There is a joke I always tell my students: If you want a classical musician to stop playing, take away his scores. If you want a jazz musician to stop playing, give him scores. thank you so much for sharing!
"Are you telling me jazz musicians pay for sheet music that isn't even finished?" me, a jazz musician: "No! God no. Of course not. We don't *pay* for it."
There's great irony with 1:43. Chopin, Beethoven, Schumann, all of the 'great pianists' were also great improvisers. Chopin's improvisations were mindblowingly complicated. This is a skill nearly completely lost to modern pianists. Even I (outside of jazz), don't have much interest in improvising an entire classical style work.
Yup :)) it stems back even further (and even more impressively) into the baroque era, where it wasn’t uncommon for the best to improvise fugues which is ridiculously hard (most people these days can’t even write a fugue given all the time in the world)! This is more of a fun video than a full history lesson but I hope in the future i can cover a lot of different things and bring up this kind of stuff too :))
I think music has become a lot more complex and specialised. Back in those days I guess most pianists were composers and vice versa, whereas nowadays most pianist stick to piano. Pianists also have a huge database of great pieces to perform thanks to all the great composers who came before us
@@sabinhong0307 meh. Complexity is just a two sided coin that never stops spinning. Fugues are still the highest complexity of art and no one makes those anymore. Also "great composers that made great pieces" is low quality thinking. It idolizes normal people that had real issues and imperfections just like everyone else.
I think you have to differenciate between a pianist/interpreter/performer and a composer. A pianist isn’t nessecarily a composer (and vice versa). Nowadays, compared to the times of Beethoven or Chopin, there is a much greater importance of the performance/interpretation of a piece as its own, complex art. Still, many pianists I know do compose or improvise, and to a certain extend you do learn basic theory for that in music school as well.
it's only my second year learning how to perform jazz and we literally never follow the sheet music. we literally use it for the base but we change EVERYTHING 😭
@@alanyue3714 " “I remember guys would look at his music and say: ‘We can’t play this’, but by the end of the rehearsal everybody was playing it anyway.” SONNY ROLLINS on Thelonious Monk...
Omg bro I laughed so hard when you were handed Take Five, because as a classical musician it was the first Jazz piece I was ever handed by my teacher, and I had the literal same reaction to the 5/4 time signature as you did and my teacher was like "Oh! it's so easy!" and I was like: "Bruh. I've been a classical pianists for 6 years wtf is this-"
@@novamusic5134 actually i lied a bit. my friend who was the drummer wrote by hand the score for drums, the basic rythm. i wrote the general score and my teacher would then transcribe the clarinet and violin part from my general score separately so my colleagues would have only their specific part. it was some sort of orchestration from the piano score for take five, it was a great deal for me at the time because i learned to write a score just like you write one in sibelius/musescore, having equal lenght measures, each time from each instrument wrote down one beneith the other and so on. even the barlines were drawn using a ruler so each bar would be perfect lol. now i it's easier to just use musescore but yeah, for a 16-17 yo guy who played only classical and some sort of pop music, i was really happy and considered kinda bold
imho handing a jazz score to a musician to get him to jazz is bad teaching. If you want to get the student to jazz you should make him listen to the thing before playing it. Of course when you're playing in an ensemble and in many other situations you will have to play jazz tunes without hearing them before but teaching tradition in jazz should always start by listening. If you just hand out the sheet music to the people, you're not teaching the jazz tradition but an overly simplified and soulless version of what anyone would actually play
Many years ago, I sponsored a week-long jazz mini-course at my school. (I played drums.) One of the students involved was a professional classical pianist, far and away the most accomplished musician of the bunch. She just could not improvise. A senior who was the project's musical director-now a three-time Grammy-nominated instrumentalist, songwriter, and producer-ended up writing charts for her solos, which she played beautifully. They sounded completely improvised, but could not have been less so.
i find this so interesting how some beginners are essentially more 'skilled' at improvising than classically trained musicians just because they don't know how many 'rules' they are breaking by just playing whatever they want. they play what they feel like playing which is great. but both skills are really important.
@@Ace-dv5ce yes that is true. The hard thing about it is, that Coltrain is constantly modulating in every second bare. The piece is also written at a very high tempo, which makes it even harder, because you have think very quickly. In fact, even the pianist Tommy Flanegan who played on the original recording, didn’t managed to improvise over it, but Coltrane still decidet to leave it on the record.
I do not agree with this recommendation. I would recommend beginners start with “Impressions” or another tune with minimal changes. “Giant Steps” has some awkward changes that are not intuitive for improvising.
@@NightOfCrystals that was a joke. The joke is that it is so hard to improve over and that it isn’t good for beginners at all. It is like saying, that Liszt is good for beginners.
This reminds me of when I was 13 and my music teacher (who was a jazz musician and arranger) and he gave me this piece to play (Monk's 'Round midnight). So I played it like it was a classical piece. He responded - well you site read it ok, but it doesn't go like that! This is jazz. He played it (brilliantly) and I was hooked on Jazz.
