Jay its a great list and 10 isn't many but I would put sweet papa Lou Donaldson in instead of ornette Coleman maybe there isn't any room for the great Sonny Criss and perhaps I would throw Art Pepper in there replacing I don't know Paul Desmond maybe
Charlie Parker is who inspired me to start playing, I grew up in Camarillo and his song Relaxing in Camarillo has always been a fall back reminds there are people crazier than me
I saw the Dave Brubeck Quartet live at Northern Illinois University in 1965 when I graduated from high school and marveled at their cohesiveness. I ended up studying music there and it has become a great music program, especially for jazz players/singers. Paul Desmond could improvise long passages and always maintained an almost stork like stance :-)
That short segment of Desmond does not really show his incredible lyrical playing at his best - in fact that whole performance (I believe from a playboy club long ago) was not the best showcase of the entire quartet - much of the songs seemed rushed and the players just don't seem that relaxed.
So many great players here and as always you presented it all so well. I thought you would have mentioned Art Pepper who’s tone and command was just so brilliant.
@@YourTripleScorpio Yes, his later stuff was quite a bit different from what he was doing it the 1950's. I especially like stuff, I think, from his Living Legend (1975) album and later. Frank Morgan, who Pepper played with whie serving time in San Quentin prison, is another top alto guy.
When it comes to beautiful melodic lines, a great sound, being unique not only in bop, but in every style he plays, with a touch of humor thrown in, PHIL WOODS was second to none!
Eric Dolphy deserves a mention in there - his virtuosity, melodic and harmonic "out" development is beyond reproach. I remember buying "Out To Lunch" in High School, it giving me a massive headache and putting it away for a year, then playing it non-stop because it was just so good.
Cannonball is my favorite all time. I listened to all of them, but when I heard Cannonball for the first time, I knew he was my guy. The soul he put into every single note made him so much fun to listen to. He had the technical chops to play with all the other big cats, but every tune he played was filled with emotion where the other guys sometimes felt like they were going through the motions. He was underrated for his time, but now it seems like he gets the recognition he deserves among sax players I meet.
Two candidates for the "Part 2" - I'm sure you thought of these guys, but I can't fault any of your choices :) These guys belong in the top 10 too... I guess that means we go to 12. * Eric Dolphy (I see from other comments that he has been mentioned a lot) * Kenny Garrett - didn't see his name on ANY comments, which is sad. One of the best alto saxophonists of all time in my opinion, he has an instantly identifiable and distinctive sound and style. Honorable mention, in case you are looking for names for the "top ten part 2..." * Art Pepper - very influential, an interesting meld of hard bop and West Coast styles. * Sonny Fortune - a unique voice, with unique tone and unique melodic thought * Marshal Royal - one of the best lead alto players ever.
I immediately thought of Kenny Garrett, though I can see how he gets pushed out of a top ten by all the legends on this list. Eric Dolby as an omission seems criminal, but I didn’t remember him until I saw it commented.
See my comment above, omitting Dolphy and Garrett is puzzling - and Sonny Fortune another "sleeper." Royal was a great lead alto player - but with Johnny Hodges on the list I think Royal's absence is not as glaring.
I started playing the Sax when I was 11 years old. I fell in love with the Sax at 12 years of age when my uncle gave me a Johnny Hodges compilation. His playing was and still is, extraordinarily good.
Desmond had the most identifiable tone and sound. In fact, only Acker Bilk and Coltrane have had an equally instantly identifiable timbre. Great educational service here! Cheers!
I don't fully agree also Ornette and at least Lee Konitz had such personal and instantly identifiable tone, but, to be honest I'd say the same at least for Bird and Hodges.
Phil Woods said “i never got Charlies horn. I mean i got his wife, and i stole his licks But not his horn” Phil played a Gold plated Mk6, that Marcel Mule handpicked for him at the selmer factory in Paris. Later up until his death he played a custom Yamaha. I’m happy Phil got mentioned - he was such a collosus and a humble soul.
Good one! I don't think Bird ever had a horn - at least not one that didn't make it into the pawn shop after a gig. Red Rodney in some interview said that Bird could have played a tomato can and made it sing good. On the Massey Hall record he's playing that plastic thing and it sounds like the best Selmer ever made. And yes, Phil was an awesome player.
Phil talks about playing Bird's Super 20 on a gig when he had hocked his own horn to buy groceries. Mingus walked in, saw it, and gave Phil the side-eye. He talks about it on a JazzWax interview. Presumably after he left Chan the horn stayed with Chan.
Hearing him on Just the way you are made me seek him out, so I'm glad he crossed over. What a sound! To me, there's something oddly Freudian about him switching from a Selmer to a Yamaha horn, as that probably has some purists fuming. This, however, from someone who hasn't yet played a Selmer.
@@robkunkel8833 I was honored to repair Phil's horns several times including his clarinet. He was super kind, and always gave me a little concert. It was amazing. :-)
These guys are all so good, so fantastic...but there is one...my god ...he plays his heart out on the alto, it's pure emotion...when he plays the blues you start crying...it's Art Pepper!
Each of these great musicians made a unique contribution. 2 others I would include are Oliver Nelson and Eric Dolphy ( although they played multiple instruments their alto playing was superb.)
Ever heard a musician whose style of play is so distinctive, so intricate, no one can clone it? The rhythm, pulse, nuance, and emotion of Maceo Parker makes him one of the most ORIGINAL altoists of all time. Definitely list worthy
I use to love his playing, but I hardly ever listen to him after reading just a little of his auto biography....he admitted to raping a woman when he was overseas in the UK in the military...
Very enjoyable and articulate presentation. I was a jazz DJ on public radio (KLCC) for quite a few years, and appreciate anyone who communicates their love of jazz. Gary Giddins comes to mind as another jazz ambassador whose enthusiasm is infectious. Keep up the great work.
Paul Desmond. Totally original style. One of the few alto players not influenced by sound or hard bop style of Bird. Phrasing, sound, use of time signatures. And he came into his own as a player even more after his time with Brubeck. His early 60's albums with Jim Hall are required listening. Or just pour a scotch or martini and enjoy.
What an amazing video!! This is not any more "internet saxophone content", this is actual education right here. Appreciate you so much for this video!! As a saxophone teacher, I find myself using your videos more and more to enrich my students. This is a video that I will surely share with them.
Nice going Jay. That’s a great compilation of sax masters. For me Johnny Hodges stands out and has always been my favourite. His blue blue bends and vibrato makes his sax sound so like the human voice, I get the shivers whenever I listen to him.
Jay, I don't even play the Saxophone (love music though) but I love your videos man. The quality of editing, content and general enjoyment in music and in putting out good education on youtube and not some copy paste stuff that we see around is enough to make me binge watched a lot of your videos. Thank you.
Thank you Jay. A great, if not simple, idea to introduce a sort of 'Best of Sax players' into your series. The musicians themselves are more significant than the machines they are playing through, and of course a choice of all things is, or should be, personal. What I also appreciated was your astute observations of the players in doing what they did so naturally. On the only occasion when I witnessed Sonny Stitt live (in the late 1970s), I was mesmerised how little his fingers seemed to move; I thought I too should places my fingers nearer the keys. Lesson learnt!
My high school Saxophone teacher bought Sonny Stitts Alto a few years after that 1965 video. He still has the bill of sale which Sonny Stitt signed. I sent him that video and he told me it probably is. He also said he tried that Otto Link mpc!
Jackie McLean. The Dynasty album knocks me out every time I listen. All are so great. Amazing that so much genius is borne from so much adversity and pain.
Jay, this is fantastic, one of the best yet. I’d love you to do more of this, perhaps a series where you dwell a bit longer on each player. Absolutely loved it. Thanks.
TH-cam is so full of "Top 10" lists of every kind, they get old quick, but this is the best I've ever seen: not trying to foster competition, full of real insight, really educational in the best sense, and driven by an articulate passion. Thanks, Jay.
