Even if they *do* apologize, it's some kind of passive-aggressive "I'm just doing my job, I don't want to be mean to you, but it's your fault and you brought this on yourself. You should be apologizing to me."
@@satanlxvesme Yikes, that's terrible. What a jerk. Don't let their words stick with you. You belong just as much as the others do, no matter how much money everyone has, what they look like, or how "talented" they are. You had a right to be there, whether that teacher liked it or not.
Jazz is not only about how to play wrong notes, it is also about how to make more wrong notes so at the end you end up the key you start in while bringing amusement to the crowd
This reminds me of something I read a while ago. "One time, I was performing in an ensemble, and didn't realize the sheet music was double-sided, so I finished the piece about a page earlier than everyone else. Fortunately, it was jazz, and no one noticed."
@@Ivannbeats An ensemble. If your in a jazz ensemble you don’t learn the songs by ear, you probably could, but there’s usually 15-20 people and in an ensemble they all have different parts. I’m in a couple bands, I’m in my high school jazz band along with a jazz ensemble with post secondary and high school students that run by my band teacher, then I have concert band, and I’m taking jazz class at school. Jazz class we do more of combos, we still use sheet music but we all play the melody and put a lot of focus towards solos. In jazz class since we’re all playing the melody we could do it by ear to learn songs, but we’d have to work together to make sure we all get the pitch right because we wouldn’t want everyone to be playing completely different pitches. If you mean that you should learn your music and then have it memorized, we don’t have to, but I do have most of my songs for jazz class memorized because they’re simple and have had them for a while I still have the sheet music while playing though. I have 26 songs and counting so I definitely need sheet music for some of the songs
I remember a gig I played as a teenager. My band opened with a jazzy number that had space for a keyboard solo in it, and when it came around time for my solo, my mind just… Completely blanked. I forgot what key and scale I was playing in, and at more than one point I started touch-typing keys (literally just playing everything with my index fingers). Like I started panicking and my brain completely shut down. My band mates thought it was the best solo I ever played, and the artist we were opening for (who was a pretty widely celebrated artist) complemented me on it afterword. You really cannot fuck up in jazz
@@EvilCat-EnergyCatalyst Yeah, the band was The Roaring Hamster. We were just a local band, but we were opening for Coolio that night Edit: this was in late 2008, and sadly it was my last gig with the band. Both my lead singer and Coolio have passed by now, but I won’t forget the interactions I had with either of them
Similar story, my high school jazz band were performing in a regional competition, and I was the sole saxophonist in the band. For weeks leading up, I couldn't quite nail down the solo I was given and was petrified to let the band down on the big day. I have no idea what happened, but my fingers just went wild and did their own thing the entire time. Literal jazz hands, but while grasping an instrument. I came off stage about to apologise and our coach(?) ran up beaming ear to ear and said I blew him away with my improvisation. My band mates were shocked too. Probably not as shocked as me though. We got 2nd place, which was fine because 1st place always went to the actual professional student jazz band lol
High school jazz competition, 15 year old kid new to bass, I played a bass solo once that I felt ashamed of. Two college judges approached me afterwards saying things like "that was off the reservation, you have real feel and daring" and "I love your direction, your originality." I remained very very confused about it.
this is exactly how i felt when i played bass in jazz band for the first time. i dont know how to read notes so i was going purely by ear and the whole time im think maaan im playing the wrong notes but at the end of class they were all like wow you are very good at pitch and good at playing along with us at the end of the day i was confused but also very happy i didnt screw up on the first day i played in jazz band
@@layneburton7109 hehehe believe it or not going into college reading music was actually pretty hard for me. When I started band in 7th grade to the time I ended in 12th I had 4 different band teachers. I shit you not. I learned to play almost entirely by ear and by the feel of the music and for years no one said a whole lot about it. When I met my band professor he had me play and then he says "You learned to play music by ear didnt you?" I asked him how he knew that and he goes cause I can see by how your struggling since theres only so many people around you with a similar part. He said playing by ear is a very very valuable skill to have but I really really need to learn how to read music better. Yet I still managed to get a fulk ride scholarship to college.
@@layneburton7109 omg dude when I was in grade 10 I got to audition for the senior jazz band normally for grade 12s because the bassists wanted to leave but needed a replacement and we were in the same music class. Well it wasn't a solo audition, I got to sit in during practice but it was a test to see if i was good enough and my stupid self played ALMOST THE ENTIRE PRACTICE WITH THE SHEET MUSIC UPSIDE DOWN BEFORE I REALIZED. I was so ashamed of myself but the teacher/bandleader came up to me after and told me I nailed it and very good 😆😂
I can tell you one thing for sure. Improvisation was actually common, even before Beethoven's time. Mozart and his friend Clementi would play each other pieces and deliberate change things. Therefore, Classical performance and even the idea of composition was not as rigid as we tend to see it. This is why the uTube music "teacher" Adam Neelys gets so many things wrong. He claims to be progressive, but he constantly tries to push "Classical" people into one box and himself ("Jazz" musician) in another. Neely also made videos claiming that perfect pitch cannot be learn, yet seemingly hundreds of musicians and lay-people responded that they did, and that you can. Not to mention Adam Neely's rants on why we shouldn't tune to A-432 Scientific Tuning because it's "voodoo." Yet, A-440 concert pitch is entirely random and does not fit into mathematical patterns, sacred geometry, the Golden section, etc. Growing up in small-town New Mexico and Texas in the 80's kids would make fun of you listened to Classical. I was a music that simply did not exist. // On the other hand, as a pianist having studied in NYC, I noticed that Asian pianist's I'd hand hang out couldn't play without the music. Whereas I'd just sit at their piano and go thru some Chopin or whatever. And even if i got a note wrong, I'd just delay it or blend it into the mix! // Bottom line: Beethoven rocked! - _The Acoustic Rabbit Hole_ @theacousticrabbithole9608
@@A-432-ZoneThe 432 Hz thing genuinely is just BS though. Lowering the pitch makes it sound lower. Nothing mystical or special about it. 432hz music is literally just pitch shifted 31 cents and thats it
The hardest part is actually the rhythm for me, notes that are accentuated by the beat sound really bad if they are "out". But if you play the same notes before or after the beat your in the clear. Think chromatic approaches and those 16th note semi tone slides into the correct chords. Playing them seems to be hugely dependent on the rhythm that said im not good at it so i havent had much success in freeform jazz yet.
In music class we learned to improvise and one of the first things we learned that when you hit a wrong note (scalewise), go down or up halfsteps until it sound right and BOOM. J A Z Z
one time i messed up a jazz solo so bad and played so many wrong notes and i was so embarrassed but several people came up and told me afterwords that i had best solo there so that was cool i guess
My late jazz teacher always said “If you play the wrong note, keep going. What the audience don’t know, won’t hurt em.” Jazz is all about mistakes and improvisation. It don’t mean a thing, if it ain’t got that swing 🎵
Rhythm is more important for a jazz solo. Hit the wrong note with correct timing, dynamics and inflection and it's all good! Victor Wooden is all about this.
My high school band director was actually a flaming Italian goblin and would go out of his way to demote snare players to bass drum or percussion if they were struggling, because that's the one thing the audience can hear go wrong (not like they could see us back there - he called my dad once because my shoes, in the very back row, were grey not black). So 16 year old me was in for a treat when I spent weeks practicing a snare part and on the day of the concert, I was given a bass drum mallet and was told to switch off every other song with the 'demoted' bass drum player. Because apparently this teacher also had a thing where upperclassmen had priority over parts for the show, and he could care less that I was prepared. I asked to get another snare (we didnt bring our own) but it was a "too bad so sad, you'll play snare next year" kinda situation with him and I lost. It was like saying "Hey you're great in my class but youre a freshman so you can't play the big boy instruments on stage in front of your parents who pay for your drum lessons" I understand a lot of drummers kinda goof off cause theyre in the back or were forced to do band, but geez, this teacher was one anal motherfucker about perfection and discipline and 'its not always fair'. His shitty ways have probably scared off tons of good drummers in the process - after quitting band, I joined a way cooler music program outside of the school
I find it ironic how I went from playing mariachi type music (with trumpet) to jazz like (with sax) to metal (electric guitar) and I honestly prefer playing metal just sucks that my high school doesn't offer anything involving rock/metal
@@ItsKam My brother was in band in HS (we both joined in Middle School for the cool MS teacher, but I stopped after), and after about one year, the HS Band teacher got more control of it. He decided he HAD to "improve" the bands by forcing all band students to be in both Concert and Marching band. He didn't care your reasons for wanting one but not the other, but insisted the rule be enforced. Enrollment in band dropped, quality dropped, and to top it all off, he made them wear thin, skin-tight uniforms that had that weird shattered stained-glass pattern...
