I would definitely think that Batman would realistically studied Boxing under Alfred because giving that he was a Ex-British Marine/SAS Soldier, Wrestling in High School, travel to Japan to study Kyokushin Karate, Kodokan Judo, Jiu-Jitsu, Aikido, and Ninjutsu. By the time he was Batman he would become invested In Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and have one of the Gracie family members privately teach him.
@@hmt-0764 i love wrestling, it’s amazing, one of the best martial arts in the world a wretler in a street fight is so dangerous. But in my opinion sambo is more effective because is like a great combination of wrestling, judo, boxing and Muay thai.
Someone who was a master of multiple martial arts was William Fairbairn who invented SWAT and many modern policing methods. He did boxing, American style wrestling, savate, judo,jujutsu, and kung fu. He learnt kung fu from the emperor of China's personal bodyguards who were each a master of a different styles of kung fu. Fairburn is someone I think Batman would seek him out.
After learning the basics of hand to hand combat from Pennyworth and dirty boxing and wrestling., Bruce would probably learn Bartitsu, which is a real martial arts that housed various martial artist but became to expensive to teach. From this Bruce would learn of others masters and be able to search them out. Only the combat tested masters though, which will place him in contact with the "League of Assassins" .
Batman CLEARLY did not learn Aikido, which is way too easy on opponents and lacks aggression. He learned Akijutsu, which involves LOTS of arm and leg breaking techniques, which we see him employ frequently in recent depictions.
Aikido "looks" like one of those arts that has been greatly watered down for modern marketing and consumption. It's practitioners looking like they are moving slathered in honey. What would it look like if it was taught and refined with an aggressively resisting combat focus?
With a boxing/karate/wrestling/judo base, Batman in the 1940s would have essentially been the predecessor to a modern MMA fighter like Georges St-Pierre. And assuming that Batman is around 6'2" and explosively athletic, virtually no one would have been able to deal with him in the 1940s. He would have fucked you up every which way. Great video!
Even in modern times I see Batman just picking up everything practical and leaving the rest from even the most “useless” of styles. Batman in the modern age would be a GSP level or probably better fighter who also has wide array of knowledge in covert warfare and psych scare tactics while being outfitted in some of the most expensive and effective high powered non lethal weaponry on the planet.
@@gnarrcan108 He would definitely need to rely far more on technology in the modern world. I think that the Nolan films did a mostly great job of making Batman believable in the 21st century. And Nolan very intelligently had several characters outside of Bruce Wayne's inner circle figure out that Bruce Wayne is Batman; the hardware that Batman uses in the Nolan films would have to be funded by someone with enormous resources.
Batman is a detective and a fighter. He would study the criminal before fighting them. Also, he never subdues a criminal completely because he always needs to get his information first. No matter what fighting style he employs, he never puts his opponent into shock.
If Batman wants to survive in 2022, he will need the Batman Beyond suit from Batman Arkham Knight. With that, his armor is bulletproof, stabproof, jaw protected, and his elbow and fist covered by metals can easily knock out anyone who stands in his way.
I think a modern Batman would probably rely a lot more on his gadgets to supplement his martial arts training, as well as using various tactics to tip any fight in his favour before it even begins. Like, luring the criminals into a building full of enclosed spaces that he booby-trapped beforehand. Think Kevin McCallister with access to military-grade equipment Or using his gadgets as what amounts to special effects, to distract, disorient, and just freak out his enemies In terms of martial arts, I don't know that much about them, but I think for the most part the martial arts he'd learn would be the same as what you suggested here. Maybe he'd also learn Brazilian ju-jitsu.
Exactly. His armor can give him a major advantage against unarmored criminals. The 127 martial arts styles from the comics is pretty ridiculous though lol.
BRAZILIAN JUJITSU IS VERY MUCH OVERATED! GOOD FOR THE RING BUT NOT THE STREET: LYING DOWN ON THE GROUND AND ROLLING AROUND WHILE GETTING KNIFED WON'T BE TOO GOOD!!!
@@damonking76 Submission techniques would be useful in stealth takedowns, since you are taking your enemies by surprise, and Batman can certainly choke people out in a few seconds or brake their bones
I was also thinking that, without today's medical care and sports medicine and equipment, Batman in the '40s (and presumably through the '50s) would only really be able to do what he does at an effective level for 15-20 years. He would be doing many things that members of modern special operations units do, and generally by the time those guys are in their forties, they have to retire. In reality, especially at that time, Batman would be a figure in Gotham for around a decade, though that's plenty of time for him to complete his mission. But one thing that would be necessary for continuing his mission, if necessary, would be to find a younger guy to take over the Batman mantle and train him up, which would be like the Zorro character -- a succession of Batmans. (Zorro was actually one of the inspirations for Batman.) The Batman Beyond series explored that, and eventually it would be great to see that explored in a live-action adaption!
Ikr, most criminals are either trying to make ends meet (like a goon or your average robber) or they are just crazy and find doing bad things fun/interesting (murderer). But not many are going to be an MMA opponent or even seriously took a class. 😂😂
Krav Maga, Kali, Boxing, Taekwondo, Karate (Goju-ryu, Kyokushin, Uechi-ryu, styles that focus on self defense and contact. Or Wado-ryu, which was used to create taiho-jutsu), Muay Thai, Judo and Aikido/Akijujutsu/Hapkido are the main ones that come to my head.
Something to understand with martial arts is how easy it is to cross over when they don't conflict. For example I train Judo and one of my coaches is an Olympic level Judo coach. Sometimes we cross train at a BJJ school, and we wear white belts there, him included. He'll submit black belts in BJJ because of how much it crosses over. Let's take Karate, boxing and Muay Thai. Someone who masters one style of Karate can easily pick up boxing and Muay Thai, or vice versa. Yes there are differences in Karate round kicks and Muay Thai round kicks. I also do Karate, I did Muay Thai from 2002 to 2005. I can easily transition my round kicks from the Muay Thai method to Karate method when I need to. If someone mastered Karate, Judo, Aikido as an adult, and did boxing and wrestling as a kid/high school, they would easily pick up BJJ, Muay Thai, and what not
Great analysis. I had similar experiences within martial arts judo, Aikido, hapkido, Also Kung fu, Taekwondo and kickboxing the crossover is quite easy
It's my understanding that Aikido doesn't have any resistance training. If you're Batman or a descendant of Batman then you need resistance training constantly. You're up against resistance all the time as Batman
Did anyone mention Savate, french kickboxing? While Batman mostly uses his fist, on occasion he has kicked, kneed and used other unorthodox strikes. The writers never credit any fighting style for these attacks, but many of them bare a very striking similarity with techniques from boxe franciase and savate de rue. Considering the era that stories were originally written, it isn’t hard to imagine Bob Kane, Bill Finger, or another writer or artist working on the series being familiar to savate in same way, having either been exposed to it in person, through film, or read about it in a book or article. It would also make sense for someone like Batman to have trained in it. Not only is it a discipline that would be relatively easy for him to study (just travel to Paris) compared to other less well-known (at the time) kicking martial arts, but also because so many self-defense experts, such as Edward William Barton-Wright, Emile Andre, Jean Joseph Renaud, William E. Fairbarn, and Eric A. Sykes, have all drawn heavily from the French martial art for their own systems. Systems that share many of the same street-fighting features as Batman’s. But it isn’t just martial artist from the past who saw the advantages of knowing savate. BE’s kickboxing expert Fraser Coffeen offered his own insight in how savate, a martial art rooted in street fighting, could prove useful to a vigilante like Batman: Savate is an excellent choice for Batman for a number of reasons. To start, savate is one of the few kicking-based martial arts that is contested primarily while wearing shoes. In savate, you strike with the shoe, not with the shin as in other arts. Obviously, Batman needs to keep his boots on during a fight, so using savate is a good choice. This also allows him to pad his boots, making his kicks more effective. The savate chasse lateral high kick was probably Batman’s most used kick. As a whole, it’s also a very defensive-based style, using a lot of movement to avoid shots while coming back with your own kicks. As Batman tended to face a number of foes at once, this kind of defense was important - even small blows will accumulate when landed with too much frequency, so a style like Muay Thai that generally takes more blows than savate would be detrimental to Batman in a large scale melee. As Mr. Coffeen explained, savate fits perfectly into Batman’s philosophy of “hitting but not being hit” fighting style. It also allows for Batman to take advantage of his footwear, as we see here in this example, where he throws a kick that bares a very strong resemblance to a “high body” coup de pied from boxe franciase, landing with his booted heel. Another kick that bares a striking resemblance to one used in savate is demonstrated by Robin, who uses the tip of his shoe to deliver a “belt kick” - while simultaneously throwing a foe. Now compare Robin’s kick with this illustration taken from this 1896 article “Fighting with Four Fists”, introducing savate to the American readers of McClure’s Magazine. Of course, the old street-fighting, self-defense aspect of savate du rue didn’t focus solely on the shoe or boot. It also taught one to use of the knees and elbows, and here we have Batman’s sidekick Robin throwing a knee that looks suspiciously like one of those shown in a savate self-defense manuals.
"THE FENCING OF BATMAN Surprisingly, one of the few martial arts outside of boxing, jiu-jitsu, and wrestling we actually see Batman and Robin training in is fencing. While it might seem ludicrous that a modern (well, modern in 1940) crime-fighter would need to know how to use the foil or sabre, it turns out that in Gotham City it is a rather useful talent. The Golden Age Batman seems to find himself in a duel every couple of months against modern day pirates, gentlemen thieves, or villains like the Cavalier of Crime or the Penguin. While Batman might not be a master swordsman, he is competent enough to hold his own against most foes in a clash of blades. But even if he wasn’t facing so many sword-wielding criminals, would fencing offer any benefits to an urban vigilante? Bruce Wayne himself thinks so, telling Robin that “…fencing teaches you quickness and movement…” Our own TP Grant, a fencer himself, further informs us how it would aid Batman in facing off against armed opponents: “…weapon combat is very different from unarmed combat, so getting a feel for that distance is important. Precise footwork and manipulation of said distance is also a fundamental element of that sport. A fencer develops a sense of timing for when to close or open distance, and an explosive burst with which to do it. Good compliment to any striking training as it helps develop good, straight punches. And for any weapon defense training it teaches the ability to move quickly away from wild slashes with a knife or swings of a club and then leap in to grab in between swings.” That someone like Batman, who would want to make it a priority to never to be struck because of the potential fatal consequences but to also always exploit an opening to deliver his own coup de grace, would study a sport that stresses such important principles should come as no surprise. When facing off against criminals armed with knives or cudgels, let alone swords, Batman would find that the skills developed in fencing to be very beneficial in his line of work. Batman wasn’t alone in this thinking, for another Bruce, this one with the last name Lee, also saw the advantages of certain fencing techniques, having learned about them through his fencing brother, Peter. Bruce Lee appears to have incorporated many concepts from the sport into own martial art philosophy/style of Jeet Kune Do, including the stance and the principle of the “Stop-Thrust”, which Lee calls “Stop-Kick.” Fencing also stressed efficiency as well as control over distance, timing and rhythm, all things that both Bruces would find useful in a fight. It should be noted that foil, epee and sabre were not the only weapons that Bruce Wayne and his ward studied. A passing comment to Dick Grayson, also in Batman #4, is that “in our business, it helps to know the use of all weapons.” This hints that Batman and Robin have familiarized themselves with many other hand-held or even thrown weapons, and while we can only guess which ones I think it would be safe to assume that knife, stick, cane, quarterstaff, baton, cudgel would all be on the list (along with, of course, thrown weapons such as the boomerang)."
Boxing taekwondo karate and judo are the main styles that batman always uses, compined with bodybuilding calisthenics and gymnastics, also while traveling abroad he learned many secret fighting styles that gave him an extra edge.
@@kullenberg I mean if we talking about arkham batman then that dude definitely does bodybuilding..... yet moves like a ballerina. Also gorodn ryan, who is arguably the best bjj practitioner in the world right now has a heavy bodybuilding workout routine. Muscle mass is defintiely helpful
@@MilkANDMagicbody building isn't useful, it's aesthetic in purpose. Powerlifting and especially cardio training would be far more useful to him than bodybuilding.
