Exactly! She was so pathetic and clingy. She could waited for the guy to ask... It's Paris. She could have insinuated she wanted she wanted to go... But no, she went psycho.
Becky Goodhair thing is... this show depicts many men in its entirety flesh and bone unfortunately. I mean, just look at the guy you replied this to, he thought it was pathetic and psychotic and clingy going out to proof the entire point of this episode. So after all it’s not just a show it’s real life.
Also Big could have just implied he wasn’t going to propose just because she moved (kind of like Charlotte expected proposal soon after she converted for Judaism and caused the fight between her and Harry).
Messylin do you even watch the show? There are many characters who are strong and hard working and confident like Miranda and Sam. It’s not stupid. It’s complex just like real life. And there’s a lot of nice messages in this show.
It’s because they view us as some manic pixie dream girls that should give them only joy and nothing else. The minute where we express dissatisfaction with how they behave and how they give us less than bare minimum, they get defensive and closed off because the most of them are incapable off any sort of self reflection.
@jazinegrrrl Perfect insight. To think she ends up with the guy. I get he's a fan favorite. Suave, debonair yada yada. But for him to go through such a major character transformation with only an affair as an altering arc, rings unrealistic to me. In the real world, Carrie would be his second ex wife.
Jessjess23 Brooks not necessarily so, in the real world, a man can be with a woman for years and still leave her and be engaged to a woman in months. It’s about that spark.
He was upfront from the beginning regarding what he was all about - Carrie tried numerous times to force the relationship that she wanted. They were both wrong.
Omg I am reading this theory in the comments and it blown my mind.. if he met Natasha already and later on married her... Oh no.. and Carrie she married this guy.. I don't know why but this is just...
I had someone like Big. I finally came to my senses and left him. It was the best thing I ever did, I know my worth and I’ll make the sure the man i marry someday knows it too.
Me too, it was during my teen years so I guess it was actually a “junior big”, but whatever. There’s no way you can fix people like him, you just need to run away.
No she isn't. You don't notice Carrie just sitting around waiting by the phone for him do you. That's what a doormat is. Carrie gets upset at him but she still does her writing and she goes out with her friends. Believe me I know what a doormat is from experience. Carrie has to much of a life to be a doormat. She should just tell Big where it can Big-it, if ya know what I mean.
When Carrie says that Big can't factor her into his life in any real way, it is such good acting! I really felt SJP's pain and frustration at the whole situation.
When he said “we’ll figure it out when I get back” is another example of him just stringing her along. He had no intention of working something out together to. And then says “wtf” and gaslit her when she was upset. Creep.
Well, that was before she called him in the middle of the night, hysterical and pushing things. Where she didn’t even give him a chance to do anything. He said MAYBE he would go to Paris and the work has something to do with it. And here comes her highness Carrie and DEMANDS that she decides there something, when it wasn’t even about her. These scene makes so much sense actually.
I never looked at the 2 of them and went ohhh how romantic everrrr. They were 2 adults who were supposedly worldly and sophisticated and experienced but their r/s seemed dysfunctional, a living breathing wreck. I felt there was no purity in the feelings they had for each other. It was just sex, fine dining, the occasional sleepover at each other's homes and a whole plethora of conflicts because of being on different pages. The only r/s in the 6 seasons I felt envious of was the one of Charlotte and Harry. The way she told him I dont care if you ever marry me I just wanna be with you and then he knelt to propose. That beats Carrie's moments with Big in expensive dresses inside expensive restaurants any day.
You forgot when miranda told steve she loved him in the laundry room. That beats charlotte's proposal moment in my opinion. I mean to hear those words coming from miranda... you KNOW she meant them. And then Steve just smiling and going- i love you too. I mean COME ON, it's *you* " sorry but even typing the scene out brings tears to my eyes let alone watching it. It was so pure, so genuine, so unexpected. In a fucking laundry room, no romantic setting, no marriage proposal, no streets of paris with the eiffel tower in the background(carrie's case in the last ep), just completely unplanned and heartfelt and i love that she had known for a long time but took a while to admit it so it was real from the start whether she knew it or not. Best moment in the whole show
Uhmmm only? No. You must be forgetting the moment when Smith shaved his head for Samantha during the peak of his career when she was going thru chemo therapy.
My God he really didn't like her at all did he. How on earth did the fans think it was a good idea for them to end up together? Imagine how crushed carrie must have felt after this. All he probably felt was relief
Big was always honest with Carrie, she just wouldn't get the hint. She thought he would change for her, that she'd turn him into a family man or something and because he wouldn't, she presented him like the bad guy. How many times had he shown her that she wasn't indeed "the one" and she constantly went back for more.
No he wasn't honest because he always gave her false hope stringing her along ... he must have told her straight but he was never ever honest, he was playing with carrie
YES! Everyone acted like Big was this horrible person for not wanting her to come to Paris, but realistically? He wasn’t wrong. Carrie would have uprooted her whole life to follow him to Paris for a year, and as we all saw in season 6, that is a terrible idea- she was miserable and lonely in Paris. And what pisses me off the most? Carrie literally led Aiden on two seasons later, to the point where she *accepted his marriage proposal* even though she did not actually want to marry him. And this was after cheating on him, too. And yet Big was somehow the problem? Yeah, I don’t think so. Carrie was a terrible girlfriend who made everything, even Big’s work obligations, about her.
Thank you! I was going to comment something like this, but you've said it. Big was always honest with Carrie: he found her interesting and wanted sex. He never made any indication of wanting a relationship. Carrie pushed and tried to get more personal. Big knrw Carrie was immature and emotionally unstable so he never wanted outright to tell her, "Look. I'm not into you". Big's only fault is that he should have cut off all ties with her to make it clear that he didn't want her.
