Demosthenes: Greatest Enemy of Philip of Macedon

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      @lalruatdikavarte7943 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Where I came from we all tell the truth about our victory never lose a battle or war. All the peoples will always learn the writen by the victory not the loser.

    • @williamtheconqueror7807
      @williamtheconqueror7807 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Demosthenes: This Alexander kid doesn't seem too threatening. I mean he couldn't stand against the Persians, right?

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      @aniketsojitra876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

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    • @mdmiloy5897
      @mdmiloy5897 3 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @dannythehonestgamer6051
    @dannythehonestgamer6051 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1035

    Demosthenes: "I am against any empire building in Greece. As long as it is not Athens that does it. If Athens do some empire building then it is ok."

    • @jeffreycheng5141
      @jeffreycheng5141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +130

      Americans and their "empire"

    • @sauron7839
      @sauron7839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +217

      Jeffrey Cheng Literally everyone who ever had an empire

    • @alchemist6819
      @alchemist6819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@jeffreycheng5141 true

    • @alchemist6819
      @alchemist6819 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@sauron7839 also true😅😅

    • @Ideo7Z
      @Ideo7Z 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@jeffreycheng5141 And eventually China, for like the second or third time.

  • @philtkaswahl2124
    @philtkaswahl2124 3 ปีที่แล้ว +533

    Current Video: "A relatively obscure man named Alexander."
    Older Video: "Yes, THAT Alexander."

    • @frodoswaggins3132
      @frodoswaggins3132 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      He WAS relatively obscure. He hadn’t done much yet, just serving in his father’s army.

    • @apexnext
      @apexnext 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Love the Older Video reference! 😂

  • @alansalas1880
    @alansalas1880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +220

    Demosthenes: Finally that King is dead, time to bring Athens to a new golden age.
    Obscure Young Man Alexander: i'm about to end this man's whole career

  • @johnwicksfoknpencil
    @johnwicksfoknpencil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    A father builds a superb rifle, unmatched in power and versatility - but dies before he can use his masterpiece to its full potential. His son, however, is a brilliant marksman and puts his father’s creation to legendary use the likes of which the world will remember forever.

    • @ThanasiKarras
      @ThanasiKarras 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      legendary commentary, no one wants to admit it but Alexander was a "trust fund baby" of the ancient world. I'm not saying he wasn't masterfulz hardworking and brave and a great leader. But we anyone who's studied history knows it was Philips trained army that he used to conquer all of that land

    • @TheStarkman123
      @TheStarkman123 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ThanasiKarras Alexander was a very skilled tactician though, so it's not owed just to the army his father built up. It's like giving a $1,000 tool to an incompetent artisan, the value and quality of the tool isn't going to make any difference to the quality of the work if the artisan doesn't know how to use it. Alexander wasn't that artisan.

  • @Farazormal1
    @Farazormal1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +346

    His distaste of Phillip as a "barbarian" because he's from Macedon seems rather strange given that his mother was half Scythian.

    • @huntermad5668
      @huntermad5668 3 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      Since Macedonian and the even more northern state above it got the spots in Olympic, we could only assume that was all rherotic.
      Even mornarchy was't all that strange for Athen with some city states did have kings in some ways.

    • @olenickel6013
      @olenickel6013 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

      It was less about heritage and more about being a citizen of the right Polis. As Athenian, other Greek citystates were slightly inferior, but beyond that everyone was Barbarian, not out of bloid, but because they weren't proper Greek citizens.

    • @dritanbakiaj6810
      @dritanbakiaj6810 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      The population of Macedonia was thracian.the royal family might be Greek.

    • @lavoenterprise610
      @lavoenterprise610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@dinaroid what makes you so sure? Any academic sources?

    • @philipii5386
      @philipii5386 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Only Men had citizenschip in anciant greece.

  • @davebowman9000
    @davebowman9000 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    Demosthenes: So glad Philip got murdered! Zeus has blessed us!
    Alexander The Great, who believed himself to be a Demi-God, son of Zeus: Lol, not you dude

  • @animeyahallo3887
    @animeyahallo3887 3 ปีที่แล้ว +81

    The last time I was this early Aristotle is still teaching Alexander things about the world.

  • @schroedingersdog7965
    @schroedingersdog7965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    08:35 "Perhaps the Macedonian king would be a reasonable man if granted his immediate desires . . ."
    It sounds as if Neville Chamberlain was a student of Demosthenes.

    • @Madhattersinjeans
      @Madhattersinjeans 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is speculation on part of the video writer btw. But it seems possible given the events that occured.