My “head canon-Batman” dawned the cape and cowl at the age of 25, left Gotham to travel the world for 12 years, at age 13, and witnessed the murder of his parents at age 8. This gives him 17 years of training both his mind and his body with the best of the best, rather than just 12
I can see him having studied ( if in more modern days) Boxing,Catch wrestling, and Bruce Tegner's Jukado ( which is based on Japanese Judo/Jujitsu, Karate, and Aikido along with stick fighting and improvised weapons),and savate
I study martial arts. Have for over 10 years. Having done many styles, from karate to mma, traditional Japanese jujutsu, bjj, judo muay Thai and boxing. I am also a massive fan of batman. Historical timeframe aside. If batman were alive now training I think his first style would have actuality been wrestling. Its prominent in american schools and I agree with you on gymnastics for strength training. Second would have been boxing for sure. Not only is it said so in the comics, but boxing is super important for learning to realistically fight in the pocket and learn good defense. For his boxing style I would say it would be peekaboo style. Mike Tyson's style. Its super defensive and super aggressive while looking very menacing stalking down his opponents while also being super elusive with head movement to avoid punches. While I agree with you on karate based on comics, I feel like muay Thai would have been the better option and muay boran (boran for headbutts) as they are without a doubt incredible striking styles and the preferred striking style for mma, including elbows, knees, kicks and clinch work with foot sweeps (which are super energy efficient ways of taking people down). Karate has no clinch work and does not have elbows and knee strikes on the same level as muay Thai. As or Japanese jujutsu again for that time period and even based on the comics I completely agree. As it has an emphasis on self defense in regards to joint locks and has all the judo throws and submissions in traditional jujitsu in their traditional form. Batman would have also learnt weapons from traditional jujitsu as it teaches the katana, Jo staff, batton and weapon defenses. I don't believe he would have done aikido though as the only thing it offers of any value really is joint locks, bit all of which are already in traditional Japanese jujutsu as that's where aikido like judo came from. He would not have bothered and I believe having done boxing and wrestling he would have seen through the lack of realisim. So that being said, modern batman would have gone to Brazil and trained in bjj instead. And would have picked up his weapons training from traditional Krabi Krabong instead when in Thailand. As for ninjitsu I agree with you again in regards to comic book accuracy/fantasy. However for realism and modern day I would say batman instead learnt fight tactics from special opps solider/marine. Someone versed in shock and awe battlefield tactics like infiltrate at night and take by surprise using gas grenades and flash bangs. He also would have trained the Robbins and bat girl these tactics to fight like a unit in the us army. But good analysis otherwise. You have the most comic book accurate version of his fighting skills while being realistic that I have seen that match my own thoughts. But having trained in all the above styles I would say a modern day version would be the ones I mentioned. You clearly have a decent understanding if martial arts though.
@@hmt-0764 didn't need to master them all. I worked out which ones are sh**, and which ones are worth doing through trial and error. I settled on muay thai, no-gi bjj, judo and boxing. what you will find at most mma clubs today. pro fighters don't have black belts and don't know all the moves in bjj to be able to effectively fight for real. a person can train for belts or train for fights. the person who trains to fight will always come out on top. that's why those styles in particular work.
@@kenichi1132 it really depends on how much years you want to train and learn how to fight like him. For example in 5 years you can learn like 4-7 different martial arts like : boxing, muay Thai, judo, kali, keysi(known as batman martial arts), wrestling, ninjustu and jujitsu (not bjj) batman never fights on the ground so that's useless
"Master of 121 martial art styles" Comic writers only wrote things like this probably because it sounds more impressive and fantastical for children reading the comics. Realistically, being a master of 121 martial arts would not only be impractical, but useless as well, since a lot of those martial arts have similar techniques with slightly differences that wound be redundant between each other. He would definitely have his base as a boxer and wrestler and would study several techniques from other styles to add to his arsenal. Mastering 127 styles for the sake of it would be completely useless to his purpose of an efficient crime fighter, so I'm firm believer that he would have a philosophy similar to Bruce Lee that's "retain what's useful and discard what's useless".
For somebody who is trying to master as many martial arts as possible, boxing and wrestling are great picks. They are hyper focused on single forms of practice that mastering them is far faster than other more complex martial arts
Imo as a fighter myself I think the wonder of mastering 127 arts is not that its 127 different arts, it's simply that you have 127 different levels of experince in combat. Less about how much you know, and more about making sure you never don't know anything. It's a concept fighters use irl, learn alot of techniques so your never taken off guard. Though mastery of said techniques like you said would be bullshit, in 12 years atleast. There are like 400 styles of kungfu, people have mastered all 400, it's possible but Bruce would literally need a time machine, or you'd have to day that he didn't really stop his martial arts training untill coming back. Now, your landscape makes an interesting setting, the 40s and 50s. We have to note that martial arts is very primitive these days, VERY. Batman is literally fighting on a wavelength 30 or 40 years ahead of his time. If we squeeze every bit if realism out of this that we can, imo the most realistic path would been boxing and wrestling as a kid, and then he would've also competed in muay thai, karate, kickboxing, sambo, lethwei. Bruce would spend most of his time in East Asia and Brazil, as they were the fight capitols of the world at that time. Jujistu, atleast brazillian jujistu to my knowledge wasn't invented yet, so while in the east he'd learn a combination between classical jujisu, judo, ninjustu, probably a swordftighing art like kendo, a stick fighting art like escrima or kali, and I would not be surprised if Bruce simply studied other martial arts inbetween doing these, irl what most fighters do is compete in one sport and then they can study another one in the background and get good at it. Same applies here, Bruce would be just competing in muay thai, kickboxing and judo but also most likley studying a balloon other arts in his spare time, pulling only what's useful from them, and what he can use irl. In the end, I think Bruce's fighting style would be a mix of Boxing, Muay thai, Judo, Classical jujistu, Eastern stick fighting and swordfighting, wrestling, and FRAGMENTS of other martial arts that are useful. Now I also wanna say that batman would probably have a severe amount of combat training not focused on martial arts, such as ninjustu survival training, he would most likley go through grueling test by many masters testing him on combat skills falling outside of martial arts. This is important because I keep having to remind people that a 200lb man is and always will be a 200lbs man, it doesn't not matter what he practices, if he hits something it break and that's tru for the NORMAL person. Imagine how that applies to Batman. keep that in mind. Realistically if saenchai had the intelligence of the smartest man on the world, he would be batman. Look him up.
I believe he would have learned catch, catch can (the origin of free style wrestling which also contributed to BJJ) and Judo where BJJ gets it's technique the Kimura or hat wrestling calls a chicken wing, there was also William E. Fairbrand's Defendu and Bartitsu that was popularized by the Sherlock Holmes. Both of which were historically old school MMA. But to deal with multiple combatants he would also need a martial art like Baughauzan, popularized by the airbenders in ATLA, and Kali/Escrima and or Silate, as well as elements of wingchun/trap boxing
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If he went to the Kodokan back then he could have had Judo and Aikido under one roof. Kano also tried to get Funakoshi to teak Karate there. I don't think he would have bothered with Aikido, as the 'attacks' are nowhere near reality. Boxing, Wrestling, Judo would be a very good base. Adding some JJJ and Karate (the way it was taught back then) would be good to add to the mix. Basically, he was like Geoff Thompson but with gadgets :) Side note; him not being Japanese would not have been a barrier to training once the people found out he was a billionaire.
A good summary; you do well keeping in in the 1920s-30s time frame. A few thoughts; while I too think Bruce would have spent most of his training time in Asia, Japan specifically, I think a school or _ryu_ which did _Bujutsu_ in general would have been more functioonal; this would give him proficiency in striking, grappling, locks and weapon arts. As both a karateka and aikidoka, I think Bruce would've sought the more pragmatic (re: combat applicable) arts, so not the codified _Shotokan,_ but possibly _Goju,_ and *most* likely old school, BRUTAL Okinawan _Shuri Te_ (he alluded to this in the _Mask of the Phantasm_ film). Also, by this point, Morihei Ushiba Sensei's style of Aikido was moving away from field combat application, so I think _Aikijutsu_ which incorporates more strikes and throws would have been better. Given his size, strength the the high secrecy of it at that point, finding a teacher of Koga style ninjutsu would have been difficult, but he _may_ have found a teacher willing to initiate him in some Fuma, Fujiwara, or possibly Iga techniques. I als think he likely would have spent time in China and India just to learn their body conditining, meditative, body control and pain mitigation techniques.
I think depending on the version of the Batman you can pick 4 to 10 arts. However I feel Batman would be more of a Western Martial Artist. He would also have some Eastern training.
This is the same man who went to college and chose only to learn that which is practical, batman had 12 years of training to become the batman, he would cut out the fluff to learn thoughs arts which were most practical and efficient, not pretty but effective, to take down the common foe, therefore his arts, IN MY OPINION, were boxing, Muay thai, Wrestling (Dagestan style), Kali, Krav Maga, Jiu jitsu, judo and Tai Chi. Didn't have time to waste and needed to learn those arts most practical, keep in mind, his intellect and physical peak performance would allow a "basic art" like boxing be lethally profficient.
Mastering might be pushing it. Mastering 1 and naturally then being able to incorporate and use techniques from many others (high level mma fighters tend to do this) in order to have a fully well rounded combat repertoire
@ 10:36 you said "although my version of bruce wayne would not be able to travel to Brazil to study this relatively new martial art in the 1930s." He could totally train bjj in Brazil. The judoka Mitsuya Maeda was fighting, entertaining and teaching in Brazil by 1914. By the 20s and 30s, gracie jui jitsu was growing along with other names in bjj
Great presentation. I would also add that as he gets older, he would ad more to his his arsenal. Many disciplines share similar principles of fighting and yet unique in applications. Being a crime fighter, some things are learned on the fly that would take Self mastery and trial-by-combat with a little guidance.
In a modern context I would have him practice MMA blended with Krav Maga with a strong emphasis on body blows & extremity breaks. You'd be surprised how easily someone goes down with a knee to the solar plexus, a hook punch to the liver or a broken wrist on their dominant hand. MMA would be the base style because so many other styles can be incorporated into it. Krav Maga would be the fine tuning element because there are so many techniques that are potentially lethal, but can be dialed back for whatever purpose the user wants.
@@theultrablackman1654 The only time he’s on steroids is in the storylines where he uses venom. Which was clearly illustrated in the latest Batman movie
Realistically, Batman would very rarely confront an enemy head-on. The threat of them pulling a gun on him would just be too high. A realistic, 1940's Batman movie would have him mostly ambush criminals and only face them head-to-head in the circumstance where he had no choice, or if he knew the enemy was unarmed, he might face them head on to prove a point.
In the Frank Miller graphic novel Batman: Year One, Bruce Wayne is shown sidekicking a tree in half and shattering bricks with a strike. In a fight, his internal dialogue says, "I don't crack his skull. I don't crush his larynx. I don't break his ribs or punch my hand through his chest." He is also shown doing a front handspring through a window, suggesting gymnastics.
I wrote an essay once about all the martial arts you need for unarmed combat, I put Muay Thai, for striking, boxing for better mastery of punches, teakwondo for better kicks, wrestling, bjj, for ground game and grappling, judo for stand up grappling, that should cover everything hand to hand, now for Batman I would add parkour, and any disarming martial art, but those are up for debate, so 7-10 martial arts for Batman realistically, you can do mma to but I’m trying to cover all the best arts for specific things, mma is a jack of all trades master of none sort of thing, but still works
Wrestling in that time period actually hD a plethora of submissions in and of itself. Definitely boxing with Alfred, and as he got older, possibly military hand to hand (Alfred was prior brittish spec forces) always ninjutsu, karate, jujitsu and some weapons training (sword, stick, staff. He did train all the Robins). He would eventually make his own style I think.
I really like this video, and I would prefer to see batman in an older setting instead of modern age, like, seriously we're almost in batman beyond era. Can you make another version of this video including legendary fighters like Bruce lee and IP man. Edit: also more on what Alfred would have taught him based on his secret service background.
As you said in the video, Bruce would've likely gone to places to study multiple arts at a once. Assuming he went to the mainland after studying judo/jujitsu in Japan, I think he would've learned both Thai Boxing, and it's sister art of Burmese Boxing aka Lethwei, which is fought bareknuckle and includes headbutts, which I'm pretty sure I've seen Bats dole out. Even by the 30s Thai boxers already had a notorious reputation for defeating both kung-fu and karate "experts." He also wants to leave as little of a footprint as possible, so going somewhere way off the grid to practice an obscure but brutally efficient martial art seems like a very "young Bruce Wayne" thing to do.
I do agree Thai boxing is probably the best style at that time and in the modern age however I think the footwork and distance managment of karate like shotokan or goju ryu is important when facing multiple attackers and not to mention kyoukushin karates body condtioning im probably being biased but I can see Mauy thai/Lethwei being more effective with its elbows and uses of the clinch and sweeps
Love the video and it's realistic application of Batman!!! I'm curious as to what a similar video breakdown for the Emerald Archer would be? I can't help but think Of the European equivalent of Boxing nd wrestling would be applied, and maybe more unknown Euro-styles like British mixed fighting style, Savate, Pankration, irish stick fighting, or more. If you want to switch out one of the Japanese styles for Korean Tae-Kwon-Do for its more prominent use of kicks I don't think It'd be a stretch to say that a few years in Seol would be out of the realm of possibility.
