Gogeta is mix of the best traits of Goku and Vegeta, he already has ultra instinct and ultra ego in a way just without the forms. Even the way he moves in broly is much more elegant then Goku and Vegeta, he also uses is power is a much more stable way
it would be a cool idea if fusion summoned an ancient being who already existed in old times, and for goku and vegeta we know its gogeta, but like i said it would be cool if gogeta was an ancient saiyan who had already existed and can only be summoned by two powerful saiyans
the key to true martial arts is: NOT to kill, because if you end up having to kill it means you are weak so the key is to be overwhelmingly powerful to where you Never have too kill this is pure intent
Nice vid:) and yea you nailed it with the reasoning for Gogeta`s Kamehameha against Broly. Goku fights to improve himself not necessarily to "win" but in my opinion fighting to better one self and fighting to win is essentially the same because you improve yourself the most if you win the fight. Its just that the complexion for the underlying reason differs as to why you go for the win. You don`t stop a bench rep halfway through content with the strength you gained "i`ve improved enough for today" , you go until you hit the limit. Same in a fight.
Great video! I still need to read journey to the west. Goku is mostly right brained and vegeta is definitely left brained. Yin/yang. The combination of both is either is the ultimate fighter.
I've always felt the eastern martial arts philosophy as a bit of bullshit as a practical method. And as they said after learning from Bardock, their drive is the sheer desire to win.
I’m not sure if there’s too much to expand on with this but, do you ever plan on making a video on Vegetto in the boo saga? How it was Goku and Vegeta coming together from heaven and hell. I thought that whole concept was really interesting.
No one gives a damn about my opinion but Gogeta is one of the top chads in fiction history. Top 3 favorite dragon ball characters for me: Kid Goku from OG Dragonball, Perfect Cell, and a tie between Gogeta &/or = to Captain Ginyu. Probably Ginyu moreso than anything. I felt like that character embodies the comedy Toriyama liked to portray in his works while being deadass serious in his prime (Namek) Good Video. 💯✌️
Maybe do a video on Vegetto to explain why the reason he have 0 W is because he often let his ego (Vegeta side )get the better of him ( Vs Buuhan, Vs Zamasu especialy the manga version )
To be fair, every showing of Vegito he is basically I the same situation of SS4 Gogeta: He had a legitimate motive for not ending the fight just yet. You could argue that against Zamasu he was toying around for no reason and just unaware of time limit but if I remember correctly in the manga they gave a better explanation for it outside of the limit.
@@hoothoot2112 Multiple sources contradict that V-Jump article. The Daizenshuu (primary source, takes precedence over V-Jump) states that Potara warriors are stronger than their fusion counterparts. Other V-Jump articles and the Manga state that Vegito is stronger than or comparable to Beerus, and there are other guides saying that in terms of raw power Berserk Broly was stronger than Gogeta (equal in SSJ), but unable to match his skill. Granolah later wishes to be stronger than any mortal, but is stated to be weaker than Beerus, meaning that - in teh manga - Vegito >= Beerus > Granolah > Berserk Broly > Gogeta = SSJ Broly The Broly/Gogeta scan was actually really surprising to me since it wasnt portrayed as such in the movie but I dont make the rules.
Look, the fans who think Gogeta was killing Broly are literally the same as Cheelai: incapable of truly feeling the power in front of them, and assuming that Broly is about to get killed. Hell, from her perspective these two popped out of the entire fuckin reality, how would she really know what Gogeta was planning?
@@kamikazehound3243 Ain't denyin that, Broly was for sure getting slept. I'm just saying on top of being a Legendary Saiyan, Gogeta spared Freeza right after this. Would be pretty weird to have attempted to kill the almost pure Saiyan while leaving the mostly evil Frost Demon alive, no matter the situation
@@Spankledrop Yea aite. Like he didn’t come back as Vegeta foretold to kick their ass again. He was sparing Broly regardless, you can knock someone out of a Super Saiyan form without killing them.
