The SECRET to LANING with BRAINDEAD Supports - League of Legends
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“You cannot play the same style every game consistently and expect to climb”. Love that statement. Thanks for the content! 💯
Also skillcapped: push to win every game 🌝
I'm on a pretty healthy winrate, climbing, with sivir. just spamming my Q off cooldown into the wave and into enemy adc/sup.... shove like theres no tomorrow with sivir and its hard to lose tbh. the damage is insane, the range is unexpected, and people seem to forget the boomerang comes back just ater taking half their hp bar 0.2 seconds ago on the way in lol
@@kosmique shhh shhhh, before Riot sees this and nerfs Sivir’s Q. I went 13/2/14 with Sivir. Her kit is disgustingly fun to play. By far one of my favorite ADC’s to play.
@@fengliu975 right 😂
This video is pretty misleading though with it's argument and examples. Yes you should make adaptations from game to game but for example the first clip they showed of the xayah rakan vs lucian sona was literally just rakan griefing thinking he's somehow going to kill the lucian with heal and sona with exhaust walking past the minion wave. I agree with his point that you should adapt to your support's playstyle but saying "don't go X build/runes on a champ because your support may just run it down lvl 1 instead of backing off after a good trade and him landing the W knockup" is just nonsense. Literally instead of not going a build you can communicate and ping your aery and even type "I am lethality/poke xayah" and let them know.
I play support, main rakan specifically, and several videos from this channel helped me, but this specific video was certainly one of the most important, even as a support it's good to learn this, thank you
Interesting vid
I'm a support and I usually drag my adc along into engagements, which usually work out with one or two kills.
Suppose this can give me another thing to consider when picking Leona. Not as much of a problem on Pyke though since the enemy is the one who gets displaced.
the issue with leona is that she can engage anytime she wants where as the hook champs have to beable to lane hook which usually falls into the good circumstances for a play
Just because the support wants to tank the entire wave doesn't mean the adc wants to once the supp has chased enemy halfway down the lane.
@@dbteepo86
If that's the adc's attitude, they are too lazy for the role--maybe the game in general.
@@AlbinosaurusR3X the supports job is more than just heal adc, poke enemy champions, win fights.
@@dbteepo86
You completely missed my point... I played A TON of support when I used to play this game. I'm fully aware of what their job entails. I'm talking about an adc who is too lazy to chase is an adc who shouldn't play adc. If it's a bad play, that's one thing, but just because it's "half way down the lane" is no excuse.
5:16 Hope they make that an ezreal taunt ingame
THIS IS THE CONTENT IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR SO LONG
A MEME COVER?
1:30 yes, I can. She queued into bot lane or didn't dodge when she got it
Underrated comment
0:50 ah yes xin zhao my favourite adc
It's the other way around, too. "You pick XYZ, so you HAVE to go in/win everything..."
And at the end, the ADC doesn't even ask or say "Hey, let's wait until lvl X" or "Let them push" or else... it's hard to read their thoughts.
One short note or a ping can help here a lot!
The problem is Blitzgg app. People don’t know anything about runes, matchup, character analyses etc. They just auto build everygame
The real problem is that people don't communicate. We could use the 30 seconds on chat to coordinate, but we don't.
"Hey, I am engage support, can you let them push into our turret and freeze there?" Or,
"Hey, I am planning to only poke them, can we play around this tactics?"
