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Oracle: Go ahead and attack. If successful, bring big tribute to here to thank the gods. If not successful, then the gods were angry. Bring big tribute here to placate them.
One of the common "services" of the Oracle of Delphi, was also to give advices to each Greek city-state, who wanted to create a new colony. The amazing thing is that the priests of Delphi had indeed a rich archive of geographical knowledge, which allowed them to guide with precision, each expedition to the location that they would build their new city.
"Settle opposite the blind" she said to the founders of Byzantium, since the people of Chalcedon must have been blind to not see the advantages of the Golden Horn across the strait...
Well this legend of the two eagles , one going west and the other east and meeting at the Omphalos , the navel of the world , means that the earth was seen as round by the grecs at that time. That is truly remarquable !
@@sidzifus7083 it’s not that remarkable, it’s pretty common knowledge that as far back as Pythagoras in the 6th Century B.C., they knew that the earth was round. The myth that Magellan or some other explorer from that period ‘discovered’ it is lazy.
@@BeatMonkeyV5 I agree with you , however what is still remarkable is how it took the form of a legend ? The knowledge that the earth was spherical , the perfect form Was shared by philosophers and by simple people like mariners. By what channels or process this knowledge went into such a legend? I guess the priesthood wanted their sanctuary to be center of the world...
I had to do a double take reading your name, having had psuedomonas in my eye in middle school and almost having to have it removed, I've never met anyone other than optometrists who have heard of it let alone someone using it as their handle lol
Pirates. They were pirates. Started as one group from western meditarrean sea, then mixed with bunch of other cultures until they assimilated into the new territories. For example. The various groups of sea people attacked and settled in Canaana, mixed with local canaanites on the coast, and became the philistines. This happened around 1200 BC, and the other countries of canaanites original still havent forgiven them it.
I was there a few weeks ago after visiting Marathon and Thermopylae! Quite hot day to ascend what actually is a mountain side, but still a very powerful experience. It must have been astonishing at the time, considering its size and the extraordinary remains that are still visible there. The temple itself in now merely a large stone foundation but I still lingered there an extra minute pondering the words that were spoken there, "A wooden wall will save Greece", giving Themistocles his grounds for creating a large fleet, which was instrumental in defeating the persians.
@@AlphaCrucis Not only they took them seriously... Some people could probably kill you in those times if you dared to doubt the prediction and say ''hey, boss, maybe let's not invade Persia just because some random laurel-chewing woman said so?''. Not to say that people nowadays are very smart (horoscopes is proof that too many people in our times are quite idiotic, for the lack of a better word), but in those times most people, even kings and generals, would be children compared to us. The only exceptions would be the greatest thinkers like Aristotle, but first of all, they were rare (like one in a million rare), and second of all, even they sometimes said very silly things because they didn't really know how the world worked. They didn't know chemistry, for example, they also didn't know anything about brain physiology. The ''visions'' for them were not what they are, delirious hallucinations, but a ''revelation from gods'', a kind of very powerful magic that only the best of the best possessed.
The most famous and of course ambiguous prophecy was :Ήξεις, αφήξεις ου, εν πολέμω θνήξεις By changing a comma the whole meaning changes. You can read either "you will go , you will return , you will not die in the war" or you will go , you will return not, you will die in the war. Still in Greece when we hear something ambiguous we say "Ήξεις, αφήξεις"
@@thinkingagain5966 Once Alexander secured northern frontier, he turned his attention to Greece. With Thessaly and Attica under his control again, he decided to visit the Oracle. He wanted to hear how he is the best and how he will conquer entire world. However, instead of honoring Oracle properly, he simply walked in at the middle of night and ordered to hear his prophecy. Priestess told him to come tomorow. This enraged Alexander greatly and he pulled her by her hair and dragged her from her bed to the place of prophecy. While he was dragging her, she yelled "You are invincible, my son!". In that moment Alexander said "That's what I wanted to hear.". He immidiately released her hair and left her there on the floor and packed his things for Hellespont.
@@aleksapetrovic6519 I've seen a theory somewhere that the oracle might have been sarcastic with Alexander, as if saying 'you (wish/think you) are invincible', due to his lack of respect and arrogance.
Themistokles when the Persians were about to invade, he sent emissaries to the Oracle of Delphi, to ask them what about to do? The prophecy originally was terrible, it was saying that any kind of resistence was useless, and that the Atheneans should flee to the edges of the world. The brilliant Athenean general and politician when he read the Oracle's "advice" he send again the emissaries demanding (!) a new "prophecy". Only then the Oracle gave the famous "prophecy"about the "wooden walls", that Themistocles "interpretated" them, as being the ships. There is also the suspicion that the scheming Athenean general bribed the Delphi's priests...
