Philosophy in the Islamic World | Prof. Peter Adamson | Talks at Google
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- Peter Adamson is Professor of Philosophy King's College London and LMU Munich, whose primary areas of interest are late ancient philosophy and Arabic philosophy. In addition to his research he is the host of now more than 300 episodes of the highly popular "History of Philosophy" podcast. Talks at Google welcomed him to talk about the Philosophy in the Islamic World.
In the history of philosophy, few topics are so relevant to today's cultural and political landscape as philosophy in the Islamic world. In this talk, Adamson explores the history of philosophy among Muslims, Jews, and Christians living in Islamic lands, citing a diverse range of philosophers from hundreds of years, and discusses the relation of Kalam, the islamic theology, to modern philosophical studies.
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"You cover female philosophers not because your want to be politically correct, but just because they are there" -- this is the right spirit! I like it very much.
There are six Sunnah of drinking water .
1.First tell Bissmillah.
2. Seeing the water and drink water.
3. be seated then drink water .
4. Use right hand for drinking water .
5.drink water with three breaths.
6. Finally tell Allhamdulillah.
Our writing will be useful only if you comply
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53:40, Exactly. A non-Muslim is bound to have their own assumptions, misconception, misunderstanding, lack of contextual knowledge, different perspectives and approachs and a bunch of other bias's. But accepting you are not perfect makes you more acceptable then those who think, in their ignorance and lack of knowledge, they know everything about Islam, its culture, its scholars and what it has given to the world.
Why ISLAM HAS MANY TASFIERS? HADDITHS? CAN'T QUERAN STAND BY IT'S SELF? ANY MUSLIM THERE?
@@marz6588 yes it does
@@marz6588 التفسير عمل إنساني ، ولأي نص مشهور تأويلات وتفسيرات متعددة. لذلك فالقرآن الكريم أيضا أحاطت به تفاسير كثيرة. أنا كمسلمة أقرأ القرآن مباشرة وأفهمه لأنني أتكلم العربية، ولأنني متخصصة فيها. لكن شخص آخر قد يحتاج تفسيرا لفهم المعاني الغامضة بالنسبة له.أعتذر لم أستطع جوابك بالإنجليزية
@@learnarabicwithmaria sorry I don't read arabic🤣🤣
Any religion that feels the need to cover women's faces because of frail male egos is bound to fail. All religion will fail considering it's all made up, yours just happens to be particularly disgusting.
Ibn Khaldun WAS and IS the Father of Modern Sociology! Why not give the man the credit which is current. He is not just a "Historian" - Very interesting talk, the tender Islamic belittlement and attempt to bewilder your audience is apparent. If you want to know about Islam, consult a Muslim, this is a basic rule of thumb for those reading this.
To anyone who don't even bother to watch the video & criticize on how Professor Adamson is an Islamophile. Mind you so far he also covers (in his podcast) :
Classical:
1. Pre-Socratic
2. Socrates, Plato & Aristotle
Late Antiquity
3. Hellenic (mainly the Stoic, Skeptic & Epicurean)
4. Neoplatonic (Plotinus)
5. Greek Church Fathers (Augustus, Boethius)
Islamic World (he doesn't use "Islamic" or "Arabic" only because the philosophers also involved Jews & Christians and they also write not only in Arabic but Hebrew & Persian too) :
6. Formative Period (that is before Avicenna)
7. Andalusian (this one contains a lot of Jewish philosopher if you're interested)
8. Eastern Tradition (this one is after Avicenna. Avicenna is what Aristotles is to the Classical period & Plotinus is to the Neoplatonist or Platonist since that's what he called himself)
Latin Christendom (in which he covers currently)
9. Early Medieval (Eriugena, Abelard, Hildegard but most people would probably recognize Anselm)
10. 13th Century (Aquinas, Scotus)
11. 14th Century (Dante, Ockham)
He also cover the Indian philosophy. As you can see, he not only cover philosophy in Islamic world but the whole history of western philosophy (without any gaps as he like to say lmao) and none of them are biased and are scholarly researched.
It is fine to criticize on a religion (can't really blame, it's easy to succumb to a simplified view of the world).
But to criticize an actual scholar who contribute to the field and society without much benefit for himself (he has a podcast in which you can listen to him discuss the history of philosophy for free), who is not just some pop-sci writer is just a shame. You go to philosophy 101, you won't find any of this material since it's really specialized areas & here's a guy who's giving it away for free.
He do does some self-promotion which I can't really blame considering the amount of stuff he gave for free. (so far around 300 episodes)
Kudos & respect to Professor Adamson.
Peter Adamson how can I listen his audio lectures? Any link?
Peter Adamson secondly I need to ask one question with him related to Islamic philosophy. How can I ask?
Peter, when you were asked about African philosophy you went over the Maghreb and Egypt. Are you hinting that African philosophy stops at those places? If no, would you mind naming a few philosophers from sub-Saharan Africa (first time seeing your talk and I would like to check your podcast).
Good question. Perhpas he will reach that at some point if the podcast is still going. Notice there is nothing about China in there either. He'll get to it eventually, I think. I have just started listening to it and can't stop! :D
Fool not Philosopher. To be honest the presenter himself had a lot of biased in him and try to justify a lot of wrongs of history, his whole speech was subtly undermining the Islamic contribution and had the cheek to suggest it is over stated and Jews and Christians made more contributions to Islamic philosophy. the way he spoke about Iran or should i say what is called Iran today was very telling too.
He is obviously Jewish with a chip on his shoulder.
Typical example he says Jewish philosophers in Islamic Spain but then when living conditions become difficult for Jews they moved to Cairo, well why did it become difficult for Jews wasn't the Christian Spanish Inquisiton! and why would the jews move to another muslim country and not europe, Muslims and Islam never had a problem with anti semitism and jews lived under muslim rule freely and flourished, Europe was the oppositie. But People like this idiot professor gloss over that. His subtle undermining is cunning.
I respect Prof. Peter Adamson so much because he discusses his topics as enthusiastically as possible, with a great sense of humour and consideration to his listeners. His podcasts have contributed to as much as half of my experience of philosophy, and they are my recommendation to beginners. Thank you sir.
Refreshing to watch these kind of talks. Boy, does the IT crowd need basic notions of Philosophy, History, etc. I would argue the world would be a better place if the techies had even a basic notion of some of the Humanities or anything else than IT..
"Have you tried switching it off and on again?" - René Descartes
Lmao this is such a bs. From my experience, STEM people have a much better understanding of humanities than humanities people have of any STEM topic. Especially outside of western cultures, for economic reasons STEM is where the most brilliant kids go to which results in this situation where the "IT crowd" is 80% proficient in humanities and 90% proficient in STEM as opposed to humanities crowd being 90% proficient in humanities and 5% proficient in STEM. Average techie person have a much better capacity of logical thinking which results in much better aptitude for philosophy. There is a reason why ancient philosophers are all "techies" of their own era.