I agree with you on it being humanly impossible (even for Wayne) to MASTER 127 martial arts in a lifetime, let alone in 12 years. It makes much more sense that he chose a few, quintessential styles. The only point where I diverge is about the redundancy of mastering Jiu Jitsu/Judo/Aikido. I believe he would have mastered JUDO (which was created by Jigoro Kano by codifying the tltechniques found in its predecessor, Japanese Jiu Jitsu, and giving it a phylosophical aspect (incorporating the DO to the techniques). Back then, Judo encompassed not only throws and takedowns, but also ground submission techniques found in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu today. So, I believe he would have mastered: 1. Wrestling 2. Boxing 3. Karate 4. Judo 5. Ninjutsu
This is a good video, I enjoyed this one! For a modern version of Batman (based off of my own martial arts training and “The Batman” movie w/ Robert Pattinson, I think his fighting style would be a more grounded approach. Of course with Ninjutsu being an exception. I like to imagine that Bruce Wayne would’ve started in Boxing and Brazilian Jiu-jitsu as a kid. By the time he reaches the age of 18 (keeping his photographic memory in mind) Bruce would probably reach brown belt level in BJJ. Once he starts traveling to different countries, Brazil would be Bruce’s first destination to complete his BJJ training. *Side note, BJJ is not 100% ground fighting. There are standing techniques including throws, joint-locks, takedowns, etc… After that, the remaining 9 years would’ve been spent in Thailand for Muay Thai (some organizations use a ranking system), Israel for Krav Maga and Japan for Ninjutsu. Again, this is based off of the more grounded style from the new movie and some of my own martial arts background for a more modern version of Batman. Plus, with Bruce Wayne’s photographic memory and his dedication, he would've completed his basic black belt level training in each of these arts about 1 year early. - Boxing (10 years) - Brazilian Jiu-jitsu (10 yrs) + (3 yrs in Brazil) - Muay Thai (3 years) - Krav Maga (3 years) - Ninjutsu (3 years)
Little bonus point. The 1939 Batman wasn't non-lethal. He's seen killing multiple thoughts. Though he had the no killing rule later, he didn't start with it.
There are a few tenets of Ninjutsu that are used by the Bat over his many years of portrayal: Tanuki-Gakure-no-Jutsu, or the art of the raccoon, stressed the importance of vantage points in high places, taking advantage of the human being’s blind spot being outside of the 45 degree angle, allowing for effective sneak attacks, surveys and escapes. A good portrayal can be during some of the Predator segments in the Arkham games, where you can zip between vantage points to obufuscate your whereabouts to enemies to disorient and eventually take them down non-lethally. Another one is the bat motif. In history, ninja would sometimes wear masks depicting terrifying animals or demons of myth and folklore, most commonly the Hannya mask from Noh theatre but also extending to other mythical beasts like kitsune or multi-railed foxes. For Batman, creating the image of a night creature stalking every dark corner hunting criminals is this technique. His use of smoke bombs, grappling hooks, glider capes and a myriad of other gadgets also cinches his Ninpo expertise.
Excellent video. A very common sense approach to how one might train to become an effective fighter in any situation. I really can't find any fault in this analysis except that maybe he wouldn't have mastered more than one or two styles and then learned as much as was practical from the other styles. Most fighters, even if trained several styles, will lead with one style and use the rest as back up skills to the main one. Batman would've probably begun his career leading with Karate/Boxing and backed up those skills with all the others you've mentioned here. I believe he would've continued practicing while he was fighting crime so he would likey have become a master in more styles as time went on. Perhaps by the time he was 50 he would've become a master in all 7 styles which would be necessary as he got older and slower. Fantastic video!
Yeah I think for what he wanted to do Boxing/wrestling/judo “mastered” makes the most sense, with karate and jujutsu added in to fill the gaps and add to his toolkit. And then ninjitsu for all the superhero-ish stuff, because that’s just part of the character. Boxing and wrestling because he’s American and because those are the oldest martial arts anyway, but I put judo up there too because it’s the best at getting someone off you quickly and potentially knocking them out with it’s throw arsenal, which would be essential if he’s fighting multiple opponents. Karate and JuJutsu add a lot too, but he could easily pick and choose from those arts without having to master them. Boxing and wrestling he needs to ‘master’ to really benefit from them, and Judo throws are too difficult to just learn and sprinkle in, you gotta put in years to pull them off on a truly resisting opponent. A kick and a submission can be learned fairly quickly for a high level martial artist, but not upper body throws
It takes a hobbyist that long to get a bjj black belt. Someone like Batman would only take a couple of years considering his previous wrestling ability as well as having amazing body coordination having done gymnastics.
1930's Japan would mean Judo, Aikido, Kendo, and Sumo. He would need to travel to Okinawa to learn what would become Karate which was still called 'Chinese Hand' and Would have included Savate and Filipino martial arts. He would want at least two years there leaning from them. From there he would want to head to Fushan province Hong Kong where he would learn many different martial arts. I would thing Xing Yi, BajinQuan and Shui Jiao would be good bets. Then he could head to the southern provinces to study with the Shaolin and learn Hung Gar, White Crane, Wing Chun and Shaolin Northern Fist or Drunken Fist. This would take a further 3 to 5 years. From there he could try to learn Chinese catch wrestling and also Escrima, Kali and Capoeria in the Caribbean islands as there were many different cultures intermingling at that time. This would give him: Gymnastics. Boxing. (Western and Wing Chun) Wrestling (Judo, jiu jutsu, Shui Jiao, Aikido and Catch Wrestling). Taichi Juan, Xing Yi, Hong Gar, White Crain Kung Fu, Savate, and Capoeria, Kali and Escrima as well as Karate and Budo to finish out unarmed and armed combat striking. He wouldn't be able to master all these but each have things to offer (strength, flexibility, adaptability, endurance, position and posture control, balance fluid and rhythmic fighting and when to break that rhythm and hand trapping,parrying, joint locks, sweeps, single and double leg takedowns and how to defend them and meditation and conditioning training to prepare his body for combat. Then he could combine these styles together and create his own idiosyncratic method of hand to hand, grappling and weapons combat.
A good article. However, I have to disagree, A 1920's Bruce Wayne would not go to Japan. He would go to Shanghai. 1920's Shanghai was a international City with a mix of European, American, Japanese,Indian, and Japanese. He would continue learn American and british boxing, french savate, Japanese judo/jiujitsu, indian wrestling, chinese boxing ( Hsing Yi/yi chuan, praying mantis, Mizong). He would also be able to study modern police investigation techniques from the famed Shanghai metropolitan police and deal with it's infamous criminal underworld as well.
Batman instructor's were either *Professional Killers (Assassins), Master Martial Artist/Fighters, and Grandmaster's of the Martial Art's (well-rounded in multiple forms and all categories of combat including weapons).* List of a couple styles he learned: Boxing Fencing Wrestling Judo Jujutsu Aikido Okinawan Karate Hapkido Tae Kwon Do Savate Capoeira Krav Maga Ninjutsu Togakure ninpo Taijutsu Togakure Ninpo Ju-taijutsu Goshin-Jutsu Koppojutsu Koshijutsu Kyusho-jutsu Kung-Fu Tai Chi Lohanquan Wing Chun Dragon Style Kung-Fu Shaolin Kungfu Wu Dang Kung-Fu Chi-Na Dim Mak Wushu Sanda Tantui Kali Yaw Yan Silat Gatka Kalaripayuttu Valamai Kilari In modern era? Batman had the money, networking, and connection's to sought out whom he wanted base on reputation alone. Either they were well-known or has a notorious reputation, Bruce Wayne wanted the best. I did my research on Batman! He has a total of 21 CQC instructors. So, Batman mastering a 127 different *Martial Art's* alone is a definite possibility. It's a definite possibility that one man can master over a 127 different martial arts. Research Batman methods on REM sleeping that he learn from Shihan Masasutsa, it's psychological methods that tricks the mind into making 1 hrs of sleep into a full 8hrs of rest. It also, improves your mental reception and recall. Batman use this method a lot too improve a lot of learned skills. Arcourse, it's takes lots of training to improve this method. From a grounded approach? If Batman wanted to learn and improve his overall fighting skills? It would definitely been *NINJUTSU?* In the comics, he had 8 ninjutsu master's skilled in different method's of combat. 2 where professional killer's, next 6 were well known grandmasters. Plus, his training regiment alone was base on mastering multiple martial arts styles, weapons uses, assassination methods, pressure points striking, key master blows, psychological and strategic method's, meditation techniques for stronger reception and total focus. Yes? It would be an impossibility too master what Batman did. Unless you're hungry and obsess with perfection. It could happen depending on the individual resolve.
@@eagle162 Impossibility depends on the individual. Shaolin monks alone are well-mastered in 72 different fighting styles. Batman more grounded approach would've been ninjutsu. In the comics, he had 8 ninjutsu master's, 2 where professional killer's, next 6 where respected grandmasters. After all, *NINJUTSU* is base on 21 different categories of warfare training. And no? Its not a style (Way of Thinking), it's base on warfare tactics and categorical skill's of survival. Between his karate training and grappling training? It would be useless to pick it up from a local dojo (in Japan) when he learned a complete system of combat from a grandmaster. Batman wasn't seeking a black belt, he wanted total training that bypasses belt ranks and certificates. He wanted actual professionals teaching him how to fight. Plus, before becoming Batman, Bruce Wayne use his money to attain certain connections he needed to complete his goals. And the best professionals (overall terms) he can find and train him.
@@Dragonflyjones67 Shaolin Monks are not that at all and what people known as Shaolin Monks it's just a tourist trap they're just glorified stage performers, actually there was no shaolin monks at the temple since it had been abandoned until the movie Shaolin Temple with Jet Li became popular before There was no Monks at the temple, it doesn't matter the individual it would still be impossible for a human to do that no matter the IQ or professional a person is learning from it is impossible to master all of that,hack you can look up to see if Batman would be possible on Google it ain't. Where did you learn about ninjutsu anyway, just out of curiosity.
@@eagle162 How did I learn about Ninjutsu????: Jininichi Kawakami Shoto Tanemura Masasaaki Hatsumi Stephen Hayes Ronald Duncan There's nothing fake about the shaolin monk's at all. Especially when you got people prolonging the art till this day. Speaking of styles? Is it a possibility for one person to master 20 style's out of the 1000x martial arts in the world today? A lot of fighting system's has a curriculum of styles and method's that goes along with it. Bokator itself has a catalog of 10,000 techniques including weapon's system's that goes along with the art. Is it a possibility to master all of those techniques? Cheng Style Bahuazhang has a total of 12 animal styles, including Xing Yi. Is it a possibility too master those animals styles (weapon's styles also)? Okinawan Karate teaches striking method's, pressure points, tegumi grappling, and kobudo. Is it a possibility too master these as well? It depends on the level of dedication you put in. Unless you have a high *Obsession* for learning? You'll never learn nothing new at all. Between the 10&20yrs Batman learned throughout his travels on and off? How much information did he obtained? Batman develop different learning method's for himself. And has *SYNESTHESIA!* and a eidetic memory to recall everything that he learn. Plus, he speaks 10 languages!!! A highly dedicated person can get thing's done.
@@Dragonflyjones67 yes they are fake Shaolin Monks are just glorified stage performers they don't learn real martial arts and they are not real martial artist look up Jet Li's interview on Shaolin Temple there were no Monks at the time he start filming, no it is not possible for anybody to master 20 martial arts practitioners of martial arts who named will even tell you that, that is only possible in fiction.
I totally agree, but i think he would first go to the army so he’s has basic understanding of strategies and understanding how weapons work and how we can disable them.
Wrestling and boxing sure would be the baseline but Alfred's tutelage may lead to DEFENDU considering the his life before buttler. Also, this was in a time where JUDO & Jiu-Jitsu where twin brothers and intersected deeply. yet the main benefit of going to Nihon wouldn't be martial arts, but shinobi trainning... Considering he had a baseline of survival and defendu it would be quite feasible for him to grasp the art of survival, spycraft and gadget use.
I like where you're going with this video. Judo and Karate would definitely be something he'd learn in the 30s Japan. From boxing and wresting to judo and karate, he'd be a bad man. I still got 5 minutes left of the video. Bushido and ninjitsu have been a part of who he is, for as long as I can remember. I don't see him just learning multiple styles available at a school, but targeting a school for the styles he needs I do see him doing.
I'd give him 6, from the 30s. I'd stick with Japan as well, because ninjitsu is essential to him. Boxing, wrestling, judo, and karate makes him ufc status. Bushido for weapons and defense against them, ninjitsu for stealth. If he masters judo, there isn't much point to Jiu Jitsu or Aikido.