Alexander the Great, upon being refused a prophecy from the Oracle at Delphi about his ambition to conquer the world, dragged her out of her adyton by her hair until she exclaimed, "You are invincible, my son!" He then dropped her and left, stating, "Now I have my answer."
Considering the Oracle of Delphi was around for hundreds of years, it’s quite possibly different oracles were affected in different ways at different times in history. That’s why some sources may say she ranted and raved while others said she was calm.
In a BBC documentary they theorized that they had a lid on the chasm so it would build up from the hole, and could be used for some divinations. Practices might have changed also during the times when the ethlyne source was going out. Geologist in the documentary said that the area has veins of asphalt that were source of the ethylene, but earthquakes might have blocked the cracks or the source might have burnt out eventually, so that is why it isn't abundant enough today.
Something for me! I was recently in Delphi (I recommend the video on my channel :P). Amazing story, beautiful site! ❤Thanks for the video about ancient Greece!
Delphi should have set up a concessions stand (Delphi water and goat sandwiches) and a souvenir shop. They would still be in business if they had. Judging from the drawings, replacing the maidens with old women probably hurt business as well. Should have hired some bouncers, big Olympic wrestler types looking to make a few extra drachma.
14:06 "Should I marry Mr. Dimitris if he buys me bubble tea everyday?" Girl, as a bubble tea addict he's basically asking for your hand with every cup he buys 😂
I once read that Croesus had decided that the Oracle of Delphi was the most trustworthy by asking several different oracles the same question: "What is King Croesus of Lydia doing at this moment?" Apparently, the Oracle of Delphi answered something along the lines of, "My nose is filled with strange scents, a turtle boiling in its own shield, a simmering lamb in a cauldron, forged of copper," and that was exactly what Croesus was doing: making a turtle-and-lamb stew in a copper cauldron. No idea if it's true, but it sounds pretty awesome all the same.
I was in a boy's choir as a child that performed all over the world. I was fortunate enough to visit Greece for a month and a half in the summer of 1982. I was 12. Once every 30-40 years the Greeks endure a strange weather pattern in summer. Air flows over the Sahara due north and brings the heat of the desert with it. The hottest day in Athens was 120 degrees F / 48.8C. You got the heat of the Sahara mixed with the humidity of the Mediterranean. This was before the Athens Olympics. The only AC was in the Mercedes Bens cabs and tour buses. Fans in rooms, no AC. Delphi was one of our first stops heading out of Athens. It was still ungodly hot, but not like that big city. Our tour guide kept stopping and turning around in front of the temple remains because she heard something. The cool air from the chasm was interacting with the insanely hot air. You could hear a moaning from the air surging and pulling against each other. Soft enough to make you strain to listen but clearly audible. I have always wondered if the ancients experienced the same phenomena when that weather patter occurred. It's possible when the temple was in use and covered the air couldn't react. But I'd bet the site goes back further than we know.
my favorite delphic prophecy is the one that said socrates is the wisest man in all of athens - of course, the truth being that he was the only athenian who knew of his own ignorance
You'd think the King of Lydia would be skeptic when the Oracle gave him a vague answer about what kingdom would be destroyed between his and Persia but people are only human and humans want to believe that everything will be alright.
Or more commonly, humans tend to look for something to confirm what they already believe. Its why people tend to hang around with people with similar world views and consume information that agrees with their own POV
@@Voo504Doo Conspiracies aren’t pushed aside, and your wording seems to understand it to an extent. Only Conspiracy THEORIES are pushed aside. Once those pushing the theory has removed the theory part by lifting the burden of proof, then it wouldn’t be pushed aside anymore. So yes, conspiracies are all legit, only the theories aren’t.
@@iLLeag7e Assassin Creed Odyssey is such a waste of potential. I never thought before that a studio could make ancient Greece boring and stupid that way (It is almost like OG God of War is poetry)
One of the most fascinating aspects was after the battle of Cannae, the Romans sent Quintus Fabius Pictor to consult the Pythia on how to beat Hannibal.
Also Delphi as one of the most important sacred places of the ancient Greek world and also as the headquarters of the Amphyctionic League, became subject of many fierce civil wars among the Greeks. Not one but five Sacred Wars (!) took place for the controll of Delphi and the Delphic Amphiction among Athens, Sparta, Macedonia, Thebes, Fokis, Aetolian League and the other ancient Greek super powers.
My favorite one will be during the second Medic war when the greek generals inquire the oracle about the war against Xerxes and the oracle spoke:"The war will be won by a great wall of wood": And so the war was won in a giantic naval battle at the gulf of Salamine.