I’m not sure if this was intentional but did anyone else notice that when Carrie says “This is about you being so freaked out that you have to put an ocean between us” they’re both standing at opposite ends of the kitchen island? it’s like the director was trying to emphasize with the setting that they’re physically and emotionally growing apart.
cirila dewi lanch oh well. Men act like this only because you allow them to. When you find someone that doesn’t respect you and treats you shitty you just have to let them go and move on. Clearly Big never really wanted a serious relationship with Carrie, yet she kept pushing and going back to him and trying to make it happen. She looked desperate to him and men don’t find desperate women attractive at all. So if someone doesn’t want you, have some self respect and let them go. Their loss. But what do I know huh
Eliza Bentley or how about Im a fan of Carrie who has Sense of humor and You are a Leftist hate monger who will die a virgin because the substance you are delussional eating up the remnants of your humanity.
Never in a million years a man like Big would have married a woman like Carrie... She's been sooooo desperate and needy and clingy all the series I couldn't bare it and no normal man ever would. The ending is a beautiful fairy tale which would have never happened in a real life. I love SATC but Carrie's behavior in relationships is way out of line.
She was not needy she was in love that's the difference all she wanted from him was to treat her with love and respect like any kind of relationship there's nothing wrong with that . whoever you are would you be happy if your husband or wife neglect you all the time and don't show any commitment? I don't think so
I thought I was the only one that thought that way. A lot of people felt like Big was an asshole and didn't care. But he was honestly just calm and collected about how he approached Carrie's behavior.
The reason he ended up with her is because he got older and realized he wanted to be with someone who loved him and nobody loved him the way Carrie did.
BULLSHIT. Narcissists like Big literally bring out the worst in you and can reduce the strongest of women to insecure little girls. It's crazymaking what they do to you
I love the detail when they're fighting and Carrie says "You're so freaked out you have to put an ocean between us!" and they're standing on opposite ends of the kitchen island.
He wanted a classy woman, Carrie was fun and easy not marriage material. In the end he settled for her. Really I think he wanted someone like both Natasha and Carrie in one person but couldnt find it so he had to pick one. He messed up with Natasha and then eventually only Carrie left because she was desperate and a doormat. A woman with class like Natasha could love him to death but never go back after such an awful thing such as cheating. Carrie accepted any behaviour.
So true. Big had 2 classy ex-wives (the publisher and Natasha) and couldn't make it work with either, so in the end, when he was older and not really that much of a catch anymore, he settled for the doormat who followed him around for years. He probably thought "Well, I don't have many years left anyway, might as well get me a free hospice nurse."
The scene is completely realistic in my opinion, especially when she says you said you loved me and he replies.. I do.. while he’s also saying not to move to Paris for him? It’s a complete mind fuck, that would confuse anyone. People can say what they want about Carrie she was immature, a shit friend, she was pathetic etc but I can’t fully blame her in this on and off relationship, he was like a magnet to her, he would chase her and then push her away in such an ongoing cycle, and it was hard for her to completely cut it off especially because he had money, class, and she was attracted to him etc and when you really look at it he wasn’t an awful evil guy, he just wasn’t the best when it came to their on and off toxic relationship , he never really knew what the hell he was doing! I wouldn’t be surprised if he had met Natasha around this time and so he was off with Carrie all of a sudden Iv been in a situation like that, where I was in a toxic on and off relationship with a guy who would mind F me constantly, telling me he didn’t want a relationship and girlfriend right now but if he did he would date me, it was a mess. But he ended up cutting me off when he did meet another girl behind my back and behaved like Big did here. In the end they didn’t last just like Big and Natasha didn’t, and he did try contacting me and crawling back into my life, only I grew up and I forced myself to leave him in the past. Sometimes I wish Carrie had of been as strong to do so too! But sometimes I can’t help but love their relationship here and there throughout the show.
She was always role-playing to entertain him, just trying so hard. Isn't it ironic how Aiden pressured Carrie and he's labeled a bully but when she pressured Big, that was justifiable. Carrie kept going off by the rails, throwing fits at Big's place, at parties, in restaurants, in the streets everywhere really and that's just fine. There's no great love, not even much in common except they're both narcissists. She wanted the status, glamor and riches he could provide.
You have completely misunderstood the entire SATC. They were meant to end up together. "Carrie you're the one" is what he tells her in season 6. They have such great chemistry.
well she was too clingy and too girlie for her age. Coming to a guys appartment wearing costumes and buying Fastfood to guy who eats in posh restaurants. Oh please... she is 35 and acting like 17 to a man who dates models.
Being hurt countless times by Big wasn't enough to walk away once and for all.Doing things and wanting to be a part in the life of someone who doesn't really give a damm about you...So devastating a total dead end relationship...It hurts awfully when you realise that you're not significant for the person who's significant for you.
the way she kisses him, talk to him.. and he is so distant. He does not care. "Are we thinking of doing something?"... wake up Carrie there is no "we". He's just stringing you along and then he will marries the first girl he meets. "Why is it so hard?" He does not want you dear! Stop forcing a relationship onto him!
the crazy and sad thing is that we've all been in this kind of situation at some point or another, it sucks that sometimes people get strung along like this yeah it seems like its meant to be but timing is everything i suppose. i feel carrie so much
Carrie is a hopeless romantic child and Big is a pragmatist business guy. The scene is where fantasy got crushed by reality. Carrie is acting based on the future she created in her head and Big is acting based on the present, he’s just being realistic
all she wanted was a committed relationship from big. gor her to know that thuer relationship was real and on the road to somwhere but he kept his distance from her all the time. he didnt know what he wanted. but he did know that he didnt want carrie to be with another man and moving forward with him.
Mr. Big was actually the mature one in this. Both people should be able to follow their careers and if she really loved him she would respect that his job is important to him. Just like he respects her life. Move to Paris for yourself but mot because you can't be alone. He wants a partner by his side, not a dramatic little girl who throws temper tantrums whenever he makes a choice. Although he should've told her earlier. That's for sure.
Not really, he didn't even factor her in decision making progress. Didn't compromise, didn't calm her down, didn't propose any solution. He was alone in relationship, so basically there was no relationship first of all.
