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WHY I AS A REVERT DONT FOLLOW ANY SCHOOL OF THOUGHT || Samantha J Boyle
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ส.ค. 2018
- Hey everyone!! This video is about the different schools of thought in Sunni Islam and why I choose not to follow any school in particular.
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Amazing video ☺️ I cannot tell you how long I struggled with this issue . When I accepted Islam I had no ideas about these different sects , someone asked me one day if I was Shia or Sunni and I was literally speechless. Sects is one of the reasons I left Christianity. This is still a ongoing issue for me because I am also a revert so a lot of times when I'm trying to seek more knowledge this gets in the way. But this video was so helpful thank you ☺️
Well sister, the sunni and shia isue is different from what she's talking about...but sunni is the right sect insha'allah. It's basiclly following the quran and the sunna of the prophet and the sahaba peace be upon them
Sara Samir thank you sister for the information 😊
...so are you Sunni or Shiah? 😂
@@nesrineararem hi this is not true! if anyone would like to educate themselves on the beliefs of Shi’at Ahlul Bayt (followers of the Ahlul Bayt) please watch some videos from AhlulBayt TV here on TH-cam.
"someone asked me one day if I was Shia or Sunni"
Salaamun alaikum bro/sis.
Shia & Sunni what's real ISLAM?
The Muslims would not have been divided and in disagreement had it not been for the Companions, for every disagreement that has been created in the past, or is being created at the present time is due to their disagreement about the Companions. There is one God, one Qur'an, one Messenger and one Qiblah, and they all agree on that, but the disagreement among the Companions started on the first day after the death of the Messenger (saw), in the Saqifah (house) of Bani Saidah, and has continued up to the present day, and will continue for as long as Allah wills it.
The main problem with all that was the Companions themselves, for they disagreed about the wish of the Messenger of Allah (saw) to write them a document which would help them to remain on the right path until the Day of Judgment. This disagreement deprived the Islamic nation of a unique virtue, and has thrown it into darkness until it was divided and plagued with internal quarrels and finally ended up as a spent force.
It was they who disagreed on the issue of the Caliphate (the successorship of the Prophet), and were divided between a ruling and an opposing party, thus dividing the nation into the followers of ‘Ali and the followers of Muawiyah. It was they who differed in the interpretations of the Book of Allah and the sayings of His Messenger, which led to the creation of the various creeds, groups and subgroups; and from them came many scholars of scholastic theology and schools of thoughts and philosophies inspired by political ambitions with one aim in mind and that was to obtain power.
Through my discussions with the Shiite scholars, I discovered that, in their views, the Companions were divided into three categories:
The first category included the good Companions who knew Allah and His Messenger truly well, and they acclaimed him (the Messenger) to the last moments of their lives. They were truly his friends by words and deeds, and they never abandoned him, but rather stood their ground with him. Allah - the most High - praised them in many places in His Holy Book, and the Messenger of Allah (saw) also praised them in many places. This group of Companions are mentioned by the Shi’a with reverence and respect, they are also mentioned by the Sunnis with the same reverence and respect.
The second category were the Companions who embraced Islam and followed the Messenger of Allah (saw) either through choice or through fear, and they always showed their gratitude to the Messenger of Allah (saw) for their Islam. However, they hurt the Messenger of Allah (saw) on a few occasions, and did not always follow his orders, in fact they often challenged him and challenged the clear text with their points of view, until Allah, through the Holy Qur'an, had to intervene by rebuking them or threatening them. Allah exposed them in many Qur'anic verses, also the Messenger of Allah (saw) warned them in many of his sayings. The Shi’a mention this group of Companions only because of their deeds, and without respect or reverence.
The third type of Companions were the hypocrites who accompanied the Messenger of Allah (saw) to deceive him. They pretended to be Muslims but inside themselves they were bent on blasphemy and on deceiving Islam and the Muslims as a whole. Allah has revealed a complete Surah in the Qur'an about them, and mentioned them in many other places, and promised them the lowest level in Hell. Also the Messenger of Allah (saw) mentioned them and issued warnings about them, and even informed some of his close friends about their names and characteristics. The Shi’a and the Sunnis agree in cursing this group of Companions and have nothing to do with them.
There was a special group of Companions who distinguished themselves from the others by being relatives of the Prophet (saw), in addition to having possessed ethical and spiritual virtues and personal distinctions from Allah and His Messenger that no one else was honored with. These were Ahl al-Bayt (the Prophet's Family) whom Allah cleansed and purified, and ordered us to pray for them in the same way as he ordered us to pray for His Messenger.
He made it obligatory for us to pay them one fifth of our income, and that every Muslim must love them as a reward for the Muhammadan Message. They are our leaders and we must obey them; and they are people firmly rooted in knowledge who know the interpretation of the Holy Qur'an and they know the decisive verses of it, as well as those verses which are allegorical.
They are the people of al-Dhikr whom the Messenger of Allah equated with the Holy Qur'an in his saying "the two weighty things" (al-Thaqalayn), and ordered us to adhere to them1, He equated them to Noah's Ark: whoever joined it was saved, and whoever left it drowned2. The Companions knew the position of Ahl al-Bayt and revered them and respected them. The Shi’a follow them and put them above any of the Companions, and to support that they have many clear texts as proofs.
The Sunnis respect and revere the Companions but do not accept the above classification and do not believe that some of the Companions were hypocrites; rather, they see the Companions as being the best people after the Messenger of Allah. If they classify the Companions then it would be according to their seniority and their merits and their services to Islam. They put the Rightly Guided Caliphs in the first class, then the first six of the ten who were promised with heaven, according to them. Therefore when they pray for the Prophet (saw) and his household they attach with them all the Companions without exception.
This is what I know from the Sunni scholars, and that is what I heard from the Shi’i scholars regarding the classification of the Companions; and that is what made me start my detailed study with the issue of the Companions. I promised my God - if He led me on the right path - to rid myself from emotional bias and to be neutral and objective and to listen to what the two sides said, then to follow what was best, basing my conclusions on two premises:
1. A sound and a logical premise: that is to say that I would only depend upon what everybody is in agreement with, regarding the commentary on the Book of Allah, and the correct parts of the honorable Sunnah of the Prophet.
2. The mind: for it is the greatest gift that Allah has given to human beings, and through it He honored them and distinguished them from the rest of creation. Thus, when Allah protests about what His worshippers do, He asks them to use their minds in the best possible way, and He says: Do they not understand? Do they not comprehend? Do they not see? etc."
Let my Islam primarily be the belief in Allah, His angels, His Books and His messengers; and that Muhammad is His servant and His Messenger; and that the Religion of Allah is Islam; and that I will never depend on any of the Companions, regardless of his relation to the Messenger or his position, for I am neither Umayyad nor Abbasid nor Fatimid, and I am neither Sunni nor Shi’i, and I have no enmity towards Abu Bakr or Umar or Uthman or ‘Ali or even Wahshi, the killer of our master al-Hamzah, as long as he became a Muslim, and the Messenger of Allah forgave him. Since I had forced myself into this study in order to reach the truth, and since I had rid myself, sincerely, from all my previous beliefs, I decided to start, with the blessing of Allah, by considering the attitudes of the Companions.
For further research - click >>> www.al-islam.org/then-i-was-guided-muhammad-al-tijani-al-samawi/companions-prophet-seen-shi%E2%80%99-and-sunnis
I completely agree with you. I also listen to all the school of thought however then make my decision but I don't particularly follow a school of thought. If something is not in line with Quran and Sunnah we reject no matter what scholars it is.
Generally as knowledge increases,one will be more inclined. While the lay person does not need to follow a school, the opinions the lay person will take on anything came from the work of a madhhab. Also their imam likely follows one or was trained toward one. The point is they are a means to the goal and not the goal itself. The lay person cannot always cherry pick according to their desires either.
You are correct on this. It is amazing how u reached this true conclusions.
You are on the right path Sister.
Enough to follow Quran & Sunnah and that is it.
Alhumdulilah
The schools of thought are based on the quran and sunnah.Unless you're a well seasoned scholar of hadith and tafsir how do you decide which sunnah to follow and which to leave.Most of the greatest scholars to have ever existed followed a school of thought to an extent with maybe a different opinion on certain minor issues.
Qur'an And Sunnah according to the understanding of the Salaf
"Enough to follow Quran & Sunnah and that is it."
Assalamu alaikum
Can you please give me the reference in any of 6 books of al-Sihah al-Sitta where it says Quran and Sunna?
(The Kutub al-Sittah (Arabic: ٱلْكُتُب ٱلسِّتَّة, romanized: al-Kutub as-Sittah, lit. 'The six books') are six (originally five) books containing collections of hadith (sayings or acts of the Islamic prophet Muhammad) compiled by six Sunni Muslim scholars in the ninth century CE, approximately two centuries after the death of Muhammad (S)
Not any other books.
Thanks
@@o2xb *"how do you decide which sunnah to follow and which to leave."*
If you do not know ask Ahle Dhikr (the people of remembrance) (Quran Sura Nahl 16:43)‘Dhikr’ means the Ahlul Bayt
Describing that “Dhikr” (remembrance) means Ahlul Bayt (a.s.) and that Shias are duty-bound to ask them but that they are not bound to answer them.
At another place, He says:
هَذَا عَطَاؤُنَا فَامْنُنْ أَوْ أَمْسِكْ بِغَيْرِ حِسَابٍ.
This is Our free gift, therefore give freely or withhold, without reckoning. (Surah Sad 38:39)
And then says:
وَإِنَّهُ لَذِكْرٌ لَكَ وَلِقَوْمِكَ وَسَوْفَ تُسْأَلُونَ.
And most surely it is a reminder for you and your people, and you shall soon be questioned. (Sura Zukhruf 43:44)
The apparent meaning of the first and second verse is that inquire from the knowledgeable if you do not know. Commentators have different opinions about the term Ahle Dhikr (the people of remembrance). Some say they are those who have knowledge. Some have said they are People of the Book (Ahle Kitab). But in many traditions, it is mentioned that they are the Pure Imams (a.s.) because of two reasons: First, Ahlul Bayt (a.s.) have the perfect and complete knowledge of the Holy Quran. Hence the Lord of the universe in the subsequent Surah Nahl, says:
وَأَنزَلْنَا إِلَيْكَ الذِّكْرَ لِتُبَيِّنَ لِلنَّاسِ مَا نُزِّلَ إِلَيْهِمْ وَلَعَلَّهُمْ يَتَفَكَّرُونَ.
And We have revealed to you the ‘Reminder’ (Quran) that you may make clear to men what has been revealed to them, and that haply they may reflect. (Sura Nahl 16:44)
The second reason is that the Pure Imams (a.s.) are the Ahlul Bayt (a.s.) of the Prophet as He has said:
قَدْ أَنزَلَ اللَّهُ إِلَيْكُمْ ذِكْرًا رَسُولًا.
Allah has sent to you a messenger who is Dhikr. (Sura Talaq 65:10-11)
As regards the third verse, many commentators are of the opinion that this is an address to Sulaiman meaning that this kingship is a gift from Us which has been given to you. If you want you may favor anybody by giving it to anyone of your choice or you may retain it for you (may not give it to anyone). You will not have to account for it, either about keeping it or giving it away. The traditions to be described in future will show that ‘Ataa’ means knowledge.
In the fourth verse most the commentators have held that the Holy Quran is a thing of honour for you and your people. On the Day of Qiyamat people will be asked about thanksgiving due to revealing of this Quran and about acting upon its commandment. It has been mentioned in the traditions to be narrated in future that what is that you will be questioned are the sciences and commands.
Ali bin Ibrahim and Saffar have narrated through many reliable chains of narrators that Zurarah asked Imam Muhammad Baqir (a.s.) about Ahle Dhikr (the people of remembrance). The Hazrat said that they are we. Zurarah inquired: Should we ask you? He replied: Yes. He said: Then it is your duty to give reply to them. He said: We have the choice, that is, we may reply or we may not. Then he recited the verse:
هَذَا عَطَاؤُنَا فَامْنُنْ أَوْ أَمْسِكْ بِغَيْرِ حِسَابٍ.
This is Our free gift, therefore give freely or withhold, without reckoning. (Sura Sad 38:39)1
In Uyoon Akhbar Ridha it is mentioned regarding the grace of the holy Progeny that (if as held by the Ahle Sunnat) the Holy Prophet (S) has said that Ahle Dhikr are Jews and Christians, then Imam Ridha (a.s.) has said: Is it permissible to ask them?
If we will ask them, they will invite us towards their religion saying that their religion is better than Islam. Mamoon once asked the Imam: Have you any statement or argument against their word? The Hazrat said: Yes, the Holy Prophet (S) and we Ahlul Bayt (a.s.) are Dhikr and this is quite clear when Allah Almighty says in Surah Talaq:
يَا أُوْلِي الْأَلْبَابِ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا قَدْ أَنزَلَ اللَّهُ إِلَيْكُمْ ذِكْرًا رَسُولًا يَتْلُو عَلَيْكُمْ آيَاتِ اللَّهِ مُبَيِّنَاتٍ لِيُخْرِجَ الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا وَعَمِلُوا الصَّالِحَاتِ مِنْ الظُّلُمَاتِ إِلَى النُّورِ وَمَنْ يُؤْمِنْ بِاللَّهِ وَيَعْمَلْ صَالِحًا يُدْخِلْهُ جَنَّاتٍ تَجْرِي مِنْ تَحْتِهَا الْأَنْهَارُ خَالِدِينَ فِيهَا أَبَدًا قَدْ أَحْسَنَ اللَّهُ لَهُ رِزْقًا.
O men of understanding who believe! Allah has indeed revealed to you a reminder. An Apostle who recites to you the clear communications of Allah so that he may bring forth those who believe and do good deeds from darkness into light; and whoever believes in Allah and does good deeds, He will cause him to enter gardens beneath which rivers now, to abide therein forever, Allah has indeed given him a goodly sustenance. (Sura Talaq 65:10-11)
So Dhikr is Allah’s Prophet and we are his Ahlul Bayt.
It is narrated with true chains of narrators in Qurbul-Asnaad, Basairud Darajat and Kafi that Imam Ridha (a.s.) wrote to Ibne Abi Baseer that the Lord of the universe says:
If you do not know ask Ahle Dhikr (the people of remembrance) (Surah Nahl 16:40)
He has also said:
وَمَا كَانَ الْمُؤْمِنُونَ لِيَنفِرُوا كَافَّةً فَلَوْلَا نَفَرَ مِنْ كُلِّ فِرْقَةٍ مِنْهُمْ طَائِفَةٌ لِيَتَفَقَّهُوا فِي الدِّينِ وَلِيُنذِرُوا قَوْمَهُمْ إِذَا رَجَعُوا إِلَيْهِمْ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَحْذَرُونَ.
