So true, I saw it happening specially in north america ( US & CANADA) members are leaving the true church of Christ because of pride.. I am a lamanite descendant living in Canada and I can see what is happening... despite all efforts to keep them in the church they get inactive and abandone their covenants. It is sad and true.. hope for them to come back.. praying and continue working on ministering ..
Or, like me, they study their way out. Leaving had nothing to do with pride. Born into the church, a direct descendant of Brigham Young, I found the real history of the church was vastly different from what was taught when I was growing up. Faith doesn't require suspending logic and reason. God bless you in your journey!
Please don’t feel discouraged or suspend your logic in these matters. One important thing to remember is that God works through imperfect people-just as you and I are imperfect. The only person to walk this earth in perfection was Jesus Christ. When we encounter difficult aspects of history, it's often like looking at a half-finished puzzle. The narratives that sometimes shake faith can lack crucial context-important details about the time period, the circumstances, or the people involved. When we have the full picture, things often make much more sense. For those who truly study the scriptures and strive to live the commandments, the fruits of obedience become evident in their lives. These blessings strengthen faith and offer a deeper understanding of God's work, even amidst life's complexities. Remember, God’s truths are steady and sure, and with faith, we can discern the greater purpose behind what might initially seem troubling. Best of luck with your faith journey!
My friend in Canada , the time of The Great WINNOWING is upon us . THIS is the time spoken of wherein " ... if it were possible ... even the very ELECT " will be deceived ! The Lord came NOT to bring _peace_ to the land but a SWORD , which would divide those who would remain FAITHFUL from those who would NOT - from those who have FOUND the Love of God _in_ them , from those who would NOT ! Stay TRUE to your covenants , and do what you CAN to bring those who have chosen to follow after their _own_ wants , back to Christ , but never forget the LOVE of God which is IN you . Do what you _can_ , but NEVER forsake the TRUTH which *_you_* have SEEN and the LOVE which you have _experienced_ ! This ALONE will rise _with_ you in the LAST day , and this ALONE will be the ONE offering YOU can make to Christ sent of God , this ONE "Sacrifice" _you_ can make - the sacrifice of your _own_ life and WILL placed on the _Altar_ of YOUR COVENANTS , *your LOVE and your **_DEVOTION_* , to The LORD , _YOUR_ SAVIOR - *Jesus Christ* ! - - - ALL the very _BEST_ to YOU _AND_ *YOURS* , from Texas ! - Chuck .
@@TheWordsofChrist Why did god create a church that puts so much trust and power and authority in "imperfect people"? This organization relies heavily on the fact the leaders need to be of the highest moral code. Not a position you'd want to see a polygamous charlatan have, but, here we are.
Thank you so much for posting this talk by Elder Bednar! I know he his talk was inspired and what we need to hear. I felt as I listened to Conference a great sense of warning. Nevertheless I FEEL JOY!
We are the people living the Book of Mormon.. its true, Ask the why, what is this showing me and where is this leading my, our path. I am so trying, so striving to get on and remarried n on the covenant path every day,to stay on that sraight and narrow path. I can only hold fast to the rod and repent daily of any shortcomings. Known or unknown! I love The Book of Mormon. Pride has caused such strife in my very own family. Never would I have thought it possible. Its a travesty. This pride was our very fall. Now, we must repent and serve serve, serve. Humbly.
@@TheWordsofChrist - I checked out your channel , and L&S'ed right away . Seems I have a new 2nd-Source for my daily videos on topics RELEVANT to my journey , 2nd after the Church site _itself_ . I'm confident you'll be hearing from me from time to time *_;=)) !_* ALL the _best_ ! - - Chuck .
If we read from the book of Helaman to the 3 Nephi chapter 11 and liken the hearts of the people to ours today you will find its the same. The events leading up to the Saviour coming to the land of bountiful will be very much the same.
