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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ก.ค. 2021
- So... I decided to play around with 72 FPS. I do NOT recommend it. It took about 8 hours of my life, which I wasted making this. I also do not recommend AI interpolation. That makes the animation look funny and not good.
I also got inspired by Mayde's video about 48FPS.
Here it is: • 48fps animation
#animation
#art
#HFRanimation - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
Inspired by:
th-cam.com/video/c4ZsqBWTOAw/w-d-xo.html
Also this is handdrawn, not by AI.
Though I admire the work ethic and dedication you must've had to finish this, I feel like there are a number of areas where you could maximize the effectiveness of each frame. When there isn't any follow-through, overlap, natural timing, or anticipation to the character's movements, you can hardly notice the increased frame-rate. I'd suggest drawing your arcs on a separate layer, marking your timing along that line, and animating on top of it to really get the fluid effect you want. (Also, make sure your video is uploaded at the fps you want. Just from one animator to another.)
I think youtube only goes up to 60FPS, so maybe this isn't the best platform to post it in
as for the other points, I am incapable of adding those elements. Keep in mind that I've only been animating for a year or 2 and haven't dived deep into arcs fully. I will try a few extra exercises, but if you look at the actual frames frame by frame, you'll notice they're extraordinarily inconsistent and change sizes on a whim. This is why I haven't added many of those elements yet
great critique though!
@@Xenderman Don't worry. I also thought arcs seemed really complicated, but they're actually quite simple once you start. You just draw a line, put dots on it, and draw your character over top. The rest about spacing, timing, and momentum you can feel out through practice. It's only intimidating at first.
Keep it up!
Woaossss Oh shit I wish I had such good reviews too
So nice Bro C:
quick criticism, to convey a higher fps and make it seem as if its actually 72 fps, make sure to add a lot more movement, including the faces and body. with smooth movement, you can see how smooth 72 fps can actually be
well, I don't have the skillset to pull that off yet. If you look at some of my other animations, you'll notice a lack of consistency in drawing. This criticism acts more of a wake-up call to my inability to animate movement rather than a criticism on a single piece.
Honestly, thank you for critiquing it in this way. This helps me far more than you realize
I got confused when he didnt say AAAAAAAAAAAA at the end
that'd be plagiarism
Since youtube doesn't support 72fps, there's a little hack to upload a 72fps video to youtube.
Make it so when you put it on 1.2x speed, the animation is 72fps. the slowed down version is 60 fps.
so slow the animation down so that it's .75 speed, then tell everyone at the beginning to put it at 1.25x speed? Thanks for the feedback! I'll probably never animate in 60/72FPS again but if i do ill consider what you said
@@Xenderman
P.S. You need a browser extension to speed up to 1.2x, as it's not 1.25x. Also, slowing it down to 0.75x makes it so you have to speed it up 1.5x.
Not gonna lie this is super trippy
true! real!
We're all in this together 🪦🤝🪦
Oh my god you actually did it
Yeah I did. Sanity level: -0
nice work, but what do you think about trying shorter exposure lengths for the lip sync?
actually, nevermind, that sounds a bit soul crushing
good job
Aren´t we all buddy?
We are all going to die anyways
animating in 72 FPS just makes your demise that much quicker
@@Xenderman maybe when you die it´s just your life´s FPS crashing hard
@@fried_onions_ probably
in any case I would never recommend animating in 72 frames per second even as a challenge. I did this to myself to epicly troll other animators but I was the one who was truly epicly trolled
@@Xenderman what program did you use to animate? I´m thinking of doing an animation video
@@fried_onions_ I used Krita! I typically use Toonboom Harmony for like half of my animations now, but Toonboom (thank goodness) doesn't go above 30FPS
Technically speaking, you can make 72 fps animation basically a 24 fps one by animating on threes. Same goes for any other factor of 72.
Correct, but the character action is entirely on 1's. This means that the character moving is the full 72FPS. Another thing about 24FPS is that animators barely use the actual framerate of 24FPS, and instead opt in to use 2's and 3's in animation, meaning the average framerate in a disney movie is around 8-12FPS.
@@Xenderman I kind of assumed that. But still, good job.
The universe is collapsing
I can't actually see over 60fps 😅
I can't really see over 30FPS so this looks completely and unnaturally smooth
@@Xenderman nope
@@Xenderman i don't think you can upload 60fps+ vids on TH-cam
@@northwastaken 60 is the limit
You can tell this isn’t AI because one of the huge things it straight up fucking ignores is timing and detailing poses
Only around 42 separately drawn frames. All character actions on 1's
adobe doesn't like it when you do that
It shouldn't, lol. I used krita for this and I would never recommend this lmao
no way somebody who uses krita for animation@@Xenderman
My eyes are broken help
all according to plan, mwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha😈😈😈
its so fast good lird
Yep! A common misconception is that Frames per Second make things smoother. however, the reality is that Frames per Second just make it faster.