And it does not beseem the believers that they should go forth all together; why should not then a company from every party from among them go forth that they may apply themselves to obtain understanding in religion, and that they may warn their people when they come back to them that they may be cautious? (Sura Tawbah 9:122)
The Imam said that this command has made it a must for you to approach and to inquire from us. But it has not compelled us to give you a reply. The Lord has said:
فَإِنْ لَمْ يَسْتَجِيبُوا لَكَ فَاعْلَمْ أَنَّمَا يَتَّبِعُونَ أَهْوَاءَهُمْ وَمَنْ أَضَلُّ مِمَّنْ اتَّبَعَ هَوَاهُ بِغَيْرِ هُدًى مِنْ اللَّهِ إِنَّ اللَّهَ لَا يَهْدِي الْقَوْمَ الظَّالِمِينَ.
But if they do not answer you, then know that they only follow their low desires; and who is more erring than he who follows his low desires without any guidance from Allah? (Sura Qasas 28:50)
In Basairud Darajat, the Imam has, according to several reliable sources said: You are Shias. The narrator says that he submitted that: You have been appointed so that we may ask you.
Then I understood that when the position will be known to us we will ask him whatever we like. Hearing this, the Imam said: You have been ordered to ask us but we are not bound to reply or not to reply.
Saffar has in Basairud Darajat, dealt with this subject, through thirty reliable sources quoted Zurarah and Allamah Hilli has in Kashaful Haqq narrated after going through twelve Tafsirs quoted from the commentary of Muhammad bin Moosa Shirazi who is a Ahle Sunnat scholar, the words of Ibne Abbas that the Ahle Dhikr are Muhammad, Ali, Fatima, Hasan and Husain (a.s.) only.
They are Ahle Dhikr (People of remembrance), Ahle Ilm (People of knowledge), Ahle Aql (People of intellect) and only they are Ahlul Bayt (a.s.) and the mines of divine message and angels visit them. By Allah, He has given the name ‘Momin’ (believer) to the Muslims due to the dignity of Amirul Momineen (a.s.).
Sufyan Thawri has also quoted this narration through Saddi and Harith Awar.
Imam Ja’far (a.s.) is quoted in Basairud Darajat through four true sources about the explanation of verse:
وَإِنَّهُ لَذِكْرٌ لَكَ وَلِقَوْمِكَ وَسَوْفَ تُسْأَلُونَ.
And most surely it is a reminder for you and your people, and you shall soon be questioned. (Sura Zukhruf 43:44)
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Ahhh my gosh idk why this made me smile so much but it did! Thank you 😩❤️
I agree with you, especially the point you made when referring to other religions because sadly some Muslims swallow these rulings and never think to question their origin or foundation. Love your videos by the wayyy!
Loved your thoughts on the subject! Quick questions; how do you implement the Sunnah into your life? Like where do you gather your information from? And how to do you know that the information your gathering is correct? When you reverted or before you reverted what sources were you using to collect knowledge on Islam such as the basics of praying? much love :)
InshaAllah I want to make a whole video on these exact questions so stay tuned my love 💗 glad you enjoyed the vid!!
Can't wait! I already know its going to be good lol
@@yasmino6387 follow salafi scholars till they have sahih evidence to justify there argument
@@yasmino6387 just research about differences in school of thought and there evidence to justify there ruling u will get ur answers i my self was follower of hanfi fiq later researched and got my answers hanbali fiq is more close to sunnah than any other school of thought but its 95% correct
*"how do you implement the Sunnah into your life?"*
Assalamu alaikum
How do you know which Sunnah is right?
Who can know best the Sunnah and teachings of the Prophet Muhammad (s) than his immediate family?
Eventhough u never follow any school of thought, u still respect all the Imams....thats why I respect u 😊
Ofcourse. We have to respect their knowledge.
I personally don’t think that following a madhab is falling into one of the sects that the Prophet (peace be upon him) was talking about because the schools of thought don’t differ on big matters such as aqeedah or tawheed but they differ on the smaller issues in the category of fiqh but at the same time
I don’t think that you should blindly follow them either but schools of thought can help people who might not know where to start or even have the resources to do more in depth research and Allah knows best
naima guhad, ur absolutely right, following anyone imam is totally correct, actually it makes more easier to follow islam , if we follow anyone of them , as all the four imams are correct, thr is no differences at all
I’m not saying that you shouldn’t use what the scholars say or that you should neglect everything they say.. but they are not to be followed blindly through calling yourself part of their “school of thought”. Subhanallah that’s just segregating ourselves. What we should do is when a matter of fiqh comes up, we check with the different schools and the information they provide, and go with whichever is more clearly based on Hadith. Subhanallah we have ALL schools of thought readily available to us nowadays, that’s 4 different scholarly opinions, which is something that the early generations of Muslims didn’t have. So in matters of fiqh, we should look to what opinion has stronger evidences and follow that.
Samantha J Boyle I agree with you sister some people have the mentality of their school of thought being the only correct path and will sometimes will put their imam above the Hadith of the prophet peace be upon him. It’s definitely a disease and if those people want to follow their imam then they should follow their statement of when an evidence comes from the prophet to disregard whatever the imam’s opinion is. And it doesn’t mean that the imam wasn’t knowledgeable or something but at the end of the day they were humans and obviously didn’t have knowledge of every single aspect of the deen and it could also be that there are thousands of hadiths that they never heard and so they could only base their opinions of what they had. But now we have much more knowledge readily available to us. I don’t know if any of what I said made any sense 😅
Yesss! That makes complete sense and I completely agree!
Samantha J Boyle I don't mean to come off as combative, but I'd like to be direct and to the point. So apologies.
The personal methodology you described isn't really different from the Hanbali "school," with the caveat that Imām Ahmad actually was a muhaddith with his own methodology for acceptance/rejection of ahādīth. Have you also worked this out for yourself? If not, then I hate to be the one to inform you, but you're still a muqallid of the Hajar-Salahi school of mustalahu-l hadīth, which is prevalent in modern times but not unique. You also might find that you're doing taqlīd of the jarh and ta`dīl of whichever muhaddith's collection you're hunting through for your "evidences." Mālik, Abū Hanīfah, Bukhārī all disagreed. Ibn Ma`īn, Abū Hātim, etc. They all had their opinions. Have you formed your own, or to reiterate are you just doing taqlīd when it comed to ahādīth?
These are some of the things people fail to understand. A madhhab isn't a "sect." At its core, it's nothing more than a set of well-considered, finely-tuned principles. And following such isn'f divisive; it keeps one consistent. And more importantly, people need to keep in mind: hadīths are *not* fiqh.
oh my god thank you so so much for this video!! i agree with you 100%
Ahhhh!!! I’m SOOOO glad you agree!!!
Generally as knowledge increases,one will be more inclined. While the lay person does not need to follow a school, the opinions the lay person will take on anything came from the work of a madhhab. Also their imam likely follows one or was trained toward one. The point is they are a means to the goal and not the goal itself.
Thank you so much for putting into words exactly why I don’t follow any particular school of thought either. A lot of people may look down on me for not doing so and a lot saying things along the lines of ‘well then you’re just making the religion suit you when it should be the other way around’ when it couldn’t be further from the truth
Yesss! Alhumdulilah I’m glad you enjoyed it! Continue doing what you’re doing sis and ignore anyone who tries to lead you in another direction! ❤️
Assalamu alaikum
Don't pay attention to them, Allah will not accept blind following without knowledge, do your own research. Let alone their 4 imams. When Abu Bakr sat on the pulpit of the Prophet and confessed his helplessness and said: Though I am a ruler on you I am not better than you. Then after this his claim that he was a caliph of the prophet was incorrect or not? In the circumstances that he was not better than the people how did he become a ruler?
It is necessary for the chief to be superior to the subjects. In addition to this he said from the pulpit: There is a Satan who overcomes me. Then how can he be an Imam?
An Imam is one who is safe from the Satan. Thirdly, how can such a person become a ruler and caliph whose followers themselves say: The allegiance of Abu Bakr was a hasty matter. Allah saved the people from its mischief. If anyone does it again, I will kill him.
*Debate of Shia 8th Imam Ridha’ (a.s) With A Sunni Scholar*
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Sister, I mean no disrespect but I think you have misunderstood this issue. Apologies in advance for the long comment - hope you find it informative:
Firstly, madhabs are not sects. Sects concern aqeedah, madhabs concern fiqh. By identifying with a madhab, you have a source to ensure you are following the Shariah correctly. One madhab does not identify the others as being false and therefore does not create division - all the four madhabs are considered correct, they are simply based on slightly different formulas and therefore derive different rulings at times but all are equally valid. To illustrate differently why they are not divisions: inter-sect marriage, for example, is generally seen as either non-permissible or not preferred. Conversely, marriage between different madhabs is completely acceptable across the board.
The reason you must commit to one madhab and not pick and choose is because you might find conflicting rulings. As my teacher explained, you cannot accept that A + B = C and A + B = D. When you get into the heart of fiqh, you will find it is logically inconsistent to follow more than one madhab. Different madhabs will prioritise different things and interpret things slightly differently. You need to commit to a set of principles, otherwise, what principles are you following?
Frankly, it is not possible/very, very difficult to gain a thorough knowledge of every madhab because the information is not accessible to you. It's not about which one you "like" because it takes years of study to learn about just one madhab. It's about learning the one you have access to. Don't confuse yourself by jumping around. We are not qualified to be mujtahid and therefore not able to derive the rulings of fiqh and no mufti is going to provide a ruling without providing an evidence base. If every Muslim was basing decisions on personal feelings and interpretations, there would be no consistency in deen. You cannot just rely on Qur'an and Hadith when it comes to fiqh - there are many other elements to it. Make deen easy for yourself - I'm not saying don't question rulings, I'm saying it is important to understand the principles behind them. These Imams were not Prophets, no but their generations were guaranteed by the Prophet PBUH.
Side note: you made a comment about "saheeh" hadith. There are very, very small discrepancies between saheeh, hasan and daeef hadith. A daeef hadith cannot be used to derive rulings of fiqh but a hasan hadith can and they must not be overlooked. The only difference between saheeh and hasan is that in the latter, one of the narrators had a weak memory at some point in his life (not even necessarily at the time of the narration).
Anyway! Thanks for giving me the chance to write this comment. That's my exam revision done. Sorry for the long comment! I hope this didn't come across as imposing or hateful in any way - my intention is just to impart whatever knowledge I have in case you were previously unaware (especially since I used to have your opinion before I started studying fiqh). I hope this will just give you something to think about. There was more I wanted to explain but I've already gone on quite a bit but if you have any questions or want to find out more, let me know. If I've said anything incorrect (may Allah SWT forgive me), also let me know.
The Qu'ran and Sunnah are sufficient for any Muslim. And that is what the Prophet (PBUH) left to his ummah.
So what English word would you use for madhabs? Yes, they are not sects, but there is no accurate English word for it. Also, she is saying take from any madhab what you want--as long as it does not go against Qu'ran/Sunnah....
@@sam7748 Madhab is a school of thought. I have explained in my first comment why it is logically inconsistent to follow more than one madhab. Deen is not a case of picking and choosing.
Sunnah are those things the Prophet PBUH did consistently - it is difficult to apply these to everything in the present day because we face situations that were not present in the past. It is fiqh which provides answers for every circumstance possible. Hadith can be contradictory and we lack the understanding to resolve these contradictions so we cannot rely solely on them for fiqh. That's why I've said make deen easy for yourself - the four imams have done all the work for us. Additionally, many rulings of fiqh are derived from ijmah, which is dependent on a unanimous agreement from the sahaba. These are entirely independent of hadith.
@@livetogetrad HI Guys, I am a convert to Islam and while it is good to be just muslim it is important to know which books on Islam are accurate and which are not. There is a history that comes with early Islam and the fact is that the prophets family was persecuted after he died and the religion well lets say broke into 72 sects because people did not follow the prophets instructions. Please learn the truth
www.why-sunnis-convert-to-shia.com
Yes your right!
We need to talk about these stuff more
*"We need to talk about these stuff more"*
Assalamu alaikum,
Yes, Belief in Imams
We Shi’as also believe that, just as there is a messenger from Allah who conveys to us orders and injunctions, and who is elected and introduced to us by Allah, there is also a successor, caliph or protector of religion, who is *appointed by Allah,* and is introduced to us through the Prophet of Allah. Accordingly, all prophets of Allah introduced their successors to their ‘umma’ (followers).
The last of the Holy prophets, who was the most perfect and most exalted of all prophets of Allah, left for his followers guides to help the people avoid confusion. According to the established ‘hadith’, he introduced to the people his *twelve successors, the first: ‘Ali Ibn Abi Talib. The last Imam, the Mahdi,* who is present in the world, but is in occultation, will appear at an unknown time in the future, when he will fill the seething world with justice, and peace.
The ‘Shi’as’ Imamiyyas also believe that these twelve Imams have been ordained by Allah and have been introduced to us through the last Holy Prophet. The last of the Holy Imams has vanished from sight (by divine command), just as other Imams disappeared, during the time of previous prophets, as stated in many books written by *your ‘ulama’.*
This sacred being has been preserved by Allah Almighty so that he may one day fill the world with justice. In short, the ‘Shi’as’ believe in all that is contained in the Holy Qur'an, and in authentic ‘hadith’. I am grateful to Allah that I have adopted these beliefs, not merely in blind imitation of my parents, but through logical reasoning and study.
Hafiz: Respected sir, I am indeed obliged to you for having explained the ‘Shi’as’ beliefs, but there are ‘hadith’ and supplications in your books which run counter to your statements, and establish the heresy of the Shi’as.
Well-Wisher: Please be specific.
Objection on ‘hadith’ of ‘ma'rifa’ (tradition of knowledge of Allah)
Hafiz: In ‘Tafsir al-Safi’, written by one of your high-ranking ‘ulama’, Faiz Kashi, there is a ‘hadith’ that one day Imam Husain, the Martyr of Karbala, addressing his companions said: "O people, Allah Almighty has not created his servants but to know Him. When they knew Him, they worshipped Him, when they worshipped Him, they became adverse to worship of any other thing." One of the Companions said:
"May the lives of my father, and mother be sacrificed to you! O son of the Holy Prophet! What is the real meaning of knowing Allah?" The Holy Imam replied, "For every man to know Allah means to know the Imam of his time, who must be obeyed."
Well-Wisher: First, we must examine the chain of narrators of the ‘hadith’ in order to establish whether it is authentic. Even if it is correct with regard to the chain of narrators, yet the verses of the Holy Qur'an, and the unquestionable ‘hadith’ of the Holy Prophet in regard to the Oneness of Allah cannot be misconstrued because of the assertion of one man.
Why don't you examine the ‘hadith’ and sayings of our Holy Imams, and the religious dialogues between our religious heads and the atheists, which already prove the unity of Allah? Why don't you consult the chief books and commentaries of the Shi’as, such as ‘Tawhid al-Mufazzal’, ‘Tawhid al-Saduq’, Biharu'l-Anwar (Book of Tawhid) of Allama Majlisi and other books written by ‘Shi’as’ ‘ulama’, which are full of continuous ‘hadith’ (on Tawhid) by our Holy Imams?