Absolutely ! - FOLLOW The PROPHET ! _The time of The Great WINNOWING is upon us_ . THIS is the time spoken of wherein " ... if it were possible ... even the very ELECT " will be deceived ! The Lord came NOT to bring _peace_ to the land , but a SWORD - which would divide those who would remain FAITHFUL , from those who would NOT - from those who have FOUND the Love of God _in_ them , from those who would NOT ! Stay TRUE to your covenants , and do what you CAN to bring those who have chosen to follow after their _own_ wants , back to Christ , but never forget the LOVE of God which is IN _you_ . Do what you _can_ , but NEVER forsake the TRUTH which *_you_* have SEEN and the LOVE which you have _experienced_ ! This ALONE will rise _with_ you in the LAST day , and this ALONE will be the ONE offering YOU can make to Christ sent of God , this ONE "Sacrifice" _you_ can make - the sacrifice of your _own_ life and WILL placed on the _Altar_ of YOUR COVENANTS , *your LOVE and your **_DEVOTION_* , to The LORD , _YOUR_ SAVIOR - *Jesus Christ* ! - - - ALL the very _BEST_ to YOU _AND_ *YOURS* , from Texas ! - Chuck .
The Book of Mormon is filled with stories of missionaries and leaders having to step in and call the people in general and the members of the church specifically to repentance. That clearly included what we would call “local leaders.” I’ve seen stuff happening in the church in the last 10 years or so that are disturbing and deeply disappointing. Not many years indeed, and we are beginning to get sucked into Satan’s traps.
My beloved Brothers and Sisters - FOLLOW The PROPHET ! _The time of The Great WINNOWING is upon us_ . THIS is the time spoken of wherein " ... if it were possible ... even the very ELECT " will be deceived ! The Lord came NOT to bring _peace_ to the land , but a SWORD - which would divide those who would remain FAITHFUL , from those who would NOT - from those who have FOUND the Love of God _in_ them , from those who would NOT ! Stay TRUE to your covenants , and do what you CAN to bring those who have chosen to follow after their _own_ wants , back to Christ , but never forget the LOVE of God which is IN _you_ . Do what you _can_ , but NEVER forsake the TRUTH which *_you_* have SEEN and the LOVE which you have _experienced_ ! This ALONE will rise _with_ you in the LAST day , and this ALONE will be the ONE offering YOU can make to Christ sent of God , this ONE "Sacrifice" _you_ can make - the sacrifice of your _own_ life and WILL placed on the _Altar_ of YOUR COVENANTS , *your LOVE and your **_DEVOTION_* , to The LORD , _YOUR_ SAVIOR - *Jesus Christ* ! - - - ALL the very _BEST_ to YOU _AND_ *YOURS* , from Texas ! - Chuck .
Indeed . They've made it COMPLETELY clear - you may see changes in POLICY on one Church topic or another - from time to time , but you will NEVER see changes in DOCTRINE Taught , _including_ the *need for* _and_ the *BLESSINGS* of RIGHTEOUS LIVING and _REPENTANCE_ .
It seems the Nephites represent those generational, or long-time members of the Church. The Lamanites represent more recently baptized, or those that come to the Church later in life.
"The book of Mormon is not primarily a historical record that looks to the past." Timestamp: 3.11 th-cam.com/video/_H5EmAY17HQ/w-d-xo.html Wow. Just wow. That is an incredible admission by one of the 12.
Yes, it addresses both the present and the near future. While much more could be discussed, I hope this talk encourages more people to read the Book of Mormon with a fresh perspective.
@@TheWordsofChrist There is something much more profound here. One of the 12 just admitted that the Book of Mormon is an ORGANIC document, susceptible to the interpretation of the LDS church tradition, not a FACTUAL archaeologically / historically accurate document as the Bible. The LDS church has been slowly inserting wiggle room into the historicity of the Book of Mormon. David's remarks while very clever - he seems to be the smartest of the 12 -, just took a giant step in that direction.