Big said “We will talk about this when I get back “. She flew off the handle and called him before he could ever even make it back to the states lol! Also, I’m like Big. Why would I tell you something about me moving if nothing was definite?!!!! He stated they had been talking about it but no decisions had been made. So I’m sure he wanted all the details before he mentioned anything. She flipped out!!!! They aren’t married so actually what he decides to do for his career is solely his decision. If she is down for the ride great, if not I wish you well. I do understand as a woman how and why her feelings were hurt but Carrie you chose struggle love. He been showed you that everything had to be on his terms. She did it to herself because she could have been left. I get being in love but at what point don’t you see you just aren’t a priority!!
He was such an asshole to blame her that it is not the relationship that he wants. Even if you have a friendship you might tell people "you know what, I might go to another continent permanently but it has been nice to have met you" or something, you dont just throw the bomb. Even if you don't love someone who is in your life or you dont feel the need to keep them,, you can still be mannered and sensitive.
I can't believe I never realized how awful Big is when I watched this at eighteen. I mean, yeah, Carrie's a needy mess and she should've walked out a hundred times. But Big is just awful. Even in the scenes where they're meant to be flirting and getting along, everything he does is calculated to keep himself in control of their entire dynamic. What a POS.
No big was cool. Carrie is worshipping likd she does Material things. Carries sees big as a LABEL! She wants to wear big. Big needs Love from a woman who does not depend on designer shoes to feel good about herself. Carrie was being too Clingy and trashy. Bringing Mc.Donalds to a man with such class is just cheap! She was being to ghetto for him. He was moving to Paris and Carrie was dressed like a homeless person.
You would think Carrie would look at Steve, Harry, and Smith and think "My friends seem so happy. I want a boyfriend like that". And she had Aidan at one point! Some girls just like to suffer.
This is the only time I actually agree with Big, I feel like Carrie puts her relationship over herself every time. And when Bug said “don’t move to Paris for me” I totally agree. That’s why it didn’t work out whit Alexander Petroski
Finally, someone who agrees with me! True, maybe he should have told her sooner… but he wasn’t wrong. It *would* be stupid to uproot your whole life just to follow a boyfriend to Paris for one year- especially when he’s coming back.
So Big goes to Paris and marries Natasha. Carrie and Big have an affair. Carrie goes off to Paris with Alexander. Big flies to Paris to get Carrie. They marry and he drops dead in the shower. The End.
Look, some women want more casual relationships, some are looking for more of a commitment. We're not a monolith. But the issue here was a woman more interested in commitment with a man who was not. That's just a toxic set up and it's not going to work. You have to get on the same page about it, one way or another, by some point. And it's better to figure that out sooner rather than later.
My son’s father is/was my Mr. Big. I don’t understand the hold he has on me even now. I’ll be glad when I meet someone someday who makes me not even think twice about him.
If I recall correctly, on Carrie and Big's first date they didn't even bother going out on a date and went straight to bed...the relationship was inevitably doomed.
The older I get the more I realize how needy Carrie was, she did not have much self love, she wasn’t mature enough to leave Big since he was not really committed to her at the beginning, she preferred to suffer for so many years while big was giving her just Half or little love every time he wanted. He is right in this episode when he tells her: if you decide to move to Paris do it because you will do it for you, not for me. Carrie did have emotional dependency.
Big is right in this situation. You don't move countries on a whim to be with someone. If Carrie had said I will come with you, it will be fun, I've never been to Paris, there's so many things I want to do. Her in this scene she just looks desperate and needy, not the strong independent woman she claims to be. I mean they are not even living together
Not really, Carrie is a self-centered, needy bitch who's all about herself and has to throw food at the wall because he hasn't pledged eternal love. It was all about work, not her. Ugh.
I'm with Big. Carrie's analysis about big just not wanting to get closer was pathetic. Perhaps he is freaked out, she is right. She walks in with a beret and Big Macs. Talking about talking about moving Paris. Might as well propose to the guy with an apple pie!
Oh my 🙉 the more i watch and think about the situation the more rediculous it gets. She looks like obsessed with him. She is not his wife, they dont live together, he never promissed anything to her, he didnt ask her if she would consider to join him. ...Her behaviour can not be attractive to anybody, its scary. I understand her feelings but kinda she made it all up herself, she desided to stay with the man who can not commit, who has lots of issues and old habbits, she is obviously not the girl he dreamed of, i think he liked her a lot, even loved her, but he wanted someone well mannered, classic. I guess it hit him hard too when he realised he actually loved her as she was funny and he loved talking to her, laughing with her....but it deffinately was time consuming for him to decide if he really would want to spend the rest of his life with her. I could never wait for a guy like that, too complicated for me 😣 but i guess could be fine for someone. 🤔
At some point there is a BIG in every Gal's life: Unfortunately for MY Mr. BIG if we do not get it right this time around?? *DO NOT LOOK FOR ME NEXT LIFETIME*
Big reminds me my ex-boyfriend. 100% chemestry and he is so charming...we know from the begenning that it will not work out as we were not expecting the same things. We had a beautiful 1 year together. Actually I never call him my boyfriend in front of him or our friends. I introduice him like my lover (mon amant). I knew I can't change who he is but I was so in love that somehow I try to change him ...then we broke-up. I met my version of "Aiden" and we now together for 13 years and we have a 5 years old son. I still meet my Mr Big every year for a holyday lunch. We are still friend. He talks about the girls he is dating and I talk about works and my family life. We are exactly were we expected 15 yeasrs ago. I have no regrets. We live our aventure and we have today our own life.
He has a point. And this is how I always reacted when someone wanted to move to my country. You should never move just because of the relationship. If you can get a job there and have a life of your own, awesome, but if your whole life will just revolve around me, no thank you.
Big is not wrong. He made it perfectly clear the boundaries of the relationship. A mature woman would have been grateful that he wasn't making false promises.
Amen!!!! Ppl stay saying he was mean but I can respect a person more if they lay the cards out on the table and allow me to make a decision rather than lying and blindsiding me. She kept choosing him and he kept saying “ ON MY OWN TERMS”. He give a little and she’d want more, he’d give a little and she would want even more although he made it crystal clear he couldn’t tell her she was his person. She kept doing this to herself. She could have left and stayed gone since they wanted different things. You can’t play victim when he told you from the beginning.