    • @swaminathanbalakrishnan5182
      @swaminathanbalakrishnan5182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@josecipriano3048 Eh? Don't tell me we were ready - crushed in the first year.

  • @umiddey8714
    @umiddey8714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +147

    This is the literal personification of "a pen is mightier than a sword".

    • @SeymoreSparda
      @SeymoreSparda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      He even died using the poison he put in his pen. His countrymen still suffered through the might of the sword, though.

    • @bluemountain4181
      @bluemountain4181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Is it? Demosthenes was very unsuccessful, every time he raised a rebellion it was crushed

    • @umiddey8714
      @umiddey8714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@SeymoreSparda Yeah this is what pushed me to make the comment, about him dying from sucking ink from a pen. Literally did what a sword couldn't.

    • @pharaohsmagician8329
      @pharaohsmagician8329 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bluemountain4181 He was a brilliant leader of his people but you're correct every step he took resulted in failure. But that's not to lay blame at his hands, he was excellent and made perfect choices but the rest of Athens wouldn't budge or listen to him even after proof after proof they would have been better off listening to him. For decades he made good calls and he failed because Athens grew so large and mighty they were arrogant and vain

  • @innosanto
    @innosanto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Phillip was brilliant. There needs to be series on Phillip with 2 or 3 episodes.

  • @georgegravanis3170
    @georgegravanis3170 3 ปีที่แล้ว +155

    -Demosthenes, Philip is dead he has been murdered.
    -Great now we can reestablish our old Athenian empire since Macedon will fall into obscurity again.
    -But sir, there is that young son of Philip i think Alexander was his name.
    -Beh, all good what can a little boy do....

    • @hamdaanchalky7724
      @hamdaanchalky7724 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Watch Alexander’s speech
      ‘Greatest speech in history’

    • @user-dg9xy9sm5e
      @user-dg9xy9sm5e 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Little boy: Destroyes Thebes and subjugates Athens.

    • @vmro9446
      @vmro9446 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alexander was a Macedonian not a Greek Arrian
      [Book II - Battle of Issus] "Darius' Greeks fought to thrust the Macedonians back into the water and save the day for their left wing, already in retreat, while the Macedonians, in their turn, with Alexander's triumph plain before their eyes, were determined to equal his success and not forfeit the proud title of invincible, hitherto universally bestowed upon them. The fight was further embittered by the old racial rivalry of Greek and Macedonian." [p.119]

    • @user-dd1ud1tu2r
      @user-dd1ud1tu2r 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vmro9446 Macedonians were Greek dorians

    • @vmro9446
      @vmro9446 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-dd1ud1tu2r the truth is Greeks have nothing to do with Macedonia! the Macedonians Macedonised the Koine language the new language was called Alexandrian or Macedonic, the Greeks didn’t like that, they tried to liberate themselves from the Macedonians (the lamian war) and were defeated then they allied with Rome destroyed the macedonian kingdom and became Romaioi, the Macedonians never lost their identity in Roman Macedonia or in the Byzantine empire, they never were assimilated by the Romans the Macedonians were assimilated by the Slavs, the Greeks claim the Byzantine empire was Greek but it wasn’t hellenised until 600ad, the Macedonian Sklavini drove out Roman Byzantine rule from the Macedonian region and established a state in 500ad that’s 100 years before the Byzantines even adopted the Greek language, the state lasted to 700ad by that time the slavs absorbed the Macedonian’s they absorbed their culture and in that amalgamation a people was gradually formed todays Macedonians, the Macedonian Sklavinian state was again destroyed by Greeks their Roman allies and bulgaria, but was revived by the Mijak King Samoil who led the Macedonian Sklavinian Bogomoil Kingdom, he stood against the Bulgarian and Greek Orthodox kingdoms

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 3 ปีที่แล้ว +214

    Demosthenes isn’t as lucky as Sun Yat Sen in uprisings...

    • @RodolfoGaming
      @RodolfoGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's why you didn't rule in a democratic government.

    • @day2148
      @day2148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Sun Yat-sen is lucky? The man never once held any real power, since he kept getting couped by military commanders. Then after he built his own military, he died right before the Northern Expedition launched.

    • @RodolfoGaming
      @RodolfoGaming 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@day2148 He is lucky compared to Demosthenes that was my interpretation anyway

    • @jhoffman106
      @jhoffman106 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's an honor to see you here your majesty.

    • @NumbNutts
      @NumbNutts 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Who?

  • @scoringbox2176
    @scoringbox2176 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    A seriously underrated aspect from these types of videos from this channel is the artwork. Well done!