Online i know for a fact people hate silly dumb goku ..they make it apparent as ah go to argument as for why his characterization is flawed now..... when in actual ality he's never changed as a person even as an adult one bit chi chi even comments on his behavior for dat fact alone saying as much once... like hello tori was a gag mangaka first so of course goku will always be carefree/blunt and says what's on his mind all the time..although in specific situations maybe he probably shouldn't lol classic comic relief ya know
People also have ta remember Tori created Goku in the 80's in Japan...so comic relief characters were definitely popular then at the time..all Tori did was combine his sense of humor/martial arts battle manga along with his iconic art style an there you go ya got the dragon ball IP today as we all know it
Look yeah Goku isn't exactly book smart like Gohan but what he's extremely good at is being an amazing fighting genius all thanks to every master he's learned from over the years plus he can drive (which I don't know how the fuck he learned that let alone mastered it too this day bro lol)
Yes Goku can be funny or not acting serious or dumb sometimes which okay fine I admit it... but honestly I don't think that determines the battles he fights mostly..so anyways basically Goku is just expressing normal emotions really any fictional characters would it's not exclusive to just him sooo there for don't really see the point hating on the guy for that alone
no😈. Aldough i love both there is a diffrence between thoose two. They are the same streinghts but there is one important aspect for every fighter and thats the fighting style. Vegito is heavy fighter and not very tactical. That could be good but that could be bad. For example fused zamasu is VERY agressive, and so is vegito. Vegito is so strong that hes compared to beerus. While gogeta is more of an elegant and tactical style. He probably could beat the same opponents as vegito but he would mybe have a lot of trouble. Another example is that broly was HELLA agressive, and gogeta is hella precise so he could counter broly EASLY.
@@Slider450 I would says Vegeto is Tactical since he's stated to be the Perfect Fighter, and trick Buuhan into absorbing him. Hence, despite that even Fat Buu was stated to be a genius fighter and having absorb Gohan, Goten, Trunks and Piccolo(which include their memories, skills and experience) Vegeto was basically teaching Buuhan how to fight, and is also stated to be the only one able to use the barrier of androids(who need infinite energy for it) because he has the greatest mastery of Ki in the universe
@@Equilibrium859 I kinda got to agree but not as much as gogeta. As i said gogeta is special, he learns FROM opponents and by aknowleging that he could counter them (like mahoraga from jjk lool). For example, in the broly movie (i forgor the name) he learnt that broly is agressive and broly landed only ONE punch in the entire fight, every other time gogeta would either counter him or dodge him. I do think that vegito is also tactical but hes also more agressive and comfident wich could get him the lost (but i dont think he has ever lost lol)
Ok. Like the video. But hear me out…….. The martial arts stuff is primarily from dragon ball. Not Z. In Z it turns more into sci-fi. Did Vegeta ( or any of the saiyans for that matter) actually practice martial arts at all? They were all focused on like power levels. Did Vegeta ever practice martial arts before he met goku?? And all this is to say, I don’t really think Gogeta practices martial arts. Now he fights using martial arts if you mean practice in that way. But I’m pretty sure there’s never a time where goku and Vegeta fuse into gogeta and he just starts practicing on his martial arts skills. Like that’s not a thing at all. I don’t even think Vegeta technically practices martial arts at all until he starts meditation most recently. He trains all the time but it’s to improve his power levels not his martial arts techniques. Even when he does begin focusing on technique is sci fi alien techniques he learns not any type of martial arts. I’m just saying while outside of the story we all as fans see how martial arts is incorporated at all times in db but technically in story the only ones that officially and specifically use and practice martial arts are the characters from OG DB like Goku Piccolo Tien, master Roshi etc….
@@bluesman402 yes, beyond the 4th wall everything is connected to martial arts. I’m specifically speaking in story. Thanks for being so smug tho. Almost forgot how lame internet fans are
Vegito is overrated its Vegito glazers some kid went up to me i was playing dragon ball legends he saw me using gogeta blue and he was complaining that Vegito is better but i said that gogeta actually wins his fights and he got his brother and they both started to yell at me so they got kicked out the store
@@7reasons617 I mean it depends really. Mori jin and the goku part of gogeta are based on the SAME thing. That being son wu kong. But unlike goku, mori jin is more like son wu kong then goku is. Which means mori jin could be immortal unlike goku. Since son wu kong is immortal several times over.
Vegito has never won a fight and the downside of their fusion is how cocky they are and if hey use too much power it will defuse early vegito has no interesting moves other than final trash+kamehameha and a sword out of ki he sold so bad during the buu saga if he hadn’t just put his ego aside he would have beat buu but instead he felt too superior only using his legs which led to him running out of power due to over usage inevitable losing to buu unlike gogeta he never ran out of power has interesting moves and always wins. Also the fusion dance is way more convenient as for the Potara earrings you need the earrings from one of the Kai’s who’s world goku is unable to use instant transmission to
SSJ4 Gogeta is probably the most perfect representation of "If Wukong was in Dragonball"--even down to the Metamoran outfit.