Well by the end of the series we ge to realize why big wanted carrie to go to paris only for herself and not him. She would be lonely and alone in one of the most beautiful places of the world.
that's the thing ladies. Guys reject you with their actions and then become nice verbally so that they won't look bad while you are screaming and walking away from them. This is the reason most women keep going back to toxic men.
Imagine if Aidan and Natasha had ended up together 😂 now THAT would’ve been interesting. He could’ve gotten her out of her stuffy beige only furniture and furnishings and given her real love
Carrie has a point. If big wanted her in his life, if he truly loved her as he said he did, he would have said" great idea carrie. You come too so we won't have to do long distance for a year". He wanted them to fall out. He just didn't want any scenes, didn't want the whole brake up conversation and drama and crying, he wanted to turn a cold shoulder on her and blame it on the trip. He wanted an ocean between them so he wouldn't take the blame for not actually loving her the way she loved him.
@@LeWildSister Carrie has her apartment, her friends, her whole life is in Manhattan. He is actually pretty responsible to not make her spontaneously tear her life down for his business trip. Moving across the world for a year is not that simple.
When you love someone like Big, this is what you get, worries, dishonor, low self-esteem and depression......
when u like someone is not that into u
Facts
When you love someone more than yourself!
Khadija Begum , love is not a terminal disease, it’s a state of mind. When are more people going to realize that?
@@johnjohnson3709 for You is Only a State of Mind; if you are heartless, but Most people when they fall in love with someone, is neither.
Rule #1 for your self esteem: never say "i'll move there " if the guy doesn't even ask!
Exactly! She was so pathetic and clingy. She could waited for the guy to ask... It's Paris. She could have insinuated she wanted she wanted to go... But no, she went psycho.
Right!!!
Becky Goodhair thing is... this show depicts many men in its entirety flesh and bone unfortunately. I mean, just look at the guy you replied this to, he thought it was pathetic and psychotic and clingy going out to proof the entire point of this episode. So after all it’s not just a show it’s real life.
@Becky Goodhair he was garbage yes, so she should have thrown him away, but she didnt, she continued being clingy and masochist.
Also Big could have just implied he wasn’t going to propose just because she moved (kind of like Charlotte expected proposal soon after she converted for Judaism and caused the fight between her and Harry).
Omg this scene always killed me...my heart can’t take it....what a waste of Mc Donald’s!
Montell Carey Iosefo
😂😂😂
It could have been worse:
Burger King, 5 Gays, Carls Jr, Shake Shack, etc....
U. S. Land of waste...
I hate McDonalds
Montell Carey Iosefo lol I feel terrible for the fish sandwich
A woman can learn so much from SATC if she watches carefully..
Yes... a dumb woman. Because no self respecting woman identifies with any of these characters.
Messylin pretty sure they meant learn what not to do
Messylin do you even watch the show? There are many characters who are strong and hard working and confident like Miranda and Sam. It’s not stupid. It’s complex just like real life. And there’s a lot of nice messages in this show.
@@Dorothy_Gale exactly 😃
A. L. Michael and Charlotte! She had very high standards that she never budged on and she never let a man treat her like this!
"I don´t want to talk about this any more". Male answer for almost everything excepting sports.
That’s so true .
Or 🚗🚘
not all men are the same
Yes 😂 always when you question things they do that hurt you, but if it’s the other way around it sounds different
It’s because they view us as some manic pixie dream girls that should give them only joy and nothing else. The minute where we express dissatisfaction with how they behave and how they give us less than bare minimum, they get defensive and closed off because the most of them are incapable off any sort of self reflection.
“I understand”, wow, he wanted to end it, he just needed the right way.
He met Natasha the first Paris trip, I guarantee it.
And he expect to meet such girls. Natasha is an Armani and Carrie is GAP.
Carrie had a sense of humour..... Natasha never
Sabrina Carrie said it best when big and Natasha got married. “She’s Vera Wang and I’m the sex columnist in the paper next to penal implants. “
@jazinegrrrl Perfect insight. To think she ends up with the guy. I get he's a fan favorite. Suave, debonair yada yada. But for him to go through such a major character transformation with only an affair as an altering arc, rings unrealistic to me. In the real world, Carrie would be his second ex wife.
Jessjess23 Brooks not necessarily so, in the real world, a man can be with a woman for years and still leave her and be engaged to a woman in months. It’s about that spark.
If someone makes you upset, cry, and question your self esteem like Big did to Carrie it's not healthy or ok.
She allowed it.
He was upfront from the beginning regarding what he was all about - Carrie tried numerous times to force the relationship that she wanted. They were both wrong.
I think he met Natasha already and doesn’t want Carrie there.
It would not surprise me
That's actually a good theory - I hadn't thought of that.
That does make sense
Omg I am reading this theory in the comments and it blown my mind.. if he met Natasha already and later on married her... Oh no.. and Carrie she married this guy.. I don't know why but this is just...
I never thought about this.
I would've taken the fries with me
Me too
And they were super size too
they're cheap, you can just buy more
I did that when i caught my ex cheating 😂😑
You people worrying about the fries
Big's an emotionally unavailable narcissist.
And Carrie is a pathetic loser. And also a narcissist.
@@91clarie Actually Carrie is more borderline than narcissist.
so is she.
No he has shown her who he was - she accepted it
Agreed!
I had someone like Big. I finally came to my senses and left him. It was the best thing I ever did, I know my worth and I’ll make the sure the man i marry someday knows it too.
I left my Mr. BIG a month ago... hurts still ... but it was d right thing to do
Ladies I hope you both make the best decision....
Me too, it was during my teen years so I guess it was actually a “junior big”, but whatever. There’s no way you can fix people like him, you just need to run away.
“I don’t want you to uproot your life and expect anything.” Damn!
Carrie has been such a DOORMAT. She finally stood up to him. Finally.
No she isn't. You don't notice Carrie just sitting around waiting by the phone for him do you. That's what a doormat is. Carrie gets upset at him but she still does her writing and she goes out with her friends. Believe me I know what a doormat is from experience. Carrie has to much of a life to be a doormat. She should just tell Big where it can Big-it, if ya know what I mean.