  • @petrosb52
    @petrosb52 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Interesting topics for next episodes about Greek history : a series about the peloponnesian war, Cyrus anabasis, Corinthian war, Alcibiades biography

    • @christermi
      @christermi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Cyrus anabasis = startan expedition into asia minor

    • @Agras14
      @Agras14 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@christermi Wait, are you referring to Clearchus or Agesilaus II? Because the second didn't took part in Cyrus's expedition, while the first commanded (initially) a force of Greek mercenaries that ended up close to Babylon before the famous march back.

    • @lazmartel7305
      @lazmartel7305 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would love to see them cover Alkiviades

    • @sunofpeter2
      @sunofpeter2 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yesssss Please!!!!!

    • @christermi
      @christermi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Agras14 Agesilaus of course . I've read Xenophon's history , according to whom Agesilaus was a charismatic leader , and he , even though he was an exiled athenian , admired his high ideals and devotion to hellenism .

  • @kkyrezis
    @kkyrezis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Sparta fought against athens fot the "freedom of greeks"(peloponnesian war),then athens fought againsts the spartans to ,again,"free the greeks"(corinthian war),then they both fought againsts thebes and later macedon for the freedom of greece...

    • @aleksandarkaradakoski3258
      @aleksandarkaradakoski3258 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Philip conquered Greece.

    • @The30Free
      @The30Free 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aleksandar Karadakoski yet here we stand

    • @enyalios316
      @enyalios316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@aleksandarkaradakoski3258 Diodorus Siculus on the destruction of Thebes: "So it was that many terrible things befell the city. Greeks were mercilessly slain by Greeks, relatives were butchered by their own relatives, and even a common dialect induced no pity."
      ~Diod., 17.13
      (διὸ καὶ πάθη πολλὰ καὶ δεινὰ κατὰ τὴν πόλιν ὁρᾶν ἦν γινόμενα: Ἕλληνες γὰρ ὑφ᾽ Ἑλλήνων ἀνηλεῶς ἀνῃροῦντο καὶ συγγενεῖς ὑπὸ τῶν κατὰ γένος προσηκόντων ἐφονεύοντο, μηδεμίαν ἐντροπὴν τῆς ὁμοφώνου διαλέκτου παρεχομένης)

    • @katask7849
      @katask7849 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@aleksandarkaradakoski3258 nope he united greece
      How could macedonia (a greek kingdom) conquer Greece?how did it conquer it shelf?

    • @aleksandarkaradakoski3258
      @aleksandarkaradakoski3258 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@katask7849 The battle of Chaeronea 338 bc.

  • @Aristotelis_Hellas
    @Aristotelis_Hellas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Thank you from Macedonia, Greece 🇬🇷

    • @phoenix6385
      @phoenix6385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pontian go back to Turkey

    • @krismil
      @krismil 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHunterOfYharnam No matter where they came from 100 years earlier. Sure, why not. Porque no los dos? ... same as the Mexican tortillas.

    • @pornometanastis6014
      @pornometanastis6014 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@phoenix6385 Pontus has more HDI than your country lmao

    • @ren-shen
      @ren-shen ปีที่แล้ว

      @@wankawanka3053 what are Slavs, wanka?

    • @BOIOLA08
      @BOIOLA08 ปีที่แล้ว

      You should make a union. The same with cyprus.

  • @tylerchen3797
    @tylerchen3797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Imagine you are so powerful, influential, and feared that not only you and your son are remembered until the end of time but your one minor ememy gets the same treatment just for having the balls to talk smack about you.

    • @innosanto
      @innosanto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Demosthenes was the greatest orator. Its not Phillip

    • @romanvalkansproductions5376
      @romanvalkansproductions5376 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@innosanto Demosthenes was an opportunitist. He was the classic Greek politician that we still have until nowadays.
      He has master the art of language and he uses it so masterful and deceitful to guide the masses towards his own ambitions and interests. In other words a Demagogue (coming from the words demos and agogos, meaning people and guide, and guess what, there is a reason it's a Greek word)

  • @MagneticDonut
    @MagneticDonut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    YES! This channel is so incredible! As is Greek history. Thank you so much

  • @saillok4923
    @saillok4923 3 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Could you do a video about the Roman siege of Syracuse?
    The Greeks (kind of) had fiery laser beams and machingun-catapults, it was pretty epic.

    • @JonathanLundkvist
      @JonathanLundkvist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Mythbusters tried the laser thing three times and barely could get a sunburn.