Started playing when i was 11, lost the drive to get better because of my director in high school, now i’m back it. You’re an amazing player, and your tone is so good. i love your channel, keep it up💛
Me too. No person drove me away, just high school, women, boats and adventure. Now, I’m back to the horn with a new passion ...well, all the passion I can muster aided by cool videos. I never had teacher that inspired me like TH-cam videos do ... especially this guy with the black hat on this video.
Your video on the 10 greatest tenor saxophonists is great because you also talk about the struggles of those players under the harsh racism of the US - it’s great to see that because most people either don’t know or don’t care! I really appreciate your honesty and your own genuine appreciation of these iconic players! You’re also a great player in your own right!
I agree with you. Gryce is one of my favourites. Great fluent altoist. Bluesy (like Eddie 'Cleanhead' Vincent) with the cool sound and thoughtful line development of Lee Konitz.
Really enjoyed this. I liked how you paused the recording and drew our attention to different things and compared/contrasted the different musicians. I would love more breakdowns like that. I struggle sometimes when I'm listening because I don't always know what I'm listening for.
For your part 2 please add the following sax bbn players Lou donaldson. Art pepper. Ace Cannon .I give you a big shout out cause I return to M playing Alto n your Helping me alot
Whatever the list, I really like these TH-cams where you tell us what you're hearing or seeing - details of style, technique etc. Really useful without lining up yet another lick to be learned in "all 12 keys" which noone has the time to do!
A big influence for me was Charlie Mariano, who moved from "classic" modern jazz to world music. He was one of the first jazz musicians playing with musicians from india and then from all over the world. He had a very unique instantly recognizable soulful tone. Charlie moved to germany in the early seventies, maybe that´s why his musical development and his huge influence on crossover/world music ís not so well known in america. Regards from Berlin and thanks for the inspiration, Raffael
@@dylangatenby9928 i was actually familiar w his work already via Pork Pie and Black Saint /Sinner Lady. Always loved the playing on that album but didn't know him by name. To be fair, I was first acquainted with it well before the internet was really a thing! Great to connect those dots and to explore his later work. Such a brilliant tone 👍
I thought he sounded like a Bird clone as I recall first hearing him many years ago with Shelly Manne ,Stu Williamson,et al on an early Contemporary or pac Jazz lp.@@a.nobodys.nobody
I really love Ornette Coleman, I don't think he's appreciated enough, his style of playing is extremely distinct and instantly recognizable. Also Sadness is one of my favorite compositions from him!
I don't like much of the later "free" stuff he did, but I think that a lot of the melodies he wrote, especially with his early quartets, were very catchy. Songs like Una Muy Bonita, Lonely Woman, Focus on Sanity, Broadway Blues and others brought a fresh approach to jazz.
@@esl.mooresongs7993 Agree. Have the "Focus on Sanity" album. I liked how he had a theme that allowed me come along on his musical journey without getting lost. Especially so on Focus on Sanity and Lonely Woman.
I was ready to comment here with "Phil Woods" but you didn't disappoint. Now for a part 2... - Hank Crawford - David Sanborn (hate me all you want, but he's what I think of 80's sax)
Yeah Totally Derrick, If we are talking Alto sax Influence Sanborn is a must. He may not be mainstream Jazz but his sound virtually defines Smooth Jazz and Alto for the last few decades.
I was dancing as one of the performers on the Larry Kane Show in Houston Texas in ~1968 when CannonBall Atterly performed Live. While most artists on that show pantamined to the recorded music tht played over the loudspeakers, Cannonball played live on a riser, that my partner and I were right next to. However, Cannonball was playing a totally different song, in a true jazz fashion, that interfaced, with his song being plaid over the speakers. We said heck lets dance to him and we did. It was amazing. Jimmy Spearow, Ph.D.
I think Cannonball was playing a jazz syncopation to his song that was being broadcast over the loudspeakers. It made danicing east coast swing right beside him even more fun. Thanks for your informative Sax videos. thinking about trying a metal mouthpiece for my old Conn M10 Tenor. Lots of issues to consider.
This is a beautiful production. Thank you for educating us and for putting in the time to make it so enjoyable. I loved seeing you passion shine through in this.
I'd like to add Bud Shank, Kim Richmond and Med Flory. I wish I could see more of that King horn Jay - it looks familiar. I once lacquered just the brass and left the silver neck without lacquer at a customer's request. Thank you for the memories. I was so fortunate to repair for some greats. The great players were the ones who were also humble. You need to be humble to learn and they never stopped learning. I miss so many of them now.
Thanks for this! I thought "Whoa, 19 minutes. Well, I can click through." Every minute was packed with info and yumminess.. Thanks for bringing so much knowledge to this! James Moody seems to be sneaking into my consciousness recently.
Ooh James Moody is a expectational Alto & flute player. I first 👀 him with Dizzy quintet on the BBC jazz 625. His performance was phenomenal & that's what's up!!!
Out of all saxophonists, Sherman Irby is my idol. Perfect sound, very good, yet such simple improvisation. He makes a lot out of a little, and that's why I love watching him so much
This video is so good, it will be required viewing for my students. Thanks so much for the analysis on each one. My thoughts on a Part 2: Art Pepper, Frank Morgan, (maybe considered a Bird clone but oh those ideas and the tone I'd like to emulate), Earl Bostic, and the "elephant in the room" David Sanborn. To me, Sanborn changed Alto style and tone and kept the saxophone in popular music for decades. He told me in a chat after a show that "I tried to sound like Phil Woods but ended up sounding like me". Again, great, great video. You know that after part 2 your viewers are going to be clamoring for a series on Tenor players. Thanks Jay.
Frank Zona I agree. My oldest sister introduced me to jazz with Grover Washington Jr. when I was about 7. Through the pop and rock records I began listening to heard this bright emotional tone of a saxophone on a bunch of records. James Taylor, Carly Simon, Eagles and learned it was David Sanborn. What drew me to him was the fact that was the way his sound could be adapted to fit in a variety of music styles and his instantly recognizable sound.
Thanks for mentioning Earl Bostic, who, though his rhythm never quite seemed to escape from certain strictures (not unlike Coleman Hawkins), could play the hell out of the horn and always had lots of infectious fun. Very unique player.
Thx for this GREAT video, Jay! This one really made my day, just to dip in for 10 minutes and listen to some great alto players. Looking forward to the tenor, bari and soprano editions 😃
First of all, thank you for putting this together, getting all the archival footage, the energy of your presentation and your courage to play some of those riffs is all amazing. Whenever a ranking is offered, it will be "a priori" controversial, or a best-list, just the nature of the beast. I would just like to second the inclusion of Art Pepper, Lou Donaldson, and Eric Dolphy that others have suggested. Pepper's career has a huge gap in it for known reasons, and his recordings in '57-60 and then again '75-82, combine for a great opus. Donaldson hit some great highs, esp. "Blues Walk," and Dolphy's impressive work was cut short by his tragic death in Germany at young age of 36. Your list is great, and feel these 3 alto's deserve to be on it. "Out to Lunch" never fails to make the Top 10 of any "Greatest Jazz Album list" - thank you again, really enjoyed your post.
Beautiful presentation, There are so many great players to choose from, and from all styles and eras.I know that I've listed a lot of performers, and some should probably not be considered as the top 10, but hey, they sure do merit some exploring if you aren't familiar with them. Here are a few names you might want to consider: • Joseph Jarman of the Art Ensemble of Chicago • Marshall Allen with Sun Ra Arkestra • Marion Brown • Eric Dolphy • Albert Ayler (if you want to go way out there) • Jimmy Dorsey, classic swing player • Earl Bostic • Gigi Gryce • Eddie 'Cleanhead' Vinson • Earl Warren • Marshall Royal, particularly during his stint with Count Basie (1950-1970) • Oliver Nelson • Art Pepper • Lennie Niehaus, who did such great work as arranger and music director for Clint Eastwood's movie "Bird" • Louis Jordan, important link between jazz and rhythm and blues. • Al Gallodoro, a more obscure player but quite the virtuoso with fantastic dexterity in the altissimo register. • Candy Dulfer (we need at least one lady in the lot) • Richie Cole • Steve Coleman • Donald Harrison • Hank Crawford • Sonny Criss • Bud Shank • Lou Donaldson • Paquito D'Rivera, for that latin flavour. • Sonny Fortune • David Sanborn • Tim Berne • Bobby Watson • Kenny Garrett • Greg Osby • Maceo Parker • Herb Geller • Rudresh Mahanthappa • John Zorn • Arthur Blythe and Oliver Lake of the World Saxophone Quartet
Uncanny, it was around that year that Paul Desmond brought me to jazz. It was an EP with I'm In A Dancing Mood and The Trolley Song. That light lyricism, of course. I'm 81 and still worrying my wife about how many albums I need. Best regards. Lawrence
Interesting that we both found jazz via Paul around the same time. You are 81 and I turn 80 in a few days. I was living in the UK and very few people of our age were listening to Modern Jazz then.
