Classical Saxophone Snob Attempts Jazz Saxophone

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  • The purpose of this video (featuring Jesse Shelton) is to have you cringe at least a few times from sayings that may be too... familiar. I hope it worked! But don't worry: Jazz snobs can be just as bad! It's coming. Thank you for 55.3K subs!
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  • @insaneintherainmusic
    @insaneintherainmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6822

    Okay this one got me good... I lost it at 5:28

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +626

      The master has spoken again!

    • @ethanburton9180
      @ethanburton9180 4 ปีที่แล้ว +164

      @@Saxologic That lick sounded like Glazunov. Have you ever heard of it?

    • @Zofer-1920
      @Zofer-1920 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      insaneintherainmusic me too! 😆🤣

    • @jamesstrader4063
      @jamesstrader4063 4 ปีที่แล้ว +74

      @@ethanburton9180 Glizzynov

    • @louislameck9128
      @louislameck9128 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Saxologic *ODIN IS WITH US*

  • @razimoh12
    @razimoh12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7025

    Asks for sheet music
    Closes eyes

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +575

      Oops lol

    • @-Fenixx-
      @-Fenixx- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +238

      Telepathic sheet music was sent

    • @prixrities
      @prixrities 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      That’s what makes it so much harder to read than changes

    • @ethanm3480
      @ethanm3480 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Legend has it that he only needs one glance and memorizes everything. Even the second page which he can’t even see

    • @samschellhase8831
      @samschellhase8831 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I play bass, it’s just chords. The entire song. I got better over the years in highschool, but it’s awful when you play a wrong note 🙃

  • @devinsaenger2392
    @devinsaenger2392 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5399

    Regardless of his satire he’s actually a really great classical saxophonist

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +406

      thanks!!

    • @Ardjano234
      @Ardjano234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      No! Keep it 666 likes!

    • @evanbarr9270
      @evanbarr9270 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes I actually love legit

    • @IsaacW.
      @IsaacW. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      By satire you mean jazz?

    • @devinsaenger2392
      @devinsaenger2392 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Isaac W you could say it’s subjective

  • @vigilancebrandon3888
    @vigilancebrandon3888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2915

    The way he scrunches his shoulders every time he plays 😂

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +161

      I hope you loved it!

    • @vigilancebrandon3888
      @vigilancebrandon3888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      Saxologic i did

    • @lejazz6938
      @lejazz6938 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Well he should raise his arms too, while playing...we used to call it 'armpit music'... ;)

    • @zhongxina8426
      @zhongxina8426 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      and his eyebrows😂

    • @mydjmode
      @mydjmode 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh man he had me laughing so hard! 🤣

  • @innocentoctave
    @innocentoctave 4 ปีที่แล้ว +940

    Main takeaways from this: 1) classical and jazz sax make very different demands on technique; 2) classical sax doesn't sound like 'sax' - it sounds more like clarinet, horn or even bassoon; and 3) classical sax in tone and phrasing sounds much more like early jazz styles than later jazz styles (after swing).
    Because modern jazz draws so heavily on jazz from Parker/Gillespie onwards, we seem to have internalized the bop and post-bop sound as what 'sax' sounds like. it doesn't have to be that way.

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +139

      Wonderfully open mind you have!

    • @innocentoctave
      @innocentoctave 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Saxologic Thank you. Try this: th-cam.com/video/tDsCZFimAuE/w-d-xo.html No sax, but I think you'll appreciate the solos.

    • @DruNature
      @DruNature 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      as more a music producer than a musician this video was eye opening to say the least. I can't help but think that Jazz, like metal would simply not exist without classical and really the roots run deep.

    • @MingusDynastyy
      @MingusDynastyy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sounds a lot like some sections in Mingus's pieces

    • @SadChimchar
      @SadChimchar 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@innocentoctave can you give me some examples of that early jazz sound? For the sax

  • @mazobojo
    @mazobojo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2485

    For a “Classical” player he swings a lot lol

    • @pacoltrane
      @pacoltrane 3 ปีที่แล้ว +193

      I think he is emphasizing beats 1 and 3 on purpose most of the time and mocking extreme estacatto, quite the opposite to swing (at least from a technical point of view). Well, obviously the guy can play jazz, so he had to do an effort and slipped some times, heh.

    • @David-ee9nc
      @David-ee9nc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Feels like 40s jazz and th he one in the right or modern jazz. I'm an orchestra player, I dont really know what I'm talking about.

    • @KbIPbIL0
      @KbIPbIL0 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's his interpretation xD

    • @trumpetplayerrayden7631
      @trumpetplayerrayden7631 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@David-ee9nc he’s doing more of like what you’d see as a jazz ww1 era, where they liked to do emphasized swing with a dark tone before Benny Goodman and loui Armstrong came in to the picture

    • @pizzasteveplayingthesax
      @pizzasteveplayingthesax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My dude, that is not swing. That is a dotted eighth sixteenth used in modern classical to imitate swing.

