WCW Fall Brawl '97: War Games - The "Reliving The War" PPV Review
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WCW Fall Brawl: War Games took place on September 14th 1997 in Winston-Salem, NC. The annual War Games match featured The Four Horsemen taking on the nWo inside the cage. The nWo had made fun of Arn Anderson's retirement speech on Monday Nitro, and the Horsemen (along with new enforcer Curt Hennig) were out to get revenge. Representing the nWo in the main event are Kevin Nash, Konnan, Buff Bagwell and Syxx.
Elsewhere on the card Chris Jericho defends the Cruiserweight Championship against Eddie Guerrero, Dean Malenko takes on Jeff Jarrett, Scott Hall and Randy Savage team up again to battle Lex Luger and Diamond Dallas Page, and Alex Wright defends his TV title against Ultimo Dragon.
This video is part part of the Wrestling Bios Reliving The War series.
00:00 - Intro
01:10 - Chris Jericho vs Eddie Guerrero
04:34 - Harlem Heat vs The Steiner Brothers
06:10 - Alex Wright vs Ultimo Dragon
09:35 - Jeff Jarrett vs Dean Malenko
11:38 - Mortis & Wrath vs Meng & The Barbarian
13:56 - Scott Norton vs The Giant
15:43 - DDP & Luger vs Hall & Savage
18:59 - War Games: nWo vs Horsemen
24:35 - Final Thoughts / Credits
#WCW #nWo #WRESTLING - กีฬา
Pausing my Horseman business for this
Business is Booming baby! Wooooooooo!!!
It takes jam to be able to pause Horseman business. LMAO.
This IS Horseman business
don’t forget the magical briefcase…
You must have used a very strong Davey Boy Smith Chinlock to pause your Horseman Business 😂😂😂
Meng no selling the kicks while holding a double Tongan Death Grip should be a meme. SIMPLY AMAZING
I hated Meng. He thought he was the best, he did a lot of no selling. The Wrath and Mortis we're WCW original and should have done better...
This is why there is the Meng Manly Meter
@@dontreldontrel416 Wrath was Adam Bomb in WWF, and before that The Nightstalker in AWA. Mortis I'll give you though. He was only a jobber before going to WCW.
Can we talk about how over Alex wright was lol this guys dance is amazing
He is so underrated
@@ceeal2943 his bratwurst isn't
I have bratwurst jealousy
Curt Henning in the 4 horsemen made to much sense. It would have been perfect for the Horsemen to be faces against the nwo. Who knows what could have came of it. But instead Henning became just another nwo member lost in the black and white shuffle.
I remember even as a kid I didn't get why they had him join the NWO. It was honestly when the cracks started to show for me that they didn't know what to do with the storyline.
Yup, the wheels start falling off WcW here, they'll maintain the TV ratings for a few more weeks atleast.
@@BaneClandestine The only two reasons I could think of why WCW made decision to have Henning turn on the Four Horseman to join NWO, was to shock the audience and reason number two was maybe Flair wanted to have a program against Henning, and this is the idea to get to that, but it doesn’t explain why Henning did what he did on camera from a character motivation.
Swerve bro!
Bull, Curt Hennig was the most winning member of the nWo for the remainder of 1997.
Ooof, I remember this next Nitro so well. I'm pretty sure there was an image of Flair after he got the door slammed into his face that legit made me turn off my TV and cry. I was ten years old so I cried at the foot of our staircase so that my dad could see. When he walked past and was like "wtf is wrong with you?" I tried to tell him about Curt Henning's betrayal (which I didn't see coming, once again, because I was 10) and my dad was like "boy if you don't stop crying you need to go to bed right now". I was much too young for all this horseman business.
Dude me too. They really did absolutely crush the Horsemen here. Still bugs me lol
Ha sounds like my dad R.I.P
You do realize the Horsemen use to do the same things to others right?
@@andrewft31 As a man in my 30s, yeah. As a 10 year old kid, no
🤣🤣😆😆
How many times did WCW do the "he was secretly in the NWO all along" storyline? I'm already sick of it and we're still in 1997.
One of the commentators (I think it was Tony) also raised a really good point during the Wargames match about it being annoying that absolutely nobody from WCW was actually willing to step up and replace Hennig when he appeared to be injured. Sadly this sort of thing happening constantly actually serves as a good kayfabe excuse for the nWo dominating the company for so long.
Just 1-200 Times more Pal 😏
@@tempestfennac9687 This highlights an even bigger problem. When the NWO first showed up, they were all about taking over the WCW. But by this PPV, they've dropped this. If a wrestler isn't currently feuding with someone from the NWO, then the NWO doesn't even matter. They are just another faction.