Nice job !! I would add Maceo Parker to that list. Such a great player with amazing funk/groove influence. Seems like sometimes the traditional Jazz /bebob greats get all the attention and accolades
@@gerardoortizmedrano6373 It didn't last long however there is footage. Snader telescriptions 13003 has him soloing on Sophisticated Lady. After Willie left, Hilton Jefferson took over and then Hodges returned.
Bird is an absolute influence for every musician. My guitar teacher used to say: "immerse into the Charlie Parker music". Lee Kontz and Ornette are my faves along with Bird. Art Pepper used to have some nice chops too.
Great video Jay, it's always difficult to narrow the list down to 10. I'd have included Art Pepper but then it's difficult to know who to leave out in order to fit him in. Johnny Hodges is probably my favourite alto player as he had the most beautiful tone, but I hear what you say about Ornette Coleman. I saw him live a couple of times and he had a totally unique style and sound. He'd start off playing a recognisable tune and then go off at a tangent into a dimension all of his own, only to slip imperceptibly back into the real world to finish the song. Absolutely amazing!
Great list and all are worthy of mention for their playing on the Alto sax. I would have to add Eric Dolphy to that list and to me that is a no brainer for any serious jazz fan, in addition you should have Art Pepper for his considerable output on alto in the fifties and sixties. Another guy not as well known, but a great alto player none the less is Sonny Criss who had many fine recordings during his career.
Eric Dolphy should be on the list. For me there are only three Alto players, Bird, Orentte and Dolphy. Those are the three that influence me. ( But I am a guitarist)
Gigi Gryce is another outstanding altoist to add to the greatest list. I recommend the album 'When Farmer Met Gryce' with Art Farmer for fluent soloing. His style combined the bluesness of Charlie Parker ( or Eddie 'Cleanhead' Vinson) with the cool sound and thoughtful line development of Lee Konitz.
Benny Carter's "Live at Montreux 1977" was the first jazz album I genuinely, immediately loved - despite several failed attempts to *get* jazz while I was a beginner student. His solo on "In a Mellow Tone" is less solo, and more "extemporaneous composition". The fact that, a couple choruses later, he played a beautifully developed, melodic solo on trumpet is ... an insight into how a great musical mind can flow through different instruments, without the need for technical virtuosity. (Which, no doubt, he had on sax; but that was never the main thing, with him.)
Absolutely fabulous video, thank you Jay! So informative and your passion shines through. Wish I saw this video 30 years ago I may then have decided to dedicate my life to playing the saxophone professionally. Great work please keep it up.
By far, the absolute BEST list of the greatest alto players; and, I loved your technical assessment and justification of each…very insightful and spot on the mark. Bravo!!!
Hey Jay!! Big fan of your channel!! And this is definitely my favorite video you’ve posted so far!! Would’ve loved to see your spend some time with Art Pepper and Marshall Royal. Hope to see more videos with you discussing saxophone legends.👍🏽
Agree! Was looking for Art Pepper - Blues In. My goodness that’s too good - hard to have ‘em all of course. Awesome video! Watch this with my 9 year old who just started playing. He was locked in - this has inspired him (and me too).
i need teachers to stop telling me to put my umbrisher in a certain position or to stop lifting my fingers so high off of the keys. These masters of the instrument dont care, they are making the sax beautiful with their own positioning and most of them never had formal training. They just make the sax sound their hearts. Love it!
EXELENT VIDEO DUDE!!! I knew most of them👀 LOL Just few things: - An alto sax player that definitely has influenced a lot of players (most in the latin Jazz) is Paquito D’ Rivera. The start of his career in IRAKERE (Chucho Valdez orquesta) developed his chops like crazy!! His solo career is also amazing!! - An alto players that no body hears about that much but I thing was very good player for his time is Gigi Gryece. He played a lot with Clifford Brown (kind of got his articulation style). Again man!! What a fantastic video!! It game me more players to add to my transcription list🤟🏼 thanks!!
Gigi retired early, and basically went to live in a monastery or something along those lines. I remember being at a party in college, at a guy's house who wasn't really a jazz musician, although I can no longer even remember the guy or why I was at the house, and he played a single track. Heard Gigi blow a couple of choruses and had to find more about him. Unfortunately, there's not a lot of his recordings, so his influence is pretty tiny.
Nicolas Trujillo I love Paquito too! He was a soloist at the Bud Shank Jazz Festival. There were a lot of heavyweights there and all were blown away. Paquito was extremely kind and so full of sunshine / energy in his playing it was infectious.
You brought back memories from high school. My Saxophone teacher always beat us up about our fingering positions and movement. He used to say economy of movement, I don’t want to see your fingers move when you play. That clip from Parker WOW, hardly moved his fingers. Thanks for the memories.
Kenny Garrett definitely is one. He took a lot from Coltrane and put it on alto. He’s created a new modern alto sound that so many people have incorporated into their own playing. There are soooo many Kenny Garrett clones
I just found your videos and channel today and this is already probably the sixth video I've watched so far. I played alto in high school and sold my horn a few years after graduating since a friend borrowed my alto while I was playing baritone for marching season... and he dropped it. I've been thinking about getting a new one and playing again for a while now. After seeing your videos with the Jean Paul, I think I know what I'm getting. And watching this video, listening to these legends helped rekindle my desire to play more than ever. I have a feeling I'll be watching your videos a lot more often now. Thanks for the great content. I look forward to seeing more.
As always Jay, kudos on your very positive and conscientious work(s) of integrity, on-point thought and information. Moveover, your honesty and "make-it-plan" approach to your video teachings are to be applauded and deserves props!!! As to my two cents, if I may, I would like to add to your list the one and only Frank Morgan, my friend and mentor. Thank you! -sb
I LIKE THE FEELING YOU HAVE EXPRESSED IN SHOWING AND LISTENING TO THESE WONDERFUL AND ARTISTIC MUSICIANS; TO BE HONEST, I HAVE SHARED YOUR FEELINGS ALL THE WAY. THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS AND INSIGHTS.
Can't play a note or carry a tune, but loved this! Put in a wrd, though, for Boston's OTHER great alto playerr -- Charlie Mariano (who shows up in "On the Road," no less.
Your list is excellent .... I also loved to listen to Bud Shank, especially back in the 50's with Laurindo Almeida .... in the Brazilence LP's, Of course Art Pepper could be on anyone's list. John Park was also a wonderful soloist. We just lost Richie Cole who was heavily influence by Phil. Wonderful interpretations. Thanks.
I’m sure you’ll be inundated but I can’t help adding my two cents. Charles McPherson (an overlooked master), Gary Bartz, Eric Dolphy are additional favorites of mine. Of these three, Dolphy was the most original but no player seemed heavily influenced by him. Players who seemed on the verge; Sonny Red (Sylvester Kyner) and Bunkie Green (who quit the scene early for academia) and the instantly recognizable, Arthur Blythe.
Bunky Green, Sonny Stitt and Frank Morgan were all close friends starting from when they were youngsters in Milwaukee. Sonny's relatives owned a Jazz club there on the North side. Bunky is from Milwaukee, Sonny and Frank ended up there living with relatives for an extended period of time. Milwaukee had a great Jazz scene in the 40's, 50's and well into the 60's.
