Did you miss the part where he said that the dealership basically fucked it up and it was a problem of the dealership, anyone who has owned an Alfa Romeo knows they are bulletproof
Hi, you are the reason I bought my QV and I can’t be more happy, adding some of your products and performance tips/parts. Thanks 🙏 for creating this content. Blessings for you and your family 🙏
I have owned several Alfas and enjoyed all of them. The engines are bullet proof as long as long as it is looked after and any rattle or knock dealt with immediately. They will always become classics.
thanks for watching and thanks for appreciating my transparency which is very hard to get today in the car world with journalist discussing cars they do not own.
Thanks for all the information and the honest review. I've been having some trouble with my QV recently. I just graduated from college, found a job, and financed a QV, my dream car. But I found it's really difficult to maintain it financially. I love the car and am trying my best to keep it for the rest of my life. Let's see how life goes.
You are a patient man. The fact that you still own this car is testament to your will and fortitude. The fact that you are an enthusiast and know how to do deal with the dealership more than your average Joe, just imagine how many owners have been lied to and definitely getting sub par service, yikes.
Great review! I bought a 2017 model, and this year I traded it in for the 2021 model, and like you mentioned I love it everytime I drive this car! It's absolutely a great car to drive! Not too many unnecessary gadgets, this is a DRIVER'S CAR!! No laptop screen sticking out the middle of the dashboard, a car where the driver is king! If I want a self-driving car I'll take a taxi or Uber! In the winter months I store it and I drive my old Dodge Ram pickup, and when spring comes and I remove it's winter cover it's like buying a new car every year! That first spring drive makes me so happy, it's like Christmas in April! lol!
Absolutely appreciate your honesty and transparency when it comes to your ownership experience. I had to let go of my 2017 Giulia after the lease ended because of electrical gremlins and terrible dealer network. My local Alfa dealer went out of business, and luckily there was one other 20 miles across town. Not sure how long that one will last. Must say, though, I loved the car.
is it highly recommended to take it to official alfa dealer, or will others work? i want to get one, but reliability issues and the closest dealers being 1-2 hours away is a concern.
Hi, your videos are rather long. You are one of the reasons I pulled the trigger and bought a new 2019 QV. I have 20k miles with no issues at all. Never seen a warning light. I did put new tires after 10K on the original tires before replacing them. My only worry has been the lack of competent mechanics at the dealerships. Also no secondary market repair shops. I love the car. I came out of a 2015 911S which had several mechanical problems that the dealer wasn't able to fix to my satisfaction. The Giulia QV is a superb car, as you said, its a once in a life time opportunity to own one of the worlds great cars.
thanks for sharing and yes so many people think the German cars are bulletproof meanwhile the service shops are packed wall to wall with them every day of the week in frustration. I had my share of BMW and AMG issues but luckily it was so easily remedied with the corporate headquarters being local and the dealers willing to do the right thing. Alfa on the other hand is such a small scale brand still and with only 2 main products to sell here I do not see things improving unless serious money was pumped into the brand.
@@autofanaticcars statistically speaking yes, and you know this. Alpha are pretty but don’t even compare them to reliability with Porsche or Mercedes. Keep up the vlogs, truly they are informative for Alpha products.
@@tsifty1 Look man we are all car people here. The only statement I agree with is that Porsche are very well made and IMHO(stats back this up) the most reliable German brand. With that let me tell you about Mercedes. They are anything but realibilbe. A Mercedes c43 AMG is this car's competitor and the cost of ownership will scare the hell out of you. Auto Fanatic's cost for his alpha ownership is nothing compared to what you will pay Daimler Mercedes to maintain a AMG sedan after warranty is over.
Guess I'm the lucky one so far. My 17' QV is getting close to 40k miles and the only issue I had was the fuel pump which was replaced under warranty. Such a shame that the dealership network just sucks...
Thank you for your honesty I have been looking for a second vehicle in which I can share with the children. However I am happy that there are true drivers out there like yourself that will enjoy the cars like an enthusiast. Unfortunately people now thinking about real estate with vehicles and instead of driving and enjoying them, they inflate prices for the real enthusiasts that will truly enjoy the experience. Looks like the next car is a QV.
"Mechanical issues...and the car has been in the shop for several months". Exactly why I have never bought this Alfa despite admiring its performance and styling. I drive a 2017 Chevrolet SS with 6-speed manual, 6.2L LS-3 V8, great suspension, handling, brakes, wonderful engine note. Chevy dealer network is huge, and I have not had ANY issues or repairs - just change the oil and oil filter. The SS is my daily driver, and I just can not own a car that is not reliable. It has been a wonderful combination of performance and reliability.
Bought a 2017 in 2019, trading in my Audi RS3. Put the Hawk street pads on at your recommendation to try to get it to behave in traffic (I’m in Westchester, too). Burned right through the front rotors :/ pilot sport AS 3 for colder weather … aaaand just traded it for a Mach 1 (baby GT350) with Handling package and Getrag 6 MT. The Alfa is ok-ish. It’s a hoot to chuck around. Very comfortable on the Highway. Pain in the ass in traffic. It feels like the torque converter never stalls out and the brake-by-wire system goes from zero to (I’d guess) 20% clamping force if you breathe on the stop pedal. This combines to make it near impossible to perform a limo stop. Can’t be consistently driven smoothly in stop-and-go traffic. Wouldn’t recommend this car. Local dealer are also a Maserati dealer and are quite snobbish. Compare this to the local Audi Sport dealer, who are sweethearts.