Dear Lord KG Historian Sir, it’s not the amount of hair on thy head rather the copious brain cells in thy skull that gets us ladies’ hearts a-thumping. Or something not as drunk-sounding.
appreciate the good work! Although I have to say as a more Byzantine oriented subscriber, I Love the Byzantine videos and the current series about the post-4th crusade world and I wish they were uploaded more often. Anyways keep up the awesome videos! Cheers!
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I've been a fan of your stuff for years and years. First time commenting. Do you plan to do any Greek mythology stuff? My own reading, Stephen Frys Heroes and Mythos and the game Hades just arent giving me enough of a fix. Also, will you be putting more stuff on Spotify? I've been travelling Australia for 3 years and listening to your stuff as I drive those long endless roads would certainly ease the pain
@@Voo504Doo The word barbarian came from the ancient Greeks of old. Varvaros was the word, meaning (from the sound of foreign languages as.....varvarvar to Greek ears, or kind of weird jiberish) the non Greek speaker or foreigner. Initially and for long it had no much demeaning connotation, just used by Greeks to define non Greeks, but probably from time of Alexander and later Hellenistic times it got a little (to the known today meaning of uncivilized or brute) but that definitely happened with Romans borrowing the term and using it for the Celtic, Germanics and all others they faced and all not united by the civilization of the Empire. Ofc at initial contact also they as non Greeks, were called by then Greeks as barbarians sometimes too....but that quickly changed even before imperial times with Roman prevailing and acquiring Greek culture, although Greeks continued to view themselves -and Romans also saw them in that light by the way-, as the learned and intellectual cultured ones in this relationship, with the Romans (meaning still Romans as defined from latium/italy and their med colonies, cause later and before the official stamp of 212AD all became Romans not only in name but essence, including Greek speakers of Empire, the latter as fate had it would carry the name of state till 15th c AD and also of identity inside Ottoman territories till beginning 20th) copying much from Greeks and admiring Greek language, but returning favor to Greeks by considering them as too theoretical over-philosophizing non practical dudes, LoL. Anyway, a nice anecdote from first and early war engagement of Greeks vs Romans (I guess narrated much later by that so Roman loving Greek Plutarch) when king Pyrrhos of Epirus came to battle Romans at Heraclea 280BC: He took the day before the battle a close aid to go nearby the Roman camp and oversee it from some safe distance. He is said to have uttered to his companion after watching the legionnaires with some alarm "Those barbarians over there do not look very barbarian to me, but we'll see tomorrow what they are worth in battle..."
a famous Pythia's saying is "Ήξεις, αφήξεις ου, εν πολέμω θνήξεις" , or "Ixis , afisis , ou en to polemo thnixis" in latin letters . Which either means "You will depart , you will return back , you will not die in the war" or "You will depart , you will not return back , you will die in the war" , the whole meaning changes by the comma position in the sentence .
That goat offering culture by Greeks is exactly similar to our country Nepal by Hindus.The goats neck is sprayed with water then if the goat shakes its head then its ready for its own sacrifice to god.We offer sacrifice to Goddess Durga during our main festival dashain. Such a weird thing when you think about it how some elements of culture intertwine even though the western and eastern culture are most of the time vastly different
This is very interesting.Since Greeks made kingdoms in the edges of India and Greco-indian culture mixed(first buddha statue as a man was made by Greeks)it could have been past down from them!
It's good to see that some of the Greeks are worshipping their old gods I saw a video on that it was actually pretty good. It's also good to see people going back to their old ways. And by the way I forgot love your videos and content keep up the good work Kings and Generals!!!
@Θ.Σ.Κ.30 who cares... i dont care what people think about me or my beliefs to be 100 homes. If i live in a christian country and some people dont believe in muslim beliefs. And vice versa. If everyone believed in the same God we wouldn't have any wars that hinge on religion. Im the time of Christ people laughed at Christians. So... its all relative to the time u live in. 😆 🤣 just like im lauging in yours vato. Muahahaha
They must have worked or they would not have lasted. Generalities would not work then anymore than now. They may not have had our technology but they were not stupid - probably better minds than ours. Been there, fascinating..
So from the 2 minutes mark we know that the greeks knew that the earth is round, since the eagles flew in opposite directions and met at Delphi. But modern conspiracy theorists wants us to believe thats it’s NASA’s fault.
oracle of Delphi Should I watch kings and generals. Knowledge is always a wise investment. My interpretation is a solid yes.... I was right another great video, as always. 🙂
For those who are accostumed with religions such Candomblé and Umbanda it is very easy to understand. Everynight you can go and talk to priests that have received an entity during a transe state
Bald eagles at 1:58 are anachronistic, they're only native to North America. White-tailed or golden eagles would've been more accurate. Still amazing work on the vid, my dude
Alexander the Great had a special way to deal with the Oracle. The Pythia hesitated to give him a prophecy concerning his war against the Persians because the last oracle given to his father Philip proved to be his death sentence. So when she hesitated too long, Alexander did not accept visiting the oracle in vain. He just dragged the holy Pythia by her hair to the temple so that she could make her prophecy. On the way she cried out: "Let me go. You are indeed invincible, o Youngling!" Alexander stopped and let her go, satisfied with her answer.