I understand that you may not have any reason to accept what I’m sharing with you. We all have the agency to accept or reject what we believe to be true. However, this does not change the reality of what is actually true. One fact is clear: this TH-cam channel has over 600 videos and nearly 3.5 million views in just about 100 days. The content published represents only a tiny fraction-less than 0.01%-of the information I consume and study. The Book of Mormon has been a lifetime study for me, and your understanding of it is quite incorrect. Elder Bednar offered listeners a unique approach to reading and studying the Book of Mormon, encouraging sincere hearts to seek revelation about our present and future. I personally handle between 6,000 to 9,000 comments a week on this channel alone. Comments like yours are common. Sadly, we live in a time when much of what is true is perceived as false, and what is false is believed to be true. This rejection of truth is leading to the downfall of society. The Bible sums it up perfectly in Hosea 4:6 (KJV): "My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children." The knowledge found in the Book of Mormon has the power to save because it contains the words of Christ. While you may have heard the Book of Mormon described as "another witness of Christ," in truth, it is the original witness of Christ. The records used by the prophets to compile the Book of Mormon, commonly referred to as the brass plates, held the complete gospel. Recent discoveries affirm that the teachings of a Savior and the life of Jesus Christ were taught by prophets since the beginning. The Old Testament lacks much of the teachings about Christ, our Father in Heaven, and our relationship as His children. This lack of core knowledge about Christ has led to further rejection of knowledge, contributing to both physical and spiritual destruction. You might ask, "Where is the physical evidence of the Book of Mormon people?" The evidence is all around us. We walk into buildings today whose origins are often unclear, but we’re given arbitrary founding dates. The Smithsonian Institution has collected and destroyed much of the evidence found in America that doesn't fit their narrative. If you and I walked on Nephite land today, men in black suits would appear within minutes, demanding that we leave. We are being kept from the truth intentionally. To overcome this, you must study for yourself and not accept the mainstream headlines. Any school you attend should be investigated-look into who runs or funds the institution. Reading the Book of Mormon with a sincere heart can begin to correct the harm and misinformation we're exposed to. How? The Holy Spirit will speak to you, and the Holy Spirit only teaches truth. It cannot lie. Once you recognize this still, small voice, you will receive answer after answer, leading you into the light of truth. The source of all truth is Jesus Christ. As I mentioned earlier, the Smithsonian has been hoarding and even dumping shiploads of artifacts into the ocean in a massive cover-up. But they can't erase the buildings and structures left behind by the people of the Americas. I encourage you to read the scriptures with an open mind. To begin your journey of understanding, spend some time exploring this TH-cam channel. When you're ready to consider these possibilities here mentioned, dive into the Word of God, especially the Book of Mormon. www.youtube.com/@Mylunchbreak I hope you take this long reply seriously. If not, please know I’ve tried to open your eyes, offering this as a friend sincerely trying to help.
@@TheWordsofChrist - THANK you . Sincerely , THANK YOU . _The time of The Great WINNOWING is upon us_ . THIS is the time spoken of wherein " ... if it were possible ... even the very ELECT " will be deceived ! The Lord came NOT to bring _peace_ to the land , but a SWORD - which would divide those who would remain FAITHFUL , from those who would NOT - from those who have FOUND the Love of God _in_ them , from those who would NOT ! Stay TRUE to your covenants , and do what you CAN to bring those who have chosen to follow after their _own_ wants , back to Christ , but never forget the LOVE of God which is IN *_YOU_* . Do what you _can_ , but NEVER forsake the TRUTH which *_you_* have SEEN and the LOVE which you have _experienced_ ! This ALONE will rise _with_ you in the LAST day , and this ALONE will be the ONE offering YOU can make to Christ sent of God , this ONE "Sacrifice" _you_ can make - the sacrifice of your _own_ life and WILL placed on the _Altar_ of YOUR COVENANTS , *your LOVE and your **_DEVOTION_* , to The LORD , _YOUR_ SAVIOR - *Jesus Christ* ! - - - ALL the very _BEST_ to YOU _AND_ *YOURS* , from Texas ! _FOLLOW The PROPHET !_ - Chuck .
So true, I saw it happening specially in north america ( US & CANADA) members are leaving the true church of Christ because of pride.. I am a lamanite descendant living in Canada and I can see what is happening... despite all efforts to keep them in the church they get inactive and abandone their covenants. It is sad and true.. hope for them to come back.. praying and continue working on ministering ..
Or, like me, they study their way out. Leaving had nothing to do with pride.
Born into the church, a direct descendant of Brigham Young, I found the real history of the church was vastly different from what was taught when I was growing up. Faith doesn't require suspending logic and reason.
God bless you in your journey!
Please don’t feel discouraged or suspend your logic in these matters. One important thing to remember is that God works through imperfect people-just as you and I are imperfect. The only person to walk this earth in perfection was Jesus Christ.