Thanks for all your awesome content on this car. Your testimony based on so much experience with exotics speaks volumes on how great this model is. Massive respect. I’ve had my 2017 Giulia QV for 3 years and loved every moment. I’ve had very few issues and can report that my local dealership in Sydney (McCarrolls) has provided good service. My lease and extended warranty are up in June 22 and I’ve been toying with switching to a Tesla Model 3 Performance. Your latest vid has reminded me how special this car is and now I’m reconsidering keeping her. What do you think?
The Tesla is neat but to be honest the quality is simply not there. it feels so cheap inside with all the plastic and fake materials and the exterior fit and finish is horrible. As fun as it might be I would never go that route. I reviewed one on the channel recently.
@@autofanaticcars yeah but will a Tesla owner need to get the entire front of the car taken off and 3 months of repair’s like you did with this? Most likely not.
Great video. Thanks so much for going through hell and taking us along for the ride. Not sure how the wife didn’t run out of patience and force you to get rid of it. I love my 2.0L 2018 Ti Sport the same way that you love your QV. We have a new Alfa dealership here and they are very Maserati centric as you said. Good luck and happy motoring.
Hi Phil. Another Phil here. Love your car and this video and am now a new subscriber. I recall in this video that you asked for content suggestions since you said that you won't be getting anything new in the near future with this car market so I just wanted to suggest that you should just post content of you just driving your cars on cool roads in your area--particularly this one. What I mean by that is just set up a camera maybe of you driving the car from the inside, camera set up next to the tailpipes, and a camera maybe set up on the shoulders of a hairpin turn as you drive. I don't know if that makes any sense but a channel that I used to watch called Gears and Gasoline posted just a couple of videos in a called "Just Drive" that they unfortunately only did twice but I absolutely loved and may give you some inspiration. Anyways great channel and you got yourself a new viewer. Cheers.
You are such a good story teller! This felt like the conclusion to a great novel. The extra bits of philosophy/opinion really put great context around the entire topic of Alfa and what's what. (I just got a used 2021 QV 2 weeks ago and am so happy I did.)
@@autofanaticcars Holy Moses, thanks for the rec - I can't believe I get to hear your detailed thoughts on the exact car I just got. And your customizations! My new bible!!
Amazing and informative video, and thank you for being so brutally honest about things. I currently have an E63 AMG but was seriously considering trading it in for a 2020 CPO Giulia Quad once car prices go back to normal after this damn pandemic. After watching this video I just don’t think I can do it now. You are one patient guy to tolerate all of the issues you’ve been through - I would’ve gone after AM under lemon laws. Man it sucks because it’s an absolutely beautiful car and when running they are engineering and performance masterpieces, but other than my wife’s minivan I just don’t have a backup car to drive. Anyway, thanks for the video, and if I ever win the lottery and have enough to have a hobby car this’ll be it.
yeah it wasn't easy to deal with but i have other cars and this was all during the shutdowns of our economy so it wasn't a huge deal not to have a loaner car at that time. still love the car but the dealer network just sucks all over the world
Thank you for the detail review of your experience. I have a 2017 myself and love it as much as you. My experience has been similar with the Alarm, Battery & Water issues but thank god I have not experience any mechanichal failures or breakdowns. Thank you for mentioning about the battery module and will mention to my shop to confirm it was changed. The Fuell Pump I havent experience any problems but will keep in mind as It might come up. This is a beautiful car and I have receive many compliments on it. The breakdowns however you mention are starting to concern me as in the warm season in Canada post pandemic I will be starting to do about 2KM a week traveling between Toronto & Ottawa. If the car break dows I will be screwed. Perhaps I will consider using the car only for fun and get a second vehicle but as you said I cant find any car out there to consider. I keep looking at car shows and videos and as all car companies are now focused on electric its hard and risky to decide. Maybe I get a Prius or Camry Hybrid till the technology is proven Thank you again for not giving up to the old Guilia as a true Romeo :)
Great honest review, that won’t be find that elsewhere, the good, bad and ugly… These cars are awesome and yes, have some inherent challenges… with today’s technology I really suspect most brands do. Been lucky here to have good tech support at my local dealership for my Giulia and Stelvio. This is an great honest review that won’t likely be found elsewhere, thanks for providing such a thorough video. 👍
Amazing. I've never had a warranty claim on my 2015 Acura TLX...nor had to do anything but basic maintenance. The rap sheet on this thing is crazy. Granted, I'm sure this thing is way more fun to drive when not in the shop or breaking down in the middle of the road.
this car is from the first generation no update made and still it as reliable as German competitors which have over 20 years of development, I imagine that the new Giulia are even better now
Great to hear! My videos have influenced and sold thousands of these cars in 3 years which is great but this video highlights the good the bad and reality of owning one today.
I'm driving Alfa 147 1.6 2001. Looking over this video.. man i would love to have Giulia one day.. also, never managed to watch 50 min video without a single interruption. Great job Auto Fanatic, thanks for everything you do.. and take care... 💪👍
Hi Auto fanatic. My name is Orlando from the USA living in Germany. Hey buddy, I am an Alfa lover to. I own a 2003 Alfa 147 GTA. That car is worth every penny. My car rides like on rails. You better keep that car believe me it well be a Super collector if the future all Alfas are good luck with your baby ♥️♥️🇺🇸👍🏽😜
I've driven Guilias.... doesn't even come close to a BMW... in every aspect. Moreover, (and I appreciate your transparancy), you'll never see anyone list all the crazy problems you listed with that car (at only 4 years old) with a BMW. Yeah, the G80 is more expensive to own but it sure won't give you the problems that the Guilia will - in that instance, the Guilia will cost more in financial problems over ownership time. I've seen the M3 beat that car... drag and rolling race. Don't get me wrong, I think your car is beautiful beautiful beautiful, but it's a 3 Series copy. Alfa Romeo blatantly based their design off the M3. It blew me away hearing you disclose all the issues with that 4 year old car. You saved me a huge headache (because I actually considered one) and I appreciate that, and it sucks because I LOVE Alfa. I'll stick with German high end performance. But if you enjoy your car, that is all that matters in the long run. P.S. again, your review and overview was fantastic.