    • @goosequillian
      @goosequillian 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@JonathanLundkvist That does not decisively prove it did not exist. There are numerous lost technologies, like the Greek fire, that we have never managed to unveil truly.

    • @dominges
      @dominges 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@goosequillian ''There are numerous lost technologies'' like how the Aliens build the Pyramids? :D

    • @yoi2461
      @yoi2461 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@JonathanLundkvist Well Greeks and myth busters not the same.

    • @geordiejones5618
      @geordiejones5618 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@goosequillian lost technology implies we dont have the means to replicate the limits of their time which we absolutely do. Greek propoganda was just as rampant as Roman or Persian. Greek fire probably wasnt nearly as effective or destructive as it seems.

  • @Geopoliticus
    @Geopoliticus 3 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Kings and Generals, you have become the Plutarch of TH-cam.

  • @JimH-vk8ft
    @JimH-vk8ft 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    The rabble: ‘Haha, what’ve you got, rocks for brains?’ Young Demosthenes, with pebbles in mouth: ‘...nooooooo’

  • @alexb9969
    @alexb9969 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is seriously one of your best videos yet. And, combined with the music and genuine quotes, it's truly an experience

  • @hopeindarktimes9535
    @hopeindarktimes9535 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I was utterly happy upon hearing the news about more videos about "Greek world". 😀
    I can't wait! I love ancient Greece!

  • @JahRandom
    @JahRandom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Keep up the quality content, K&G. The topics are always amazing and super interesting; but with your amazing artwork, great soundtrack, and excellent narration it is truly _always_ a pleasure. And even with the decent amount of content you put out, it is never enough. So thank you and never stop!!

  • @justinbell1596
    @justinbell1596 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    PLEASE for the love of god do a video about Timoleon!!!
    He stands out as one of the true hero’s amongst all of the ancient Greeks! It’s incredible how little known his story is!
    Please Please Please- do a video about Timoleon!
    When Timoleon’s brother seized the acropolis in Corinth, Timoleon took part in his assassination and the restoration of “liberty” in Corinth!
    When Syracuse petitioned Corinth for help against the Tyrant Hicetas, they sent Timoleon, who with a small force of mercenaries defeated the tyrant! Dionysus II, the overthrown tyrant, still occupied the citadel, where Timoleon negotiated a surrender, fully freeing Syracuse! He tore down fortress of the tyrant and built a courthouse in its place. He repopulated Sicily with Greeks, establishing democracies in depopulated areas..
    When Hicetas petitioned Carthage for help, marching on Syracuse with and overwhelming force, Timoleon led the defense and marched out to. Set the energy in open field. His ally’s abandoned him, yet he pulled off a stunning victory despite being outnumbered more than 6-1!
    From a Syracusan at Timoleons funeral-
    "The Syracusan people solemnise, at the cost of 200 minae, the funeral of this man . . .They have passed a vote to honour him for all future time. . .,-because, after having put down the despots, subdued the foreign enemy, and re-colonised the greatest among the ruined cities, he restored to the Sicilian Greeks their constitution and laws."
    I’m sure you all have read Plutarchs biography of Timoleon- it’s incredible!
    Please Please do a video about Timoleon

    • @christermi
      @christermi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It will possibly be covered in the Greco-Carthaginian wars series .

  • @deskouk1773
    @deskouk1773 3 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    Polybius on Demosthenes " The man who measures everything by the interests of his own particular state, and imagines that all the Greeks ought to have their eyes fixed upon Athens, on the pain of being styled traitors, seems to me to be ill-informed and to be labouring under a strange delusion".
    Following the Persian Wars the Athenians went in a propaganda campaign to create the idea of them being "the protectors of the Greeks". They went as far as to call the Spartans, barbarians. To the Athenians only those who live like an Athenian should be considered Greeks. Which is absolute non-sense.
    The reason Athens was so slow to respond against Philip was that many Athenians from the political scene were in favour of Philip. Look at Phocion of Athens or even Isocrates (who was more conservative than Demosthenes).