@@sk8erbyern 🤣
The fact that people are disliking this (although not surprising) just tells me that people aren't even listening to this talk or probably don't know who is talking. Prof. Adamson works in the history of philosophy are quite brilliant, his podcasts on Islamic Philosophy which I know best, has not even been attempted at the level of scholarly detail he goes into (again for podcasts, it has been in papers/books/journals). In none of his work, no matter if he is talking about classical philosophy, indian philosophy, islamic philosophy, christian philosophy or medieval philosophy have I seen him overly biased. It's quite interesting that people have disliked it so much, but again not surprising unfortunately. If you want to criticise Islam then fine, go ahead, but don't go round disliking actual scholars who are doing important work.. you know.. critically analysing the historical record..
imaginationscene thank you for sharing. I was never aware of this mans work. I thought I dove deep into philosophy and he's making all sorts of connections for me. I didn't know about the Spain Christian and Islamic exchange in 1200 and then never giving credit to Islamic philosophy after that. I will look deeper into his podcasts! I always thought Christians would appreciate Islam as the Quran confirms Christians as people of the Book, Jesus as a messiah, and the Gospel being the directives for the Christians. But there's a major disinfo campaign to disconnect the 3 Abrahamic religions
Exactly!
The Muslim community is the first in the world in behavior and integration - Islam leads to the best in reality and behavior - the increasing turnout from celebrities and the public from the West and their refusal to abandon Islam despite the deliberate linking of terrorism to Islam from time to time - to confirm that Islam leads to a better reality - this
Facts that lead you to learn about Islam from your reality or on the Internet. Thank you
"Kalam" doesn't mean "word", it means "speaks" or "talks". KALAM in philosophical sense is more like a "discourse"
Shortcoming of translation but not much erratic that it change course, K L M, is root for speach or wording, but actual meaning 'in context' is argument i.e. wording of ideas and reasoning them and providing reasons nullifying any counter ideas
মেডিসিন জনক ইবনে সিনা ইঞ্জিনিয়ারিং জনক আল জাজারি প্রযুক্তি জনক আল জাজারি মেকানিক্যাল ইঞ্জিনিয়ারিং জনক আল জাজারি রেবটিকস জনক আল জাজারি টয়লেট জনক আল জাজারি ইলেকটিসিটি জনক আল জাজারি জল ইলেকটিসিট জনক আল জাজারি আধুনিক কম্পিউটার জনক আল জাজারি রেপিজেরটর জনক আল জাজারি ওয়াশিংমেশিন জনক আল জাজারি মিউজিক বানড জনক আল জাজারি ঘড়ি জনক আল জাজারি আধুনিক বিজ্ঞান জনক ইবনে হাইথাম পদার্থবিজ্ঞান জনক ইবনে হাইথাম আলেক বিজ্ঞান জনক ইবনে হাইথাম বল বিজ্ঞান জনক ইবনে হাইথাম গতি বিজ্ঞান জনক ইবনে হাইথাম মধ্যকাষনশ শক্তি জনক ইবনে হাইথাম ক্যামেরা জনক ইবনে হাইথাম চশমা জনক ইবনে হাইথাম টেলিভিশন জনক ইবনে হাইথাম সিনেমা জনক ইবনে হাইথাম ফটোগ্রাফি জনক ইবনে হাইথাম মাগনিফাই গালস ইবনে হাইথাম রসায়ন জনক ibn Haihan উচ্চতর গনিত জনক ibn Haihan বিষ বিজ্ঞান জনক ibn Haihan অস্ত্র বিজ্ঞান জনক ibn Haihan পারমাণবিক বিজ্ঞান জনক ibn Haihan সালফিউরিক এসিড জনক ibn Haihan নাইটিক এসিড জনক ibn Haihan ইসটিল জনক ibn Haihan ইস্পাত জনক ibn Haihan আলমিনিযাম জনক ibn Haihan বই জনক ibn Haihan জীববিজ্ঞান জনক ইবনে নাফিস শরীর বিজ্ঞান জনক ইবনে নাফিস রক্ত সনচালনের জনক ইবনে নাফিস গণিত জনক আল খাওরেজমি বীজ গণিত জনক আল খাওরেজমি সংখ্যার আবিষ্কারক আল খাওরেজমি কম্পিউটার বিজ্ঞান জনক আল খাওরেজমি কম্পিউটার জনক আল খাওরেজমি ইন্টারনেট আলগরিদম জনক আল খাওরেজমি জোতিবিজ্ঞান জনক ইবনে ইউনুস ফিলেসফি জনক আল কিন্দি মিউজিক জনক আল কিন্দি ফারর্মেসি জনক আল বিরুনি মনে বিজ্ঞান জনক আল বালাখি অর্থনীতি জনক ইবনে খালদুন সমাজ বিজ্ঞান জনক ইবনে খালদুন ইতিহাস জনক ইবনে খালদুন রাষ্ট্র বিজ্ঞান জনক ইবনে খালদুন জনসংখ্যা বিজ্ঞান জনক ইবনে খালদুন মার্কেট অর্থনীতি জনক ইবনে খালদুন পরনীতি জনক ইবনে খালদুন হাসপাতাল জনক আল রাজি মেডিকেল কলেজ জনক আল রাজি প্লাস্টিক জনক আল রাজি গালস জনক আল রাজি শিশু মেডিসিন জনক আল রাজি রবার শিল্প জনক আল রাজি সিমেন্ট জনক আল রাজি সিমেন্ট শিল্প জনক আল রাজি আলকালি জনক আল রাজি সাবান শিল্প জনক আল রাজি সাবান জনক আল রাজি শাম্পু জনক দিন মুহম্মদ সার্জারি জনক আল জাহরাভি প্লাস্টিক সার্জারি জনক আল জাহরাভি মেডিসিন প্রযুক্তির জনক আল জাহরাভি দন্ত বিজ্ঞান জনক আল জাহরাভি ভূগোল জনক আল ইদরিসি পৃথিবীর মানচিত্র জনক আল ইদরিসি হিসাব বিজ্ঞান জনক নাসির উদ্দিন তুসি তিকনেমিতি জনক আল বিরুনি জামিতি জনক উমর খৈইহাম কৃষি বিজ্ঞান জনক ইবনে বাইতার বিমান জনক ইবনে ফিরনাস গালস শিল্প জনক ইবনে ফিরনাস অটেমেবাইল শিল্প জনক আল জাজারি ইঞ্জিন জনক আল জাজারি কার গাড়ি জনক আল জাজারি গাড়ির চাকা জনক আল জাজারি কলম জনক আল তামিমি কাগজ জনক ইবনে ইউসুফ কাগজ শিল্প জনক ইবনে ইউসুফ আধুনিক রাস্তার জনক আল জাজারি ধর্ম তত্ত্ব জনক ইবনে রুশদ সফটডীনকস ibn Haihan রকেট জনক টিপু সুলতান মিসাইল জনক টিপু সুলতান কফি জনক খালিদ আল কফি বাটারি জনক আল জাজারি পোশাক শিল্প জনক ibn Haihan রঙের জনক ইবনে কাসির ইস্কুল জনক খলিফা আল মামুন বাগদাদ পৃথিবীর জ্ঞান বিজ্ঞানের রাজধানী বাগদাদ যুক্তি বিজ্ঞান জনক আল ফারাবি আধুনিক স্কুল এর জনক আল ফারাবি বিশ্ববিদ্যালয়ের আবিষ্কারক ফাতিমা আল ফিহরি গ্রেট উচ্চতর ডিগ্রির আবিষ্কারক ফাতিমা আল ফিহরি আল কারাউইন বিশ্ববিদ্যালয় ফেজ শহরে অবস্থিত ইউটিউব জনক জাভেদ করিম এছাড়াও বিস্কুট কেক আধুনিক চা বাগান মানুষ এর লাইফ ইসটাইল এগুলো মুসলিম দের আবিষ্কার
কালাম মত বিজ্ঞানি মুসলিম বিশ্বের অলি গলিতে পরি থাকে
Fascinating. I should have not put the title though. Pretty misleading. It should've been "History of Philosophy Part 1" & "History of Islamicate Philosophy Part 2" for the second half.