I don't care what this guy or anyone else says, I will buy one of these cars. I've owned two Alfas before and never had any problems whatsoever. If you never owned an Alfa Romeo you don't know what you're missing. I know BMW M-Benz Audi Volvo and Lexus all have problems too. No car is perfect. A friend of mine has a Lexus and nothing but trouble. I am looking forward to my new Alfa Romeo Guilia QV very soon.
Your friend with the Lexus... I would like particulars on the car and him. I my years and years of automotive experience I've never come across one person complaining about a Lexus unless of course if the car was absolutely driven like garbage and never taken care of. Also I pick up on you just slamming in the Lexus badge there to just justify your live for alfa. If that's the case, you're just very passionate lol.
Fortunately we have great Alfadealers here in Luxembourg that dont break more of the car than fix. I bought my QV new in 2019, 0 issues, no warning lights or other gremlins.
great to hear the cars with most of these issues mostly are the 17 and early 18 models however the battery and voltage module can affect all years and according to the master tech he said this plus software will always solve all electrical issues. In my case parts were broke due to rough mechanics which was completely out of my control but it was a long battle to finally rectify the issues.
@@autofanaticcars but the Giulia is really worth it. I often heard storys of mechanics and dealerships that did more harm than good. Here the mechanics were send to Italy in 2016 to get trained by AR to know what to do on the Quad models.
great to hear in the USA they send techs to train domestically. I never met a modern Alfa tech who went to Italy. I know many Ferrari and Maserati techs who were trained in Italy.
Awesome, true Alfista,, I have had no issues with my giuilia ti in two years since I bought it new... except when battery went low, but she has been on a tender since and propelled me to happiness in every turn, or straight, with nothing but joy. Love your content, true passion and credible meaningful stuff. Great job and lots of luck in growing your business and the channel. Thanks.
I love mine and would not trade it for a thing in this world it was ether this or an M3 and I have a buddy that owns one and to be honest he agrees that the specs on these cars are a lot nicer and the issues seems to not occur as often as he’s M3 has issues. Telling you as long as you take good care of these cars they will last you a while.
I’m a fan of the brand and my dad owns a 91’ spider. It’s always on the jack stand lol but she’s been running well recently. Anyway I’ve been in the market for a used q4 for myself and found a 2018 going for about 28k. A few days later the price jumped to 32k! I’ve seen used 2020 q4 going for that price! The market really is a mess.
I have an 18' Giulia Ti and I went through hell fixing a variety of things through warranty like the "service electronic throttle", stuck sunroof, stop start malfunctions, headlight condensation, turbo replacement. I took months and months and my experience through several dealerships were all pretty terrible. But I LOVE the car and with all the issues fixed and there being no supply, I suddenly find that it's not worth the money to seek out another vehicle that would be significantly better than my Giulia now. Now I don't have a single problem with the car. It's what I wished it was from the very beginning and I'm not suffering markup pricing to get a car that will only improve upon it with updated infotainment and telematics. I bought it to have a good driver's car with unique styling and now it finally it is. Would I do it again? Easy, no, but it's done and I'll keep the rewards of my labor, so she's staying. The Giulia seems like a very well designed and solid car that was victimized by poor quality control. None of the issues would have been as bad as they were had it not been for the difficult dealerships that refused to participate. I'm partly curious how long this "perfect state" will hold up. Time will tell.
I do think so considering how cars like these theoretically drop like bullets in value when compared to cars like Rover, Jaguar, Bentley and Maserati but the QV is so special I think your right it will be worth considerably more money than anyone would expect now and into the future since they will never build another one like such.
FCA is simply destroying the brand the head people from Italy are no longer running the company it's all Stelantis and people from Chrysler its a disaster we are seeing right before our eyes. total shame.
Thanks for sharing your ownership experience. Anther great in depth review. I’ve owned various Alfa’s and am looking at purchasing the Giulia QV in the near future. Their dealership even here in Australia has always been terrible when it comes to service and technical knowledge. I feel privileged though as I have very close friend who is a mechanic that can fall back on. Keep up the good work.
those E46 with SMG are so cool still I love how those cars snapped your neck with those harsh shifts, I had an E60M5 and loved that about it, very analog compared to todays ultra fast DCTs.
@@autofanaticcars yes I love it! I seen it get alot of hate but I seen the odd person swearing by it so I needed to try it! I got the CSL map for it so its very drivable and as you say Analog when your driving it properly. Feel like apart of the car. Ps your video’s are great! Keep up the good work.