Lee Konitz is my favorite Precisely because of what you noticed. He always create something new. Some sort of bebop vocabulary without any bebop licks.
Hey my friend Jay at 3:25 of the video I have to stop and congratulate you on this find piece of work and edit. I am a video editor myself and I do it for living this is outstanding content for saxophone players and historians as well. Extremely well done my friend thank you for your saxophone productions!
@@bettersax Ne, your video skills and presentation skills are getting better and better. Much of the time I watch for that, as much as the sax content.
Great job, Jay but I would add Lou Donaldson and Earl Bostic to the list. Earl may not be someone most of your listeners or followers know about but they should. This was THE technical master of all time on alto sax and he could easily gliss up to a 3 octave jump ending on a precisely in-tune high C or E above the range of the alto. Lou Donaldson was and is a National Treasure and just recently put the horn down at 91 years old. Lou told me of an incredible event on 52nd Street where Earl Bostic and Charlie Parker were blowing on Cherokee together. Earl's mastery of the instrument is I believe still unchallenged and John Coltrane used to ask him a ton of questions about the saxophone when he worked with Earl's band. Another two of the most proficient and creative alto saxophonists were the great Frank Strozier and Charles McPherson. Sonny Criss and Eric Dolphy were also great alto players as were Ernie Henry and Gigi Gryce. One last name who was a contemporary of Hodges and Carter is the incredible Jimmy Dorsey who could play that saxophone in his sleep and used to pop out high G's like it was nothing in the middle of a line he'd be playing. Jimmy Dorsey also happened to be a favorite and an influence on Lester Young.
HOW ABOUT EARL BOSTIC? HE WAS A GREAT TECHNICIAN, EXTENDED THE RANGE OF THE ALTO BY OVER AN OCTAVE WITH AMAZING FACILITY, AND SOME OF HIS TUNES LIKE "UP THERE IN ORBIT" ARE JUST MIND BLOWING! YOUNG JOHN COLTRANE PLAYED IN HIS BAND AND DOUBTLESS LEARNED A LOT.
I have the utmost respect for this TH-cam saxophone contributor. Being originally from San Diego, Charles Macpherson is a notable omission of great alto players in this collection of alto sax greats.In the late 80s I remember hearing Macpherson was one of the players considered for the soundtrack to Bird. This is an extract of Wikipedia. Charles McPherson (born July 24, 1939)[1] is an American jazz alto saxophonist born in Joplin, Missouri, United States, and raised in Detroit, Michigan, who worked intermittently with Charles Mingus from 1960 to 1974, and as a performer Charles McPherson (born July 24, 1939)[1] is an American jazz alto saxophonist born in Joplin, Missouri, United States, and raised in Detroit, Michigan, who worked intermittently with Charles Mingus from 1960 to 1974, and as a performer leading his own groups.[1] McPherson also was commissioned to help record ensemble renditions of pieces from Charlie Parker, on the 1988 soundtrack for the film Bird.[1] I can’t think of a better endorsement than being asked to play on a movie soundtrack about bird. The late Ritchie Cole is another burnin bopper.
Absolutely! His sound was so unique and his solos were always so complex and bebop-ish while still embracing such elegant swing and juicy blues like tones. Truly one of a kind!
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Thanks so much, Jay Bird Really dug all the alto cats that we both admire and revere. Two that were not included on your list: Earl Bostic Oliver Nelson
Cannonball Adderley is my favorite. Complete command of the instrument, always expressive, always plays with a beautiful tone.
Mine too so much so that I wish he'd took longer solos than his
Brother.
Charlie Parker, hombre!
Jay its a great list and 10 isn't many but I would put sweet papa Lou Donaldson in instead of ornette Coleman maybe there isn't any room for the great Sonny Criss and perhaps I would throw Art Pepper in there replacing I don't know Paul Desmond maybe
Charlie Parker is who inspired me to start playing, I grew up in Camarillo and his song Relaxing in Camarillo has always been a fall back reminds there are people crazier than me
First time I heard Paul Desmond play on the radio hooked me to his sound and improvisation abilities. I still listen and marvel at his playing.
I saw the Dave Brubeck Quartet live at Northern Illinois University in 1965 when I graduated from high school and marveled at their cohesiveness. I ended up studying music there and it has become a great music program, especially for jazz players/singers. Paul Desmond could improvise long passages and always maintained an almost stork like stance :-)
I totally agree...Desmond was still an original and had impeccable taste. Tone master.
I’ll go with Paul Desmond. The very best.
That short segment of Desmond does not really show his incredible lyrical playing at his best - in fact that whole performance (I believe from a playboy club long ago) was not the best showcase of the entire quartet - much of the songs seemed rushed and the players just don't seem that relaxed.
@@x.y.8581 I saw Paul Desmond live on their anniversary tour. He was fantastic. Just a lyrical as always and his tone was great.
So many great players here and as always you presented it all so well. I thought you would have mentioned Art Pepper who’s tone and command was just so brilliant.
My personal favorite
Art of 'Straight Life'
@@YourTripleScorpio Yes, his later stuff was quite a bit different from what he was doing it the 1950's. I especially like stuff, I think, from his Living Legend (1975) album and later. Frank Morgan, who Pepper played with whie serving time in San Quentin prison, is another top alto guy.
Yes. Indeed!
When it comes to beautiful melodic lines, a great sound, being unique not only in bop, but in every style he plays, with a touch of humor thrown in, PHIL WOODS was second to none!
Eric Dolphy deserves a mention in there - his virtuosity, melodic and harmonic "out" development is beyond reproach. I remember buying "Out To Lunch" in High School, it giving me a massive headache and putting it away for a year, then playing it non-stop because it was just so good.
Dolphy has a god like alto tone
Agree, Dolphy deserves a spot.
The omission of Mr. Dolphy invalidates the list.
Dolphy, for me, defines bass clarinet.
DominusOminous and jazz flute. He was really the first to play the bass clarinet and flute in a hard bop setting
Cannonball is my favorite all time. I listened to all of them, but when I heard Cannonball for the first time, I knew he was my guy. The soul he put into every single note made him so much fun to listen to. He had the technical chops to play with all the other big cats, but every tune he played was filled with emotion where the other guys sometimes felt like they were going through the motions. He was underrated for his time, but now it seems like he gets the recognition he deserves among sax players I meet.
His solo on “Green Dolphin St.” is hands down one of the craziest solos I’ve ever heard. Truly unmatched
Two candidates for the "Part 2" - I'm sure you thought of these guys, but I can't fault any of your choices :) These guys belong in the top 10 too... I guess that means we go to 12.
* Eric Dolphy (I see from other comments that he has been mentioned a lot)
* Kenny Garrett - didn't see his name on ANY comments, which is sad. One of the best alto saxophonists of all time in my opinion, he has an instantly identifiable and distinctive sound and style.
Honorable mention, in case you are looking for names for the "top ten part 2..."
* Art Pepper - very influential, an interesting meld of hard bop and West Coast styles.
* Sonny Fortune - a unique voice, with unique tone and unique melodic thought
* Marshal Royal - one of the best lead alto players ever.
I immediately thought of Kenny Garrett, though I can see how he gets pushed out of a top ten by all the legends on this list.
Eric Dolby as an omission seems criminal, but I didn’t remember him until I saw it commented.
Yeah man I agree!
Oats and Kenny
See my comment above, omitting Dolphy and Garrett is puzzling - and Sonny Fortune another "sleeper." Royal was a great lead alto player - but with Johnny Hodges on the list I think Royal's absence is not as glaring.
Eric Dolphy and Kenny Garrett. 100% agree with you man
I started playing the Sax when I was 11 years old. I fell in love with the Sax at 12 years of age when my uncle gave me a Johnny Hodges compilation. His playing was and still is, extraordinarily good.
Here are mine:
Cannonball Adderley
Phil Woods
Charlie Parker
Sonny Stitt
Lee Konitz
Those are the people who influenced me the most
Desmond had the most identifiable tone and sound. In fact, only Acker Bilk and Coltrane have had an equally instantly identifiable timbre. Great educational service here! Cheers!