When we encounter difficult aspects of history, it's often like looking at a half-finished puzzle. The narratives that sometimes shake faith can lack crucial context-important details about the time period, the circumstances, or the people involved. When we have the full picture, things often make much more sense.
For those who truly study the scriptures and strive to live the commandments, the fruits of obedience become evident in their lives. These blessings strengthen faith and offer a deeper understanding of God's work, even amidst life's complexities. Remember, God’s truths are steady and sure, and with faith, we can discern the greater purpose behind what might initially seem troubling.
Best of luck with your faith journey!
My friend in Canada , the time of The Great WINNOWING is upon us .
THIS is the time spoken of wherein " ... if it were possible ... even the very ELECT " will be deceived !
The Lord came NOT to bring _peace_ to the land but a SWORD , which would divide those who would remain FAITHFUL from those who would NOT - from those who have FOUND the Love of God _in_ them , from those who would NOT !
Stay TRUE to your covenants , and do what you CAN to bring those who have chosen to follow after their _own_ wants , back to Christ , but never forget the LOVE of God which is IN you .
Do what you _can_ , but NEVER forsake the TRUTH which *_you_* have SEEN and the LOVE which you have _experienced_ !
This ALONE will rise _with_ you in the LAST day , and this ALONE will be the ONE offering YOU can make to Christ sent of God , this ONE "Sacrifice" _you_ can make - the sacrifice of your _own_ life and WILL placed on the _Altar_ of YOUR COVENANTS , *your LOVE and your **_DEVOTION_* , to The LORD , _YOUR_ SAVIOR -
*Jesus Christ* !
- - -
ALL the very _BEST_ to YOU _AND_ *YOURS* , from Texas !
- Chuck .
@@TheWordsofChrist Why did god create a church that puts so much trust and power and authority in "imperfect people"? This organization relies heavily on the fact the leaders need to be of the highest moral code. Not a position you'd want to see a polygamous charlatan have, but, here we are.
Please read Section 121 of the Doctrine and Covenants again. I also believe this video short explains it well.
- th-cam.com/users/shortsy1CanpZhZZI
Thank you so much for posting this talk by Elder Bednar! I know he his talk was inspired and what we need to hear. I felt as I listened to Conference a great sense of warning. Nevertheless I FEEL JOY!
This sounds like a direct message for our country. Right now, today. It is relevant and binding on our future.
That man did his research for today's presentation!!! Kinda hitting the nail on the head you might say
THANK YOU Elder Bednar..
I need to watch myself a little closer just in case👍🏻
Another Excellent talk
Yes this is what i have been trying to say the best i can ❤
Great counsel for me to ponder and ask, "Is it I?"
Just what the members of the Church of Jesus Christ needed to hear. Just what 'main stream Mormons' need to repent of.
Just what EVERYONE needs to repent of👍🏻
In the name of Jesus Christ I submitt. Amen
Love the gospel
❤
We are the people living the Book of Mormon.. its true, Ask the why, what is this showing me and where is this leading my, our path. I am so trying, so striving to get on and remarried n on the covenant path every day,to stay on that sraight and narrow path. I can only hold fast to the rod and repent daily of any shortcomings. Known or unknown! I love The Book of Mormon. Pride has caused such strife in my very own family. Never would I have thought it possible. Its a travesty. This pride was our very fall. Now, we must repent and serve serve, serve. Humbly.
Thank you! I missed most of yesterday’s talks!
You're so welcome!
@@TheWordsofChrist - I checked out your channel , and L&S'ed right away . Seems I have a new 2nd-Source for my daily videos on topics RELEVANT to my journey , 2nd after the Church site _itself_ .
I'm confident you'll be hearing from me from time to time *_;=)) !_*
ALL the _best_ ! -
- Chuck .
If we read from the book of Helaman to the 3 Nephi chapter 11 and liken the hearts of the people to ours today you will find its the same. The events leading up to the Saviour coming to the land of bountiful will be very much the same.
Absolutely ! - FOLLOW The PROPHET !
_The time of The Great WINNOWING is upon us_ .
THIS is the time spoken of wherein " ... if it were possible ... even the very ELECT " will be deceived !