Holy Moley! I thought I was Alfa’s No.1 Fan…. But Phil I will relinquish that title to you! I own an Alfa 75, 156, 166 gulietta QV and my daily drive.. Stelvio diesel (with 95000kms… touch wood it’s been 100% trouble free) and I must say I have never experienced anything like you have had to put up with your QV. I agree the service network is crap! Like you mentioned, no other car is worthy of putting up with …like an Alfa Romeo… they are god damn so unique in the way they make a mechanical device with a SOUL🍀!!! I drove a Gulia QV last year 🔥🔥🔥 and am considering getting one hopefully soon…. But your video did unsettle me a wee bit… ( I want the car but the dealers /technician are dopes and need to be sent back to training!! Great video thou 👍👍👍
I had an early production 2017 2.0 model and it was an absolute joy to drive. I had constant issues with car going to limp mode and several electricial problems ( headlights flickering, not recognizing key fob) but boy was it fun! I swore never again as BMW is fun to drive and more sorted out with reliability wise…yet here I am looking at these videos again….
My first day of owning a lease 2021 guilia TI with 120 miles in the shop now... needs a new shifter due to not going into park 🙄 haha but still love it
I had a very similar experience when I purchased my brand new Mercedes AMG E63s and it had to get towed on the way home except that car proved to suck in fun factor and driving pleasure and was nothing special and still do not miss it.
@@autofanaticcars yeah I mean all manufactures have their issues so no biggie for me, but this car is a drivers car. When I traded my 370z for a benz was a huge mistake, but this car...man having a blast with it, just as fun as the 370z I use to have.
Just my personal opinion. The more issues you go together makes the bond just as much stronger 😄 In case of the Alfa, I know my car better than my wife.
A testament of what you think of the car?? Or stupidity? You just convinced me to run from the thought of purchasing a new QV. Quality service to your viewers.
Great detail and testimony as always Phil. This is indeed a special car and I miss mine already, but as we discussed, couldn't let today's pre-owned craze get in the way of logic when I received more $ for it than when I purchased 14 months prior! Hanging out through the winter and let's see where the market takes us all before next purchase. side note- what the hell happened to the Sprain Brook reservoir being depleted!? :)
Well said! Lets connect before it gets too cold out you can take mine for a spin and i know you will love it. the Sprain reservoir still has me scratching my head as to how that happened.
There’s so many tried and tested remaps that make a massive difference in the drivability and performance of the car. I appreciate the worry of further issues but speaking from my own experience I feel you are missing out massively on that. Mine has a Celtic Tuning remap on the engine and gearbox and it’s been absolutely faultless. I drive it hard in race mode everyday too so it’s certainly been put through it’s paces
problem is if something goes wrong and with the dealer support it's just too risky plus in the NYC area i can barely use the power the car has now there isn't any room around here.
@@autofanaticcars I wouldn't agree with you. I owned AUDI S5 for 5 years and never had any issue with it. I now own VW Golf R (heavily tunned) for 3 years without any issue. My Dad owns 12 year old VW Pasaat 2.0TDI with over 240k miles and never had any major issue with it.
Literally i'm speechless. This was the video I've been searching for, for years. I love this car so much and wanted to buy one just wanted a proper review to know what's the real deal behind it. Most of these foreign cars, people are scared to do actual work themselves on them and speak of the process and price.
do not be afraid of the car itself they are really well built be afraid of dealers who have improperly trained technicians which was what all of us owners seem to be facing with these cars. I do almost everything on it myself except the major stuff for warranty but since the car has been fixed it has been trouble free for long time now and I enjoy it daily
2018 QV. Never even seen a warning light. Have had 1 shock absorber replaced, 1 seat frame replaced and headlights replaced (more as a precaution). More reliable than my 1 year old Mazda CX9...
Hi how come your seat frame was replaced did it come loose when you were driving? this happened to my 2012 Cadillac CTSV with Recaro seats it drove me crazy that I designed a fix and sold it to dealers because the factory repair did not work
Great review on the Alfa, I've been looking into a future purchase for my channel, and the Alfa is a good prospect. Awesome break down of the real world experience you have with the car. Best of luck with it, you have now have another follower. Cheers!!.
Thanks for what you do. I got my wife a 21 Giulia Ti Sport Q4 back at the beginning of May and love driving it myself. I'm planning to get a QV for myself early next year...most likely a 19 - 21 since a show stopper for me would be not having the folding rear seats. Gotta be able to fit my golf clubs or mountain bike in and found out back in June I could fit my 29" mountain bike in my wife's Giulia.
Talk about patience ! My friend , that was a lot to take in but I thank you for your complete honesty ….might have been the most thorough car review I have ever seen. With that said , beautiful car with great style and power but I definitely wouldn’t have the patience for a car like this….I still have my q50 red sport because of your channel 💯
I somewhat agree but all new cars have issues. Several customers have had there brand new G80 M3 in the shop for weeks and one is now past 45 days with no parts to be found for electrical repairs and even the new Mercedes S Class which is over 2 X more expensive it is just the nature of mass manufacturing today and technicians who are not good at fixing things. if the car wasn't so good I would not have tolerated this
Here is my experience with my EU 2017 Giulia Quadrifoglio. The car now has some 50000 km. The only mechanical issue I had was a faulty fuel pressure sensor around 30000 km, replaced under warranty. After this, not a single issue, not a single CEL. I am just back from a 4000 km trip across Europe and the car has been perfect: not an issue, not a drop of oil burnt. This includes a few stints on German Autobahn at 200+ km/h. Overall, it has been a phenomenal car for me, the best I have ever had. And this includes some big-engined Audi's. No German car I have driven has the same handling, road holding, steering precision, and power delivery. The Giulia is simply in another League.
thanks for taking the time to share your amazing experiences with the Alfa Romeo QV. Most of the issues we face start out as silly small issues that get worse from bad technicians working on the cars unfortunately
È bello vedere le alfa in America, in Italia usuamo la giulia quadrifoglio come macchina della polizia ma sono solo 5 e abbiamo anche la versione manuale
Really happy with my Giulia Veloce. From our investor meetings, Alfa is getting a big bump in investment from Stellantis. Fingers crossed we start getting better support. Dealership support is an issue with all Stellantis brands, not just Alfa. I've had some of the same frustrations with my Dodge as well.
thanks for sharing so it seems whatever Stellantis touches goes to crap kinda like what Chrysler has done for over 30 years with mergers that killed brands like Lamborhini way back and Mercedes Benz.