@@Hedgehobbit This is a good point. Dropping that aspect of the group seems like a major problem due to the "just another faction" issue.
I love these appetizers that hold us over until the main course on Thursdays!
Always top quality content. This is why this is the best wrestling channel on TH-cam.
Mortis and Wrath vs Faces of Fear, one of the best, stiff tag matches from the 90's. Go check it out, folks!
It had a rematch (sort of) at Halloween Havoc 98 when Adam Bomb (Wrath) took on Meng
i may not of liked Glacier but damn back in the day i loved Mortis and Wrath as a tag team
kanyon said that one time on WCW saturday night when they did this same match, meng and barbarian were just flat out shooting on them for 11 minutes
Henning clearly getting revenge on The Horsemen for having to sit through months of those Jarrett/Mongo segments
That sounds as terrible as you're implying it was.
Ironically my grandma was one of the people who bought this PPV. I still remember watching it with her and my family. She also took me to my first and only WCW show.
Awesome Story
@@zacharythomason7359 yeah, who needs Harry Potter when you got a bloke mentioning that his gran bought a PPV..
This channel man, absolutely knocking it out of the park. WB &OSW officially run the game. Everyone else needs to get in the bin.
Edit: wb, once the war is over, will you continue to review Raw & smack down episodes? I stopped watching all wrestling in about mid 2001 ISH so it would be good to find out what I missed. Thanks as always for the considerable effort you put in for us to enjoy these.
Just consistent, top notch stuff from both channels
I like the comedy aspects of both as well, really well produced videos by both. Wish them every success.
Who is osw?
Agreed. Wrestling Bios and OSWReviewHD...4 Life(?). Haha, too old to be saying that.
@@leftovergaming9529 search OSW Review. You sir, are welcome.
Mongo got really decent during this time, maybe 2 months prior was the beginning. I know he gets a lot of a flack for his commentator start and then learning on the job in the ring but only thing you can expect from any wrestler is...did they get better? As for Mongo, unlike many more well known and well beloved wrestlers, he did. Props to him. The Henning turn was just poor...he has done that too much & everyone saw it coming
I like Mongo tons more upon rewatching these days. The live audience always gets behind him. I'm trying to like double J more but I'm kinda indifferent to him, same as I was in 1997.
2 this day i dont understand Mr Perfect joining da Nwo. He was tailor made 2 b a Horseman
@@rnhtube Oh the FAKE JJ gets a lot of real heat bc of his dad and how he got into the business but he could take a bump & tell a story in the ring
@@chihollywood9379 IMO Mr Perfect didn't suit being a member of any faction or, tag team for that matter. He was always a stand alone wrestler and was great with the Brain as his manager. Perfect could be enough of a heel as himself. I agree, having him join the nWo was just shitty booking
@@Johnyevil i agree he was fine as a lone wolf but if he had 2 join a faction being a Horseman was Perfect 4 him pun intended
Woah, that intro with rise against really brings me back. One of my all time favorite bands. Gonna listen to a bunch of their songs after watching this
The fact he used a song from RISE AGAINST makes me respect this channel even more . I only watched wrestling back when I was like 9-13 or so. So these videos are so nostalgic for me and reminds me of a simpler time. Watching FOX with cops and the Simpsons. And then TNT when WCW was on. . videos like these are what I call comfort food for my mind
The day gets instantly better when I see these alerts! Horseman business is booming!!!!!!
Actually, based on my extrapolation, the arm bar is about 380 of Jericho’s 1004 holds.
What's crazy is that Jericho doesn't come out with his list of holds until 12 Mar 1998 on Thunder. How did he know about it!?!!?
An arm bar is not a "hold", it's a throw.
Scott made that kick to the outside look amazing.
6:10 the highlight of the ppv
Fall Brawls & Halloween Havoc we’re always my favorite WCW PPVs.
Absolutely loving these Sunday vids, please keep'em coming. This channel is my church🙏
lol u wildin
I always wished that WCW had a good budget so they could have gotten a huge tank for the aesthetic of War Games. I felt like that was always missing. This, Halloween Havoc, Spring Stampede, and Bash at the Beach were my favorite WCW PPV sets. Gave you a themed look and feel.
That double superplex looked really cool! 😮
This is the only PPV that I didn’t see live. It was my Bday and I was attending to some serious Horsemen business. I tuned in live to Nitro to see Ric Flair getting brain surgery and Count Shiavone leaving the set. I was only 11 and a day and to me it looked like WCW was the closest thing to Lucha Libre as being “real”. My 4 year old enjoyed see Scott Hall today on your series.
Hahaha props to the Horseman business at 4 yrs old...whoooooooooooo
The way Scott Norton lifted Giant, WCW fans got just a little peek of what made Norton IWGP champion
Isn't Norton another one of the Road Warriors old training buddies from before they were wrestlers?