@@BBBrasil Thats why soloq is shit
@@BBBrasil the real problem is, if you ask or say something like that, you will just get a "stfu".
or people won't say anything, but then when you die its something like "omg noob acting so pro", or "so much for your stupid ideas" ... you just cant talk with peope in this game. best is mute all and ego mode
I wouldn't say the problem is blitz or any other league app. The issue is HOW people use those apps. They actually do provide good info if you use them as a tool and not a crutch. Most people do the latter and just auto import runes, summoners, items, etc. so they don't have to actually think. They're likely "lazy gamers" and when provided something that allows them to think less they will jump at it immediately. I use blitz/UGG but I use it to view my winrates, cs averages, KP, gold difference @ 15, etc. It's actually useful information that I take in and has helped me learn and refocus in my games where after awhile I might start slacking on X thing and need to make a more conscious effort to do that thing. So these apps aren't a bad thing, it's just like any learning tool that makes things incredibly easy and accessible. You end up with two types of people: Those who use it as a tool to memorize and improve their thought processes and decision making so they can become better and work towards becoming self reliant and then you have people who say "Sweet! Runes and match ups always confuse me, here's this app that tells me all this info so I don't have to memorize it myself!"
This should be listed as a general bot lane guide, considering the advice here goes both ways. I play fill and one thing I've learned about bot lane is your partner will rarely have the same game plan as you, regardless of whether you're the adc or support.
Support here and really liked this video. Since watching you guys I have paid way more attention to my partner/his champion select and also playing around him meaning reading him not only on Champ select but also in lane. It gets frustrating when adcs seems to want to do their thing but it's fine as long as they have a plan unfortunately in most cases there is no plan 😕 😔 😢 love bot lane because it is one of the most rewarding when done well. Anyway good to see this video really helpful.
the more problem revealed, the more I love to play aram
damn, aram is so chilling to play
I'm a support main who play almost every support champion, even off-meta and these ADC behaviors triggered me so bad, especially the Pantheon part
Id really suggest to anyone who can afford it, buy an hour with a coach who will review your gameplay who is atleast GM and get them to talk to you about how you can improve your laning.
I got Hmmer to coach me a few years ago and it changed my gameplay massively.
SC has a lfg group in its discord channel.
It could be amazing to hook up with ppl there and play together over the last video tips.
But the general chat is the only active group, nothing to do with the supposed SC business model. Edit: SC moderators don't promote lfg.
It is as if SC real business is to use their platform to sell coaching. I will not pay them even more for that.
6:27 That Lulu laugh really got me
Meanwhile I get the Leona playing 6 screens behind me and the Yuumi that tries to fight 2v2 vs Draven+Pantheon
I will say I feel like this is also down to the enemy champs. Personally I have had this sort of situation, playing xayah with rakan. In chamo select I thought I'll go crit lethal tempo to match the all in and if rakan just fights level 1 with me we can win with the shared xayah w. Then guess what? He just sat afk for 6 levels and we lost automatically. If I had gone the poke build, as this was a time the poke lethality was better than crit, and in that game they didn't have sustain and had heavy all in. In that game I could've had more impact by poking the enemy since my support didn't do what I expected they would. In the first game of this video the enemy support is sona, who counters poke as a sustain champion. Personally I think playing around how you can abuse enemy champions is better than synergisting with your support, because imo it's just as common that your support doesn't do what their champion is good at as it I they do what they are good at, and the same is true for the enemies.
0:49 i consider xin an adc too XD . Jokes aside i actually play em bot with jarvan . They r so deadly with 0 counterplay early
I bet he does well against Sivir, she's immobile with no cc.
Sooo what if the support decides to be out of lane often? I’ve had lane partners that seem to constantly roam pre-6 while I try to survive and stall waves so they don’t fall far behind
Thx Ezreal for the tips :)
This is a really bad guide lol. 80% of your adc "guides" are actually just videos gaslighting adc's.
I've paid for coaching by neace and Saber. Both high challenger/pro level players. The anti-adc/pro support bias is seething from this video.
1) you say nothing about pings.
2) you don't talk about lane match-ups (poke vs catch vs all in) or win conditions.
3) you actually encourage bad plays by saying to play to match your support's play style - this will ACTUALLY fuck your games up. If your support does something stupid, literally every good coach I have worked with has said to just let your support int and don't int with them. Your job as an adc is to farm up and scale. League of legends is a game of survival horror for an adc. Your job is to survive until you can fight back. Not to play with your support or to match their inting playstyle. Only time you should play with your support is when they actually have a brain, and 90% of the time, they don't.
4) better advice would simply be to learn how to identify when a support is a bad support and then, when they prove that they are, completely ignore everything they want to do and play for yourself. Let them int their brains out. Just don't int with them. As soon as my support ignores my pings and does random shit that I red ping them not to do, I ignore everything they say and do and just play for myself. I start off trusting all supports equally at the beginning. But once they've shown they have no clue how the game works, that's it for them. Nothing they say matters. Just farm up and hope they're not actively inting to feed your laner adc. Wave management is your friend. Slow pushing and freezing in particular depending on whether or not you're behind or ahead respectively.
Remember that they said that perma pushing is viable if your support is bad? What did you see in this video? Them berating an ADC for following their advice, lmao
@@shikikankillzone4239 exactly lol.
As a stereotype „We dive at 2“ engage support player, this was actually really helpful!
I really liked this video. It's not a mechanics or even a strategy thing, but I think it's so important for people to hear that bot lane success is, at least in part, just straight up team work. There's definitely something to be said about trying to sync up with your duo--kind of the point of wanting to play bot lane, imo, but a lot of League players don't get that fsr.
OK, this applies to supports that play accordingly to their champion. Now what do I do when I am playing Samira and my Leona is behind me pinging me to run away? 🥴
Just providing what you said leaves out a lot of context. Not saying the leona is right to ping back and playing passive but a possible reason is that the enemy JG or mid is roaming or is likely on their way bot after reset and she's trying to get you not to take trades and fights while they are either on their way or nearby.
ngl ezreal irl actually does a good troll impression
As a silver support main I can confirm my brain goes into troll mode when I see an adc out of position, that was so funny
In the first example you are absolutely trolling by saying that xayah should go on hit against sona/orianna. U didn t show their jg but it's just stupid not to go lethality into their comp, since lethality is the more powerful build in the current meta and it is far easier to play in solo queue because you have range to keep urself safe. Other than that the lethality build is also better for all in in bot 2v2, since you can one shot squishies once you get a dirk. The fight that you have shown is absolutely pointless since xayah (with whichever rune page) sucks at all ins at lvl 1, she needs her E to win 2v2 so she needs level 2 or 3.
You shouldn't adapt your build to your support, but obviously to the enemy comp.
I'm pretty sure I pick Kog'Maw just to hear him say "KEEP COMING, NOT FULL!" And his battle charge song. LOL
3:56 So you're telling me that if she had initiated with rakan Lucian wouldn't be dead ?:D
What do you do when your support is legitimately a troll though? I had a Bard a few games ago that would ult enemy champs when they got low and actively prevented me from getting kills. What can I even do there? It’s like being trapped in your lane.
Xayah: sees yesterdays video saying to get push advantage and tries it
Panth supp: I’m bored
My ADC Varus: _"I'm running a poke build and runes, why'd you pick Nautilus"_
Me: *_"Nah, don't worry, I'll do all the damage, CCing and tanking. You just pretend the enemies are minions and last-hit them when they're low"_*
Every adcs were waiting for this for so long! Ty
Clearly
Lulu: me polymorph champ, enemy behind minions me go in polymorph.
I think the Xayah coulda flashed and finished off the kill on the lucian tho
" for every adc", sees xin zhao in the frame
I hereby report all crappy supports for the rest of eternity!! All you noobies holding me back, you are REPORTED!!
7:10
This
Omg i get ptsd from it
Literally trigers me so badly and is the reason i do "wrong stuff" good calls but i go in first (most of the time samira) then sup does not follow up and calls you brain dead
Like when i see it i can control myself and i go in even when i know the sup isnt gonna follow up
Sag but nice guide i needed to hear this
I disagree.
Lulu was moving forward when Xayah decided to walk backwards, Lulu just followed, that is clear.
I use to play Lulu, that Xayah is playing against an engaging support and is pushing, I would play along with that.
But that means to use a ward against ganking and I don't see them using it.
@@BBBrasil i don't see a world where they get ganked
Like i don't want the Lulu to flash and try to all in him
But with this huge wave just step up if this jhin is stupid and the minions will win the fight
It wouldn't be a kill but a good chunk of hp gone
It's the sutle thing's
If in this situation they get ganked if they stay in wave they win the 2v3 becuase they are under tower with full sums
Great content. I really appreciate your channel, has helped me improve a lot!
Last game, my Zyra only landed 2 roots in the whole laning phase against a constantly over extended Kalista. Damn was that frustrating.
As someone who plays both ADC and support, this was a very interesting video. Thanks Skill Capped!
Why do you do this? You're a menace to society uploading this kinda quality content without some kind of addixtion warning. I have work tomorrow and I'm binging your content at 4am.
Not sure about adapting your playstyle to your support. This means that you're adapting to a random playstyle every game. This means that your playstyle is flexible and random every game. People want some solid fundamentals to climb with, I'm just not sure "Adapt to the rando" is the way to go. Particularly when- Support could be fantastic, support could be terrible because the MMR got it wrong (and who's never seen that?), support could be trolling, support could be trying support for the first or second time in ranked. Its just so unreliable to adapt to your support in SoloQ.
This may be the reason why I get support that doesn't do anything sometimes. Or like a Pyke at lv1 who grabbed the enemy while I was 1 auto away from lv2 for both of us and with E on CD with Miss Fortune, we lost that interaction, hard. And honestly on the first clip the Xayah isn't to blame, after the trade she visibly backed and then Rakan initiated
Play around my team mates boredom levels, gotcha!
that still doesnt explain why my leona wants to towerdive at level 2 without minions
I love your vids guys.. So helpful.. Thank you
I always adapt to my sup's play style but sometimes it is impossible to do so. Once I picked Ziggs as adc because the match up was good for it. My sup picked after me and got a Nautilus. He did lots of all-in and never desengaged after I used all of my abilities and got all on CD. Because of that, he died a lot of times and still pinged me...
Amazing video, the one which I love the most - not WHAT to think but HOW to think
Smooth brain supports are way too common these days tbh... something needs to be done. Supports need to be SUPPORTIVE instead of getting bored and inting lol, it doesn't matter what the playstyle of your adc is. Truth is all supports are boosted AF at every level.
i play a lot with rakan and i had no clue "poke build" is actually a thing, not a single ADC explain this to me (much easier to blame and get muted) Ty for the video, i was probably doing the same mistake >< I'm aware of the issue now
braindead? my support fed 3 times, enemy jinx got a mythic at like 10 minutes
Thanks Ezreal
0:50 xin zhao ADC meta?
The sneaky Xin botlane
1. Understand Your "bs for fun, i play kata support" and Adapt to it
2. Never push Anything, besides the enemy adc leaving the lane
PS: in the vid for Supp they say leave your adc and roam. let him die
0:49 xin zhao adc BigBrother
thanks, ezreal
Finally a Xayah video
I main ADC. Think im pretty allright with the cs/wave control and looking for when to fight. This week i played Ezreal with a Nami support. Nami went fighting at level 1, while i just wanted to kill the minions to get level 2 first and then try to poke / go in. Ending up in a dead for Nami, and she is blaming me, saying im blind and asking why i don't go in, in caps :). I mean.. what do you expect. Watch the goddamn wave. We were at a minion disadvantage which i wanted to turn around. Then she does it two more times.... :):). Ended up in winning the game tho, gladly, but things like this just suck..
Nami.....went fighting at level 1? I think there playing the wrong champs
@@flashrunner2689 the ultra aggro enchanters man... like one of those barking chiwawas....
Why pick a poke lane comp and try to all in before chunking enemy down.
I STRONGLY recommend disabling both /All chat and Allied chat in settings. 99% of the time it's just a distraction and no one ever types anything of value like strategizing. All the info you need in league can be gained through better map awareness, understanding of jungle pathing (where they started), and pings.
Ezreal is a great champ to main and play a lot of in solo queue though. Very reliable, consistent, and self sufficient ADC. The only thing I would tell you is to ping more in situations like that. Yes it won't always get them to listen, but the point is you need to accept the reality that bot lane is two random strangers playing a coop game together where the ability to "win" depends on their ability to communicate and work together. In your example if you notice you are at a minion disadvantage before the 2nd wave, just danger ping the wave and position more defensively. Let the wave come to you and respect the level 2 of the enemy. Smart usage of pings can telegraph to your support what your intentions are in any situation and let them know what you want to do. That's why so many low elo ADCs have problems in lane. They don't ping what their intent is enough. Are you trying to fast push on the 3rd wave to get a free reset? Spam the assistance ping on the wave to try and get your support to help fast push the wave. Are you trying to freeze and keep the wave on your side because you know the enemy JG is bot side or will be? Spam the danger ping on the wave a few times and press tab and ping the enemy JG. Doing things like this is the best way to communicate to your support what your intentions are and what you are looking to do. You can't just sit there and expect other players to be on the same page even if it seems "so obvious that Shaco was going to be bot side" the only way you'll see changes in their behavior is by pinging smartly and proactively to let your support know what your game plan is at that point in time.
3:50 "MY ADC TRADE ENEMY BAD POSİTİON MEE PRESS W"
it is not about how braindead they are, its about griefing. supports CAN MAKE SURE YOU DONT WIN, unlike any of role in the game. riot has to stop these players from taking out their catharsis on their weak early game adcs.
It's a bit hard to get these things..i can know what my support is good at but adapting my items can be hard
1:40 as soon as I saw the Aery comment I dipped out
you know nothing
As a Leona main that last example hit way too close to home. The only ADC I understand is Tristana cause she passively shoves due to her E but there really is no excuse for ADCs auto shoving waves all the time. Especially since I politely ask them to let the wave shove so we can look for a kill at level too and hopefully not take too much poke. THEY THEN PROCEED TO CRASH THE FIRST WAVE 😒
EXACTLY UGHHH
Meanwhile supports using all their relic stacks on the first wave
@@meisterlampe533 well these are just shooting themselves in their own knees
@@meisterlampe533 yeah! As an ADC I hate when I want to slow push but my Pyke doesn't think about saving relic stacks to fast shove get level 2 and try go for a big play before they can react lmao. Guess there's 2 sides to the story after all
that's how teamwork supposed to be
I just played with a Dark Harvest Heimer support that built GA first and went 0-4 before 10 minutes
as a main support i can say that i am that class of braindead engage support that throw his Q to any enemy that is in the front of the minions,i didnt analize the runes of my adc or the waves of the minions,even if i dont play adc a lot,this video has work a lot with me
Too much flame on support when ADC do the mistake here. Flame the support when he does a mistake (that's okay), but don't flame the ADC when he does one (wich is hypocrite). You can't ask an engage support to go for a "poke build", unlike an ADC. But very interesting video. Talking about lack of adaptability from the ADC player is nice, but it's done without the flame like it's not a mistake. "Sadly, you must understand people you play with. Shocking ! Almost make me want to quit the game!".
Rakan has different options here. He can learn Q and poke as Xayah is doing, or he can use his W defensively, hitting whoever is near his lane partner, instead of going far away from her. By going away from your team and into the enemy, you're basically pretending everyone's level 6 already. Simply having taken W isn't enough to say that he's only able to engage. He can also disengage. In fact, his E sends him right back to her which if she's at relative safety is disengaging.
How do I do wave management when every single support perma shoves my lane? Can't exactly control my wave if they're constantly hitting every minion.
Also completely lost me when he said Draven was an extremely popular champion in low elo. Haven't seen a draven in almost a whole season.
Finally, as he starts to suggest that the builds were wrong to go Poke Xayah, I think he fails to recognize that Xayah has such a short auto range that if she goes the poke build so she can have an impact when her team can't allow her to safely get autos in on a team that has much bigger pressure in that space. For example, to get into auto range on a leona jinx matchup, she'd need to walk past leona to hit jinx which is ultimately not going to be feasibly through the whole game. Thus, you get infinitely more out of aery build than lethal because often people don't build their comps allowing you to do things. Maybe lethal would have helped in that trade, but it'd lose you the game because the lane isn't a vacuum.
watched this video and agreed with the logic. then my next game i got a passive blitzcrank player
good video admitting that 99% of support mains even up to masters are babies and have no idea how to play the game. 10/10
I main support and actually I'm always picking support that will be best for my adc champ, build and his playstyle. Even asking some questions in champ select, cause I know that they don't think about that things at all...
Bring it on.! We are here again and again.!
Hopefully you make a video on how to support "THAT" cause as a support main, some days I swear the entire ADC pool is playing with their feet and their monitor off.
Can i please get new guide, how to play with inting support, who is stealing my minions, kills, tower diving for fun.... I really need to know, beacouse iam playing with supports like that every single gasme.(most of the time, they are playing lux and xerath..), Thanks
And what do i do when i get an ahri "support" that pushes on the wave with her "poke"? Or when the cho jungle doesnt take smite, on purpose, and goes top to screw the lane? That happened to me today in the span of 9 games. And its silver 2, sure, its trashlo, but it still isnt iron. Supposedly.
80% of my games I get supports that play lux, zyra, senna, etc like if they were alistar or Rakan
The SECRET to LANING with a BRAINDEAD support: Stop being braindead yourself lmfao
Unironically good guide, thanks!
As a jhin main, I'm in heaven when I get a Rakan support.
Now we need
How to lane with brain dead ADCs
When u have a bad support, is it wrong to get lvl2 boots and roam mid a lot to get them ahead. Shove your wave, roam mid, wave bounces back, you collect it then repeat? I find that you don't fall behind much in gold or cs in silver-gold elo and since games don't last long, often a midlaner that is ahead is more crucial.
The problem I find is that the number one thing done by the lane with superior push power is to constantly ram waves into turret. It keeps priority semi-favorable for your lane, but it often forces EVERYONE to stay in lane for that sweet goldXP.
This is particularly why I've been very happy spamming Fiddlesticks support: I steal procs of spellthief until I'm lvl 6, and then start looking for the plays. If we happen to have a jungler who wants to gank for us, then Fiddle can help with that. The only counter to Fiddle is vision, and lots of it.
That sounds horrible in general because leaving your support alone means they can't finish their income item upgrades which means slower to get your team extra wards and slower for them to get max value in stats out of their 400 gold item. I see a lot of bottom lane players spending too much time trying to help jungle when they are doing just fine without help and can escape but they force the jungle to feel obligated to fight and it ends up in disaster for 4/5 of the team.
"Why did they pick the champion they picked?"
Well apparently supports pick Brand so that they can go AFK behind you and not actually use their spells.
very very good video ty
Oh great, so if I want to win I need to adapt to guy who is playing incorrectly, don't really supports me and ints. Great advice!
Xin adc 0:50. I've seen it all
When your support isn’t the homunculus known as Tyler1.
bro blitzed through your elo no doubt
I need tips to lane with braindead ADC
and this is why i started maining MF. sure, shes a very boring and generic adc, but i can all in with a good support, i can poke with a mage or enchanter or just farm under turret when i have an actual smoothbrain support that does literally nothing or one that roams like a chad
good choice analyzing only xayah in the video. She has two different builds which have completely different playstyles and she is the best adc to push the lane. And we all know that every low elo player just wants to push a lane for the sake of it
at least there is a "play" whene you have braindead supports, but in my case, playing with a braindead ADC, good luck leaving tower...
Just roam, the adc needs you but as support you don't need him
@@giomongta6961 This is a surefire way to stay hardstuck. Come team fights you'll have an ADC who does no damage and you're hoping that your team is fed enough to compensate for a ADC who is down in levels and items.
Dafuq? What the hell are you talking about? Botlane is 75% dependant on the support, especially on the early game
@@YuYuYuna_
That happens too when your support is bad
Unless your jg helps you to have a lead as adc
And now big secret boys, it works both ways.
My supports just last yo and push wave in while stealing my double kills and letting enemy adc tk kill them starting the snowball every game
I really want to see you guys do a video specifically talking about how to lane with a Yuumi. Why? Because Yuumi is just so bad to lane with.
Yes you should make adaptations from game to game but for example the first clip they showed of the xayah rakan vs lucian sona was literally just rakan griefing thinking he's somehow going to kill the lucian 100-0 with heal and sona with exhaust while walking past the minion wave. If the enemy bot was any good they would have just immediately exhausted him and turned since rakan is literally walking in their minion wave and SHOULD be dead since he already used W and is LVL 1 chasing past the minion wave thinking he can 100-0 lucian with heal and exhaust. I agree with his point that you should adapt to your support's playstyle but saying "don't go X build/runes on a champ because your support may just run it down lvl 1 instead of backing off after a good trade and him landing the W knockup" is just nonsense. Literally instead of not going a build you can communicate and ping your aery and even type "I am lethality/poke xayah" and let them know.
The fact is that lethal tempo xayah would've been as useless as aery xayah in the situation and way worse during the rest of the game.
So tldr: Be more empathetic to your allies.
Gee whillakers, whoda thunk it
What about when you are a support and you have to play with a braindead ADC? When you play Rell and they spam ping you to engage despite the other team having a Janna support that already proved her ability to instant tornado the second you click W?
What about when they pick an early game aggressive ADC, you match them your support pick, and they go on to play super passive letting the Vayne enemy ADC go even in lane?
As a support you don't need exp or gold so you're free to help other lanes
@@khtah2 You don't need exp as a support? Ofcourse you do. Plus if you ever tried leaving botlane as a support you would know that most people would shout at you to go back bot if you stay more than a few seconds.
@@KungKokkos just mute them. That's what I do. If they're bad there's no reason for me to listen to them. Also I should've said you need exp less than other roles
The biggest thing you can do on your side as the support is massively step up your ping game. Want to pressure for a lvl 2 play and there's 2 melee creeps left? ping "on the way" MULTIPLE times, not just once. Do this for everything you want to do. I know a lot of Supports say they hate doing this type of stuff but if that's the case then stop playing support. The job of support is to be a leader for your team but also for your ADC in bot lane especially if you're in low elo.
Now for the janna vs rell example you gave, what I can suggest to you is actively try to work on your ability to bait her tornado and abuse lane brushes with sweeper (oracle lens). In a matchup like that you can still get off engages but what you need to do is work on your movement and feigning aggression to bait out her tornado. For example play in the lane bush, sweep it if she wards and then constantly poke your head out of the bush and walk at the enemy adc or the janna for a second. The goal of this is to put them on edge, give them something to worry about. A matchup like that vs an opponent who knows how to cancel your rell w is a skill match up and thus you need to jockey for positioning and try to bait out her tornado.
It's similar to playing thresh vs leona. That's a skill matchup that does slightly favor the thresh because of his flay (E) being able to cancel leona E. Similarly is something like blitz vs morgana. While morg does technically hard counter blitz it is still possible to win lane, it's just significantly harder and involves a lot of jockeying for position, abusing lane brushes with sweeper and in combination with your ADC trying to force out Morg E through good poke and trades.
The best solution is to change role to mid/top/jungle
So this problem is mostly solved by ADC actually communicating to Support what they want the lane to play like. Woah! ADCs can’t do that, it’s blasphemy!
Cool, now teach me how to find coordinate of my teammate ? ask for a friend.