I don't fully agree also Ornette and at least Lee Konitz had such personal and instantly identifiable tone, but, to be honest I'd say the same at least for Bird and Hodges.
Phil Woods said “i never got Charlies horn. I mean i got his wife, and i stole his licks But not his horn”
Phil played a Gold plated Mk6, that Marcel Mule handpicked for him at the selmer factory in Paris. Later up until his death he played a custom Yamaha.
I’m happy Phil got mentioned - he was such a collosus and a humble soul.
Good one! I don't think Bird ever had a horn - at least not one that didn't make it into the pawn shop after a gig. Red Rodney in some interview said that Bird could have played a tomato can and made it sing good. On the Massey Hall record he's playing that plastic thing and it sounds like the best Selmer ever made. And yes, Phil was an awesome player.
Phil talks about playing Bird's Super 20 on a gig when he had hocked his own horn to buy groceries. Mingus walked in, saw it, and gave Phil the side-eye. He talks about it on a JazzWax interview. Presumably after he left Chan the horn stayed with Chan.
Hearing him on Just the way you are made me seek him out, so I'm glad he crossed over. What a sound! To me, there's something oddly Freudian about him switching from a Selmer to a Yamaha horn, as that probably has some purists fuming. This, however, from someone who hasn't yet played a Selmer.
I actually got an email from him. Not sure why but that was so cool. He said thanks from something I said.
@@robkunkel8833 I was honored to repair Phil's horns several times including his clarinet. He was super kind, and always gave me a little concert. It was amazing. :-)
These guys are all so good, so fantastic...but there is one...my god ...he plays his heart out on the alto, it's pure emotion...when he plays the blues you start crying...it's Art Pepper!
i agree with everthing you are puttin down Art Pepper is a GOAT
Art Pepper. Best of the Best. Or should I say, my favorite. No one played with more emotion. Superb.
ditto on Art Pepper "Come Rain or Shine"
Art Pepper is one sax player that I can listen to all day.
Sonny Stitt went on to be a great tenor player to stop people from saying he copied Charlie Parker. I loved his playing on both for sure.
Robin Habermehl, agreed! I even have a recording of Stitt on baritone!
I read somewhere that both Kenny Clarke and Miles Davis hear Stitt playing like that before they hear Parker.
Sonny Stitt definitely went out of his way to copy Charlie Parker! He sounds his best when he plays his own ideas though.
@@glennhenrich992 Could you please put this recording on TH-cam. I should really like to hear that.
@@tomscott1741 he never copied Parker. He played the same styl together with all the others.
Phil Woods' solo on Billy Joel's "Just the Way You Are" is absolutely incredible. Love it.
Its a classic forever.
I've always loved Charlie Parker and Paul Desmond. But my favorite is Sonny Criss. Especially on Crisscraft
Emilio Munguia also a big Sonny Criss fan here.
same!!! all his music is a lesson on articulation and expression!
I'm also a big fan of Criss...and that album you mention was my intro to him...I love it.
Fantastic player. Right up there.
In 20 years time Patrick Bartley will be on these lists.
It won't take nearly that long!
And Baptiste herbin
I’d say 10 or less. He is just amazing..
Each of these great musicians made a unique contribution. 2 others I would include are Oliver Nelson and Eric Dolphy ( although they played multiple instruments their alto playing was superb.)
Ever heard a musician whose style of play is so distinctive, so intricate, no one can clone it?
The rhythm, pulse, nuance, and emotion of Maceo Parker makes him one of the most ORIGINAL altoists of all time.
Definitely list worthy
Personally I would have Art Pepper in there. I always thought he was under appreciated. Can't argue with your top 10. Thanks, J.A.
I use to love his playing, but I hardly ever listen to him after reading just a little of his auto biography....he admitted to raping a woman when he was overseas in the UK in the military...
Yes Art are mising.
@@The_Ex_Boxing_Nerd What does that have to do with his music?
@@The_Ex_Boxing_Nerd I read that book many years ago. Still think the guy really sounded good.
But he was a weirdo, no doubt about it.
Very enjoyable and articulate presentation. I was a jazz DJ on public radio (KLCC) for quite a few years, and appreciate anyone who communicates their love of jazz. Gary Giddins comes to mind as another jazz ambassador whose enthusiasm is infectious. Keep up the great work.
paul's solo on Black Orpheus is amazing. so many phrases and themes that are fully developed and everything works so seamlessly
love that solo. first solo I transcribed in full
Paul Desmond. Totally original style. One of the few alto players not influenced by sound or hard bop style of Bird. Phrasing, sound, use of time signatures. And he came into his own as a player even more after his time with Brubeck. His early 60's albums with Jim Hall are required listening. Or just pour a scotch or martini and enjoy.
What an amazing video!!
This is not any more "internet saxophone content", this is actual education right here.
Appreciate you so much for this video!!
As a saxophone teacher, I find myself using your videos more and more to enrich my students. This is a video that I will surely share with them.
Thanks. That’s what I was aiming for.
Nice going Jay. That’s a great compilation of sax masters.
For me Johnny Hodges stands out and has always been my favourite. His blue blue bends and vibrato makes his sax sound so like the human voice, I get the shivers whenever I listen to him.
I’m pretty sure he played on a tenor reed and that’s why he could bend so low
Some of my favorite alto players, currently:
-Vincent Herring
-David "Fathead" Newman
-Charles McPherson
-Richie Cole
-Kenny Garrett
Loved Charles McPherson's playing.
Check out Baptiste Herbin.
Fathead Newman was more of a Tenor Player wasnt he?
@@davidgrant6263 He also played tenor, but whenever he records with alto, it's really stellar
I guess i never knew him as a alto player just as Ray Charles' Tenor man. But, im sure he was a Great Alto player as well.
Jay, I don't even play the Saxophone (love music though) but I love your videos man. The quality of editing, content and general enjoyment in music and in putting out good education on youtube and not some copy paste stuff that we see around is enough to make me binge watched a lot of your videos. Thank you.
Definitely 💯
The Charlie Parker Eb palm key for D is everything!! Thanks Jay.
All of the legends along with myself in this list are looking at this saxophone channel with confidence and pride, keep up the great videos Mr Jay
Thank you Jay. A great, if not simple, idea to introduce a sort of 'Best of Sax players' into your series. The musicians themselves are more significant than the machines they are playing through, and of course a choice of all things is, or should be, personal. What I also appreciated was your astute observations of the players in doing what they did so naturally.
On the only occasion when I witnessed Sonny Stitt live (in the late 1970s), I was mesmerised how little his fingers seemed to move; I thought I too should places my fingers nearer the keys. Lesson learnt!
My high school Saxophone teacher bought Sonny Stitts Alto a few years after that 1965 video. He still has the bill of sale which Sonny Stitt signed. I sent him that video and he told me it probably is. He also said he tried that Otto Link mpc!
Hey Jay I just wanted to say that you are the reason I decided to play saxophone :)
🤘
Me too
He must like hearing that. I would. Go get ‘em ... and bring your horn to the Virgin Islands if you visit someday.
That is a terrible reason ... won’t play long
Same
Jackie McLean. The Dynasty album knocks me out every time I listen. All are so great. Amazing that so much genius is borne from so much adversity and pain.
Eric Dolphy-
Nelson Rangell
Jay, this is fantastic, one of the best yet. I’d love you to do more of this, perhaps a series where you dwell a bit longer on each player. Absolutely loved it. Thanks.
TH-cam is so full of "Top 10" lists of every kind, they get old quick, but this is the best I've ever seen: not trying to foster competition, full of real insight, really educational in the best sense, and driven by an articulate passion. Thanks, Jay.
Started playing when i was 11, lost the drive to get better because of my director in high school, now i’m back it. You’re an amazing player, and your tone is so good. i love your channel, keep it up💛
Me too. No person drove me away, just high school, women, boats and adventure. Now, I’m back to the horn with a new passion ...well, all the passion I can muster aided by cool videos. I never had teacher that inspired me like TH-cam videos do ... especially this guy with the black hat on this video.