Why don't you consult ‘An-Naktu'l-I'tiqadiyya’, by Sheikh Mufid (d. 413 A.H.), one of the ‘Shi’as’ ‘ulama’, and also his book ‘Awa'ilu'l-Maqalat fi'l-Mazahib wa'l-Mukhtarra’ or ‘Ihtijaj’ by our famous Alim, Abu Mansur Ahmad Ibn ‘Ali Ibn Abu Talib Tabrasi. If you had, you would know how our Holy Imam ar-Ridha’ proved the unity of Allah.
It is not fair to pick out some dubious report simply to malign the Shi’as. Your own books contain absurdities and whimsical ideas. In fact, ridiculous ‘hadith’ exist in your most authentic books like the ‘Siha al-Sitta’, (i.e., the Six Books of Accepted Traditions).
Continue reading > www.al-islam.org/peshawar-nights-sayyid-muhammad-al-musawi-al-shirazi/third-session-saturday-night-25th-rajab-1345-ah#belief-imams
I think you're mixing up between a sect and a Madhab.
All 4 Imams are Sunnis, meaning they follow the Quran and tye sunnahq, and the reason for which they have different opinions on minor issues is because one Imam received a hadith or a commentary of a certain Sahabi, that the other Imam didn't, so he based his opinion on it, but the other Imam didn't receive that Same Hadith therefore didn't rely on it to form his final opinion.
So their Opinions are actually based on evidence, as they spent their lives looking into these matters, so I really don't think you're qualified to pick and choose, as you don't have deep knowledge of the science of Isnad ( science of Hadith ) and sooner or later you'll have to follow one Madhab in certain issues.
It's not only about looking into Quran and Sunnah and following whatever seems logical to you.
Even Sahaba differed on some minor issues. The reality is, we're not qualified to refuse a ruling just because "humans are infallible", or because it doesn't make sense.
Quran is explained either by Quran, or by Sunnah, and sunnah is explained either by Sunnah or By Sahaba, and these imams based their Opinions on all of that,
What matters is that you won't be held accountable for following a specific madhab, as you're an ordinary Muslim not a scholar.
“you won’t be held accountable for following a specific madhab”... so we won’t be held accountable for our actions? she said nothing wrong, we definitely need to use our brains instead of being sheeple, if you’re following something then you’re following it, and you definitely will be held accountable for what you did on earth. Please educate yourself
And also, not all of the scholar’r statements (or should I say opinions) are based on evidence and no, they definitely did not spend their entire lives looking into these matters, most of them actually have been influenced by culture and cultural practices which have no god damn place in Islam. But unfortunately they become intertwined with Islam and so people think that’s the true Islam.
You’re making it sound like every single scholar is correct in everything the say and we can’t use our brain to process any information, we should just blindly follow it. Are the scholars not humans too? Do they not commit human error? Are you saying they’re like our Prophets?
@@ahuman5642 I am not saying every scholar is correct and that they don't make mistakes, don't put words in my mouth ( or fingers ) I am saying we, ordinary Muslims cannot know whether they really misjudged something or not, since we don't have the standards to do that, only God knows whether they're right or wrong, we simply follow what makes CLOSEST sense to our modern world without any biases to any scholar and that's it.
It's very simple and logical
Also some scholars are students of other scholars, yet they still have opposite opinions on some matters, so no, it's not only about culture and traditions, as we, Muslims are taught to prioritize religion and logic over culture.
Very sinp and clear.
Hello my love 😍 just wanted to say something please don’t take it negatively . I live for your content and been following you for quite some time :)
The problem with that is by saying “if this makes sense and it backed up by the Quran and sunnah, I follow it” we automatically assume that we know the evidences of the Quran and sunnah better then these scholars. And I doubt that .. All they did was study exactly this so they even know Ahadith we don’t know.. the schools of thought are a guideline, not an identification! Our identity is ISLAM as you said, and these scholars never said anything else . It’s what people have made .. as always :( Actually the difference of opinions in some subjects (schools of thought) are a blessing and mercy by Allah ! So we can decide “do I want to show my feet or not ?” And at the same time respect what the others are doing :) It’s good to pick one school and stick to it because the methods of interpreting are the same, but it’s not a fard to do so :) I am a revert too and I have never known which school to follow but I try and stick with hanafi because I have the easiest excess to his opinions. Asalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah 💕
its no matter to follow any school of thought till it not go against any sahih hadith, when u have sahih hadith u have to follow it
Subhanallah sister you are right.. thanks for helping me out to explain this situation to new revert brothers and sisters who just converted to this religion (Islam)..
@@puteratrust913 im indian muslim and i m very happy for you may ALLAH ease your hardship, i knw its very hard to learn in english because there are lack of good scholars who preach in english
Salaamun alaikum bro/sis.
Your Sunni books says Qur’an and **Ahlul-Bayt** and that is what the Shia say. Based on a parallel (Mutawatir) tradition upon whose authenticity all Muslims agree, the Messenger of Allah (S) informed his followers in several occasions that he would leave them two precious/weighty things and that if Muslims adhere to both of them, they will never go astray after him. They are the Book of Allah (Qur’an) and the Members of the House of the Prophet (Ahlul-Bayt), peace be upon them all.
It is narrated in Sahih Muslim as well as many other sources that:
Someday (after his last pilgrimage) the Messenger of Allah (S) stood to give us a speech beside a pond which is known as Khum (Ghadir Khum) which is located between Mecca and Medina. Then he praised Allah and reminded Him, and then said: "O’ people! Behold! It seems the time approached when I shall be called away (by Allah) and I shall answer that call. Behold! I am leaving for you two precious things. First of them is the book of Allah in which there is light and guidance...The other one is my Ahlul-Bayt. I remind you in the name of Allah about my Ahlul-Bayt. I remind you in the name of Allah about my Ahlul-Bayt. I remind you in the name of Allah about my Ahlul-Bayt. (three times)."
Sunni Reference:
• Sahih Muslim, Chapter of the virtues of the companions, section of the virtues of ‘Ali, 1980 Edition Pub. in Saudi Arabia, Arabic version, v 4, p1873, Tradition #36.
• And many others such as Sahih al-Tirmidhi, Musnad Ahmad (see below).
For the English version of Sahih Muslim, see Chapter CMXCVI, v4, p1286, Tradition #5920
Here is the Arabic text of the above tradition in Sahih Muslim:
قام رسول الله يوما فينا خطيبا بماء يدعى خما بين مكة والمدينة ، فحمد الله وأثنى عليه ، ووعظ وذكر ، ثم قال: أما بعد ، ألا أيها الناس ، فإنما أنا بشر ، يوشك أن يأتي رسول ربي فأجيب ، وأنا تارك فيكم ثقلين ، أولهما: كتاب الله ، فيه الهدى والنور ، فخذوا بكتاب الله ، واستمسكوا به ، فحث على كتاب الله ورغب فيه ، ثم قال: وأهل بيتي ، أذكركم الله في أهل بيتي، أذكركم الله في أهل بيتي ، أذكركم الله في أهل بيتي
As we can see in the above tradition in Sahih Muslim, not only Ahlul-Bayt has been put beside the Qur’an, but also it has been mentioned three times by the Prophet (S).
Despite the fact that the author of Sahih Muslim and many other Sunni traditionists have recorded the above tradition in their authentic books, it is regrettable that the majority of Sunnis are unaware of its existence at the best, or deny it at the worst. Their counter argument is that the most reliable tradition in this regard is the one recorded by al-Hakim in his al-Mustadrak, on the authority of Abu Huraira, attributing to the Messenger of Allah saying: "I leave amongst you two things that if you follow or act upon, you will not go astray after me: The Book of God and my Sunnah (traditions)."
There is no doubt that ALL Muslims are required to follow the Sunnah of the Prophet (S). However, the question remains that which Sunnah is genuine and which one is invented later and was falsely attributed to the Prophet.
On tracing the source of this report of Abu Huraira which states "Qur’an and Sunnah,”we found out that it has NOT been recorded in any of the six authentic Sunni collections of the traditions (Sihah Sittah). Not only that, but also al-Bukhari, al-Nisa’i, and al-Dhahabi and many others rated this report (Qur’an and Sunnah) as weak because of its weak Isnad. It should be noted that although the book of al-Hakim is an important Sunni collection of traditions, yet it is ranked inferior to the six major Sunni books. This is while Sahih Muslim is in the second rank among the six Sunni collections of traditions.
al-Tirmidhi reported that the "Qur’an and Ahlul-Bayt”version of the tradition is traced to 30+ companions. Ibn Hajar al-Haythami reported that he knows of 20+ companions witnessed that also. This is while the "Qur’an and Sunnah”version reported by al-Hakim has only one source! Thus we must conclude that the "Qur’an and Ahlul-Bayt”version is much more reliable. Moreover al-Hakim has also mentioned the "Qur’an and Ahlul-Bayt”version in his book (al-Mustadrak) through several chain of authorities and confirmed that the "Qur’an and Ahlul-Bayt”version of the tradition is authentic based on the criteria of al-Bukhari and Muslim.
Moreover, the word "Sunnah”by itself does not serve the purpose of knowledge. All Muslims irrespective to their persuasions claim that they follow the Sunnah of the Prophet (S). The differences among Muslims come from the transmitted Prophetic traditions through different avenues. Such traditions serve as explanatory means of the Holy Qur’an upon whose authenticity all Muslims agree.
Thus divergence in the transmitted traditions, which in turn has led to differing interpretation of Qur’an and the prophetic Sunnah, has created numerous versions of Sunnah. All Muslims, as a result, splintered into different schools, groups, offshoots, which is believed to add up to seventy three groups.
All of them are obeying their own version of Sunnah which they claim to be the true one. Which of these groups follow the true Sunnah of the Prophet? Which one (out of 73 groups) will be the prosperous one, and will survive? Other than the tradition of Sahih Muslim mentioned above, the following authentic traditions provide a unique detailed answer for this question:
The Messenger of Allah (S) said: "I am leaving for you two precious and weighty Symbols that if you adhere to BOTH of them you shall not go astray after me. They are, the Book of Allah, and my progeny, that is my Ahlul-Bayt. The Merciful has informed me that These two shall not separate from each other till they come to me by the Pool (of Paradise)."
Sunni references:
1. Sahih al-Tirmidhi, v5, pp 662-663,328, report of 30+ companions, with reference to several chains of transmitters.
2. al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim, Chapter of "Understanding (the virtues) of Companions, v3, pp 109,110,148,533 who wrote this tradition is authentic (Sahih) based on the criteria of the two Shaikhs (al-Bukhari and Muslim).
3. Sunan, by Daarami, v2, p432
4. Musnad, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v3, pp 14,17,26,59, v4, pp 366,370-372, v5, pp 182,189,350,366,419
5. Fadha’il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v2, p585, Tradition #990
6. al-Khasa’is, by al-Nisa’i, pp 21,30
7. al-Sawa’iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar Haythami, Ch. 11, section 1, p230
8. al-Kabir, by al-Tabarani, v3, pp 62-63,137
9. Kanz al-Ummal, by al-Muttaqi al-Hindi, Chapter al-Iti’sam bi Habl Allah, v1, p44.
10. Tafsir Ibn Kathir (complete version), v4, p113, under commentary of verse 42:23 of Qur’an (four traditions)
11. al-Tabaqat al-Kubra, by Ibn Sa’d, v2, p194, Pub. by Dar Isadder, Lebanon.
12. al-Jami’ al-Saghir, by al-Suyuti, v1, p353, and also in v2
13. Majma’ al-Zawa’id, al-Haythami, v9, p163
14. al-Fateh al-Kabir, al-Binhani, v1, p451
15. Usdul Ghabah fi Ma’rifat al-Sahaba, Ibn al-Athir, v2, p12
16. Jami’ al-Usul, Ibn al-Athir, v1, p187
17. History of Ibn Asakir, v5, p436
18. al-Taj al-Jami’ Lil Usul, v3, p308
19. al-Durr al-Manthoor, al-Hafidh al-Suyuti, v2, p60
20. Yanabi al-Mawaddah, al-Qundoozi al-Hanafi, pp 38,183
21. Abaqat al-Anwar, v1, p16
... and many more ...
إني تارك فيكم ما إن تمسكتم بهما لن تضلو بعدي أبدا:كتاب الله وعترتي أهل بيتي وهما لن يفترقا حتى يردا علي الحوض
Of course, any Muslim should follow the Sunnah of the Prophet (S), and as such, we, the Followers of Ahlul-Bayt, submit to the genuine (practice) Sunnah of the Holy Prophet of Islam (S) and consider it to be the only path of salvation. But the above tradition gives evidence to the fact that any so-called Sunnah (practice) which contradicts Ahlul-Bayt is NOT a genuine Sunnah and has been innovated later on by some pay-rolled individuals in support the tyrants.
That’s why the Prophet had emphasized so much on Ahlul-Bayt in loving them and following them since they carry his genuine Sunnah. And this is the basis of the Shi’a School of Thought (the School of Ahlul-Bayt). The Ahlul-Bayt of the Prophet who are raised in his house know more than anybody else about the Sunnah of the Prophet and what it entails, for as the proverb goes: "The people of Mecca know its paths better than anyone else."
For the sake of argument, if we accept that the two versions of the tradition ("Qur’an and Ahlul-Bayt”vs. "Qur’an and Sunnah") are both authentic, then one must submit to the interpretation that the word "my Sunnah”given by al-Hakim means the Sunnah which is derived through Ahlul- Bayt and not any other source, as it is evident from the Ahlul-Bayt version given by both Mustadrak al-Hakim and Sahih Muslim. Now let us take a look at the following tradition:
Narrated Umm Salama:
The Messenger of Allah said: "‘Ali is with Qur’an, and Qur’an is with ‘Ali. They shall not separate from each other till they both return to me by the Pool (of Paradise)."
Sunni references:
• al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim, v3, p124 on the authority of Umm Salama
• al-Sawa’iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar, Ch. 9, section 2, pp 191,194
• al-Awsat, by al-Tabarani; also in al-Saghir
• Tarikh al-Khulafaa, by Jalaluddin al-Suyuti, p173
Part 2
The above tradition gives evidence to the fact that Imam ‘Ali and Qur’an are non-separable. If we accept the "Qur’an and Sunnah”version to be authentic, then one can conclude that the one who carries the Sunnah of Prophet is Imam ‘Ali since he is the one who has been put beside Qur’an.
Interesting to see, al-Hakim has many other traditions about necessity of following Ahlul-Bayt, among which is the following tradition. This tradition is also narrated by many other Sunni scholars and is known as the "Tradition of the Ship”in which the Prophet (S) stated:
"Behold! My Ahlul-Bayt are like the Ark of Noah. Whoever embarked in it was SAVED, and whoever turned away from it was PERISHED."
إنَّما مثلُ أهلُ بيتي كَمَثل سَفينَةُ نوح
مَنْ رَكَبها نَجى و مَنْ تَخَلَّفَ عنها هَلكْ.
Sunni references:
1. al-Mustadrak, by al-Hakim, v2, p343, v3, pp 150-151 on the authority of Abu Dharr. al-Hakim said this tradition is authentic (Sahih).