  • @FoolishFrankie
    @FoolishFrankie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1558

    Omg the “swing” on the Charlie Parker lick had me dead 😂😂

    • @jackburnette4883
      @jackburnette4883 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      seriously, i'm playing billy's bounce right now and that sent a shiver down my spine.

    • @lilibethsalazarmartinez915
      @lilibethsalazarmartinez915 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Show me dumb ways to destroy my reeds 7w7

    • @FoolishFrankie
      @FoolishFrankie 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      lilibeth 8088 Omggg you’ve seen those videos that’s so funny 😂😂

    • @jakebickham123
      @jakebickham123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@ericolens3 That is the best shitpost I've ever seen.

    • @GuboGuo
      @GuboGuo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Koko?

  • @onesyphorus
    @onesyphorus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1930

    _"If you have the sheet music written down,"_ BIG "IF"

    • @micahslobcrud5958
      @micahslobcrud5958 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      That's the joke part, eh? I recall at the 1991 NFA (National Flute Convention) in D.C., there were various cats floating their wares, and this cat from Trenton, NJ, whose name I forget but whose book I bought, did a demo, and he played written out solos on jazz chord changes (he handed out a sheet to all assembled to hear his "Schpiel" with the selection he was gonna play with notes and all writ out) and I had to smack my hand against my mouth when someone in the crowd said, after he had finished playing along with his tape, (yes, tape back then)...she said "I see you played notes that weren't in the score." How hard it was to keep from bursting out laughing, although I'm sure somebody in that crowd must've laughed with me. It was a highlight ot the convention for me. Sheesh! it's all music, eh?? Let go, embrace new stuff! You or I may not like certain forms of new music, but so what? IT HAS EVER BEEN THUS ! Beethoven was ridiculed, Chopin was, too, and sadly, becuz we have no press of indigenous cultures long ago (nor indigenous cultures in the HERE AND NOW), we know nothing of their genius in the musical realms, for, as Eric Dolphy said..."When it's gone, in the air, you can never capture it again." By this I do not mean to NOT call attention to the vast musical cultures around this world, but I ask myself and yourself...didja try sumpin new musically today? if so, good. Here's an ideer for the west---look up AINU music from Northern Japan. Look up Bollywood music from India, look up punk rock from Germany in the 1980's (like Tanzdiele or Tanzdiebe).. how about Bulgarian Rap? There is never enuf time to absorb the WOILD, but recall that it is better to focus on a few things than to spread your time in too many endeavors--I speak from experience, at 61. We study books and learn licks and try to emulate, but the reality calling you is "BE YOURSELF." Music is a deeply spiritual path, and to find your own voice seems disheartening manytimes, but YOU ARE WHO YOU ARE. YOUR MUSIC May not be loved in this lifetime, but so what? You'll be back to try again, but no matta, for fame is dangerous and so is lotsa money. And when you have money or fame or both, there will be Forces trying to get you to do things that you don't want to do. And remember how it was to just create your own little idea, in your own space, maybe with friends or maybve alone, but that is VERY different than being world famous and bothered by wacko fans.! Peace and love to all who've read this far!

    • @gordylan04
      @gordylan04 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Micah Slobcrud what

    • @anobesewalnut8yearsago994
      @anobesewalnut8yearsago994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      II YoloChips II exactly what I’m thinking 😂

    • @anobesewalnut8yearsago994
      @anobesewalnut8yearsago994 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Micah Slobcrud u good?

    • @timhnichols
      @timhnichols 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What you actually found the sheet music? #blowsthedustoff

  • @Gabriel_Micah
    @Gabriel_Micah 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3780

    dude sounded more like a clarinet than a sax with that round tone LOL

    • @TheVoitel
      @TheVoitel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +198

      That’s what a saxophone sounds like. You might be most familiar with the typical modern jazz solo sound, which emphasizes a more free and less controlled style of playing, lots of articulation specific to jazz (and only little classical articulation) and bright, penetrating sound. It is in some way less elegant and musical, but more rough and bold, which is what you want in this style (and makes a lot of sense, for in jazz you’d usually have gigs in places where things like soft dynamics do not matter, but you need a sound that carries over a band, bad acoustics and background noise).
      But in conventional saxophone playing the standard tone is something in between clarinet, violoncello and cor anglais, the soprano more like oboe and trumpet, the bari and lower like bassoon, horn, and double bass. Especially due to the control a good player has over the brightness and the shape of the sound (vibrato, articulation), a saxophone can do quite a lot of different sounds in classical style, especially in an ensemble. A bari can produce a sound quite similar to a violoncello in character, it can sound like a bassoon, like a horn, or whatever. A soprano can sound like a trumpet.