True though... It's like you learn different scales, modes and then altered chords and substitute them here and there and and then after all that: forget all the rules and improvise.
1:37 Literally what I told to my piano teacher the first time he told me to improvise… as a classical music player I was really confused at that point. now I’m doing a blues improv
That was really funny. That is EXACTLY what went through my mind years ago. It was really hard for me to transition to Jazz after years of classical piano. AND, I have so much more learn. I have only scratched the surface.
I love jazz and classical, especially from the romantic and classical period, and jazz from the bebop through the late 60's. For pianists that know both, they are truly gifted. I started with classical but realized I was better with improv. and being able to re-harmonize chords, chord subs, progressions etc. seeing classical music would terrify me---so many notes! I envy those classical pianists who can site read and play all the notes perfectly in the first or second try.
Both are their own special skills! Glad to see someone who gets that, and you're absolutely correct...anyone who can bounce between classical and commercial/jazz even with moderate ease is a gifted unicorn!
My daddy played classical and jazz piano. I loved it! As kids when he started playing we came from ever we were to the living room to listen! One of my best childhood memories.
You'd probably like cruising through Charles Cornell's TH-cam channel, especially the ones where he begins to examine and explain the differences between playing jazz and classical music. Both of you are amazing musicians! And happy new year to you with excellent health & great success!
Oof. I feel the pain bro. I tried learning how to play jazz and the sheets just make little to no sense. I understand that they do sound great if played properly, but how am I supposed to focus on 4 things at a time while reading and playing weird gibberish-looking notes!? Improvising just makes it worse, having to make up music while playing other music, along with the gibberish gives me headaches. I've been getting better at it though, but some sheets still hurt my brain. Great video btw.
It's very rare for jazz musicians to use sheets at all, most of us learn reportoire by ear. This might sound a bit foreign but a good way to practice jazz is to just try and play a fitting melody while listening to the tune you're practicing and getting a good feel for what notes work and what notes don't.
Jazz Pianist here. I believe human cannot focus on 4 things at a time, and can't even do 2. The reason we can play piano in the first place is not because we can think about multiple things in the same time, it's rather because we learnt to use muscle memory to off load our thoughts, therefore, we can treat multiple things as one thing, or even nothing. The main challenge for classical musician to play Jazz is that the muscle memory they relied on didn't train to recall different memory spontaneously. It's not true that we focus on multiple things at the same time. We learnt to play different component like chord shapes, Bass lines, melodic lines, scales, arpeggio as part of the muscle memory. So when we read chord charts they trigger our brain to recall the appropriate muscle memories for the chords. If without chord charts, we just go straight into the muscle memory without the triggering part. Both can combine a little conscious decision to make it more spontaneous. The more components we learn, the more option we get. The more option we get, the easier we can play them, because it'll feel like we have more safety net to fall into. Many Jazz musician often expressed " feels like playing anything would sound right".
@@Kingstonlomusic It feels a lot like relearning how to play the piano a little. But with prior experience you get me? Kind of like carnival games that are "based off skill". You get a little handicap basically if you've already had experience, but the actual game is altered against your favor. For me, jazz as a classical musician is like rewiring your head with extra components and those components start off difficult to get the hang of, but eventually when it does work right, is great. I have to admit, sometimes it gets oddly addicting to mix some kind of jazz into compositions, even if it is for a tiny bit.
Please make a longer version of that LA Campanella PLEASE! That 2 second transition might be the audibly pleasing thing I've ever heard. No exaggeration
I‘ve played piano since I was 4 and i always played classical music. Once I had to take a jazz piano class and I was completely lost, so the piano teacher wrote me an impro😂🥺
This brings memories of the Benny Goodman 1938 Carnegie Hall concert with the "yes Jess" piano solo of Jess Stacy. And then there's Dave Brubeck's "Thank You (Dziękuję)" live 1962 performance from The White House Sessions. Top notch.
you are so incredibly talented! i can tell by just the first seconds! everything is perfection! awesome job! your videos are always amazing and a pleasure to see! keep up the great work! liking and subbing rn!
Awesome video! As a jazz bassist, the last chord symbol was def for a classical pianist reading jazz symbols. I'd write it as G#min(maj7), but that's my perspective.
There's like seven different ways to write it, equally valid for performance purposes. G-∆7 is a pretty common one. The 9th is implied in a minor chord a lot of the time. Especially if the melody note is the 9th, that piece of info will be omitted because your voicing doesn't need to cover it during the head, and you might not want to voice it that way every time through.