Knowing people and how they do is a big step in predicting the future . Even more so , if they had information on a city or countrys history and politics . It's realy easy to predict what they are going to do and with this information you can consult them on a course of action that looks like a divine prediction.
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Great job . I prefer this type of content over the constant battles
make a video on chola navy and tactics and role of merchant guild and its impact on india and south east asia.
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I find it funny that you mention Caesar was self conscious of his thinning hair then get a sponsorship for hair loss prevention
Croesus: Sooo, should I attack Persia or is that a really bad idea?
Oracle: Yes.
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Lmao
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Only because she knew vengeance was promised in the fifth generation.
Oracle: Go ahead and attack. If successful, bring big tribute to here to thank the gods. If not successful, then the gods were angry. Bring big tribute here to placate them.
One of the common "services" of the Oracle of Delphi, was also to give advices to each Greek city-state, who wanted to create a new colony. The amazing thing is that the priests of Delphi had indeed a rich archive of geographical knowledge, which allowed them to guide with precision, each expedition to the location that they would build their new city.
"Settle opposite the blind" she said to the founders of Byzantium, since the people of Chalcedon must have been blind to not see the advantages of the Golden Horn across the strait...
Well this legend of the two eagles , one going west and the other east and meeting at the Omphalos , the navel of the world , means that the earth was seen as round by the grecs
at that time. That is truly remarquable !
@@sidzifus7083 it’s not that remarkable, it’s pretty common knowledge that as far back as Pythagoras in the 6th Century B.C., they knew that the earth was round. The myth that Magellan or some other explorer from that period ‘discovered’ it is lazy.
@@BeatMonkeyV5
I agree with you , however what is still remarkable is how it took the form of a legend ? The knowledge that the earth was spherical , the perfect form
Was shared by philosophers and by simple people like mariners. By what channels or process this knowledge went into such a legend? I guess the priesthood wanted their sanctuary to be center of the world...
I had to do a double take reading your name, having had psuedomonas in my eye in middle school and almost having to have it removed, I've never met anyone other than optometrists who have heard of it let alone someone using it as their handle lol
Oracle:''I am the Oracle. I can answer any question you ask''
Me:''Who's the sea people''
Oracle.''Any question but that''
Oracle: Ooooooooooooooooohhhhhhh.........Who lives in a pinapple under the sea?
A bit late for that, really. By about half a millennium at best
Pirates. They were pirates. Started as one group from western meditarrean sea, then mixed with bunch of other cultures until they assimilated into the new territories.
For example. The various groups of sea people attacked and settled in Canaana, mixed with local canaanites on the coast, and became the philistines. This happened around 1200 BC, and the other countries of canaanites original still havent forgiven them it.
@@sieversen1235 Bruh 🤣
it has to be a yes or no answer
Kings and Generals always comes at the right time glad you made my day.
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Fuck yea hahah I love how they put these videos together
-And always with a new infomercial about hairloss, or grooming products which lasts for about a minute and a halv.
I was there a few weeks ago after visiting Marathon and Thermopylae! Quite hot day to ascend what actually is a mountain side, but still a very powerful experience. It must have been astonishing at the time, considering its size and the extraordinary remains that are still visible there. The temple itself in now merely a large stone foundation but I still lingered there an extra minute pondering the words that were spoken there, "A wooden wall will save Greece", giving Themistocles his grounds for creating a large fleet, which was instrumental in defeating the persians.
So in other terms, the Oracle is basically similar to a horoscope of today: vague.
Magic 8 Ball.
Future cloudy. Try again later.
Like any economist on the news. Chew some laurel leaves. Increase vat.
I wondered if people back then really took these vague prophecies seriously, but then you reminded me of how people today take horoscopes seriously.
similar to the woman of today you mean ;)
@@AlphaCrucis Not only they took them seriously... Some people could probably kill you in those times if you dared to doubt the prediction and say ''hey, boss, maybe let's not invade Persia just because some random laurel-chewing woman said so?''.
Not to say that people nowadays are very smart (horoscopes is proof that too many people in our times are quite idiotic, for the lack of a better word), but in those times most people, even kings and generals, would be children compared to us. The only exceptions would be the greatest thinkers like Aristotle, but first of all, they were rare (like one in a million rare), and second of all, even they sometimes said very silly things because they didn't really know how the world worked.
They didn't know chemistry, for example, they also didn't know anything about brain physiology. The ''visions'' for them were not what they are, delirious hallucinations, but a ''revelation from gods'', a kind of very powerful magic that only the best of the best possessed.