Henning's turn was so obvious a blind person would've seen it coming. At midnight. In a dark room. With black out curtains over the windows. During a power outage.
...I'm saying it was really, really easy to see.
Yeah easy to say that after over 20 years
@@ceeal2943 Also easy to say when I watched weekly Nitro live in the 90's.
Mr submission v Double J Double M A! Early shades of the legendary Angle Jarrett feud 😎
That Saturday Wright Fever intro has me marking out and dying every damn time
"Ooh, big bratwurst"
I’m surprised this got a low buy rate. Love Eddie’s style of wrestling, him stopping the match to complain. Eddie pulled this off the best.
Buy rate lower when Monday views up.. they gave away the best product for free
@@UCUSmusic this is probably my biggest gripe with how bischoff ran wcw lol
@@texasyoshi Yep. PPVs were more of a promo/teaser for Nitro rather than vice-versa.
@@TravJam317 That's the downfall of being owned by the network. Weekly ratings was much more important to Turner than PPV's
I’m not. Look at the previous Fall Brawl: Hogan Hall Nash and Sting? Vs Sting? Flair Arn and Luger. That’s a hell of a main event.
This had the b-team NWO and Nash vs the lesser horsemen.
RIP Macho Man Randy Savage, Scott Hall, Eddie Guerrero, And Curt Hennig…
It’s heartbreaking how many of the stars of this era are no longer with us. From both sides. The only member of The Hart Foundation, who is still with us is Bret.
@@martynodonnell8467 yes absolutely…those were the days….
And mark Curtis and mortis and all the rest including benoit
@@mikemccoy5092 yes indeed…RIP Mark Curtis And Chris Canyon…
The show that killed Greensboro. I still wish Hennig stayed a Horseman. He would have been a good member. But they'd rather have him flounder as another background character for the nWo.
I was there 😭
I remember watching this live on channel 98 with some fuzzy strips running over the screen. This was one of the clearest PPV's I never had to order to watch 💪
Alex wright does it for me every time
That Zbyszko count was faster than Mike Tysons!
Best wrestling channel on TH-cam! Intro is 🔥.
Definitely was waiting for this one. Loved that you used Jericho’s heel theme
It was a low buy rate because everyone had a “ black box “ at the time
Omg, you just brought me back so many memories by mentioning the legendary "black box" lol. I remember that being all the hype back in the day. I myself was a kid back then so I had no real idea of what it even was, but I remember my dad mentioning it so many times when my brother and I would ask him if he could buy us a PPV lol.
scrambler box
I had one of those boxes in late '97, my dad bought it for $50. My house was ppv central for a few years lol
That's the reason why we saw every 2000 PPV for free.
The Rise Against Jericho remix was 😩🔥
Alex Wright was one of WCW's best midcarders during their glory years of 96-98 😌
I love listening to these while I play WWE 2k22 oddly enough the nostalgia makes it a more enjoyable experience cheers wrestling bios
Same
We need that Saturday Wright fever 🤒 😫 😩 🙌 🕺🏾🕺🏾🕺🏾🕺🏾
Hennig joining the NWO so shortly after joining the Four Horsemen annoyed me. It's hard to get excited about something because it's probably just gonna get taken away and all for a faction that doesn't need anymore members.
The background music always makes me think that I’m battling a mid level boss in a 16 bit game.
This was a pretty good show I wish they didn't have curt henning turn on the four horseman as I thought he made a perfect edition to the horseman I mean it was done perfectly the turn but I still don't know why they did this as there was potential there
He joined the NWO just to be buried. If he had stayed with the Horsemen or went solo he would have at least been one of the top mid card guys.
Eric Bishoff wanted WCW to be WWE light so he buried the Horseman every chance he got
Loved that Jericho remix in the beginning. Thought this may have been the beginning of his heel turn, and thus the beginning of one of the greatest acts in wrestling history.
You always manage to suprise me, this time with Wrigt Fever :D
I had to rewind to make sure I heard correctly. 😆 Lol
@@comfortablynumblbg So did I. 😂
It's funny, I didn't actually watch the PPV but I do have a soft spot for it. I happened to be on a 3 day field trip in Winston Salem that weekend and we ended up staying in the same hotel as many of the wrestlers.
It was annoying constantly seeing the nWo make the Horseman look like chumps. Even as a kid it was eye rolling to see Curt turn on the Horseman. I had no problem with him in the nWo but it was annoying to see the Horseman take another L to do it.