2. Fadha’il al-Sahaba, by Ahmad Ibn Hanbal, v2, p786
3. Tafsir al-Kabir, by Fakhr al-Razi, under the commentary of verse 42:23, Part 27, p167
4. al-Bazzar, on the authority of Ibn Abbas and Ibn Zubair with the wording "drowned”instead of "perished".
5. al-Sawa’iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar Haythami, Ch. 11, section 1, p234 under Verse 8:33. Also in section 2, p282. He said this Hadith has been transmitted via numerous authorities.
6. Tarikh al-Khulafaa and Jami’ al-Saghir, by al-Suyuti
7. al-Kabir, by al-Tabarani, v3, pp 37,38
8. al-Saghir, by al-Tabarani, v2, p22
9. Hilyatul Awliyaa, by Abu Nu’aym, v4, p306
10. al-Kuna wal Asmaa, by al-Dulabi, v1, p76
11. Yanabi al-Mawaddah, by al-Qundoozi al-Hanafi, pp 30,370
12. Is’af al-Raghibeen, by al-Saban
The above tradition gives evidence to the fact that those who adopt the school of Ahlul-Bayt and follow them, shall be saved from the punishment of Hell, while those who run away from them shall meet with the fate of the one who tried to save his life by climbing up the mountain, with the only difference that whereas he (Noah’s renegade son) was drowned in water, but these people will be drowned the fire of Hell. The following tradition also confirms it:
The Prophet (S) said about Ahlul-Bayt:
"Do not be ahead of them for you will perish, do not turn away from them for you will perish, and do not try to teach them since they know more than you do!"
لا تتقدموهم فتهلكوا ولا تتخلفوا عنهم فتهلكوا ولا تعلموهم فإنهم أعلم منكم.
Sunni references:
1. al-Durr al-Manthoor, by al-Suyuti, v2, p60
2. al-Sawa’iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Ch. 11, section 1, p230, quoted from al-Tabarani, also in section 2, p342
3. Usdul Ghabah, by Ibn al-Athir, v3, p137
4. Yanabi’ al-Mawaddah, by al-Qundoozi al-Hanafi, p41, and P335
5. Kanz al-Ummal, by al-Muttaqi al-Hindi, v1, p168
6. Majma’ al-Zawa’id, by al-Haythami, v9, p163
7. Aqabat al-Anwar, v1, p184
8. A’alam al-Wara, pp 132-133
9. Tadhkirat al-Khawas al-Ummah, Sibt Ibn al-Jawzi al-Hanafi, pp 28-33
10. al-Sirah al-Halabiyyah, by Noor al-Din al-Halabi, v3, p273
Here is another one:
The Messenger of Allah (S) said: "My Ahlul-Bayt are like the Gate of Repentance of the Children of Israel; whoever entered therein was forgiven."
إنما مثل أهل بيتي فيكم مثل باب حطة في بنى إسرائيل من دخله غفر
Sunni References:
• Majma’ al-Zawa’id, by al-Haythami, v9, p168
• al-Awsat, by al-Tabarani, Tradition #18
• Arba’in, by al-Nabahani, p216
• al-Sawa’iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Ch. 11, section 1, pp 230,234
Another fairly similar tradition was recorded by al-Darqunti as well as Ibn Hajar in his al-Sawa’iq al-Muhriqah, Ch. 9, section 2, p193 where the Prophet (S) said: "‘Ali is the Gate of Repentance, whoever entered therein was a believer and whoever went out was an unbeliever."
The above tradition was in connection with verses 2:58 and 7:161 of Qur’an which describe the Gate of Repentance of Bani Israel. Those of companions of Moses who did not enter the Gate of the Repentance were lost in the desert for forty years, while those who did not enter the ark of Noah were drowned. Ibn Hajar concludes that:
"The analogy of the Ark of Noah signifies that those who love and honor the Ahlul-Bayt and derive from their guidance will be rescued from the darkness of opposition, and those who will turn against them will be drowned in the sea of ingratitude and will perish in the desert of insubordination and rebellion."
Sunni reference: al-Sawa’iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar, p. 91
Have we ever asked ourselves why the Prophet put so much emphasis on Ahlul- Bayt? Was is just because they were members of his family, or was it because they carried his true teachings (Sunnah) and they were the most knowledgeable individuals among his community after him?
Different versions of the Tradition of Two Weighty Things (al-Thaqalain) which prove conclusively that it is compulsory to follow the Qur’an and the Ahlul-Bayt, are not ordinary traditions. They are repeated many times and are related on the authority of more than thirty of the companions of the Holy Prophet (S) through various sources.
The Holy Prophet (S) repeated these words over and over again (and not merely in one isolated instance but on several occasions) publicly to show that it is compulsory to follow and obey the Ahlul-Bayt. He made the announcement during the Farewell Pilgrimage, on the day of Arafat, on the day of Ghadir Khum, on the return from Ta’if, also in Medina from the pulpit, and in his deathbed when the room was packed with his disciples, he said:
"O folk! I am soon going to depart from here, and although I have already told you, I repeat once more that I am leaving with you two things, namely, the Book of Allah and my descendants, that is, my Ahlul-Bayt.”Then he lifted ‘Ali by the hand and said: "Behold! this ‘Ali is with the Qur’an and the Qur’an is with him. These two shall never separate from each other until they come to me at the Pool of Kawthar."
Sunni reference: al-Sawa’iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar, Ch. 9, section 2
Ibn Hajar al-Haythami wrote:
"The Traditions of Adherence has been handed down through a large number of sources and more than twenty of the disciples have related it."
He further wrote:
"Here a doubt arises, and it is that while the Tradition has come down through various sources, some say that the words were spoken during the last pilgrimage, others that they were spoken at Medina when he lay on his deathbed and the room was packed with his disciples, yet another saying that he spoke these words at Ghadir Khum, or in another Hadith, on the return from Ta’if.
But there is NO inconsistency in these, since having regards to the importance and greatness of the Qur’an and the pure Ahlul-Bayt, and with a view of emphasizing the point before the people, the Holy Prophet might have repeated these words on all these occasions so that any one who had not heard them before might hear them now."
Sunni reference: al-Sawa’iq al-Muhriqah, by Ibn Hajar al-Haythami, Ch. 11, section 1, p230
Concluding the above traditions, the Qur’an and Ahlul-Bayt are the only two precious things that the Prophet left for Muslims, and stated that if Muslims follow BOTH of them, they will not go astray after him, and they will be led to Paradise, and that those who forsake Ahlul-Bayt will not survive. The above traditions have been designed by Prophet (S) to answer which "Sunnah”is genuine and which group caries the true "Sunnah”of the Prophet. It is aimed at not leaving Muslims at loss as to which way to go after the departure of the Prophet (S).
On the other hand, if we use the word "Sunnah”alone, it does not give us any specific answer for this question since all the groups among the Muslim nation follow their own version of Sunnah as well as their own interpretation of the Qur’an and Sunnah. Thus the prophetic instructions were clear in urging Muslims to follow the interpretation of Qur’an and the Sunnah of the Prophet transmitted through the channel of Ahlul-Bayt whose sinlessness, purity, and righteousness is confirmed by the Holy Qur’an (the last sentence of verse 33:33).
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This is what I needed! May Allah give you the highest ranks in Jannah! Beautifully explained❤
Sam I really love you and I hope I am not offending you and I really hope you read this.
I think none of us should have the confidence in their knowledge of the Quran and Sunnah to say that they don't need the schools of thought.
The scholars were the first generation of Muslims who never met the Prophet pbuh or his followers and so it makes sense that they had to bring about a system of understanding and practising Islam without having Muhammed pbuh to answer all their questions and doubts.
They don't disagree on any issues of faith but only relatively minor issues of practice. They are all correct even if their interpretation might differ at points. The only reason they differ is that when the scholars looked outside the same window some of them saw the sky others the trees. Neither is false and this richness of interpretation makes Islam easier to live as people can choose between them according to their lifestyles.
To give a basic example I live in a crowded city and I inevitably touch people on public transport etc. If I was a Shafi I'd have to take wudhu so often that it would make it very difficult for me to pray. But for someone who lives in a more rural area this is not an issue at all and being a Shafi brings them other benefits such as not being have to take wudhu again if they bleed etc.
Islam leaves room for personal ijtihad yet it should be done by people who have more knowledge than you do, who have dedicated their lives to this pursuit of knowledge for the sake of Allah. and by life I mean full time from an early age, not just reading books like you and I do aside our studies.
Lastly, I just want to add that there are some modern issues not covered by these main schools of thought. That doesn't mean we ignore them. And there comes in trustworthy contemporary scholars.
Allah has given us all a moral compass that tells us what is right and what is wrong. That often is our main point of reference. But for more complex issues that require greater knowledge I think it is arrogant to deny the scholars' contribution to our practice of Islam.
Bismillah ar rahmaan ar raheem,
Thank you for sharing Sam! This is just some constructive criticism:
Following a school of thought is simplified Islam for those who don't have knowledge. Not everyone is a person of knowledge. In the Indo-Pak region where I am from, I think it was necessary for Islam to be followed with a school of thought in order for those practices to become engraved as traditions. So long as following a school of thought does not create divide, shirk or biddah, then wouldnt it be okay to navigate your life with a school of thought? I think we have to lend a soft spot for those who genuinely did not know how to navigate life with many opinions. They needed a water downed version of Islam. So long as this water downed version did not create division or bring about shirk or make room for innovations. And of course, the superior one is the one who searches for the evidences from the Quran and Sunnah and rejects anything if an opinion feels stronger.
One can be brought up on the hanafi madhab as a reference point, but be open to other opinions. And I personally feel this is a wholesome way to seeking knowledge. To measure opinions against the Quran and Sunnah.
Allah knows better.
I'm a born Muslim in a Muslim country but moved to Europe as a baby w my family, and i have NEVER heard about all these different schools until not too long ago doing my own research on Islam, and I still don't know who to follow.. I've been living well all these years without them and so have my parents who are very religious..
Dear Samantha you are 100% right in all aspects of Islam and about the 4 schools of thought.Today really you surprised me that a young girl like you can say the way you said and explained. I wanted to hug you tightly and kiss you for being Masha Allah so knowledgeable. I wish our ummah instead of declining rose up and stop fighting for minor differences in the the schools of thought instead concentrate on the Quran and sunnah of prophet Mohammad pbuh. Islam is a very simple and easy to practice religion and we made it so complicated .In one of the videos of Mufti Menk a known scholar said that you can take things which you think are right from each scholar and leave the rest if you think have no proof or doesn’t make sense as you said. You don’t have to follow one of the school of thought to practice Islam as they said or did. Don’t worry about the criticism.They might criticize you ,but you are on the right path.I prayed for you that Allah on day of judgment award you the highest place in paradise. As you said if they understand and apply on them it’s better for them. If not at least you conveyed the message in a very sweet simple way so everybody can understand.I loved and enjoyed all your videos but this video is the best of all, because the topic you chose is an eye opener. A very strong message and very powerfully said with confidence. This is all because of your research in learning the true Islam and the right path. I wish for you and your family a happy and healthy life amen. I had a wish to meet you personally. I don’t know if I will be alive up till then. If you visit USA soon on visiting visa by chance let me know. You will be my guest. Keep up the good work. Give my love and kiss to your younger sister too. I love you because you are working hard and not waisting your time. Time is very precious, once gone never comes back.
There were countless School of Thought... but the 4 were the ones that most popular n survive the test of time.
Thus guys n girls dun worry to much, and especially plss dun be rigid. all School of Thought leads to same path in the end..
Sam!! was nice of you to highlight this matter...!!. appreciate it..
Exactly what went through my mind months ago. Our people are following the Hanafi school of fikh. But as I looking at different schools of fikh, some hadith they have is really authentic. So I was confused on which school should I follow. Then I figured out that everything leads to the authenticity of the hadith and not just following a specific teachings without looking for a strong proof behind. As we all know the four scholars did their best in their time. And we have to pick the best for us.
Yes 🙌🏽🙌🏽 perfectly said Alhumdulilah
I don't know if you will see my comment but I think it's import for the futur viewers.
First of all what's a madhab (school) in fiqh?
It's a school based on the methodology of the 4 Imams (Malik, Abu Hanifa, Shafi'i, Hanbal), these 4 imams based their methodology on the methodology of some Sahaba (Ibn Abbas etc).
What's the Usul al fiqh?
Roots of law. The body of principles and investigative methodologies through which practical legal rules are developed from the foundational sources. Based on the Qur'an, the Sunnah etc
So the maliki follow Imam Malik, the hanafi follow imam Abu Hanifa etc?
No, it's a big mistake. The maliki follow the methodology of Imam Malik etc however scholars have since diverged with the founding imams so if you want to refute a school you have to refute all the scholars of this school.
is this or that school lost in relation to another?
No, they are all Muslims and recognize themselves as such.
I hope to have been clear.
Couldn’t agree with more ,perfectly articulated ❤️
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THANK YOU for this video!! ❤️❤️❤️
It’s quite complicated! Alhamdulillah I don’t classify in any of them and I don’t reject either..it’s so simple to follow the Quran and the sunnah..because the prophet himself said there will come a time whereby there’s going to be a lot of sectors so hold on to the Quran and my sunnah..
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@Fatmina Mohamed - *"hold on to the Quran and my sunnah.."*
Assalamu alaikum
The tradition of two precious things (i.e. Hadith at-Thaqalayn) is one of the popular and widely accepted traditions among the Muslims-Sunni and Shia alike. The only point of disparity among them has to do with the primary content of the said tradition. The Sunni majority are of the opinion that the two precious things according to the Holy Prophet (s.a.w.a) are Qur’an and Sunnah while their Shia counterparts are of the view that the two precious things are Qur’an and the Ahlul-Bayt (i.e. The Prophet’s Household). Without any doubt, this difference has indeed brought about so many disparities in the understanding and comprehension of Islam and in the interpretations of most of its laws among the adherents of the two major schools of thought. Thus, in an attempt to resolve this lingering difference and conflict of opinion, the following analyses were carried out on the tradition:
1. The traditions referring to Qur’an and Ahlul-Bayt as the two precious things are unanimously agreed upon by all traditionists and historians of both sects as an authentic and reliable (Sahih) tradition. Besides, these traditions (with variations in expression) are found in many reliable Shia and Sunni books of Hadith (such as Sahih Muslim, Sahih Tirmidhi, Masnad Ahmad, Mustadrak Sahihayn, Kanz al Ummah etc.) with different chains of narration. Whereas, the tradition referring to Qur’an and Sunnah as the two precious things is a single narration (i.e Awhad) and it is not originally found in any of the Sunni six authentic books of Hadith (i.e. Sihahu Sitta).
2. The Prophet of Islam (s.a.w.a) at his death-bed was prevented from writing his last wills to the Muslims by Caliph Umar while saying: “The book of Allah (i.e. Qur’an) is enough for us” (Ref.: www.al-islam.org/shiite-...; Hadith of the pen and paper - Wikipedia). Thus, if the Prophetic saying or practice (i.e. Sunnah) could have been considered by the Sunni as one of the two precious things (Thaqalayn), why would Umar prevented him while claiming to be satisfied with the Qur’an alone?