Lifetime classical musician here...and i think ..no ...i am convinced tht JAZZ is magical!! i wish i had learned it as much as i had classical piano...and though i just dabble in it for myself...apart from those rare times over my decades having to be ''egged on" by JAZZ musician friends...once even actually begged by a composer jazz friend to just "DIVE RIGHT IN" as avantgarde pianist for his "one act jazz opera" with his HUGE jazz band...for his master's in jazz and composition recital...(manhattan) ...i am certainly NOT a jazz muscian...but i have dreamed of at least seriously learning "how to" ..even in my senior years now...CLASSICAL MUSIC is GREAT and enormous...but JAZZ is truly a gift for any musician and listeners to LIVE in ...BRAVO for this short BUT meaningful video. ! and BRAVO to ALL jazz musicians...you all deserve the warmest appreciation frm EVERY musician of ANY genre. my favorite jazz pianist happen to be oscar peterson,...but there are many others...who afre GIANTS of MUSIC...classical OR jazz...just GIANTS of music!!!
"Take Five's" Dave Brubeck was classically trained, with Arnold Schoenberg and Darius Milhaud as his teachers. Tchaikovsky and Mussorgsky used 5/4 time, and Baroque music requires improvisation, too.
Rarely do people know that back in the day, classical pianist would actually do lots of improv during their concerts and were really good at it! I laughed too hard at the chords. TRUE. Your not a classical musician if you can play chords. This whole thing killed me and I can completely relate but this teaches us though that we should expand our horizons :)
Ok give my bonus point. It's the beginning of the coda of Chopin's G minor Ballade. I recognised it the moment you hit the first chord. Because i listen to it a lot. A lot means a REAL lot
When you play jazz you can’t do so from having a good memory copying, you have to be able to bring your mastery on the fly and play all sorts of different timings, dynamics incongruous congruous music whilst music to the ear. You have to be well down with all polyphonic to the point it’s like alien. I find jazz more challenging than classical and has given me more control in my classical playing.😊
@RM6737, it's a very very popular meme among us in Brazil, expressing confusion, difficulty to understand or hard calculation, this actress played many disturbed female characters on tv, among other remarkable roles, and i had the chance to see her doing a magnificent Lady Macbeth on stage. she is just great! how did you get to know her?
@angelodesouzaa Sou Português, as novelas da Globo eram muito populares aqui, sobretudo desde 1975 até ao final dos anos 90, início dos anos 2000 ("Gabriela" e "Roque Santeiro" foram êxitos COLOSSAIS aqui). Entretanto, no início dos anos 90, eu cansei-me do formato e deixei de ver [assistir] novelas. Mas conheço todos esses grandes artistas da Globo desses tempos mais antigos. As últimas novelas que acompanhei com atenção desde o início ao final foram "Pantanal" (versão original (Bandeirantes?) e "Renascer". A novela mais recente que vi foram os últimos 2/3 (ou 3/4) de "Avenida Brasil" (a Adriana Esteves é grande!).
Bruh, I am DEAD 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 As a classically trained musician with a musical theatre degree, turned commercial and jazz musician, I feel your pain SO HARD! Don't get me wrong, I love singing it all but turning to the commercial and jazz world to attain my dream job has been more of a struggle than I realized...still struggling and learning, but it really has allowed for a wider appreciation for what goes into each style :) But also love how you referred to it as a "piece" as a classical musician but as a 'tune" or something similar as the jazz musician...I don't know if that was on purpose, but lets' be real, that's exactly the vernacular they use in real life! That said...Autumn Leaves is a JAM, and it's THE song that has taught me the most about jazz, and I continue to use it as a learning tool for progressions and scat improv! I remember when I asked for the Real Book for my birthday a few years ago, my parents ended up getting it for me, they saw inside and went "What the hell is this??" 😆 Heck, I still didn't know at the time if I'm honest!
Both the same thing: Eb G (Bb maybe) D A. You usually see it as Eb∆#11, or maybe Ebmaj#11, or Ebmaj7#11, or Eb∆7#11... you start to get the idea. Jamey Aebersold's books are a great way to see all the different names for the _same_ _damn_ _thing_. But it's a rough guide, and is somewhat instrument-specific: the bass player might cover the root, and the pianist might omit the root and the 5th, might add a 13 (C) in there instead of the major 7, might omit the 3rd. All different sounds; the horn player could still play an Eb lydian scale over the whole thing, or might sort of noodle around the chord tones, or maybe just stick with and Eb major triad. Just different sounds depending on how the group reacts. And everyone's coming up with new ways to think about this stuff and practice it. Triad pairs, hinging, substitute scales, playing "out" (polyphony), blues licks, harmonic major scales, it's all fair game if it sounds good.
How can you not recognize that piece at the start of the video? xD ( Chopin: Ballade in G minor [The Horowitz versions are really good]) And there are componists like Hamelin and Sorabji and etc. who make insanely hard but beatiful pieces:D (because of the la Campanella you played in the end. The Hamelin version of la Campanella actually made a ascend the first time I listened to it)
From 2:47, I fell in love with jazz... it shifted its chord progression then played a major chord afterward gives gooosebumps, then the retarding tempo leaves a nice closing...❤
I really don't like the "classical musicians" who hate jazz. It is one thing if you just don't like it (obviously we can like or dislike things) but I'm talking about the people who are disgusted by it and think there is nothing worse than Jazz. I hate to break it to them (yes I've met many like this) but Jazz has its roots in classical, not just African music. There was a good program on PBS called Jazz with Ken Burns. It takes you through the history of Jazz and is really neat to watch.