Do u have instagram or other social media ? I'm interested and want to learn more.
@@mrezarifki check out his podcast Philosophy without any gaps historyofphilosophy.net/
Fool not Philosopher. To be honest the presenter himself had a lot of biased in him and try to justify a lot of wrongs of history, his whole speech was subtly undermining the Islamic contribution and had the cheek to suggest it is over stated and Jews and Christians made more contributions to Islamic philosophy. the way he spoke about Iran or should i say what is called Iran today was very telling too.
He is obviously Jewish with a chip on his shoulder.
Typical example he says Jewish philosophers in Islamic Spain but then when living conditions become difficult for Jews they moved to Cairo, well why did it become difficult for Jews wasn't the Christian Spanish Inquisiton! and why would the jews move to another muslim country and not europe, Muslims and Islam never had a problem with anti semitism and jews lived under muslim rule freely and flourished, Europe was the oppositie. But People like this idiot professor gloss over that. His subtle undermining is cunning.
Thank you for this ignorant comment. I had a good laugh
I can see he is trying to be fair and balanced and so we should try to be the same and show some respect not only towards him but towards knowledge in general. If we were paying attention then we should try to at least notice the fact that all those works were translated because people teamed up regardless of their religions... And here we are critizing this man as if there was no tomorrow...so how are we gonna retrieve the spirit of collaboration of those scholars when we can not even show a little bit of patience towards the speaker?
Now, about the contents of his talk, i want to mention that more accurate than 'islamic world' would be to say 'philosophy under islamic ruling' because for one thing not everything about that place and time was islamic, however the political system was indeed islamic and really the political context was defining of all the achievements in philosophy. In the religion of Islam knowledge is a duty for men and women equally and the role of the State is to encourage it and preserve it. Maybe one thing he should have mentioned is the fact that what brought all this to and end was the reconquest because the islamic ruling was replaced with the ruling of the Catholics who instead of knowledge and convivencia, brought persecutions and inquisition...never leave politics out of the picture please.
Also good thing how he mentions about the kalaam and the importance of theologians... Back in the day, most of scholars and philosophers were not atheist and this should be taken into account whenever we define who is a philosopher and who is not. We are very secular these days and we need to be aware of this whilst trying to understand the past.
The three most authentic philosophers of the Islamic-Arabic era : AlGhazali, Ibn Taymmyah, Ibn Khaldun.
We consider AlKindi, Alfarabi, Ibn sina, and Averroes, to some extent, not really creative nor authentic, they just vomited the greek tradition (which was useful) into our tradition. What we call “الأصوليون" were more creative philosophically because they didn’t accept the greek tradition and questioned its many aspects of their philosophy, and started to counter some of its doctrines.
N you wrong and how come you switch to great philosophers, by two none philosophers Ibn Taymmyah was theologian and Ibn khaldun was sociology or historian. You chose these two because they are Arabs and Al farabi and Ibn Sina are Persians. Man I hate Arabs
@@eastafrica7925 ibn khaldun is a philosopher. Yet for Ibn Taymiyyah never acclaimed as philosopher but his work on logic, can set him as one of great Muslim Philosopher
Zul Zarif you I don’t you understand Ibn Khaldun or Ibn Teyymiyah. Ibn Khaldun never dealt with philosophy but sociology. Ibn Taymiyah of logic it’s what is destroying the Muslim community. Without ibn Taymiyah there wouldn’t be Mohamed ibn Abdewahab and without those two we wouldn’t have Wahhabis and Salafis that killing innocent people.
@@eastafrica7925 For Ibn Taymiyyah I couldn't agree more, but rejecting his absolute is problem to me. Even though his critic on logic, he him self set up his own idea on "Kuliyyah" (which many agree). Yet for Ibn khaldun, his work on philosophical idea on philosophy of history, political ethics and his philosophy of state is enough to define him as philosopher. And his not only sociologist but a polymath. He may not interact philosophical stuff direct to Aristotle and so on but that doesn't decline that he is a philosopher, even plato set up his own philosophy about ideal state. Why won't ibn khaldun set as a philosopher seen his contribution on philosophical idea generally on state and historical studies is clear.
Zul Zarif We in same page and I agree with you Ibn Taymiyyah has written great books but those books comes with price. Yes you could say ibn Khaldun philosophy but he’s best know for his work of history and social studies.There were no social studies before Ibn Khaldun that’s why he’s be known as father of sociology
I follow you with great fondness /appreciation.. Wonderful presentation, useful historical Ideas, and very accurate textual data. Thank you Dr. Peter Adamson.
Skip to 21:30 for when he stops his "short introduction" everything before that is repeated about 3 times.
David thank you so much, jesus christ this guy is a lot.
thanks a lot i was looking for this
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!
If you consider this talk amazing, I suggest you do your own research and your head might just explode, this man waters down the facts, this is his Eurocentric bias on full blast. Astrology, Optics, Art, Chemistry, Mathematics, Philosophy and soap... all Islamic works for all of humanity to enjoy... curious why that entire era of history is never taught - It's all Columbus, Conquistadors and the Crusaders depicted as heroes, when in fact they were historically proven the worst tyrannical villains', please consider this carefully.
@@zain-elabideen2689 Your theology discriminates based on faith. For ex. are pagans "humanity"?
There are six Sunnah of drinking water .
1.First tell Bissmillah.
2. Seeing the water and drink water.
3. be seated then drink water .
4. Use right hand for drinking water .
5.drink water with three breaths.
6. Finally tell Allhamdulillah.
Our writing will be useful only if you comply
Pearls before Swine here. Beautiful lecture.
But sadly You are not mentioning about Imam Alghazali (R. A) how He The Honourable Soul decoded the pros and cons of philosophy
Read the book
Thanks for this presentation. I'll definitely check your podcasts!
I am tempted to say this ; Islam is a Universal Religion . Not a Universal Culture .
The emphasis in Islam is DIVERSITY and the enriching effect of diversity on Humanity as a whole .
It is a mistake to think of Islam as Arab or Arabic .
To Speak of the Islamic World is akin to Speaking of the Roman World at the time of the Roman Empire .
It is said that the reason it was revealed in Arabia is because they were a Tabula Rasa, people without culture or Civilization like their contemporary Persians or Byzantines ( Romans).
Islam is not a Philosophy .........it is a Revelation that leads to Gnosis and presents a modus vivendi flexible appropriate to an evolved Humanity . With the emphasis on Diversity and Freedom .
Mostly i see there are nasty and sentimental comments being put in against you, but i say the philosophical talk is not as boring as they have claimed. It touches good side of philosophy in the Islamic world, but at certain points it loses the spirit and waxes boring to the core. Interesting run into depth.
ou make a common mistake: Muslim is not Arabic or Arab, Islamic is not Arabic or Arab, you can say that even Muslim is not islamic. Even Al kindi was not Arab, how can he be the father of Arab philosophy?
I was wanting much more from this talk, you spent almost 50% of this talk promoting your podcast! Actually I am a bit angry that I wasted my time listing to this.
If anyone still reads this: do you also think that his voics sounds way different and deeper than in the podcasts? I wouldn’t recognize it
Probably different mic setup
Wow, 20 minutes in, and the actual talk hasn't started yet.