The most famous and of course ambiguous prophecy was :Ήξεις, αφήξεις ου, εν πολέμω θνήξεις
By changing a comma the whole meaning changes. You can read either "you will go , you will return , you will not die in the war" or you will go , you will return not, you will die in the war. Still in Greece when we hear something ambiguous we say "Ήξεις, αφήξεις"
-You are invincible, my son.
-That's all I wanted to hear.
Alexander the Great pulling the priestess by her hair im the middle of night.
Explanation?
@@thinkingagain5966 Once Alexander secured northern frontier, he turned his attention to Greece. With Thessaly and Attica under his control again, he decided to visit the Oracle. He wanted to hear how he is the best and how he will conquer entire world. However, instead of honoring Oracle properly, he simply walked in at the middle of night and ordered to hear his prophecy. Priestess told him to come tomorow. This enraged Alexander greatly and he pulled her by her hair and dragged her from her bed to the place of prophecy. While he was dragging her, she yelled "You are invincible, my son!". In that moment Alexander said "That's what I wanted to hear.". He immidiately released her hair and left her there on the floor and packed his things for Hellespont.
@@kaizokujimbei143 According to Plutarch, it did.
@@aleksapetrovic6519 I've seen a theory somewhere that the oracle might have been sarcastic with Alexander, as if saying 'you (wish/think you) are invincible', due to his lack of respect and arrogance.
@@kaizokujimbei143 how do you think we can answer this question now? Probably not, but it could have happened and it was recorded.
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Stuff like this is so much more interesting than battles to me. Your battle vids are fine too, but this is the stuff that really fascinates me.
It's very much connected too as people would go to oracle to get a blessing to go to war.
Themistokles when the Persians were about to invade, he sent emissaries to the Oracle of Delphi, to ask them what about to do? The prophecy originally was terrible, it was saying that any kind of resistence was useless, and that the Atheneans should flee to the edges of the world. The brilliant Athenean general and politician when he read the Oracle's "advice" he send again the emissaries demanding (!) a new "prophecy". Only then the Oracle gave the famous "prophecy"about the "wooden walls", that Themistocles "interpretated" them, as being the ships. There is also the suspicion that the scheming Athenean general bribed the Delphi's priests...
@Some thing An hypothesis about the first prophecy was, that Xerxes perhaps buy off the priests of Delphi. It was a common tactic back then.
Interesting that nobody here believes in intuition!!!
So fortunate to have had the privilege of visiting Delphi on my holiday in Greece.
Beautiful place isn't it? Nice to get out of the sweltering heat too.
Is the oracle still there?
@@GeorgeEstregan828 what if I tell you that in modern day Greece was a politician nicknamed Pythia out of his strange statements ? 😁
What advice were you given?
@@GeorgeEstregan828 no
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Amazing insight into ancient greece and great video as always! Keep up the great work
Fancy finding you here!
If I wanted to hear a girl high on drugs talk about weird stuff I’d just go to a uni dorm room rather than go all the way to Delphy.
Delphy seems more intresting haha 😆
Alexander the Great, upon being refused a prophecy from the Oracle at Delphi about his ambition to conquer the world, dragged her out of her adyton by her hair until she exclaimed, "You are invincible, my son!" He then dropped her and left, stating, "Now I have my answer."
Delphi was technically the eras dorm rat.
They prob had better psychedelics in the ancient world
Hey don’t make fun of some ones religions
Considering the Oracle of Delphi was around for hundreds of years, it’s quite possibly different oracles were affected in different ways at different times in history. That’s why some sources may say she ranted and raved while others said she was calm.
In a BBC documentary they theorized that they had a lid on the chasm so it would build up from the hole, and could be used for some divinations. Practices might have changed also during the times when the ethlyne source was going out. Geologist in the documentary said that the area has veins of asphalt that were source of the ethylene, but earthquakes might have blocked the cracks or the source might have burnt out eventually, so that is why it isn't abundant enough today.
Something for me! I was recently in Delphi (I recommend the video on my channel :P). Amazing story, beautiful site! ❤Thanks for the video about ancient Greece!
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Delphi is a beautiful area in the hills. One of my favorite days on our trip to Greece.
Delphi should have set up a concessions stand (Delphi water and goat sandwiches) and a souvenir shop. They would still be in business if they had. Judging from the drawings, replacing the maidens with old women probably hurt business as well. Should have hired some bouncers, big Olympic wrestler types looking to make a few extra drachma.
They should have hired bouncers.
Lol are u by chance from the Athena Cabin
Think they didn’t have your entrepreneur spirit back then bruh XD
@@kobiee2x137 LOL only if they need a janitor😊!
imagine selling bath water of the priestess.