No, seriously, this HAPPENS. I remember going to a regional competition with my high school jazz band, and I had an improv solo ready to go for our big set. One way or another, I ended up screwing up HALF of what I'd prepared, and I was all "Welp. At least I'm not planning to peak in high school." Then we got the notes back. I received TOP MARKS from the judges. Edit: Yes, I did, in fact, PREPARE an IMPROV SOLO, which tells you pretty much everything you need to know about me in high school XD
@@danielc4267 You can! Here's how: 1) Listen to the actual piece several times while practicing 2) Latch onto a theme from the piece and play with the key, motion, beat, etc. 3) Find a version of that you like and stick to it until the day of the concert 4) COMPLETELY FORGET IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CONCERT and give the judge A Look like "Yes this is ABSOLUTELY what I meant to do no I will not be accepting criticism that's your entire job isn't it F*CK"
In jazz, you hit a “wrong note” just move that interval up or down chromatically until you’re back in scale and you just had a bebop moment haha. People be like “dayum he just went outside AF!!” Whenever I do this moving an interval up or down chromatically thing I feel like Charlie Parker for a moment, minus the genius and heroin of course
I love your portrayal of jazz fans, so many people think we're these advanced sophisticated superhumans when in reality we're just weird unhygienic dorks who like weird textures and chord progressions
As a songwriter who presses record then improvises each layer, the misplayed notes have taken me places I didn’t expect... happy accidents... I follow where the music takes me, same when writing poetry... minimal grip on outcome
@@TonyNaber well, there is "clean" or casual jazz, generally known to be elevator or lobby music which usually aims to provide an easy listening experience and which has little to no "wrong" notes. The deeper you go from there into jazz, the more you will see people throw in these notes. They are like the spice in a meal. They make things more exciting and introduce more contrasts (dissonance+the usually following resolve into a more pleasing note) into the music. At a certain point people just go to far for my taste, tho. Some jazz musicians forget that the "wrong" notes are supposed to be the spice, not the main meal...
As a classical singer, I love this! For anyone worried, most are very forgiving in classical settings. We know it’s hard stuff and that there are so many cogs in the machine, that as long as you don’t panic and get back on track, no one will ever remember the mistake, much less mention it.
After learning that "jazz is all about the notes you are NOT playing" sometimes I lay awake at night knowing that I am currently, and can never not be, playing jazz...
I remember one time while performing a jazz piece, for some reason I got ENTIRELY lost. I had a rough idea of the melody so I just went off muscle memory for a little bit and prayed to god it sounded okay. When we finished I turned to my friend and said “Dude, I got TOTALLY lost for like eight bars there” and he said “You what?”
I can’t imagine how hard it would be to *learn* a riff, however sometimes I sit down at the piano, choose a key, and just randomly improvise with no possible way of recalling whatever the heck I just spat out, and a sit down thinking, “Man that was great.”
My uncle, who has a degree in classical piano, was once experimenting with jazz. He said “Watch this! You hit all the wrong notes, but on PURPOSE!!!” And it blew my mind XD
@@rivvie in jazz you gotta have opposites. you have to have dark and light. if you have dark on dark you have nothing. if you have light on light you have nothing
Trumpet player here - often when I'm improvising I have no clue what note it is because the fingering can be the same for notes close together in high registers.
@@danielm-k7393 also a trumpet player here-. I'm not the most confident one and i just can't do a solo without freaking out and even in improvised solos I still get nervous for playing so bad infront of my classmates.
@@JJPMaster Oh, it all refers back to classical music - I would say. Metal -> Rock -> Rock`n Roll -> Jazz -> marching music -> classical music. Kind of linear in theorie - of course it's not thaaaat easy in Reality
that's the magic of jazz, they sound great because they're not thrown inappropriately in context. If you highlight what you do properly, any note can do in jazz. It's actually a skill I've always found mesmerizing, and I still think Jazz is the hardest genre because of that. You either have it in you, or struggle to have it like slave, working and practicing theory
@@AM-we8hj Most musicians in my experience just run into a wall because they look too much at what others do and lack confidence in their own potential. They judge themselves in terms of limitations instead of what makes them unique from a positive frame of mind. So to me I don't think it's a question of "having it" and "not having it". But about whether you can learn to accept you who you are and have the courage to follow your instincts and see it leads, rather than trying to become someone else.
Jep me too.. playing for over 10 years.. can't read music.. play everything by ear.. and can't even tell you what notes i'm playing. Atleast i know i use allot of power chords,hammer on and just single strings..
I was playing Lagrima then my teacher suddenly cut me off and asked me “was that a Jazz version of Lagrima?” Now I know what exactly he was trying to say. 😂
PRECISELY. Play a note that doesn't fit the current chord, you WILL get a few glares. Play enough wrong notes and the boss will come tap you on the shoulder mid-set. If that happens you know it's time to leave the bandstand. Classical contrabassi get off easy. The conductor throws batons and kicks music stands while screaming at the top of his lungs. "ALWAYS THE WOODEN CARTS! THEY ARE NOT INSTRUMENTS! BALL BREAKERS! ALWAYS LATE! YOU HAVE NO EARS, NO EYES, NOTHING AT ALL! MULE'S HEADS! YOU ARE DEAF! IT'S A SHAME! SHAME ON YOU! YOU HAVE EARS IN YOUR FEET! YOU ARE NOT MUSICIANS!" Then somehow everything comes together and you still have a job. (that was Toscanini btw)
Thus far more easy to play by ear then classical arrangements. On the other hand, ridiculous to write down... While you obviously don't need ears or an orchestra sittigng right next to you to write down classical arrangements.
I don’t know how he made it jazzy without swing, and it’s kind of the most incredible part for me. One of the most import parts of swing is that you play the high-hat on 2 and 4, but the mad-lad made the backing track play on 1 and 3. And he still made the solo swing! I’m impressed.
Playing the wrong note once is like jumping the crashing plane without parachute, and improvising your way back to the right key on the right bar is like taking a parachute from a dead person that jumped before you ala Jazz Bond.
@Pottic Harrir that's not true. there was a person who was an entire page off, and nobody noticed. the person had no idea the entire time either. shows that the person doesn't know what the heck is going on, and neither does anyone else lol. the person "thought" they knew what they were doing, and was completely clueless in reality.
When Jazz professionals play a wrong note, it's like them taking a wrong turn on their way home. But, instead of turning back they keep driving on that road until they find their way home. So, they eventually turn the wrong note into a right note. So it sounds like the mistake was supposed to happen, to get to their destination. I'm not at that level. I'm learning jazz guitar and I'm the type to drive in backwards and try and take the right road, when I make a wrong turn.
my only advice is trust no one in jazz. A lot of people are just really bad at improvising and they'll say that some horrible licks were intentional while they simply couldnt do them better
This is inaccurate in classical music stereotype, i do have red about the use of tritones banned in the old times. Actually Beethoven used it in the Trio 2nd subject of the 2nd movement Moonlight Sonata. So ye after Baroque
I once sent this video to my “Music Appreciation” teacher. And yes, that’s a real class, I took it because I thought it would be easy. The assignment was on differences between classical or jazz and I just sent this video along with whatever bullshit I wrote. She said she loved it and thought it was great for illustrating some of the differences between them. That class was one of the easiest As I’ve ever gotten.
Those listening tests were ridiculously challenging for us in Cleveland, even if you studied heavily! Our teacher at Case Western had to grade the midterms and finals on a curve because the average score was approaching fail, and these were mostly conservatory students from nearby Cleveland Institute of Music.
@@LiterallySoManyBears when i joined my highschool jazz band as a guitarist, being i was the only one who asked to join, i was automatically taken in. Didnt know how to read notes only tabs but i somehow got away with it for 3 years lmao
@@kotahmerrill6305 I get where you're coming from. I play Bari Sax in Jazz Band which I know the notes for. But I play the piano by ear. I just memorize the song then figure it out by playing.