Gogeta is mix of the best traits of Goku and Vegeta, he already has ultra instinct and ultra ego in a way just without the forms.
Even the way he moves in broly is much more elegant then Goku and Vegeta, he also uses is power is a much more stable way
Anyone who hasn't read the OG dragon ball is missing so much context
DB is the real think
it would be a cool idea if fusion summoned an ancient being who already existed in old times, and for goku and vegeta we know its gogeta, but like i said it would be cool if gogeta was an ancient saiyan who had already existed and can only be summoned by two powerful saiyans
Save for the fact that fusion has already been established as creating a new person entirely, and it’s not even a Saiyan technique.
@@renardbennett75 yeah i know that already, i was just saying it would be something cool
@@adamfighter358 True
the key to true martial arts is: NOT to kill, because if you end up having to kill it means you are weak so the key is to be overwhelmingly powerful to where you Never have too kill this is pure intent
He was going to pack up broly, forever.
@@OsDijider66 true but i like to think gogeta was aware of the wish seeing as he was happy broly didnt get washed by that kamehameha
As a martial artist myself, Dragon ball is my martial arts bible
Nice vid:) and yea you nailed it with the reasoning for Gogeta`s Kamehameha against Broly.
Goku fights to improve himself not necessarily to "win" but in my opinion fighting to better one self and fighting to win is essentially the same because you improve yourself the most if you win the fight. Its just that the complexion for the underlying reason differs as to why you go for the win. You don`t stop a bench rep halfway through content with the strength you gained "i`ve improved enough for today" , you go until you hit the limit. Same in a fight.
8:13 I always just interpreted Gogeta going for the kill because Broly was completely out of control and endangering the earth
Same but the other point he said in the vid also make sense to me now
Great video! I still need to read journey to the west. Goku is mostly right brained and vegeta is definitely left brained. Yin/yang. The combination of both is either is the ultimate fighter.
Very interesting video I absolutely loved the extra insight to Gogeta 💙
i love your channel!
Thank you for sharing your insights
I've always felt the eastern martial arts philosophy as a bit of bullshit as a practical method.
And as they said after learning from Bardock, their drive is the sheer desire to win.
I really enjoy this video. Want more of this
I’m not sure if there’s too much to expand on with this but, do you ever plan on making a video on Vegetto in the boo saga? How it was Goku and Vegeta coming together from heaven and hell. I thought that whole concept was really interesting.
I love your videos bro what a legend you are keep up the good work brother.
Always love the vids keep it up!
No one gives a damn about my opinion but Gogeta is one of the top chads in fiction history. Top 3 favorite dragon ball characters for me: Kid Goku from OG Dragonball, Perfect Cell, and a tie between Gogeta &/or = to Captain Ginyu. Probably Ginyu moreso than anything. I felt like that character embodies the comedy Toriyama liked to portray in his works while being deadass serious in his prime (Namek)
Good Video. 💯✌️
Great video!
Really cool video.
Perfect timing🔥
Maybe do a video on Vegetto to explain why the reason he have 0 W is because he often let his ego (Vegeta side )get the better of him ( Vs Buuhan, Vs Zamasu especialy the manga version )
To be fair, every showing of Vegito he is basically I the same situation of SS4 Gogeta: He had a legitimate motive for not ending the fight just yet.
You could argue that against Zamasu he was toying around for no reason and just unaware of time limit but if I remember correctly in the manga they gave a better explanation for it outside of the limit.
@@kamikazehound3243 zamasu was immortal
EH-HMMMM!!! I think you mean, GOAT-geta
Do what is right. Not what your told.
I'd be really interested in hearing your takes on One Piece which is also journey to the west inspired.
Would you consider Vegito a god of martial arts?
The series refers to him as such. He and Gogeta are effectively the same character but Vegito is stronger due to potara being superior to fusion.
@@OverlyEpux Gogeta and Vegito have already been confirmed as being equals
@@hoothoot2112 Multiple sources contradict that V-Jump article.
The Daizenshuu (primary source, takes precedence over V-Jump) states that Potara warriors are stronger than their fusion counterparts.