3. During the Caliphates of Abubakar and Umar, recording and even the narration of the Prophetic traditions was prohibited on the basis that the Book of Allah was enough. The violators against this rule were seriously punished. In addition, after the demise of the Prophet (s.a.w.a), it was on recorded that Abubakar collected several traditions of the Prophet (s.a.w.a) and set them on fire. (Ref.: www.al-islam.org/prohibi...). And upon this background, there was never a book of Hadith (among the Sunni Muslims) until about one hundred years after Hijrah during the Caliphate of Umar Ibn AbdulAzeez. Therefore, if Sunnah was considered one of the two precious things as claimed by the Sunni, why was the recording or narration of the Prophetic Hadith prohibited by the Caliphs then? Likewise, which Sunnah were those Muslims during the periods followed if there were no record of it?
4. Qur’an is an everlasting and eternal miracle of the Prophet of Islam (s.a.w.a). It is protected by Allah from any form of alteration, but the Prophetic traditions, particularly during the Umayyad dynasty were seriously altered and tampered with, thereby making some traditions to be considered weak (i.e Daif) or fabricated. Thus, Hadith or Sunnah becomes a major area of conflicts among the Muslims now and in the past. Then, how could an object of conflict becomes the remedy against the disparity?
Undoubtedly, there is need for selected individuals who are infallible and well-versed in the Qur’an and the Prophetic traditions in order to present the correct interpretations of the Qur’an as well as the Prophetic Sunnah. Those individuals are none saves the Prophet’s Household (i.e. Ahlul-Bayt).Thus, in light of the aforementioned points, one will come to the conclusion that the two precious things (i.e. Thaqalayn) prescribed by the Holy Prophet (s.a.w.a) are Qur’an and Ahlul-Bayt (AS) and not Qur’an and Sunnah.
www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235043277-quran-and-sunnah-or-quran-and-ahlul-bayt/
@@godisjust591 quote a verse on Imama from the Qur'an
@@OnePunchMuslim Why the Shia Imams (asws) were not Named explicitly in the Quran?
‘I asked Abu Abdullah (Shia 6th Imam asws) about the Words of Allah (azwj) Mighty and Majestic O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the Rasool and those with (Divine) Authority from you [4:59]. So he (asws) said: ‘It was Revealed regarding Ali Bin Abu Talib (asws), and Al Hassan (asws), and Al Husayn (asws’).
So I said to him (asws), ‘The people are saying, ‘So why did Allah (azwj) not Name Ali (asws) and his (asws) Family in the Book of Allah (azwj) Mighty and Majestic?’
He (asws) said: ‘So say to them, ‘The Salat was Revealed unto Rasool-Allah (saww), and Allah (azwj) did not Specify for them, whether it was three or four, until it was RasoolAllah (saww) who interpreted that for them. And the Zakat was Revealed unto him (saww), but it was not specified for them that it was one Dirham out of forty Dirhams, until it was Rasool-Allah (saww) who interpreted that for them. And the Hajj was Revealed and it was not Said to them: “Perform Tawaaf seven times”, until it was Rasool-Allah (saww) who interpreted that for them.
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‘Rasool-Allah (S) said: ‘What is the matter with the people that when the Progeny of Ibrahim (A) is mentioned in their presence, they are happy and joyful, but when the Progeny of Muhammad (S) is mentioned in their presence, their hearts are constricted?
By the One in Whose hand is the soul of Muhammad (S), if a servant were to come on the Day of Judgement with the deeds of seventy Prophets (A) , Allah would not Accept that from him until he attaches these with my Wilayah and the Wilayah of the People of my Household’.
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
And We will proceed to what they have done of deeds, so We shall render them as scattered floating dust
The Holy Quran [25:23]
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THE HOLY QURAN CHAPTER 25 VERSE 23
In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful.
[25:23] And We will proceed to what they have done of deeds, so We shall render them as scattered floating dust
In a lengthy Hadeeth from Imam Al-Baqir (asws), when Abu Is’haq said, ‘And I find that the ones from your (asws), enemies, and the ones who are hostile to you (asws), (Nasibi), are the ones who are frequent in the Prayers, and the Fasts, and the taking out of AlZakat, and the going to the Pilgrimage (Al-Hajj) and the Umrah, and inciting to the Jihad, and enjoining to the righteousness, and for the maintaining of relationships, and the fulfilment of the rights of their brothers, and considering them equal with their wealth, and they keep away from drinking of intoxicants, and the adultery, and the sodomy, and the rest of the immoralities?’
Imam (asws), replied: ‘And if the Nasibi is upon what he is upon, from what you have described the qualities of his actions, even I (asws), were to give him what is between the East and the West of the gold and silver that he should decline from the love of the tyrants and their friends, and to be your friends, he would neither do it nor decline from it.
And if I (asws), were to strike them (Shiah) with the swords among them, and I (asws), were to do this among them, they would neither turn back nor return (to Kufr). However, when one of them (Nasabi) hears some of your praises and merits, he would become constricted by that, and his colour would change, and his abhorrence would become apparent in his face and his hatred for you (Shias) and their love for them’.
He (the narrator) said, ‘Al-Baqir (asws), smiled, then said: ‘O Ibrahim! Here is where they are destroyed [88:3] Labouring, hostile one (Nasibi) [88:4] Entering into burning fire [88:5] Made to drink from a boiling spring. And from that, Allah (azwj) Mighty and Majestic Said [25:23] And We will proceed to what they have done of deeds, so We shall render them as scattered floating dust’.
@@godisjust591 we don't accept shia sources. Secondly I asked you a simple question. Where is imama in the Qur'an
interesting topic but a complicated one for the average lay person. All 4 schools of thought trace back to the sahabah, even the sahabah disagreed on fiqh issues but on aqeedah they were united as is with the schools of thought, they're not sects, as ibn taymiyyah states in his book...all 4 madhabs are waahid (one/united) on the deen...the field of hadith and quranic sciences is complicated and requires years of dedication to understand, ie how the hadith have been extracted and the chain of narrators etc so for an average person to decide these things is difficult as they have no understanding of the field. To avoid confusion the general consensus between the scholars is to seek advice/knowledge from your local imam on issues. Furthermore people can make the mistake of picking and choosing things to fulfil their desires which makes a mockery of deen as jurisprudence is their to provide guidelines for shariah. The hanafi madhab is quite strict on a lot of issues whereas imam malik was lenient and classed a lot of things makruh (disliked) rather than haraam, so sometimes people of hanafi fiqh look for loopholes to fulfil their needs which is wrong. However if your intention is sincere and you truly research on a matter and feel more inclined towards one opinion than the other then that is absolutely fine. In general for an average person it is better to follow a school of thought, to avoid confusion. Allah has created everyone on a different level in terms of intellect so we should strive to achieve the maximum of our given capacity. May Allah guide us all and keep us on the straight path. Ameen.
@butty249er *"as ibn taymiyyah states in his book...all 4 madhabs are waahid (one/united) on the deen"*
Assalamu alaikum
The fact that Ibn Taimiyah pretended to be an Ashari when actually he was not, proves that he was prepared to hide his beliefs before the Sunni Ulema if it meant getting an early prison release date. The same is the case with these fatwas that Ibn al Hashimi cited. These were there merely to convince the Sunni clergy of the time that he adhered to the Ashari creed on loving the Ahl’ul bayt (as). The reality was very different, and to prove this allow us to present to our readers the venom that he spewed against the Ahl’ul bayt (as). The facts that we shall present is not hearsay testimony from some obscure secondary Rafidi source. These are the words from them pen of Ibn Taimiyah himself.
Ibn Taimiyah’s acerbic views of Imam Ali bin Abi Talib (as)
While comparing Abu Bakar with Ali bin Abi Talib (as), Ibn Taimiyah states in Minhaj al-Sunnah, Volume 7 page 331:
وان ولايته الأمة خير من ولاية علي وان منفعته للمسلمين في دينهم ودنياهم اعظم من منفعة علي
“His reign is better than Ali’s reign and his benefit to Muslims in their religion and life is greater than Ali’s”
Minhaj al-Sunnah, Volume 8 page 230:
وعلي يقاتل ليطاع ويتصرف في النفوس والأموال فكيف يجعل هذا قتالا على الدين
“Ali fought to secure obedience and rule the people and money, so how can that be deemed as fighting for sake of religion?”
We read in Minhaj al-Sunnah, Volume 8 page 205:
وأما إسلام علي فهل يكون مخرجا له من الكفر على قولين
There are two opinions as to whether Ali’s conversion to Islam released him from kufr or not”
Minhaj al-Sunnah, Volume 4 page 137:
وعلي رضي الله عنه كان قصده أن يتزوج عليها فله في أذاها غرض
“Ali intended to marry so as to hurt her (Fatima) on purpose.”
Minhaj al-Sunnah, Volume 7 page 172:
وقد أنزل الله تعالى في على يا أيها الذين آمنوا لا تقربوا الصلاة وأنتم سكارى حتى تعلموا ما تقولون لما صلى فقرا وخلطوا
“Allah had revealed for Ali {O ye who believe! Draw not near unto prayer when ye are drunken, till ye know that which ye utter,} when he prayed and recited and then got mixed up.”
Minhaj al-Sunnah, Volume 7 page 172:
قال النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم وكان الإنسان اكثر شيء جدلا لما قال له ولفاطمة إلا تصليان فقالا أنما أنفسنا بيد الله سبحانه وتعالى.
The prophet said to them ‘{but man is more than anything contentious}’. When he said to him (Ali) and Fatima, ‘Wont you pray?’ They replied: ‘Our souls are in the hands of Allah (swt)’
Minhaj al-Sunnah, Volume 3 page 53:
فإنه لما أمرهم بقيام الليل فاعتل علي رضي الله عنه بالقدر وأنه لو شاء الله لأيقظنا علم النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم أن هذا ليس فيه إلا مجرد الجدل الذي ليس بحق فقال وكان الإنسان أكثر شيء جدلا.
“When he (the Prophet) ordered them to offer the night prayer, Ali (ra) came up with the prepared excuse that ‘if Allah wants he will wake us up’, the prophet realized that this was merely an argument that was not right, therefore he recited {but man is more than anything contentious}“.
Minhaj al-Sunnah, Volume 8 page 161:
وعلي قد اختلف فيه هل حفظ القرآن كله أم لا
“Ali, there is disagreement about him as to whether he had memorized the whole Quran or not.”
Minhaj al-Sunnah, Volume 6 page 67:
ولم يحصل بقتلهم مصلحة للمسلمين لا في دينهم ولا في دنياهم بل نقص الخير عما كان وزاد الشر
“Their fighting served no benefit for the Muslims in their religion nor in their life, on the contrary the good had been decreased and the evil had been increased.”
Minhaj al-Sunnah, Volume 4 page 20:
قوله في على إنه كان يصلي الف ركعة فإن هذا لا فضيلة فيه
“His (Allamah Heli’s) statement that Ali would pray one thousand raka, surely there is no virtue in it”
Relevantly, comments like the above that we cited that were so outrageous that we read in Lisan al-Mizan, by ibn Hajar, Volume 6, page 320:
“The exaggeration in refuting the Rafidhi text has sometimes taken him to towards belittling Ali (ra)”
Ibn Taimiyah’s proud testimony that Ahle Sunnah don’t follow Ali bin Abi Talib (as)
Click and continue reading > www.shiapen.com/comprehensive/ibn-taimiyah/hatred-towards-ahulbayt.html
Assalamualaikum Sister. I would like to share some of my knowledge of the particular subject. I think that it's not possible for one practising Muslim to not follow and practice any school of thought since it is the only link from the generation of Salafus Shalih. I think that you might be confused between madzhab and manhaj. In your video, I get that mostly you refer to the manhaj and topics of Taqlid and Ittiba', which are very delicate subject in term of taking your position to actually choose/accept (a madzhab) or not to choose/accept it. There are also some cases of Tarjih and Talfiq which is very close with Ikhtilaf subjects between Ulama. I want you to look it up and I guarantee that it would be interesting for you, it will certainly deepening your understanding of the particular subject you are talking about in the video. To make it simple, try to imagine that the madzhab (Imam Hanafi, Imam Malik, Imam Syafi'i, and Imam Hambali) as the pathways that lead to the right way, which is manhaj. I am afraid that many Muslim person out there interprets your video in the wrong way, and actually exploit Tarjih, Talfiq, Ruhsah for personal interest by 'cherry-picking' the most easy way from each madzhab. Knowing that, I request you to make a follow up for this video to clarify more about the subject. I agree that every Muslim should be on the right manhaj, and honoring difference of any madzhab preference. But, not following any madzhab, is sound absurd (sorry, no offense). You can't practice Ibadah without following one of the main four because you must taqlid at certain point. I wish that Allah keep enlighten you in the straight path and tawakkal on doing Tolabul Ilm of this deen and dunya for the sake of the Al-Haqq.
Gudang Pita this comment is perfect and I 100% agree.
Cherry picking is not a methodology issue, it's an issue with desires. Methodology is following scholarly opinions which are closer to evidences as long as you are able to make sense of it. Where you are not able to make sense, you follow an ahlul hadeeth scholar as he is trusted to adopt a ruling which agrees with evidences. Using Arabic terminology won't make wrong correct my friend
*"try to imagine that the madzhab (Imam Hanafi, Imam Malik, Imam Syafi'i, and Imam Hambali) as the pathways that lead to the right way,"*
Assalamu alaikum
“If a person does not know the naasikh and the mansukh and the muhkam and the mutashabih they do not know the Quran and they have no relation with the Quran whatsoever.”
Imam Jafar al Sadiq (as) was eating food with Abu Hanifa and after finishing Imam Jafar (as) expressed gratitude like this: “I thank Allah, Who is the Sustainer of All Worlds, O Allah this was a blessing from You *as well as from your Prophet(pbuh).”*
Upon hearing this Abu Hanifa said: “O Abu AbdAllah! You have included “someone else” alongside Allah” *(shirk)*
Imam Jafar al-Sadiq (as) replied: “Be Careful, Allah says in His Book: “If only they had been content with what Allah *and His Messenger* had gave them, and had said, ‘Sufficient unto us is Allah! Allah and *His Messenger* will soon give us out of their Kindness.” [Holy Quran 9:59]
And at another place Allah says: “…..And they only stayed in opposition because Allah *and His Messenger* enriched them out of His grace…” [Holy Quran 9:74]
After listening to these verses from Imam Jafar (as), Abu Hanifa said: “By Allah, it seems I have never read or heard someone reciting these verses of the Holy Quran before.”