Lisa Sc I meant to say "Big where he can Big-it!" lol
Lisa S she also dates other mem
@@bluecollarlit she did but she always kept a space for big in her heart
And became his doormat again
When Carrie says that Big can't factor her into his life in any real way, it is such good acting! I really felt SJP's pain and frustration at the whole situation.
When he said “we’ll figure it out when I get back” is another example of him just stringing her along. He had no intention of working something out together to. And then says “wtf” and gaslit her when she was upset. Creep.
Well, that was before she called him in the middle of the night, hysterical and pushing things. Where she didn’t even give him a chance to do anything. He said MAYBE he would go to Paris and the work has something to do with it. And here comes her highness Carrie and DEMANDS that she decides there something, when it wasn’t even about her. These scene makes so much sense actually.
Hellooo!!!! When someone says “I understand” - you have been dumped! Run and run fast!!!!! 😆😆😆
He has always made her cry & she has always looked beyond that
She look desepered to me
I never looked at the 2 of them and went ohhh how romantic everrrr. They were 2 adults who were supposedly worldly and sophisticated and experienced but their r/s seemed dysfunctional, a living breathing wreck. I felt there was no purity in the feelings they had for each other. It was just sex, fine dining, the occasional sleepover at each other's homes and a whole plethora of conflicts because of being on different pages. The only r/s in the 6 seasons I felt envious of was the one of Charlotte and Harry. The way she told him I dont care if you ever marry me I just wanna be with you and then he knelt to propose. That beats Carrie's moments with Big in expensive dresses inside expensive restaurants any day.
I agree
I also liked Steve and Miranda's relationship. It was the realest to me. Imperfect from the beginning but it grew and evolved as they both matured.
I loved Carrie with Aidan, and she even realized at the end how much she screwed that up.
You forgot when miranda told steve she loved him in the laundry room. That beats charlotte's proposal moment in my opinion. I mean to hear those words coming from miranda... you KNOW she meant them. And then Steve just smiling and going- i love you too. I mean COME ON, it's *you* " sorry but even typing the scene out brings tears to my eyes let alone watching it. It was so pure, so genuine, so unexpected. In a fucking laundry room, no romantic setting, no marriage proposal, no streets of paris with the eiffel tower in the background(carrie's case in the last ep), just completely unplanned and heartfelt and i love that she had known for a long time but took a while to admit it so it was real from the start whether she knew it or not. Best moment in the whole show
Uhmmm only? No. You must be forgetting the moment when Smith shaved his head for Samantha during the peak of his career when she was going thru chemo therapy.
My God he really didn't like her at all did he. How on earth did the fans think it was a good idea for them to end up together? Imagine how crushed carrie must have felt after this. All he probably felt was relief
"You said you loved me."
"I do."
No he didn't. Love doesn't act like that.
I think he did, he just didn't like how loving her made him vulnerable
He did...life and love are not always black and white
“Running around town in a barret” I always laugh at that part.
charlie prescott Beret lol
Big was always honest with Carrie, she just wouldn't get the hint.
She thought he would change for her, that she'd turn him into a family man or something and because he wouldn't, she presented him like the bad guy.
How many times had he shown her that she wasn't indeed "the one" and she constantly went back for more.
true
No he wasn't honest because he always gave her false hope stringing her along ... he must have told her straight but he was never ever honest, he was playing with carrie
YES! Everyone acted like Big was this horrible person for not wanting her to come to Paris, but realistically? He wasn’t wrong. Carrie would have uprooted her whole life to follow him to Paris for a year, and as we all saw in season 6, that is a terrible idea- she was miserable and lonely in Paris.
And what pisses me off the most? Carrie literally led Aiden on two seasons later, to the point where she *accepted his marriage proposal* even though she did not actually want to marry him. And this was after cheating on him, too.
And yet Big was somehow the problem? Yeah, I don’t think so. Carrie was a terrible girlfriend who made everything, even Big’s work obligations, about her.
Thank you! I was going to comment something like this, but you've said it. Big was always honest with Carrie: he found her interesting and wanted sex. He never made any indication of wanting a relationship. Carrie pushed and tried to get more personal. Big knrw Carrie was immature and emotionally unstable so he never wanted outright to tell her, "Look. I'm not into you". Big's only fault is that he should have cut off all ties with her to make it clear that he didn't want her.
@jazinegrrrl Carrie never loved Big. She loved the image of him.
“ I understand “ 😭😭😭😭 he’s evil
Hes evil AF
I love how she says "an ocean between them" as theyre on either side of the kitchen island.
The line '...move to Paris and expect anything.' Carrie, stop this right now. This guy AIN'T for you.
This is what she did to Aiden..
not at all
Not even
this is what Samantha did to smith and what Miranda did to Steve in the beginning
Alexis Rocha how? Aidan was open about his feelings and she pushed him away and wouldn’t commit, just like Big.
Very true.
I’m not sure if this was intentional but did anyone else notice that when Carrie says “This is about you being so freaked out that you have to put an ocean between us” they’re both standing at opposite ends of the kitchen island? it’s like the director was trying to emphasize with the setting that they’re physically and emotionally growing apart.
good eye.. it was done intentionally.. I think I learned that while watching with commentary included on the DVD set..
Yup ! I noticed that too! It definitely puts things in perspective for their situation. Nice catch
I hate men who are like big. It’s happened to me . I am so frustrated because of that
Good luck and hope he doesn't string you along for 6 years.
cirila dewi lanch oh well. Men act like this only because you allow them to.
When you find someone that doesn’t respect you and treats you shitty you just have to let them go and move on. Clearly Big never really wanted a serious relationship with Carrie, yet she kept pushing and going back to him and trying to make it happen. She looked desperate to him and men don’t find desperate women attractive at all.
So if someone doesn’t want you, have some self respect and let them go. Their loss.
But what do I know huh
Yep i got strung along for years
Big was upfront about who he was as a person
Same here
This scene is so sad. I feel her anger and pain. Great acting!