@@autofanaticcars Stellantis has only been around for a few months. So we'll just have to see what the new leadership team does. Stellantis is talking a big talk about Alfas future. Let's see if they can walk that walk.
@@autofanaticcars Actually Mercedes was the one that killed Chrysler. You should read into it, it's a fascinating story and will make you very angry towards Daimler's attitude and mindset they had for Americans.
Guys dont forget F1. Alfa is about F1 first. Stellantis knows this and see both sales booming and F1 fans growing. I truly believe next year Alfa will boom because of its Racing presents. Who ever has been watching F1 know. Plus they have a great driver next year. Stellantis needs racing engineering. We all know Americans love these stupid Chargers and Challengers smh lol
Love my qv too much too let go had similar issues too you with my 17 not as many tho and funny ting is I’ve had mine remapped by AHM over here in England been perfect since and man the performance is unreal tunnel vision never really been on engine remaps but trust map it
As much as I like what this beautiful car has to offer, watching this video just makes me want to steer clear of all that headache and just go for a G80 M3. Not saying a M3 is perfect but never heard of em having this many issues.
There were rumors that Faurecia (that was owned by PSA) had initially many problems in manufacturing the "DeCo Display" screen for the Giulia (first application of the product). It was said that there were many parts discarded due to delamination problems.
thanks for sharing when I got the car i thought maybe when they prepped it there was plastic wrap on the dash and they were rough removing it but i have seen over a dozen of these cars with the screen issues.
I feel deeply saddened when I see people who havent had the best reliability out of this car. 19 months and 17k miles in so far and the majority of those miles are hard miles, very rarely does it go into A or N, and no issues. None. Other than the tyre wear on the rears but not the cars fault ;) Glad you can still love the car though, no matter how tough my day has been as soon as I get behind the wheel and give the loud pedal some love all my days concerns are gone. I. Love. This. Car.
Just a thought, with all the work you have personally done, you should open a shop to make others car as good as yours, just train a guy to do it like you do. The experience you’ve gained and time invested in learning the ins and outs of the car is definitely worth starting a shop over.
You're awesome. Thanks for sharing such useful info. and pls don't sell your AF! I bought a 2018 Giulia QV last year and have been loving it every moment.....I've eaten so far: BMW M3, M5, Audi S4, S5, Dodge Charger & Challenger Hellcat, Chevy Corvette Z06, and Camaro SS, Ford Mustang GT, Porsche 911 GT3, Boxster S, Cayman S, Tesla Model S & 3, New Acura NSX, New Toyota Supra, and many other AF haters.......yet to come across a Nissan Skyline GTR tho.
This video is a year old so ofc you had no idea, BUT I just did research and apparently they have turned things around and are now back so to speak, because in the future I would love to buy me one. My brother has one but it's one of the lower trim ones
Bro!! Love your video, honesty, and the car is beautiful!!! Hoewever, I'm gonna say this on your behalf, "this car sux!!"......but looks cool as hell 😂
Lovely car. I owned one Alfa Romeo and had lots of fun. Maintenance caused me to sell it. I just can’t bring myself to buy another AR as the maintenance looks like it is still a massive issue. If only this had a MT 😳?!
Alfa Romeo 🐍 and Ducati 🏍 should hire us as Consultants. If these Italian 🇮🇹 brands don't get their stuff together and get their warranty and dealership service department to handle these continual problematic situations these brands will eventually die. Brand reliability reputation is everything!
yeah most brands go to hell with the wrong management team and certain brands need real passionate car people behind it otherwise the momentum drops and fades away
Hi Phil I like your enthusiasm about Alfa, I love this brand and I saving to buy a Giulia veloce but I am not there yet. I am still positive about the future of the brand, if Mr Imparato will keep his promises to launch a new model every year and the quality is going to be good enough it could be the way out. All the best. Marco
I've owned 2011 Alfa Romeo 159 3.2 Q4 brand new from the dealership, that car was definitely love & hate situation, when it ran it was amazing, so much fun of a ride; but it just keep stinging each time again and again, i spend tens of thousands repainting it and now when i see your video I'm not glad I did not put down payment on the new Giuila knowing it has the same issues and they did not learn their lesson. it's so sad because the design and experience are so damm amazing but they just keep failing in reliability model after model
Hi Phil - Really love and appreciate your content, knowledge, style, and perspective on the various cars. You're an excellent communicator. It's because of your channel that I had the confidence to get an Alfa Romeo to replace my BMW E92 335i that was rear ended in a low speed accident. I've been a BMW guy for 43 years - I even own a few shares of BMW stock. I needed a change because the last two generations from BMW don't put a smile on my face. In May of this year I got a 2019 Giulia Ti Lusso in Monza Red/Crema with 8,500 miles that's CPO through January 2025. I think I'm about ready to order a 2022 Quadrifoglio in Etna Red. I really wish a saddle interior was offered. 1) Do you think the carbon fiber seats would increase the collector value of the car by enough to offset the extra cost? 2) Any sense of how many years the Giulia / Guilia Quadrifoglio (Giorgio platform) may be in production? Thanks!! Larry - Santa Cruz, CA
We took one in on trade that the guy bought it intending to see some mild track use, 3 engines later within a year and he traded it in for a cayman. Fun car, but god damn.