The actual talk isn’t in it at all.
I just wasted my 100mb downloading it in 360p and eating up 40% of mobile charge!
Hv too many to talk. But not today hope will be such energetic one day to talk through this channel
Wow, Fatema Mernissi is on the list of post-1200 CE Islamicate philosophers, and Muhammad Iqbal is not?! What kind of philosophy lecture is this? And you couldn't find female philosophers from Muhammad Akram's 40 volume biographical dictionary of female scholars?
He only wanted to push the point of 'the woman were oppressed' in his talk... he made his point and drifted away, alot of slight neo-liberal 'pokes' in this talk. If I felt like disecting this talk linguistically, he would be guilty of many cute slanders. This is expected, he is a teacher in a reputable school of academia, and academia has been managed for centuries by human garbage unfortunately.
In the one hour the least you talked about is Philosophy in the Islamic World, With all respect professor i think you need to dig more, Please visit "let's talk religion" he might be one of your students but he's 100 times better and more educated on this subject.
I really wish this talk had been better conceptualised. It is so dry and gives little for the exciting subject of pre-modern philosophy. It should have start with a brief retelling of a famous philosophical debate that arouses interest, skipped the self promotion, and described the social environment in which these debates are taking place. Why are people suddenly translating? What are the common points and where are different groups conflicting? How is religion not always a frozen category and do people agree or agree across religious lines too, or are they robots? If it was successful the self-promotion would be unnecessary as people would look you up.
It's not "islamic philosophy for dummies"
Not bad. Very informative and educational. Thanks professor and google.
skip to 11:24 to get passed him discussing why he titled the book the way he did.
profound but simple and clear.
I had high expectations for this talk, but the presenter spent some time just talking about him self and his podcast and some opinions...I was more interested about what kind of ideas and problems that philosophers of that time were discussing and that evolved...anyway for anyone who likes to see more on ideas like "Unity of being" and the "the soul" please check a great channel called "let's talk religion".
go to his podcast to find out
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Name dropping philosophy through the eyes of an adolescent.
Interesting video and very informative. However, the word "Kalam" in Arabic means "conversation" and not word; word is "Kalima".
Before 10minutes approaches, a fact : In the Years 800-1200 those who were preserving, distributing, translating and learning knowledge were those primarily in the Arab World aka Bahgdad - This is never taught in schools, as the schools are proprietors of institutional racism. Also, as those areas were under governance by Islamic rulers, those Jews and Christians of 'esteem' were in fact part of the circle of learning under direction of the ruler. Also, the Jews who 'moved' to Egypt knew the Muslims treated them justly, which is not reciprocated nowadays - there are endless mention of past Jewish Nations migrating to Muslim lands for protection due to others oppressing them, again, something to contemplate, don't let this man's fancy interpretations confuse you from the simplicity of the perfection of the Qur'an in fixing humanities personal and societal flaws! If you have never read this book or done some sort of algorithm executions on this book as an engineer, you are missing a huge part of learning unaware. #quran #haqq
I was excited to here about the topic, but there was very little "meat" to the talk. The first 21 min was intro, book plugs, and random musings on book names. The next twenty minutes weren't that informative. Anyone know if his podcast is scripted or is it similar to this talk's pace?
Walt Yates I believe the podcast is scripted to some degree, as it is often considerably detailed and very informative - I would recommend it. However, if you're interested in a briefer overview of Islamic philosophy then it might not be quite right, as it is very thorough and spends a very large number of episodes on this topic.
Instead, a radio 4 'In Our Time: Philosophy' podcast on Avicenna or Averroes (both of which feature Adamson as a guest) would be good, as they don't presume much knowledge on the subject but still make for an informative listen. Hope this is of some use.
Don't worry, it's scripted. I really do recommend his podcast, his format is usually the context in which the philosopher lives in, the argument or ideas they present and how it's influences (or influenced) other philosophers. So far he covered this period:
Classical:
1. Pre-Socratic
2. Socrates, Plato & Aristotle
Late Antiquity
3. Hellenic (mainly the Stoic, Skeptic & Epicurean)
4. Neoplatonic (Plotinus)
5. Greek Church Fathers (Augustus, Boethius)
Islamic World (he doesn't use "Islamic" or "Arabic" only because the philosophers also involved Jews & Christians and they also write not only in Arabic but Hebrew & Persian too) :
6. Formative Period (that is before Avicenna)
7. Andalusian (this one contains a lot of Jewish philosopher if you're interested)
8. Eastern Tradition (this one is after Avicenna. Avicenna is what Aristotles is to the Classical period & Plotinus is to the Neoplatonist or Platonist since that's what he called himself)
Latin Christendom (in which he covers currently)
9. Early Medieval (Eriugena, Abelard, Hildegard but most people would probably recognize Anselm)
10. 13th Century (Aquinas, Scotus)
11. 14th Century (Dante, Ockham)
Unfortunately (or fortunately) he hasn't covered the "modern" so you probably won't see any Analytic or Continental philosophers in the near future. After Latin Christendom he's going to cover the Byzantine next.
Tbh, I'm pretty grateful he doesn't only skim on the history (Most courses cover only Plato, Aristotle, maybe delve a bit on Augustus, Anselm & Aquinas then move straight modern philosophers like Spinoza, Hegel or Kant. To skip over the Islamic period or Latin Christian in Medieval Age is still fine. But to skip Plotinus is a sin considering he's the 2nd (1st is of course Aristotle) most influential philosopher before 19th century)
Btw, he also cover Indian philosophy in another podcast (with Jonardon Ganeri, hope I get his name right).
Although his format is more of understanding the intellectual & historical background of then said philosophers/movement/schools. Then, he'll discuss about the "meat" of each philosophers
A minor correction for the young lady who asked a question at the end... We Egyptian don't believe Egypt was under "Ottoman occupation" as you put it.
Jihad Abouhatab you always been occupied by none Egyptian until Nasir and Sadat. After Sadat Egypt been and still under America.
its not about what you believe, its about history
Occupation and territorial conquests are different. It's not about anybody's feewings. But the aparant difference between those terms.
You are right. Egypt were part of the empire not occupied. Even if the region was forcibly annexed, due to the people's treatment, it can't be classified as occupation
Many people believe that islamic ruling was imposed by force and that the Ottomans were running an empire but caliphate and empire are not the same thing. Also people should just look at things today, how many are becoming Muslims in the West... And who is forcing them?
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Islam promotes tolerance
لَّا يَنۡهَىٰكُمُ ٱللَّهُ عَنِ ٱلَّذِينَ لَمۡ يُقَٰتِلُوكُمۡ فِي ٱلدِّينِ وَلَمۡ يُخۡرِجُوكُم مِّن دِيَٰرِكُمۡ أَن تَبَرُّوهُمۡ وَتُقۡسِطُوٓاْ إِلَيۡهِمۡۚ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ يُحِبُّ ٱلۡمُقۡسِطِينَ
(Sahih International)
Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.
-Surah Al-Mumtahanah, verse 8
Islam promotes kindness
ۚإِنَّ رَحۡمَتَ ٱللَّهِ قَرِيبٞ مِّنَ ٱلۡمُحۡسِنِينَ
Indeed, the mercy of Allah is near to the doers of good.