Your video on the 10 greatest tenor saxophonists is great because you also talk about the struggles of those players under the harsh racism of the US - it’s great to see that because most people either don’t know or don’t care! I really appreciate your honesty and your own genuine appreciation of these iconic players! You’re also a great player in your own right!
I think one of the most overlooked alto saxophone players is Gigi Gryce, would be nice to see him on your next list, the man deserves some justice
I agree with you. Gryce is one of my favourites. Great fluent altoist. Bluesy (like Eddie 'Cleanhead' Vincent) with the cool sound and thoughtful line development of Lee Konitz.
Pacquito D'Rivera is an awesome Alto & Clarinet Artist.
Ray Charles blew a mean Alto as well.
In the early 1980's, it was David Sanborn that turned me on to the alto saxophone. Something new to learn very day.
Really enjoyed this. I liked how you paused the recording and drew our attention to different things and compared/contrasted the different musicians. I would love more breakdowns like that. I struggle sometimes when I'm listening because I don't always know what I'm listening for.
For your part 2 please add the following sax bbn players Lou donaldson. Art pepper. Ace Cannon .I give you a big shout out cause I return to M playing Alto n your Helping me alot
Everyone has all time favorite sax players ! This is Jay’s opinion and I truly appreciate it
Cannonball's "Work Song" (live on his "Nippon Soul" album) is a great example of musical storytelling. And it swings.
listen cannons rumplestilskin by joe zavinul
7:54 God, that bend into the high note at the start of the head gets me every time.
Rest In Peace Johnny Hodges 🙏🏾🎷
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Coltrane
Whatever the list, I really like these TH-cams where you tell us what you're hearing or seeing - details of style, technique etc. Really useful without lining up yet another lick to be learned in "all 12 keys" which noone has the time to do!
A big influence for me was Charlie Mariano, who moved from "classic" modern jazz to world music. He was one of the first jazz musicians playing with musicians from india and then from all over the world. He had a very unique instantly recognizable soulful tone. Charlie moved to germany in the early seventies, maybe that´s why his musical development and his huge influence on crossover/world music ís not so well known in america. Regards from Berlin and thanks for the inspiration, Raffael
Sounds like he's right up my alley. Will check him out. Thanks !
@@crieverytim Charlie Mariano is excellent!! Make sure you do that!
@@dylangatenby9928 I since have. Indeed he is!
And Thanks parageet!
@@dylangatenby9928 i was actually familiar w his work already via Pork Pie and Black Saint /Sinner Lady. Always loved the playing on that album but didn't know him by name. To be fair, I was first acquainted with it well before the internet was really a thing! Great to connect those dots and to explore his later work. Such a brilliant tone 👍
I thought he sounded like a Bird clone as I recall first hearing him many years ago with Shelly Manne ,Stu Williamson,et al on an early Contemporary or pac Jazz lp.@@a.nobodys.nobody
Paul Desmond’s tone is a dry martini on a warm spring day, in the arms of Audrey Hepburn. I’m just in awe whenever I hear a single note from the guy.
I love this! What a picture
What a lovely image. You could be a poet. 🤗
@@charlavenant3857 I am, actually. ☺
I really love Ornette Coleman, I don't think he's appreciated enough, his style of playing is extremely distinct and instantly recognizable. Also Sadness is one of my favorite compositions from him!
I don't like much of the later "free" stuff he did, but I think that a lot of the melodies he wrote, especially with his early quartets, were very catchy. Songs like Una Muy Bonita, Lonely Woman, Focus on Sanity, Broadway Blues and others brought a fresh approach to jazz.
I feel ya in him
He plays in heavy
Key signature s
Most of the time
@@esl.mooresongs7993 Agree. Have the "Focus on Sanity" album. I liked how he had a theme that allowed me come along on his musical journey without getting lost. Especially so on Focus on Sanity and Lonely Woman.
Tru Blu 'Lonely Woman.'
I was ready to comment here with "Phil Woods" but you didn't disappoint. Now for a part 2...
- Hank Crawford
- David Sanborn (hate me all you want, but he's what I think of 80's sax)
Love both of those choices, Derrick! Hank's Whispering Grass song gives me good chills! And of course David Sanborn! Ive learned several of his solos!
Sadao Watanabe!
@@rickmailloux301 Not a major influence.
Arthur Blythe...
Yeah Totally Derrick, If we are talking Alto sax Influence Sanborn is a must. He may not be mainstream Jazz but his sound virtually defines Smooth Jazz and Alto for the last few decades.
I was dancing as one of the performers on the Larry Kane Show in Houston Texas in ~1968 when CannonBall Atterly performed Live. While most artists on that show pantamined to the recorded music tht played over the loudspeakers, Cannonball played live on a riser, that my partner and I were right next to. However, Cannonball was playing a totally different song, in a true jazz fashion, that interfaced, with his song being plaid over the speakers. We said heck lets dance to him and we did. It was amazing. Jimmy Spearow, Ph.D.
I think Cannonball was playing a jazz syncopation to his song that was being broadcast over the loudspeakers. It made danicing east coast swing right beside him even more fun. Thanks for your informative Sax videos. thinking about trying a metal mouthpiece for my old Conn M10 Tenor. Lots of issues to consider.
This is a beautiful production. Thank you for educating us and for putting in the time to make it so enjoyable. I loved seeing you passion shine through in this.
I'd like to add Bud Shank, Kim Richmond and Med Flory. I wish I could see more of that King horn Jay - it looks familiar. I once lacquered just the brass and left the silver neck without lacquer at a customer's request. Thank you for the memories. I was so fortunate to repair for some greats. The great players were the ones who were also humble. You need to be humble to learn and they never stopped learning. I miss so many of them now.
Thanks for this! I thought "Whoa, 19 minutes. Well, I can click through." Every minute was packed with info and yumminess.. Thanks for bringing so much knowledge to this!
James Moody seems to be sneaking into my consciousness recently.
Ooh James Moody is a expectational Alto & flute player. I first 👀 him with Dizzy quintet on the BBC jazz 625. His performance was phenomenal & that's what's up!!!
Out of all saxophonists, Sherman Irby is my idol. Perfect sound, very good, yet such simple improvisation. He makes a lot out of a little, and that's why I love watching him so much
This video is so good, it will be required viewing for my students. Thanks so much for the analysis on each one. My thoughts on a Part 2: Art Pepper, Frank Morgan, (maybe considered a Bird clone but oh those ideas and the tone I'd like to emulate), Earl Bostic, and the "elephant in the room" David Sanborn. To me, Sanborn changed Alto style and tone and kept the saxophone in popular music for decades. He told me in a chat after a show that "I tried to sound like Phil Woods but ended up sounding like me". Again, great, great video. You know that after part 2 your viewers are going to be clamoring for a series on Tenor players. Thanks Jay.
Frank Zona I agree. My oldest sister introduced me to jazz with Grover Washington Jr. when I was about 7. Through the pop and rock records I began listening to heard this bright emotional tone of a saxophone on a bunch of records. James Taylor, Carly Simon, Eagles and learned it was David Sanborn. What drew me to him was the fact that was the way his sound could be adapted to fit in a variety of music styles and his instantly recognizable sound.
Thanks for mentioning Earl Bostic, who, though his rhythm never quite seemed to escape from certain strictures (not unlike Coleman Hawkins), could play the hell out of the horn and always had lots of infectious fun. Very unique player.
I love Earl Bostic’s melodic work and incredible altissimo work. Also Brent Jensen carrying on from Paul Desmonds style.
Thx for this GREAT video, Jay! This one really made my day, just to dip in for 10 minutes and listen to some great alto players. Looking forward to the tenor, bari and soprano editions 😃
First of all, thank you for putting this together, getting all the archival footage, the energy of your presentation and your courage to play some of those riffs is all amazing. Whenever a ranking is offered, it will be "a priori" controversial, or a best-list, just the nature of the beast. I would just like to second the inclusion of Art Pepper, Lou Donaldson, and Eric Dolphy that others have suggested. Pepper's career has a huge gap in it for known reasons, and his recordings in '57-60 and then again '75-82, combine for a great opus. Donaldson hit some great highs, esp. "Blues Walk," and Dolphy's impressive work was cut short by his tragic death in Germany at young age of 36. Your list is great, and feel these 3 alto's deserve to be on it. "Out to Lunch" never fails to make the Top 10 of any "Greatest Jazz Album list" - thank you again, really enjoyed your post.