More Greek history , thank you !
14:06 "Should I marry Mr. Dimitris if he buys me bubble tea everyday?"
Girl, as a bubble tea addict he's basically asking for your hand with every cup he buys 😂
I once read that Croesus had decided that the Oracle of Delphi was the most trustworthy by asking several different oracles the same question: "What is King Croesus of Lydia doing at this moment?" Apparently, the Oracle of Delphi answered something along the lines of, "My nose is filled with strange scents, a turtle boiling in its own shield, a simmering lamb in a cauldron, forged of copper," and that was exactly what Croesus was doing: making a turtle-and-lamb stew in a copper cauldron.
No idea if it's true, but it sounds pretty awesome all the same.
15:45 The "Seikilos epitaph" plays at the background! 😍
I was in a boy's choir as a child that performed all over the world. I was fortunate enough to visit Greece for a month and a half in the summer of 1982. I was 12. Once every 30-40 years the Greeks endure a strange weather pattern in summer. Air flows over the Sahara due north and brings the heat of the desert with it. The hottest day in Athens was 120 degrees F / 48.8C. You got the heat of the Sahara mixed with the humidity of the Mediterranean. This was before the Athens Olympics. The only AC was in the Mercedes Bens cabs and tour buses. Fans in rooms, no AC. Delphi was one of our first stops heading out of Athens. It was still ungodly hot, but not like that big city. Our tour guide kept stopping and turning around in front of the temple remains because she heard something. The cool air from the chasm was interacting with the insanely hot air. You could hear a moaning from the air surging and pulling against each other. Soft enough to make you strain to listen but clearly audible. I have always wondered if the ancients experienced the same phenomena when that weather patter occurred. It's possible when the temple was in use and covered the air couldn't react. But I'd bet the site goes back further than we know.
my favorite delphic prophecy is the one that said socrates is the wisest man in all of athens - of course, the truth being that he was the only athenian who knew of his own ignorance
You'd think the King of Lydia would be skeptic when the Oracle gave him a vague answer about what kingdom would be destroyed between his and Persia but people are only human and humans want to believe that everything will be alright.
Or more commonly, humans tend to look for something to confirm what they already believe. Its why people tend to hang around with people with similar world views and consume information that agrees with their own POV
Very great episode.
I always had curiosity about the oracle of delphy, seems quite splendid to hear how she replied, though vaguely.
How about the Delphic oracle as an intelligence gathering operation in conjunction with the cult ofDionysis?
sounds like a Ubisoft DLC plot
More like a money/pyramid scheme or an navigation port for colonies.
Either way it was more than a religious site.
@@Voo504Doo Conspiracies aren’t pushed aside, and your wording seems to understand it to an extent. Only Conspiracy THEORIES are pushed aside. Once those pushing the theory has removed the theory part by lifting the burden of proof, then it wouldn’t be pushed aside anymore. So yes, conspiracies are all legit, only the theories aren’t.
@@iLLeag7e Assassin Creed Odyssey is such a waste of potential. I never thought before that a studio could make ancient Greece boring and stupid that way (It is almost like OG God of War is poetry)
@@Leynx-Et-Fenrir ahh a fellow gamer. You speak the true true
The oracle sounds like an ancient version of that meme where "how many" questions are just answered with "yes"
One of the most fascinating aspects was after the battle of Cannae, the Romans sent Quintus Fabius Pictor to consult the Pythia on how to beat Hannibal.
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How does K&G manage to produce such great content on a daily basis? Not even History Channel during its prime could do this
Also Delphi as one of the most important sacred places of the ancient Greek world and also as the headquarters of the Amphyctionic League, became subject of many fierce civil wars among the Greeks. Not one but five Sacred Wars (!) took place for the controll of Delphi and the Delphic Amphiction among Athens, Sparta, Macedonia, Thebes, Fokis, Aetolian League and the other ancient Greek super powers.
Kings and Generals always comes up with the best content
Dang. Very "cultured" art in the beginning
I was already getting my horse ready for a ride to Delphi. Just to see witness the riches and prophecies, you know.
Man i always had this question raging in mind when i heard about them and how they attract many legends
i have said it before and i will say it again ancient history is always fascinating to me
forget the content to which I came for ... just the intro bit about hairloss is enough to earn a like lol
Omg!!! ❤ Thank You so much for uploading this!!! You have no idea just how much this means to my soul. 😢🎉
As always a Nice video !! Coming at the right time !! !!! Keep Going on you guys are doing amazing work !!
My favorite one will be during the second Medic war when the greek generals inquire the oracle about the war against Xerxes and the oracle spoke:"The war will be won by a great wall of wood": And so the war was won in a giantic naval battle at the gulf of Salamine.