-Surah Al-A'raf, verse 56
NOT EVERY MUSLIM IMPLEMENT ISLAM PROPERLY. Terrorist who tell they are muslim don't implement islam properly. To have better understanding about Islam please take closer look at quran and hadith. People can't simply conclude that Islam is cruel , agressive etc just by looking dozens of quran verses or hadith or by looking terrorist action. *Those are more than 6000 quran verses and more than 500000 hadith* . *If you want to know better about Islam, please learn all of those quran verses and hadith carefully. USE* *OBJECTIVE THINKING, NOT HATE.* This may take many years. Thanks
Can you comment kindly about the central threads which run across all these streams with either similarities or major differences they had or still have? Were they original thoughts or just borrowed ideas? Secondly trying to piece them together as a single or continuous story is an oversimplification or actually required as a fact. Thirdly, it is commonly said that there occurred a major series of errors where the works of famous philosophers were attributed wrongly and this error accentuated very misleading results. Is the third point carry some weight or just a wrong deduction. Thanks for such a wonderful presentation.
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Assalamu'alaikum warrahmatullahi wabarakatuh Habib..?
Ulama itu wirasatul abiya, dakwahnya menerangkan kitab suci "Al-Qu'ran" kepada jemaahnya,berkata sopan santun dan lemah lembut,ramah tamah dan penuh kasih sayang, bukan memgada-ada bercerita melantur kemana mana, kadang membelalakan mata dan ketawa, itu akan berdampak buruk kepada umat dan dirinya dalam beragama, sebagaimana dijelaskan Al-Quran surat ke : ( 3 ) ayat 18 ,ayat 71, ayat 7
( 2 ) ayat 159 ayat 160, ayat 174,ayat 175, ayat 42,ayat 63, ayat 64
( 17 ) ayat 23, ayat 24
Great presentation ! Love the last question !
This man taking about his achievement rather than Muslim philosophy ! I think he wast my last 25 min and I suggest Especially talk at google please bring people who know how to talk on philosophy....
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That was perfect
Interesting points of view! Thank u google !
Good talk
I have listened to some episodes of your podcast. It's good.. some humility might make you more popular though.
In 10 mins, I am done listening g to this guy.
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I think there's interesting ideas at: 47:56 onward. Other stuff is, I think, mostly boring things about names, history & timeline.
That's history: names , dates , cultures, etc...
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This guy doesn’t have that Socratic aura. This sounds more like a corporate talk. But then he is more of a historian of philosophy than a philosopher himself. So it’s okay.
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German scholars have proved much of the Quran is a mutation from the Trinitiarian hymnographer Saint Ephraim of Cyrus > His Aramaic hymns have been shorn of Christ & the Holy Spirit to make them appear to be One-God texts. This is a continuation of the Christian heresy of Arianism thru' Semi-Arianism, Monophysitism, Monothelitism and 2 forms of Arab Monotheism. This was brought about by Muawwiya after the first 4 Caliphs and "Islam" was read back into history as different Quranic versions fought for control. The earliest 5 or 6 Qurans are all incomplete and different & the so-called Dark = untranslatable passages are Aramaic with later diacritical marks added. See Gunter Luling's A Challenge to Islam for Reformation.
Imagine future historians recognize the Islamic back-story was changed. The unknown Aramaic origins of the Quran become more evident and their authorship by the Trinitarian St Ephraim of Cyrus has Christ & the Holy Spirit lopped off to become Arianism writ large - i.e. - Monotheism expands as Non-Trinitarian faux theology & the Christian origin of the Dark Passages = 25% of the Quran, implies Christ is the figure changed into Mohammad over time > AD800. Then it all shifts > Arian Monotheism is against Trinitarianism via Arianism, Semi-Arianism, Monophysitism, Monothelitism & finally two kinds of Arab Monotheism. Just as English Protestantism created new history by displacing the Catholic back-story, so Musawwiya - incidentally, one of al-llah's titles - fought as a One-God warrior, creating & twisting texts to his will & political ambitions. Islam became a coherent, cohesive block later & was read back.
Mu'awiya was the first caliph whose name appeared on coins, inscriptions, or documents of the nascent Islamic empire. The inscriptions from his reign lacked any explicit reference to Islam or Muhammad and the only titles that appear are 'servant of God' and 'commander of the faithful'. This has led some modern historians to question Mu'awiya's commitment to Islam. They have proposed that he adhered to a non-confessional or indeterminate form of monotheism, or may have been a Christian. Asserting that the earliest Muslims did not see their faith as different from other monotheistic faiths, these historians see the earlier Medina-based caliphs in the same vein, but no public proclamations from their period exist. On the other hand, the historian Robert Hoyland notes that Mu'awiya gave a very Islamic challenge to the Byzantine emperor Constans to "deny [the divinity of] Jesus and turn to the Great God who I worship, the God of our father Abraham" and speculates that Mu'awiya's tour of Christian sites in Jerusalem was done to demonstrate "the fact that he, and not the Byzantine emperor, was now God's representative on earth". Methinks the challenge to Constans II was Arian Monotheism & that Islam was created later.
its awesome .thank you sir
Al Biruni literally traveled to Indian sub-continent.....
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Drawn by the suspicious media - Islam came with the Holy Qur'an, the word of God. When you listen to it or read it, you will find serenity and spiritual peace that you have never found before - filling the spiritual void of the soul by answering all of its questions, including - Why was it created? What after death? It gives the soul hope and removes anxiety
and fear of the future
The qur'an borrowed most of the stories from outside sources. So it can not be the word of God. the best will be to call it the word of Gibril but that is overreding the value of a Christian priest, (family of mohammed) with the name Gibril.
I think he's trying to say that "Islamic Philosophy" is an oxymoron since under Islam Muslims are not even permitted to _doubt_ the Qur'an. So a Muslim can hardly be a philosopher in any real sense.
Including the obscure contemporary female philosopher is tokenism in my view, who has heard of her and what are her significant contributions? Maybe the BBC and CNN are interested in her work and some Arab feminists or something... But there are dozens of contemporary and recent philosophers in the Muslim world you could have referred to, even the likes of Sayyid Qutb whose writings certainly delve into many philosophical topics in great depth...and have been politically, historically significant.
It is incorrect to say that Islamic philosophy kicks off a few centuries after Muhammad too. It is very obvious, that major philosophical topics, questions and arguments are part of Islam from day one, in the time of the prophet and his companions and in the immediate succeeding generations... The Quran is full of principles related to philosophy such as (Epistemology [i'lmiyyah]...the types and validity of various kinds of knowledge, free will [huroor] and determinism [qadr], responsibility [takleef], accountability [masooliyah], purpose, meaning, morality and justice [a'dl], thought [tafkeer], causality, the principle of non-contradiction, benefit [maslaha] and harm [mafsadah], absolute truth [haqeeqah], certainty [yaqeen], clarity [bayaan] all of these principles and details are oft repeated in the Quran in different ways and the Muslims were commanded to think about them, study them, apply them and the Quran provides refutations of existing religions, philosophies, beliefs and concepts...such as those from the Jews and Christians, the polytheists and atheists etc...
The traditional Islamic sciences (or branches of knowledge) delve deeply into philosophical issues in many areas too e.g. in A'qeedah, Kalaam, Mantiq, Falsafah, Usoolul Fiqh, Mathematics, Tasawwuf, Tafseer and Usoolul Deen.
