Ioniq (and most Kia & Hyundai EVs) have them beat on efficiency and built quality.
I call BS, it costs me more to charge my phone at night according to this.
Your maths is wrong then as charging a mobile costs less than £2 per year.
@@GoGreenAutos Your green superiority is wrong as your electric car caused more pollution and greenhouse gases than mine has in its manufacturing and 3 years of driving just from mining the minerals for the batteries. Go on try to prove me wrong.
@@Mark..Birchenough I will be the first to say that EVs aren't green. If you want green transport you should ride a bike. But they are greener than ICE vehicles and only keep getting greener the longer you drive them and even more so as the electricity grid gets more renewables (currently around 50% in the UK). There's plenty of FUD out there. You believe what you like, but I'm certainly not trying to be superior here, but just stating facts. I could point you to real data and reports online which shows EVs are greener within a year of driving an ICE, but I have the feeling you'd not want to read it or believe it. But that's fine, we can all believe what we wish and it makes zero difference to me. But I just want to breathe cleaner, less toxic air. Thanks for watching anyway. Have a good day.
@GoGreenAutos After the point of sale, in certain circumstances they can be greener. Like if you have your own solar array at home and are off grid. But even then it takes a long time for a ice car to catch up with the pollution caused by making an ev and you know it.
Electric vehicles are always cleaner than internal combustion over their life time. Even if the electricity is produced 100% by burning coal. On a relatively clean grid they make up the extra manufacturing co2 after 1-2 years average driving. An ice car is responsible for 3kg of co2 for every litre of fuel burnt, that soon adds up.
Lol, just looked at that octopus go tarrif, you need to be wealthy to get cheap electricity these days lol
Could you explain?.......🤔
@@Lookup2Wakeup the cheap tarrif is only for people who are wealthy enough to own an ev, I'm too poor to benefit from cheap electricity, obviously, personal transport is considered more important than keeping warm, cooking, hygiene etc
@@Markcain268 I see where you're coming from now...👍
By the time a EV is 10 years old & affordable on the second hand market, the risk of battery failure & replacement will negate the lower cost. I think the plan is to get cars off the road by making them unaffordable to less well off folks.
@@Lookup2Wakeup yep, im pretty fed up with it all, might as well give up work as im fed up with subsidising people more wealthy than me, let them subsidise me for a change!
Look at EVM, he just bought a Zoe for under 5k
What a clown thing to say about poisonous gases. All you're doing is putting the pollution somewhere else. Research how much pollution is created just for your car. Youll never break even.
Sorry, but you obviously listen to far to much fuel lobby b.s.
Autotrader : value of cars 1-3 years old petrol and diesel + 3% hybrid -15% electric -24%
Bargains to be had now. Used EVs are now cheaper or price parity to petrol.
@@GoGreenAutos I wouldn't have one free !
How did you get Octopus Intelligent with the Ioniq. The call centre told me it’s not available on Intelligent only on Go?
We use Octopus Go.
@@GoGreenAutos yup I’ve accepted that’s what I need to use. Switched and tariff operational immediately, thanks
@@manomano8939 Its easier and just works as there's no interaction with the car or charger. Many have problems as sometimes things don't work. Plus with Go, we put the washing machine and dishwasher only on during the cheap rate, as they have delayed start functions. That saves a fortune too.
@@GoGreenAutos thanks, tip tips all round. I will 100% come to you when we are ready to make the switch to a two car EV family, your channel is a treasure trove of advice and guidance