To be fair tho playing “wrong notes” well in jazz takes a lot of skill. Throwback to middle school jazz band where there were wrong notes but less skill lol
@@rararasputin8608 It's more that you can't just play the wrong notes, you have to either play the "right" wrong notes (i.e., substituting the original note for a different one that also fits well there) or taking the wrong note you played and running with it and spinning off into playing your own thing that still fits with the original melody.
i was once in a school talent show, playing isabellas lullaby but i couldnt quite hear the piano i was playing, the notes and the pedal were so soft it was scary to play it. At one point i forgot the melody (since my playing is mostly by ear) i took my hands off the piano and begin to hit some notes i remembered (improvising without noticing it) then at some point i could hear the faint piano and kinda work it out till the end. Luckily my classic pianist teacher wasn't there, he would've had a heart attack. But the people didnt seem to notice my error (well my family did) but my classmates and other teachers told me i played beautifully. But i think i sounded like crap- since im classically trained, at least they didnt make fun of me? i guess
One of my favorite quotes by my favorite musicians is “I just know how I feel, not how it feels.” Meaning you could be up there, playing your heart out, and thinking that you’re absolutely bombing, but to the audience, it could sound like the best thing they’ve ever heard. When you’re playing on a stage, in the moment, it is borderline impossible to discern how it sounds to the people out there. I remember at an open mic jam, I was playing She’s So Heavy by the Beatles, and I thought we all bombed. But the guy who runs the jam, came up to all of us after and told us this is why he runs the jam, and genuinely thought it was one of the best things he’d ever witnessed at that jam. So I try to remember that when I’m playing, all I know is how I feel I’m the moment, and it’s really totally irrelevant to how it actually sounds
One of the best Solos I ever played on sax was when I straight up forgot the key and just went mad hitting random notes. Probably sounded awful, but all my musician friends found it hilarious! They noticed my panicked face, followed by the Screw it shrug straight into 500 chromatic notes in 5 bars. Fun times
Yeah you guys have it easy, you guys don't have to pick your wrong notes intentionally, informed by an extensive knowledge of what notes would sound good in certain contexts and why, you guys can just pick from any note you know is wrong and bend it lol.
Actually, scales makes up a majority of Jazz. Major or Natural Minor scales, Harmonic/Melodic Minor, etc In fact, that's all a solo is. A good solo will follow the Chord changes (with tasteful) embellishments. A bad solo will ignore that and play whatever. It's required to know the scales (Example being if I want to improv over C7(#9), I should know the Blues, Mixolydian, etc)
A fellow performer once said to me: "When you play a wrong note, just play the next one louder!" I said "What if that note is still wrong?" "Play the next one even louder!"
I know a really small punk band here in California (that doesn't play together much anymore) and some of the songs used some really irregular chords that kind of shouldn't sound right. Problem is: I never noticed until the bassist told me. It just sounded like some good-ass punk rock to me.
Something i always tell people getting into theatre: "If you forget your lines or blocking, just make something up and try to recover the scene. The audience doesn't know the script, so they'll only know you messed up if you freeze." My older brother did this himself once when someone started a scene too early. He walked out after them and ad-libbed a scene until everyone else got onstage. The audience didn't notice a thing.
Yea I was expecting Jazz guitar like he was playing but with clear blunders. That was very structured jazz and I was expecting more freeform jazz with the player still remaining constant between skits as well as the audience and when he hit the "wrong" note in jazz looking up in trepidation to his surprise to see the audience ohhing and awwing or just nodding their heads or snapping.
to be honest when i write music i play randomly at first and record it so i can edit together parts i like and learn what i played so i can rerecord it on a guitar with new strings and with better timing.
I learned music on the cello, played for 4 years, it was all very structured. Then circumstances forced me to learn bass guitar and eventually drop the cello. Eventually I wanted interesting parts, so I joined the jazz band, which was one of the best decisions I have ever made. Sure I still stress out over mistakes, but I’m nowhere near the perfectionist I used to be. I can even do a bit of improv now! Not in front of a crowd, but i can do it. The change has affected the rest of my life too, and im taking risks I never would have taken before. Hell, I asked my crush out on Valentine’s Day, he said no, and I didn’t even get emotional about it. All in all, im glad I was forced out of orchestra, and im glad I watched this video that allowed me to make this connection
All 12 notes WORK. You just have to learn more scales aside the Major scale. Harmonic min................melodic min Harmonic min b2 melodic min b2 Harmonic min #4 melodic min #4 Harmonic min b5 Melodic min b5 Harmonic min b2m b5 Melodic min b2, b5 well....even Loc b4 ( the super duper alter scale)..gets borning N all that jazz...( I hate Jazz),,You CANT play the WRONG CHORD Either. In other words...you can also alter any chord to whatever.. from whatever chord degree within the 12 notes. V-I......G7 into C Maj ii, V, I D min G7 , C Maj bII, V , I ...D Maj7 G7 into C MAJOR or the A melodic min verion ( from the relative minor) ii, V, i .....B min E7 into A min or the C Harmonic MAJOR I, iv, V C Maj F min G7 into C Major or C Maj F min Ab Maj7 G7 into C Major or A min...G Maj F Maj E7 into A min or A min G Maj F Maj E7 into A Maj7 D Maj7 E Maj7 C# min F# min B min G Maj F Maj Ab Maj6 G min C min D7 E7 into A min/C MAJOR
My mother’s piano teacher told her, “If you play a wrong note, play it with confidence! Then people will think you did it on purpose and that you’re making a bold modification to the song!” 😆
This perfectly captures how and why I hated piano when I was little being classically trained, and then how I fell in love with it later in life when I became jazz inspired
You know the band where i was i played keyboard and guitar (just in auxiliar sounds) but we played rammstein gorillaz 80 pop music coldplay etc and other keyboardist were upset with me for beign a novice but played very well the synth songs strings etc the things i use to play were too easy but sounded very good and the guy in charge of us told me , I like more having you in my band that all those "profesional guys" almost student musicans are a bunch of arrogant idiots they know how to play but they dont know about team work.. making impossible working in a band like us.. i always tone the guitar and bass of my band mates and we were very good friends today the singer that was our leader is dead he is no more in this world he use to sing very very well
I remember watching this a few years ago before I knew anything about bass and was only doing piano. Now that I follow Charles as a Bassist, this video is even more funny.
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"If you make a mistake, just make sure you do it again."
Happens to me every time
Yes,for sure
Thank You so much Bass Master Charles
Repetition legitimizes
Wrong notes are spicy if they're on tempo.
The only unrealistic thing about this, is that the conductor apologized after that rant
HA! Ain't that right!
Even if they *do* apologize, it's some kind of passive-aggressive "I'm just doing my job, I don't want to be mean to you, but it's your fault and you brought this on yourself. You should be apologizing to me."
It is a bug vs feature thing.
i had one that use to sit me outsaide of class n tell me i dont belong here and to repeat it to myself
@@satanlxvesme Yikes, that's terrible. What a jerk.
Don't let their words stick with you. You belong just as much as the others do, no matter how much money everyone has, what they look like, or how "talented" they are. You had a right to be there, whether that teacher liked it or not.
my jazz band teacher always told us “if you play a wrong note during a solo, just play it again a bunch of times on purpose and no one will know”
I'm dying.
@@SDfighter1 Dial 911
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@Deus Vult. have you tried putting ice on them?
"Repetition legitimizes"
- Some youtuber probably
As one of my friends from my sound design class said, “Play one wrong note, you done fucked up. Play two wrong notes, it’s jazz.”
Jazz is not only about how to play wrong notes, it is also about how to make more wrong notes so at the end you end up the key you start in while bringing amusement to the crowd
Play three and you just dont know how to play your instrument lol
Play four and you should be taking lessons
Play every note wrong, on purpose, and it's experimental
@@ItsKam play nothing at all and you’re officially John Cage
This reminds me of something I read a while ago.
"One time, I was performing in an ensemble, and didn't realize the sheet music was double-sided, so I finished the piece about a page earlier than everyone else. Fortunately, it was jazz, and no one noticed."
@@Ivannbeats An ensemble. If your in a jazz ensemble you don’t learn the songs by ear, you probably could, but there’s usually 15-20 people and in an ensemble they all have different parts. I’m in a couple bands, I’m in my high school jazz band along with a jazz ensemble with post secondary and high school students that run by my band teacher, then I have concert band, and I’m taking jazz class at school. Jazz class we do more of combos, we still use sheet music but we all play the melody and put a lot of focus towards solos. In jazz class since we’re all playing the melody we could do it by ear to learn songs, but we’d have to work together to make sure we all get the pitch right because we wouldn’t want everyone to be playing completely different pitches. If you mean that you should learn your music and then have it memorized, we don’t have to, but I do have most of my songs for jazz class memorized because they’re simple and have had them for a while I still have the sheet music while playing though. I have 26 songs and counting so I definitely need sheet music for some of the songs
Bro responded with the entire Jazz bible
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@@Ivannbeats all jokes are good and bad...it depends on how sensitive someone is....and there is always someone with the trigger ready to pop....