Gawd DAMN!!!!!!
Dear god...why did you do this to yourself
no idea
worth it.
no, not really. Animation wasn't supposed to go this high framerate-wise
TH-cam doesn't even display over 60fps
yeah lmao unfortunately you cant see it in its full glory
@@Xenderman Make it so when you speed up a video by 1.2x (need a browser extension for that), then it get's displayed at 72 fps. the slowed down version is 60fps, and when sped up, it's 72fps.
I have a 144hz monitor, which can display 72fps smoothly, as it's half the refresh rate of my monitor.
note: my monitor is actually 165hz, but it will only let me select 144hz for some reason, so that's why I called it a 144hz monitor.
Oh damn
kinda funny how you drew 60 Frames for absolutley no reason beacouse youtube downsamples it to 60. And only if whoever is watching is at 1080p.
TH-cam's limits are sixty fps and I fully admit that. I had no knowledge of that at the time of posting
@@Xenderman you could post a download of the original video, would altso generally help with compression artifacts even though it's not really an issue here.
I N G O I N G T O D I E 😈
AHHHHHH
Honestly, 72 frames looks discomforting...
I prefer the usual 24-30fps.
Maybe I'm not like every gamer that goes "frames go BRRRRRRRR-" and I actually have eyes that can see talent in 24 fps? Who knows...
Videogame framerates and animation framerates are 2 entirely different things. While I get the sentiment that they're called the same thing and by technicality, mean the same thing, they're not. The interactive element in gaming makes the computer have to interpolate it in real time so that the framerate is less noticeable, kinda like keeping the movement at all times. But when you're animating a cartoon, you *shouldn't* keep it at a consistent framerate. Most of the time, animations are animated at 12 and 8 fps, with the occasional 24 for faster movements.
This video doesn't really showcase it well, honestly
@@Jake28 well what would you have preferred? because 72FPS is impossible to do well manually. Whne you see Mayde animate at 60fps, he usually doesnt do it at 60 he usually animates on 3's or 4's there. And this is handdrawn on 1's.
@@Xenderman i will animate a scene on 1s in 72 fps now just to spite you for saying it's impossible
will comment back here when i'm done
@@Jake28 I never said it was impossible. Hell, what you just described WAS this video. It was on 1's. What I said was that it's not practical in the slightest, and it's impossible to utilize an animation well when it's 72fps on ones. Making this was what I consider literal hell. I am never making one of these again. I didn't enjoy making this
is this a mayde reference?
Yea. Got super inspired by mayde's video
its make my head dizy
that is one of the many reasons i will never animate in 72FPS again
Me when its not 60 fps
technically, it is 60FPS. TH-cam does this weird thing where the highest it will go is 60FPS, but this was animated and rendered at the full 72.
72 x 5 = 360 frames for a 5 second video…
Yes, but while this is on 1's, it's only 42 individual drawings. In terms of FPS, the amount of drawings required is significantly lower than the amount of frames
That makes sense seeing as there are frames that are the same. The redundancy in the animation requires less work in needing to redraw every frame seeing as you can duplicate parts of the drawing if not the whole drawing.
@@foxeyestudios7021 The reasons why we hold drawings for multiple frames extends far beyond just saving time and animation. While that *can* be part of it, there are some things that just don't look right at higher framerates, such as slow movements. They more often than not, fail to deliver at higher framerates such as 24FPS. If you hold your frames longer as something decelerates or is slower to begin with, then you can sell the "slowness" of an animation far better than you could with 24FPS on 1's. This is why even The thief and the cobbler isn't true 24FPS, despite being the closest thing to it. You never claimed anything of the sort, but i see others claim that making the framerate lower is "lazy." While you most likely do not think that, I hope i at least got you to think more about how animators utilize framerates in interesting ways rather than just making it easier and faster to make, and I hope you'll start looking for these stylistic and interesting ways animators lowered the framerates in your favorite animated media. Spider-Verse is interesting if you want to look into that a bit.