Maserati had and has an indipendent structure vs. Alfa Romeo in FCA and now Stellantis. Giorgio platform will be killed by the new CEO Carlos Tavares since they are only interested in margins and lowering production costs. The excuse is that cannot be used for an electric vehicle, that is not true since. for example, the PSA's eCMP a modified version of CMP that was not designed for hybrid or EV vehicles. Also when Mike Manley become CEO he cut all new investments on Alfa Romeo. For North America my personal opinion is that in FCA some of the former Chrysler managers made what possible to not give Alfa Romeo a chance to have better results.
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I love his when he said after the car was gone for 3 months for repairs it’s bullet proof lol
lmao
First he names 30 broken things then says bullet proof 💀
Did you miss the part where he said that the dealership basically fucked it up and it was a problem of the dealership, anyone who has owned an Alfa Romeo knows they are bulletproof
Consider this guy doesn't exactly treat his car like a normal person would.
This car sounds more like a curse. Car shutdown while on the highway 12 times. This car needs a priest not a mechanic
Hi, you are the reason I bought my QV and I can’t be more happy, adding some of your products and performance tips/parts. Thanks 🙏 for creating this content. Blessings for you and your family 🙏
Great to hear!
dont do it
Did you do it ? If so , any problems with the quadrifolio ?
I have owned several Alfas and enjoyed all of them. The engines are bullet proof as long as long as it is looked after and any rattle or knock dealt with immediately. They will always become classics.
What are these plastic pieces of junk???
classics like a yugo?
…… so they’re not bulletproof 😂😭
This unreliable maintenance nightmare will never be a classic
Phil, you are honest and I respect your enthusiasm about this specific car. More likeminded Alfisti are needed, not that many of us.
thanks for watching and thanks for appreciating my transparency which is very hard to get today in the car world with journalist discussing cars they do not own.
Glad you have it back and no issues. We have had our 2019 for one year and it gets driven every day and have had no issues.
keep enjoying it
Thanks for all the information and the honest review. I've been having some trouble with my QV recently. I just graduated from college, found a job, and financed a QV, my dream car. But I found it's really difficult to maintain it financially. I love the car and am trying my best to keep it for the rest of my life. Let's see how life goes.
Best of luck! but dont give up find a better dealer to use for service that is the biggest issue we all have
You are a patient man. The fact that you still own this car is testament to your will and fortitude. The fact that you are an enthusiast and know how to do deal with the dealership more than your average Joe, just imagine how many owners have been lied to and definitely getting sub par service, yikes.
Great review!
I bought a 2017 model, and this year I traded it in for the 2021 model, and like you mentioned I love it everytime I drive this car!
It's absolutely a great car to drive! Not too many unnecessary gadgets, this is a DRIVER'S CAR!!
No laptop screen sticking out the middle of the dashboard, a car where the driver is king! If I want a self-driving car I'll take a taxi or Uber! In the winter months I store it and I drive my old Dodge Ram pickup, and when spring comes and I remove it's winter cover it's like buying a new car every year!
That first spring drive makes me so happy, it's like Christmas in April! lol!
Absolutely appreciate your honesty and transparency when it comes to your ownership experience. I had to let go of my 2017 Giulia after the lease ended because of electrical gremlins and terrible dealer network. My local Alfa dealer went out of business, and luckily there was one other 20 miles across town. Not sure how long that one will last. Must say, though, I loved the car.
is it highly recommended to take it to official alfa dealer, or will others work?
i want to get one, but reliability issues and the closest dealers being 1-2 hours away is a concern.
I am planning to order one very soon. Would you recommend especially being from North America
You MUST live in Texas, specfically the DFW area?
So would you not recommend them because of reliability?
It's hard to stay in business with just 2 models
Hi, your videos are rather long. You are one of the reasons I pulled the trigger and bought a new 2019 QV. I have 20k miles with no issues at all. Never seen a warning light. I did put new tires after 10K on the original tires before replacing them. My only worry has been the lack of competent mechanics at the dealerships. Also no secondary market repair shops. I love the car. I came out of a 2015 911S which had several mechanical problems that the dealer wasn't able to fix to my satisfaction. The Giulia QV is a superb car, as you said, its a once in a life time opportunity to own one of the worlds great cars.
thanks for sharing and yes so many people think the German cars are bulletproof meanwhile the service shops are packed wall to wall with them every day of the week in frustration. I had my share of BMW and AMG issues but luckily it was so easily remedied with the corporate headquarters being local and the dealers willing to do the right thing. Alfa on the other hand is such a small scale brand still and with only 2 main products to sell here I do not see things improving unless serious money was pumped into the brand.
10 min in to this vlog, I was convinced not worth the investment. Thank you for giving us your honest opinion.
if you think a German car will be more reliable your kidding yourself
@@autofanaticcars statistically speaking yes, and you know this. Alpha are pretty but don’t even compare them to reliability with Porsche or Mercedes. Keep up the vlogs, truly they are informative for Alpha products.
@@tsifty1 No, you have no idea what are you talking about.