Also considering the history of Karate, I'd suspect he'd be more focused on learning that in Okinawa where it originated and hadn't been changed to meet Japanese ideals of self perfection. There he could also learn Karate's weapons (before they were taken out of Karate and became it's own martial art, Kobudo). Though I agree, mastering Judo I think would give him enough of an edge to not need Jiu jitsu or Aikido (or more realistically at that time, Akijutsu).
Im not sure if this existed at the time but he definitely would've trained krav maga. He not only would be able to disarm opponents but also have knowledge on how armed weapons are used in order to immobilize his opponents better.
I think a modern Bruce Wayne let’s say he’s 30 in 2022 and his parents died at 9 so 2001 would be very similar to what’s stated in this with his main emphasis being on gymnastics, (Olympic)weightlifting, boxing and wrestling. Bruce is also a very advanced student so he’d likely finish high school very early at around 15 or 16 at the very latest and by 2008 a 16 year old Bruce would be able to hire private trainers for things like Muay Thai, Karate, Judo, BJJ etc. along with as well as private schooling and tutors in chemistry forensics coding engineering criminology languages etc especially with the internet audiobooks and TH-cam along with a photographic memory and a butler allowing him nothing but free time he could teach himself how to throw knives make smoke Bombs sleight of hand disguise etc at a very young age. an 18 year old Bruce at that point would easily be able to be a traveling student for around 6 years learning and/or sharpening various skills and martial arts and would be likely already have multiple unofficial doctorates or PhDs by 24 he would already be very adept in most things he would need to be Batman. Atp I believe this is when Bruce would spend 6 years mastering that ninjitsu ie his mental and spiritual strength and stealth skills etc (possibly league of assassins or something like that) by that time a 30 year old Batman would be very high level in pretty much all the main MMA martial arts a high level gymnast and weightlifter as he’s been training now for 20 years. Gotham isn’t a well known city and there’s plenty billionaires in 2022 along with the likelihood that Bruce likely lied to manipulated and disguised himself with the majority of his teachers they wouldn’t know who he his that along with his playboy persona with how easily people are deceived and convinced these days he likely wouldn’t be figured out by the majority of Gotham besides people who were really paying attention (Tim Drake)
A big problem when 'mastering' so many different martial arts goes beyond the sheer amount of information/skills to learn (even though that alone would make it impossible). Different martial arts have different ways of doing things, and a lot of them contradict eachother. Most boxers would teach you to pivot the lead foot when doing a lead hook. Most kickboxers would tell you not to do that.
love the concept of your vid. Plus the concept based in a bit of reality of the fighting arts, but you missed one thing. When it comes to the Japanese arts Post Olympic Judo would have given him a base making perfecting Jiu Justsu more about blending the distance between Boxing and wrestling. Ninjutsu would merely be learning the concepts of espionage and how to use propaganda of the Batman against the underworld. I think twelve year is spent mastering one style with with supplements from others. But more important is the learning of strategies and investigation. He is still obsessed with justice so bringing criminals to bare before the criminal system is his goal. A true Batman wouldn't fight as much as we think. This where his Ninja concepts and gymnastics would allow him to get in get the evidence and overtly pass it on to the GPD, subduing only who he needs to. Rumor of beating an entire gang would be stories he'd spread him self, even planting evidence that would make it appear that he had super powers. Sticking a Bat- erang in the end of a barrel of a gun of a guard after being choke out from behind would add to it. After all a gangster would be above lying about how he got beat if there was evidence to support it.
I think Batman realistically would probably learn catch wrestling as it’s the original form of wrestling which was then made more safe to go to college wrestling and he probably would’ve heard of how judo players were constantly losing against the catch wrestlers from England so he probably would’ve went to England to further learn catch wrestling after finding out what they could do to the judo players
If you take the early comics up until the introduction of Robin, the martial arts that he generally uses were boxing and jiu jitsu(although to me it was more like judo). So he may have learnt boxing in USA and studied jiu jitsu from Japan.
I enjoy your video however In real life Samurai where known to go on a journey for instruction from teachers from other Ryu-ha the practice was known as Musha Shugyo. Kano had studied multiple styles of Jujutsu mainly Kito Ryu and Tenjin Shinyo Ryu. Also Catch Wrestling was a very rough style of grappling. It included all maner of Takedowns and Submissions. Also I Forgot to mention that there are apparently Ko-Ryu that teach shinobi Related/Esque aspects for example: Araki Ryu has devious arresting and weapon's tactics. Katori Shinto Ryu teaches how to counter shinobi tactics as well as going over strategy and tactics. Tatsumi Ryu has scouting and teaches strategy and tactics. Yagyu Shinkage Ryu (allegedly) has connections to Shinobi Skill's. Sekiguchi Ryu and Mubyoshi Ryu has teachings for revenge.
He's wearing a utility belt, cape, and helmet with a mask. Why would he role on the ground, when dealing with criminals, who gather guns and knifes. Karate, Judo, Kubudo, Boxing, Wrestling, Gymnastics, Savate, 5 Ancestor Fist Kung Fu, Ninjutsu, and Fencing/Kenjitsu.
Ok so back then, I think it’s some form of Okinawan karate, A police system of Japanese jujitsu, judo, of course ninjitsu, Brazilian jujitsu boxing, Sambo, wresting, Muay Thai, kung fu, Kali, he would also have developed his own system over that time. He would’ve also met someone who practices a extremely effective combat system that no one has ever heard of by some superkiller Weapons master. Also he would have learned A Japanese sword system, and a European sword fighting system as well.
This is a great video and I can agree with a great number of the statements made here. Really my only differing thoughts revolve mostly around the number of styles Batman would more realistically master. I think he would've pretty much have mastered Wrestling and Boxing, these being the two styles he utilizes the most when applicable. For example, I tend to fall back on my grappling experience from Judo instinctively more than I do my striking from Taekwondo. I also tend to instinctively add in a small amount of Combat Hapkido but I disregard Wing Chun and Yang Taijiquan moves entirely. In a similar vein, Batman would likely utilize his Wrestling and Boxing more instinctively than his others, apart from the Ninjutsu since he uses those skills so often. (Although I don't see the martial arts side of Ninjutsu as traditional Ninjutsu per say considering Shinobi trained and utilized skills that were used for spy work more than anything, but that's another argument altogether.) As for his skills with Karate, Japanese Jujutsu, Judo, and Aikido goes, I think he would be proficient in various aspects of these arts but not having necessarily mastered them all in full. I could see him mastering the basics of each of these styles, but with varying degrees of skill in others. For example, I could see him using a lot of Karate style kicks but likely not using much in the way of the punches, but also being skilled in a couple of takedowns (depending on the specific style/method) and also some elbow and/or knee strikes and open handed strikes. As for Aikido, I could see him emphasizing the joint locking techniques. (wrist locks and such.) I also think he would do well with mid-level Judo moves under his belt, likely being a brown belt or first degree black belt at best, which is still nothing to sneeze at. Of the Japanese martial arts listed, I think he would likely be the most focused on and use Japanese Jujutsu the most. Overall, I could see him being an excellent Ninjutsu practitioner in regards to stealth, An expert Wrestler and Boxer (his most utilized methods in a pinch), First degree in Aikido and Karate, brown or first degree black belt in Judo, and third or maybe fourth degree in Japanese Jujutsu. If I were to add in some arts that would benefit him in the modern day in addition to what has been covered in this video, I think Batman would also benefit from extensive Muay Thai and Kali/Escrima/Arnis training. He would then be able to use a wider variety of kicks (from both Karate and Muay Thai) and also gain the extra elbow, knee, and distinct shin kicks from Muay Thai mixed in with his kicks found in Karate. As for Kali/Escrima/Arnis he would gain an advantage by knowing how to disarm commonly used street weapons like knives and sticks while also benefiting from the empty-handed methods as well.
Here' s what I think Batman use: 1. Boxing (Base footwork, weaving and punching, as well as guarding with those forearm spikes) 2. Taekwondo (The complete traditional kind) 3. Kali (The only weapon-based martial arts you need. Also has a different kind of footwork than boxing and taekwondo) 4. Sambo (Standing grappling) 5. Muay Thai (Knees and elbows, and clinches, as well as lower body defense) 6. Brazillian Jiu Jitsu (Ground grappling, and sweeps) 7. Traditional Karate (Footwork, a different but still effective approach to striking) 8. Bujinkan (Ninjutsu and Bushido, basically the art of Ninjas and Samurais) 9. Capoeira (It was invented to fight while running, so I think it's perfect for chasing criminals, but I can't imagine Batman doing the stance) 10. Jeet Kun Do (Lateral footwork) Mix these all together and that's what I think Batman fight system would look like.
I would definitely think that Batman would realistically studied Boxing under Alfred because giving that he was a Ex-British Marine/SAS Soldier, Wrestling in High School, travel to Japan to study Kyokushin Karate, Kodokan Judo, Jiu-Jitsu, Aikido, and Ninjutsu. By the time he was Batman he would become invested In Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and have one of the Gracie family members privately teach him.
And Muay Thai in thailand
I don't think he would train BJJ because if you know judo kodokan you already know all the Tecniques of bjj
True but we all know Batman would still find away to train in the art at some point
@@user-cn7wy7xx5k I got a question which is better or more effective sombo or wrestling?
@@hmt-0764 i love wrestling, it’s amazing, one of the best martial arts in the world a wretler in a street fight is so dangerous. But in my opinion sambo is more effective because is like a great combination of wrestling, judo, boxing and Muay thai.
Someone who was a master of multiple martial arts was William Fairbairn who invented SWAT and many modern policing methods. He did boxing, American style wrestling, savate, judo,jujutsu, and kung fu. He learnt kung fu from the emperor of China's personal bodyguards who were each a master of a different styles of kung fu.
Fairburn is someone I think Batman would seek him out.
from the sounds of it that guy basically was batman.
So batman know's taizuchaungquan(emperor's long fist/long distance boxing)? Just asking.
After learning the basics of hand to hand combat from Pennyworth and dirty boxing and wrestling., Bruce would probably learn Bartitsu, which is a real martial arts that housed various martial artist but became to expensive to teach. From this Bruce would learn of others masters and be able to search them out. Only the combat tested masters though, which will place him in contact with the "League of Assassins" .
@@lonew2657 Bartitsu= the Krav Maga of gentlemen lol
That type of kung fu that the bodyguards practiced is called "bajiquan"
Batman CLEARLY did not learn Aikido, which is way too easy on opponents and lacks aggression. He learned Akijutsu, which involves LOTS of arm and leg breaking techniques, which we see him employ frequently in recent depictions.
Seems likely that Muy Thai should be an option as well
He already explained that he would have to stay in one country so he probably couldn’t travel to Thailand.
Aikido "looks" like one of those arts that has been greatly watered down for modern marketing and consumption. It's practitioners looking like they are moving slathered in honey. What would it look like if it was taught and refined with an aggressively resisting combat focus?
@@dinhnguyen2110 it would look like Aikijujutsu and Hapkido I guess.
@@GeorgeLucas_TaintedLegacy It would be a mix of different styles.
With a boxing/karate/wrestling/judo base, Batman in the 1940s would have essentially been the predecessor to a modern MMA fighter like Georges St-Pierre. And assuming that Batman is around 6'2" and explosively athletic, virtually no one would have been able to deal with him in the 1940s. He would have fucked you up every which way. Great video!
Even in modern times I see Batman just picking up everything practical and leaving the rest from even the most “useless” of styles. Batman in the modern age would be a GSP level or probably better fighter who also has wide array of knowledge in covert warfare and psych scare tactics while being outfitted in some of the most expensive and effective high powered non lethal weaponry on the planet.
Yes, I believe this is so.
@@gnarrcan108 He would definitely need to rely far more on technology in the modern world. I think that the Nolan films did a mostly great job of making Batman believable in the 21st century. And Nolan very intelligently had several characters outside of Bruce Wayne's inner circle figure out that Bruce Wayne is Batman; the hardware that Batman uses in the Nolan films would have to be funded by someone with enormous resources.
Batman is a detective and a fighter. He would study the criminal before fighting them. Also, he never subdues a criminal completely because he always needs to get his information first. No matter what fighting style he employs, he never puts his opponent into shock.
Have u seen The Dark Knight Returns? He crippled ALL the criminals in that movie!😆
Dang that is true. I remember him getting pissed at Jason for putting a criminal into shock.