Concerning the cross cultural/religious/civilizational influence of philosophies then not only is this due to the obligation of da'wah [invitation to Islam] and nahi a'nil munkar [forbidding of evil ideas and acts] but the interaction of the expansion of darul Islam into those places, trade in and out of Muslim lands and the fact that Islam says that a messenger was sent to every nation...so root ideas of morality/monotheism were sent to all nations and will appear to a degree in their culture and religions, even in a distorted form. Also due to universal human nature and problems, and the Divine nature bestowed on man etc...
Traditionally Muslim scholars (with support from Islamic Divine texts) regard the influence of foreign philosophy from greeks, indians etc as one of the causes of decline of the Islamic civilization as it contributed to distancing from the sources that gave the Islamic civilization clarity in foundations, purpose and method and was a contributing factor to divisions in beliefs and sects... This has continued today with many in the Muslim world adopting all political, social, philosophical trends arising in America, Europe etc.
لا أعلم إن كنت تستطيع أن تقرأ هذه السطور
أود أن اقول لك تعليقك افادني
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i think, the main problem of common muslims and including most of their Quranic scholars, are too much "legalistic," (fiqh oriented), as if ayatollah (god guidance) is only one: al Quran (holy scripture) and its derivatives (hadist, ijma, qiyas, etc). factually, God him self, in very first revelation to Muhammad, is not asking Muhammad to study (iqra) the holy Quran (cos the kitab doesn't exist at that day), instead He command Muhammad to study (iqra) other ayatullah, we called as ayat Kauniyah (universe and all of His Creations in it). That why in serious and encyclopedic Islamic traditional school, we always taught that beside al Quran, there is another god guidance (ayatullah) called ayat kauniyah (the universe and all god creation in it). and for qur'anic scholars, we also know --from al Quran it self, there are two others god guidance (ayatullah), that we as muslims should seek for God Guidances: called as ayat insaniyah (human being) and ayat tarikhiyyah (human history).
if common muslims and it scholars, uses all 4 God Guidance in balanced ways, we will not always fall into legalistic point of view when we talking or examining Islam point of view about woman/feminism, politics, evolution, LGBTQ issues, democracy, secularism, separation between religion and state, on terrorism, etc. for me, if sociology, political science, statistics, history on the rise and fall of civilizations/countries (as interpreters of ayat kauniyah and ayat tarikhiyyah) comes to the conclusion that democracy with separation between religion and state, is the best political system in the world for advancement human civilizations, then all Muslims should choose democracy with separation between religion and state, as preferable political system to practice in all Muslims majority countries.
also if expert on biology, doctors, psychiatry, etc (as interpreter of ayat kauniyah and ayat insaniyah) , said that beside man and woman (as gender), we also has intersex, hemaprodyte, woman with more testosterones, man with more X chromosome, etc, then all Muslims should choose to agree that god him self gave us guidance / ayat that beside man and woman as gender, there also another genders/pronouns that we should cherish, protect, and respect (cos if we don't respect others God Creations, are similarly with we don't respect our God as their Creator).
if we stubborn, only picks, one ayatullah, we called al Quran (holy scripture/ayat Qauliyah), as the one and only god guidance to follow, then muslims and it scholars, will always fall upon into legalistic point of view (fiqh oriented) when we examining what is islamic point view on everything under the sky. wahabbiyah, isis, al Qaida, etc are trapped in this narrow point of view about Islam and its believe. of course, for responsible and encyclopedic islamic teaching, all those narrow point views on Islam are wrong (at least incomplete), misguided, and disrespecting God.
umar bin khattab, as on of few sahabah (closed friend of Prophet), several times choose to disregarding some textual issues stated clearly in al Quran, and pick other decision after he choose as Muhammad successor, as leader (khalifah/amir), if there are more fairer and more justice way (socially) on making decision as Amir/Leader, rather than choose from what already state very clear in al Quran. he always choose more fairer and more justice decisions, even others sahabah question his decision. and as we know it, umar bin khattab is one of several sahabah (closed friend of Prophet) that guaranteed (informed) by the Prophet that he is going to heaven. his way of leadership decision, was a hard evidence that the closest friend to Muhammad, also not only consider holy scripture (ayat Qauliyah), but also social aspect, fairness, and justice (ayat kauniyah), when he making decision as a leader.
nobody in umar bin khattab time, dare to called umar bin khattab as heretic/bid'ah, kuffar, or infidel. but in modern era, several of loud muslims, loud muslim scholars, and most of jihadist will immediately call us heretic/bid'ah, kuffar, or infidel if we also uses 3 other God Guidance's beside ayat Qauliyah, when we speak, analyze, examining islamic point of view on everything under the sun. how strange is it, if we following completes God Guidance's, then be called as infidel, kuffar, or bid'ah. legalistic approach (fiqh oriented) on Islam has bad impact on advancement of Islamic civilization, and has backward effect on development of its peoples: the Muslims. but yes, in Islamic jurisprudence (ushul fiqh), we also has similar concept with Umar way, but unfortunately has more narrowed approach and clearly far from sufficient to be implemented in modern era, we call them: maslahah mursalah (public good principle) and maqashid syariah (ratio legal over legal specific).
if muslims also incorporate social science, biology, technology, history, political science, psychology, etc (as part of rightful interpreter all of God Guidancs/ayatullah), many problem we faced today in many part of Muslim countries, will be addressed in responsible way. Muhammad him self, in his own word (Hadits Bukhari Collection no 6015), said: muslims should follow person with specific expertise on handling matter, so let political scientist handle political matter, health matter should handle by doctors, etc. do not let everything under authority of quranic expert. in general, muslim should treat expert on other ayatullah (scientist as rightful interpreter whole universe and all of His Creations in it, as rightful interpreter human being behavior and it history) equal to expert on holy scripture (al quran). Furthermore, on all wide range of social issues, every new founding/understanding as result from responsible research by scientist, should supersede (abrogate) any old interpretation from holy scripture, cos all of new founding/understanding as result from responsible research by scientist, are also rightful interpreter of God Guidance (ayatullah). falling to do so, should be interpreted as a disqualified argument/opinion.
Many argument/opinion base on fiqh (islamic legal specific), kalam (theology) and falsafah (philosophy), factually in most areas are quite obsolete for addressing social, economic, and political problem in modern era, cos most of them are derived only from ayat Qauliyah (Quranic centric), which is an incomplete way to sorting our problem in modern era. Most of old argument/opinion already supersede/abrogated by new founding/understanding as result from responsible research by scientist. Muslims should back to the complete of God Guidance in balance way on solving problem in Muslims world, not only using holy scripture as final say. and stop kuffar/infidel calling game, cos that game from a complete, genuine, and responsible interpretation of 4 God Guidances, is simply un islamic.
and, as an open end conclusion, there is a deeper question: why common muslims and its scholars dare to disregarding 3 other God Guidance's? why muslims and its scholars become legalistic (only focus on 1 ayatullah / 1 God Gudance (ayat Qauliyah) called alquran, as if salvation of a civilization fate can be and must be depend on 1 cause only? as brief answer is: corruption and abuse of power by people in high power, it cronies, and big business that closed to muslim countries rulers at that time. all of them, almost single handedly creates and propagate common muslims and its scholars into disregarding 3 other God Guidance's.
peoples in power, it cronies, and big business that closed to muslim countries rulers push and push relentlessly to narrow interpretation on morals and public interest thru perverted interpretation on the holy scripture. even, they dare to appoint unqualified islamic scholar as qadi for them to uses as fatwa producers in favors to their vested interest. since then, islamic civilization goes down spiral into inevitable decline from it's greatness. many fatwa produced in their regime will makes serious, genuine, and responsible islamic scholar scratching their head and shocked. fatwa on mihnah policy, on banning printing technology, banning radio, tv, google, youtube, etc, are among of perverted interpretation on holy scripture. it lead to tradition/repetition/reinforcement on using narrow interpretation islamic law for beating and punishing dissent and discontent on social injustice in islamic society.
furthermore, it lead islamic society to become close minded, anti science, and trapped in textual approach tradition on just 1 god guidance called al quran (ayat Qauliyah) only, with narrow and more narrow interpretation. common muslim today and it scholar today are the real victims of bad fatwa born from dark alliance between high power, it cronies, big business that closed to muslim rulers before them. lets wake them up, by spreading the real genuine of God Guidance's and it's rightful interpreters that we called: sciences. amen.