I still like George Gershwin and Dimitri Shostakovich. And classical music does technically include jazz Scott Joplin wrote the Entertainer in 1902, and still is considered varied through the 1900's as a classical paint price.
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There is a joke I always tell my students: If you want a classical musician to stop playing, take away his scores. If you want a jazz musician to stop playing, give him scores. thank you so much for sharing!
apples and oranges i d say
Actually that wouldn’t work cause we pianists just memorize everything (or at least I do) but I see what you are saying
@@gmnr1336 Everyone does it, at least at certain point
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What about rezitativs?
"Are you telling me jazz musicians pay for sheet music that isn't even finished?"
me, a jazz musician: "No! God no. Of course not. We don't *pay* for it."
*Every band director*
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It's £10 I suppose
real book!
😂😂😂
the first piece is chopin ballade no1
I always recognize it because it’s the piece the main character played in the Pianist when he is found by a German officer. Great piece.
Thmx
Ahhh i was waiting for next few bars in coda
no man. is Liszt
lol it’s so annoying when you know the coda is coming but he just stops
There's great irony with 1:43. Chopin, Beethoven, Schumann, all of the 'great pianists' were also great improvisers. Chopin's improvisations were mindblowingly complicated. This is a skill nearly completely lost to modern pianists. Even I (outside of jazz), don't have much interest in improvising an entire classical style work.
Yup :)) it stems back even further (and even more impressively) into the baroque era, where it wasn’t uncommon for the best to improvise fugues which is ridiculously hard (most people these days can’t even write a fugue given all the time in the world)! This is more of a fun video than a full history lesson but I hope in the future i can cover a lot of different things and bring up this kind of stuff too :))
I think music has become a lot more complex and specialised. Back in those days I guess most pianists were composers and vice versa, whereas nowadays most pianist stick to piano. Pianists also have a huge database of great pieces to perform thanks to all the great composers who came before us
@@sabinhong0307 meh. Complexity is just a two sided coin that never stops spinning. Fugues are still the highest complexity of art and no one makes those anymore. Also "great composers that made great pieces" is low quality thinking. It idolizes normal people that had real issues and imperfections just like everyone else.
I think you have to differenciate between a pianist/interpreter/performer and a composer. A pianist isn’t nessecarily a composer (and vice versa). Nowadays, compared to the times of Beethoven or Chopin, there is a much greater importance of the performance/interpretation of a piece as its own, complex art. Still, many pianists I know do compose or improvise, and to a certain extend you do learn basic theory for that in music school as well.
Of course, they are composers, not just a pianist.
you know it’s a legit piano genius when he makes the bgm of his own outros
Its actually a legit piece, in case u didnt know
@@linglingwannabe9135 uh it’s my own arrangement of Mary had a little lamb :)
Yes 1000000%
@@WillsKeyboardSink ohh i see sry
@@WillsKeyboardSink wait actually? Cuz it sounds like fotb
Inaccurate. A Jazz musician would never give you sheet music.
Thanks for the great content and your playing is amazing as well.
Coffee stained napkin with the changes scribbled in crayon
it's only my second year learning how to perform jazz and we literally never follow the sheet music. we literally use it for the base but we change EVERYTHING 😭
Tell that to Duke Ellington , Fletcher Henderson, Miles etc...and try working as a jazz musician...then get back to me
@@freein2339 well, if you look at monk he never gave his sidemen music. He just had them learn by ear.
@@alanyue3714 "
“I remember guys would look at his music and say: ‘We can’t play this’, but by the end of the rehearsal everybody was playing it anyway.”
SONNY ROLLINS on Thelonious Monk...
That transition was amazingly well done and incredibly clean
yeah the fact it has some a little major-y chords and some low notes in it is so good wow
Genuinely banging.