@@dancooke8811 The Dark Knight Returns batman is not main continuity batman. Old Bruce is much more brutal than regular batman
@@dancooke8811 Prolly cause they didn't have information, he wouldn't do that to the big guy on top
I've been wanting videos like this my whole life
His training is so interesting and I love hearing different people's takes and ideas on it
I have an old dark horse comic with Bruce training by benching 1000lbs and side kicking a fucking tree in half lol
If Batman wants to survive in 2022, he will need the Batman Beyond suit from Batman Arkham Knight. With that, his armor is bulletproof, stabproof, jaw protected, and his elbow and fist covered by metals can easily knock out anyone who stands in his way.
yeah him existing is just impossible
Shoot him in the mouth
Batman’s regular suit is bulletproof
@@2005WH But he has obvious flaws, like a partial helmet.
@@gannielukks1811 his entire face is covered except his mouth and eyes
I think a modern Batman would probably rely a lot more on his gadgets to supplement his martial arts training, as well as using various tactics to tip any fight in his favour before it even begins. Like, luring the criminals into a building full of enclosed spaces that he booby-trapped beforehand. Think Kevin McCallister with access to military-grade equipment
Or using his gadgets as what amounts to special effects, to distract, disorient, and just freak out his enemies
In terms of martial arts, I don't know that much about them, but I think for the most part the martial arts he'd learn would be the same as what you suggested here. Maybe he'd also learn Brazilian ju-jitsu.
Exactly. His armor can give him a major advantage against unarmored criminals. The 127 martial arts styles from the comics is pretty ridiculous though lol.
BRAZILIAN JUJITSU IS VERY MUCH OVERATED! GOOD FOR THE RING BUT NOT THE STREET: LYING DOWN ON THE GROUND AND ROLLING AROUND WHILE GETTING KNIFED WON'T BE TOO GOOD!!!
@@damonking76 Submission techniques would be useful in stealth takedowns, since you are taking your enemies by surprise, and Batman can certainly choke people out in a few seconds or brake their bones
@@damonking76what if you end up on the ground against a stronger opponent
That would take too much time to do regularly
I was also thinking that, without today's medical care and sports medicine and equipment, Batman in the '40s (and presumably through the '50s) would only really be able to do what he does at an effective level for 15-20 years. He would be doing many things that members of modern special operations units do, and generally by the time those guys are in their forties, they have to retire. In reality, especially at that time, Batman would be a figure in Gotham for around a decade, though that's plenty of time for him to complete his mission. But one thing that would be necessary for continuing his mission, if necessary, would be to find a younger guy to take over the Batman mantle and train him up, which would be like the Zorro character -- a succession of Batmans. (Zorro was actually one of the inspirations for Batman.) The Batman Beyond series explored that, and eventually it would be great to see that explored in a live-action adaption!
Awesome believable choices and beautifully edited!
While I agree batman could go farther in the past, I think you overestimate the martial Arts skill of the average thug.
Ikr, most criminals are either trying to make ends meet (like a goon or your average robber) or they are just crazy and find doing bad things fun/interesting (murderer). But not many are going to be an MMA opponent or even seriously took a class. 😂😂
I know I'm late but the lower-class martial arts are pretty much for the thugs while the higher end martial arts are for his more known enemies.
Krav Maga, Kali, Boxing, Taekwondo, Karate (Goju-ryu, Kyokushin, Uechi-ryu, styles that focus on self defense and contact. Or Wado-ryu, which was used to create taiho-jutsu), Muay Thai, Judo and Aikido/Akijujutsu/Hapkido are the main ones that come to my head.
Boxing?
And savate as well
@@handsomesquidward5160 of course. Also wrestling and different forms of it.
Jui jitsu aswell
And wrestling he can RKO people too
This was an amazing and well researched video. Everything that came to mind while watching you addressed shortly after.
I can definitely confirm he's done judo, having done judo for 7 years. I've observed him using multiple throws and pins and the arkham games
Tbh this video is a what if and it's stated that Batman knows every martial art possible
Bruhder no shit sherlock
Something to understand with martial arts is how easy it is to cross over when they don't conflict.
For example I train Judo and one of my coaches is an Olympic level Judo coach. Sometimes we cross train at a BJJ school, and we wear white belts there, him included. He'll submit black belts in BJJ because of how much it crosses over.
Let's take Karate, boxing and Muay Thai. Someone who masters one style of Karate can easily pick up boxing and Muay Thai, or vice versa. Yes there are differences in Karate round kicks and Muay Thai round kicks. I also do Karate, I did Muay Thai from 2002 to 2005. I can easily transition my round kicks from the Muay Thai method to Karate method when I need to.
If someone mastered Karate, Judo, Aikido as an adult, and did boxing and wrestling as a kid/high school, they would easily pick up BJJ, Muay Thai, and what not
Great analysis. I had similar experiences within martial arts judo, Aikido, hapkido, Also Kung fu, Taekwondo and kickboxing the crossover is quite easy
It's my understanding that Aikido doesn't have any resistance training.
If you're Batman or a descendant of Batman then you need resistance training constantly.
You're up against resistance all the time as Batman
Exactly martial are similar to language the more you master one the easier it to learn others that are similar enough.
Did anyone mention Savate, french kickboxing?
While Batman mostly uses his fist, on occasion he has kicked, kneed and used other unorthodox strikes. The writers never credit any fighting style for these attacks, but many of them bare a very striking similarity with techniques from boxe franciase and savate de rue. Considering the era that stories were originally written, it isn’t hard to imagine Bob Kane, Bill Finger, or another writer or artist working on the series being familiar to savate in same way, having either been exposed to it in person, through film, or read about it in a book or article.
It would also make sense for someone like Batman to have trained in it. Not only is it a discipline that would be relatively easy for him to study (just travel to Paris) compared to other less well-known (at the time) kicking martial arts, but also because so many self-defense experts, such as Edward William Barton-Wright, Emile Andre, Jean Joseph Renaud, William E. Fairbarn, and Eric A. Sykes, have all drawn heavily from the French martial art for their own systems. Systems that share many of the same street-fighting features as Batman’s.
But it isn’t just martial artist from the past who saw the advantages of knowing savate. BE’s kickboxing expert Fraser Coffeen offered his own insight in how savate, a martial art rooted in street fighting, could prove useful to a vigilante like Batman:
Savate is an excellent choice for Batman for a number of reasons. To start, savate is one of the few kicking-based martial arts that is contested primarily while wearing shoes. In savate, you strike with the shoe, not with the shin as in other arts. Obviously, Batman needs to keep his boots on during a fight, so using savate is a good choice. This also allows him to pad his boots, making his kicks more effective. The savate chasse lateral high kick was probably Batman’s most used kick.
As a whole, it’s also a very defensive-based style, using a lot of movement to avoid shots while coming back with your own kicks. As Batman tended to face a number of foes at once, this kind of defense was important - even small blows will accumulate when landed with too much frequency, so a style like Muay Thai that generally takes more blows than savate would be detrimental to Batman in a large scale melee.
As Mr. Coffeen explained, savate fits perfectly into Batman’s philosophy of “hitting but not being hit” fighting style. It also allows for Batman to take advantage of his footwear, as we see here in this example, where he throws a kick that bares a very strong resemblance to a “high body” coup de pied from boxe franciase, landing with his booted heel.
Another kick that bares a striking resemblance to one used in savate is demonstrated by Robin, who uses the tip of his shoe to deliver a “belt kick” - while simultaneously throwing a foe.
Now compare Robin’s kick with this illustration taken from this 1896 article “Fighting with Four Fists”, introducing savate to the American readers of McClure’s Magazine.
Of course, the old street-fighting, self-defense aspect of savate du rue didn’t focus solely on the shoe or boot. It also taught one to use of the knees and elbows, and here we have Batman’s sidekick Robin throwing a knee that looks suspiciously like one of those shown in a savate self-defense manuals.
"THE FENCING OF BATMAN
Surprisingly, one of the few martial arts outside of boxing, jiu-jitsu, and wrestling we actually see Batman and Robin training in is fencing. While it might seem ludicrous that a modern (well, modern in 1940) crime-fighter would need to know how to use the foil or sabre, it turns out that in Gotham City it is a rather useful talent. The Golden Age Batman seems to find himself in a duel every couple of months against modern day pirates, gentlemen thieves, or villains like the Cavalier of Crime or the Penguin. While Batman might not be a master swordsman, he is competent enough to hold his own against most foes in a clash of blades.
But even if he wasn’t facing so many sword-wielding criminals, would fencing offer any benefits to an urban vigilante? Bruce Wayne himself thinks so, telling Robin that “…fencing teaches you quickness and movement…”
Our own TP Grant, a fencer himself, further informs us how it would aid Batman in facing off against armed opponents:
“…weapon combat is very different from unarmed combat, so getting a feel for that distance is important. Precise footwork and manipulation of said distance is also a fundamental element of that sport. A fencer develops a sense of timing for when to close or open distance, and an explosive burst with which to do it. Good compliment to any striking training as it helps develop good, straight punches. And for any weapon defense training it teaches the ability to move quickly away from wild slashes with a knife or swings of a club and then leap in to grab in between swings.”
That someone like Batman, who would want to make it a priority to never to be struck because of the potential fatal consequences but to also always exploit an opening to deliver his own coup de grace, would study a sport that stresses such important principles should come as no surprise. When facing off against criminals armed with knives or cudgels, let alone swords, Batman would find that the skills developed in fencing to be very beneficial in his line of work.
Batman wasn’t alone in this thinking, for another Bruce, this one with the last name Lee, also saw the advantages of certain fencing techniques, having learned about them through his fencing brother, Peter. Bruce Lee appears to have incorporated many concepts from the sport into own martial art philosophy/style of Jeet Kune Do, including the stance and the principle of the “Stop-Thrust”, which Lee calls “Stop-Kick.” Fencing also stressed efficiency as well as control over distance, timing and rhythm, all things that both Bruces would find useful in a fight.
It should be noted that foil, epee and sabre were not the only weapons that Bruce Wayne and his ward studied. A passing comment to Dick Grayson, also in Batman #4, is that “in our business, it helps to know the use of all weapons.” This hints that Batman and Robin have familiarized themselves with many other hand-held or even thrown weapons, and while we can only guess which ones I think it would be safe to assume that knife, stick, cane, quarterstaff, baton, cudgel would all be on the list (along with, of course, thrown weapons such as the boomerang)."
Savage is very underrated.
Boxing taekwondo karate and judo are the main styles that batman always uses, compined with bodybuilding calisthenics and gymnastics, also while traveling abroad he learned many secret fighting styles that gave him an extra edge.
You can bet wrestling would have been his strongest skill
Bodybuilding? lol
@@kullenberg I mean if we talking about arkham batman then that dude definitely does bodybuilding..... yet moves like a ballerina. Also gorodn ryan, who is arguably the best bjj practitioner in the world right now has a heavy bodybuilding workout routine. Muscle mass is defintiely helpful
@@MilkANDMagicbody building isn't useful, it's aesthetic in purpose. Powerlifting and especially cardio training would be far more useful to him than bodybuilding.
My “head canon-Batman” dawned the cape and cowl at the age of 25, left Gotham to travel the world for 12 years, at age 13, and witnessed the murder of his parents at age 8. This gives him 17 years of training both his mind and his body with the best of the best, rather than just 12
I can see him having studied ( if in more modern days) Boxing,Catch wrestling, and Bruce Tegner's Jukado ( which is based on Japanese Judo/Jujitsu, Karate, and Aikido along with stick fighting and improvised weapons),and savate
I study martial arts. Have for over 10 years. Having done many styles, from karate to mma, traditional Japanese jujutsu, bjj, judo muay Thai and boxing. I am also a massive fan of batman. Historical timeframe aside. If batman were alive now training I think his first style would have actuality been wrestling. Its prominent in american schools and I agree with you on gymnastics for strength training. Second would have been boxing for sure. Not only is it said so in the comics, but boxing is super important for learning to realistically fight in the pocket and learn good defense. For his boxing style I would say it would be peekaboo style. Mike Tyson's style. Its super defensive and super aggressive while looking very menacing stalking down his opponents while also being super elusive with head movement to avoid punches. While I agree with you on karate based on comics, I feel like muay Thai would have been the better option and muay boran (boran for headbutts) as they are without a doubt incredible striking styles and the preferred striking style for mma, including elbows, knees, kicks and clinch work with foot sweeps (which are super energy efficient ways of taking people down). Karate has no clinch work and does not have elbows and knee strikes on the same level as muay Thai. As or Japanese jujutsu again for that time period and even based on the comics I completely agree. As it has an emphasis on self defense in regards to joint locks and has all the judo throws and submissions in traditional jujitsu in their traditional form. Batman would have also learnt weapons from traditional jujitsu as it teaches the katana, Jo staff, batton and weapon defenses. I don't believe he would have done aikido though as the only thing it offers of any value really is joint locks, bit all of which are already in traditional Japanese jujutsu as that's where aikido like judo came from. He would not have bothered and I believe having done boxing and wrestling he would have seen through the lack of realisim. So that being said, modern batman would have gone to Brazil and trained in bjj instead. And would have picked up his weapons training from traditional Krabi Krabong instead when in Thailand. As for ninjitsu I agree with you again in regards to comic book accuracy/fantasy. However for realism and modern day I would say batman instead learnt fight tactics from special opps solider/marine. Someone versed in shock and awe battlefield tactics like infiltrate at night and take by surprise using gas grenades and flash bangs. He also would have trained the Robbins and bat girl these tactics to fight like a unit in the us army. But good analysis otherwise. You have the most comic book accurate version of his fighting skills while being realistic that I have seen that match my own thoughts. But having trained in all the above styles I would say a modern day version would be the ones I mentioned. You clearly have a decent understanding if martial arts though.