    • @Ardjano234
      @Ardjano234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      Because it has to blend with an orchestra

    • @TheVoitel
      @TheVoitel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @Doppelpunktdrei I humbly ask you to accept my apology.

    • @ryansanders9273
      @ryansanders9273 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      TheVoitel u should say classical sax playing, or like “the idiom for X time period” but not conventional. That presupposes the idea that the classical practice (or any practice) is the musical standard when it definitely is not.

    • @TheVoitel
      @TheVoitel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@ryansanders9273 But there is no such thing as classical practice. Especially in modern classical music you need to be able to be very versatile
      So for me it makes sense to categorize into conventional playing as the instrument was intended for, and modern play styles such as jazz and contemporary classical technique.

  • @MikaeIe90
    @MikaeIe90 3 ปีที่แล้ว +434

    The constant eye rolls, shoulder shrugs, and “swinging” did it for me lol

    • @dartfamily3409
      @dartfamily3409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The dude’s seriously pissing me off. Idk why, its just a video.

  • @kingamphibian8645
    @kingamphibian8645 3 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    I love to think that the classical guy just walks around with his concert attire on at all times

  • @fdaehbcswcfaqgh576
    @fdaehbcswcfaqgh576 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10639

    Jazz is cool but have you ever played a tritone in a church

    • @Roxanneredpanda
      @Roxanneredpanda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +137

      I mean in Jazz you do often play tritones

    • @Fmajor7
      @Fmajor7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      👁👁👄👄👁👁

    • @hedgesolo4977
      @hedgesolo4977 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

      I literally laughed so hard, I'm not kidding

    • @abnelhidalgo1784
      @abnelhidalgo1784 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      All the time 😎

    • @viperdragz4403
      @viperdragz4403 4 ปีที่แล้ว +117

      Daniel thrasher intensifies

  • @frannymae4340
    @frannymae4340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3931

    Being a classical sax snob is like being a kicker on a basketball court.

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +288

      LOL

    • @cfraz116
      @cfraz116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      💀💀💀

    • @cracksologic81
      @cracksologic81 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Indeed

    • @theblackbasketball
      @theblackbasketball 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      It’s like being a quarterback on a soccer field

    • @thechickenfriedredneck910
      @thechickenfriedredneck910 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Sadly There aren't very many Claasical bands with sax. Jazz is kinda our thing. Seriously why would they want Clairenets over saxes?

  • @jaredisalobster6438
    @jaredisalobster6438 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1256

    How come Jesse looks like he's at a lower resolution than the rest of the screen?

    • @peterkeys1105
      @peterkeys1105 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Sitting slightly closer to the camera, slightly out of focus

    • @TDo280199
      @TDo280199 3 ปีที่แล้ว +80

      Rare insult

    • @Zyborggian
      @Zyborggian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "I AM... ____"

    • @zebmiller510
      @zebmiller510 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      by the order of the galactic senate, you are under arrest

    • @yomamasaccount
      @yomamasaccount 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sitting out of focus

  • @gxtmfa
    @gxtmfa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +460

    Classical saxophonists confuse me. There’s just way less repertoire and celebration of the instrument in classical music. I’m seriously convinced orchestral composers just have some sort of bizarre, inborn hatred of the Sax because it’s a truly agile, versatile, and beautiful instrument that can blend well amongst woodwinds and brass, but the old masters of orchestral composition we revere today severely neglected to include the Sax in so many of their works.

    • @rinkokonoe8644
      @rinkokonoe8644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Cuz sax is so new

    • @gothiccircle4283
      @gothiccircle4283 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

      Because it didn’t exist until the early 1840’s.

    • @mechwarrior5727
      @mechwarrior5727 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      There's a bunch of history behind it
      As for rep, play clarinet, oboe or bassoon parts, allows a lot of rep that already exists, but problems arise of course

    • @classicalytrumpet9190
      @classicalytrumpet9190 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      All the people who controlled the orchestras and paid the composers really dislike the guy who invented the sax so the composers and orchestras didnt use saxes because they wanted to get paid. Then it just became normal to not have saxes and it hasnt really changed because a lot of orchestras are rooted in “tradition”

    • @spicywind8607
      @spicywind8607 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      A) It's relatively new compared to most orchestral instruments
      B) Yes, there were some composers who were put off the Saxophone during the 19th century, but the 20th century brought a lot of orchestral Saxaphone to the stage.

  • @KleinkMusic
    @KleinkMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1039

    Okay jokes aside you have an amazing classical sound.

  • @ninoky6525
    @ninoky6525 4 ปีที่แล้ว +466

    The S L A P P tongue was hilarious

  • @Kizzercrate
    @Kizzercrate 4 ปีที่แล้ว +672

    This was 100% my college saxophone experience. Great documentary LOL

  • @leonardobarrios9291
    @leonardobarrios9291 3 ปีที่แล้ว +437

    “If you have the sheet music written down”
    :plays with eyes closed

    • @ithinkmallardsarecool5859
      @ithinkmallardsarecool5859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Stolen comment

    • @scumemg8021
      @scumemg8021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ithinkmallardsarecool5859 fr lmao. Right under the original. Mfs do anything for likes. Just like Twitter fr.