Beautiful presentation,
There are so many great players to choose from, and from all styles and eras.I know that I've listed a lot of performers, and some should probably not be considered as the top 10, but hey, they sure do merit some exploring if you aren't familiar with them. Here are a few names you might want to consider:
• Joseph Jarman of the Art Ensemble of Chicago
• Marshall Allen with Sun Ra Arkestra
• Marion Brown
• Eric Dolphy
• Albert Ayler (if you want to go way out there)
• Jimmy Dorsey, classic swing player
• Earl Bostic
• Gigi Gryce
• Eddie 'Cleanhead' Vinson
• Earl Warren
• Marshall Royal, particularly during his stint with Count Basie (1950-1970)
• Oliver Nelson
• Art Pepper
• Lennie Niehaus, who did such great work as arranger and music director for Clint Eastwood's movie "Bird"
• Louis Jordan, important link between jazz and rhythm and blues.
• Al Gallodoro, a more obscure player but quite the virtuoso with fantastic dexterity in the altissimo register.
• Candy Dulfer (we need at least one lady in the lot)
• Richie Cole
• Steve Coleman
• Donald Harrison
• Hank Crawford
• Sonny Criss
• Bud Shank
• Lou Donaldson
• Paquito D'Rivera, for that latin flavour.
• Sonny Fortune
• David Sanborn
• Tim Berne
• Bobby Watson
• Kenny Garrett
• Greg Osby
• Maceo Parker
• Herb Geller
• Rudresh Mahanthappa
• John Zorn
• Arthur Blythe and Oliver Lake of the World Saxophone Quartet
I practiced saxophone with Rudresh Mahanthappa and I'm happy to see him getting the recognition on your list!
Paul Desmond was the guy who introduced me to jazz in 1959. Plain song on Jazz Impressions of the USA blew my mind and there was no turning back.
Uncanny, it was around that year that Paul Desmond brought me to jazz. It was an EP with I'm In A Dancing Mood and The Trolley Song. That light lyricism, of course. I'm 81 and still worrying my wife about how many albums I need. Best regards. Lawrence
Interesting that we both found jazz via Paul around the same time. You are 81 and I turn 80 in a few days. I was living in the UK and very few people of our age were listening to Modern Jazz then.
In a dancing mood is another favourite track of mine.
Nice job !! I would add Maceo Parker to that list. Such a great player with amazing funk/groove influence. Seems like sometimes the traditional Jazz /bebob greats get all the attention and accolades
They definitely do!
Willie Smith was an extraordinary alto player unjust forgotten, great recordings with Jimmie Luncenford and Harry James bands and with JATP troupe
Indeed. He also joined Ellington's band for a short while. The veterans there were in shock, bacause he called rehearsals all the time.
@@ABrandsma yeah good point!!
in the 50's Willie Smith was member of Duke' band replacing Johnny Hodges for a short time.
@@gerardoortizmedrano6373 It didn't last long however there is footage. Snader telescriptions 13003 has him soloing on Sophisticated Lady. After Willie left, Hilton Jefferson took over and then Hodges returned.
@@ABrandsma wow!! I did'n know that there was a vídeo clip of Willie Smith with Duke's band !! What a good point !! Thanks for sharing !!
yes, you are right
Richie Cole is someone I used to listen to a lot.
Bird is an absolute influence for every musician. My guitar teacher used to say: "immerse into the Charlie Parker music". Lee Kontz and Ornette are my faves along with Bird. Art Pepper used to have some nice chops too.
Great video Jay, it's always difficult to narrow the list down to 10. I'd have included Art Pepper but then it's difficult to know who to leave out in order to fit him in. Johnny Hodges is probably my favourite alto player as he had the most beautiful tone, but I hear what you say about Ornette Coleman. I saw him live a couple of times and he had a totally unique style and sound. He'd start off playing a recognisable tune and then go off at a tangent into a dimension all of his own, only to slip imperceptibly back into the real world to finish the song. Absolutely amazing!
Yes, Art Pepper is missing in the top ten of the altoists. He was a great tenor and clarinet player too.
Great list and all are worthy of mention for their playing on the Alto sax. I would have to add Eric Dolphy to that list and to me that is a no brainer for any serious jazz fan, in addition you should have Art Pepper for his considerable output on alto in the fifties and sixties. Another guy not as well known, but a great alto player none the less is Sonny Criss who had many fine recordings during his career.
I think others not listed to consider Eric Dolphy, David Sanborn, Kenny Garrett, Art Pepper, & Maceo Parker
Definitely Eric Dolphin. Definitely
David Sanborn.... then I think Hank Crawford...
Eric Dolphy should be on the list. For me there are only three Alto players, Bird, Orentte and Dolphy. Those are the three that influence me. ( But I am a guitarist)
Glad you included Jackie McLean too.
Gigi Gryce is another outstanding altoist to add to the greatest list. I recommend the album 'When Farmer Met Gryce' with Art Farmer for fluent soloing. His style combined the bluesness of Charlie Parker ( or Eddie 'Cleanhead' Vinson) with the cool sound and thoughtful line development of Lee Konitz.
Benny Carter's "Live at Montreux 1977" was the first jazz album I genuinely, immediately loved - despite several failed attempts to *get* jazz while I was a beginner student. His solo on "In a Mellow Tone" is less solo, and more "extemporaneous composition". The fact that, a couple choruses later, he played a beautifully developed, melodic solo on trumpet is ... an insight into how a great musical mind can flow through different instruments, without the need for technical virtuosity. (Which, no doubt, he had on sax; but that was never the main thing, with him.)
Played with Jackie and Phil while I was in my high school jazz band!
Absolutely fabulous video, thank you Jay! So informative and your passion shines through. Wish I saw this video 30 years ago I may then have decided to dedicate my life to playing the saxophone professionally. Great work please keep it up.
By far, the absolute BEST list of the greatest alto players; and, I loved your technical assessment and justification of each…very insightful and spot on the mark. Bravo!!!
Jay... No Art Pepper?? Come on man. Should be in there. Got to give the west coast some love.
This list is a joke...
@@Rickriquinho how
@gipstetz surely Paul Desmond is a great example of the West Coast movement?
Yeh, Art Peper one of my all time favorites!
@@owendallsotomayor1741 Art Pepper is the guy I thought of after watching the video
Saw this in passing and took a look just to see if Johnny Hodges got a mention. Now I'm satisfied, I might check out some more of the channel!
Hey Jay!! Big fan of your channel!! And this is definitely my favorite video you’ve posted so far!! Would’ve loved to see your spend some time with Art Pepper and Marshall Royal. Hope to see more videos with you discussing saxophone legends.👍🏽
Agree! Was looking for Art Pepper - Blues In. My goodness that’s too good - hard to have ‘em all of course. Awesome video! Watch this with my 9 year old who just started playing. He was locked in - this has inspired him (and me too).
i need teachers to stop telling me to put my umbrisher in a certain position or to stop lifting my fingers so high off of the keys. These masters of the instrument dont care, they are making the sax beautiful with their own positioning and most of them never had formal training. They just make the sax sound their hearts. Love it!
EXELENT VIDEO DUDE!!! I knew most of them👀 LOL
Just few things:
- An alto sax player that definitely has influenced a lot of players (most in the latin Jazz) is Paquito D’ Rivera. The start of his career in IRAKERE (Chucho Valdez orquesta) developed his chops like crazy!! His solo career is also amazing!!
- An alto players that no body hears about that much but I thing was very good player for his time is Gigi Gryece. He played a lot with Clifford Brown (kind of got his articulation style).