But have you mastered them that's the question
Quality not quantity
@@hmt-0764 didn't need to master them all. I worked out which ones are sh**, and which ones are worth doing through trial and error. I settled on muay thai, no-gi bjj, judo and boxing. what you will find at most mma clubs today. pro fighters don't have black belts and don't know all the moves in bjj to be able to effectively fight for real. a person can train for belts or train for fights. the person who trains to fight will always come out on top. that's why those styles in particular work.
@@kenichi1132 I like that train for fights not for belts
@@kenichi1132 it really depends on how much years you want to train and learn how to fight like him. For example in 5 years you can learn like 4-7 different martial arts like : boxing, muay Thai, judo, kali, keysi(known as batman martial arts), wrestling, ninjustu and jujitsu (not bjj) batman never fights on the ground so that's useless
"Master of 121 martial art styles" Comic writers only wrote things like this probably because it sounds more impressive and fantastical for children reading the comics. Realistically, being a master of 121 martial arts would not only be impractical, but useless as well, since a lot of those martial arts have similar techniques with slightly differences that wound be redundant between each other. He would definitely have his base as a boxer and wrestler and would study several techniques from other styles to add to his arsenal. Mastering 127 styles for the sake of it would be completely useless to his purpose of an efficient crime fighter, so I'm firm believer that he would have a philosophy similar to Bruce Lee that's "retain what's useful and discard what's useless".
For somebody who is trying to master as many martial arts as possible, boxing and wrestling are great picks. They are hyper focused on single forms of practice that mastering them is far faster than other more complex martial arts
Imo as a fighter myself I think the wonder of mastering 127 arts is not that its 127 different arts, it's simply that you have 127 different levels of experince in combat. Less about how much you know, and more about making sure you never don't know anything. It's a concept fighters use irl, learn alot of techniques so your never taken off guard. Though mastery of said techniques like you said would be bullshit, in 12 years atleast. There are like 400 styles of kungfu, people have mastered all 400, it's possible but Bruce would literally need a time machine, or you'd have to day that he didn't really stop his martial arts training untill coming back.
Now, your landscape makes an interesting setting, the 40s and 50s. We have to note that martial arts is very primitive these days, VERY. Batman is literally fighting on a wavelength 30 or 40 years ahead of his time.
If we squeeze every bit if realism out of this that we can, imo the most realistic path would been boxing and wrestling as a kid, and then he would've also competed in muay thai, karate, kickboxing, sambo, lethwei. Bruce would spend most of his time in East Asia and Brazil, as they were the fight capitols of the world at that time. Jujistu, atleast brazillian jujistu to my knowledge wasn't invented yet, so while in the east he'd learn a combination between classical jujisu, judo, ninjustu, probably a swordftighing art like kendo, a stick fighting art like escrima or kali, and I would not be surprised if Bruce simply studied other martial arts inbetween doing these, irl what most fighters do is compete in one sport and then they can study another one in the background and get good at it. Same applies here, Bruce would be just competing in muay thai, kickboxing and judo but also most likley studying a balloon other arts in his spare time, pulling only what's useful from them, and what he can use irl.
In the end, I think Bruce's fighting style would be a mix of Boxing, Muay thai, Judo, Classical jujistu, Eastern stick fighting and swordfighting, wrestling, and FRAGMENTS of other martial arts that are useful.
Now I also wanna say that batman would probably have a severe amount of combat training not focused on martial arts, such as ninjustu survival training, he would most likley go through grueling test by many masters testing him on combat skills falling outside of martial arts.
This is important because I keep having to remind people that a 200lb man is and always will be a 200lbs man, it doesn't not matter what he practices, if he hits something it break and that's tru for the NORMAL person. Imagine how that applies to Batman. keep that in mind.
Realistically if saenchai had the intelligence of the smartest man on the world, he would be batman. Look him up.
I believe he would have learned catch, catch can (the origin of free style wrestling which also contributed to BJJ) and Judo where BJJ gets it's technique the Kimura or hat wrestling calls a chicken wing, there was also William E. Fairbrand's Defendu and Bartitsu that was popularized by the Sherlock Holmes. Both of which were historically old school MMA. But to deal with multiple combatants he would also need a martial art like Baughauzan, popularized by the airbenders in ATLA, and Kali/Escrima and or Silate, as well as elements of wingchun/trap boxing
This was well thought out and intelligently explained. Well done.
I subbed a few weeks ago when I went through your back catalogue of Predator videos and now see you are covering the Bat as well 😊 you have made me happy sir!
If he went to the Kodokan back then he could have had Judo and Aikido under one roof. Kano also tried to get Funakoshi to teak Karate there.
I don't think he would have bothered with Aikido, as the 'attacks' are nowhere near reality.
Boxing, Wrestling, Judo would be a very good base. Adding some JJJ and Karate (the way it was taught back then) would be good to add to the mix.
Basically, he was like Geoff Thompson but with gadgets :)
Side note; him not being Japanese would not have been a barrier to training once the people found out he was a billionaire.
A good summary; you do well keeping in in the 1920s-30s time frame. A few thoughts; while I too think Bruce would have spent most of his training time in Asia, Japan specifically, I think a school or _ryu_ which did _Bujutsu_ in general would have been more functioonal; this would give him proficiency in striking, grappling, locks and weapon arts. As both a karateka and aikidoka, I think Bruce would've sought the more pragmatic (re: combat applicable) arts, so not the codified _Shotokan,_ but possibly _Goju,_ and *most* likely old school, BRUTAL Okinawan _Shuri Te_ (he alluded to this in the _Mask of the Phantasm_ film). Also, by this point, Morihei Ushiba Sensei's style of Aikido was moving away from field combat application, so I think _Aikijutsu_ which incorporates more strikes and throws would have been better. Given his size, strength the the high secrecy of it at that point, finding a teacher of Koga style ninjutsu would have been difficult, but he _may_ have found a teacher willing to initiate him in some Fuma, Fujiwara, or possibly Iga techniques. I als think he likely would have spent time in China and India just to learn their body conditining, meditative, body control and pain mitigation techniques.
Another enjoyable video. Great work my main man.
Much appreciated! Thanks for watching as always.
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Schizofenik hey could you a video on the alpha predator and samurai predator
I think depending on the version of the Batman you can pick 4 to 10 arts.
However I feel Batman would be more of a Western Martial Artist. He would also have some Eastern training.
This is the same man who went to college and chose only to learn that which is practical, batman had 12 years of training to become the batman, he would cut out the fluff to learn thoughs arts which were most practical and efficient, not pretty but effective, to take down the common foe, therefore his arts, IN MY OPINION, were boxing, Muay thai, Wrestling (Dagestan style), Kali, Krav Maga, Jiu jitsu, judo and Tai Chi. Didn't have time to waste and needed to learn those arts most practical, keep in mind, his intellect and physical peak performance would allow a "basic art" like boxing be lethally profficient.
Tai Chi wasn't even used for fighting, it's a form of meditation.
Batman says it in Mask of the Phantasm that his fighting style is Jujitsu.
I think you nailed it.
100+ martial arts is ridiculous.
Mastering 7 -10, as you described, is about right.
Mastering might be pushing it. Mastering 1 and naturally then being able to incorporate and use techniques from many others (high level mma fighters tend to do this) in order to have a fully well rounded combat repertoire
@@bengough6772 yeah it takes like 10-15 years to actually MASTER a fighting style
Remember its just fiction. Realistically, is pretty obvious is an impossible task.
They just need to go ahead and make Batman a metahuman, his feats in the comics are way above human
@@quentinjones6877 exactly
@ 10:36 you said "although my version of bruce wayne would not be able to travel to Brazil to study this relatively new martial art in the 1930s." He could totally train bjj in Brazil. The judoka Mitsuya Maeda was fighting, entertaining and teaching in Brazil by 1914. By the 20s and 30s, gracie jui jitsu was growing along with other names in bjj
Batman would use Karate, Judo, Boxing, and some Wrestling.
Man, you broke that down perfectly. I agree! Well done. Thank you. Cheers!
Great presentation. I would also add that as he gets older, he would ad more to his his arsenal. Many disciplines share similar principles of fighting and yet unique in applications. Being a crime fighter, some things are learned on the fly that would take Self mastery and trial-by-combat with a little guidance.
"Try to remember some of the basics of CQC."
All in all, a very informational video. Thank you.
Batman today would learn mma , krav maga , with a little kali,wing hybrid .
Excellent analysis. You clearly put a lot of realistic research into this video.
In a modern context I would have him practice MMA blended with Krav Maga with a strong emphasis on body blows & extremity breaks. You'd be surprised how easily someone goes down with a knee to the solar plexus, a hook punch to the liver or a broken wrist on their dominant hand. MMA would be the base style because so many other styles can be incorporated into it. Krav Maga would be the fine tuning element because there are so many techniques that are potentially lethal, but can be dialed back for whatever purpose the user wants.
I would like to see something like this for Wolverine, Black Panther and Captain America.
Those are enhanced meta humans tho, still wouldn’t mind it
Captain would be interesting, considering he uses shield and fists
@@TheBreezle Okay and? Batman isn't realistic either
@@TheBreezle Batman is enhanced too. He’s always on steroids.
@@theultrablackman1654 The only time he’s on steroids is in the storylines where he uses venom. Which was clearly illustrated in the latest Batman movie
Realistically, Batman would very rarely confront an enemy head-on. The threat of them pulling a gun on him would just be too high.
A realistic, 1940's Batman movie would have him mostly ambush criminals and only face them head-to-head in the circumstance where he had no choice, or if he knew the enemy was unarmed, he might face them head on to prove a point.
A wise tactic. Especially for an unarmed ninja.
Great video as always
Batman doesn't use those forearm blades well enough in all his versions. Speaking as a lifelong Martial Artist.
There is a martial art called the keysi fighting method, it was actually used for the dark knight choreography
In the Frank Miller graphic novel Batman: Year One, Bruce Wayne is shown sidekicking a tree in half and shattering bricks with a strike. In a fight, his internal dialogue says, "I don't crack his skull. I don't crush his larynx. I don't break his ribs or punch my hand through his chest." He is also shown doing a front handspring through a window, suggesting gymnastics.
The internal dialogue you speak of in Year One comes from Gordon when he is fighting Flass.
@@kohikan5180 You're right! How did I make that mistake? 😳
I wrote an essay once about all the martial arts you need for unarmed combat, I put Muay Thai, for striking, boxing for better mastery of punches, teakwondo for better kicks, wrestling, bjj, for ground game and grappling, judo for stand up grappling, that should cover everything hand to hand, now for Batman I would add parkour, and any disarming martial art, but those are up for debate, so 7-10 martial arts for Batman realistically, you can do mma to but I’m trying to cover all the best arts for specific things, mma is a jack of all trades master of none sort of thing, but still works
Wrestling in that time period actually hD a plethora of submissions in and of itself. Definitely boxing with Alfred, and as he got older, possibly military hand to hand (Alfred was prior brittish spec forces) always ninjutsu, karate, jujitsu and some weapons training (sword, stick, staff. He did train all the Robins). He would eventually make his own style I think.
I really like this video, and I would prefer to see batman in an older setting instead of modern age, like, seriously we're almost in batman beyond era. Can you make another version of this video including legendary fighters like Bruce lee and IP man.
Edit: also more on what Alfred would have taught him based on his secret service background.
As you said in the video, Bruce would've likely gone to places to study multiple arts at a once.
Assuming he went to the mainland after studying judo/jujitsu in Japan, I think he would've learned both Thai Boxing, and it's sister art of Burmese Boxing aka Lethwei, which is fought bareknuckle and includes headbutts, which I'm pretty sure I've seen Bats dole out.
Even by the 30s Thai boxers already had a notorious reputation for defeating both kung-fu and karate "experts."
He also wants to leave as little of a footprint as possible, so going somewhere way off the grid to practice an obscure but brutally efficient martial art seems like a very "young Bruce Wayne" thing to do.