  • @thegoodgeneral
    @thegoodgeneral 3 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    The jamming session was super fun. Satire yes, but it made me think a “dueling saxophones” piece with chamber orchestra and jazz trio would be super fun.

  • @ohnyo64
    @ohnyo64 4 ปีที่แล้ว +627

    the eyebrows doe

  • @ZackGrooves
    @ZackGrooves 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2018

    Nobody:
    College Freshman minoring in Jazz: 4:07

    • @BariSaxGod25
      @BariSaxGod25 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      That’s some real Rudy Wiedoeft shit

    • @kmack764
      @kmack764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I'm guilty of this 😂

    • @josevalenzuela3477
      @josevalenzuela3477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Ngl even though I know he plays jazz irl, that part made me cringe so hard 😖

    • @Sully365
      @Sully365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      CAN CONFIRM

    • @LowReedExpert1
      @LowReedExpert1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BariSaxGod25 right? Great in context, but so outdated lol

  • @caitlunsford2440
    @caitlunsford2440 4 ปีที่แล้ว +395

    my mans “swinging” got me DEAD 😭😭💀💀💀

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Lololol

    • @drewclarinet
      @drewclarinet 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ☠️☠️☠️🤣🤣🤣

  • @aka_Jdizzle
    @aka_Jdizzle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    “Only if you have the sheet music printed” **proceeds to close eyes every time**

  • @8675309342
    @8675309342 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello this is Jesse Shelton's best friend since elementary school here. I just wanted to apologize for his humor... our jokes, acting, and video making prowess have not improved since middle school. And I love this video deeply because of it! Can't believe I stumbled on this jem. Thanks saxlogic giving me a good laugh, and thanks TH-cam algorithm for showing me my friend in the thumbnail of a video I didn't know existed.

  • @joshduebber1071
    @joshduebber1071 4 ปีที่แล้ว +222

    I’ve gotten so used to hearing you play jazz lately I forgot how crazy good of a classical player you are

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

      You are a good man

    • @kyle_nguyener
      @kyle_nguyener 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ah yes, I’ll be known as Joshes first subscriber

  • @Blockpit
    @Blockpit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +856

    Dude in Black's just playing looney tunes songs

    • @lzasyr
      @lzasyr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @David Gray no the dude in black

    • @gunnerlowe828
      @gunnerlowe828 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lzasyr oh sorry

    • @ohimfinnadie
      @ohimfinnadie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @David Gray who tf is that

    • @hoodlum6776
      @hoodlum6776 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ohimfinnadie the dude in the black

    • @marvinsahuleka7793
      @marvinsahuleka7793 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hoodlum6776 yeah but like...who is that?

  • @gavinm9249
    @gavinm9249 4 ปีที่แล้ว +696

    the amount of shit I’d gotten when i played a cannonball omg it’s like people don’t realize I’m ballin on a budget

    • @RogelioEscobar
      @RogelioEscobar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Nothing wrong with Cannonball. I am very happy with my Vintage Reborn Alto.
      It was the closest I found to a 1958 Mark VI Selmer I used to own (badly relacquered, tons of physical and mechanical issues). Its just a little brighter but has very similar tone color.
      They are great horns.

    • @MaxDad7
      @MaxDad7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      There's some high level players in the industry that play Cannonball. There's nothing wrong with them man.

    • @bigsnozitaliano9494
      @bigsnozitaliano9494 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Only thing I have a problem with is that if you don’t get the right jazz mouth piece, some of the notes are either quite flat or somewhat sharp, the stock mouth piece works just fine though lol

    • @carlostrevino1359
      @carlostrevino1359 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love my cannonball I play on a gerald albright edition I like it even more than selmer or Yamahas

    • @bigsnozitaliano9494
      @bigsnozitaliano9494 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Freddy Trevino yooooooo same. But I’ve played on a professional selmer and let me tell you, I thought about buying it on the spot! Since I’m a lead alto I love being loud, and you can blow so much more air into that thing, and it sounds a little less bright

  • @DJAnthrocide
    @DJAnthrocide 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is it just me or do I like BOTH of these guys??? Classical dude's tone is beautiful, his phrasing is melodious w/ just a hint of irony and humor, he's very, very good...