@@DeadPerfection amen to that
As someone who played double bass this is incredibly accurate except for when you realize no one can actually hear you
:(
I did a bit of contrabass for band and even with an amplifier no one can hear you.
played the electric bass myself, i could never hear what i was playing over anyone else
I go outta my way to try to isolate the base when I listen to music
No musician should go unrecognized, and music without base is just.. without soul
@@Set2Wumbo i guess you could say that such music is Bassless?
"A wrong note played in distress is a wrong note. A wrong note played in confidence is an interpretation."
-my jazz teacher
Words to live by
"Fake it 'till you make it."
~ Basically What He Said
Wise man.
Yes siree.
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My guitar teacher once told me “One wrong note is a slip up, two wrong notes are a mistake, and three wrong notes are Jazz”
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And four wrong notes is Contemporary!
@@Schrodinger364 Five wrong notes is pentatonics, Six wrong notes is ...
blues!!!
I remember a gig I played as a teenager. My band opened with a jazzy number that had space for a keyboard solo in it, and when it came around time for my solo, my mind just… Completely blanked. I forgot what key and scale I was playing in, and at more than one point I started touch-typing keys (literally just playing everything with my index fingers). Like I started panicking and my brain completely shut down.
My band mates thought it was the best solo I ever played, and the artist we were opening for (who was a pretty widely celebrated artist) complemented me on it afterword.
You really cannot fuck up in jazz
do you remember the name of your band and the artist you were opening for?
@@EvilCat-EnergyCatalyst Yeah, the band was The Roaring Hamster. We were just a local band, but we were opening for Coolio that night
Edit: this was in late 2008, and sadly it was my last gig with the band. Both my lead singer and Coolio have passed by now, but I won’t forget the interactions I had with either of them
Similar story, my high school jazz band were performing in a regional competition, and I was the sole saxophonist in the band. For weeks leading up, I couldn't quite nail down the solo I was given and was petrified to let the band down on the big day. I have no idea what happened, but my fingers just went wild and did their own thing the entire time. Literal jazz hands, but while grasping an instrument. I came off stage about to apologise and our coach(?) ran up beaming ear to ear and said I blew him away with my improvisation. My band mates were shocked too. Probably not as shocked as me though.
We got 2nd place, which was fine because 1st place always went to the actual professional student jazz band lol
Yeah jazz cannot be messed up mostly. It can be
that's why the vast majority of it is meaningless trash lol
I can confirm that when playing a classical piece, for every mistake you make the chances of you actually making a mistake increases dramatically.
FACT
Because of overwhelming pressure blocking you from doing the future notes
Also known as the cock-up cascade
For real!!!💀😭
Just turn it into Jazz Lmao
High school jazz competition, 15 year old kid new to bass, I played a bass solo once that I felt ashamed of. Two college judges approached me afterwards saying things like "that was off the reservation, you have real feel and daring" and "I love your direction, your originality."
I remained very very confused about it.
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this is exactly how i felt when i played bass in jazz band for the first time. i dont know how to read notes so i was going purely by ear and the whole time im think maaan im playing the wrong notes but at the end of class they were all like wow you are very good at pitch and good at playing along with us
at the end of the day i was confused but also very happy i didnt screw up on the first day i played in jazz band
@@layneburton7109 hehehe believe it or not going into college reading music was actually pretty hard for me. When I started band in 7th grade to the time I ended in 12th I had 4 different band teachers. I shit you not. I learned to play almost entirely by ear and by the feel of the music and for years no one said a whole lot about it. When I met my band professor he had me play and then he says "You learned to play music by ear didnt you?" I asked him how he knew that and he goes cause I can see by how your struggling since theres only so many people around you with a similar part. He said playing by ear is a very very valuable skill to have but I really really need to learn how to read music better. Yet I still managed to get a fulk ride scholarship to college.
i actually have to play an improv solo for the jazz band at the concert tomorrow and reading this, I feel a lot more confident
@@layneburton7109 omg dude when I was in grade 10 I got to audition for the senior jazz band normally for grade 12s because the bassists wanted to leave but needed a replacement and we were in the same music class. Well it wasn't a solo audition, I got to sit in during practice but it was a test to see if i was good enough and my stupid self played ALMOST THE ENTIRE PRACTICE WITH THE SHEET MUSIC UPSIDE DOWN BEFORE I REALIZED. I was so ashamed of myself but the teacher/bandleader came up to me after and told me I nailed it and very good 😆😂
Miles Davis once said: _It is not the “wrong” note you done that is important, but the one you’ll play just after that_
My guitar teacher said the same thing. If you hit a 'wrong' note and play the right one immedeatly it will sound like a transition
Angela from the office once said “Jazz is stupid! I mean, just play the right notes”
Angela was always my favourite
@@greenjimmydog Wise words
I had a stroke trynna read that lmao
"To play a wrong note is inconsequential, to play without passion is inexcusable ." - Beethoven
Is that proof that Bethoven was a jazz musician?
@@gritsonamission Quite possibly; jazz is a state of mind after all.
I can tell you one thing for sure. Improvisation was actually common, even before Beethoven's time. Mozart and his friend Clementi would play each other pieces and deliberate change things. Therefore, Classical performance and even the idea of composition was not as rigid as we tend to see it. This is why the uTube music "teacher" Adam Neelys gets so many things wrong. He claims to be progressive, but he constantly tries to push "Classical" people into one box and himself ("Jazz" musician) in another. Neely also made videos claiming that perfect pitch cannot be learn, yet seemingly hundreds of musicians and lay-people responded that they did, and that you can. Not to mention Adam Neely's rants on why we shouldn't tune to A-432 Scientific Tuning because it's "voodoo." Yet, A-440 concert pitch is entirely random and does not fit into mathematical patterns, sacred geometry, the Golden section, etc. Growing up in small-town New Mexico and Texas in the 80's kids would make fun of you listened to Classical. I was a music that simply did not exist. // On the other hand, as a pianist having studied in NYC, I noticed that Asian pianist's I'd hand hang out couldn't play without the music. Whereas I'd just sit at their piano and go thru some Chopin or whatever. And even if i got a note wrong, I'd just delay it or blend it into the mix! // Bottom line: Beethoven rocked! - _The Acoustic Rabbit Hole_ @theacousticrabbithole9608
@@A-432-ZoneThe 432 Hz thing genuinely is just BS though. Lowering the pitch makes it sound lower. Nothing mystical or special about it. 432hz music is literally just pitch shifted 31 cents and thats it
That's incredible, User. I'll add this insightful profundity to my notes immediately.@@Qwerty-g1b2o
This guy's so good he probably had to practice at hitting the notes wrong.
Probably
Thought the same thing 😂
It is called improvising, it’s a huge part of jazz.
Ohh this video you must like it
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Heck, thanks a ton for this video!
The note _after_ the "wrong" note determines if it really was the wrong note
The hardest part is actually the rhythm for me, notes that are accentuated by the beat sound really bad if they are "out". But if you play the same notes before or after the beat your in the clear. Think chromatic approaches and those 16th note semi tone slides into the correct chords. Playing them seems to be hugely dependent on the rhythm that said im not good at it so i havent had much success in freeform jazz yet.
Aha! That's the kicker right there!
Bill Evans quote?
In music class we learned to improvise and one of the first things we learned that when you hit a wrong note (scalewise), go down or up halfsteps until it sound right and BOOM.
J A Z Z
That's very true
"Your mistakes resulted in some of the darkest sounds in the universe" Is such an ominous line. I can't stop thinking about it
And then Van Halen rose up and busted out eruption 🤘
We don't need to talk about me practicing that way, my guy
What Song name???
And that's how metal was born
Scraibin 6
one time i messed up a jazz solo so bad and played so many wrong notes and i was so embarrassed but several people came up and told me afterwords that i had best solo there so that was cool i guess
@@greenstargin5321 (shhh!)
No.
@@kemigeorge6294 tf you mean “No.”
Yes.
“You’re never more than a half step away from a right note.” - Victor Wooten
if you use vibrato its almost like your hitting the right notes
thats where bending comes in B)
@@jalenp64 you're* lmao
Jacob Collier : hold my microtonal beer
@You're fake and gay Someone doesn't tune their snare
me: plays the wrong note
jazz instructor: interesting, so you borrowed a note from the relative minor to flat the 9th on that C7add9?
..........yes?
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How? I’m the drummer.
@@thecheeseman31415 my fucking God. Thank you for that.
Lmao
My parents saw the "If you make a mistake, just make sure you do it again." quote.
In 9 months, I won't be an only child anymore.