Very nice car, but way too much trouble. I might as well buy a Lexus IS 500 or TL-S and call it a day. LOL!
@@tsifty1 Look man we are all car people here. The only statement I agree with is that Porsche are very well made and IMHO(stats back this up) the most reliable German brand. With that let me tell you about Mercedes. They are anything but realibilbe. A Mercedes c43 AMG is this car's competitor and the cost of ownership will scare the hell out of you. Auto Fanatic's cost for his alpha ownership is nothing compared to what you will pay Daimler Mercedes to maintain a AMG sedan after warranty is over.
Guess I'm the lucky one so far. My 17' QV is getting close to 40k miles and the only issue I had was the fuel pump which was replaced under warranty. Such a shame that the dealership network just sucks...
i love this car, definitely one of my dream cars
Thank you for your honesty I have been looking for a second vehicle in which I can share with the children. However I am happy that there are true drivers out there like yourself that will enjoy the cars like an enthusiast. Unfortunately people now thinking about real estate with vehicles and instead of driving and enjoying them, they inflate prices for the real enthusiasts that will truly enjoy the experience. Looks like the next car is a QV.
"Mechanical issues...and the car has been in the shop for several months". Exactly why I have never bought this Alfa despite admiring its performance and styling. I drive a 2017 Chevrolet SS with 6-speed manual, 6.2L LS-3 V8, great suspension, handling, brakes, wonderful engine note. Chevy dealer network is huge, and I have not had ANY issues or repairs - just change the oil and oil filter. The SS is my daily driver, and I just can not own a car that is not reliable. It has been a wonderful combination of performance and reliability.
Dude watches a 50 minutes video to base it off of 1 sentence
@@nin_otv7528 its true though...... Alfa is well known to have issues like that....lol
@@nin_otv7528 most of 50 minutes was issues
I know of plenty of people with German cars that have constant issues so what’s your point?
Bought a 2017 in 2019, trading in my Audi RS3. Put the Hawk street pads on at your recommendation to try to get it to behave in traffic (I’m in Westchester, too). Burned right through the front rotors :/ pilot sport AS 3 for colder weather … aaaand just traded it for a Mach 1 (baby GT350) with Handling package and Getrag 6 MT. The Alfa is ok-ish. It’s a hoot to chuck around. Very comfortable on the Highway. Pain in the ass in traffic. It feels like the torque converter never stalls out and the brake-by-wire system goes from zero to (I’d guess) 20% clamping force if you breathe on the stop pedal. This combines to make it near impossible to perform a limo stop. Can’t be consistently driven smoothly in stop-and-go traffic. Wouldn’t recommend this car. Local dealer are also a Maserati dealer and are quite snobbish. Compare this to the local Audi Sport dealer, who are sweethearts.
Thanks for all your awesome content on this car. Your testimony based on so much experience with exotics speaks volumes on how great this model is. Massive respect. I’ve had my 2017 Giulia QV for 3 years and loved every moment. I’ve had very few issues and can report that my local dealership in Sydney (McCarrolls) has provided good service. My lease and extended warranty are up in June 22 and I’ve been toying with switching to a Tesla Model 3 Performance. Your latest vid has reminded me how special this car is and now I’m reconsidering keeping her. What do you think?
The Tesla is neat but to be honest the quality is simply not there. it feels so cheap inside with all the plastic and fake materials and the exterior fit and finish is horrible. As fun as it might be I would never go that route. I reviewed one on the channel recently.
going fro the qv to a tesla will be quite the downgrade my friend
@@autofanaticcars yeah but will a Tesla owner need to get the entire front of the car taken off and 3 months of repair’s like you did with this? Most likely not.
@@TATTEDGAY lol Teslas are a joke and are not reliable.
DO. NOT. BUY. A. TESLA. Buy a car with soul, while you still can.
Great video. Thanks so much for going through hell and taking us along for the ride. Not sure how the wife didn’t run out of patience and force you to get rid of it. I love my 2.0L 2018 Ti Sport the same way that you love your QV. We have a new Alfa dealership here and they are very Maserati centric as you said. Good luck and happy motoring.
Glad you enjoyed it
Hi Phil. Another Phil here. Love your car and this video and am now a new subscriber. I recall in this video that you asked for content suggestions since you said that you won't be getting anything new in the near future with this car market so I just wanted to suggest that you should just post content of you just driving your cars on cool roads in your area--particularly this one. What I mean by that is just set up a camera maybe of you driving the car from the inside, camera set up next to the tailpipes, and a camera maybe set up on the shoulders of a hairpin turn as you drive. I don't know if that makes any sense but a channel that I used to watch called Gears and Gasoline posted just a couple of videos in a called "Just Drive" that they unfortunately only did twice but I absolutely loved and may give you some inspiration. Anyways great channel and you got yourself a new viewer.
Cheers.
You are such a good story teller! This felt like the conclusion to a great novel. The extra bits of philosophy/opinion really put great context around the entire topic of Alfa and what's what. (I just got a used 2021 QV 2 weeks ago and am so happy I did.)
Glad you enjoyed it! Enjoy the car and watch my video on how I modified my 2021 QV it truly transforms the car and I highly suggest you go that route.
@@autofanaticcars Holy Moses, thanks for the rec - I can't believe I get to hear your detailed thoughts on the exact car I just got. And your customizations! My new bible!!