  • @TomMilleyMusic
    @TomMilleyMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    5:02 - 5:08 dear god that got me good lmao

  • @LowReedExpert1
    @LowReedExpert1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +117

    The classical blues sounds like when you're messing around during a blues trying to get your band mates to laugh

  • @PacmanRocks100
    @PacmanRocks100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    In a completely unbiased opinion, lick 1 and 3 with a classical embouchure sounded actually quite nice. Sounded pretty close to how the early swing players sounded on ballads. Prob because they came from clarinet first and had darker, large chamber mpcs with large bore saxes, giving a dark, velvety tone. Maybe a case for teaching multiple, flexible embouchures?

    • @JazzGuitarNoob
      @JazzGuitarNoob 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. He'd fit right in with Glenn Miller's orchestra. It sounds awesome to me.

    • @joseramirez2310
      @joseramirez2310 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Jazz Guitar Noob Can confirm. My friend plays 2nd alto in the GMO. They are all white too.

    • @rashakor
      @rashakor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Classical/jazz; clarinet/sax. We would all greatly benefit of each other’s teaching as they are so many technical overlaps and interesting coloring between these disciplines. I found jazz/purist no less unsufferable than classical/clarinet snobs

    • @vicbulbon8821
      @vicbulbon8821 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      so I am not the only one having that thought. Guys like Ben Webster, Benny carter, and Johnny Hodges had absolutely beautiful round tones. As a classic swing person those tones are not foreign for me at all. Even Rudy Weidoeft with that heavenly tone of his. Swings pretty hard too. I guess many modern saxophonist's sound concept came from the Charlie Parker and Cannonball Adderley schools so it has to be bright.

  • @Zer0TheProdigy
    @Zer0TheProdigy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:45 His face every single time he touches lips to the sax is GOLD!

  • @mellowords
    @mellowords 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Genius concept and execution, 11/10
    The classical guy even has the conductor hair. Perfection

  • @jordanmacias5590
    @jordanmacias5590 4 ปีที่แล้ว +320

    As someone who has only studied classical, I've always felt my jazz playing could be better. I have too many classical tendencies when playing jazz. Our lead alto this year primarily plays jazz but studies classical on the side, so I'm thankful to have him as lead this year

    • @cheath1017
      @cheath1017 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What’s his name?

    • @samc5934
      @samc5934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      SlothMaster101 lmao you’re the type of person this whole thing makin fun of bruv

    • @jordanmacias5590
      @jordanmacias5590 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@samc5934 lol, I know. Hence why I commented about it and stated that I'm glad we have a jazz saxophonist as lead this year instead of me.

    • @samc5934
      @samc5934 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Jordan Macias oh no I was responding to the guy who said jazz was just watered down classical. Both are incredible styles that take lots of understanding of an instrument and it’s tones. I think having a lead who studies both is super productive, my oboe lead plays literally everything in every style and gives us great insight. Very different from saxophone but I recognize the value

    • @antniomanso
      @antniomanso 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      i can feel you bro, i’m a classical studying trombone, and when i go improvising in jazz i almost everytime end up sounding like it’s from a symphony or from arban studies, sometimes i unconsciously end up playing excerpts, like, anything in E minor and you will surely have a bit from tchaikovsky 5, two of my friends (flute and double bass) even joined the meme and we ended up playing a whole jam session spamming classical excerpts, the vibe was amazing, stretching up standards that in our hands would normally last 8 minutes to 15 or 20, just so we could play like half of our orchester probespiels, the pianists and drummer were amazing so they were like “fuck this now we’re not playing only jazz anymore we’re playing classical too” and So What started in D minor and ended up in C# Minor (cuz the trumpet solo in the beginning of Mahler 5). We even ended up playing full fugues, like Mahler’s Symphony No. 1 3rd movement (minor scale frere jacques), as well as medieval tunes.
      i still want to become a classical trombone, like, with my fixed seat at the berliner philharmoniker or something like that, and won’t plan to invest a lot of time in jazz, but definitely won’t abandon it at all, as it’s there where you have a little bit more creative freedom and can have a kind of fun equivalent to playing a tchaikovsky symphony or something, but while being even more chill

  • @bglahe3891
    @bglahe3891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    I was genuinely confused for a second because I was expecting him to be the jazz saxophonist

  • @MissIceMateria
    @MissIceMateria 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can we talk about that "Classical Player"s tone though????? So CLEAN!

  • @aidancessna1548
    @aidancessna1548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "As long as you have the sheet music written down for me"
    *closes eyes everytime he plays*

  • @randomchannel-px6ho
    @randomchannel-px6ho 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1767

    The Modern Day:
    Classical Musicians: Who cares about Jazz they're not even musicians they just play the wrong notes
    The 1830s:
    Chopin: Hey guys here's an etude I wrote emphasizing the wrong notes. Hey Liszt, why don't you try it?

    • @vegas6824
      @vegas6824 4 ปีที่แล้ว +113

      I'm a classical musician and I absolutely love jazz, I'd rather you say classical elitist or something

    • @mathieutdf5446
      @mathieutdf5446 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      this étude is wayyy more than just wrong note

    • @TomasMikaX
      @TomasMikaX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Which etude is that?