    • @alcaeus2
      @alcaeus2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Plutarch on Demosthenes and Phocion "At any rate, Phocion, among his contemporaries, though he took the lead in a policy which is not to be commended, and though he had the reputation of favoring Macedonia, nevertheless, by reason of his bravery and integrity, was held to be in no wise inferior to Ephialtes and Aristides and Cimon. Demosthenes, however, was not worthy of confidence when he bore arms, as Demetrius says, nor was he altogether inaccessible to bribes, but though he did not succumb to the gold which came from Philip and Macedonia, that which came down in streams from Susa and Ecbatana reached and overwhelmed him, and therefore while he was most capable of praising the virtues of earlier generations, he was not so good at imitating them." Plutarch, The Parallel Lives
      , Vol. VIII, The Life of Demosthenes
      , para. 14.
      Plutarch also mentions other instances when Demosthenes was bribed, e.g. the case of Harpalus. Seems plausible, that Phocion enjoyed the trust and respect of his countrymen for his conduct of bravery and devotion to Athens, but was following a policy of appeasement to Phillip, which is criticized by Plutarch. But in any case, Demosthenes was a known coward; he "ran away most disgracefully" at the battle of Chaeronea, abandoning his post. He hid behind his fellow citizens when Alexander called for his surrender, until Demades convinced him to relieve the city. He also ran away from Antipater and Craterus when they advanced to Athens. I would not hold him in high regard and you can take it from an Athenian.

  • @Daruliable
    @Daruliable 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yes, great video, from an era that I always loved, keep up the good work K&G's

  • @arpitarunmishra
    @arpitarunmishra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Last time I was this early the Mycenaeans were still around

    • @senpainoticeme9675
      @senpainoticeme9675 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Should have chosen the Minoans

    • @ahamedihamiyun5927
      @ahamedihamiyun5927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What happened to them ?

    • @samsmith2635
      @samsmith2635 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@senpainoticeme9675 Should of said the Healots

    • @lightbringer2794
      @lightbringer2794 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ahamedihamiyun5927 Volcanic eruption of Santorini or Thyra (former name) and then raids by the "sea peoples".

    • @ahamedihamiyun5927
      @ahamedihamiyun5927 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@lightbringer2794 weren't they the ancestors of the Greeks ?

  • @CyberCodeCracker
    @CyberCodeCracker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've been waiting for something like this, thanks!

  • @Szaszi24
    @Szaszi24 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man your new content is getting better and better every video. Great job guys

  • @aGr3atD4y
    @aGr3atD4y ปีที่แล้ว

    This is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels!

  • @user-kt1lh5sz1i
    @user-kt1lh5sz1i 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hell yeah. Again another excellent video guys!

  • @BaiZhijie
    @BaiZhijie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really appreciate how you used the tune from the Seikilos epitaph as the background music. Very subtle attention to detail.

  • @stepanpytlik4021
    @stepanpytlik4021 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    14:43
    Alexander: Allow me to introduce myself

    • @jesseberg3271
      @jesseberg3271 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm a man of wealth and taste

  • @iberius9937
    @iberius9937 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channel is magnificent and perfect for anyone passionate about antiquity and ancient warfare.

  • @nikosporgiotis7952
    @nikosporgiotis7952 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    great job guys. awsome narration, great level of detailed research and an astonishing work overall. would be great to see a video for alkiviades.

  • @marcillioficino4663
    @marcillioficino4663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic job... very well done.

  • @SFCzeus202
    @SFCzeus202 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Loving your videos! Is it possible to make a video on Xenophon's Ten Thousand? It is an amazing story which has not been covered by any of the big history channels as of yet.....

  • @ulfeliasson5413
    @ulfeliasson5413 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enthralling as always. Thank you.

  • @IoannisKazlaris
    @IoannisKazlaris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Demosthenes' speech impediment had nothing to do with stuttering or lisp: he simply had a difficulty pronouncing clearly the letter "r" or "ρ".

  • @rosaartemisg5027
    @rosaartemisg5027 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video !
    My gratitude 🙏

  • @thalesmoraes1312
    @thalesmoraes1312 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its great to have videos to wach on a tuesday!

  • @ouyrtuy5334
    @ouyrtuy5334 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Perfect video ! Thank you !

  • @danielkovacs6672
    @danielkovacs6672 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent and most interesting video!

  • @Tareltonlives
    @Tareltonlives 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad to see something on Demosthenes!

  • @georgeabraham5672
    @georgeabraham5672 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really great as usual

  • @manuelapollo7988
    @manuelapollo7988 3 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    "History is written by the winners". Napoleon: "caugh, caugh!"

    • @JonatasAdoM
      @JonatasAdoM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      French in WWII: Don't forget about us hein

    • @clementl.9566
      @clementl.9566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@JonatasAdoM France has more than 1500 years of existence and has many more victories in battle than any other country in the planet. It is easy to forget the bigger picture by pointing out small characters of our long history.

    • @kofi-kun6420
      @kofi-kun6420 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@clementl.9566 probably has to do with the fact that it was the biggest "recent" war too.