Omg bro I laughed so hard when you were handed Take Five, because as a classical musician it was the first Jazz piece I was ever handed by my teacher, and I had the literal same reaction to the 5/4 time signature as you did and my teacher was like "Oh! it's so easy!" and I was like: "Bruh. I've been a classical pianists for 6 years wtf is this-"
oh yes, i really transcribed take five for violin clarinet piano and drums for chamber music concert. i really had the same reaction lol
@@sketchmoon3333 PFFT OMG WAIT YOU DID WOW YOU HAVE MY RESPECT-
@@novamusic5134 actually i lied a bit. my friend who was the drummer wrote by hand the score for drums, the basic rythm. i wrote the general score and my teacher would then transcribe the clarinet and violin part from my general score separately so my colleagues would have only their specific part. it was some sort of orchestration from the piano score for take five, it was a great deal for me at the time because i learned to write a score just like you write one in sibelius/musescore, having equal lenght measures, each time from each instrument wrote down one beneith the other and so on. even the barlines were drawn using a ruler so each bar would be perfect lol. now i it's easier to just use musescore but yeah, for a 16-17 yo guy who played only classical and some sort of pop music, i was really happy and considered kinda bold
@@sketchmoon3333 still cool lol! And you still have my respect haha
imho handing a jazz score to a musician to get him to jazz is bad teaching. If you want to get the student to jazz you should make him listen to the thing before playing it. Of course when you're playing in an ensemble and in many other situations you will have to play jazz tunes without hearing them before but teaching tradition in jazz should always start by listening. If you just hand out the sheet music to the people, you're not teaching the jazz tradition but an overly simplified and soulless version of what anyone would actually play
I demand a extended version of that last piece
AGREED
Yes
Yes
What’s the last piece called plsssss
@@alicee.8676 La campanella
I realllllly want a full version of the jazz version of la campanella
Listen to Eugen Cicero's version of la campanella then
Many years ago, I sponsored a week-long jazz mini-course at my school. (I played drums.) One of the students involved was a professional classical pianist, far and away the most accomplished musician of the bunch. She just could not improvise. A senior who was the project's musical director-now a three-time Grammy-nominated instrumentalist, songwriter, and producer-ended up writing charts for her solos, which she played beautifully. They sounded completely improvised, but could not have been less so.
i find this so interesting how some beginners are essentially more 'skilled' at improvising than classically trained musicians just because they don't know how many 'rules' they are breaking by just playing whatever they want. they play what they feel like playing which is great. but both skills are really important.
My piano teacher always had be break classics into chords and improvise over that
For the beginning, I can suggest Giant Steps by John Coltrane. It is a very easy piece to improvise over.
I always heard it’s the staple of jazz improvisation and improvising on it is a rite of passage into becoming a true jazz musician
@@Ace-dv5ce yes that is true. The hard thing about it is, that Coltrain is constantly modulating in every second bare. The piece is also written at a very high tempo, which makes it even harder, because you have think very quickly. In fact, even the pianist Tommy Flanegan who played on the original recording, didn’t managed to improvise over it, but Coltrane still decidet to leave it on the record.
@@nimagarthe Yeaah that’s what I was referring to also, the piano solo.
I do not agree with this recommendation. I would recommend beginners start with “Impressions” or another tune with minimal changes. “Giant Steps” has some awkward changes that are not intuitive for improvising.
@@NightOfCrystals that was a joke. The joke is that it is so hard to improve over and that it isn’t good for beginners at all. It is like saying, that Liszt is good for beginners.
Once had a piece called "The music isn't scaring us". It was in the 5/4 time signature... the first time I saw such a thing
This was absolute amazing 😻 you are a star!
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lol musicalbasis commented
Still waiting for a Hungarian rhapsody No. 2 epic version
What r u doing here
This reminds me of when I was 13 and my music teacher (who was a jazz musician and arranger) and he gave me this piece to play (Monk's 'Round midnight). So I played it like it was a classical piece. He responded - well you site read it ok, but it doesn't go like that! This is jazz. He played it (brilliantly) and I was hooked on Jazz.
When you went jazz man, I was visibly shocked. Like damn! I want a full rendition.
It's funny how jazz makes rules in music theory just to break them
Not really. Well . . .
True though... It's like you learn different scales, modes and then altered chords and substitute them here and there and
and then after all that: forget all the rules and improvise.
Music that sounds good is the only rule....
@@freein2339 fair
huh?
That jazz section blew me away! I need to hear a full version :)
1:37 Literally what I told to my piano teacher the first time he told me to improvise… as a classical music player I was really confused at that point. now I’m doing a blues improv
That was really funny. That is EXACTLY what went through my mind years ago. It was really hard for me to transition to Jazz after years of classical piano. AND, I have so much more learn. I have only scratched the surface.
Please make a full version of that last part, that was addicting to listen to!
I love jazz and classical, especially from the romantic and classical period, and jazz from the bebop through the late 60's.
For pianists that know both, they are truly gifted. I started with classical but realized I was better with improv. and being able to
re-harmonize chords, chord subs, progressions etc. seeing classical music would terrify me---so many notes! I envy those classical
pianists who can site read and play all the notes perfectly in the first or second try.
Both are their own special skills! Glad to see someone who gets that, and you're absolutely correct...anyone who can bounce between classical and commercial/jazz even with moderate ease is a gifted unicorn!
My daddy played classical and jazz piano. I loved it! As kids when he started playing we came from ever we were to the living room to listen! One of my best childhood memories.