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My late jazz teacher always said “If you play the wrong note, keep going. What the audience don’t know, won’t hurt em.”
Jazz is all about mistakes and improvisation.
It don’t mean a thing, if it ain’t got that swing 🎵
duke ellington
Interestingly, my musical theater director told me the same thing, just with acting and stuff
Did he ever show up?
Rhythm is more important for a jazz solo. Hit the wrong note with correct timing, dynamics and inflection and it's all good! Victor Wooden is all about this.
Holy crap I played that last year in jazz band
High school band director: just play through it, the audience doesn’t know what it was supposed to sound like
My high school band director was actually a flaming Italian goblin and would go out of his way to demote snare players to bass drum or percussion if they were struggling, because that's the one thing the audience can hear go wrong (not like they could see us back there - he called my dad once because my shoes, in the very back row, were grey not black).
So 16 year old me was in for a treat when I spent weeks practicing a snare part and on the day of the concert, I was given a bass drum mallet and was told to switch off every other song with the 'demoted' bass drum player. Because apparently this teacher also had a thing where upperclassmen had priority over parts for the show, and he could care less that I was prepared. I asked to get another snare (we didnt bring our own) but it was a "too bad so sad, you'll play snare next year" kinda situation with him and I lost.
It was like saying "Hey you're great in my class but youre a freshman so you can't play the big boy instruments on stage in front of your parents who pay for your drum lessons"
I understand a lot of drummers kinda goof off cause theyre in the back or were forced to do band, but geez, this teacher was one anal motherfucker about perfection and discipline and 'its not always fair'. His shitty ways have probably scared off tons of good drummers in the process - after quitting band, I joined a way cooler music program outside of the school
@@ItsKam but... I bet you're an amazing drummer now. 🤷
I find it ironic how I went from playing mariachi type music (with trumpet) to jazz like (with sax) to metal (electric guitar) and I honestly prefer playing metal just sucks that my high school doesn't offer anything involving rock/metal
@@ItsKam My brother was in band in HS (we both joined in Middle School for the cool MS teacher, but I stopped after), and after about one year, the HS Band teacher got more control of it. He decided he HAD to "improve" the bands by forcing all band students to be in both Concert and Marching band. He didn't care your reasons for wanting one but not the other, but insisted the rule be enforced. Enrollment in band dropped, quality dropped, and to top it all off, he made them wear thin, skin-tight uniforms that had that weird shattered stained-glass pattern...
Meanwhile the song is like Jingle bells
No, seriously, this HAPPENS. I remember going to a regional competition with my high school jazz band, and I had an improv solo ready to go for our big set. One way or another, I ended up screwing up HALF of what I'd prepared, and I was all "Welp. At least I'm not planning to peak in high school." Then we got the notes back. I received TOP MARKS from the judges.
Edit: Yes, I did, in fact, PREPARE an IMPROV SOLO, which tells you pretty much everything you need to know about me in high school XD
Post some videos sometime, you’ve got me curious
Jazz is literally just gambling
I am ignorant. Can you prepare an improv solo beforehand?
@@danielc4267 You can! Here's how:
1) Listen to the actual piece several times while practicing
2) Latch onto a theme from the piece and play with the key, motion, beat, etc.
3) Find a version of that you like and stick to it until the day of the concert
4) COMPLETELY FORGET IT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CONCERT and give the judge A Look like "Yes this is ABSOLUTELY what I meant to do no I will not be accepting criticism that's your entire job isn't it F*CK"
Sounds like you have "Don't Stop" and "Keep Going" down pat - turns out those are the only rules!
In jazz, you hit a “wrong note” just move that interval up or down chromatically until you’re back in scale and you just had a bebop moment haha. People be like “dayum he just went outside AF!!” Whenever I do this moving an interval up or down chromatically thing I feel like Charlie Parker for a moment, minus the genius and heroin of course
So what you do instead of heroine?
I’m the same except not at all and I’m like Charlie Parker except without the genius.
I have a problem
@@MrKkdkk as someone who knows a few musicians it's probably copious amounts of Caffeine
@@Steampunk_Ocelot You misspelled cocaine
@@MrKkdkk preferably coke but im sure store bought adderall is fine if u can't get it :^)
I love your portrayal of jazz fans, so many people think we're these advanced sophisticated superhumans when in reality we're just weird unhygienic dorks who like weird textures and chord progressions
ya like jazz?
I... think I may be a jazz fan
@@aguyontheinternet8436welcome.
no one thinks of jazz fans like that
I am UNhYgIENiC
*hits a wrong note*
Jazz musicians: 𝓓𝓸 𝓲𝓽 𝓪𝓰𝓪𝓲𝓷
How did you get that font?
How do you do that font
@@twopaste thanks dude
Your pfp is perfect for that comment lmao
@@michn5711You are very s̶t̶u̶p̶i̶d̶ smart
As someone who is a classically trained musician, playing wrong notes intentionally is remarkably hard.
THANK YOU
Same. Classical music ruined me.
As a songwriter who presses record then improvises each layer, the misplayed notes have taken me places I didn’t expect... happy accidents... I follow where the music takes me, same when writing poetry... minimal grip on outcome
@@PsychoSk8r4bg And if I was less up my own ass when it comes to music, I probably could too 😭
I assume it's like trying to intentionally mess up signing a signiture you've signed for years
It didn't even sound like anything was wrong in the jazz portion.
Exactly
I think the "sound" of jazz is exactly those carefully placed wrong notes, but I'm not a jazz musician so it's just what it seems to me
@@TonyNaber I'm not a big jazzhead but I really think you're spot on
@@TonyNaber well, there is "clean" or casual jazz, generally known to be elevator or lobby music which usually aims to provide an easy listening experience and which has little to no "wrong" notes. The deeper you go from there into jazz, the more you will see people throw in these notes. They are like the spice in a meal. They make things more exciting and introduce more contrasts (dissonance+the usually following resolve into a more pleasing note) into the music.
At a certain point people just go to far for my taste, tho. Some jazz musicians forget that the "wrong" notes are supposed to be the spice, not the main meal...
@@DieserAIiasIstSchonVergeben For sure! th-cam.com/video/i9aftG6pybA/w-d-xo.html
Bob Ross: There are no mistakes, just happy accidents
Jazz: There isn't any mistakes or happy accidents, just improvisation
classical: you made the last mistake of your life you piece of sh-
😮 I am improve
It's official, the SCP has the concept of Jazz in custody...
In jazz, we call those the spicy notes
😂
Yess
nice profile pic u got there
In classical. We call those notes a threat to national security, & will not be tolerated.
Antonio Barbosa No, but I guess he may have been part of what started me using that more commonly to describe music
*plays a wrong note*
“Time to play a chromatic scale.”
time to superimpose pentatonics starting from the sharp fourth
Don’t @ me like that
Omg too relatable
...and hold the highest tone as long as possible 🤣
And if you play a series of wrong notes, just repeat the note sequence in a series of other unrelated keys and call it "modal transposition"
"To play a wrong note is insignificant; to play without passion is inexcusable."
Ludwig van beethoven
Sounds like he knew a thang or two about music. 🤣😂😁
Seems like a cool dude ( ｰ̀֊ｰ́ )✧
Citation from a time he was not „classical“ but temporary 😉
*Beet* me to it
Yes...it's because he was deaf
As a classical singer, I love this! For anyone worried, most are very forgiving in classical settings. We know it’s hard stuff and that there are so many cogs in the machine, that as long as you don’t panic and get back on track, no one will ever remember the mistake, much less mention it.
Unless your mistake is coming in early during the Surprise Symphony
After learning that "jazz is all about the notes you are NOT playing" sometimes I lay awake at night knowing that I am currently, and can never not be, playing jazz...
unless you play every possible and impossible note simultaneously
@@Pihsrosnec that is impossible by definition, isn't it?
Oh god, we cannot scape it
Talk softly when mentioning it's name.
*It hears*
When you understand that in life, as you not play an instrument, you currently always play jazz.
Jazz is comedic
*folds up mouth just to play every note on trumpet*
@@cobaltordinaire5219 my God, you're a virtuoso
As a professional jazz audience member I can verify we all wear sunglasses at all times. Even when sleeping.
Haha yes we do, at all times. I only had my glasses off in my TH-cam profile pic because I was listening to classical music
I heard the jazzers grow their sunglasses when they reach maturity.
Professional means you get paid. So you get paid to be in an audience?
@@mrtimo3822 Yes.
@@Unknownmonkey13 Paid in jazzilicious pleasure
“There are no accidents”
- Master Oogway, Jazz connoisseur
Technically, Oogway said, "There are no accidents."