Other V-Jump articles and the Manga state that Vegito is stronger than or comparable to Beerus, and there are other guides saying that in terms of raw power Berserk Broly was stronger than Gogeta (equal in SSJ), but unable to match his skill. Granolah later wishes to be stronger than any mortal, but is stated to be weaker than Beerus, meaning that - in teh manga - Vegito >= Beerus > Granolah > Berserk Broly > Gogeta = SSJ Broly
The Broly/Gogeta scan was actually really surprising to me since it wasnt portrayed as such in the movie but I dont make the rules.
Wasn't asking in a powerscaling sense. I was referring to it in the same aspect jordan did in the video
@@yashaoftheflames8475 their personalities are identical. They are the same person, so it should apply
Good video.
10:00 need that vid asap
Have you seen the recent sparking 0 trailer lol
Look, the fans who think Gogeta was killing Broly are literally the same as Cheelai: incapable of truly feeling the power in front of them, and assuming that Broly is about to get killed. Hell, from her perspective these two popped out of the entire fuckin reality, how would she really know what Gogeta was planning?
Gogeta was gonna put him in a comma for sure😂😂
@@kamikazehound3243 Ain't denyin that, Broly was for sure getting slept. I'm just saying on top of being a Legendary Saiyan, Gogeta spared Freeza right after this. Would be pretty weird to have attempted to kill the almost pure Saiyan while leaving the mostly evil Frost Demon alive, no matter the situation
@@_WiZ420 Because Broly was a force of nature that kept getting stronger, Frieza atp was easily handled
@@Spankledrop Yea aite. Like he didn’t come back as Vegeta foretold to kick their ass again. He was sparing Broly regardless, you can knock someone out of a Super Saiyan form without killing them.
@@_WiZ420 bro you're just being pretentious it's very heavily implied that Kamehameha was going to evaporate him
Master rochi: am I a joke to you?
Banger vid
And a video for Vegito?
So what's Vegito then?
nice video, but I have a question, does it also apply to Vegetto ?
Online i know for a fact people hate silly dumb goku ..they make it apparent as ah go to argument as for why his characterization is flawed now..... when in actual ality he's never changed as a person even as an adult one bit chi chi even comments on his behavior for dat fact alone saying as much once... like hello tori was a gag mangaka first so of course goku will always be carefree/blunt and says what's on his mind all the time..although in specific situations maybe he probably shouldn't lol classic comic relief ya know
People also have ta remember Tori created Goku in the 80's in Japan...so comic relief characters were definitely popular then at the time..all Tori did was combine his sense of humor/martial arts battle manga along with his iconic art style an there you go ya got the dragon ball IP today as we all know it
Look yeah Goku isn't exactly book smart like Gohan but what he's extremely good at is being an amazing fighting genius all thanks to every master he's learned from over the years plus he can drive (which I don't know how the fuck he learned that let alone mastered it too this day bro lol)
Yes Goku can be funny or not acting serious or dumb sometimes which okay fine I admit it... but honestly I don't think that determines the battles he fights mostly..so anyways basically Goku is just expressing normal emotions really any fictional characters would it's not exclusive to just him sooo there for don't really see the point hating on the guy for that alone
whis said vegito is the superior fusion
When
W video
ssj4 video??
thats what im sayin!
ON GOD
PLEASEEE
Sorry but we dont support cringe around here
His evolution of saiyan race video is closest we got to that
Is Gohan based on Sun Luzhen?
I wonder if they’ll ever meet a villain that turns out to be a fusion at the end💀🤣idk if black counts🤔
Yeah but candy ball vegito solos your fav verse 🗣️🗣️🗣️
Veku negs
Yoshaaaaaa
Vegeto ego>>> Gogeta ego
Nice, is it the same for Vegeto ?
no😈. Aldough i love both there is a diffrence between thoose two. They are the same streinghts but there is one important aspect for every fighter and thats the fighting style. Vegito is heavy fighter and not very tactical. That could be good but that could be bad. For example fused zamasu is VERY agressive, and so is vegito. Vegito is so strong that hes compared to beerus. While gogeta is more of an elegant and tactical style. He probably could beat the same opponents as vegito but he would mybe have a lot of trouble. Another example is that broly was HELLA agressive, and gogeta is hella precise so he could counter broly EASLY.