You'd probably like cruising through Charles Cornell's TH-cam channel, especially the ones where he begins to examine and explain the differences between playing jazz and classical music. Both of you are amazing musicians! And happy new year to you with excellent health & great success!
That last part before the coda in Chopin's Ballade No.1 in G minor is such an amazing build up
Chopin’s Ballade no. 1 in G minor. What a piece 😍
Oof. I feel the pain bro. I tried learning how to play jazz and the sheets just make little to no sense. I understand that they do sound great if played properly, but how am I supposed to focus on 4 things at a time while reading and playing weird gibberish-looking notes!? Improvising just makes it worse, having to make up music while playing other music, along with the gibberish gives me headaches. I've been getting better at it though, but some sheets still hurt my brain. Great video btw.
It's very rare for jazz musicians to use sheets at all, most of us learn reportoire by ear. This might sound a bit foreign but a good way to practice jazz is to just try and play a fitting melody while listening to the tune you're practicing and getting a good feel for what notes work and what notes don't.
You can always use the cheat code:
Blues scales.
@@vak.o until you can't
Jazz Pianist here.
I believe human cannot focus on 4 things at a time, and can't even do 2. The reason we can play piano in the first place is not because we can think about multiple things in the same time, it's rather because we learnt to use muscle memory to off load our thoughts, therefore, we can treat multiple things as one thing, or even nothing.
The main challenge for classical musician to play Jazz is that the muscle memory they relied on didn't train to recall different memory spontaneously.
It's not true that we focus on multiple things at the same time. We learnt to play different component like chord shapes, Bass lines, melodic lines, scales, arpeggio as part of the muscle memory. So when we read chord charts they trigger our brain to recall the appropriate muscle memories for the chords. If without chord charts, we just go straight into the muscle memory without the triggering part. Both can combine a little conscious decision to make it more spontaneous.
The more components we learn, the more option we get. The more option we get, the easier we can play them, because it'll feel like we have more safety net to fall into.
Many Jazz musician often expressed " feels like playing anything would sound right".
@@Kingstonlomusic It feels a lot like relearning how to play the piano a little. But with prior experience you get me? Kind of like carnival games that are "based off skill". You get a little handicap basically if you've already had experience, but the actual game is altered against your favor. For me, jazz as a classical musician is like rewiring your head with extra components and those components start off difficult to get the hang of, but eventually when it does work right, is great. I have to admit, sometimes it gets oddly addicting to mix some kind of jazz into compositions, even if it is for a tiny bit.
2:33 i would absolutely love to hear this masterpiece on spotify it’s amazing
yoo can someone please transcribe that Jazz version of La Campanella?? Those chords were amazing 😍
I'd say 5/4 is more of a shock to pop musicians than to classical.
Anyway, just amazing performance as usual!
I used to dj and would drop 5/4 just to see the confused look on everyones face.
I’m a prog musician, it gets way worse than 5/4 lol
@@spazco8669 that’s funny!
@@spazco8669 Wish I could see it
Actually really cool arrangement!
Please make a longer version of that LA Campanella PLEASE! That 2 second transition might be the audibly pleasing thing I've ever heard. No exaggeration
I mean it. I come back and listen to this video almost every day
Here I am again. I just rewind the same 15 seconds over and over again
Here again
Here again
I listen to this almost everyday. I DESPERATELY need a full version. PLEASE!
0:01 That piece is Ballade No.1, by Frédéric Chopin
I‘ve played piano since I was 4 and i always played classical music. Once I had to take a jazz piano class and I was completely lost, so the piano teacher wrote me an impro😂🥺
Love this channel, hope you upload more this year :)
This brings memories of the Benny Goodman 1938 Carnegie Hall concert with the "yes Jess" piano solo of Jess Stacy.
And then there's Dave Brubeck's "Thank You (Dziękuję)" live 1962 performance from The White House Sessions. Top notch.
you are so incredibly talented! i can tell by just the first seconds! everything is perfection! awesome job! your videos are always amazing and a pleasure to see! keep up the great work! liking and subbing rn!
I reckon you should post more jazz related playing, I got goose bumps when you dropped the bass! well done
I (politely) demand a longer version of La Jazzpanella!!
I NEED A FULL VERSION OF THAT JAZZ ARRANGED LA CAMPANELLA AT THE END
Awesome video! As a jazz bassist, the last chord symbol was def for a classical pianist reading jazz symbols. I'd write it as G#min(maj7), but that's my perspective.
Sick chord nonetheless
Agree, but it has its 9th. G#m9(Maj7) may be?
Yeah I would write maj7, but it saves money, right?
There's like seven different ways to write it, equally valid for performance purposes. G-∆7 is a pretty common one. The 9th is implied in a minor chord a lot of the time. Especially if the melody note is the 9th, that piece of info will be omitted because your voicing doesn't need to cover it during the head, and you might not want to voice it that way every time through.
That few seconds of Ballade No. 1 was really good and powerful.
Can we get the full version of your jazz la campanella please!??