Again man!! What a fantastic video!! It game me more players to add to my transcription list🤟🏼 thanks!!
Love Paquito
Gigi retired early, and basically went to live in a monastery or something along those lines. I remember being at a party in college, at a guy's house who wasn't really a jazz musician, although I can no longer even remember the guy or why I was at the house, and he played a single track. Heard Gigi blow a couple of choruses and had to find more about him. Unfortunately, there's not a lot of his recordings, so his influence is pretty tiny.
SRC I know his influence is kind of tiny. I just mentioned because his is one of my personal favorites!
Nicolas Trujillo I love Paquito too! He was a soloist at the Bud Shank Jazz Festival. There were a lot of heavyweights there and all were blown away. Paquito was extremely kind and so full of sunshine / energy in his playing it was infectious.
You brought back memories from high school. My Saxophone teacher always beat us up about our fingering positions and movement. He used to say economy of movement, I don’t want to see your fingers move when you play. That clip from Parker WOW, hardly moved his fingers. Thanks for the memories.
Kenny Garrett definitely is one. He took a lot from Coltrane and put it on alto. He’s created a new modern alto sound that so many people have incorporated into their own playing. There are soooo many Kenny Garrett clones
One of my favorites
I just found your videos and channel today and this is already probably the sixth video I've watched so far. I played alto in high school and sold my horn a few years after graduating since a friend borrowed my alto while I was playing baritone for marching season... and he dropped it. I've been thinking about getting a new one and playing again for a while now. After seeing your videos with the Jean Paul, I think I know what I'm getting. And watching this video, listening to these legends helped rekindle my desire to play more than ever. I have a feeling I'll be watching your videos a lot more often now. Thanks for the great content. I look forward to seeing more.
As always Jay, kudos on your very positive and conscientious work(s) of integrity, on-point thought and information. Moveover, your honesty and "make-it-plan" approach to your video teachings are to be applauded and deserves props!!! As to my two cents, if I may, I would like to add to your list the one and only Frank Morgan, my friend and mentor. Thank you! -sb
I LIKE THE FEELING YOU HAVE EXPRESSED IN SHOWING AND LISTENING TO THESE WONDERFUL AND ARTISTIC MUSICIANS; TO BE HONEST, I HAVE SHARED YOUR FEELINGS ALL THE WAY.
THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR THOUGHTS AND INSIGHTS.
Can't play a note or carry a tune, but loved this! Put in a wrd, though, for Boston's OTHER great alto playerr -- Charlie Mariano (who shows up in "On the Road," no less.
1.Bird
2.Phil Woods
3.Cannonball Adderley
4.Sonny Stitt
5.Paul Desmond
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Thank you Jay, in this great introduction to alto sax history. Very interesting and I got a lot of new knowledge from it.
Your list is excellent .... I also loved to listen to Bud Shank, especially back in the 50's with Laurindo Almeida .... in the Brazilence LP's, Of course Art Pepper could be on anyone's list. John Park was also a wonderful soloist. We just lost Richie Cole who was heavily influence by Phil. Wonderful interpretations. Thanks.
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I’m sure you’ll be inundated but I can’t help adding my two cents. Charles McPherson (an overlooked master), Gary Bartz, Eric Dolphy are additional favorites of mine. Of these three, Dolphy was the most original but no player seemed heavily influenced by him. Players who seemed on the verge; Sonny Red (Sylvester Kyner) and Bunkie Green (who quit the scene early for academia) and the instantly recognizable, Arthur Blythe.
Bunky Green, Sonny Stitt and Frank Morgan were all close friends starting from when they were youngsters in Milwaukee. Sonny's relatives owned a Jazz club there on the North side. Bunky is from Milwaukee, Sonny and Frank ended up there living with relatives for an extended period of time. Milwaukee had a great Jazz scene in the 40's, 50's and well into the 60's.
Lee Konitz is my favorite Precisely because of what you noticed. He always create something new. Some sort of bebop vocabulary without any bebop licks.
Hey my friend Jay at 3:25 of the video I have to stop and congratulate you on this find piece of work and edit. I am a video editor myself and I do it for living this is outstanding content for saxophone players and historians as well. Extremely well done my friend thank you for your saxophone productions!
Thanks so much. I spent a lot of hours on this but I wanted to make it worthy of the musicians. Thanks for noticing.
@@bettersax Ne, your video skills and presentation skills are getting better and better. Much of the time I watch for that, as much as the sax content.
Agreed! Content and aditing are simply great. Jay is the best.
Is video editing really as hard as it seems? I’m so bad at learning that. I’d rather play sax. 😊☮️
Thanks, Jay. But how 'bout Richie Cole? So accurate and energized and merry.
Stitt was one of my all-time favourites too along with Cannonball and Phil Woods.
Thanks for adding Sonny Stitt to your list.
Great job, Jay but I would add Lou Donaldson and Earl Bostic to the list. Earl may not be someone most of your listeners or followers know about but they should. This was THE technical master of all time on alto sax and he could easily gliss up to a 3 octave jump ending on a precisely in-tune high C or E above the range of the alto. Lou Donaldson was and is a National Treasure and just recently put the horn down
at 91 years old. Lou told me of an incredible event on 52nd Street where Earl Bostic and Charlie Parker
were blowing on Cherokee together. Earl's mastery of the instrument is I believe still unchallenged and John Coltrane used to ask him a ton of questions about the saxophone when he worked with Earl's band.
Another two of the most proficient and creative alto saxophonists were the great Frank Strozier and Charles McPherson. Sonny Criss and Eric Dolphy were also great alto players as were Ernie Henry and Gigi Gryce. One last name who was a contemporary of Hodges and Carter is the incredible Jimmy Dorsey who could play that saxophone in his sleep and used to pop out high G's like it was nothing in
the middle of a line he'd be playing. Jimmy Dorsey also happened to be a favorite and an influence on Lester Young.
The other nine are fantastic. But Bird was a strange, scintillating , mysterious revolutionary and a magician. He’s in a separate category.
HOW ABOUT EARL BOSTIC? HE WAS A GREAT TECHNICIAN, EXTENDED THE RANGE OF THE ALTO BY OVER AN OCTAVE WITH AMAZING FACILITY, AND SOME OF HIS TUNES LIKE "UP THERE IN ORBIT" ARE JUST MIND BLOWING! YOUNG JOHN COLTRANE PLAYED IN HIS BAND AND DOUBTLESS LEARNED A LOT.
Lou Donaldson said Bostic was in a class by himself. Nobody (including Charlie Parker) could outplay him.
jimmy lyons, marshall allen, roscoe mitchell, anthony braxton, sonnt stitt
Wunderbar! Danke! My favourite: Paul Desmond
I have the utmost respect for this TH-cam saxophone contributor. Being originally from San Diego, Charles Macpherson is a notable omission of great alto players in this collection of alto sax greats.In the late 80s I remember hearing Macpherson was one of the players considered for the soundtrack to Bird.
This is an extract of Wikipedia.
Charles McPherson (born July 24, 1939)[1] is an American jazz alto saxophonist born in Joplin, Missouri, United States, and raised in Detroit, Michigan, who worked intermittently with Charles Mingus from 1960 to 1974, and as a performer Charles McPherson (born July 24, 1939)[1] is an American jazz alto saxophonist born in Joplin, Missouri, United States, and raised in Detroit, Michigan, who worked intermittently with Charles Mingus from 1960 to 1974, and as a performer leading his own groups.[1]
McPherson also was commissioned to help record ensemble renditions of pieces from Charlie Parker, on the 1988 soundtrack for the film Bird.[1] I can’t think of a better endorsement than being asked to play on a movie soundtrack about bird. The late Ritchie Cole is another burnin bopper.
Adderley is my number one... The solos he made in "Something else" are something else!
Absolutely! His sound was so unique and his solos were always so complex and bebop-ish while still embracing such elegant swing and juicy blues like tones. Truly one of a kind!
Thanks so much, Jay Bird
Really dug all the alto cats that we both admire and revere.
Two that were not included on your list:
Earl Bostic
Oliver Nelson