@@LJ_Dude Thats what I said ik what u trynna prove >.>
@@CausticSpace When I saw the comment it said "There are no mistakes."
@@LJ_Dude Lol he edited it and then he said that's what he said from the beginning 😂
Only happy mistakes
-Ross Bob
I can testify for this. I missed ONE note and my piano teacher said “that is absolutely horrendous” 😭💀
Was it the ending note?
Then you simply had a bad piano teacher.
Once, my piano teacher told me: "If you play a wrong note, at least play it on tempo" hahaha
Hahahah
hahaahhahah
My math rock artists would like to disagree
9 MM lol they play in tempo, they just play in different time signatures than 4/4
@@m.webster1261 epic fail
I remember one time while performing a jazz piece, for some reason I got ENTIRELY lost. I had a rough idea of the melody so I just went off muscle memory for a little bit and prayed to god it sounded okay. When we finished I turned to my friend and said “Dude, I got TOTALLY lost for like eight bars there” and he said “You what?”
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA!!!!! Jazz, am i right?
I can’t imagine how hard it would be to *learn* a riff, however sometimes I sit down at the piano, choose a key, and just randomly improvise with no possible way of recalling whatever the heck I just spat out, and a sit down thinking, “Man that was great.”
Put a camera above pointing down to the keys? I dunno man
Ableton Live has a recall option. Its always listening. Like Apple/Siri just less sinister.
What the other said. So many awesome rifss lost to the ageis of timentune.
@@bootyshortsband they neutered and spayed me and put me here, at least I still got my wingspan on the overdrive channel.
Same
My uncle, who has a degree in classical piano, was once experimenting with jazz. He said “Watch this! You hit all the wrong notes, but on PURPOSE!!!” And it blew my mind XD
“They like the wrong notes”
Plays Tritone over and over again
Satan: “Yo waddap homie”
@You're fake and gay same, it reminds me of daniel in his king costume
Keep playing that, it sounds fonky bro
The Random Videos Guy throw in a bit of that left hand!
Classical music actually uses tritones (along with all kinds of other dissonances) all the time. Dominant 7ths contain tritones in them.
The difference between classical and jazz is that classical is more faithful to the written score, emphasizes voice-leading (counterpoint).
There is no wrong notes in jazz, just strange decisions
there is no mistake, only happy accidents
@@rivvie in jazz you gotta have opposites. you have to have dark and light. if you have dark on dark you have nothing. if you have light on light you have nothing
@@saulo5216 Simple, just have dark on light dark, and light on dark light.
Rivvie that’s what my parents said to me when they told me I was an accident. I’m still not sure about the happy part though 😂
@@saulo5216 basically be lightskinned
“I don’t know what notes i’m playing” -every jazz soloist ever
You don't know, you f e e l
@@TinNovaKiin I play the shapes and intervals I feel are pretty on my guitar when I solo jazz and yeah you really do just feel around. It's lovely
Trumpet player here - often when I'm improvising I have no clue what note it is because the fingering can be the same for notes close together in high registers.
well that is just categorically wrong. Unless you're fixating the entire umbrella of jazz into some cynical reading of free jazz
@@danielm-k7393 also a trumpet player here-. I'm not the most confident one and i just can't do a solo without freaking out and even in improvised solos I still get nervous for playing so bad infront of my classmates.
“To play a wrong note is insignificant; to play without passion is inexcusable.”
--Ludwig van Beethoven
that hits.
I'm glad the camera shakes every time he plays the wrong note, so that uncultured people like me know when it's the wrong note.
Oh, you are more familiar with metal?
@@erdenwurm7208 what does that even mean lol
@@bolt4685 tried to link uncultured to metal music - but the Joke didn't kicked ^^
@Erdenwurm you must not know that metal and classical are very closely related
@@JJPMaster Oh, it all refers back to classical music - I would say.
Metal -> Rock -> Rock`n Roll -> Jazz -> marching music -> classical music.
Kind of linear in theorie - of course it's not thaaaat easy in Reality
Not even joking, the wrong notes in the jazz solo sounded unironically great lmao
that's the magic of jazz, they sound great because they're not thrown inappropriately in context. If you highlight what you do properly, any note can do in jazz. It's actually a skill I've always found mesmerizing, and I still think Jazz is the hardest genre because of that. You either have it in you, or struggle to have it like slave, working and practicing theory
Victor wooten says, it is the wrong note is the one that gets your atention.
@@AM-we8hj you need to have it in you for any kind of music, jazz is not special in that regard
@@AM-we8hj Most musicians in my experience just run into a wall because they look too much at what others do and lack confidence in their own potential. They judge themselves in terms of limitations instead of what makes them unique from a positive frame of mind. So to me I don't think it's a question of "having it" and "not having it". But about whether you can learn to accept you who you are and have the courage to follow your instincts and see it leads, rather than trying to become someone else.
Well that's the point
When you hit a wrong note in classical: Years of academy training, wasted.
When you hit a wrong note in jazz: There are no accidents.
“Happy accidents”-Bob mothafuckin Ross
Shoon ‘Happy l i t t l e incidents’
It's f r e e j a z z
Only little happy mistakes...
669? I can't
Nothing will make you doubt yourself more than becoming a talented, classically trained musician
I genuinely didn’t like the jazz part until the “wrong” notes came in
the accidental notes made it so much catcher hhh
We ARE the audience in the video lol
I'm 100% the vibin' guy at the middle
ive never even liked jazz but shit was bussin'..... respectfully
@Tasty Jaguar im the other guy with no facial expressions
"I don't know what notes I'm playing"
- me writing music for 10 years with no formal training
I don't think I've seen a comment that describes me more perfectly in my life. I can't even sight-read or tell notes by ear.
Been writing music for a while j can only tell you like 3 notes
Highkey uses a tuning app;
Jep me too.. playing for over 10 years.. can't read music.. play everything by ear.. and can't even tell you what notes i'm playing. Atleast i know i use allot of power chords,hammer on and just single strings..
I grew up classically trained in flute, sooo when I took on guitar it was a little easier for me.
I was playing Lagrima then my teacher suddenly cut me off and asked me “was that a Jazz version of Lagrima?”
Now I know what exactly he was trying to say. 😂
Lagrima balls
@@maxortiz8795 😶🌫️✌️
I love lagrima it sounds so good :)
"Wait, it's all wrong note?"
"Always has been."
Lmao
🔫
FEAR THE 🦌
Yes it is
Primus guitar solos come in
"You were supose to balance it not throw it in darkness"
I felt that
Ironic with that username
He's got the high ground
The conductor had the high ground
Me too master Kenobi
@@williamvandergrift9741 Ironic, isn’t it?
Jazz is not an exercise in which notes to hit, but rather which notes not to hit.
PRECISELY. Play a note that doesn't fit the current chord, you WILL get a few glares. Play enough wrong notes and the boss will come tap you on the shoulder mid-set. If that happens you know it's time to leave the bandstand.
Classical contrabassi get off easy. The conductor throws batons and kicks music stands while screaming at the top of his lungs. "ALWAYS THE WOODEN CARTS! THEY ARE NOT INSTRUMENTS! BALL BREAKERS! ALWAYS LATE! YOU HAVE NO EARS, NO EYES, NOTHING AT ALL! MULE'S HEADS! YOU ARE DEAF! IT'S A SHAME! SHAME ON YOU! YOU HAVE EARS IN YOUR FEET! YOU ARE NOT MUSICIANS!" Then somehow everything comes together and you still have a job. (that was Toscanini btw)
Thus far more easy to play by ear then classical arrangements. On the other hand, ridiculous to write down... While you obviously don't need ears or an orchestra sittigng right next to you to write down classical arrangements.
I don’t know how he made it jazzy without swing, and it’s kind of the most incredible part for me.
One of the most import parts of swing is that you play the high-hat on 2 and 4, but the mad-lad made the backing track play on 1 and 3. And he still made the solo swing!
I’m impressed.
syncopation in the melody rather than the rhythm.
Play one note wrong: It’s a mistake
Play two notes wrong: it’s jazz.
Repitition legiti-
PocketLobster14 Adam Neely!!!!
lol
PocketLobster14 rundy abobe
Playing the wrong note once is like jumping the crashing plane without parachute, and improvising your way back to the right key on the right bar is like taking a parachute from a dead person that jumped before you ala Jazz Bond.
People who say there are no wrong notes in jazz have clearly never been in a highschool jazz band
Unless they compete in EE.
Everyone knows high school jazz is the squarest of jazz, except for junior high and elementary school jazz
You could only have one note continuously for an entire song, and highschool bands will still struggle with it.