I'd kill for those fries right about now!
Ditto
Sarcastically Deranged same and it’s breakfast time in Adelaide Australia lol
@@taliehughes4341 fries for breakfast? What else would you have from the menu?
Sarcastically Deranged may be a double choc sundae
@@taliehughes4341 have you ever tried the fries with the vanilla ice cream? Delicious! Although it doesn't sound like it.
Here's the thing. He can reach her, but she can't ever get him xD xD
I never would have turned back after walking out that door. It's so obvious he doesn't give two shits about her.
He just didn't love her the way she did...
Sasha S. Because she is a shallow woman who live for designer shoes.
@@eduardochavacano spoken like a try mysoginist. Women can love material things and still have depth.
Eliza Bentley or how about Im a fan of Carrie who has Sense of humor and You are a Leftist hate monger who will die a virgin because the substance you are delussional eating up the remnants of your humanity.
@@eduardochavacano dude you're commenting like this in every single comment. Like... who hurt you?? Go get some therapy lol
Never in a million years a man like Big would have married a woman like Carrie... She's been sooooo desperate and needy and clingy all the series I couldn't bare it and no normal man ever would. The ending is a beautiful fairy tale which would have never happened in a real life. I love SATC but Carrie's behavior in relationships is way out of line.
She was not needy she was in love that's the difference all she wanted from him was to treat her with love and respect like any kind of relationship there's nothing wrong with that . whoever you are would you be happy if your husband or wife neglect you all the time and don't show any commitment? I don't think so
I thought I was the only one that thought that way. A lot of people felt like Big was an asshole and didn't care. But he was honestly just calm and collected about how he approached Carrie's behavior.
She shouldn't have waited around for Big. As soon as she saw that he wasn't going to fully commit to her, that's when she should have walked away.
The reason he ended up with her is because he got older and realized he wanted to be with someone who loved him and nobody loved him the way Carrie did.
BULLSHIT. Narcissists like Big literally bring out the worst in you and can reduce the strongest of women to insecure little girls. It's crazymaking what they do to you
A relationship based on sex , very rarely works long term
😢 i wish i knew it before!
I love the detail when they're fighting and Carrie says "You're so freaked out you have to put an ocean between us!" and they're standing on opposite ends of the kitchen island.
He didn't tell her about Paris till the day of his flight. She still came back. We all are fools.
She needed suffering. If he behaved like Aidan, she wouldn't need him.
Big is so mean here but it always makes me laugh out loud when he says "what the fuck?" after she throws the food 😂
“ I understand “……felt like a hammer to the head.
He wanted a classy woman, Carrie was fun and easy not marriage material. In the end he settled for her. Really I think he wanted someone like both Natasha and Carrie in one person but couldnt find it so he had to pick one. He messed up with Natasha and then eventually only Carrie left because she was desperate and a doormat. A woman with class like Natasha could love him to death but never go back after such an awful thing such as cheating. Carrie accepted any behaviour.
Natasha stayed quiet about the cheating after she found out, and only got enraged when she spied Carrie in her house
So true. Big had 2 classy ex-wives (the publisher and Natasha) and couldn't make it work with either, so in the end, when he was older and not really that much of a catch anymore, he settled for the doormat who followed him around for years. He probably thought "Well, I don't have many years left anyway, might as well get me a free hospice nurse."
Hilarious the burger bun stuck on the painting at 3.39 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Can’t stop looking at the Big Mac, which was crushed against the TV 😂
The scene is completely realistic in my opinion, especially when she says you said you loved me and he replies.. I do.. while he’s also saying not to move to Paris for him? It’s a complete mind fuck, that would confuse anyone. People can say what they want about Carrie she was immature, a shit friend, she was pathetic etc but I can’t fully blame her in this on and off relationship, he was like a magnet to her, he would chase her and then push her away in such an ongoing cycle, and it was hard for her to completely cut it off especially because he had money, class, and she was attracted to him etc and when you really look at it he wasn’t an awful evil guy, he just wasn’t the best when it came to their on and off toxic relationship , he never really knew what the hell he was doing! I wouldn’t be surprised if he had met Natasha around this time and so he was off with Carrie all of a sudden
Iv been in a situation like that, where I was in a toxic on and off relationship with a guy who would mind F me constantly, telling me he didn’t want a relationship and girlfriend right now but if he did he would date me, it was a mess. But he ended up cutting me off when he did meet another girl behind my back and behaved like Big did here.
In the end they didn’t last just like Big and Natasha didn’t, and he did try contacting me and crawling back into my life, only I grew up and I forced myself to leave him in the past. Sometimes I wish Carrie had of been as strong to do so too! But sometimes I can’t help but love their relationship here and there throughout the show.
That's whats so amazing about this show and particularly Big and Carries relationship....it's so dysfunctional, but so many of us have been through it
"Don't get Carrie-d away". Big was the smart one. He knew what she was like.
I loved that 🤣🤣☠️☠️☠️☠️. Cause boyyyyyyy was she a hot mess when mad.
I always remember the tartar sauce on the television...
Same, LOL!!!!
2000:”Love Carrie”
2019:”Pure Drama Queen”
When the scenes are stitched together you can see how uninterested Big was in Carrie. Like get the hint !!!
No wonder Big had a heart condition... Carrie's drama and the greasy food she bought killed him hahahahaha
Nenis Guevara Gómez 😂😂😂
Hahahahahjajajaja...
And they both smoked!
Well it eventually did jsin
@@lindseyburns1019 well, that's our Big...he never had problem to leave her😅😭
She was always role-playing to entertain him, just trying so hard. Isn't it ironic how Aiden pressured Carrie and he's labeled a bully but when she pressured Big, that was justifiable. Carrie kept going off by the rails, throwing fits at Big's place, at parties, in restaurants, in the streets everywhere really and that's just fine. There's no great love, not even much in common except they're both narcissists. She wanted the status, glamor and riches he could provide.
You have completely misunderstood the entire SATC. They were meant to end up together. "Carrie you're the one" is what he tells her in season 6. They have such great chemistry.