The Lord came NOT to bring _peace_ to the land , but a SWORD - which would divide those who would remain FAITHFUL , from those who would NOT - from those who have FOUND the Love of God _in_ them , from those who would NOT !
Stay TRUE to your covenants , and do what you CAN to bring those who have chosen to follow after their _own_ wants , back to Christ , but never forget the LOVE of God which is IN _you_ .
Do what you _can_ , but NEVER forsake the TRUTH which *_you_* have SEEN and the LOVE which you have _experienced_ !
This ALONE will rise _with_ you in the LAST day , and this ALONE will be the ONE offering YOU can make to Christ sent of God , this ONE "Sacrifice" _you_ can make - the sacrifice of your _own_ life and WILL placed on the _Altar_ of YOUR COVENANTS ,
*your LOVE and your **_DEVOTION_* ,
to The LORD , _YOUR_ SAVIOR -
*Jesus Christ* !
- - -
ALL the very _BEST_ to YOU _AND_ *YOURS* , from Texas !
- Chuck .
The Book of Mormon is filled with stories of missionaries and leaders having to step in and call the people in general and the members of the church specifically to repentance. That clearly included what we would call “local leaders.” I’ve seen stuff happening in the church in the last 10 years or so that are disturbing and deeply disappointing. Not many years indeed, and we are beginning to get sucked into Satan’s traps.
I agree with you.
My beloved Brothers and Sisters - FOLLOW The PROPHET !
_The time of The Great WINNOWING is upon us_ .
THIS is the time spoken of wherein " ... if it were possible ... even the very ELECT " will be deceived !
The Lord came NOT to bring _peace_ to the land , but a SWORD - which would divide those who would remain FAITHFUL , from those who would NOT - from those who have FOUND the Love of God _in_ them , from those who would NOT !
Stay TRUE to your covenants , and do what you CAN to bring those who have chosen to follow after their _own_ wants , back to Christ , but never forget the LOVE of God which is IN _you_ .
Do what you _can_ , but NEVER forsake the TRUTH which *_you_* have SEEN and the LOVE which you have _experienced_ !
This ALONE will rise _with_ you in the LAST day , and this ALONE will be the ONE offering YOU can make to Christ sent of God , this ONE "Sacrifice" _you_ can make - the sacrifice of your _own_ life and WILL placed on the _Altar_ of YOUR COVENANTS ,
*your LOVE and your **_DEVOTION_* ,
to The LORD , _YOUR_ SAVIOR -
*Jesus Christ* !
- - -
ALL the very _BEST_ to YOU _AND_ *YOURS* , from Texas !
- Chuck .
To those members who embrace the lbgtqxzw and want changes in the doctrine. Please take notice of the brethren.
Any member who supports that nonsense isn’t really a faithful or moral member.
Indeed .
They've made it COMPLETELY clear - you may see changes in POLICY on one Church topic or another - from time to time , but you will NEVER see changes in DOCTRINE Taught , _including_ the *need for* _and_ the *BLESSINGS* of RIGHTEOUS LIVING and _REPENTANCE_ .
*LGBTQIA+ or just LGBT if that’s easier for you to type out, rather than purposefully disrespecting people. Kindness is free. Jesus would agree.
It seems the Nephites represent those generational, or long-time members of the Church. The Lamanites represent more recently baptized, or those that come to the Church later in life.
All that means is that humans are generally the same, or similar, no matter the time period.
"The book of Mormon is not primarily a historical record that looks to the past."
Timestamp: 3.11 th-cam.com/video/_H5EmAY17HQ/w-d-xo.html
Wow. Just wow. That is an incredible admission by one of the 12.
Yes, it addresses both the present and the near future. While much more could be discussed, I hope this talk encourages more people to read the Book of Mormon with a fresh perspective.
@@TheWordsofChrist There is something much more profound here. One of the 12 just admitted that the Book of Mormon is an ORGANIC document, susceptible to the interpretation of the LDS church tradition, not a FACTUAL archaeologically / historically accurate document as the Bible. The LDS church has been slowly inserting wiggle room into the historicity of the Book of Mormon. David's remarks while very clever - he seems to be the smartest of the 12 -, just took a giant step in that direction.
I understand that you may not have any reason to accept what I’m sharing with you. We all have the agency to accept or reject what we believe to be true.