The first 20 some minutes were really an introduction and a sales pitch for his own material. Then, he goes into the history of it by basically naming a bunch of names which is fine, but honestly, I was expecting to hear about the actual philosophical positions.
he's an academic. he does not produce material for you
@@Dosadniste2000 not really sure how your comment connects to my two year old observation...
Go see other talks by professors who are pure scientific eager inquisitive minds like professor Frank Griffel, enthusiastic, deeply insightful, just like a philosophy lecture should sound rather than this prejudiced text2voice reading robot.
His dismissal of the translations from Greek to Arabic stating that we now have access to the original greek, so the for him translation was overrated and did play a role in preserving the treasure that is the Greek philosophy and pass it to Europe after it got out of the dark ages. this the first ever underpinning of the importance of the translation that I hear. The golden age Europe philosophy was fueled by translating back from Arabic to latin, and surely we would have a different course of history. to claim otherwise is ignorance.
I recommend greater scholars like Frank Griffel , check his great work and video.
I would never understand why you would latinize Ibne Sina and Ibne Rushd. I don't see Arabic speaking commentators calling Leibniz to ibne Leibniz in their works.
Imagine you go to an alien planet to try give them an Idea about what Boxing is, ok! Would you list names of famous boxers (and some female ones), pull up a map about where they were born, and show pictures of books you wrote about boxing... Or would you right away play clips of some rounds and fights or do demonstrations (with a fellow human) or play Cus D'Amato explaining techniques and training?? This is just hurting Philosophy at a moment when it is much needed.
why do i have this feeling that you are telling the truth?
Philosophy did not end in 1200, this is a big mistake
Look at Ibn Taymiyyah who lived in 1263 to 1300 years, and there were several people who lived in the Mamluk state and likewise Ibn Khaldun
some misleading aspects are seen in this talk.
He admitted he is bias and he does not know what his bias is... Never get Islamic information for anyone except a proven truthworthy Muslim Academic. If I wanted to know about Physics, why would I go to the Hairdresser? Seems a bit silly right... ;) Same applies with Islam! #quran #haqq
At 39:30, the subtitle should say "Safavid", not "Seljuk".
Peter Adamson you bring out the right subject but very carefully and intentionally cover 10% of the truth and make it the focal point of the whole lecture, or intentional misrepresentation of the most important era in that grassroots the evolution on science, philosophy, astronomy, agriculture, religious study to any other relevant subjects that exists today!
Fact is Muslims are the one invited the Christians and Jews scholars and they were the minority but Islam showed them the practical and spiritual existence which in this so called your modern culture you haven’t succeeded in.. so why aren’t you telling them about first university, first library? Amount of books? Was anyone restricted from accessing it? Who invented algebra? Geometry? Chemistry? Clock? Mad production of paper? Fair trade? Building of society where multiple library, hospital, street light, water line in the Al-Andalus where it was the most advance civilized culture existed in compare to Europe was drowned in a dark age? How about the fact a lot of Socrates and platos work was translated, studied and debunked and given solution? King of England wrote to the Emir of Cordova begging him to accept his niece and her entourage to emirs schools and the king addressed himself as a grateful servant of the Emir? Why don’t you mention how the all books and literature was destroyed by mongol invasion and they throw all books in the river that color of the river stayed black for couple of days? Also how the Spanish Inquisition destroyed everything Muslims worked so hard to build? And why not mention how ethnic cleansing, genocide committed by the name of your so cultured church? Those are the main reason why the great work of that era didn’t survive! Why all of a sudden for 6/7 centuries there wasn’t any mention of any discovery or advancement but all of a sudden Europe revived after the persecution of Andalusia?
You are so intentionally/ carefully slandering and dismissing most of the Muslim worlds contribution and in process trying very hard to portray them as not relevant and almost indirectly but very intentionally leveling them as backwards, racist and still kerp trying imply how many problems Muslim world has..
well people like you divide and create hate in this very modern world in the land of the free while Muslims successfully demonstrated many centuries ago how to overcome all that!
Why don’t you debate someone’s rom the Muslim intellectual sidehuh?
I just get disgusted at the fact how strong they find you to a point where you are giving lecture!
And google allows it too makes it easier to see the bigger picture much more easily! Imagine if you even said anything remotely close to it about the Jews, weather it was true or not, you would’ve been leveled worse than hitler and you would’ve said sorry and you would’ve lost your credibility and destroyed!
Then again the real question here is the motives and means!
ou make a common mistake: Muslim is not Arabic or Arab, Islamic is not Arabic or Arab, you can say that even Muslim is not islamic. Even Al kindi was not Arab, how can he be the father of Arab philosophy?
Why do so angry about arabic philosophy? It is political isuse.. So what can we call the europian philosophy? There is france england german etc..
This guys cloaked himself as if he is just presenting facts and in the process squeezed in his bias to undermine the contribution of the Islamic world paving the way to Rennaisance in Europe.
What the gell dud ge mean by Avicenna being from central Asia. Central Asia is a big place. Avicenna was Persian living in what is now Iraq.
Kamis tgl 11.3.2021
Assalamu'alaikum maaf ustadz, kenapa pengertian Hadist menurut kata/firman/wahyu Allah SWT Tuhan (Al-Quran) tidak sama dengan pengertian Hadist menurut imam Syafei, Hambali, Hanafi, Maliki, Tirmidzi, Bukhari, Muslim, Ibnu Majah, Abu Dawud, Malik Bin Anas dan lain-lain, serta sebagian besar ulama sampai sekarang ini ustazah..?
I like the presentation of historical facts but no context, and the translation is not a philosophy in itself but what the Muslim philosophers did in critiquing and enhancing the Greek philosophy by Plato, Aristotle et al. There is your clear subtle bias.😁
do you think that muslim philosophers are not biased at all? everything they say is biased.
This person is taking about the history of philosophy ,he didn't say anything about the Islamic philosophy it self ,I wish he talks about what exactly the search is about? in general ,nothing to do with Quran or eny fact about Islamic religion.
check out his podcast or his youtube channel:
history of philosophy without any gaps
you need to read the history carefully, you got it wrong.why are you twisting the whole truth upside down? people think once you got a Ph.D. you know everything. you use your Ph.D.,to tell more lies. go and learn properly .
What did you want to say about the issue except accusation ?
M8 every historical society I have studied show they believe in Monotheism then fall into polytheism at some point. Then theyre society is destroyed like the city of pompeii most famously known.
Then they are corrected on Monotheism again throughtout the various societies. The Greek Religon for example used to believe the Omnipotent ruler of the skies and everything there was... called Poseidon. And they didnt used to have the other olympians and were a later addition.