It is a very nice variation
Agreed! I really liked it
Lifetime classical musician here...and i think ..no ...i am convinced tht JAZZ is magical!! i wish i had learned it as much as i had classical piano...and though i just dabble in it for myself...apart from those rare times over my decades having to be ''egged on" by JAZZ musician friends...once even actually begged by a composer jazz friend to just "DIVE RIGHT IN" as avantgarde pianist for his "one act jazz opera" with his HUGE jazz band...for his master's in jazz and composition recital...(manhattan) ...i am certainly NOT a jazz muscian...but i have dreamed of at least seriously learning "how to" ..even in my senior years now...CLASSICAL MUSIC is GREAT and enormous...but JAZZ is truly a gift for any musician and listeners to LIVE in ...BRAVO for this short BUT meaningful video. ! and BRAVO to ALL jazz musicians...you all deserve the warmest appreciation frm EVERY musician of ANY genre. my favorite jazz pianist happen to be oscar peterson,...but there are many others...who afre GIANTS of MUSIC...classical OR jazz...just GIANTS of music!!!
Him: “Ya like jazz?”
**Bee movie intencifies**
That ending gave me some frikin goosey goosebumps ❤️🔥🎼
Piece in the beginning is the coda of Chopin Ballade no. 1. lmao finally my time to shine.
Opening piece is Chopin Ballade no 1 in g minor
I started trying Jazz a few weeks ago. My head was literally hurting for a few days because of the weird rhythms.
i loved that part at 2:48
Fun video! That teaser at the end, now you gotta upload another one with you playing more jazz :D
The fragment at the start was Chopin ballade no 1
"Take Five's" Dave Brubeck was classically trained, with Arnold Schoenberg and Darius Milhaud as his teachers. Tchaikovsky and Mussorgsky used 5/4 time, and Baroque music requires improvisation, too.
I knew all the jazz pieces, they’re all awesome, man classical musicians are so entertaining
I play a lot of genres of music including classical and jazz. I can completely agree with this😂😂
Jazz piano music scores are no jokes. I love both jazz, and classicals -- music in general, can't wait to resume practice.
This video was amazing
Jazzical musicians are great influencers. Franz Liszt's "La Jazzanella" is a great example.
Fun video! I’m jealous of your talent! So impressive!
To learn jazz, it helps to listen to a lot of jazz. You need to develop an ear for it.
That is absolutely correct. It is very different to classical music, because technique and practice isn’t the only thing required in jazz.
Well, that goes for any genre
@@f52_yeevy yes but it is very important for jazz. You have to develop a swing feel and an ear for good ideas and improvisation.
@@f52_yeevy not really, most commercial music is formulated
Teasing with Ballade No1 again! And here I am still hoping for the full version. Nice to see new content :)
Rarely do people know that back in the day, classical pianist would actually do lots of improv during their concerts and were really good at it! I laughed too hard at the chords. TRUE. Your not a classical musician if you can play chords. This whole thing killed me and I can completely relate but this teaches us though that we should expand our horizons :)
That made me smile! I also love both. Most of us do!
"Are you trying to tell me that jazz musicians pay for sheet music that isn't even finished?"
Lol no, you don't PAY for the sheet music...
Ok give my bonus point. It's the beginning of the coda of Chopin's G minor Ballade. I recognised it the moment you hit the first chord. Because i listen to it a lot. A lot means a REAL lot
we all love jazz.. you know it...
That La Campanella arrangement was FANTASTIC I need more🤣
When you play jazz you can’t do so from having a good memory copying, you have to be able to bring your mastery on the fly and play all sorts of different timings, dynamics incongruous congruous music whilst music to the ear. You have to be well down with all polyphonic to the point it’s like alien. I find jazz more challenging than classical and has given me more control in my classical playing.😊
Blues plays 3 chords for a thousand people.
Jazz plays a thousand chords for 3 people.
Lmao I can relate I tried picking up jazz sheet musics before haha
Need a full version of this piece
0:45 So weird to see brazillian actress Renata Sorrah's face in a video about jazz vs. Classical music.
@RM6737, it's a very very popular meme among us in Brazil, expressing confusion, difficulty to understand or hard calculation, this actress played many disturbed female characters on tv, among other remarkable roles, and i had the chance to see her doing a magnificent Lady Macbeth on stage. she is just great! how did you get to know her?
@angelodesouzaa Sou Português, as novelas da Globo eram muito populares aqui, sobretudo desde 1975 até ao final dos anos 90, início dos anos 2000 ("Gabriela" e "Roque Santeiro" foram êxitos COLOSSAIS aqui). Entretanto, no início dos anos 90, eu cansei-me do formato e deixei de ver [assistir] novelas. Mas conheço todos esses grandes artistas da Globo desses tempos mais antigos.