I do agree Thai boxing is probably the best style at that time and in the modern age however I think the footwork and distance managment of karate like shotokan or goju ryu is important when facing multiple attackers and not to mention kyoukushin karates body condtioning im probably being biased but I can see Mauy thai/Lethwei being more effective with its elbows and uses of the clinch and sweeps
I would say muay boran rather than MuayThai
This was an amazing video. Your passion and knowledge seriously is something to be admired.
I think your proposal of wrestling, boxing, Muay Thai, and BJJ was the most pragmatic.
Love the video and it's realistic application of Batman!!!
I'm curious as to what a similar video breakdown for the Emerald Archer would be? I can't help but think Of the European equivalent of Boxing nd wrestling would be applied, and maybe more unknown Euro-styles like British mixed fighting style, Savate, Pankration, irish stick fighting, or more.
If you want to switch out one of the Japanese styles for Korean Tae-Kwon-Do for its more prominent use of kicks I don't think It'd be a stretch to say that a few years in Seol would be out of the realm of possibility.
I agree with you on it being humanly impossible (even for Wayne) to MASTER 127 martial arts in a lifetime, let alone in 12 years. It makes much more sense that he chose a few, quintessential styles. The only point where I diverge is about the redundancy of mastering Jiu Jitsu/Judo/Aikido. I believe he would have mastered JUDO (which was created by Jigoro Kano by codifying the tltechniques found in its predecessor, Japanese Jiu Jitsu, and giving it a phylosophical aspect (incorporating the DO to the techniques). Back then, Judo encompassed not only throws and takedowns, but also ground submission techniques found in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu today.
So, I believe he would have mastered:
1. Wrestling
2. Boxing
3. Karate
4. Judo
5. Ninjutsu
On websites, it says he uses boxing, karate, taekwondo, muay thai, judo, jujitsu and ninjutsu in combat
Beautifully done
This is a good video, I enjoyed this one!
For a modern version of Batman (based off of my own martial arts training and “The Batman” movie w/ Robert Pattinson, I think his fighting style would be a more grounded approach. Of course with Ninjutsu being an exception.
I like to imagine that Bruce Wayne would’ve started in Boxing and Brazilian Jiu-jitsu as a kid. By the time he reaches the age of 18 (keeping his photographic memory in mind) Bruce would probably reach brown belt level in BJJ. Once he starts traveling to different countries, Brazil would be Bruce’s first destination to complete his BJJ training.
*Side note, BJJ is not 100% ground fighting. There are standing techniques including throws, joint-locks, takedowns, etc…
After that, the remaining 9 years would’ve been spent in Thailand for Muay Thai (some organizations use a ranking system), Israel for Krav Maga and Japan for Ninjutsu. Again, this is based off of the more grounded style from the new movie and some of my own martial arts background for a more modern version of Batman. Plus, with Bruce Wayne’s photographic memory and his dedication, he would've completed his basic black belt level training in each of these arts about 1 year early.
- Boxing (10 years)
- Brazilian Jiu-jitsu (10 yrs) + (3 yrs in Brazil)
- Muay Thai (3 years)
- Krav Maga (3 years)
- Ninjutsu (3 years)
BJ Penn got a BJJ blackbelt in 3 years. I'm sure Bruce could do the same.
I'm Glad that "the Batman" Showed Batman using Pencak Silat. The Fact that Robert Pattinson Wanted, Learn, and do his Own Fight Scene was just Fun.
Nice vid. But I’d also include weapons training. Fencing, Aikido, Kali, Arnis, Eskrima, and definitely Krav Maga.
Little bonus point. The 1939 Batman wasn't non-lethal. He's seen killing multiple thoughts. Though he had the no killing rule later, he didn't start with it.
There are a few tenets of Ninjutsu that are used by the Bat over his many years of portrayal:
Tanuki-Gakure-no-Jutsu, or the art of the raccoon, stressed the importance of vantage points in high places, taking advantage of the human being’s blind spot being outside of the 45 degree angle, allowing for effective sneak attacks, surveys and escapes. A good portrayal can be during some of the Predator segments in the Arkham games, where you can zip between vantage points to obufuscate your whereabouts to enemies to disorient and eventually take them down non-lethally.
Another one is the bat motif. In history, ninja would sometimes wear masks depicting terrifying animals or demons of myth and folklore, most commonly the Hannya mask from Noh theatre but also extending to other mythical beasts like kitsune or multi-railed foxes. For Batman, creating the image of a night creature stalking every dark corner hunting criminals is this technique.
His use of smoke bombs, grappling hooks, glider capes and a myriad of other gadgets also cinches his Ninpo expertise.
you a bujikan enthusiast or student ?
Great video! Really enjoyed it! I think it would be great if you also made that Punisher video too!
Excellent video. A very common sense approach to how one might train to become an effective fighter in any situation. I really can't find any fault in this analysis except that maybe he wouldn't have mastered more than one or two styles and then learned as much as was practical from the other styles. Most fighters, even if trained several styles, will lead with one style and use the rest as back up skills to the main one. Batman would've probably begun his career leading with Karate/Boxing and backed up those skills with all the others you've mentioned here. I believe he would've continued practicing while he was fighting crime so he would likey have become a master in more styles as time went on. Perhaps by the time he was 50 he would've become a master in all 7 styles which would be necessary as he got older and slower. Fantastic video!
Yeah I think for what he wanted to do Boxing/wrestling/judo “mastered” makes the most sense, with karate and jujutsu added in to fill the gaps and add to his toolkit. And then ninjitsu for all the superhero-ish stuff, because that’s just part of the character. Boxing and wrestling because he’s American and because those are the oldest martial arts anyway, but I put judo up there too because it’s the best at getting someone off you quickly and potentially knocking them out with it’s throw arsenal, which would be essential if he’s fighting multiple opponents. Karate and JuJutsu add a lot too, but he could easily pick and choose from those arts without having to master them. Boxing and wrestling he needs to ‘master’ to really benefit from them, and Judo throws are too difficult to just learn and sprinkle in, you gotta put in years to pull them off on a truly resisting opponent. A kick and a submission can be learned fairly quickly for a high level martial artist, but not upper body throws
Also keep in mind, just because he's returned to the States and started his Crusade as Batman doesn't mean he's stopped training and learning
great video! very plausible deduction. GSP also train in gymnastic, so i think it is totally reasonable for batman to train that too. very crucial
I feel the host of this channel should create a Batman origin story. It would be badass
ted grant, richard dragon, master kirigi and that guy with judo. those were known martial arts teachers from comics
Tenshin Aikido is actually very aggressive form of AIkido its more practical in fights against thugs.
It takes a hobbyist that long to get a bjj black belt. Someone like Batman would only take a couple of years considering his previous wrestling ability as well as having amazing body coordination having done gymnastics.
1930's Japan would mean Judo, Aikido, Kendo, and Sumo.
He would need to travel to Okinawa to learn what would become Karate which was still called 'Chinese Hand' and Would have included Savate and Filipino martial arts. He would want at least two years there leaning from them. From there he would want to head to Fushan province Hong Kong where he would learn many different martial arts. I would thing Xing Yi, BajinQuan and Shui Jiao would be good bets. Then he could head to the southern provinces to study with the Shaolin and learn Hung Gar, White Crane, Wing Chun and Shaolin Northern Fist or Drunken Fist.
This would take a further 3 to 5 years.
From there he could try to learn Chinese catch wrestling and also Escrima, Kali and Capoeria in the Caribbean islands as there were many different cultures intermingling at that time.
This would give him: Gymnastics.
Boxing. (Western and Wing Chun)
Wrestling (Judo, jiu jutsu, Shui Jiao, Aikido and Catch Wrestling).
Taichi Juan, Xing Yi, Hong Gar, White Crain Kung Fu, Savate, and Capoeria, Kali and Escrima as well as Karate and Budo to finish out unarmed and armed combat striking.
He wouldn't be able to master all these but each have things to offer (strength, flexibility, adaptability, endurance, position and posture control, balance fluid and rhythmic fighting and when to break that rhythm and hand trapping,parrying, joint locks, sweeps, single and double leg takedowns and how to defend them and meditation and conditioning training to prepare his body for combat.
Then he could combine these styles together and create his own idiosyncratic method of hand to hand, grappling and weapons combat.
Damn, I forgot Muay Thai! Failure!!!
There is a lot of striking techniques in traditional Japanese Jujitsu, so it would have made sense in the 1930s.
Kung Fu, Wing Chun, wrestling, boxing, Muay Thai, jiu jutsu, fencing, Silat, Savate, karate, judo, just to start.
A good article. However, I have to disagree, A 1920's Bruce Wayne would not go to Japan. He would go to Shanghai. 1920's Shanghai was a international City with a mix of European, American, Japanese,Indian, and Japanese. He would continue learn American and british boxing, french savate, Japanese judo/jiujitsu, indian wrestling, chinese boxing ( Hsing Yi/yi chuan, praying mantis, Mizong). He would also be able to study modern police investigation techniques from the famed Shanghai metropolitan police and deal with it's infamous criminal underworld as well.
Boxing, Karate, Tkd, Filipinomartiarl arts, Aikido, Kungfu. He created his own style.Batstyle
Batman instructor's were either *Professional Killers (Assassins), Master Martial Artist/Fighters, and Grandmaster's of the Martial Art's (well-rounded in multiple forms and all categories of combat including weapons).*
List of a couple styles he learned:
Boxing
Fencing
Wrestling
Judo
Jujutsu
Aikido
Okinawan Karate
Hapkido
Tae Kwon Do
Savate
Capoeira
Krav Maga
Ninjutsu
Togakure ninpo Taijutsu
Togakure Ninpo Ju-taijutsu
Goshin-Jutsu
Koppojutsu
Koshijutsu
Kyusho-jutsu
Kung-Fu
Tai Chi
Lohanquan
Wing Chun
Dragon Style Kung-Fu
Shaolin Kungfu
Wu Dang Kung-Fu
Chi-Na
Dim Mak
Wushu
Sanda
Tantui
Kali
Yaw Yan
Silat
Gatka
Kalaripayuttu
Valamai Kilari
In modern era? Batman had the money, networking, and connection's to sought out whom he wanted base on reputation alone. Either they were well-known or has a notorious reputation, Bruce Wayne wanted the best.
I did my research on Batman! He has a total of 21 CQC instructors. So, Batman mastering a 127 different *Martial Art's* alone is a definite possibility.
It's a definite possibility that one man can master over a 127 different martial arts. Research Batman methods on REM sleeping that he learn from Shihan Masasutsa, it's psychological methods that tricks the mind into making 1 hrs of sleep into a full 8hrs of rest. It also, improves your mental reception and recall. Batman use this method a lot too improve a lot of learned skills. Arcourse, it's takes lots of training to improve this method.
From a grounded approach? If Batman wanted to learn and improve his overall fighting skills? It would definitely been *NINJUTSU?* In the comics, he had 8 ninjutsu master's skilled in different method's of combat. 2 where professional killer's, next 6 were well known grandmasters. Plus, his training regiment alone was base on mastering multiple martial arts styles, weapons uses, assassination methods, pressure points striking, key master blows, psychological and strategic method's, meditation techniques for stronger reception and total focus.
Yes? It would be an impossibility too master what Batman did. Unless you're hungry and obsess with perfection. It could happen depending on the individual resolve.
It would still be impossible to master all those martial arts, this video is about his idea for Batman which takes a more grounded approach.
@@eagle162 Impossibility depends on the individual. Shaolin monks alone are well-mastered in 72 different fighting styles.
Batman more grounded approach would've been ninjutsu. In the comics, he had 8 ninjutsu master's, 2 where professional killer's, next 6 where respected grandmasters. After all, *NINJUTSU* is base on 21 different categories of warfare training. And no? Its not a style (Way of Thinking), it's base on warfare tactics and categorical skill's of survival. Between his karate training and grappling training? It would be useless to pick it up from a local dojo (in Japan) when he learned a complete system of combat from a grandmaster.
Batman wasn't seeking a black belt, he wanted total training that bypasses belt ranks and certificates. He wanted actual professionals teaching him how to fight. Plus, before becoming Batman, Bruce Wayne use his money to attain certain connections he needed to complete his goals. And the best professionals (overall terms) he can find and train him.
@@Dragonflyjones67 Shaolin Monks are not that at all and what people known as Shaolin Monks it's just a tourist trap they're just glorified stage performers, actually there was no shaolin monks at the temple since it had been abandoned
until the movie Shaolin Temple with Jet Li became popular before There was no Monks at the temple, it doesn't matter the individual it would still be impossible for a human to do that no matter the IQ or professional a person is learning from it is impossible to master all of that,hack you can look up to see if Batman would be possible on Google it ain't.