    • @clementl.9566
      @clementl.9566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@kofi-kun6420 When you think about Greece, Danemark, Norway, Belgium, Netherlands, countries of the former Yugoslavia and so on the first thing that comes into your mind is certainly not their defeat during the WW2 except for Poland (but it's mainly because of the atrocities that have been committed). It's just french bashing coming from America since we didn't want to be involved in their stupid war in Iraq.

    • @innosanto
      @innosanto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Napoleon won hundreds of times

  • @kadourkadouri3505
    @kadourkadouri3505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mates you’re making the best contents on TH-cam

  • @agpaok0704
    @agpaok0704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    "against other Greek states". Do you see this fakedonians? It is in description.

    • @christermi
      @christermi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Sometimes it's worth pointing it out , even though it's a given and obvious .

    • @krismil
      @krismil 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Battle of Chaeronea told them all who was the boss. Hint, not a Greek.

  • @hopeindarktimes9535
    @hopeindarktimes9535 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a great channell!

  • @Kahrdis
    @Kahrdis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Demosthenes: Yeah but what about those polemarch seals bruh

  • @TheSamuraijim87
    @TheSamuraijim87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great work K&G!
    If not possessed of slightly over-aggressive political viewpoints, Demosthenes' patriotism means he was truly worthy to be Cicero's hero.
    I can't help but feel that Aeschines deserved more than two mentions, because he was a lifelong foe of Demosthenes, and their political rivalry was an instrumental part shaping the political landscape of Athens and the Greek Cities.
    Really great video!

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video. I think it was a greatly informative one. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.

  • @K13774
    @K13774 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In the peace talks of 346, an athenian embassy met with Philip. Demosthenes was the youngest member of the embassy, so he was the last to speak before the macedonian king.
    However, Demosthenes was so nervous and fearful that he could not finish his speech. Philip saw the state he was in and encoured Demothenes to take heart and continue with his speech. But it was to late, Demosthenes was completely loss for words and could not continue.
    source: Ian Worthington, Demothenes of Athen and the Fall of classical Greece, chapter 7.

  • @albertofernandez9147
    @albertofernandez9147 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing job!

  • @SquirrelGrrl
    @SquirrelGrrl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just had to say, “damn...,” at the end there. Thank you for brining history to life!!

  • @curiosityscenes3098
    @curiosityscenes3098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow great video

  • @wardafournello
    @wardafournello 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The world was changing, the end of the city-states had arrived. The changes in Demosthenes' attitude show the struggle that prevailed in his consciousness, he was aware of the historical change, but his love for democratic Athens prevailed.

  • @dhaneswarmoharana5873
    @dhaneswarmoharana5873 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good endeavour in bringing the story of the great personality who conquered the heart of Macedonian people through his noble oration. Thanks

  • @MKfanmomo
    @MKfanmomo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I see so much similarities with the end of the Roman republic, the Latin and Hellenistic worlds were close in many aspects.

    • @innosanto
      @innosanto 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is Hellenic world, not hellenistic, hellenistic world are the macedonian kingdoms after alexanders death. Aka the kngdoma of his generals

    • @MKfanmomo
      @MKfanmomo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@innosanto Thank you for the clarification.

  • @danielconde13
    @danielconde13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Sadly enough, his end remembered me the death of our most celebrated writer, Luís de Camões, in the same year Portugal lost its independence to form the Iberian Union (1580 - 1640). One of those cruel destiny's coincidences.

    • @danielconde13
      @danielconde13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @Nom Anor Sorry, not all the Royal Houses of Iberia share the same heritage. Of course, throughout the ages, several marriages between them made it so - and Philip II had a legitimate claim to the throne of Portugal because he was grandson of the Portuguese King Manuel I. But this is also true for the whole of Europe - Queen Victoria was known as the "grandmother of Europe", due to her kinship with several Royal Families.
      So, countries should unite with each other over the fact of kings and queens sharing kinship with each other? Welcome to Europe, the "country"?...

    • @jalpat2272
      @jalpat2272 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      wasnt it because the Portuguese losing their young naive king and most of their nobles because his "crusade" on the Moroccan. ?

    • @danielconde13
      @danielconde13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jalpat2272 Hi, right on the "naive king", right on Morocco... wrong on the motive.
      King D. Sebastião had that foolish teenager dream of elevating Portugal to the mythical/biblical "Fifth Empire" status, and since Portuguese Empire was, at that time, long since based on the Indian Ocean and the still blooming Brazil, he thought that coming back to the glorious conquests in North Africa was a good idea.
      For that aim, he went on to the call for aid from the Moroccan sultan Mulei Mohammed, against his nephew, sultan Abd al-Malik. The resulting battle was a total disaster for all 3 rulers and their armies, since 2 of them died on the field, and D. Sebastião simply vanished, his body never recovered - the remains buried at Lisbon's _Mosteiro_ _dos_ _Jerónimos_ are a hoax. The battle of _Alcácer_ _Quibir_ (Portuguese) is thus also refered as the "Battle of the Three Kings".
      So, not quite a Crusade, but an intervention over Moroccan politics.