@@Slider450
I would says Vegeto is Tactical since he's stated to be the Perfect Fighter, and trick Buuhan into absorbing him. Hence, despite that even Fat Buu was stated to be a genius fighter and having absorb Gohan, Goten, Trunks and Piccolo(which include their memories, skills and experience) Vegeto was basically teaching Buuhan how to fight, and is also stated to be the only one able to use the barrier of androids(who need infinite energy for it) because he has the greatest mastery of Ki in the universe
@@Equilibrium859 I kinda got to agree but not as much as gogeta. As i said gogeta is special, he learns FROM opponents and by aknowleging that he could counter them (like mahoraga from jjk lool). For example, in the broly movie (i forgor the name) he learnt that broly is agressive and broly landed only ONE punch in the entire fight, every other time gogeta would either counter him or dodge him. I do think that vegito is also tactical but hes also more agressive and comfident wich could get him the lost (but i dont think he has ever lost lol)
@@Slider450
Vegeto learn from opponents too, because Goku and Vegeta do that
@@Slider450 half of what ur saying is just pure head cannon wtf
First
Cap, it's Korin.
Ok. Like the video. But hear me out……..
The martial arts stuff is primarily from dragon ball. Not Z. In Z it turns more into sci-fi. Did Vegeta ( or any of the saiyans for that matter) actually practice martial arts at all? They were all focused on like power levels. Did Vegeta ever practice martial arts before he met goku?? And all this is to say, I don’t really think Gogeta practices martial arts. Now he fights using martial arts if you mean practice in that way. But I’m pretty sure there’s never a time where goku and Vegeta fuse into gogeta and he just starts practicing on his martial arts skills. Like that’s not a thing at all.
I don’t even think Vegeta technically practices martial arts at all until he starts meditation most recently. He trains all the time but it’s to improve his power levels not his martial arts techniques. Even when he does begin focusing on technique is sci fi alien techniques he learns not any type of martial arts.
I’m just saying while outside of the story we all as fans see how martial arts is incorporated at all times in db but technically in story the only ones that officially and specifically use and practice martial arts are the characters from OG DB like Goku Piccolo Tien, master Roshi etc….
the entire show is an allegory for martial arts. chi is a martial arts based concept, it's not just wearing a gi and using pretty moves.
@@bluesman402 yes, beyond the 4th wall everything is connected to martial arts. I’m specifically speaking in story. Thanks for being so smug tho. Almost forgot how lame internet fans are
@@jessiejoy1703 I actually wasn’t trying to be smug. My apologies. The internet is tone deaf.
@@bluesman402 if it makes u feel better, I didn't sense any smugness from your comment.
@@jessiejoy1703 he wasnt smug, he just stated the truth in a normal tone
Vegito is overrated its Vegito glazers some kid went up to me i was playing dragon ball legends he saw me using gogeta blue and he was complaining that Vegito is better but i said that gogeta actually wins his fights and he got his brother and they both started to yell at me so they got kicked out the store
Cope
Why
they both cool
I can't really call gogeta THE god of martial arts was characters like mori jin from God of highschool exist.
Gogeta washes Jin
@@7reasons617 I mean it depends really.
Mori jin and the goku part of gogeta are based on the SAME thing.
That being son wu kong.
But unlike goku, mori jin is more like son wu kong then goku is.
Which means mori jin could be immortal unlike goku.
Since son wu kong is immortal several times over.
@@chasetanner4822 The problem is that db scales way higher than God of highschool. Other than that Equal stats I agree witchu. Jin is a bad mf.
@@7reasons617
Let's both agree that if either fought the REAL son wu kong, they both would be screwed.
@chasetanner4822 Yeah, but that'll be like putting a kid against a nuclear bomb
This’ll piss off vegito fans 😂. Personally, I prefer gogeta over vegito. But I think both are great and cool characters
How exactly?
Nah vegitos lowkey trash fr
@@cornell9355cope lil man
@@gregkareem9824 I didn’t mean to hurt your feelings I apologize.
Vegito is way better😂 trashgeta spams alot of ki blasts
Vegito has never won a fight and the downside of their fusion is how cocky they are and if hey use too much power it will defuse early vegito has no interesting moves other than final trash+kamehameha and a sword out of ki he sold so bad during the buu saga if he hadn’t just put his ego aside he would have beat buu but instead he felt too superior only using his legs which led to him running out of power due to over usage inevitable losing to buu unlike gogeta he never ran out of power has interesting moves and always wins. Also the fusion dance is way more convenient as for the Potara earrings you need the earrings from one of the Kai’s who’s world goku is unable to use instant transmission to
Weakling HOW ABOUT ULTRA VEGITOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Dragonball lost the concept of martial arts once the sayian saga arrived.
LMAO
Your intro is too long
Vegito better
vegito better
Vegito better