@Pottic Harrir in a big band arrangement that's not the case
@Pottic Harrir that's not true. there was a person who was an entire page off, and nobody noticed. the person had no idea the entire time either. shows that the person doesn't know what the heck is going on, and neither does anyone else lol. the person "thought" they knew what they were doing, and was completely clueless in reality.
When Jazz professionals play a wrong note, it's like them taking a wrong turn on their way home. But, instead of turning back they keep driving on that road until they find their way home. So, they eventually turn the wrong note into a right note. So it sounds like the mistake was supposed to happen, to get to their destination.
I'm not at that level. I'm learning jazz guitar and I'm the type to drive in backwards and try and take the right road, when I make a wrong turn.
Actually, this is a pretty accurate analogy...
My dude you keep it up you will be great some day
my only advice is trust no one in jazz. A lot of people are just really bad at improvising and they'll say that some horrible licks were intentional while they simply couldnt do them better
Does this mean I have potential to be a jazz musician if I get lost going home?
@@nolanfahey8191 Only if you know how get back on track on the wrong turn.
The reason why I love jazz. It actually has some heart and soul in it. Creativity is actually encouraged.
I would argue classical music has a lot of heart and soul too. But the (incorrect) stereotype is the opposite
(I love both styles btw)
Ya like jazz?
@Reagan B I'd say classical has a lot more intentional emotion into it, while jazz has more off the top passion
@@reaganb6013except for auditions and competition
This is inaccurate in classical music stereotype, i do have red about the use of tritones banned in the old times. Actually Beethoven used it in the Trio 2nd subject of the 2nd movement Moonlight Sonata. So ye after Baroque
"Yeah, do some more of that!"
"ahaha, I dont know what notes I'm playing"
That killed me. 10/10
its 5am i heard that and burst out laughing my parents woke up
"If I play the wrong note seventeen times in a row, is it still a wrong note?" -- Tom Morello
No
But why 17?
@@jed5918 hellifino. It was just something he said in a Masterclass lecture on songwriting
Tom Morello, my favorite jazz guitarist
dAVie504
Jazz is the Bob Ross of music generes. We don't make mistakes, we make happy little chromaticisms.
Amen!
Indeed~
69 likes. Nice.
We make happy little chromosomes
Unless you play drums
I once sent this video to my “Music Appreciation” teacher. And yes, that’s a real class, I took it because I thought it would be easy. The assignment was on differences between classical or jazz and I just sent this video along with whatever bullshit I wrote. She said she loved it and thought it was great for illustrating some of the differences between them. That class was one of the easiest As I’ve ever gotten.
Those listening tests were ridiculously challenging for us in Cleveland, even if you studied heavily! Our teacher at Case Western had to grade the midterms and finals on a curve because the average score was approaching fail, and these were mostly conservatory students from nearby Cleveland Institute of Music.
Bro I’m in a jazz band and I haven’t learned the actual notes, I’m improving and the director doesn’t know it. She told me to play louder...
same-
Dont you have to audition?
This sounds fake ngl
@@LiterallySoManyBears when i joined my highschool jazz band as a guitarist, being i was the only one who asked to join, i was automatically taken in. Didnt know how to read notes only tabs but i somehow got away with it for 3 years lmao
@@kotahmerrill6305 I get where you're coming from. I play Bari Sax in Jazz Band which I know the notes for. But I play the piano by ear. I just memorize the song then figure it out by playing.
i didn't even hear the wrong notes in the jazz part lol
Me neiherrrr they're perfectly calculated they're not wrong at all just altered
Wrong notes in jazz just make it better (with a skilled musician of course)
Exactly lol!
That's the joke. Jazz doesn't have set notes, you just play whatever.
It was all of them
Me, a jazz bassist: I hear no wrong notes
Wrong notes are the spicy ones.
@Bronzethelegend36 4 that's cool! Do you play in standard or in a different tuning?
To be fair you don't hear notes at all.
@@LortOfTheStones~ wiggly air~
there’s wrong notes in playing jazz bass?? who knew bro
As a bassoonist who almost never dabbles in jazz. It’s drives me insane how little and how much sense jazz makes.
“Yea do more of that.”
“I have no idea what notes I’m playing.”
10/10 👌
Best way to play jazz!
The best part about jazz, especially as a bassist: it's mostly just made up on the spot mixed in with some scales.
I like how realistic it is, once you make 1 mistake, it doesn't stop
mistakes start coming (and they don't stop coming)
Jokes are on them, I was probably never even playing the correct time signature
Jazz is kind of like being an alcoholic...all it takes is the first wrong note...
And then it starts sounding really good lol
It's very much more relatable if you learn by muscle memory rather than sheet music
You always crack me up when you do vids like this. Well done.
"The first mistake is an error, the second mistake is bad playing. From the third mistake onwards it's called Jazz "
If I take this literally, all I do is bad playing lol.
@@99xara99 shut up you jazz genious!!!
@@99xara99 shut up you jazz god
@@99xara99 Then play as terribly as you feel like playing, just make sure to enjoy yourself.
by this, all i make is god tier jazz. i cant play any instruments.
To be fair tho playing “wrong notes” well in jazz takes a lot of skill. Throwback to middle school jazz band where there were wrong notes but less skill lol
I assume the hard part is 'covering it up'?
RaRaRasputin I think that the hard part is playing wrong notes coherently
This comment reminded me of Forward March by Pat Metheny, the best track LOL th-cam.com/video/HR8GpFtVJWg/w-d-xo.html
@@rararasputin8608 they didnt quit they wanted his head
@@rararasputin8608 It's more that you can't just play the wrong notes, you have to either play the "right" wrong notes (i.e., substituting the original note for a different one that also fits well there) or taking the wrong note you played and running with it and spinning off into playing your own thing that still fits with the original melody.
" I don't know what notes I'm playing."
-Charles Berthoud, Pro bassist
lol
Children: *reading this comment with giggles*
Adults, all pros at something: if you only knew... if you only knew...
This was by far the best part.
Yes you do... you do know what notes you're playing. Don't lie to me. That is DANG GOOD JAZZ.
i was once in a school talent show, playing isabellas lullaby but i couldnt quite hear the piano i was playing, the notes and the pedal were so soft it was scary to play it. At one point i forgot the melody (since my playing is mostly by ear) i took my hands off the piano and begin to hit some notes i remembered (improvising without noticing it) then at some point i could hear the faint piano and kinda work it out till the end. Luckily my classic pianist teacher wasn't there, he would've had a heart attack. But the people didnt seem to notice my error (well my family did) but my classmates and other teachers told me i played beautifully. But i think i sounded like crap- since im classically trained, at least they didnt make fun of me? i guess
One of my favorite quotes by my favorite musicians is “I just know how I feel, not how it feels.” Meaning you could be up there, playing your heart out, and thinking that you’re absolutely bombing, but to the audience, it could sound like the best thing they’ve ever heard. When you’re playing on a stage, in the moment, it is borderline impossible to discern how it sounds to the people out there. I remember at an open mic jam, I was playing She’s So Heavy by the Beatles, and I thought we all bombed. But the guy who runs the jam, came up to all of us after and told us this is why he runs the jam, and genuinely thought it was one of the best things he’d ever witnessed at that jam. So I try to remember that when I’m playing, all I know is how I feel I’m the moment, and it’s really totally irrelevant to how it actually sounds
One of the best Solos I ever played on sax was when I straight up forgot the key and just went mad hitting random notes.
Probably sounded awful, but all my musician friends found it hilarious! They noticed my panicked face, followed by the Screw it shrug straight into 500 chromatic notes in 5 bars. Fun times
Wish I'd have seen that! hahaha
That sounds like the best thing ever 😂 and props to them! That’s a great bunch ya got there, don’t ever lose em 🤍 good on ya man!
Sounds like sax. Just throw in a few trills and some weak growls and ur good.
Sounds like every time I try to play piano without any sheet music
You my friend just played free jazz
It’s easy for blues, if you hit a wrong note just bend it😂
Yeah you guys have it easy, you guys don't have to pick your wrong notes intentionally, informed by an extensive knowledge of what notes would sound good in certain contexts and why, you guys can just pick from any note you know is wrong and bend it lol.
That only works on electric guitar. 🤣
*sad piano noises*
@@kipmi9608 you can always use an electric piano with a pitch wheel lol
@@HyenaFox sound bad when you dont do it right
"if you hit a wrong note in jazz make sure you hit it again."
Repetition legitimizes.
Repetition legitimizes.
@@MasterNeiXD Repetition legitimizes
Epstein didn't kill himself
Epstein didn't kill himself
Playing Bourrée in E minor on a 6 string bass is just incredible.