The Chinese Emperor was the exact same they used and still believe there is the Ruler and Creator of the Universe that chooses each emperor to lead theyre nations
So are many african tribes such as the zulu who are called the heavenly people that believe in the ONE.
And so are the First Nations who believe in One great spirit who rules above the skies and maintains the lands, that isnt the sun, moon or the stars but above them
So again and again it coms back to Monotheism
Its fine if you dont believe at the moment
Because you lack knowledge not only in histories and societies but also
Science. Logic. And religons.
As even in science
Everything created has a cause
Its called cause and effect, we can trace everything back to the big bang (which was found out by an Islamic Scientist ironically enough 1000 years ago. His name is Ibn Sina. Search Autin School Roy Cassandra Rise of Islam. Hes not muslim but a great studier of histories on youtube.)
Anyways the big bang if we say has been created and the that creator has been created, and go on for infinite
Will the universe be created?
The answer is no.
Another example was if I were to pass a bottle of water to you but a million people times infinite are between us, will the bottle ever reach you?
The answer is still no.
Thus we understand there is an Uncreated Entity who has created and sustained the universe.
"Sustain" due to the Law of Entropy the universe is not sustaining itself and cannot give rise to itself much less anything like it
In conclusion, this aint christianity mate. This is Islam, the True Religion as it reaffirms the previous scriptures rights and speaks of truths and correfts the distortions and wrongs put in by various people who distort the message and scriptures over time (like the bible, and so on)
Do more research on your own. Getting a little tired writing this, Im human m8.
Which is why I recommended Ahmed Deedat and Dr Zakir Naik (memorizer of 6 religious texts and points out the wrongs and corrects what is right distinguishing with science, Reason and logic.)
Hes on youtube, so you dont have a excuse in beinf lazy.
it's before wikipedia now :)
I have read some part of your “Arabic Philosophy” book, and I believe there are serious questions to be asked there, esp when it comes to Translation Movement. However, I do not believe there is anything called Arabic Philosophy as Arabic was the language in which such a thought was written. That is all about it. Philosophy emanates from a culture of thought which Arabs did not possess, and it just does not make sense to claim that Arabs began philosophizing after Islam! You may better call such a thought system Islamic theology, at the best.
Most importantly, it won’t hurt to know Philosophy was banned for Muslims as it teaches them how to think logically.
I am sorry as it does not make sense at all!
I suggest reading “Greek Thought, Arabic Culture,” or “Arabs and Iranians in the Islamic Conquest Narrative,” to name a few.
wow a presentation full of orientalism
First 10 minutes full of nonsense…
everyone is philosopher. until al gazali entar the room
This is a remarkable event in that it contains so little information. I am not sure if I learnt anything of value or even interest at all.
there are also a ot of Turkic and Persian philosophers in İslamic World
Why are you doing this? Really!? Spending 20 minutes on promotion, then the rest on shallow bellow-highschool-level lame PowerPoint listing... The majority of the talk is no philosophy at all... The lameness the shallowness, the non impactful way of doing things, I mean, why why why torturing yourself like that ... Are you ashamed, feeling useless... Get to philosophical issues already it will elevate you... This is really middle-school-project like ... you cover Female philosophers just because there are there not because they have smtg interesting to say, are they plants, wow, that's some way a philosopher talks, the masters of argumentation are rolling in their graves. Dude, i feel sorry for the guy, for the misrepresentation of a beautiful sparkling culture in front of engineers. Philosophy in america, what s Upppp!!!!
Kalaam means talk or discussion
Is Bruce lee Muslim
Philosophy in North Africa and the middle east was developed by the Imazighen (Berbers) in North Africa, Persians, Iraqis, and Jewish. so where are the Arabs here?? Africans are not Arabs, Syrians, Iraqis are not Arabs, Jewish people are not Arabs, Egyptians are not Arabs. So, why you don't just use the geographical terms, WHY ACADEMIA ALWAYS KILL THE NATIVE PEOPLE AND ERASE ALL IDENTITIES AND COVER THEM WITH IDINTITIES AND RACES?????????!! WHY NOT JUST CALLING IT "medieval MENA philosophy"???????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We live in the 21th century and academia still use the imperialistic and totalitarian terms. In North Africa we are ethnically Imazighen, religiously Muslims, Atheists, Christians, Jewish, agnostics, Non-religions.. So, why you either use a religious term or racist term???????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Minggu tgl 28 februari 2021
Jam 23.09 Wib.
Assalamu'alaikum warrahmatullahi wabarakatuh Habib..?
Wabah, musibah dan bencana bertubi silih berganti disejagat bumi dan negeri kita ini, kemungkinan saja sangat erat kaitannya dengan Al-Qur'an surat Haa Miim As-sajdah ( 41 ) ayat 53, surat Asy-Syu'ara ( 26 ) ayat 208, surat An-Nahl ( 16 ) ayat 1 dan ayat 113, surat Al-Mu'min ( 40 ) ayat 22, surat Al-Isra' ( 17 ) ayat 15, surat Ad-Dukhan ( 44 ) ayat 5, surat An-Naml ( 27 ) ayat 58, surat Al-Fajr ( 89 ) ayat 13
Sabtu tgl.27 februari 2021 jam 05.16 wib
Assalamu'alaikum warrahmatullahi wabarakatuh Habib..?
Kata dan pendapat Ulama dalam beragama belum lah tentu sama dengan kata Tuhan, seharusnya kata Tuhan lah yang seharusnya dikatakan oleh Ulama Kepada umat. itulah cara beragama yang benar yang lurus dan jujur, membuat kebohongan terhadap Allah tidak akan beruntung. sebagaimana dijelaskan dalam Al-Quran surat An-Najm ( 53 ) ayat 3 dan ayat 4, surat Yunus ( 10 ) ayat 19 dan ayat 32, surat Ali-Imran ( 3 ) ayat 24, surat An-Nisa' ( 4 ) ayat 87, surat Al-Musalat ( 77 ) ayat 50, surat Al-Hajj ( 22 ) ayat 67, surat Al-Ahqaf ( 46 ) ayat 11, surat Al-Hijr ( 15 ) ayat 41.
Why do u so angry about arabic philosophy? Aveceena not persian he is from uzbekistan by the way hahahaha i know hater
Kalam means wordS, not word
Words = Kalimaat not Kalam. The closest literal translation of Kalam to English I can think of is Discourse.
That's not how you translate lol kalaam in English they use it as words
Islamic philosopher never get Islamic religious people involve ,sprit people in high level yes not religious in all Islamic philosophy nothing comes from Quran it's about thinking and explaining the world and human mind ,subject is beauty's,time ,understanding about life ,personality of human ,with very deep details is must closer to logic than islam as a religion.most lslamic philosopher are not necessarily religious like a book ali sina he was medical doctor and very early surgeon in his time.
Well, this was rather disappointing. I was hoping to learn what was distinctive about Arabic philosophy, not just that it exists.
good good
Skip to 21:30
Madame Blavatsky?
he calls himself an american but is not interested in the philosophy of the precolumbian americas. how delusional is that??
St. Augustine is from Algeria not Tunisia!
Naim DZ there were no Arabs in North Africa at that time so it doesn't matter if he was Tunis or Algeria lol
Geographically speaking it does. Because although the country didn't existed the algeri people did live there. Algeri people are not ethnically similar to Arabs in the gulf. They just speak Arabic.
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