Imam Jafar al Sadiq (as) said: “No, its not like this! You have not only heard these verses before but also have read them. However, Allah says for you and people like you: “Will they then not meditate on the Quran, or are there *locks on the hearts?”* [Holy Quran 47:24]
And says: “Nay, but that which they have earned is *rust upon their hearts.”* [Holy Quran 83:14]
I'll try to educate myself more and get back to this thread. 😊
These Scholars where the closest to the time of the prophet and were trained in faqīh (interpretation of the Islamic laws). Its best to follow one school of thought as they all make jtihad (deriving ruling based on sunnah). There is a hadeeth of the prophet that said if two people make jtihad and come to two different opinions they're both right (provided they had good intentions). Why i say follow one so you're no tempted to follow your desires. For example, say this school of thought doesn't allow interest, while another school of thought allows it for first home buyers, you will go with second because the ruling aligns better with your desires. Then the same school you followed for that first examples say women can't drive while the other you disagreed with says you can, so you like not following that school of thought I want to drive. These are made up examples none of the school of thoughts encourage interest dealing but there are shiekh's that do say that and people follow them because they're making jtihad. In saying that if a school of thought has something against quran and sunnah then disregard it. But these school of thoughts been there for ages and although theres slight variation nothing goes against the main teachings.
Couldn't agree with you more. I think it's important to just remember that we will be judged by our intentions. Imagine on the day of Judgement being asked, "why did you do this?" and our answer is, "because I was following a person" when it should be, 'because I believed it was the way of the Qur'an and Sunnah".
Have you considered following the Quran and Ahlul Bayt?
007VitaminD i am shia girl( pakistani hazara),we shia muslim first follow Quran and Prophet s.a.w ,and then Ahlebait a.s..
Yeah, also sometimes the conclusions they draw from “evidence” do not make sense… like sometimes they make jumps, leaps that are not really supported… then I go look for another scholarly opinion that might have real evidence that makes sense… ultimately we have to feel comfortable with an opinion that we feel is genuinely supported by evidence and makes sense
Don't blindly follow. Follow the evidences. Samantha good on you for being balanced اللهم بارك
Alhamdulillah ur thoughts about islam on right way just stay on ur way subhanallah
Here in Egypt we follow all the the four schools because we respect all our Sunni imams and we are all sunis☺️☺️
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I'm finnish revert and here as well mostly muslims are not following any particular school, but all four. 🕋
I as a born muslim don't follow any school of thought either for the same reasons!! Even a women at the time of the Prophet pbuh corrected Umar Ra even though he was one of the greatest Sahaba. That's the beauty of Islam. We have the right to question anyone that isn't following the Qur'an and sunnah. Just like Allah says in the Qur'an "...they have taken their rabbis and their priests as their lords.." This is exactly what many muslims are doing by blindly following the scholars. We should be very careful where we get our religious knowledge from.
I’m exactly like you! Ignore people who bring you down
First of all the authentic hadiths is called SahiiH and I agree with you on following the way of the prophet (pbuh). I admire those scholers and the scholers of the hadith may Allah mercy on them all. It's nice that you using Arabic words of praising instead of translating them into English, it shows that you came long way from being a new revert. Remember always saying all things in Arabic is very important in Islam. Anything else is interpretation of the meaning. Very beneficial. Keep up the good work.
TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU
I think that the fact that you are questioning those schools of thought rather shows that you're very educated then and educated because actually this is exactly the method that is also used to get to scientific conclusions if that makes sense 🤔😘
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May Allah bless you and your family Sam
what, people there ask a lot of questions, why? is not mandatory to follow one school as individuals, the only way I think that we have to disuse that subject is, just to reduce the disagreements of the ummah who live together in one territory nothing else.
Asamam alikom Thanks you sister this was one of the best video may Allah grant you jannh insha Allah sister your in the right path away from blind faith and bida make Doha for all Muslims of the world to come closer to haq and deny the batil
I completely agree with you that schools of thought can cause divisions in the Ummah just as sects do. Thank you for this video, hopefully it will encourage people to use their intellect as opposed to just following naively.
The point is there is no different in faith between these 4 suni schools of thought.
*Very Informative Video, well Done Sister. Hei TH-cam Recommend this video Over and over.*
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I love you too!!
So wise of you, young lady! I was born Muslim, but my parents detested Sunni-Shia arguments or ones over madhab. Our Prophet (PBUH) was just a Muslim.
I didn’t follow a particular school of thought and just went by hadith. That is until I was told that even the greatest scholars of this ummah followed one school and that we aren’t qualified to just read a couple of hadith and make our minds up about what is best to do. I realized how arrogant and ignorant I was and I’m now sticking to the hanafi. I’m honestly just very split and see the school as an easy way out for me.
It’s definitely not a matter of reading a couple of Hadith or making your own rulings. But when you think about it, these scholars were making rulings based on the information they had available to them. There could be soooo much information that they didn’t have. So for them, these rulings were correct and there would have been no fault for the people at the time that followed them. But Alhumdulilah we now have access to all 4 opinions and much more Hadith. These teachers learnt off eachother too and didn’t ever push their views. We have sooo much information available to us, so we shouldn’t be neglecting that gift that Allah has given us and we should use all the information we are given, following the strongest opinionsZ
By a couple of hadith I mean Muslim's collections, his recordings seem insignificant in the great sea of narrations I have yet to read. I completely get where you come from; being 'hanafi' which I say with great reluctance, makes it really weird for me to read sound hadith about how the prophet raised his hands before and after ruku, and then ignoring them because it wasn't a part of this particular scholars practice. I think the best thing for me is to rely on the scholars in areas in which I don't have knowledge and practice accordingly when I do gain on other areas.
MashaAllah my sister, you have been blessed with the mindset of a true muslim, may Allah keep your heart strong and may your prayers be answered Ameen👍
Assalamualikum..i love you ..from Indonesia
Woke up to see this video alhamdulillah.
I don’t follow a particular one either. While I acknowledge they are well learnt Islamic scholars (may Allah blessings be upon them) and I do follow their rulings based on their evidences. I think sometimes people forget that we should not follow their opinions in all situations and at all times, because they are humans and not prophets and thereby may make mistakes.
At the end of the day, I know the Qur’an has been perfected for us and the sunnah was carried out by the chosen prophet (SA).
Masha’allah, good topic sis 💕
Also why would they come for you? What you said is perfectly fine haha
Yessss!!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽 subhanallah a lotttt of people disagree!!
Samantha J Boyle haha I wasn’t surprised we more or less mentioned the same points ☺️ masha’allah
but you may get confused because of the amount of hadeeths that are huge in number, they spent their life memorizing thousands and thousands of hadiths and they made it easy for us and all of them have their strength and weaknesses and which everyone makes sense to you follow it because it may give us clear understanding of fiqh
As you mentioned, there are some differences among the scholars in Islam schools of thoughts in secondary problems abut not in the foundation or basics. This should be healthy for different Islam communities with different daily life needs and practices and with different cultures. In general, I agree with your way of thinking.
One last point 3 out 4 imams of the suni schools of thought were students of one and another. Imam Ahmed was the student of imam Shafi . I man Shafi was student of iman Malik. Also imam Bu khari , muslim , abu dawoud and ....were students of Imam Ahmed.
There are lots of differences between 'school of thoughts". eg, One said you can eat shellfish, others said if you do, you would go to hell (haram). Each school of thoughts is a religion by itself.
@Samantha *"Scholars like Bukhari ......."*
“It was not just Imam Sadiq (as) that Imam Bukhari refrained from taking Hadith from, he did not take any from four of the pure Ahl’ul bayt Imams who existed during his lifetime, namely:
The eighth Imam Ali Raza (as) (d. 209 Hijri), this was that Imam that at one time in Nishabur had more than twenty thousand scholars who benefited from listening to and recording Hadith, attendees included high ranking scholars of Hadith such Hafidh Abu Zurai Radhi (d.264 Hijri), Hafidh Muhammad Aslam Tusi (d.242 Hijri) Isaac bin Rai.
The ninth Imam, Imam Taqi (as) (d. 220 Hijri).
The tenth Imam, Imam Naqi (as) (d.245 Hijri).
The eleventh Imam, Imam Hasan Askari (as) (d.260 Hijri).
Imam Bukhari lived during the times of these four Imams yet did not take narrations from them. Imam Bukhari’s esteemed book Sahih al Bukhari is empty with Hadith from the Ahl’ul bayt Imams, even though Hadith from the Ahl’ul bayt is something that could be located in the house of the Prophet and there is a well known saying ‘No one knows the going on inside a house than the people of that house’.
Imam Bukhari should have narrated Hadith from the Imams from the Ahl’ul bayt of the Prophet since they had Hadith in their possession”
We do not say that Imam Bukhari did this due to hatred, rather we say that it was due to difficulties that he did not narrate from the Ahl’ul bayt Imams. Muhammad bin Ismaeel Bukhari (d.256 Hijri) was alive during the Abbaside era, when he collated Hadith. When he said ‘In Sahih Bukhari the Hadeeth narrated are Sahih, and I have left a great many of Sahih Hadeeth’. Abdul Haleem Jundi said ‘Imam Bukhari was indicating that the Hadith that he had omitted were those in the honour of Hadhrath Ali and the Ahl’ul bayt. Imam Bukhari through his fear of the Abbaside Khalifa could not incorporate them in his Sahih al Bukhari”
Subeh Sadiq fi Fadail Imam Jafar Sadiq, pages 195-196
Further research > www.shiapen.com/comprehensive/sunni-myth-love-adherence-ahlulbayt-as/blasphemous-views-on-ahlulbayt-as.html
Following a school of thought can lead you on the right path but follow Quran and Hadith more.
yeah I agree but first knowing the aqeedah and then the usul al fiqh will help you to understand clearly our deen and help us to understand hadiths much more so I prefer to learn it in this order
@@kavink9310 yes I agree with you.
Tbh I think the same is true for Muslims who were born and raised in Muslim countries because often even the scholars never mention the necessity of following a certain madhhab. If someone asks for a fatwa they might mention the other opinions from the other schools of thought and then give their opinion, just to show that there is a different perspective that a person might want to consider. We very rarely hear the people of knowledge urging Muslims to stick to one madhab; in fact, this whole issue is more common amongst the general public, based on what I've seen/experienced and this may be different from person to person.
But I really enjoyed this video and I completely agree that a Muslim, and especially a Muslim, should not be limited to one way of thinking and other opinions are allowed so long as it does not fall into what is unanimously agreed as wrong/impermissible or falls into a grey area where you can't be sure of what is right or wrong.
I agree 100%!
Have you ever considered making a video about music? I feel like many people think it’s allowed nowadays. Before converting I was obsessed with it but alhamdulilah now I gave it up. So many muslims around me think it’s not a big deal.
I haveee considered and I do want to do one but it’s honestly a really complicated topic so I’m planning on waiting until I feel comfortable enough. There’s so many arguments that people use about music “not being haram” and honestly I feel like I haven’t heard them all 😅 so I’m waiting until I’ve heard them all so that I can explain in a way that’ll make sense to those people who have been taught something completely different.
Samantha J Boyle Yes it’s definitely not an easy one! I’ll wait for it in sha Allah
Chiara Lombardo yes thanks girl we need a video like this. Am addicted to music and I need to study more. I failed biology because I was playing music and doing essays instead.
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I get what you're trying to say but for most of the regular people like us, who have limited knowledge on our deen, we cannot say something is incorrect or doesn't follow the sunnah or Quran just because it doesn't make sense to us. For those of us who do not have extensive knowledge in Islam, I believe it is important to have a school of thought that you reference and follow in times of when you have questions or need guidance. You may not know the accurate interpretation of the verses of the Quran or Hadith to judge by yourself. Otherwise, we may end up accidently doing "fatwa shopping" when looking for answers. This means, knowingly or unknowingly, we start cherry picking the rules and guidelines from different schools of thoughts simply because-through our limited knowledge-they seem to make more sense or are beneficial for us.
Likewise, having a school of thought to follow doesn't make it a sect, nor are Muslims segregating themselves. It's not like the Shia and Sunni. Its not like Catholics and Protestants (in which they were literally at war with each other). After all, the core message of Islam is still the same. Let's not be pessimistic!
Subhanallah If you're a new Muslim reading this comment, do not begin analyzing and determining what makes sense to you. Instead find a scholar, someone you really trust to be knowledgeable.
"*It's not like the Shia and Sunni."*
Assalamu alaikum
Then what is it like?
Sects
A sect is a subgroup of a religious, political, or philosophical belief system, usually an offshoot of a larger group. Although the term was originally a classification for religious separated groups, it can now refer to any organization that breaks away from a larger one to follow a different set of rules and principles.
As a direct result of the above mentioned difference, the Sunnis say that Allah can be seen. Some of them, like Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal, say that He can be seen in this world, as well as in the life hereafter. Others say that He can be seen in the life hereafter only.
On the other hand, we, the Ithna 'asharis, say that He cannot be seen anywhere, because He has no body, and because Allah says in the Qur’an:
“Sight cannot reach Him" (6:103).
The Sunnis use the following verse as their proof:
"Some faces on that day (of judgement) will be fresh, looking towards their Lord" (75:22-23).
But in the Arabic language, the word “nazar” does not imply ‘seeing’. Often it is said: ‘nazartu ilal hilal falam arahu’ (I looked towards the new moon but I did not see it). Therefore, the verse cannot imply that they will see God. According to our interpretation, it means that they will be looking forward for the blessings of Allah.
www.al-islam.org/sects-islam-sayyid-saeed-akhtar-rizvi/can-allah-be-seen
Nicely said sister, i agree with your idea of not being stuck to one School of Thought, My favourite Sheikhs in my country, when asked about a question, they don't only answer in the School of Thought they follow, instead, they tell us what all the School of Thoughts say about the particular thing and all their arguments, and then let us take decision on which one makes more sense and has enough evidence, as it should be.
That’s amazing that they do that Alhumdulilah 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
Yes, It is really helpful.
I am in agreement. I was not given the oppertuinty to search myself. The 4 schools made a bigger split. Hanafi thinks of themselves better then the Shafie etc. I know this as in cape town south africa this trend is crazy. Each school has its own way of life even. Its crazy confusing.
Assalamualiakum
Excellent for a revert, away from Muslim population and in her early twenties!
May Allah bless you with the Fiqh of His Deen.
Just my curiosity, when anyone says that they don't follow any particular school of thought then such people are usually of two types:
1) those that say that there is no shia and sunni in Qur'an. I'm only a Muslim, who follows Qur'an and Hadith. Labelling oneself is causing sects.
2) Those that label themselves as Sunni, and ascribe to AhliSunnah, AhliHadith, Salafiyyah etc.
Which ideology do you follow and why?
What should be followed is the Islamic ideology and (the understanding) of Islam as the Prophet(PBUH) and his companions.
Because the Prophet said so + they are the best generations of Islam and the closest to the revelations + some of them(the companions) guranteed to enter Jannah(heaven). Following this would make you in a very safe and relaxed place(mentally i.e. thoughts & understandings as well as spiritually and faith wise).
Alhamdulilah.
I do not mean to speak for her but based on what she said in the blog/video I got the feeling she just meant Madhabs within the sunni school of thought like Shafi, Hanafi, Maliki, Hanbali. I don't think she was really discussing Sunni or Shia in this video. That is just how I took it.