But Jaco only needed four stings
Nothing incredible about that
I remember in jazz class my teacher said "as long as it grooves its okay"
Took me a while to find out why until now XD
It doesnt have to be perfect, you just gotta ~vibe~ with it and its okay
“Music is just scales, except jazz, jazz is the wrong scales.” -some guy who made music ig idk.
Actually, scales makes up a majority of Jazz. Major or Natural Minor scales, Harmonic/Melodic Minor, etc
In fact, that's all a solo is. A good solo will follow the Chord changes (with tasteful) embellishments. A bad solo will ignore that and play whatever. It's required to know the scales (Example being if I want to improv over C7(#9), I should know the Blues, Mixolydian, etc)
Snavels
NEEEEEEEERDDDD
But thank you your comment was very informative
@@adwitatherealadwita I absolutely am a music nerd lol. (Jazz bassist, pretty much all I do is scales!)
Snavels
Jazz bassist eh? I'm more precision bassist.
@@adwitatherealadwita haha, I also play different genres (funk, rock, metal (yeah metal has bass lol))
I actually mainly do jazz on my Upright.
“And now, Winston’s dead... and his blood is on your hands.”
Sad sad Winston.
Winstons been hit
I like the rain effect... didnt make any scense but it mad it more sad.
RIP Winston
In jazz there is no necessary perfection, only funky times
A fellow performer once said to me:
"When you play a wrong note, just play the next one louder!"
I said "What if that note is still wrong?"
"Play the next one even louder!"
And thus, Heavy Metal was born.
@@0x777 Specifically, Slayer
@@0x777 how do you get
0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0 wrong?
@@Pengulin You know you're talking to a bass player?
Hold my beer.
@@Pengulin is that a question that really needs to be asked?
Jazz musicians: people like when we play everything wrong!
Punk band members: *amateurs*
Some post-hardcore bands and no wave bands can be considered jazz punk
It's more like the reverse imho if you consider some of out there free jazz stuff. But yeah all music is connected
Avant garde: there is no wrong or right. Just music.
Me, a drummer for both: *Laughs in wrong*
I know a really small punk band here in California (that doesn't play together much anymore) and some of the songs used some really irregular chords that kind of shouldn't sound right.
Problem is: I never noticed until the bassist told me. It just sounded like some good-ass punk rock to me.
“To play a wrong note is insignificant. To play without passion is inexcusable.”-Beethoven
Good quote
The audience is too hip to notice mistakes, no like is sounding sweet dude, keep rolling along 😎
Yep n I think that’s about right 😎
n u made mistakes n we couldn’t hear them 😎
Keep playing until tune is over, n we can’t hear mistakes, n best bet is beers a little not cold enough 😎
Something i always tell people getting into theatre: "If you forget your lines or blocking, just make something up and try to recover the scene. The audience doesn't know the script, so they'll only know you messed up if you freeze."
My older brother did this himself once when someone started a scene too early. He walked out after them and ad-libbed a scene until everyone else got onstage. The audience didn't notice a thing.
Jazz: play wrong notes all you want - just play them confidently!
Sounds like a "Monkism." 🍷🍸🎹🎹🎹
Strong and wrong baby!
A wrong note played right isn't really a wrong note is it ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Aidan Xavier fax
@@Tomatohater64 i mean you're right but more like close to right.. Havent tried playing jazz on bass but on piano its little more sketchy :)
I just love how he downplays his jazzplaying as if he's just playing random notes
Yea I was expecting Jazz guitar like he was playing but with clear blunders. That was very structured jazz and I was expecting more freeform jazz with the player still remaining constant between skits as well as the audience and when he hit the "wrong" note in jazz looking up in trepidation to his surprise to see the audience ohhing and awwing or just nodding their heads or snapping.
to be honest when i write music i play randomly at first and record it so i can edit together parts i like and learn what i played so i can rerecord it on a guitar with new strings and with better timing.
ItS lItTeRaLlY jUsT tHaT
Classical: “you shall hang for that” Jazz: “you can hang with us”
Nice
Sayori: "You can hang with me"
This is underrated.
Shoot, how many have the Classicals hang over the years ?!
Underrated comment
I learned music on the cello, played for 4 years, it was all very structured. Then circumstances forced me to learn bass guitar and eventually drop the cello. Eventually I wanted interesting parts, so I joined the jazz band, which was one of the best decisions I have ever made. Sure I still stress out over mistakes, but I’m nowhere near the perfectionist I used to be. I can even do a bit of improv now! Not in front of a crowd, but i can do it. The change has affected the rest of my life too, and im taking risks I never would have taken before. Hell, I asked my crush out on Valentine’s Day, he said no, and I didn’t even get emotional about it. All in all, im glad I was forced out of orchestra, and im glad I watched this video that allowed me to make this connection
Okay Joseph
cool cool
Choose your Charles:
Charles Berthoud
Charles Classical Music Teacher
Charles Classical Audience
Charles Jazz Audience
I choose Charles MC at Jazz Club
@@ethanpatrick9947 Superb taste, Nathan. We need to bring back the Half Note.
classical teacher/kenobi
Charles jazz audience (middle)
@@pollotenders5329 notice he has a green hat and the one holding a mic has a red one. Super Mario and Luigi?
Playing the "right" notes requires practice, playing the "wrong" notes in a way that makes them sound right requires knowledge of music.
All 12 notes WORK. You just have to learn more scales aside the Major scale.
Harmonic min................melodic min
Harmonic min b2 melodic min b2
Harmonic min #4 melodic min #4
Harmonic min b5 Melodic min b5
Harmonic min b2m b5 Melodic min b2, b5
well....even Loc b4 ( the super duper alter scale)..gets borning N all that
jazz...( I hate Jazz),,You CANT play the WRONG CHORD Either.
In other words...you can also alter any chord to whatever..
from whatever chord degree within the 12 notes.
V-I......G7 into C Maj
ii, V, I D min G7 , C Maj
bII, V , I ...D Maj7 G7 into C MAJOR
or the A melodic min verion ( from the relative minor)
ii, V, i .....B min E7 into A min
or the C Harmonic MAJOR
I, iv, V C Maj F min G7 into C Major
or
C Maj F min Ab Maj7 G7 into C Major
or
A min...G Maj F Maj E7 into A min
or
A min G Maj F Maj E7 into A Maj7 D Maj7 E Maj7 C# min F# min
B min G Maj F Maj Ab Maj6 G min C min D7 E7 into A min/C MAJOR
OneEye Monster looks like I have a lot to learn
But by then is it still the "wrong" note ? 🤔
@@Jester-15 it's not really kinda
Museee..... They do it great
I'm a classical musician and I can say that this audiance is not exaggerated.
@Sparticus Booker It's just a joke, son. Calm down.
Sparticus Booker If you make a mistake as a lion tamer your biggest concern is not the crowd
@Sparticus Booker Vladimir Horowitz, japan, 1983
@Sparticus Booker holy cow so toxic! More content bois let's start an argument!
@Sparticus Booker why so salty
My mother’s piano teacher told her, “If you play a wrong note, play it with confidence! Then people will think you did it on purpose and that you’re making a bold modification to the song!” 😆
This perfectly captures how and why I hated piano when I was little being classically trained, and then how I fell in love with it later in life when I became jazz inspired
You know the band where i was i played keyboard and guitar (just in auxiliar sounds) but we played rammstein gorillaz 80 pop music coldplay etc and other keyboardist were upset with me for beign a novice but played very well the synth songs strings etc the things i use to play were too easy but sounded very good and the guy in charge of us told me , I like more having you in my band that all those "profesional guys" almost student musicans are a bunch of arrogant idiots they know how to play but they dont know about team work.. making impossible working in a band like us.. i always tone the guitar and bass of my band mates and we were very good friends today the singer that was our leader is dead he is no more in this world he use to sing very very well
I’m glad he’s getting his money’s worth out of that wig.
Ending Ur no reply career
Mc Donalds And I appreciate that lol.
I am also getting my worths from seeing him rock that wig!
@@mcdonalds4393 Yay! Humans being human! Y'all are amazing. Love and best vibes always. 💙💚💜
Hahahh
Jazz is the Bethesda of music: " It's not a bug, it's a feature"
Enough patches and it becomes prog-rock lmao
Lmao!
I just clicked through to this video from a video about Fallout 76 so this comment is too real.
It just works
I hate the sound of jazz sry
I remember watching this a few years ago before I knew anything about bass and was only doing piano. Now that I follow Charles as a Bassist, this video is even more funny.