As últimas novelas que acompanhei com atenção desde o início ao final foram "Pantanal" (versão original (Bandeirantes?) e "Renascer". A novela mais recente que vi foram os últimos 2/3 (ou 3/4) de "Avenida Brasil" (a Adriana Esteves é grande!).
@angelodesouzaa Eu conheço o meme, mas nunca o tinha visto no meio de um video feito por "gringos".
The last jazz arrangement got me movin'... I bet everyone wants a sheet music for that or an extended version
Bruh, I am DEAD 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 As a classically trained musician with a musical theatre degree, turned commercial and jazz musician, I feel your pain SO HARD! Don't get me wrong, I love singing it all but turning to the commercial and jazz world to attain my dream job has been more of a struggle than I realized...still struggling and learning, but it really has allowed for a wider appreciation for what goes into each style :)
But also love how you referred to it as a "piece" as a classical musician but as a 'tune" or something similar as the jazz musician...I don't know if that was on purpose, but lets' be real, that's exactly the vernacular they use in real life!
That said...Autumn Leaves is a JAM, and it's THE song that has taught me the most about jazz, and I continue to use it as a learning tool for progressions and scat improv! I remember when I asked for the Real Book for my birthday a few years ago, my parents ended up getting it for me, they saw inside and went "What the hell is this??" 😆 Heck, I still didn't know at the time if I'm honest!
This was absolutely hilarious!
Well done young man, you get it and you’re super talented!
0:12 *Insert Vine Boom Sound Effect*
This is truly the most succinct explanation of jazz I've ever come across.
1:52 No we don't pay for it
“If you really can’t improvise.”
“I didn’t say that!”
I feel like this was a subtle jab at classical musicians.
1:13
Is that E flat delta sharp 4 .. or E flat Major 7 sharp 4??
I'm still trying to learn official chord names and different ways of writing them
Both the same thing: Eb G (Bb maybe) D A. You usually see it as Eb∆#11, or maybe Ebmaj#11, or Ebmaj7#11, or Eb∆7#11... you start to get the idea. Jamey Aebersold's books are a great way to see all the different names for the _same_ _damn_ _thing_. But it's a rough guide, and is somewhat instrument-specific: the bass player might cover the root, and the pianist might omit the root and the 5th, might add a 13 (C) in there instead of the major 7, might omit the 3rd. All different sounds; the horn player could still play an Eb lydian scale over the whole thing, or might sort of noodle around the chord tones, or maybe just stick with and Eb major triad. Just different sounds depending on how the group reacts. And everyone's coming up with new ways to think about this stuff and practice it. Triad pairs, hinging, substitute scales, playing "out" (polyphony), blues licks, harmonic major scales, it's all fair game if it sounds good.
Interesting. Beautiful jazz improvisation at the end!
Chopin Ballade no 1 Op 23 in g minor, this was the last song played in Your Lie in April 🥲
what you play at the end is sooo good man, you're a genius
Do you have transcription of this?? 2:48 🥺🥺🥺 please?
Ah, this was great!!
This is exactly how I feel (classically trained) whenever I'm put in some bigband. Spot on!
How can you not recognize that piece at the start of the video? xD ( Chopin: Ballade in G minor [The Horowitz versions are really good])
And there are componists like Hamelin and Sorabji and etc. who make insanely hard but beatiful pieces:D (because of the la Campanella you played in the end. The Hamelin version of la Campanella actually made a ascend the first time I listened to it)
I love the g minor ballade! Its my fav and i immediately recognised it🎉🎉
0:11 please tell me that was on purpose
From 2:47, I fell in love with jazz... it shifted its chord progression then played a major chord afterward gives gooosebumps, then the retarding tempo leaves a nice closing...❤
2:52 - 2:55 Oh my gosh I can't express how much I love that part.
Same, I was looking for this comment
that my friend is the sound of a beautiful ii-V-I (2-5-1). The most common jazz progression
ok, that was impressively smooth, very very, veeery creative, well done
What I love to do is to compose and record chord progressions, and improvise on them.
I really don't like the "classical musicians" who hate jazz. It is one thing if you just don't like it (obviously we can like or dislike things) but I'm talking about the people who are disgusted by it and think there is nothing worse than Jazz. I hate to break it to them (yes I've met many like this) but Jazz has its roots in classical, not just African music. There was a good program on PBS called Jazz with Ken Burns. It takes you through the history of Jazz and is really neat to watch.
we need a full version of that jazzy capanella
You have to make a full version of the la Campanella jazz and make a sheet music
la jazzanella was sick bro
That Jazz La Campanella arrangement was amazing!
Jazz is really cool
I still like George Gershwin and Dimitri Shostakovich. And classical music does technically include jazz Scott Joplin wrote the Entertainer in 1902, and still is considered varied through the 1900's as a classical paint price.
Meant to type piano, but I hit autocorrect.
I am not gonna lie...that transition just singlehandedly gave me a new found interest in piano jazz and jazz music in general. Astounding.
Jazz just hits differently.