A real lover never hurt his love, he is not a real lover, this kinda men make me sick😝 so selfish
well she was too clingy and too girlie for her age. Coming to a guys appartment wearing costumes and buying Fastfood to guy who eats in posh restaurants. Oh please... she is 35 and acting like 17 to a man who dates models.
@@eduardochavacano they're both shitty people
Being hurt countless times by Big wasn't enough to walk away once and for all.Doing things and wanting to be a part in the life of someone who doesn't really give a damm about you...So devastating a total dead end relationship...It hurts awfully when you realise that you're not significant for the person who's significant for you.
Your last line hits home.
Omg! Carrie looks amazing and she conveys the suffering of the situation so real😥
He’s a player. Plain and simple.
the way she kisses him, talk to him.. and he is so distant. He does not care. "Are we thinking of doing something?"... wake up Carrie there is no "we". He's just stringing you along and then he will marries the first girl he meets.
"Why is it so hard?" He does not want you dear! Stop forcing a relationship onto him!
the crazy and sad thing is that we've all been in this kind of situation at some point or another, it sucks that sometimes people get strung along like this yeah it seems like its meant to be but timing is everything i suppose. i feel carrie so much
Carrie is a hopeless romantic child and Big is a pragmatist business guy. The scene is where fantasy got crushed by reality. Carrie is acting based on the future she created in her head and Big is acting based on the present, he’s just being realistic
all she wanted was a committed relationship from big. gor her to know that thuer relationship was real and on the road to somwhere but he kept his distance from her all the time. he didnt know what he wanted. but he did know that he didnt want carrie to be with another man and moving forward with him.
Mr. Big was actually the mature one in this. Both people should be able to follow their careers and if she really loved him she would respect that his job is important to him. Just like he respects her life. Move to Paris for yourself but mot because you can't be alone. He wants a partner by his side, not a dramatic little girl who throws temper tantrums whenever he makes a choice. Although he should've told her earlier. That's for sure.
Not really, he didn't even factor her in decision making progress. Didn't compromise, didn't calm her down, didn't propose any solution. He was alone in relationship, so basically there was no relationship first of all.
THIS
Big said “We will talk about this when I get back “. She flew off the handle and called him before he could ever even make it back to the states lol! Also, I’m like Big. Why would I tell you something about me moving if nothing was definite?!!!! He stated they had been talking about it but no decisions had been made. So I’m sure he wanted all the details before he mentioned anything. She flipped out!!!! They aren’t married so actually what he decides to do for his career is solely his decision. If she is down for the ride great, if not I wish you well. I do understand as a woman how and why her feelings were hurt but Carrie you chose struggle love. He been showed you that everything had to be on his terms. She did it to herself because she could have been left. I get being in love but at what point don’t you see you just aren’t a priority!!
I love the way Big says “what the fuck” in the series lmao
Looking back on it, Carrie and Big deserved each other and that's not a compliment.
He was such an asshole to blame her that it is not the relationship that he wants. Even if you have a friendship you might tell people "you know what, I might go to another continent permanently but it has been nice to have met you" or something, you dont just throw the bomb. Even if you don't love someone who is in your life or you dont feel the need to keep them,, you can still be mannered and sensitive.
I hate this time in their relationship. I hate how she reacts. But her hair looks great!!!!
That, right there. Those of us who have been with a Mr big know this oh so well
And learned from it. Don’t give 90 percent when you only getting 10.-The END LOL.😊
Carrie is so needy! I could've understood her behavior if she was 20 years old. But for a grown woman in her 30s she has no self-esteem at all!
I can't believe I never realized how awful Big is when I watched this at eighteen. I mean, yeah, Carrie's a needy mess and she should've walked out a hundred times. But Big is just awful. Even in the scenes where they're meant to be flirting and getting along, everything he does is calculated to keep himself in control of their entire dynamic. What a POS.
No big was cool. Carrie is worshipping likd she does Material things. Carries sees big as a LABEL! She wants to wear big. Big needs Love from a woman who does not depend on designer shoes to feel good about herself. Carrie was being too Clingy and trashy. Bringing Mc.Donalds to a man with such class is just cheap! She was being to ghetto for him. He was moving to Paris and Carrie was dressed like a homeless person.
No. It's because he subconsciously reminds her of her father who left when she was five.
You would think Carrie would look at Steve, Harry, and Smith and think "My friends seem so happy. I want a boyfriend like that". And she had Aidan at one point! Some girls just like to suffer.
This is the only time I actually agree with Big, I feel like Carrie puts her relationship over herself every time. And when Bug said “don’t move to Paris for me” I totally agree. That’s why it didn’t work out whit Alexander Petroski
Finally, someone who agrees with me! True, maybe he should have told her sooner… but he wasn’t wrong. It *would* be stupid to uproot your whole life just to follow a boyfriend to Paris for one year- especially when he’s coming back.
So Big goes to Paris and marries Natasha. Carrie and Big have an affair. Carrie goes off to Paris with Alexander. Big flies to Paris to get Carrie. They marry and he drops dead in the shower. The End.
How dare she , i 'm huge fan of fillet o fish
Why is it so hard to have me in ur life in a real way.....?????
All women always
Look, some women want more casual relationships, some are looking for more of a commitment. We're not a monolith. But the issue here was a woman more interested in commitment with a man who was not. That's just a toxic set up and it's not going to work. You have to get on the same page about it, one way or another, by some point. And it's better to figure that out sooner rather than later.
My son’s father is/was my Mr. Big. I don’t understand the hold he has on me even now. I’ll be glad when I meet someone someday who makes me not even think twice about him.
If I recall correctly, on Carrie and Big's first date they didn't even bother going out on a date and went straight to bed...the relationship was inevitably doomed.
He never loved Carrie... he just stayed with her in the end because it was convenient for him.
The older I get the more I realize how needy Carrie was, she did not have much self love, she wasn’t mature enough to leave Big since he was not really committed to her at the beginning, she preferred to suffer for so many years while big was giving her just Half or little love every time he wanted. He is right in this episode when he tells her: if you decide to move to Paris do it because you will do it for you, not for me. Carrie did have emotional dependency.