Where did you learn about ninjutsu anyway, just out of curiosity.
@@eagle162 How did I learn about Ninjutsu????:
Jininichi Kawakami
Shoto Tanemura
Masasaaki Hatsumi
Stephen Hayes
Ronald Duncan
There's nothing fake about the shaolin monk's at all. Especially when you got people prolonging the art till this day.
Speaking of styles? Is it a possibility for one person to master 20 style's out of the 1000x martial arts in the world today? A lot of fighting system's has a curriculum of styles and method's that goes along with it. Bokator itself has a catalog of 10,000 techniques including weapon's system's that goes along with the art. Is it a possibility to master all of those techniques? Cheng Style Bahuazhang has a total of 12 animal styles, including Xing Yi. Is it a possibility too master those animals styles (weapon's styles also)? Okinawan Karate teaches striking method's, pressure points, tegumi grappling, and kobudo. Is it a possibility too master these as well?
It depends on the level of dedication you put in.
Unless you have a high *Obsession* for learning? You'll never learn nothing new at all. Between the 10&20yrs Batman learned throughout his travels on and off? How much information did he obtained? Batman develop different learning method's for himself. And has *SYNESTHESIA!* and a eidetic memory to recall everything that he learn. Plus, he speaks 10 languages!!! A highly dedicated person can get thing's done.
@@Dragonflyjones67 yes they are fake Shaolin Monks are just glorified stage performers they don't learn real martial arts and they are not real martial artist look up Jet Li's interview on Shaolin Temple there were no Monks at the time he start filming, no it is not possible for anybody to master 20 martial arts practitioners of martial arts who named will even tell you that, that is only possible in fiction.
I totally agree, but i think he would first go to the army so he’s has basic understanding of strategies and understanding how weapons work and how we can disable them.
Wrestling and boxing sure would be the baseline but Alfred's tutelage may lead to DEFENDU considering the his life before buttler. Also, this was in a time where JUDO & Jiu-Jitsu where twin brothers and intersected deeply.
yet the main benefit of going to Nihon wouldn't be martial arts, but shinobi trainning... Considering he had a baseline of survival and defendu it would be quite feasible for him to grasp the art of survival, spycraft and gadget use.
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I like where you're going with this video.
Judo and Karate would definitely be something he'd learn in the 30s Japan. From boxing and wresting to judo and karate, he'd be a bad man.
I still got 5 minutes left of the video.
Bushido and ninjitsu have been a part of who he is, for as long as I can remember.
I don't see him just learning multiple styles available at a school, but targeting a school for the styles he needs I do see him doing.
I believe batman fighting style is like a linguistic!
I'd give him 6, from the 30s. I'd stick with Japan as well, because ninjitsu is essential to him.
Boxing, wrestling, judo, and karate makes him ufc status.
Bushido for weapons and defense against them, ninjitsu for stealth.
If he masters judo, there isn't much point to Jiu Jitsu or Aikido.
Also considering the history of Karate, I'd suspect he'd be more focused on learning that in Okinawa where it originated and hadn't been changed to meet Japanese ideals of self perfection. There he could also learn Karate's weapons (before they were taken out of Karate and became it's own martial art, Kobudo).
Though I agree, mastering Judo I think would give him enough of an edge to not need Jiu jitsu or Aikido (or more realistically at that time, Akijutsu).
Im not sure if this existed at the time but he definitely would've trained krav maga. He not only would be able to disarm opponents but also have knowledge on how armed weapons are used in order to immobilize his opponents better.
i think submissions were still legal in the 1920s wrestling
Great take on what fighting styles would study. well done.
I think a modern Bruce Wayne let’s say he’s 30 in 2022 and his parents died at 9 so 2001 would be very similar to what’s stated in this with his main emphasis being on gymnastics, (Olympic)weightlifting, boxing and wrestling. Bruce is also a very advanced student so he’d likely finish high school very early at around 15 or 16 at the very latest and by 2008 a 16 year old Bruce would be able to hire private trainers for things like Muay Thai, Karate, Judo, BJJ etc. along with as well as private schooling and tutors in chemistry forensics coding engineering criminology languages etc especially with the internet audiobooks and TH-cam along with a photographic memory and a butler allowing him nothing but free time he could teach himself how to throw knives make smoke Bombs sleight of hand disguise etc at a very young age. an 18 year old Bruce at that point would easily be able to be a traveling student for around 6 years learning and/or sharpening various skills and martial arts and would be likely already have multiple unofficial doctorates or PhDs by 24 he would already be very adept in most things he would need to be Batman. Atp I believe this is when Bruce would spend 6 years mastering that ninjitsu ie his mental and spiritual strength and stealth skills etc (possibly league of assassins or something like that) by that time a 30 year old Batman would be very high level in pretty much all the main MMA martial arts a high level gymnast and weightlifter as he’s been training now for 20 years. Gotham isn’t a well known city and there’s plenty billionaires in 2022 along with the likelihood that Bruce likely lied to manipulated and disguised himself with the majority of his teachers they wouldn’t know who he his that along with his playboy persona with how easily people are deceived and convinced these days he likely wouldn’t be figured out by the majority of Gotham besides people who were really paying attention (Tim Drake)
That was a rant lol
A big problem when 'mastering' so many different martial arts goes beyond the sheer amount of information/skills to learn (even though that alone would make it impossible). Different martial arts have different ways of doing things, and a lot of them contradict eachother. Most boxers would teach you to pivot the lead foot when doing a lead hook. Most kickboxers would tell you not to do that.
love the concept of your vid. Plus the concept based in a bit of reality of the fighting arts, but you missed one thing. When it comes to the Japanese arts Post Olympic Judo would have given him a base making perfecting Jiu Justsu more about blending the distance between Boxing and wrestling. Ninjutsu would merely be learning the concepts of espionage and how to use propaganda of the Batman against the underworld. I think twelve year is spent mastering one style with with supplements from others. But more important is the learning of strategies and investigation. He is still obsessed with justice so bringing criminals to bare before the criminal system is his goal. A true Batman wouldn't fight as much as we think. This where his Ninja concepts and gymnastics would allow him to get in get the evidence and overtly pass it on to the GPD, subduing only who he needs to. Rumor of beating an entire gang would be stories he'd spread him self, even planting evidence that would make it appear that he had super powers. Sticking a Bat- erang in the end of a barrel of a gun of a guard after being choke out from behind would add to it. After all a gangster would be above lying about how he got beat if there was evidence to support it.
It was established in print that golden age Batman (1940s) was trained in Boxing and jiu-jitsu
Wrestling, Muay Thai, TKD, Kyokushin Karate, Boxing, Judo, BJJ, and Sambo I would believe he would realistically master
I think Batman realistically would probably learn catch wrestling as it’s the original form of wrestling which was then made more safe to go to college wrestling and he probably would’ve heard of how judo players were constantly losing against the catch wrestlers from England so he probably would’ve went to England to further learn catch wrestling after finding out what they could do to the judo players
If you take the early comics up until the introduction of Robin, the martial arts that he generally uses were boxing and jiu jitsu(although to me it was more like judo). So he may have learnt boxing in USA and studied jiu jitsu from Japan.
I enjoy your video however
In real life Samurai where known to go on a journey for instruction from teachers from other Ryu-ha the practice was known as Musha Shugyo.
Kano had studied multiple styles of Jujutsu mainly Kito Ryu and Tenjin Shinyo Ryu.
Also Catch Wrestling was a very rough style of grappling. It included all maner of Takedowns and Submissions.
Also I Forgot to mention that there are apparently Ko-Ryu that teach shinobi Related/Esque aspects for example: Araki Ryu has devious arresting and weapon's tactics.
Katori Shinto Ryu teaches how to counter shinobi tactics as well as going over strategy and tactics.
Tatsumi Ryu has scouting and teaches strategy and tactics.
Yagyu Shinkage Ryu (allegedly) has connections to Shinobi Skill's.
Sekiguchi Ryu and Mubyoshi Ryu has teachings for revenge.
True but true. Mostly commised to one school because one school part of empire
Striking arts: Boxing, Muay Thai, kyokushin karate, uechi-ryu karate, Dutch kickboxing, savate, taekwondo, wing chun
Grappling arts: Judo, JiuJitsu, Catch Wrestling, Freestyle/Greco Roman wrestling, Russian Sambo, Shuai Jiao
Hybrid arts: Combat Sambo, Kudo karate, Sanda, Lethwei, MMA, Israeli Krav Maga
He's wearing a utility belt, cape, and helmet with a mask. Why would he role on the ground, when dealing with criminals, who gather guns and knifes. Karate, Judo, Kubudo, Boxing, Wrestling, Gymnastics, Savate, 5 Ancestor Fist Kung Fu, Ninjutsu, and Fencing/Kenjitsu.
There has been people obtain a Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt in 7 years just depends on the student and how much time they dedicate to it
Ok so back then, I think it’s some form of Okinawan karate, A police system of Japanese jujitsu, judo, of course ninjitsu, Brazilian jujitsu
boxing, Sambo, wresting, Muay Thai, kung fu, Kali, he would also have developed his own system over that time.
He would’ve also met someone who practices a extremely effective combat system that no one has ever heard of by some superkiller Weapons master. Also he would have learned A Japanese sword system, and a European sword fighting system as well.
This is an epic video and realistic take on his skills. Japan was essentially a mecca of effective martial arts in the early 20th century.
This is a great video and I can agree with a great number of the statements made here. Really my only differing thoughts revolve mostly around the number of styles Batman would more realistically master. I think he would've pretty much have mastered Wrestling and Boxing, these being the two styles he utilizes the most when applicable. For example, I tend to fall back on my grappling experience from Judo instinctively more than I do my striking from Taekwondo.
I also tend to instinctively add in a small amount of Combat Hapkido but I disregard Wing Chun and Yang Taijiquan moves entirely. In a similar vein, Batman would likely utilize his Wrestling and Boxing more instinctively than his others, apart from the Ninjutsu since he uses those skills so often. (Although I don't see the martial arts side of Ninjutsu as traditional Ninjutsu per say considering Shinobi trained and utilized skills that were used for spy work more than anything, but that's another argument altogether.)
As for his skills with Karate, Japanese Jujutsu, Judo, and Aikido goes, I think he would be proficient in various aspects of these arts but not having necessarily mastered them all in full. I could see him mastering the basics of each of these styles, but with varying degrees of skill in others. For example, I could see him using a lot of Karate style kicks but likely not using much in the way of the punches, but also being skilled in a couple of takedowns (depending on the specific style/method) and also some elbow and/or knee strikes and open handed strikes.
As for Aikido, I could see him emphasizing the joint locking techniques. (wrist locks and such.) I also think he would do well with mid-level Judo moves under his belt, likely being a brown belt or first degree black belt at best, which is still nothing to sneeze at. Of the Japanese martial arts listed, I think he would likely be the most focused on and use Japanese Jujutsu the most. Overall, I could see him being an excellent Ninjutsu practitioner in regards to stealth,
An expert Wrestler and Boxer (his most utilized methods in a pinch), First degree in Aikido and Karate, brown or first degree black belt in Judo, and third or maybe fourth degree in Japanese Jujutsu. If I were to add in some arts that would benefit him in the modern day in addition to what has been covered in this video,
I think Batman would also benefit from extensive Muay Thai and Kali/Escrima/Arnis training. He would then be able to use a wider variety of kicks (from both Karate and Muay Thai) and also gain the extra elbow, knee, and distinct shin kicks from Muay Thai mixed in with his kicks found in Karate. As for Kali/Escrima/Arnis he would gain an advantage by knowing how to disarm commonly used street weapons like knives and sticks while also benefiting from the empty-handed methods as well.
Glad I wasn't the only person thinking Muy Thai would be an addition most likely added to his repertoire.
Here' s what I think Batman use:
1. Boxing (Base footwork, weaving and punching, as well as guarding with those forearm spikes)
2. Taekwondo (The complete traditional kind)
3. Kali (The only weapon-based martial arts you need. Also has a different kind of footwork than boxing and taekwondo)
4. Sambo (Standing grappling)
5. Muay Thai (Knees and elbows, and clinches, as well as lower body defense)
6. Brazillian Jiu Jitsu (Ground grappling, and sweeps)
7. Traditional Karate (Footwork, a different but still effective approach to striking)
8. Bujinkan (Ninjutsu and Bushido, basically the art of Ninjas and Samurais)
9. Capoeira (It was invented to fight while running, so I think it's perfect for chasing criminals, but I can't imagine Batman doing the stance)
10. Jeet Kun Do (Lateral footwork)
Mix these all together and that's what I think Batman fight system would look like.
Highly bullet proofed costume would come in handy too but being Batman I guess that's already in the checklist.