I think the nwo was at its best in 96 before they had 100 members, it got boring afterwards even with the Wolfpack because I knew eventually they would turn and join back with hogan. Nwo 2000 was by far the worst, hart should of never joined and everyone playing second fiddle double j smh
Alex Wright Sleeper Hold 🔥
Woooooooooo
Jericho vs Guerrero was great. Had to go back and rewatch the match.
The Alex Wright dance music playing in the background the entire match was great. I need a 24hr loop version of that song.
Another excellent video. Cheers
Random WCW Mandela Effect: the NWO ran the whole "it would be an honor" line into the ground during this whole build, even during the promo they cut in this video right before the War Games match. So much so that I remember saying that line all the time in my regular dialogue as an inside joke lol....... But watching back the promo they intended to mock, Curt actually says "it would be a privilege". I found that out yearsssss later and was stunned😂
The Meng Manly Meter™ is gonna need to be recalibrated after that double death grip spot.
Was cooking but nope family going have to wait until after I finish watching this lol.
Double K greatest heel of all time!
*double j 😂
Hahaha Kenny Kaos wishes he could do it like Jeff!
Just got the match..Not eithers best, wanna see how JJ works that crowd though so might check it out.
Nope! No double can beat the King of the Mountain!
Ric Flair in the main event didn’t draw PPV buys?!? Who could have guessed 😝
My man, using the Starrcade theme from Revenge on the 64, during the main event. That is the Wrestling Bios Difference
I liked how in the intro it looked like Stevie Ray was singing the song
Man that intro with Jericho's heel WCW theme sounded cool
I still don't get why Curt Hennig joined the Nwo he could've been a staple wcw face
I remember when I used to like Jericho
I almost spit my beer out with the Alex Wright intro... keep it up! I love this channel
The Alex wright narration by you is enough for me to subscribe!!! Hilarious
i really like how the fans are diggin Saturday Wright Fever 💃🕺🕺💃🕺
Konnan's faces he makes are always top tier.
Love the intro! Jerichoholic here
Scott Norton is a beast and I'd say underrated. In 1998 when he goes against Goldberg, it's one of the only matches that looks good with Goldberg that wasn't a complete waste of time.
Another awesome upload from the greatest wrestling channel on the planet!
I stopped watching wrestling around 2001 when I was 16 but the I love the nostalgia I get from your channel!
It’s time for some Saturday Wright Fever and Das Wunderkind!
I love the background music man!! WCW vs NWO revenge 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Keep up the good work! Nearly 3K Subs! Keep going man! Great content!
it was shocking when henning turned on horseman
Always enjoy your videos!
Yoooo that superkick sending Scott out of the ring looked amazing.
I look forward to these uploads this is my favorite channel
Did you ever noticed that in 1997 wcw got few if any clean wins over the nWo
Nash and Hogan basically refused to lose.
My mother always said sleepers were the best cure for Saturday Wright Fever.
This made me laugh. Hope you have a great night
As someone who played Need for Speed Underground 2 for hours, that song at the intro really had an extra punch of nostalgia to it for me. Kudos again, Mr. Wrestling Bios.
Time for some (more) Horsemen business!
This will be classic!
I was doing some Horsemen Business and saw that you updated.
What's gonna happen when Alex Wright goes Goth? I'm really going to miss Saturday Wright Fever.
Curt henning will take care of some nwo business 😟😟
I love the war games in wrestling 2 ring over the giant steel cage team vs team
Oh my ,Saturday Wright Sleepers
U make Sunday nights man love this channel
"Gah, they're never going to finish this 10th frame. I wonder what's on...Yes! RtW! Result!"
This was a great Show...I still enjoy it every now and then. Alex Wright wir lieben dich Bro!
Could of have a long rivalery with the Horsemen with Hennig with them never understood the move really , great video as usual .
bey Ultimo had a long 12hrs that night, after Wightys Sleeper combo.
ARMBAR......the FIRST of Jerichos 1004 Holds
It was a week after my 14th birthday coming back from my last nyc street fair that day I got fatal fury 2 and ren and stimpy what a great day bios man
12:20 So are we not going to bring up the shiny red pants of the Faces of Fear??? 🤣🤣🤣
Until he passed... i didn't realize how much Nash needed Hall... sheesh.
God I miss these days of wrestling great times 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
The only reason why I like coming to work on Sunday , this helps me get through it with the consistency of Wrestling bio uploads on Sunday hahaha let’s go !! Going to take a fat ass dab while I watch this at work lol
I need a 4 hour Marc Curtis Bio Video, always look at this gem!
Hey Mr. Bios, long time watcher, you make the end of the week, AND the end of the weekend more enjoyable! KEEP IT UP
One of the best parts of my week...lets go
alex wright sleeper hold.. aka The German Sausage Wrap
I watched this ppv on Friday ironically lol