And also - she was in love, there is no need to rationalise it.
Self love is first.
@@dbq7137 for narcissist maybe :)
she is so into him and he is so not that into her it's sad
After watching this episode, I realized, if a guy moved away from me, I now take that as him wanting out and not caring
Big is right in this situation. You don't move countries on a whim to be with someone. If Carrie had said I will come with you, it will be fun, I've never been to Paris, there's so many things I want to do.
Her in this scene she just looks desperate and needy, not the strong independent woman she claims to be.
I mean they are not even living together
It wasn't hard for him to factor her into his life. He just didn't want to.
And he showed her that from the very first date.
Big is king of strange ...why he behaves like that. Its like he dont want to take responsibility for himself and other people.
it's like maybe he never really did a give a fuck about her, ever think of that?
Not really, Carrie is a self-centered, needy bitch who's all about herself and has to throw food at the wall because he hasn't pledged eternal love. It was all about work, not her. Ugh.
sophia lee Men like Big are always the main problems in their multiple relationships.
Kelley Small the only one that is self-centered here is Big
He had just met Natasha in Paris.
I'm with Big. Carrie's analysis about big just not wanting to get closer was pathetic. Perhaps he is freaked out, she is right. She walks in with a beret and Big Macs. Talking about talking about moving Paris. Might as well propose to the guy with an apple pie!
Oh my 🙉 the more i watch and think about the situation the more rediculous it gets. She looks like obsessed with him. She is not his wife, they dont live together, he never promissed anything to her, he didnt ask her if she would consider to join him. ...Her behaviour can not be attractive to anybody, its scary. I understand her feelings but kinda she made it all up herself, she desided to stay with the man who can not commit, who has lots of issues and old habbits, she is obviously not the girl he dreamed of, i think he liked her a lot, even loved her, but he wanted someone well mannered, classic. I guess it hit him hard too when he realised he actually loved her as she was funny and he loved talking to her, laughing with her....but it deffinately was time consuming for him to decide if he really would want to spend the rest of his life with her.
I could never wait for a guy like that, too complicated for me 😣 but i guess could be fine for someone. 🤔
This was the most toxic relationship in tv history other than Ross and Rachel from Friends.
At some point there is a BIG in every Gal's life: Unfortunately for MY Mr. BIG if we do not get it right this time around?? *DO NOT LOOK FOR ME NEXT LIFETIME*
Big reminds me my ex-boyfriend. 100% chemestry and he is so charming...we know from the begenning that it will not work out as we were not expecting the same things. We had a beautiful 1 year together. Actually I never call him my boyfriend in front of him or our friends. I introduice him like my lover (mon amant). I knew I can't change who he is but I was so in love that somehow I try to change him ...then we broke-up. I met my version of "Aiden" and we now together for 13 years and we have a 5 years old son. I still meet my Mr Big every year for a holyday lunch. We are still friend. He talks about the girls he is dating and I talk about works and my family life. We are exactly were we expected 15 yeasrs ago. I have no regrets. We live our aventure and we have today our own life.
Does your husband know about this annual ex reunion
@@RH-td7vc good question, i wanna know the answer to that too
Why would you ever be so reckless and bring a child into an already doomed relationship between two idiots? Incredibly dumb!
@@sarcasticallyrearranged , she has been married to him for 13 years with a son who is 5 years old. She moved on. Why is that dumb?
1:37 The same thing happened with her father when she was five. That's why she is so messed up
He has a point. And this is how I always reacted when someone wanted to move to my country. You should never move just because of the relationship. If you can get a job there and have a life of your own, awesome, but if your whole life will just revolve around me, no thank you.
This show's writing is so funny. What does this guy do?! "I'm moving to Paris for work." What work? He just wears suits.
Thats his thing he is the mystery guy we learn his name in the final episode
I lie her straight long hair, I wish she wore it like that more often, but her curly hair is also nice.
After watching these scenes, my very female reaction is not "Why wouldn't Big commit?' but "Why wasn't Carrie committed?"
She was always trying too hard.
When he said, “you be moving to Paris for yourself, right.” Dooop! I felt that like a body blow, heart crusher.
It's literally about work 🤣🤣
Big is not wrong. He made it perfectly clear the boundaries of the relationship. A mature woman would have been grateful that he wasn't making false promises.
Bullshit. He treated her like a creeper narcissist here. wtf is wrong with you?
Big should've dated a mature woman
Amen!!!! Ppl stay saying he was mean but I can respect a person more if they lay the cards out on the table and allow me to make a decision rather than lying and blindsiding me. She kept choosing him and he kept saying “ ON MY OWN TERMS”. He give a little and she’d want more, he’d give a little and she would want even more although he made it crystal clear he couldn’t tell her she was his person. She kept doing this to herself. She could have left and stayed gone since they wanted different things. You can’t play victim when he told you from the beginning.
Don't expect to be treated like a wife if you're not.
Well by the end of the series we ge to realize why big wanted carrie to go to paris only for herself and not him. She would be lonely and alone in one of the most beautiful places of the world.
that's the thing ladies. Guys reject you with their actions and then become nice verbally so that they won't look bad while you are screaming and walking away from them. This is the reason most women keep going back to toxic men.
Imagine if Aidan and Natasha had ended up together 😂 now THAT would’ve been interesting. He could’ve gotten her out of her stuffy beige only furniture and furnishings and given her real love
Big has a point here....Carrie should not be expecting so much....she should live her life ....not big's life
Carrie has a point. If big wanted her in his life, if he truly loved her as he said he did, he would have said" great idea carrie. You come too so we won't have to do long distance for a year". He wanted them to fall out. He just didn't want any scenes, didn't want the whole brake up conversation and drama and crying, he wanted to turn a cold shoulder on her and blame it on the trip. He wanted an ocean between them so he wouldn't take the blame for not actually loving her the way she loved him.
@@LeWildSister Carrie has her apartment, her friends, her whole life is in Manhattan. He is actually pretty responsible to not make her spontaneously tear her life down for his business trip. Moving across the world for a year is not that simple.