    • @danielconde13
      @danielconde13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@josecipriano3048 that's right, well, not forever, and not everywhere, but our zenith was reached. Sri Lanka was forever lost, and our prime armada erased after the disastrous Invincible Armada.
      But we did recover Northeastern Brazil and Angola from the Dutch, and managed to defeat the Spanish in the 28 year long Restauration Wars.

  • @andreiduduman4220
    @andreiduduman4220 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Impressive story and emotional ending!

  • @daanishalisayed7679
    @daanishalisayed7679 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can K&G please make a tracklist of the soundtracks they put into every video, or at least this one? The videos with the new style of animation and artwork and simply brilliant, raising the bar from an already sky high level from the previous videos!

  • @hfar_in_the_sky
    @hfar_in_the_sky 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Demonsthenes: "Oh thank the gods! With Philip dead, his empire will soon collapse into ruin!"
    Alexander the soon to be Great: "Allow me to introduce myself."

  • @jacobnestle3805
    @jacobnestle3805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would LOVE more videos about this time and the Diadochi wars

  • @jona.scholt4362
    @jona.scholt4362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I always laughed in HBOs John Adams series when Adams mentions Demosthenes during the continental Congress and the rest of the representatives are like,"not now Adams!"

    • @GabrielSoares-ju9yq
      @GabrielSoares-ju9yq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      is this show any good? i thought about watching it but have never heard of it before that

    • @theemirofjaffa2266
      @theemirofjaffa2266 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol.. actually do u know why they said that? Like, were they just tired of Adams' obsession with Greek philosophers?

    • @jona.scholt4362
      @jona.scholt4362 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@theemirofjaffa2266 If I recall they are simply tired of his arguing and of him being pedantic. And yes, it's a mini-series worth watching, though propaganda of the highest order.

    • @jalpat2272
      @jalpat2272 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theemirofjaffa2266 i miss times when public Representatives has brain, more brain than the stupid mobs they represented combined.

  • @mohammadsaida4603
    @mohammadsaida4603 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Too nice ,strange history video 👍

  • @mazarajr
    @mazarajr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Athenians when they learned about Philip's death: Thank Zeus, our freedom has returned and a new golden age will begin for us!
    Alexander the Great: Il vento d'oro/JoJo Giorno Giovanna's theme plays

    • @SeymoreSparda
      @SeymoreSparda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You mean : Iméra/ημέρα/day - Ioanna/Ἰωάννα/God is Gracious?😏
      P.S. - Giorno means day in Italian, right? Also, can't someone here further translate this into ancient Koine Greek?

    • @mazarajr
      @mazarajr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SeymoreSparda There is nothing to do with it man.There is an anime character with that name (Giorno Giovanna) and his theme song is very popular. Check it out

    • @SeymoreSparda
      @SeymoreSparda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mazarajr Dude...I know!😏 Trust me, am a big fan. I was just trying to be cheeky, by translating Giorno's Italian full name into a Greek one, to tie the meme to the subject at hand (Demosthenes fight against Philip). Actually, I was wrong in my initial assessment. Demosthenes spoke Attic Greek, not Koine (common) Greek in his lifetime (I think?).

  • @johnwhiteX
    @johnwhiteX 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do a video on the Cretan War, think that could he really cool

  • @eurasiaacaci.-110
    @eurasiaacaci.-110 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Demothemes : Hooray! Philip died
    Alexander : hello 👋

  • @JohnniePapas
    @JohnniePapas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Whoever made this game is more Greek than all our politicians conbined!!

  • @jordinagel1184
    @jordinagel1184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    “History is written by the victors, but that is not always true”
    *ahem* The Confederacy and the Lost Cause movement...

    • @iberius9937
      @iberius9937 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      The War of Northern Agression.

    • @charlethemagne5466
      @charlethemagne5466 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      History being written by the victors is more in the minority than the majority. For every war there is we always have sources from historians who clearly weren't forced to write positive of whatever events transpired and on the contrary give scathing accounts. I would have though people by now would have realised that quote just isn't true.

    • @game_boyd1644
      @game_boyd1644 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@greengrugach1984 ???