    • @gigatesla
      @gigatesla 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Stockhausen: Hold my piano

    • @js1.987
      @js1.987 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Tomáš Mika it’s etude op. 25 no 5 here’s a link th-cam.com/video/F8MIH47br5w/w-d-xo.html

  • @Saxopwned23
    @Saxopwned23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    tonguing every beat playing swing really takes me back to when I learned I literally didn't know anything about jazz freshman year of college LOL

    • @Turt3752
      @Turt3752 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      SaxopwnedTV as a trombonist, hearing that some woodwind players flat-out don’t tongue every note was my eye-opener lol

    • @DHawkBeats
      @DHawkBeats 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wait can you explain I also don’t know anything abt jazz or wind instruments

  • @AlbertonJiggletip
    @AlbertonJiggletip 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think they both sound great. Its not really the sax alone, its what's being played by the pianist and the swing of the percussionist that makes it bluesy.

  • @tgdubplayz2578
    @tgdubplayz2578 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The disgusted looks that Saxologic gives when Jesse plays anything and the sighs after a crisp release have me on the floor laughing 😂

  • @furtherdefinitions1
    @furtherdefinitions1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Actually, in imitating the "jazz" player's music, his tone is the way early jazz players sounded. BTW, most classical players, like my father, started out in a conservatory, and before you even get down on your instrument you have to learn solfeggio identifying the notes and pitches by ear. My father switched to big band later and made the transition easily and actually was able to transcribe big band charts to paper by just listening to the recordings.

  • @lucasharvey4389
    @lucasharvey4389 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    not saying that this guy isn’t an absolute beast at jazz, but i think his classical sound is NEXT LEVEL

  • @DeletedUser73926
    @DeletedUser73926 4 ปีที่แล้ว +334

    I won’t lie the classical player ego is such a real thing, I hate it 😂
    jazz gang

    • @jacobbass6437
      @jacobbass6437 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      Trust me. Not all of us are like this.

    • @BronsonSelf
      @BronsonSelf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jacobbass6437 we know

    • @valebliz
      @valebliz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jacobbass6437 true, but there's a few of you like this even in the comments

    • @jacobbass6437
      @jacobbass6437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@valebliz. Ummmmm at pretty much every university, it’s the jazz department that’s highly competitive and sometimes abusive.

    • @doormatcat
      @doormatcat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have been playing for over 6 years now but I never got introduced to jazz before like a year ago so I'm saving up for a jazz mouthpiece.

  • @SgtByrd93
    @SgtByrd93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    5:07 is the point where my ribs were in agony

  • @laszlokovacs5885
    @laszlokovacs5885 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The black suit guy is really good, clean and bright tone. And good sense of humor.

  • @soggy6146
    @soggy6146 4 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    When asked for sheet music, he definitely just pulled out the Charlie Parker omnibook

  • @stockicide
    @stockicide 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I thought this was gonna be a dunk on classical saxophone players, but this was surprisingly pleasant to listen to.

  • @lcope2004
    @lcope2004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A true musician can appreciate both

  • @directcurrent5751
    @directcurrent5751 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Both players are top in their technicals and amazingly versatile.

  • @BourdeoixEterno
    @BourdeoixEterno 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Bruh even when Saxologic tries to play bad it still sounds pretty good

  • @MankDemes551
    @MankDemes551 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    5:30 The Glazunov lick

  • @timothychilds4975
    @timothychilds4975 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    All jokes aside, I actually know people who think about jazz as an inferior art form to classical music. Making the same claims in the video. I really hope they see this because this is spot on lmao.

    • @timothychilds4975
      @timothychilds4975 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Royal S Art is subjective. Some things may not be your aesthetic like jazz music however i believe they are all equally artistic depending on the listener.

    • @rainbowdash9388
      @rainbowdash9388 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Royal S music should draw out emotion. If you’re required to be professional at all times while listening, then all the work of the composer is wasted. There is nothing inherently superior about professionalism in music.
      Classical music excels at telling stories and conveying emotions with its composition, and is not better than any other music because of its “fanciness.”

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I made this video specifically for people like you. It’s very apparent that you have been to a very limited amount of jazz events. Have you been to Jazz at Lincoln Center? It contradicts everything you’re saying. And it’s also apparent you have never sat in a rehearsal of virtuosic jazz players or played in a masterclass with one. I encourage you to broaden your perspective. In the meantime you have inspired new lines for my next iteration of this video!