However, this does not change the reality of what is actually true.
One fact is clear: this TH-cam channel has over 600 videos and nearly 3.5 million views in just about 100 days. The content published represents only a tiny fraction-less than 0.01%-of the information I consume and study.
The Book of Mormon has been a lifetime study for me, and your understanding of it is quite incorrect. Elder Bednar offered listeners a unique approach to reading and studying the Book of Mormon, encouraging sincere hearts to seek revelation about our present and future.
I personally handle between 6,000 to 9,000 comments a week on this channel alone. Comments like yours are common. Sadly, we live in a time when much of what is true is perceived as false, and what is false is believed to be true. This rejection of truth is leading to the downfall of society.
The Bible sums it up perfectly in Hosea 4:6 (KJV):
"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee, that thou shalt be no priest to me: seeing thou hast forgotten the law of thy God, I will also forget thy children."
The knowledge found in the Book of Mormon has the power to save because it contains the words of Christ. While you may have heard the Book of Mormon described as "another witness of Christ," in truth, it is the original witness of Christ. The records used by the prophets to compile the Book of Mormon, commonly referred to as the brass plates, held the complete gospel. Recent discoveries affirm that the teachings of a Savior and the life of Jesus Christ were taught by prophets since the beginning.
The Old Testament lacks much of the teachings about Christ, our Father in Heaven, and our relationship as His children. This lack of core knowledge about Christ has led to further rejection of knowledge, contributing to both physical and spiritual destruction.
You might ask, "Where is the physical evidence of the Book of Mormon people?" The evidence is all around us. We walk into buildings today whose origins are often unclear, but we’re given arbitrary founding dates.
The Smithsonian Institution has collected and destroyed much of the evidence found in America that doesn't fit their narrative. If you and I walked on Nephite land today, men in black suits would appear within minutes, demanding that we leave. We are being kept from the truth intentionally. To overcome this, you must study for yourself and not accept the mainstream headlines. Any school you attend should be investigated-look into who runs or funds the institution.
Reading the Book of Mormon with a sincere heart can begin to correct the harm and misinformation we're exposed to. How? The Holy Spirit will speak to you, and the Holy Spirit only teaches truth. It cannot lie.
Once you recognize this still, small voice, you will receive answer after answer, leading you into the light of truth. The source of all truth is Jesus Christ.
As I mentioned earlier, the Smithsonian has been hoarding and even dumping shiploads of artifacts into the ocean in a massive cover-up. But they can't erase the buildings and structures left behind by the people of the Americas.
I encourage you to read the scriptures with an open mind. To begin your journey of understanding, spend some time exploring this TH-cam channel. When you're ready to consider these possibilities here mentioned, dive into the Word of God, especially the Book of Mormon.
www.youtube.com/@Mylunchbreak
I hope you take this long reply seriously. If not, please know I’ve tried to open your eyes, offering this as a friend sincerely trying to help.
I _think_ you MISSED it .
@@TheWordsofChrist - THANK you . Sincerely , THANK YOU .
_The time of The Great WINNOWING is upon us_ .
THIS is the time spoken of wherein " ... if it were possible ... even the very ELECT " will be deceived !
The Lord came NOT to bring _peace_ to the land , but a SWORD - which would divide those who would remain FAITHFUL , from those who would NOT - from those who have FOUND the Love of God _in_ them , from those who would NOT !
Stay TRUE to your covenants , and do what you CAN to bring those who have chosen to follow after their _own_ wants , back to Christ , but never forget the LOVE of God which is IN
*_YOU_* .
Do what you _can_ , but NEVER forsake the TRUTH which *_you_* have SEEN and the LOVE which you have _experienced_ !
This ALONE will rise _with_ you in the LAST day , and this ALONE will be the ONE offering YOU can make to Christ sent of God , this ONE "Sacrifice" _you_ can make - the sacrifice of your _own_ life and WILL placed on the _Altar_ of YOUR COVENANTS ,
*your LOVE and your **_DEVOTION_* ,
to The LORD , _YOUR_ SAVIOR -
*Jesus Christ* !
- - -
ALL the very _BEST_ to YOU _AND_ *YOURS* , from Texas !
_FOLLOW The PROPHET !_
- Chuck .