Oracle: "What prophecy dost thou seek?"
Visitor: "Ummm ... Should I wear my hair up or down"
Oracle: "Seriously?"
Good timing. I hope you resume Alexander's series asap :)
Working on it!
Gotta admit I laughed at "it's too late for our historian but you can stop male pattern baldness" 🤣
Dear Lord KG Historian Sir, it’s not the amount of hair on thy head rather the copious brain cells in thy skull that gets us ladies’ hearts a-thumping.
Or something not as drunk-sounding.
No you can't. Once your hairline starts doing french tactical maneuvers you will have a hard time getting it back
Very interesting! Thank you for sharing
appreciate the good work! Although I have to say as a more Byzantine oriented subscriber, I Love the Byzantine videos and the current series about the post-4th crusade world and I wish they were uploaded more often. Anyways keep up the awesome videos! Cheers!
I am to a more Byzantine oriented subscriber but I liked the video
You haven't done Indian history much on your channel
Believe me you will fall in Love with it, and there isnt much insight about it on channels like yours.
Would love to see it
Keep up the great work✌✌
I've been a fan of your stuff for years and years. First time commenting. Do you plan to do any Greek mythology stuff? My own reading, Stephen Frys Heroes and Mythos and the game Hades just arent giving me enough of a fix. Also, will you be putting more stuff on Spotify? I've been travelling Australia for 3 years and listening to your stuff as I drive those long endless roads would certainly ease the pain
Making the intro oracles this hot was intentional and I hate/love it
Fascinating details, thank you.
You caught me at such ridiculously perfect timing. I was just having a Xena binge haha
@𝔭𝔥𝔬𝔢𝔫𝔦𝔵 Sadly no. I'm just a humble barbarian who happens to be a big fan of the Bronze Age cultures
@@Voo504Doo The word barbarian came from the ancient Greeks of old. Varvaros was the word, meaning (from the sound of foreign languages as.....varvarvar to Greek ears, or kind of weird jiberish) the non Greek speaker or foreigner. Initially and for long it had no much demeaning connotation, just used by Greeks to define non Greeks, but probably from time of Alexander and later Hellenistic times it got a little (to the known today meaning of uncivilized or brute) but that definitely happened with Romans borrowing the term and using it for the Celtic, Germanics and all others they faced and all not united by the civilization of the Empire. Ofc at initial contact also they as non Greeks, were called by then Greeks as barbarians sometimes too....but that quickly changed even before imperial times with Roman prevailing and acquiring Greek culture, although Greeks continued to view themselves -and Romans also saw them in that light by the way-, as the learned and intellectual cultured ones in this relationship, with the Romans (meaning still Romans as defined from latium/italy and their med colonies, cause later and before the official stamp of 212AD all became Romans not only in name but essence, including Greek speakers of Empire, the latter as fate had it would carry the name of state till 15th c AD and also of identity inside Ottoman territories till beginning 20th) copying much from Greeks and admiring Greek language, but returning favor to Greeks by considering them as too theoretical over-philosophizing non practical dudes, LoL. Anyway, a nice anecdote from first and early war engagement of Greeks vs Romans (I guess narrated much later by that so Roman loving Greek Plutarch) when king Pyrrhos of Epirus came to battle Romans at Heraclea 280BC: He took the day before the battle a close aid to go nearby the Roman camp and oversee it from some safe distance. He is said to have uttered to his companion after watching the legionnaires with some alarm "Those barbarians over there do not look very barbarian to me, but we'll see tomorrow what they are worth in battle..."
This is quite fascinating
I f love this channel!
Great, as always! Hail, Kings and Generals!!!
a famous Pythia's saying is "Ήξεις, αφήξεις ου, εν πολέμω θνήξεις" , or "Ixis , afisis , ou en to polemo thnixis" in latin letters . Which either means "You will depart , you will return back , you will not die in the war" or "You will depart , you will not return back , you will die in the war" , the whole meaning changes by the comma position in the sentence .
Someone was having a little bit too much fun drawing those Priestess'
Watching this before going to Delphi this weekend :)
I want to ask Oracle of Delphi, am I included 2 out of 3 guys that will experience some kind of hair loss by the time of 35
The Oracle would tell you to peer into the spring of Narcissus for the answer :)
@@themiltonman 😁😁😁
If your daddy bald, you will be too
- The priestess, probably
Awesome stuff y’alls!
Nicely informative video. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.
Wow, those oracles at the beginning... 😍
That goat offering culture by Greeks is exactly similar to our country Nepal by Hindus.The goats neck is sprayed with water then if the goat shakes its head then its ready for its own sacrifice to god.We offer sacrifice to Goddess Durga during our main festival dashain. Such a weird thing when you think about it how some elements of culture intertwine even though the western and eastern culture are most of the time vastly different
They are both indo European
Repent otherwise perish Jesus is the only way
This is very interesting.Since Greeks made kingdoms in the edges of India and Greco-indian culture mixed(first buddha statue as a man was made by Greeks)it could have been past down from them!