Wa Alaikum Assalaam. Oh OK that makes sense.
Alhamdulillah you made this video because I’ve been struggling very hard with this topic. However I have a sincere, genuine question...
So how could all 4 schools of thought be correct when each has a little different perspective. For instance, let’s talk about menstration, the maximum duriration of observed menstration according to Hanafi is 10 days, maliki says its 15 days. How do we know which is correct. These are scholars, we don’t have nearly the knowledge they have, so it’s not as simple as “looking deep into the Quran and finding out evidence.” Because these scholars already did that and got these results. So how do we know which is correct and how could all 4 be correct. Is it ok to cherry pick from each Madhab? Someone please help me.
Just a little info about the 4 schools of thought. I am a hanafi and fully respect the other 3 madhhibs.it is not like i want every one to be a hanfi, instead the ulema of all 4 madahhibs suggest the newly reverts to follow the madhab that is widely followed where they live. While some ayats are fairly clear in their meanings, others need explanation(hadith).There are multiple hadith regarding a situation and this is where the madhabs differ. So it is wise to follow a mujtahids ruiling(4 imams) than following a wahabi or ur personal opinion.
*"2So it is wise to follow a mujtahids ruiling(4 imams)"*
Assalamu alaikum
For Allah's sake please say whether the four Imams - Abu Hanifa, Malik, Shafi'i, and Ahmad Ibn Hanbal - were alive during the lifetime of the Prophet. Did they obtain the fundamentals of the faith from the Prophet directly?
Was not the Commander of the Faithful, ‘Ali a constant associate of the Prophet, and was he not declared to be the gate of the City of Knowledge?
Are we not justified, therefore, in holding that to follow ‘Ali is obligatory? The Prophet himself said that obeying ‘Ali was obeying him and that ‘Ali was the gate of the City of Knowledge? The Prophet also said that whoever wanted to gain knowledge should go to ‘Ali's door.
Also, according to the ‘Hadith al-Thaqalain’ and the ‘Hadith al-Safina’, which are recognized by both Sunnis and Shi’as, deviation from the path shown by the descendants of the Prophet will lead to our ruin. Dis-obedience to, or antagonism against, the family of the Prophet, is tantamount to disobedience to the Prophet himself.
In spite of all this, the Shi’as ulama’ have never shown such intolerance towards even the common Sunnis, not to speak of their ulama’. We have always exhorted the Shi’as that the Sunnis are our brothers in Islam, and we that should remain united.
On the other hand, the Sunni ulama’ have often incited their people, saying that Shi’as are innovators, Rafizis, Ghalis, or Jews. They say that, since the Shi’as do not follow one of four Sunni jurists (Abu Hanifa, Malik, Shafi'i, or Ahmad Ibn Hanbal), they are infidels. The fact is that those who follow the Prophet's progeny are rightly guided.
www.al-islam.org/peshawar-nights-sayyid-muhammad-al-musawi-al-shirazi/third-session-saturday-night-25th-rajab-1345-ah#shi%E2%80%99-and-four-sunni-schools-law
Hello there, I'm so glad that you have found Islam and you have a purpose in your life that guides you. As you have verbalised you do not follow any school of thought for following the religion. I would just kindly remind that you do not have to give up your heritage of being a British either. You are Muslim but you are British you can dress as British but modestly. I feel so many reverts come into this religion start changing their accents and manners and behaviours and their dress code and turn into Arab. I'm really happy you have your heart in Islam but you do not need to change you heritage sister your British be proud and practice your faith.
I follow hanafi school of thought.
Alsalamu Alakauim Allah bless and Protect you Ameen sister. Love you 😘
Hello! I completely agree with you. Recently I've been wondering about this issue. One thing I want to ask, where and how do you usually learn about the evidences of rulings/hadith? Bcs I don't know Arabic yet and I am curious as how could I find authentic sources to read more whenever I want to know about a certain rulings.
I agree with you because the Quran has straight forward and allegorical meaning, so we are told. How much and what have those scholars understood in the Quran for people to believe all their teaching to a point of worshipping them or give them identity for us to hate on each other. They're humans after all.
Your hunger for islamic knowledge and sharing what you learn, keeps me here everytime you post. Love you for the sake of Allah
May the One for whose sake you love me, love you sis!
Samantha J Boyle Ameen ya Rabbi
( if following that way, make them happy and full of joy; for me if they don't come at me for my belief. I ask questions to them about their belief, they teach me about their belief and I teach them. If I don't know I go and look it up for them) As a revert and part of the Lgbt. My lgbt friends are happy for me and I love them for them. I am a open mind love learning about different belief system. If they are happy and not hurting anyone. Who cares. If I get marry to a man or woman. I dress more in men clothes and wear the hijab (If I have time to put it on in the morning)
Assalamualaikum, I'd just like to address some things said in this video. I understand that what you're tryna say is that as long as it has evidence from the Quran & Sunnah you'll follow the rulings. However, all of the rulings of the 4 madzhabs had evidences from the Quran & Sunnah. Secondly, you addressed that the madzhabs tend to disunite the ummah. However, the point of the madzhabs is for people to follow a school of thought so as to ease a person in making a decision. Because technically none of the mazdhabs differ in the teachings of the Quran & Sunnah, in fact they are aligned to the teachings. They don't differ in aqidah just in the hukm. Which does not make any of the rulings wrong. But I do agree with you that we shouldn't follow blindly because Allah has mentioned about the people who think in the Quran many times & people who ponders too. Thirdly, I don't think madzhabs disunited us. I think that people aren't mature enough to accept the different rulings. Because technically, why should we as human beings differ just because of school of thoughts. I think it's just the problem of that person/people themselves. For example, I have a thought in this & u have an opinion on this that differs from mine. We can just choose to brush it off because we hold the choice. So the opinion does not differ us. It's just the choices we make. I'm sorry if this sounded harsh or offensive, I hope it didn't come across that way but I thought that I'd express my opinion on this. But I do respect ur views either way because we as Muslims can differ too. May Allah bless you & your family!
- from a sister in islam
oh and it doesn't mean that u follow one school of thought, ur not able to implement the rulings from other school of thoughts. If it that makes sense. I just thought I'd added that.
Much love and respect sis respect ✊🏾
Thank you ❤
I agree, Love you xx
To other reverts: I'm curious during your journey through Islam, when you learned that there was a Shia/Sunni divide, how did you choose which path to follow? How much did you look into each side?
gol265 I chose to follow the Sunni side because when looking at the history of Islam it didn’t make sense that most Shias believe that some of the closest companions to the Prophet SAW were idle worshippers and that they made errors and couldn’t be trusted? I believe this idea is absolutely false and could not agree with it.
bintxwhyte Thanks for your reply sister. I never heard of Shia's believing the companions were idol worshippers (unless you mean before Islam). And how can we say they didn't make mistakes? They weren't infallible, they weren't prophets. How about when Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) asked them for a pen to write his last will and they denied him saying that he was in a delusional state? We cannot say that the holy prophet was ever delusional. How about the day of ghadir when the holy prophet announced that Ali will be the leader after him? And if you deny this, then let's look logically at how each caliph came to power: Abu Bakr was elected in, yet Ummar was appointed by Abu Bakr to be his successor and then Uthman was elected by a committee of six chosen people - so which way is correct? Why for each caliph is there a different way to become caliph? And if Abu Bakr was meant to be caliph why did Umar have to go to Ali and Fatimah's house to try to force him to give allegiance, and why so violently, if as you say, they dont make mistakes?
Moreover, Islam is a perfect religion and Allah completed it for us and it has an answer for everything so why would Allah not appoint a leader to succeed Muhammad (pbuh)?
How can Sunni sources agree and support hadith Ghadir and hadith Kisa while sunnis themselves dont see its importance.
Prophet Muhammad raised imam Ali and no one knew him better or followed him as closely as Imam Ali. I'm not saying Abu Bakr wasn't close to the prophet or that he wasn't knowledgeable, but there is a clear distinction.
I cant type many more points here but Peshawar Nights is a really good book. It's a debate between the Shia and Sunni scholars and it's a red-eye opener.
I'm always chasing after the truth and am open if you have resources to share with me but I strongly urge you to check out that book, there's nothing to loose. Btw they were only allowed to use sources and hadith accepted by both sects.
Finally, we are all muslims at the end of the day, I just wanted to exchange a little with Sunnis directly because there is a lot of false information out there and I think both of our sides don't truly know what the other actually believes. Ask me it you are curious about anything you've heard, I'm sure there is an explanation.
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ac Jazakh'Allah for taking the time to respond to me in a respectful manner &' even providing a video, it honestly means a lot &' it's made me do more research. If only everyone was like you in this Ummah ❤️!
@@amatullah5389 thanks for saying that, inshallah we are with the truth. God bless you and happy Ramadan!
you're right I'm born Muslim I was raised in a muslim country but I never call myself sunni or shia or any of these groups I just pray fast do everything that makes a persona muslim and that it the prophet pbuh has warned us from division and Allah as well in the Quran warned us
Anon Ilyas when you follow the Quran/Sunnah, you’re differentiating from those people by default. You don’t need to call yourself “Sunni” and announce it to everyone to differentiate from it
Asalaamu alaikom, thanks for all your helpful videos.
I am a revert too, I respect and appreciate all people and religious sects etc. In my research though, I came to Shia path and I literally never comment on youtube videos but I love your personality and wisdom, so I wanted to to post, as when you see the shia perspective, your mind is blown. im curious if you researched (true) shia Islam before?
An amazing must-read is Peshawar Nights. Also the whole story of Kerbala! This was the Prophet's grandson! Please read it and if you have any to recommend to me, I am open to investigating.
Assalaamu'laikum, may you be blessed in your strive to find guidance and truth.
The problem with not following a school of thought is that you will be following your own school of thought, if you understand what school of thought means. School of thoughts are methodologies in understanding from taking the sources of the Al Quran, hadiths, etc. The imams make statements not to take from them if there are better sourcrs, out of adab and humbleness, thats the beauty of it :) There is adab in knowledge seeking before seeking knowledge in itself.
Also, there are no sectarian division. among the 4 mazhabs as they all are under the umbrella of the creed of Imam al Asy'ari and Imamal marturidi. Sectarian divisions are divisions in Tauhid, not fiqh.
Firstly, following a school of thought does not in any way mean you're disregarding the Qur'an and sunnah. Most Muslims do not have sufficient knowledge to derive rulings from the Qur'an and Ahaadeeth themselves, and then therefore follow the rulings of a person who is qualified to do so (The four imams) . The four school's of thought are all correct, and they did not differ in the fundamentals of the religion, and it is therefore acceptable to follow as every Imam has exerted himself in deducing rulings, each backed up with undebatable evidence from the Qur'an and Sunnah.
In no way are we worshipping the Imams, as you mention the people of the book did, nor do we believe that they're not capable of mistakes. We're merely relying on more learned people than ourselves to deduce rulings of Shariah, definitely a more cautious approach.
"It is an undeniable reality that we have very little resemblance with the scholars of the first Muslim era. We fall short of their knowledge, understanding, intelligence, memory,
morals and piety. In addition, the scholars of the first era were close to the environment
and time when the Qura'n was revealed which allowed understanding the Qura'n and
Sunnah in its entirety. We, on the contrary, are so distant from the time when the Qura'n
was revealed that we are not disposed to a comprehensive understanding of the Qur'an's
background, to its environment, the social norms of that time and to the language of that
era. The factors listed above are indispensable if anyone is to understand the Qura'n and
Sunnah." (From the book: The legal status of following a Madhab)
If we were to take it upon ourselves to choose which of the rulings to follow, how would we even go about this? How could we deduce authenticity of ahhadeeth? This is for the Ulama to do. Most of us are not jurists and it's definitely not as simple as picking the ruling that makes the most sense to you. This approach would not be correct because in order for us to be able to understand the full merit of the rulings of each Madhab, we would need to have knowledge equal to the knowledge of these Imaams. We will need to have extensive knowledge of the Qur'an, Hadith, the various sciences of Deen and the ability of ijtihaad in order to correctly compare the proofs of one Imaam against the other and thereafter choose which is more correct. Since this level of knowledge is no longer found, it is safest for one to remain committed to one Madhab.
The Imams have different methods of analyses, reasoning and deduction. For example, according to Imam Abu Hanifa, bleeding breaks Wudu, but not according to Imam Shafiee. Touching a woman would invalidate a man's wudu according to Imam Shafiee, but not according to Imam Abu Hanifa.
"A person left freely to adopt the view which suited him best and abandon the
Fatwa which did not meet his "standards" of comfort begs the question upon what basis is
the "non-scholar" to choose between two contrary Fatwas if not ones own nafs (desires).
It is clear that this line of action would result in people using Islamic law as a triviality to
entertain the lower self. No Muslims scholar of any repute has validated this kind of
practice. " (From the same book mentioned above)
This does not create division or 'sects' as Muslims have been following these Imaams for centuries, and most people who follow one school will you that the other three are correct as well. The fundamentals of the religion are the same according to each school, and the teachings of the Imams do not contradict the Qur'an and Sunnah.
Allah (SWT) knows best. May He forgive and guide us all ♥
maa shaa Allaah very good explanation!
Generally as knowledge increases,one will be more inclined. While the lay person does not need to follow a school, the opinions the lay person will take on anything came from the work of a madhhab. Also their imam likely follows one or was trained toward one. The point is they are a means to the goal and not the goal itself.
Excellent. May Allah richly reward you. So clear, concise and in step with Quran and Sunnah
School of thought serve as guidance especially in fiqh.
I was listening to this by Omar Suleiman and pretty much it what you say just in very condensed way :)
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AlhamduLillah nice video sister 😊👌🤗🌹
Very well said Sister.
I am muslim. Prophet [PBUH] was mulim. He was not sunni muslim or hanafi muslim.
so I am muslim as our Muslim prophet.
we can learn and practice all madhab with our own intellect/reasoning.
41:33
And who is better in speech than one who invites to Allah and does righteousness and says, "Indeed, I am of the Muslims."
3:103
And hold firmly to the rope of Allah all together and do not become divided. And remember the favor of Allah upon you - when you were enemies and He brought your hearts together and you became, by His favor, brothers. And you were on the edge of a pit of the Fire, and He saved you from it. Thus does Allah make clear to you His verses that you may be guided.
My opinion is that Islam as a whole should be a personal journey. Pray with your heart and mind. Feel your prayer rather than worrying about saying the correct words. Read the Holy Quran with intentions to understand it, rather than obsessing over recitation and quanity reading! Don't worry about which foot you step into a room with, don't worry about music or dogs. As long as you have a good intention, you make efforts to bring kindness to others, tolerance to differences you will live a better life than worrying about following your school of thought. Islam is YOURS to bear and no one has any guarantees that they will succeed in any way. We can however follow what makes sense and which doesn't create a lot of resistance in the mind as long as you are honest in your thoughts. Don't be a hypocrite, recognize your own insufficiencies and be honest about where you are at. Sincerity is the utmost quality regardless of what you are able to follow or not.