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ahh well I do see where you’re coming from. But I do think when a jazz group of players play together for many years, the artistic element is a lot more nuanced than we would expect. Great groups make it sound easy but the amount of sensitivity is crazy and the different skills required is also formidable. I don’t think it’s worth putting one or the other down. Someone who spends 10,000 hours in either one are gonna achieve insane things in different areas

  • @daekim9213
    @daekim9213 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    *Jazz:* The cool kid in band
    *Classical:* The arrogant nerd in band

  • @dgamer5075
    @dgamer5075 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That squared swinging the classical snob did sounds just like my high school wind ensemble trying to swing. It's not just treating eighths as eighth triplets all staccato, it's about making the first eighth stronger.

  • @carterpochynok4874
    @carterpochynok4874 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Omg this is like jazz drummers talking to literally any other kind of drummer lol

  • @channingshows6634
    @channingshows6634 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    When you started playing Ibert that shit was so funny

  • @subversiveasset
    @subversiveasset 4 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    i'm a garbage musician and i'm definitely telling on myself hardcore by commenting this, but i honestly and unironically preferred the classical sound for the lick trials.

  • @jaredmatthewsmith7121
    @jaredmatthewsmith7121 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Brotha’s got a nice classical tone
    That cat on the cannonball has got a killer jazz tone
    2 different schools of thought side by side-awesome contrast

  • @tereza_j
    @tereza_j 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m sorry but he CANNOT ACT RUDE 💀the eyerolls 😭✋

  • @nolano8279
    @nolano8279 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    legend says he likes every single comment
    edit: it took 27 seconds for him to like

  • @schniT_T
    @schniT_T 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I'm happy to say that all the classical snobs I know are cut out of my life. My first piano teacher...oof. She once tried to explain to me why classical is superior: "well think of it this way: jazz, rock, all of that is like a village dialect. Classical is the language Pushkin spoke."
    Dialects are just as fascinating if not more fascinating, but that's beside the point because I think that her analogy is wrong on a much more fundamental level.

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Ugh that’s painful. What is up with that? Why are people so close minded? Can’t stand it.

    • @chico305SIGMA
      @chico305SIGMA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Let's put it this way classical is for the upper class aka the important people and jazz is for the working Man The working poor the average Joe. Lol I'm just messing with you. I love BOTH!!! People who are real music nerds love all types of music.

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      George Washington Oh man I gotta use that one in the next part

    • @thetickedoffpianoplayer4193
      @thetickedoffpianoplayer4193 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had teachers like that when I was in college. Now I would probably tell them to bite me.

  • @colinlinvill1310
    @colinlinvill1310 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    You could totally make a real song with dueling sax solos, one of which plays more classical and the other doing complex jazz bits

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I was thinking about doing a Canon in D for classical alto and jazz alto

  • @thomascarter8833
    @thomascarter8833 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    2:20 that gliss was crazy

  • @edonough
    @edonough 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Classical saxophonist here. This is fabulously funny!

  • @skrillex5939
    @skrillex5939 4 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Is this what the saxs talked about all day, I’m a French horn player btw

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Ayeee

    • @gxtmfa
      @gxtmfa 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      As some who doesn’t play sax, this does take me back to conversations I overheard daily in high school

    • @omamajohnpaul4215
      @omamajohnpaul4215 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The French horn is the best. Hope you're proud of it👍

    • @skrillex5939
      @skrillex5939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@omamajohnpaul4215 I am, I get all the ladies with my horn

  • @chiangui24
    @chiangui24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I love jazz and I think the classical touch really adds a wonderful element to the saxophone. It feels closer to the older big band solos like with Glenn Miller.

    • @bill3837
      @bill3837 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      im a jazz musician and i stretch out from there. i got to say i li sten to classical music to keep my sound tighter

  • @betterthanisound
    @betterthanisound 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Probably one of the best examples demonstrating the differences between classical and Jazz sax I’ve seen. OK done with humour and a little mocking of classical players in this example (though I think that helps demonstrate the point even more), so clever. Well done. Can’t wait for the next instalment, vice versa....

  • @CalamansiKing
    @CalamansiKing 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone who really enjoys both classical and jazz sax I've met MANY like i mean MANY classical saxophonists that think it's the superior type. I'm really happy that in real life most classical saxophonist don't think this way and that jazz saxophonist don't think classical saxophonist think this way.

  • @Baribrotzer
    @Baribrotzer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    God, what a sound - half Twenties cornball novelty, half Frenchman with his head in a bucket. And those expressions! Like you're the coolest thing on earth, and have no idea that jazz players haven't sounded like that for almost a hundred years. That must have needed a lot of takes, to get one where nobody cracked up.

  • @MikeySaxMusic
    @MikeySaxMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣 PERFECT! All of us saxophone players went to school w THAT guy!

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      exactly lmaoooo

  • @Ardjano234
    @Ardjano234 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    "wow, stellar."
    "It really was!"

  • @chestly4608
    @chestly4608 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am a Jazz Alto player myself, but honestly i rather have a brighter sound and be more able to express myself like the "classical" player in this sketch rather than having almost no expression as the Jazz player did here... They were both great and i love the humor though!