First answer to the Croesus was pretty straight forward, Delphi oracle nailed it and it wasn't vague at all.
Croesus:"Should I attack?"
Pythia:"Fuck around and find out"
@@MrDalisclock More like,
Croesus : "What am I eating right now."
Pythia : "Turtle soup"
Croesus : "She's for real, take my money"
@@masi8926 also true
It's good to see that some of the Greeks are worshipping their old gods I saw a video on that it was actually pretty good. It's also good to see people going back to their old ways. And by the way I forgot love your videos and content keep up the good work Kings and Generals!!!
@Θ.Σ.Κ.30 who cares... i dont care what people think about me or my beliefs to be 100 homes. If i live in a christian country and some people dont believe in muslim beliefs. And vice versa. If everyone believed in the same God we wouldn't have any wars that hinge on religion. Im the time of Christ people laughed at Christians. So... its all relative to the time u live in. 😆 🤣 just like im lauging in yours vato. Muahahaha
@Θ.Σ.Κ.30 that's whats wrong with our world. People judge when there's no reason too. Much love to you vato.
I like how they conceptualized axial tilt and seasonal depression as "Apollo goes to live in Hyperborea, and Dionysus comes to hang out in Delphi."
Thank you , K&G .
Great episode! Just how the prophesies were crafted is something we'll probably never know.
Loving the Civ 6 tracks :D
oh my god , you did it again !!!
Too nice video & enjoyment times...thanks ( kings &General) channel
They must have worked or they would not have lasted. Generalities would not work then anymore than now. They may not have had our technology but they were not stupid - probably better minds than ours. Been there, fascinating..
great video! A journey to delphi. Greece's secrets service agency of ancient time
that transsion to the bald stuff commercial was pretty smooth lol
The clairvoyants are surprisingly atttactive.
So from the 2 minutes mark we know that the greeks knew that the earth is round, since the eagles flew in opposite directions and met at Delphi. But modern conspiracy theorists wants us to believe thats it’s NASA’s fault.
You are so right.They got this knowledge from the Egyptians...
Obviously these conspiracy theorists are too stupid to help
~ Will I destroy my enemy? Will I lose?
~ You will destroy a great empire...
Nice video!
oracle of Delphi Should I watch kings and generals. Knowledge is always a wise investment. My interpretation is a solid yes.... I was right another great video, as always. 🙂
Man I wish I lived back there
So beautiful and colourfull
I had the pleasure of visiting the Oracle of Delphi a few weeks ago!
Anybody knows the song starting around 12:43?
This is utterly amazing and wonderful. Thank you so much!
Love The vid
For those who are accostumed with religions such Candomblé and Umbanda it is very easy to understand. Everynight you can go and talk to priests that have received an entity during a transe state
I'm so interested with all the contents of this canel. Unfortunately to share it with my friends, I need Indonesian subtitles too...
Are going to do a video regarding The Dacians pagan god Zamolxis?? Great video by the way❤️❤️❤️
The responses were not always vague one example I know of is the oracle telling Alexander the Great he was invincible.
Will you do the Dodona oracle too?
Thanks for the vid! I'm from Delphi
Bald eagles at 1:58 are anachronistic, they're only native to North America. White-tailed or golden eagles would've been more accurate. Still amazing work on the vid, my dude
Ah yes, we meet again. Another video I watch instead of sleeping.
Alexander the Great had a special way to deal with the Oracle. The Pythia hesitated to give him a prophecy concerning his war against the Persians because the last oracle given to his father Philip proved to be his death sentence. So when she hesitated too long, Alexander did not accept visiting the oracle in vain. He just dragged the holy Pythia by her hair to the temple so that she could make her prophecy. On the way she cried out: "Let me go. You are indeed invincible, o Youngling!" Alexander stopped and let her go, satisfied with her answer.
Song at the beginning of the video? I think it also showed up in most of the Celts videos
Reminds me of the game: "God of War" where Kratos kills the twin Castor and Pollux to reach the Oracle😀😀😀😀
Sopranos mention Sibyls in an episode when he was visiting in Italy, that's why Im here watching.
Oracle: ''I am the Oracle. I can answer any question you ask''
Me: What is the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
:D
"What you mean an European or an African one?"
Knowing people and how they do is a big step in predicting the future . Even more so , if they had information on a city or countrys history and politics . It's realy easy to predict what they are going to do and with this information you can consult them on a course of action that looks like a divine prediction.
where can I find the map used in these videos? any idea ?