Also, don't listen to me if you disagree, it is only my personal view!
My sister just follow the glorious Quran and Sahih Hadith...That's all...All the respected imams Rahimullah ( of the particular school of thoughts) inspired people (Muslims) to just follow glorious Quran and Sahih Hadith....I am just amazed to see u as revert to have the perfect Islam ,the Islam of Glorious Quran and Sahih Hadith ...Alhamdulillah, Subhan Allah I am so happy u have cracked down the puzzle of madhav...
@Aftermath No body denies the the works of all great giants ( Imams, Or Scholars may Allah have mercy upon them all )...They themselves said Follow glorious and Sahih hadith if their any Fatwa hit against glorious and sahih hadith reject them and follow the same...Because human beings r fallible...I would like to request u to have a sincere research on this subject or madhav concept...in sha Allah u will come to know the ultimate truth...jajakallahu khairan
What school of Sunni aqeedah (theology) do you and your family follow?
salafi
May Allah preserve you sister. You explained it very vividly. This I always thought and followed as much as I could. May Allah bless you and increase you in knowledge.
I completly agree with you sis❤❤
I’m so glad!!!
great video :) you made some good points. You amaze me how fast you can talk lol ;)
I don’t either and don’t think I ever will
Just one point these 4 school of thoughts are just on on fundamentals but on secondary issues.
I’m a muslim my whole life. And i totally agree with you. Eventually we must go back and stick to Quran and Sunnah
Girl let me tell you something :I was born Muslim to a Somali household. Both my dad and mom never taught me about school of thoughts but to focus on the Quran and the Sunna that’s it .
In our native Bangladesh... It is called "asole Hadis..
They who doesn't follow any school of thought..Is called "Ahole Hadith"..And It is also allowed..And also well-known in Islam.
My lovely sister
The 4 imams have so beautiful broken down the deen for us
I understand where u r coming from
But i respectfully disagree
Nobody worships the 4 schools of thought
Yes alot of muslims hav a weakness of focusing on our differences and not what we all have in common
May Allah give us all understanding Amin
May We all enter the same jannah bc thats wher all headed in sha allah
Amin amin♡
Mrs Muslimah but they do divide themselves by labeling tags such as maliki,shafi’i, hanbali, jaffari, hanafi why do we need these tags when we’ve already been labeled as muslims?
You left me thinking. In one side I completely agree with you. And I understand it. Especially the thing with not following an school of thought. On the other hand you said you would see what qurna and sunnah said. But sometimes one has two hadiths who a are similair but still diffrent and result to an another fatwa. for example you can read our beloved proohet said one should not make sculpture nor draw things who have eyes (souls?) something like that but another hadiths says that our beloved prophet played with aesha raw. with her dolls. so who do I make my own fatwa? because I don't know what are the rules for decinding which hadeeths is now more value or not. and all this rulings.
What’s really refreshing , is knowing Revert’s are following Islam more like initial Muslims than now:
- there were no divisions
- the endless seeking of knowledge - unlike Muslims born into Islam - we take it to advantage tooo much.
- following the shariah.
I think it’s the realisation of being lost than finding Allah.
Tabarka’Allah
I’ve heard if you are not under a school of thought and following sharia then you are kufar.. I’m not sure. I’m also American convert. I’m just now learning about sharia I’ve only been Muslim since september. Can anyone help me how can I study the 4 schools determine which I believe and if not following one is kufar.
Those 4 imam are al hafeez. They have deep knowlege in fiqh. Just follow your regional scholar school of thought. They only disagreement in minor detail but all are ahlul sunnah wal jamaah. People of quran and hadit.
Al hafeez = memorize quran and atleast 300k hadith
Assalamu alaikum
You apparently haven't read your ulama’s books. The four sunni imams have declared each other to be infidels (Kuffar)
It is, however, astonishing that, knowing that the progeny of the Prophet are superior to all others, the Sunnis follow Abu'l-Hasan Ash'ari in the fundamentals of Islam and the four Imams in the articles of practice of the faith.
To follow such a course is due to fanaticism and arrogance. And even if we suppose what you say is true, that your four Imams are worthy of your allegiance because they were learned and pious, then why has each of them accused the other of infidelity (Kufr)?
You apparently haven't read your ulama’s books. Your own distinguished ulama’ have written books concerning their rejection. Even the four Imams have charged one another with violating divine laws.
The companions of Abu Hanifa, Ibn Hajar (‘Ali Ibn Ahmad Andalusi, who died in 456 A.H.), and others have always censured Imam Malik and Muhammad Ibn Idris Shafi'i. Similarly, the companions of Imam Shafi'i, like Imamu'l- Haramain, Imam Ghazali and others have condemned Abu Hanifa and Malik. Let me ask you something: what sort of people were Imam Shafi'i, Abu Hamid Muhammad Ibn Muhammad Ghazali, and Jarullah Zamakhshari?
Imam Shafi'i said: "There never was born a more damned person in Islam than Abu Hanifa." He also said: "I looked into the books of the companions of Abu Hanifa, and I found in them 130 pages containing matter in opposition to the Holy Qur'an and the Sunna."
Abu Hamid Ghazali in his book ‘Manqul fi Ilmi'l-Usul’ says: "In fact Abu Hanifa distorted the religious code, made its way doubtful, changed its arrangement, and intermingled the laws in such a way that the code prescribed by the Holy Prophet was totally disfigured. One who does so deliberately and considers it lawful is an infidel. One who does it knowing it to be unlawful is a sinner." According to this great scholar, Abu Hanifa was either an infidel or a sinner.
Many other books condemn Abu Hanifa. Jarullah Zamakhshari, the author of ‘Tafsir al-Kashshaf’ and one of your pious ulama’, writes in Rabiu'l-Abrar that Yusuf Ibn Asbat said: "Abu Hanifa rejected at least 400 hadith of the Prophet of Islam." Yusuf remarked that "Abu Hanifa said: 'Had the Prophet of Islam known me, he would have accepted many of my sayings.'"
Your own ulama’ have made similar criticisms of Abu Hanifa and the other three Imams. They can be found in Ghazali's ‘Mutahawwal’, Shafi'i's ‘Nuqtu'sh-Sharifa’, Zamakhshari's Rabiu'l-Abrar, and Ibn Jauzi's Muntazim. Imam Ghazali says in his Mutahawwal, "There are many mistakes in Abu Hanifa's work. He had no knowledge of etymology, grammar, or hadith." He also writes, "Since he had no knowledge of hadith, he relied on his own conjecture. The first being who acted on conjecture was Satan."
Ibn Jauzi writes in his Muntazim, "All the ulama’ are united in condemning Abu Hanifa. There are three categories of such critics: one group holds that his faith in the fundamentals of Islam was uncertain; another says that he lacked a strong memory and could not remember hadith; a third believes that he acted on conjecture and that his opinion was always at variance with the true hadith."
Your own ulama’ have criticized your Imams. The Shi’as ulama’ have not attributed anything to them except what your own ulama’ have said about them. On the other hand, there is no difference of opinion among the Shi’as ulama’ concerning the position of the twelve Imams.
We regard the Holy imams as the pupils of the same teaching. These Imams - all of them - acted according to divine laws which the last of the Prophets gave them. They never acted on conjecture or approved of innovations. What they said or did agreed with the sayings of the Prophet. Hence, there was no difference among them.
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@@godisjust591 shiah source ? Nahh thanks 🙂
@@renwoxing7788 No sunni source!
A sunni who became shia says in his book: I was astonished when I found him talking about the refusal of some of the Companions to comply with the orders of the Prophet(saw), and he gave many examples, including the incident of "Raziyat Yawm al-Khamis (The Calamity of Thursday)", for I could not imagine that our master Umar ibn al-Khattab had disagreed with the orders of the Messenger of Allah (saw) and accused him of Hajjr (talking irrationally), and I thought at the beginning that it was just a story from the Shi’a books.
However, I was even more astonished when I noticed that the Shi’i scholar made his reference to the incident in the "Sahih of al-Bukhari" and the "Sahih of Muslim".
I travelled to the Capital, and from there I bought the "Sahih of al-Bukhari", the "Sahih of Muslim", and the "Mosnad of Imam Ahmed", the "Sahih of al-Tirmidhi", the "Muwatta of Imam Malik" and other famous books. I could not wait to get back to the house and read these books, so throughout the journey between Tunis and Gafsah I sat in the bus looking through the pages of al-Bukhari's book searching for the incident of "The great misfortune of Thursday" and hoping that I would never find it.
Nevertheless, I found it and read it many times; and there it was, exactly as it has been cited by al-Sayyid Sharaf al-Din.
I tried to deny the incident in its entirety, and could not believe that our master Umar had played such a dangerous role; but how could I deny it since it was mentioned in our Sihahs; the Sihahs of al-Sunnah, in whose contents we are obliged to believe, so if we doubt them or deny some of them, it means that we abandon all our beliefs.
If the Shi’a scholar had referred to their books, I would not have believed what he said, but he was referring to the Sihahs of al-Sunnah, which could not be challenged, because we are committed to believe that they are the most authentic books after the Book of Allah. Therefore, the issue is a compelling one, because if we doubt these Sihahs we are left with hardly any of the rules and regulations of Islam to rely on.
This is because the rules and regulations which are mentioned in the Book of Allah take the form of general concepts rather than details. We are far from the time of the Message, and have thus inherited the rules of our religion through our fathers and grandfathers with the help of these Sihahs, which cannot be ignored.
As I was about to embark on long and difficult research, I promised myself to depend only on the correct Hadiths that are agreed by both the Shi’a and the Sunnah, and that I would drop all the sayings which are mentioned exclusively by one group or the other. Only through this just method could I keep myself safe from emotional factors, sectarian fanaticism and national tendencies. In the meantime I would be able to pass through the road of doubt and reach the mountain of certainty, and that is the correct path of Allah.
For further research - click >>> www.al-islam.org/then-i-was-guided-muhammad-al-tijani-al-samawi/beginning-research
@@renwoxing7788 Disregard the allegations circulated by scandal mongers and fanatics. If we wish to discuss the Shi`as without fanaticism or affectation, we would say that they are the adherents of the Islamic School of Thought which respects and follows the twelve Imams from the family (Ahlul Bayt) of the Prophet. They are Ali and eleven of his offspring.
The age of fanaticism and hereditary enmity has gone by, and the age of enlightenment and intellectual freedom has dawned; therefore, the educated youths have to open their eyes and read the literature published by the Shi`as. They ought to contact them and talk to their scholars in order to know the truth first-hand, for how often have we been deceived by honey sweet talk and by calumnies which do not withstand any proof or argument?
The world nowadays is accessible to everyone, and Shi`as are present in all parts of the world. It is not fair that a researchers studying the Shi`as should ask their enemies and opponents, those who hold different religious views from the Shi`as, about them. And what does an inquirer expect other than being told by such opponents what has always been said since the beginning of the Islamic history?
The Shi`as refer to the Prophet and the Twelve Imams regarding all fiqh (jurisprudence) issues and public dealings. They do not prefer anyone over the Twelve Imams with the exception of their grandfather, the bearer of the Message, Muhammad, the Messenger of Allah. This is briefly the true definition of the Shi`as. Disregard the allegations circulated by scandal mongers and fanatics who claim that the Shi`as are the enemies of Islam, that they believe in the “prophethood” of Ali, and that he is the one who bears the prophetic Message, or that they belong to Abdullah ibn Saba, the Jew, and that they are this and that...
I have read many books and articles written by those who try very hard to “prove” that the Shi`as are kafirs (apostates), trying to excommunicate them from the Islamic creed altogether. Yet their statements are no more than sheer calumnies and obvious lies which they cannot prove or document except by quoting what their predecessors among the enemies of Ahlul Bayt have said, in addition to the statements of the Nasibis who forced their authority on the Islamic world and ruled it by force and intimidation, pursuing the Prophet's progeny as well as those who follow them, killing and expelling them, calling them by all bad names.
Among such bad names, which are often repeated in books written by the enemies of the Shi`as, is the misnomer “Rafidis,” rejectionists. Any uninformed reader will instantly consider the possibility that they are the ones who rejected the Islamic principles and who did not act upon them, or that they rejected the Message of Prophet Muhammad. But the truth of the matter is quite different.
They were called “Rafidis” simply because early Umayyad and Abbaside rulers, as well as evil scholars who always tried to please them, wanted to misrepresent them by attaching such a misnomer to them. Early Shi`as preferred to remain loyal to Ali, rejecting the caliphate of Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman, and they rejected the caliphate of all other Umayyad and Abbaside rulers.
Such folks may have misled the Islamic Ummah through the help of a number of fabricators from the sahaba (companions of the Holy Prophet), claiming that their caliphate was legitimate because it was mandated by Allah, Praise be to Him. Thus did they promote the allegation that the verse saying:
“O you who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger and those charged with authority among you” (Holy Qur'an, 4:59) was revealed in their regard, especially since they were the ones charged with the authority of government and obedience to them, hence, was the obligation of all Muslims. They hired those who attributed to the Messenger of Allah the following tradition: “None abandons the authority of the ruler even in as little as an inch then dies except that he dies the death of jahiliyya (pre-Islamic period of ignorance).”
We thus come to realize that the Shi`as were oppressed by the rulers because they refused to pay allegiance to them and rejected their authority, regarding it as the usurpation of the right which belonged to Ahlul Bayt. Hence, rulers across many centuries duped their commoners into believing that the Shi`as rejected Islam and desired no less than its annihilation and demise, as stated by some past and present writers and historians who claim to be men of knowledge.
If we return to the game of making wrong look right, we will realize that there is a difference between those who wished to annihilate Islam and those who tried to put an end to the oppressive and corrupt governments whose norm of conduct is anti-Islamic. Shi`as never abandoned Islam; rather, they opposed unjust rulers, and their objective has always been the returning of the trust to its rightful people and thus erect the foundations of the type of Islam that rules with justice and equity.
Anyway, the conclusion we reached in our past researches, as outlined in Then I was Guided, With the Truthful, and Ask Those Who Know, is that Shi`as are the ones who will attain salvation because they are the ones who have always upheld the Two Weighty Things: the Book of Allah, and the Progeny of His Messenger.
For the sake of fairness, some scholars from those referred to as “Ahlul Sunnah wal Jama`ah” (followers of the Sunnah and consensus) admit this same fact. For example, Ibn Manzur says the following in his lexicon Lisan al-Arab where he defines the Shi`as: The Shi`as are the people who love what the Prophet's Progeny loves, and they are loyal to such Progeny.1
Commenting on this statement, Dr. Sa`id Abd al-Fattah `Ashoor says, “If the Shi`as love whatever the Prophet's Progeny loves and are loyal to such Progeny, who among the Muslims would refuse to be a Shi`a?!”
Shi`as are not a secretive cult that does not reveal its beliefs except to its members; rather, their books and beliefs are published throughout the world, their schools and religious circles are open to all seekers of knowledge, their scholars hold public discussions, lectures, debates, and conferences, and they call for common grounds and try to unite the Islamic Ummah.
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