@@Xenderman Very true. I’m still new to making animations. As much as I hate to admit it, I assumed 60 fps was how it was supposed to go when I started out. I kept getting frustrated with it and nearly felt like giving up. I eventually learned lower frame rates not only save time but actually look better than “smoother” animation after seeing a side-by-side comparison of the same video with different frame rates. Higher frame rates do make an animation smoother, but can make everything still look too static even with movement. The same goes with cinematography, which is where I learned these principles. There are some cases where higher frame rates are better or even necessary, like if you’re trying to slow down a clip or capture fast movement, and it’s not uncommon for a single video to have clips recorded in different fps and converted to one consistent frame rate. As for your recommendation on seeing the Spider-Verse, I have seen the film and I know what you’re trying to point out. Yes, the animation in Spider-Verse is noticeably slower than other animations I’ve seen. That gives it a kind of “flipbook” appearance in the animation which is visually appealing. I appreciate you weren’t quick to assume I meant lower frame rates means “lazy” animation, which was not at all what I meant. I already know first hand how problematic higher frame rates can be. They take forever to make and the final result isn’t always great, therefore throwing all your hard work down the drain. When your character at the end of this video said “I’m going to die”, I assumed that meant you suffered in a similar manner as I did when I tried animation at higher frame rates. Thanks for your insight, I believe I have learned a little bit more about animation, not just the creative process but also the art direction in animation.
No easing?
*Eyebrows raises*
There's quite a bit of it but the framerates so high that you can't see it
@@Xenderman not enough of it then
@@Two_Teapod 72 fps does not operate the same as 24 or 12. Easing is damn-near impossible
@@Xenderman keyframing: 🗿
@@Two_Teapod I dont know what kinda point you're trying to make, but like there was easing, it was there, and keyframing on SEVENTY TWO FRAMES PER SECOND would not have helped much.
hey
hold up doesn't youtube only use 60fps?
Probably. It was animated at 72 though
@@Xenderman oh yeah. sucks that youtube's limit is 60
@@Quiiverr ehh. I find that more to be a blessing. Most animation softwares cap it at 30fps, which is a great move
@@Xenderman It's like as if people shouldn't animate over 30 fps.
*because it's painful to do anymore than 30...*
Bro mans using twos instead of drawing on tens
ermmm ackshually
But TH-cam even at 1080p shows maximum 60 frames per second...
Correct. I did not know this at the time of publication, however.
"Just work harder"
- Said a stupid lazy consumer.
so true
Doesn’t feel more than 4 fps.
I don't really know where that 4FPS metric came in. I will say that youtube only goes up to 60FPS, which might have contributed to some loss. However, 4 frames per second seems a little low, even for a loss.
😂😂😂, why test higher frame rates?
I don't know. It breaks every law on torture I'm sure of it.
uwu
why does it look like that lol
I am not sure if i have an answer to that. It was made in 2021, almost 2 years ago
don't push yourself to hard
Too late. 9 hours no breaks
u sure its 72?
I exported it as 72fps and animated it with 72fps in mind, but youtube caps the FPS at 60.
@@Xenderman oooooo ok
But You Said 72, But Look At The Settings... It Says "60".
It was animated and exported in 72 frames per second, but TH-cam caps it off at 60.
uhh doesn't feel like 72 fps
TH-cam only goes up to 60FPS. The framerate I exported the video at is 72 frames per seconds, with all the major character acting on 1's.
This is 432 frames
I thought it was more like 458- might have to check again to be sure
Upon checking again, it's 380 frames exactly.
Bro mans using tens instead of drawing on twos
I animated the animation on 1's. You have no clue what you're talking about. You may know the definition of the term but you don't understand it. Any animator worth their time will never use the term like you do. Using the term to belittle someone's animation is never used by people who know their stuff. It's barely used in criticism. While 1s, 2s. Etc. Are used, its never to fully criticize animation. It's used to help guide animators. What IS used to criticize animation is the fluidity of the motion. Not smoothness, fluidity. Fluidity is attainable regardless of being on even 5's. James Baxter animated a character on 5s once when interacting with quasi. You may technically know the definition of the term, but you don't understand it.
Tl;dr: animators know when you aren't using their terms right. You may think it makes you look smart, but to people who know better, it does the opposite.
@@Xenderman ik its a joke 🤡
@@ItzTheLoser and im autistic and have a hard time discerning jokes from reality.
@@Xenderman okay
@@ItzTheLoser please leave if you don't have anything constructive to say
Why would be do this to yourself?
do not remember the reason
doesnt really feel like 72 fps
It was animated and rendered in 72fps, but TH-cam's limits are 60fps
The mouth isnt
Why would it be?
@@Xenderman coz its a 72 fps animation
@@cheesey_sharky the mouths on any cartoon are never the amount of fps that they're on. Disney doesn't animate its character actions on 1's, nor does dreamworks typically. If I animated it in 72fps, the mouth would look awful and wouldn't work as lip sync.
@@Xenderman i aint reading, ALL THAT
@@cheesey_sharky it's 3 sentences
the lip synch isnt 😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒
Well do you want me to drop dead? Lip syncing never looks good on ones anyway
lookin weird
So true