    • @arokjuata3365
      @arokjuata3365 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@game_boyd1644 ????

    • @iberius9937
      @iberius9937 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @The Martial Lord of Loyalty That's beside the point. The Confederate Government warned the Union troops to evacuate that fort time and time again, as South Carolina had declared itself independent, but to no avail.
      It's not a question of "who fired first" or "who did or didn't own slaves". The fact is, the war was almost entirely Abraham Lincoln's fault. HE was the one that sent a PUNITIVE expedition to secessionist states, starting with Maryland. HE was the one who, with one executive order, could have withdrawn federal troops from southern soil and prevented four years of useless bloodshed, but didn't. That's the issue here.

  • @edricdayne3571
    @edricdayne3571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    6:02 Demosthenes: We cannot allow Phillip to do to Athens what Athens has done to Macedonia and wishes it could do again

  • @ManpreetSingh-it3ij
    @ManpreetSingh-it3ij 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Truly an awesome video with quality content can you make an entire series each video detailing about the sieges of Constantinople

  • @ihebbenrhouma3957
    @ihebbenrhouma3957 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thanks for making my boring life more exciting for the next 23 minutes.

  • @Atipaj
    @Atipaj 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please do a video in Cato the younger and his last stand on trying to keep the virtues of the Roman Republic alive as well as his conflict with Julius Caesar.

  • @vazak11
    @vazak11 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting!

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you ,

  • @oofersjaunn6772
    @oofersjaunn6772 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome

  • @richardcharay7788
    @richardcharay7788 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed@

  • @jackson857
    @jackson857 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A sponsor that makes sense for the video!

  • @tomsmith4542
    @tomsmith4542 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    respect for this from Greece

  • @FlymanMS
    @FlymanMS 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That final roast of actor bounty hunter was sweet!

  • @dariusthegreat305
    @dariusthegreat305 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are we Thursday yet? I love surprise videos

  • @pandakicker1
    @pandakicker1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hear the Seikilos epitaph in the background!

  • @busnello1987
    @busnello1987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    could you guys make a video about Solon?

  • @satoryvivseeker
    @satoryvivseeker ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @BodyTrust
    @BodyTrust ปีที่แล้ว

    Always great research and delivery. BTW, in future videos of warriors, please omit the Hollywood wrist guards, since they are a complete fiction and would serve no purpose anyway.

  • @vaevictis5878
    @vaevictis5878 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do video(s) on Pompey and his conquests of the east?

  • @arnabbanerjee5608
    @arnabbanerjee5608 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video.
    Please make some video on Indian history.

  • @saltech3444
    @saltech3444 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for making this video. I am writing a novel about Demosthenes, and the comments section of this video shows how impossible it is to find anyone who is even ambivalent on the subject, let alone sympathetic to Demosthenes.
    I blame this on the tradition of scholarship starting with Professor Cawkwell in the 1960s and 70s, who takes every opportunity to blacken Demosthenes' reputation; as well as the fact that the only easily digested ancient source on Demosthenes is the biography by Plutarch, who happens to have inherited a tradition hostile to Demosthenes and fawning upon Phocion.
    I also read with disgust the 1950s novel by Mary Renault on the era, which fawns upon Alexander and scurrilously depicts Democratic Athens as a society of welfare cheats being led by the nose by corrupt venal child-molesters. This novel, too, is popular.

    • @valex3805
      @valex3805 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You said it! This is a video on Demosthenes, yet so many commenters down here are just sucking Philip's/Alexander's dick.

  • @knowledgez8986
    @knowledgez8986 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    can u plz tell which software u use for animation and video editing

  • @innosanto
    @innosanto 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With Phillip a great mind, military,political,organizational leading, with generals we know were very good (such as Cleitus), and with Alexander also.leading a part of the cavalry.. well there was quite a talent pool there.

  • @ArtanisOwns
    @ArtanisOwns 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    civ 6 music coming through strong

  • @DarthPlato
    @DarthPlato 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Epaminondas is a story worth telling.

  • @GeoBBB123
    @GeoBBB123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The map at 5:39 has the Acarnanian League over the Peloponnese!!

  • @marctherrien2181
    @marctherrien2181 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope to see a video about famous Roman politicians one day, for example Cato or Cicero.

  • @danilol8613
    @danilol8613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I’m earlier than Alexander marching around Greece

    • @AT-wj5sw
      @AT-wj5sw 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Marching around Greece ? That’s was just a warm up.

  • @prakashrao8420
    @prakashrao8420 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting