Is it possible to carry a game where you get outscaled and have 4 people super behind and being like 2/2 yourself? Also what do you do if your support is running it down by jumping into the fight as a mage and won't listen?
This Lulu is actually gigabrained. She knew the enemy bot lane would be baited into a bad fight if she pushed the wave and left it in a bad spot for Ezreal. She’s already 10 steps ahead of the enemies
If you have a higher statistical probability of losing the game when playing a traditional ADC, and your chances of winning are higher by playing a fighter (like Yasuo, Pantheon, Dr. Mundo, etc.), then wouldn't it make more sense to not play ADC and save yourself the headache?
Support main: Honestly the segment of playing to your partner's strengths and playstyle (whether you are supp or adc) is the most underrated advice on youtube. Maybe it's not the flashiest example for this kind of video, but it deserves a video of itself. Back in season 9 I climbed from Gold IV to Diamond 3 in 2 months basically following this principle. I was confident I already had decent fundamentals and game knowledge, but coin flipped too many games by being too focused on playing the game "the right way" and complained about "bad adcs". Then I started really playing the botlane the way it's meant to be played, as a lane you share with someone else. You ADCs, and supports watching, will definitely spend part of lane phase studying your opponents, seeing how they react to your trades, and finding patterns to land your skillshots. Study your own Support and ADC the same way, and play accordingly. Be patient. This doesn't mean that you will always stomp lane like this, but it will make it easier to do so. In lanes where you don't manage to get a lead, it will certainly minimize damage and save you from catastrophic consequences. Think about it: will forcing "the right play" as if you're following a textbook, work out if your partner doesn't know that is the right play and doesn't know how to execute it? Knowing you should engage because you would win the fight doesn't mean you should do it if your partner isn't fighting with you. That is the definition of autopilot. Be patient. Remember that as an ADC, as you have little agency early on, the most important thing you can do is to FARM. Everything else is a bonus. If your support is "bad", adapt to their style by applying good fundamentals and make sure you are farming and not falling behind. As a support, remember that your game isn't made or broken in botlane. If your ADC is "bad", apply good fundamentals to wave control to look for roams and to help your jungler. If you remain patient, you will ensure you will never miss your window to carry the game. You have been waiting for it all along, it cannot catch you off guard. You will not miss your shot. BE PATIENT, GODDAMNIT. You will be un-tiltable, my friend. That is how you climb.
The question I am asking myself is weather objectives were as impactful as they are now at the times you describe. Today you can't really be just patient and wait. If you spend the first 20 minutes to farm and and get groving the enemy team might aswell already have 2 dragons and 1 herald. You simply don't have the time in a so fast paced game as league is nowadays to patiently do things sadly. You still have to adjust to your lane partner but you won't get many time/chances to do which is why duoQ is performing waaay better
I'm still readjusting, as I've just come back to the game after a long time, so I'm unable to compare the value of objectives appropriately. I was talking more about lane phase, however. ADCs have much fewer options, and you are right about that, you cannot wait indefinitely. There is almost nothing you can do about early heralds, but there actually is a fair amount you can do about dragons. The advice to be patient and farm, even with a useless support, is primarily so that you are healthy and in lane so that you can control the wave. Get prio to those dragon fights and position and space accordingly. ADC is a role that FEELS like you are entirely dependent on your team's performance, but when it comes to teamfights your role is literally made for that. But staying healthy and farmed and, most importantly, IN LANE when you need to be, is going to immensely facilitate you coming up big for your team even with a useless support. You won't be able to do this every game, of course. If your Lulu is carving her name on your tower for 15 minutes, while you are being blasted by Ezreal and Xerath, you will have little agency over the wave. But that's where I suggest patience. Playing ADC requires an immense amount of patience (and so does Support to be honest). If you focus only on what you can do on the moment, rather than on what you could hypothetically be doing in a perfect world, you will never fail when the spotlight is on you. Don't succumb to outcome bias, focus on yourself, and think critically of what the enemy is doing and what your lane partner is doing so that you can act accordingly. Honestly I only wrote the original comment precisely because that's what helped me climb. I didn't have 100% winrate, but in the games where I maintained that attitude and focus, I damn near won all of them. I honestly think that's the hardest part of league of legends, even harder than dealing with terrible teammates.
That is the best advice ever ! I've always thought i was doing "good" by following support guides videos, but in games, i noticed my ADCs didnt all have the knowledge... For example, all-ins with lvl 2 advantage doesn't work everytime 🌝 I have to admit i was in auto pilote 😭 From now, i'm going pay attention to my mate behaviour and ennemies reactions ! Ty ❤️
@@mylynguyen6512 ❤ I hope it helps in your games. Remember you can still help elsewhere if you recognize that your ADC is beyond help. Just make sure they can still farm and cannot be dove. Or, if you are sacrificing them to a dive, that you are getting something done elsewhere. They are still a part of the team and you will need them to not be too behind (or worst: tilted) later on Good luck!
I really loved this video because even do it shows some knowledge of league it mainly focuses on the psychological aspect of the game. Today I actually play two games in a row where my adcs were playing horrible but both were hyper carries, so I just did my best to help them recover and even do our laning phase suck, we were able to end up winning because we didn’t flame each other and at the end they just scale better than the other adc. One trick I was taught a long time ago by my coach is that when you die a few times in a row you can say that its not your game anymore and instead imagine that for some reason someone let you play for them. If you really focus on that, your mindset can change from “Oh no what do I do carry the game” to “I´m going to do my best and if it´s not enough its okay”. The second one might not be a perfect formula to win by itself, but it will increase your chances by releasing you from all that pressure and letting you think more clearly.
As a support main who usually watches vids on how to handle bad ADCs, this was extremely insightful on how my ADC sees me and what expectations they have.
I played a game against 3 assassins on the enemy team, and I had picked Ashe. But I took bone plating and overgrowth in my runes, and I built immortal shieldbow. You should have seen how confused the fizz was after his full combo didn't kill me. You can change your build instead of changing your champ to melee bruiser!!
Ye i almost always take shieldbow as well on Tristana, it's not a recommended build, but most often AD assassins (yi, nocturne, talon) are so fed u need the shieldbow ! However if the assassin is AP, you can look to build Maw of Malmorthius+kracken, instead of shieldbow, it gives you more damage, attack speed, and tankiness than shieldbow if you are facing AP champions!
I’ve done this with Xayah, rushing Shieldbow, against a full AP bot lane with Karthus jungle. It worked so well to help us not feed hard mid game which was enough for us to eventually win the game. Took nullifying orb and gathering storm and also bought a stopwatch at some point lol
i agree with alot of this but, you forgot to add what happens when mid/jungle/top int so hard its a turbo loss, like sure itemization helps preventing you from being 1 shotted but there's always a trade-off for damage. So higher-elo games you get punished wayyyy faster and have a lot less opportunities for carrying a game. You brought up the fact that ADC's pay for others mistakes and i love u for it
14:05 One thing you didn't told was that Hector was going to recall (He was backing off) when he saw Hacarin bot, them he pushed into one more wave and took his camps
14:56 Trying to suggest Jax bot lane in low elo without admitting it will absolutely tilt your team every time is the most clinically insane thing I’ve ever heard. My duo gets flamed for picking Ashe support, and that’s not even that far off meta.
Exactly what I was thinking. Your team will think you're trolling. Plus, do you really want to limit the range of your team that hard? I think it's better to change the item build of an adc champion than to pick a melee bruiser.
In my experience they only start really committing to tilting if you get killed 1-2+ times. As soon as you get 1 or 2 kills everyone suddenly gets silent.
The thing about playing with your support and all makes sense, but what if your support tilts and either 1. refuse to play lane (perma roams), or 2. just keep going in and feeding?
ff? what is the point of your question "what should i do if my jungler feeds draven 5 kills in 5 minutes and my mid goes afk to walk his dog" you open mid. that's what you do. You aren't going to win every game in your elo because you aren't diamond, climbing doesn't happen in a day and some games are unwinnable. that being said if your support is inting the only thing you can do is not int yourself, and probably give first turret so you can farm for free. i won so many games because i lost lane, enemy took turret then they got bored and started perma fighting while i racked up 9cs/min and did twice their damage in teamfights
@@Natteboss it actually mainly applies to when your support actually left, if he's still there it's possible you can avoid getting perma shoved and might be able to minimize but if it's a tough lane you're gonna get perma sieged anyway so you cant do anything about it and never go 2v2 with a support you dont trust unless its 100% winnable, the thing about adc is that you can just minimize lane and scale and unless you tried to force random fights you will come back even if behind 40 cs
I actually really think that more ADCs should start running things other than not laners like you said. I pick up Karthus and Cho every once in a while, and it is actually disgusting how little other ADCs know how to lane against these champions
I know this comment was made 5 months ago, but I so agree with this lol. I pick up Malzahar sometimes (when there's not enough AP obv) and man, can I sustain in lane on my own. No one can literally approach me lmao
Had an autofilled ksante support turbo feeder in ranked yesterday. And another soraka who voted no to a 2minute afk vote to early surrender in ranked. The true adc experience.
0:37 yesterday, I kid you not, I literally had a bot as a support. It was awful. I was playing Xayah, and it just kept walking next to me, standing still there. Didn't buy a support item, didn't do anything really, except for the occasional heal (it was a Taric) and placing wards randomly next to them. Awful experience.
good video but you forgot about one huge problem in low elo.. the support bots (mostly yuumi but also taric, soraka, janna, annie). I wish you would have mentioned some tips for that also if riot see's that more bigger youtubers/streamers mention it, they get more pressure to finally care about this. because sooner or later this will have an impact on higher elos aswell.
@@spookyscarygraviton5944 funny thing is, I used to be a support main but I can't stand supporting the adc's here 🤣 but I realized that the bots mostly playing in the morning. Whatever for me it's not that important to climb anymore because I already was high Elo few years ago. I just enjoy playing ranked because in normals people don't play serious but with bots its not fun because most people are raging then going afk , int,.. And yeah It's just annoying 😅
@@spookyscarygraviton5944 seraphine doesn't have enough mana to carry lane, just play lux who is a million times more broken if you want a mage or nami if you want an enchanter. both can basically 1v2 the lane alone
@@biggiecheese2004 dont agree. Seraphine has very decent waveclear and isnt as reliant on hitting that 1 skillshot as lux. Their is a reason sera has been a top pick in the botlane for months. Especially as an apc
This video hit home so hard and unfortunately feels like this all the time. I'm not one of those people who think they're amazing mechanically, but I feel like I know what should be happening. These supports drive me crazy with how bad they play it just doesn't make sense. You don't have to be a god mechanically to climb you just have to have a brain.
I've been playing this game for 7 years now and this channel has helped me grow into a better player, but I have a question. From 2016-2018 I played a game that was a third person MOBA called paragon. It was very different from league in the beginning and then very similar towards the end when it got shut down. Recently there have been 2 very successful remakes that have been gaining traction and I was wondering, if those games lasted long enough and gained enough popularity, would proguides be willing to makes guides on a game like that? It's be cool to see how high level players attack the game from the mechanics of 3rd person
you haven't covered the most common type of support who thinks you they win early 2v2 and flame you if you didn't commit even if enemy has a huge advantage
This shit literally made me rage quite ADC. They're most likely mid laners who don't want the stress of playing mid so they go bot and try to carry or AKA make the ADC's job a living hell!! God forbid I farm or take quick trades instead of int into a losing fight (with most likely a weak engage)
I would add for the Lulu at the start, as a new player I have no idea what I’m doing in general and at first it’s bad that minions hurt tower yeah? I still make that mistake every so often but I’m still trying to learn. The community could stand to be understanding to new players but that hasn’t happened too often
Yes you are right. but this is about riot games matchmaking. As a Emerald, in 1 of the 3 games riot throwing unrankeds or first soloque players into my team and how can i stay chill idk.
@@kreiyh eh I mean, its not fun for me either lol. When I was still trying overwatch 2 the final nail for me was repeatedly getting a clear masters widowmaker enemy who demolished the entire team while I and my team were more along the same level. Just like you dont want to be paired with new players, we don't want to be paired with you. Not bc your bad at the game or anything but that having people crush you and having your team take their frustration out on you when you shouldnt be there in the first place makes you put the game down. I actually havent played LoL in a month and a half bc shortly after this comment I was put under so much stress, the game was actively bad for me to keep playing, and it was literally bc I was thrown into lobbies with people I shouldnt have been, and they took it out on me. By all rights, tear Riot a new asshole for their matchmaking, but please have at least a little consideration for the new players who got with you accidentally.
Yup, bot lane is always seen as 1 whole with your support, if your bot lane gets destroyed because the enemy support harasses you to shit whilst your support fails to make anything work, you are doomed, if your jungler then proceeds to ignore your lane in favour of other lanes that just don't know how to carry it's double doomed. Don't get me started when the enemy mid decides to roam bot while your midlaner just stays mid. ADC is the most ungrateful role.
I feel Like I know all the stuff you say. i am a former Grandmaster player but I am Stuck in Low Diamond currently because of my mental. I feel Like having a good mental is so underrated. I tilt. I Take Trades I know I shouldnt Take. I overextend when I know that their Jungle is likely near by etc. Using summoners Out of Frustration, typing a Lot.... How do you actually improve that? The mental aspect is rarely covered with your Videos. All the theory doesn't Matter if your mind isnt in a good state. How do you improve that? EDIT: You can make the best Guides but none of that Matters If your viewers Don't know how to Deal with the mental Stress In the Game. U should Cover that. You literally have viewers that watch your content For 3 years+ that have mental stress and are Not in the best conditiins to Play ranked.. ..can you Help Them so they can improve their Performance? What about the non ingame related stuff (nutrition, sleep etc) A Viewer that subbed to you 3 years ago... Almost knows all the stuff you say. Time to Upgrade Ur content
Yo my man, I peaked D1 as adc and was 1 game away in promos to get to masters in season 7 or 8. I quit and came back again this season and I haven't had a worst time in my life playing adc. I'm actually hard stuck in platinum, my mmr fuked up playing with a fizz that doesn't know what kindred ult does and me just getting triggered at being left 2v1 with a smite support or one that doesn't help me at all at any stage of the game. I am also feeling that it's mostly due to my mental. I'm typing alot because it just feels so bad the amount of BS an adc has to face.
Best thing I can suggest is disabling chat - you don't need it to communicate! Pings are more than enough and if someone isn't using them properly just mute them individually. If you still have the urge to spam ping or type, send messages with chat disabled and they won't actually be sent. It's like writing an angry email and deleting it; nobody else gets tilted and you get to vent out your frustration.
That's why professional players have team quarters, cooks, coaches, sleep schedules, etc., and even physical exercises mandated. You have to be comfortable with yourself to get into the right mental state. Set a time window in the day specifically for playing 3 to 5 ranked games, include pauses in between games to cool down, maybe analyse mistakes and prepare for next game. Don't play more games than you set out to, and instead invest that time in finding a healthy diet that works for you, exercising, talking with friends, or doing other things that have nothing to do with league. Keep your goals relatively low, not too low, think in weekly goals. Every weekend you can see progress, and if there was none or little, don't get mad about it, there is still next week.
in low elo people can either play garen with galeforce or kayn top or maybe fiddlesticks top and yasuo mid. Then you lose this game because the enemy team have 1million mastery kata on mid and yasuo who is an iron player with his average win rate 30%. After that you want to try your luck for another game where you are bot or mid to cover the skill gap between your average teammates on bronze or silver. But then you realize that your kayn is 3/10 in 10 minutes and bot lane is screaming bcs of Kayn and supp diff. Every game on low elo is hell you will almost never be satisfied by your own teammates and pisses me off , bcs it feels like you have to bleed to win one game sometimes. This is not the case for higher elo players where you get normal and experienced players based on your skills and rank. And most importantly players who are able to follow simple commands and acting reasonable using strategy to win a trade and not just dogfights
There's plenty adc champs that can safely scale up ezreal, kaisa and xayah work well into full dive teams just don't be to stuborn to buy a defensive item. There's nothing better than getting focused by an assasin who just instantly dies while doing 60% of your health because you got him tied up in anathema's chains. Adapting your build so you can survive the threaths you can't dodge is essential to playing adc. All 3 off those can be first picked even if they are not optimal in all matchups, that's just how getting first pick works sadly. I've had games where I build both anathema's chains and randuins omen. Or galeforce, murcs, wits end, BT, wich allowed me to facetank the entire enemy magic damage team.
I’ve about giving up on support in gold elo. I main Alistar and every adc just perma pushes to turret. I’d love to hold midlane or in front of our turret and spoon feed them kills, but they just aren’t willing to cooperate.
Adc mains also feel siper entitled to stuff to. (Gm support/ad/jg player) got my ADC smurf to master finally. I get so mad when my supports play bad since I'm a 6 year support main lol great advice tho really gotta remind myself to not tilt
This is daily average support on league and they will type you are trash and they will start roaming. They literally do not know the ABC-s of laning phase
I was thinking about the at 11:00 (in the video) that cait should let the wave crash into turretand create a slow push by last hitting with 3 turret autos on melee and 2 turret autos on ranged the game timer is 5:30 which means next wave is a cannon wave and talon will hit level 6 on the next wave, she can crash 3 waves at once with a huge slow push and tower dive with her jungler and mid laner. even if Jhin didn't die and crashed the wave he should still die within the next 3 waves???
it's just more difficult than the other roles but you can climb with it, I've been climbing from silver to plat with 80% wr with some of my main champs, it took me like 100 games and analyzing some of my games after every session to get consistent wins tho, you can probably get faster results in other roles
Yeea this is why I switched roles. Ofc I could try to learn how to deal with all kinds of supports and match their skill level and all that. But to me that sounds like a very bad time. I want to focus on improving my own skills, not trying to decipher what my support can or cannot do.
Sorry but i see so many mistakes in your explanation of what the Caitlyn should've done...i mean take 12:20 for example...why would they pressure a blitzcrank match up under turret where they are most vulnerable...
im a support and the other day in reanked my adc decided to also pick up smite and be a second jungler and before u think one of them is a bot, nah both of them were real people who engaged in conversation in the chat. this rogua adc proceeded to call both our top lane and actual jungle braindead...
Well the answer to that question is you get a trash support or a bot support in low elo, I got a varus for a support that didn't land a single q, I got a yuumi for a support (that was a bot) followed me and latched onto me as long as I was alive and never did anything besides that or bad team comps (it normally isn't this as long as the support knows what they are doing)
Nice catch but in the first clip cait will heal from hp regen + dorans blade while jhin is still dead, so she probably was nearly full hp by the time jhin got back
even after watching all these videos for years, its still a coinflip on what im supposed to do. everytime u ask the viewer "whats this champ supposed to do now" is literally a coinflip...but the problem is both sides of the coin is the wrong choice and what i should have got is the coin landing on the 3rd side, the rim. i really dont understand fuck about shit. i feel like info is being left out. honestly this is prolly the answer lol
Oh really I thought it was because every game I got a sona support that sat behind me and refused to block skillshots or heal. Oh I guess I was mistaken!
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Is it possible to carry a game where you get outscaled and have 4 people super behind and being like 2/2 yourself? Also what do you do if your support is running it down by jumping into the fight as a mage and won't listen?
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This Lulu is actually gigabrained. She knew the enemy bot lane would be baited into a bad fight if she pushed the wave and left it in a bad spot for Ezreal. She’s already 10 steps ahead of the enemies
lulus braim is too big for us to comprehend
Small body, big brain
Ah yes, the "set up freeze for opponent then recall" outplay. Textbook 👏👏
"if my support is this bad, then the enemy supp isnt much better. " wtf is this shit game, thats not how this works
this is 5 months old but as soon as i heard this i stopped paying attention LOL@@EProgidy
I love tip #6.. if the enemy team looks like hell, just dont play an adc. OH BOY. why have i never thought of that
If you have a higher statistical probability of losing the game when playing a traditional ADC, and your chances of winning are higher by playing a fighter (like Yasuo, Pantheon, Dr. Mundo, etc.), then wouldn't it make more sense to not play ADC and save yourself the headache?
@@MastaPhil666 No bc you expect to face someone with honor, adc vs adc
@@ViperliciousOG A shinobi would know the difference between honor and victory.
@@ViperliciousOG There is no honor in this game, I thought all the seasons of abusing OP items / Champs would've shown you that by now
Beo you make it sound stupid 😂😂😂
Hearing. Dan commentate for hector while hector plays Ezreal makes it even funnier because it just sounds like new Ezreal voice lines.
Support main:
Honestly the segment of playing to your partner's strengths and playstyle (whether you are supp or adc) is the most underrated advice on youtube. Maybe it's not the flashiest example for this kind of video, but it deserves a video of itself.
Back in season 9 I climbed from Gold IV to Diamond 3 in 2 months basically following this principle. I was confident I already had decent fundamentals and game knowledge, but coin flipped too many games by being too focused on playing the game "the right way" and complained about "bad adcs".
Then I started really playing the botlane the way it's meant to be played, as a lane you share with someone else.
You ADCs, and supports watching, will definitely spend part of lane phase studying your opponents, seeing how they react to your trades, and finding patterns to land your skillshots.
Study your own Support and ADC the same way, and play accordingly.
Be patient.
This doesn't mean that you will always stomp lane like this, but it will make it easier to do so. In lanes where you don't manage to get a lead, it will certainly minimize damage and save you from catastrophic consequences. Think about it: will forcing "the right play" as if you're following a textbook, work out if your partner doesn't know that is the right play and doesn't know how to execute it? Knowing you should engage because you would win the fight doesn't mean you should do it if your partner isn't fighting with you. That is the definition of autopilot.
Be patient.
Remember that as an ADC, as you have little agency early on, the most important thing you can do is to FARM. Everything else is a bonus. If your support is "bad", adapt to their style by applying good fundamentals and make sure you are farming and not falling behind.
As a support, remember that your game isn't made or broken in botlane. If your ADC is "bad", apply good fundamentals to wave control to look for roams and to help your jungler.
If you remain patient, you will ensure you will never miss your window to carry the game. You have been waiting for it all along, it cannot catch you off guard. You will not miss your shot.
BE PATIENT, GODDAMNIT.
You will be un-tiltable, my friend. That is how you climb.
Really nice 👍🏻
The question I am asking myself is weather objectives were as impactful as they are now at the times you describe.
Today you can't really be just patient and wait. If you spend the first 20 minutes to farm and and get groving the enemy team might aswell already have 2 dragons and 1 herald.
You simply don't have the time in a so fast paced game as league is nowadays to patiently do things sadly.
You still have to adjust to your lane partner but you won't get many time/chances to do which is why duoQ is performing waaay better
I'm still readjusting, as I've just come back to the game after a long time, so I'm unable to compare the value of objectives appropriately.
I was talking more about lane phase, however.
ADCs have much fewer options, and you are right about that, you cannot wait indefinitely. There is almost nothing you can do about early heralds, but there actually is a fair amount you can do about dragons.
The advice to be patient and farm, even with a useless support, is primarily so that you are healthy and in lane so that you can control the wave. Get prio to those dragon fights and position and space accordingly.
ADC is a role that FEELS like you are entirely dependent on your team's performance, but when it comes to teamfights your role is literally made for that.
But staying healthy and farmed and, most importantly, IN LANE when you need to be, is going to immensely facilitate you coming up big for your team even with a useless support.
You won't be able to do this every game, of course. If your Lulu is carving her name on your tower for 15 minutes, while you are being blasted by Ezreal and Xerath, you will have little agency over the wave.
But that's where I suggest patience. Playing ADC requires an immense amount of patience (and so does Support to be honest).
If you focus only on what you can do on the moment, rather than on what you could hypothetically be doing in a perfect world, you will never fail when the spotlight is on you.
Don't succumb to outcome bias, focus on yourself, and think critically of what the enemy is doing and what your lane partner is doing so that you can act accordingly.
Honestly I only wrote the original comment precisely because that's what helped me climb. I didn't have 100% winrate, but in the games where I maintained that attitude and focus, I damn near won all of them. I honestly think that's the hardest part of league of legends, even harder than dealing with terrible teammates.
That is the best advice ever !
I've always thought i was doing "good" by following support guides videos, but in games, i noticed my ADCs didnt all have the knowledge... For example, all-ins with lvl 2 advantage doesn't work everytime 🌝
I have to admit i was in auto pilote 😭
From now, i'm going pay attention to my mate behaviour and ennemies reactions ! Ty ❤️
@@mylynguyen6512 ❤ I hope it helps in your games. Remember you can still help elsewhere if you recognize that your ADC is beyond help. Just make sure they can still farm and cannot be dove. Or, if you are sacrificing them to a dive, that you are getting something done elsewhere.
They are still a part of the team and you will need them to not be too behind (or worst: tilted) later on
Good luck!
I really loved this video because even do it shows some knowledge of league it mainly focuses on the psychological aspect of the game. Today I actually play two games in a row where my adcs were playing horrible but both were hyper carries, so I just did my best to help them recover and even do our laning phase suck, we were able to end up winning because we didn’t flame each other and at the end they just scale better than the other adc. One trick I was taught a long time ago by my coach is that when you die a few times in a row you can say that its not your game anymore and instead imagine that for some reason someone let you play for them. If you really focus on that, your mindset can change from “Oh no what do I do carry the game” to “I´m going to do my best and if it´s not enough its okay”. The second one might not be a perfect formula to win by itself, but it will increase your chances by releasing you from all that pressure and letting you think more clearly.
That's a great way to think about it, thanks for posting this!
As a support main who usually watches vids on how to handle bad ADCs, this was extremely insightful on how my ADC sees me and what expectations they have.
When I saw Lulu push that wave I literally developed stage 4 cancer while a part of me died.
Based on a true story. A Hector story.
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Sheeeeeeeiiiit! Relax my man. You're taking this game way too seriously.
@@sheeeit7730 it was meant to be taken with humor tho. You could say it was a joke
I played a game against 3 assassins on the enemy team, and I had picked Ashe. But I took bone plating and overgrowth in my runes, and I built immortal shieldbow. You should have seen how confused the fizz was after his full combo didn't kill me. You can change your build instead of changing your champ to melee bruiser!!
Ye i almost always take shieldbow as well on Tristana, it's not a recommended build, but most often AD assassins (yi, nocturne, talon) are so fed u need the shieldbow !
However if the assassin is AP, you can look to build Maw of Malmorthius+kracken, instead of shieldbow, it gives you more damage, attack speed, and tankiness than shieldbow if you are facing AP champions!
I’ve done this with Xayah, rushing Shieldbow, against a full AP bot lane with Karthus jungle. It worked so well to help us not feed hard mid game which was enough for us to eventually win the game. Took nullifying orb and gathering storm and also bought a stopwatch at some point lol
i agree with alot of this but, you forgot to add what happens when mid/jungle/top int so hard its a turbo loss, like sure itemization helps preventing you from being 1 shotted but there's always a trade-off for damage. So higher-elo games you get punished wayyyy faster and have a lot less opportunities for carrying a game.
You brought up the fact that ADC's pay for others mistakes and i love u for it
I mean most of the time in that case it’s not really a winnable game unless you do really well in lane. Some games you will lose it’s just how it is.
Hidden tip: already be Challenger. GG
Thanks! I climbed 10 divisions with this piece of advice.
Great Coaching. Do I owe you 350$?
6:36 "Play off what they can do, instead of focusing too much on what the optimal play would be." Needed that put into words, thanks.
18:04 I love how the timing is perfect with the voice over saying "it's not mechanics" and we see Vayne jump cancel a diver at that very moment xD
14:05 One thing you didn't told was that Hector was going to recall (He was backing off) when he saw Hacarin bot, them he pushed into one more wave and took his camps
Never has a role required so much mental fortitude.
0:56 I didn't know Doaenel got a job as a skillcapped coach
Best tips I've ever heard for adcs. Your guides are a blessing!
Hector: keeps cool
Also Hector: Tilted by his poor performance
I would highly appreciate it if you made a guide about mage supports
14:56 Trying to suggest Jax bot lane in low elo without admitting it will absolutely tilt your team every time is the most clinically insane thing I’ve ever heard. My duo gets flamed for picking Ashe support, and that’s not even that far off meta.
Exactly what I was thinking. Your team will think you're trolling. Plus, do you really want to limit the range of your team that hard? I think it's better to change the item build of an adc champion than to pick a melee bruiser.
In my experience they only start really committing to tilting if you get killed 1-2+ times. As soon as you get 1 or 2 kills everyone suddenly gets silent.
The thing about playing with your support and all makes sense, but what if your support tilts and either 1. refuse to play lane (perma roams), or 2. just keep going in and feeding?
or steals farm intentionally because that's fun
@@mirciap6833 Exactly
ff? what is the point of your question "what should i do if my jungler feeds draven 5 kills in 5 minutes and my mid goes afk to walk his dog" you open mid. that's what you do. You aren't going to win every game in your elo because you aren't diamond, climbing doesn't happen in a day and some games are unwinnable. that being said if your support is inting the only thing you can do is not int yourself, and probably give first turret so you can farm for free. i won so many games because i lost lane, enemy took turret then they got bored and started perma fighting while i racked up 9cs/min and did twice their damage in teamfights
@@lefroste6370 same principle if your support decides to be a second jungler as well? As in you give first turret and cope?
@@Natteboss it actually mainly applies to when your support actually left, if he's still there it's possible you can avoid getting perma shoved and might be able to minimize but if it's a tough lane you're gonna get perma sieged anyway so you cant do anything about it and never go 2v2 with a support you dont trust unless its 100% winnable, the thing about adc is that you can just minimize lane and scale and unless you tried to force random fights you will come back even if behind 40 cs
Well this video made me feel way better about my last few ranked matches as an adc
0:15 i needed to hear that so bad. I was about to give up the role
I actually really think that more ADCs should start running things other than not laners like you said. I pick up Karthus and Cho every once in a while, and it is actually disgusting how little other ADCs know how to lane against these champions
I know this comment was made 5 months ago, but I so agree with this lol. I pick up Malzahar sometimes (when there's not enough AP obv) and man, can I sustain in lane on my own. No one can literally approach me lmao
Had an autofilled ksante support turbo feeder in ranked yesterday. And another soraka who voted no to a 2minute afk vote to early surrender in ranked. The true adc experience.
Perfect commentary its like ezreal is the one speaking
0:37 yesterday, I kid you not, I literally had a bot as a support. It was awful. I was playing Xayah, and it just kept walking next to me, standing still there. Didn't buy a support item, didn't do anything really, except for the occasional heal (it was a Taric) and placing wards randomly next to them. Awful experience.
I like the flavor Ez has been adding to these guides lately 👍
good video but you forgot about one huge problem in low elo.. the support bots (mostly yuumi but also taric, soraka, janna, annie). I wish you would have mentioned some tips for that also if riot see's that more bigger youtubers/streamers mention it, they get more pressure to finally care about this. because sooner or later this will have an impact on higher elos aswell.
There's no bots in silver, so:
1) play support
2) get out of bronze
3) ???
4) profit
Literally, just spam seraphine and climb with no effort
@@spookyscarygraviton5944 funny thing is, I used to be a support main but I can't stand supporting the adc's here 🤣 but I realized that the bots mostly playing in the morning. Whatever for me it's not that important to climb anymore because I already was high Elo few years ago. I just enjoy playing ranked because in normals people don't play serious but with bots its not fun because most people are raging then going afk , int,.. And yeah It's just annoying 😅
@@spookyscarygraviton5944 seraphine doesn't have enough mana to carry lane, just play lux who is a million times more broken if you want a mage or nami if you want an enchanter. both can basically 1v2 the lane alone
@@biggiecheese2004 nah, I'm having no mana issues. Sera is more safer, aim-forgiving and gives way more teamfight utility than lux
@@biggiecheese2004 dont agree. Seraphine has very decent waveclear and isnt as reliant on hitting that 1 skillshot as lux. Their is a reason sera has been a top pick in the botlane for months. Especially as an apc
as addition to tip 6 I find pantheon on adc position doing quite well
This video hit home so hard and unfortunately feels like this all the time. I'm not one of those people who think they're amazing mechanically, but I feel like I know what should be happening. These supports drive me crazy with how bad they play it just doesn't make sense. You don't have to be a god mechanically to climb you just have to have a brain.
After watching a couple of films i was demoted from Plat 2 to Plat 4. Thanks
Lmao Ezreal's VA fits this video perfectly 😂 it looks like we are hearing livr commentary from the ingame Ezreal while he plays
I really need a guide to "why can't you play any other lane"...
Even trying to follow the guides I can't play any lane...
IDK, maybe because if you try top lane you will probably quit the game and they will lose a customer ^^
Have you tried committing to any one lane and really learning the basics? If all else fails, there is still j u n g l e
4:15 i disagree quite often if your support makes mistakes they make BIG MISTAKES meaning they quite often int alot making lane impossible.
I've been playing this game for 7 years now and this channel has helped me grow into a better player, but I have a question. From 2016-2018 I played a game that was a third person MOBA called paragon. It was very different from league in the beginning and then very similar towards the end when it got shut down. Recently there have been 2 very successful remakes that have been gaining traction and I was wondering, if those games lasted long enough and gained enough popularity, would proguides be willing to makes guides on a game like that? It's be cool to see how high level players attack the game from the mechanics of 3rd person
Wow Im actually in a skill Capped video haha. Im the Zilean!
you haven't covered the most common type of support who thinks you they win early 2v2 and flame you if you didn't commit even if enemy has a huge advantage
This shit literally made me rage quite ADC. They're most likely mid laners who don't want the stress of playing mid so they go bot and try to carry or AKA make the ADC's job a living hell!! God forbid I farm or take quick trades instead of int into a losing fight (with most likely a weak engage)
staying chill? fuck, i was doomed from birth.
Watching this as a support just so I get some tips on how to help more
This is why Senna support is so nice. You can literally pick anything with her, melee/mage/adc, and it will work well
I would add for the Lulu at the start, as a new player I have no idea what I’m doing in general and at first it’s bad that minions hurt tower yeah? I still make that mistake every so often but I’m still trying to learn.
The community could stand to be understanding to new players but that hasn’t happened too often
Yes you are right. but this is about riot games matchmaking. As a Emerald, in 1 of the 3 games riot throwing unrankeds or first soloque players into my team and how can i stay chill idk.
@@kreiyh eh I mean, its not fun for me either lol. When I was still trying overwatch 2 the final nail for me was repeatedly getting a clear masters widowmaker enemy who demolished the entire team while I and my team were more along the same level.
Just like you dont want to be paired with new players, we don't want to be paired with you. Not bc your bad at the game or anything but that having people crush you and having your team take their frustration out on you when you shouldnt be there in the first place makes you put the game down.
I actually havent played LoL in a month and a half bc shortly after this comment I was put under so much stress, the game was actively bad for me to keep playing, and it was literally bc I was thrown into lobbies with people I shouldnt have been, and they took it out on me. By all rights, tear Riot a new asshole for their matchmaking, but please have at least a little consideration for the new players who got with you accidentally.
@3:33, imagine if lulu just chilled at the back. the video would be different.
the Lulu saying "noobs pwned!!" in chat is amazing.
Lulu dropping "noobs pwned!!!" in allchat after the 1 for 2 at the start... I can't hate the goofy little shit, they're too precious
Man this video makes me wanna leave support role and go adc 😂😂😂😂
Great videos keep up the good work
No matter how trash the supp is, adc will always get the blame from their team mates
Yup, bot lane is always seen as 1 whole with your support, if your bot lane gets destroyed because the enemy support harasses you to shit whilst your support fails to make anything work, you are doomed, if your jungler then proceeds to ignore your lane in favour of other lanes that just don't know how to carry it's double doomed. Don't get me started when the enemy mid decides to roam bot while your midlaner just stays mid. ADC is the most ungrateful role.
@@hornet-h3v Yep, and they wonder why adc players get tilted lol
what do u do with a sup who does the best to take the kills?
i never take cleanse because i never remember i got it. same with zonyas. ill always push d thinking im gonna heal.
I feel Like I know all the stuff you say. i am a former Grandmaster player but I am Stuck in Low Diamond currently because of my mental. I feel Like having a good mental is so underrated. I tilt. I Take Trades I know I shouldnt Take. I overextend when I know that their Jungle is likely near by etc. Using summoners Out of Frustration, typing a Lot....
How do you actually improve that?
The mental aspect is rarely covered with your Videos.
All the theory doesn't Matter if your mind isnt in a good state. How do you improve that?
EDIT: You can make the best Guides but none of that Matters If your viewers Don't know how to Deal with the mental Stress In the Game. U should Cover that.
You literally have viewers that watch your content For 3 years+ that have mental stress and are Not in the best conditiins to Play ranked.. ..can you Help Them so they can improve their Performance?
What about the non ingame related stuff (nutrition, sleep etc) A Viewer that subbed to you 3 years ago... Almost knows all the stuff you say. Time to Upgrade Ur content
Yo my man, I peaked D1 as adc and was 1 game away in promos to get to masters in season 7 or 8. I quit and came back again this season and I haven't had a worst time in my life playing adc. I'm actually hard stuck in platinum, my mmr fuked up playing with a fizz that doesn't know what kindred ult does and me just getting triggered at being left 2v1 with a smite support or one that doesn't help me at all at any stage of the game.
I am also feeling that it's mostly due to my mental. I'm typing alot because it just feels so bad the amount of BS an adc has to face.
I feel like the best way for that is to have it so everyone is muted when you’re in game. It gives u less of a chance to tilt.
Best thing I can suggest is disabling chat - you don't need it to communicate! Pings are more than enough and if someone isn't using them properly just mute them individually.
If you still have the urge to spam ping or type, send messages with chat disabled and they won't actually be sent. It's like writing an angry email and deleting it; nobody else gets tilted and you get to vent out your frustration.
just roleswap mid and play ADCs there. Best decision I've ever made for my mental
That's why professional players have team quarters, cooks, coaches, sleep schedules, etc., and even physical exercises mandated.
You have to be comfortable with yourself to get into the right mental state. Set a time window in the day specifically for playing 3 to 5 ranked games, include pauses in between games to cool down, maybe analyse mistakes and prepare for next game. Don't play more games than you set out to, and instead invest that time in finding a healthy diet that works for you, exercising, talking with friends, or doing other things that have nothing to do with league. Keep your goals relatively low, not too low, think in weekly goals. Every weekend you can see progress, and if there was none or little, don't get mad about it, there is still next week.
"if you are always better than the other adc in your elo, then you will eventually climb" wish that was true
"He didn't just spam ? ping on the Lulu, which could have ended up tilting the support...." Ohhhhhh, just gained 300LP!
in low elo people can either play garen with galeforce or kayn top or maybe fiddlesticks top and yasuo mid. Then you lose this game because the enemy team have 1million mastery kata on mid and yasuo who is an iron player with his average win rate 30%. After that you want to try your luck for another game where you are bot or mid to cover the skill gap between your average teammates on bronze or silver. But then you realize that your kayn is 3/10 in 10 minutes and bot lane is screaming bcs of Kayn and supp diff. Every game on low elo is hell you will almost never be satisfied by your own teammates and pisses me off , bcs it feels like you have to bleed to win one game sometimes. This is not the case for higher elo players where you get normal and experienced players based on your skills and rank. And most importantly players who are able to follow simple commands and acting reasonable using strategy to win a trade and not just dogfights
I'd like to play different stuff botlane, problem is when I'm first pick and THEN they pick 2-4 assassins or divers
There's plenty adc champs that can safely scale up ezreal, kaisa and xayah work well into full dive teams just don't be to stuborn to buy a defensive item. There's nothing better than getting focused by an assasin who just instantly dies while doing 60% of your health because you got him tied up in anathema's chains. Adapting your build so you can survive the threaths you can't dodge is essential to playing adc. All 3 off those can be first picked even if they are not optimal in all matchups, that's just how getting first pick works sadly.
I've had games where I build both anathema's chains and randuins omen. Or galeforce, murcs, wits end, BT, wich allowed me to facetank the entire enemy magic damage team.
@@mayastic9570 I've done omen too. It makes a big difference. Went Kraken/pd/ie/bt/omen on ashe and their zed & rengar had a hard time.
I’ve about giving up on support in gold elo. I main Alistar and every adc just perma pushes to turret. I’d love to hold midlane or in front of our turret and spoon feed them kills, but they just aren’t willing to cooperate.
When Lulu backs at 2:55 she types "noobs pwned!!"
I think you forgot the fact that the enemy team are 50% duo laners right? It’s essentially always 2v1 in bot lane if don’t have a duo support
My support is either aurelion, viegar, teemo, brand, lux,... With dark harvest and hide behind me all the time in iron gameplay..
Adc mains also feel siper entitled to stuff to. (Gm support/ad/jg player) got my ADC smurf to master finally. I get so mad when my supports play bad since I'm a 6 year support main lol great advice tho really gotta remind myself to not tilt
The schedule of these releases make me feel like I'm targeted
Just a fun tip garen adc at one time was the most played adc in the lcs
9:10 love to see it. support flames adc only for sivir to 1v2 from recalling correctly 😆
Pantheon adc is a good pick if you want to steamroll over the right enemy bot lane, your W is 600 range so most adcs just die if they try to aa you.
Can I ask why you didnt flash after the rumble at 4:23 to secure the kill?
Rumble had nimbus cloak, flash doesnt reach
@@nuclearcrystal3636 tysm !
Haven't played this game in ages, searched "Adc in 2023" and in less than three minutes I remembered why I stopped playing lol.
What can I do to help me not go on auto pilot and think through the duration of the game?
Thank you, Ezreal!
This is daily average support on league and they will type you are trash and they will start roaming.
They literally do not know the ABC-s of laning phase
I was thinking about the at 11:00 (in the video) that cait should let the wave crash into turretand create a slow push by last hitting with 3 turret autos on melee and 2 turret autos on ranged the game timer is 5:30 which means next wave is a cannon wave and talon will hit level 6 on the next wave, she can crash 3 waves at once with a huge slow push and tower dive with her jungler and mid laner. even if Jhin didn't die and crashed the wave he should still die within the next 3 waves???
best way to climb as adc is play literally any other lane
No 💀 adc isnt a bad role, everyone saying that just sucks at the role
it's just more difficult than the other roles but you can climb with it, I've been climbing from silver to plat with 80% wr with some of my main champs, it took me like 100 games and analyzing some of my games after every session to get consistent wins tho, you can probably get faster results in other roles
@@philaplap3293 It is bad compared to other roles tho
@@philaplap3293 yeah well everyone who plays adc sucks at the role that's the point
Lol, ADC is an insanely good role
How to win a high school soccer game as Ronaldo: be Ronaldo
Yeea this is why I switched roles. Ofc I could try to learn how to deal with all kinds of supports and match their skill level and all that. But to me that sounds like a very bad time. I want to focus on improving my own skills, not trying to decipher what my support can or cannot do.
Extremely helpful vidd
This jax pick was just troll on so many lvls. There is no way it could work against varus pyke.
That lulu pushing the wave literally made me angry af
Nice cannon 6:10
Sorry but i see so many mistakes in your explanation of what the Caitlyn should've done...i mean take 12:20 for example...why would they pressure a blitzcrank match up under turret where they are most vulnerable...
You didn't listen at all, the keyword was minion advantage and not "shove to tower".
because everytime i rank up i get absolut mental psychos or boosted egirl 3 games in a row to halt my climb
im a support and the other day in reanked my adc decided to also pick up smite and be a second jungler and before u think one of them is a bot, nah both of them were real people who engaged in conversation in the chat. this rogua adc proceeded to call both our top lane and actual jungle braindead...
Me and my AD win every bot lane matchup but can't win the game against fed junglers and top lanes just constantly one shotting us
1:50 Hector just needed to Flash?????
He expected Lulu to do something. If she just aa rumble Ezreal wouldn't need to flash. But in this case you're right, Ezreal should have flashed
this is the best guide for adc I have ever seen 🎉
Well the answer to that question is you get a trash support or a bot support in low elo, I got a varus for a support that didn't land a single q, I got a yuumi for a support (that was a bot) followed me and latched onto me as long as I was alive and never did anything besides that or bad team comps (it normally isn't this as long as the support knows what they are doing)
I love Hector
Hector is a nice guy
We all love Hector
Usually I don't type to bash on my supp.... I tilt myself alone and join the apes squad... after all apes together strong 💪:D
Still waiting for a Jax enemy ADC to show up in my bot lane.
Tip 6 I already use. I play Wild Rift, and I will play Dr. Mundo in the duo lane, build full tank, and do more damage than a Caitlyn with 3 items.
Welp, time to play Sett adc in my Bronze games now.
the lower your elo, the better it works
what if my support only feeding
I cant help but hear Ezreal when the narrator is speaking T-T
He is the voice actor for Ezreal haha
Ezreal commentating Ezreal gameplay
I love how my main explains how to play his role. Tnx ezreal
11:20 “nearly full HP” vs 11:45 “half HP” are almost exactly the same lol
Nice catch but in the first clip cait will heal from hp regen + dorans blade while jhin is still dead, so she probably was nearly full hp by the time jhin got back
even after watching all these videos for years, its still a coinflip on what im supposed to do. everytime u ask the viewer "whats this champ supposed to do now" is literally a coinflip...but the problem is both sides of the coin is the wrong choice and what i should have got is the coin landing on the 3rd side, the rim. i really dont understand fuck about shit. i feel like info is being left out. honestly this is prolly the answer lol
5:30 same elo but not same age. 25 adc and 15 support. or other way around.
15:03 pick yasuo or soraka. tresh goes ad.
Oh really I thought it was because every game I got a sona support that sat behind me and refused to block skillshots or heal. Oh I guess I was mistaken!
it sounds like ezreal commentating his own game
Aaand after saving your mental, your mid feeds 0-5, and the enemy mid one-shots you and your support.
No thruth on LAN