  • @jennifergrubb3422
    @jennifergrubb3422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is HILARIOUS! I have been a classical flutist for 18 years. I just bought a sax and started to learn jazz. I get so frustrated because I just want to see a piece of sheet music hahaha

  • @moiraapplebaum9674
    @moiraapplebaum9674 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your scoopy "blues" lines in this video have HAUNTED me lately. I couldn't get them out of my head at 2 in the morning so I had to come and comment. Thanks 🤓

  • @MelodiousThunk
    @MelodiousThunk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    You totally nailed the smugness and inability to swing, but the average classical musician can't follow chord changes like that!

    • @kjcorder
      @kjcorder 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Got the sheet music? Sure! here's the chart watch the changes and try to keep up.

  • @musiew683
    @musiew683 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Patrick Mahomes’s football career was going so well, why did he quit to become a full-time saxophonist?

  • @Ayden3D
    @Ayden3D 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    BRUH LITERALLY ALL THOSE SELMER AND YAMAHA DUDES DISSING MY CANNONBALL EXACTLY LIKE THIS VIDEO DOES

    • @fulviostel2445
      @fulviostel2445 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can't say that a cannonball is better then a selmer but the pepole that say that you can't own another tipe of saxophone is really stupid.

    • @Ayden3D
      @Ayden3D 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah I’m not saying that one is better than the other I’m just tired of people saying cannonball is a crap brand

  • @marcovalentini5741
    @marcovalentini5741 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I expect the very different tone, but what amazes me is the completely different time feel and rhythmic attack even in such short passages.

  • @daylinturcios5683
    @daylinturcios5683 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    He’s made so many of these videos but I can never get tired of them 😅

  • @seppyq3672
    @seppyq3672 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    That moment when you know nothing about this instrument and can't tell which is the "jazz musician "

  • @bomedy1075
    @bomedy1075 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    5:05 you sure that's still classical?! LMAO

    • @sigmawaveproductions
      @sigmawaveproductions 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Remember when your speakers would make that sound before you got a text or phone call? 😂

  • @malikamajjoud8324
    @malikamajjoud8324 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Asks for sheet music, plays everything with closed eyes

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just pretend :D

  • @vermine18
    @vermine18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    4:50 the way Jesse picked up on that was amazing

  • @peterday1834
    @peterday1834 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just purchased your book of exercises in all 12 keys and after only a couple pf days with it, I can already see some change! I LOVE IT! Thank you so much!!

  • @grayfox3057
    @grayfox3057 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That dude’s sound is great

  • @scomdnz9
    @scomdnz9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:51.....u just slayed Bird with that hippity skippity rhythm lol

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tee-taw jazz!!!!

  • @pelagiamartin4284
    @pelagiamartin4284 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jesse gives me ECU Band Camp flashbacks that I really would rather ~not~ be having

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What happened? Haha

  • @johncoltrane7018
    @johncoltrane7018 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the fact that he still reads the comments on this video

  • @curtisbritcher7373
    @curtisbritcher7373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “Classical saxophone “... is that what they call an oxymoron? Seriously, love the humor.

    • @jessecohen4517
      @jessecohen4517 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beleive it or not, sax was originally an orchestral instrument. It still is in some french orchestras

  • @savannahmallery7066
    @savannahmallery7066 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Classical saxophonists just always sound like they’re trying not to be a saxophone player

    • @Caillouteletub123
      @Caillouteletub123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Jazz flutiste always sound like they're not trying to play the flute.

    • @theresachacon1122
      @theresachacon1122 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Caillouteletub123 Exactly why I leave flute for concert and marching band only.

  • @RogelioEscobar
    @RogelioEscobar 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Dude....hilarious....
    "Unlacquered...I don't know what that is"
    "jazz....oh that's what you're playing"

  • @miniongeorge60
    @miniongeorge60 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have thankfully never had to see other people in my band class act like this, but all the orchestra kids act like this

  • @camdenburke3039
    @camdenburke3039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know this video is meant as comical relief but its pretty amazing how different they make the same instrument sound

  • @MRIHAVENOTHINGTOSHOW
    @MRIHAVENOTHINGTOSHOW 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Am I tripping or is saxologic clear and the other guy is blurry

  • @raybercse1
    @raybercse1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These dudes are cool, daddy-O. They play well off each other.

  • @LegoCrafterStudiosAnimation
    @LegoCrafterStudiosAnimation 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "I have but why don't you demonstrate?" That broke me. He's so tired of his s**t.

  • @eternal_hangnail
    @eternal_hangnail 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was the first video of yours i watched, and thought "this is way too cheesy for me" but after watching more of your content and coming back I'm thinking "this is perfectly cheesy"

  • @Radjammin
    @Radjammin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Legit Sax is getting good for a job that doesn’t exist.