Amazing and informative video, and thank you for being so brutally honest about things. I currently have an E63 AMG but was seriously considering trading it in for a 2020 CPO Giulia Quad once car prices go back to normal after this damn pandemic. After watching this video I just don’t think I can do it now. You are one patient guy to tolerate all of the issues you’ve been through - I would’ve gone after AM under lemon laws. Man it sucks because it’s an absolutely beautiful car and when running they are engineering and performance masterpieces, but other than my wife’s minivan I just don’t have a backup car to drive. Anyway, thanks for the video, and if I ever win the lottery and have enough to have a hobby car this’ll be it.
yeah it wasn't easy to deal with but i have other cars and this was all during the shutdowns of our economy so it wasn't a huge deal not to have a loaner car at that time. still love the car but the dealer network just sucks all over the world
What an absolute beauty !
💯
Thank you for the detail review of your experience. I have a 2017 myself and love it as much as you. My experience has been similar with the Alarm, Battery & Water issues but thank god I have not experience any mechanichal failures or breakdowns. Thank you for mentioning about the battery module and will mention to my shop to confirm it was changed. The Fuell Pump I havent experience any problems but will keep in mind as It might come up. This is a beautiful car and I have receive many compliments on it. The breakdowns however you mention are starting to concern me as in the warm season in Canada post pandemic I will be starting to do about 2KM a week traveling between Toronto & Ottawa. If the car break dows I will be screwed.
Perhaps I will consider using the car only for fun and get a second vehicle but as you said I cant find any car out there to consider.
I keep looking at car shows and videos and as all car companies are now focused on electric its hard and risky to decide. Maybe I get a Prius or Camry Hybrid till the technology is proven
Thank you again for not giving up to the old Guilia as a true Romeo :)
Awesome keep enjoying your car.
its important to note that electric motors are much simpler than combustion engines, and electric motors aren't really a "new" technology either.
Great honest review, that won’t be find that elsewhere, the good, bad and ugly… These cars are awesome and yes, have some inherent challenges… with today’s technology I really suspect most brands do. Been lucky here to have good tech support at my local dealership for my Giulia and Stelvio. This is an great honest review that won’t likely be found elsewhere, thanks for providing such a thorough video. 👍
Amazing. I've never had a warranty claim on my 2015 Acura TLX...nor had to do anything but basic maintenance. The rap sheet on this thing is crazy. Granted, I'm sure this thing is way more fun to drive when not in the shop or breaking down in the middle of the road.
it comes with the territory of a european performance car
this car is from the first generation no update made and still it as reliable as German competitors which have over 20 years of development, I imagine that the new Giulia are even better now
Just bought a Stelvio QF because of your review on both the Guilia and Stelvio. Thank you 💪😎
Enjoy!
Love your channel, which is another way of saying I respect you and your approach, honesty, and passion for not just Alfa but sport cars in general.
I am one of the few who after looking at your videos decided to get. Giulia Q. Thanks 🙏🏻
Great to hear! My videos have influenced and sold thousands of these cars in 3 years which is great but this video highlights the good the bad and reality of owning one today.
I'm driving Alfa 147 1.6 2001.
Looking over this video.. man i would love to have Giulia one day.. also, never managed to watch 50 min video without a single interruption. Great job Auto Fanatic, thanks for everything you do.. and take care... 💪👍
glad you enjoyed it
Hi Auto fanatic. My name is Orlando from the USA living in Germany. Hey buddy, I am an Alfa lover to. I own a 2003 Alfa 147 GTA. That car is worth every penny. My car rides like on rails. You better keep that car believe me it well be a Super collector if the future all Alfas are good luck with your baby ♥️♥️🇺🇸👍🏽😜
I've driven Guilias.... doesn't even come close to a BMW... in every aspect. Moreover, (and I appreciate your transparancy), you'll never see anyone list all the crazy problems you listed with that car (at only 4 years old) with a BMW. Yeah, the G80 is more expensive to own but it sure won't give you the problems that the Guilia will - in that instance, the Guilia will cost more in financial problems over ownership time. I've seen the M3 beat that car... drag and rolling race. Don't get me wrong, I think your car is beautiful beautiful beautiful, but it's a 3 Series copy. Alfa Romeo blatantly based their design off the M3. It blew me away hearing you disclose all the issues with that 4 year old car. You saved me a huge headache (because I actually considered one) and I appreciate that, and it sucks because I LOVE Alfa. I'll stick with German high end performance. But if you enjoy your car, that is all that matters in the long run. P.S. again, your review and overview was fantastic.
I don't care what this guy or anyone else says, I will buy one of these cars. I've owned two Alfas before and never had any problems whatsoever. If you never owned an Alfa Romeo you don't know what you're missing. I know BMW M-Benz Audi Volvo and Lexus all have problems too. No car is perfect. A friend of mine has a Lexus and nothing but trouble. I am looking forward to my new Alfa Romeo Guilia QV very soon.
Your friend with the Lexus... I would like particulars on the car and him. I my years and years of automotive experience I've never come across one person complaining about a Lexus unless of course if the car was absolutely driven like garbage and never taken care of. Also I pick up on you just slamming in the Lexus badge there to just justify your live for alfa. If that's the case, you're just very passionate lol.
That car is the dogs balls lad. Simply stunning.
thanks watch my 4 year ownership video posted two weeks back, still loving the car.
Fortunately we have great Alfadealers here in Luxembourg that dont break more of the car than fix. I bought my QV new in 2019, 0 issues, no warning lights or other gremlins.
great to hear the cars with most of these issues mostly are the 17 and early 18 models however the battery and voltage module can affect all years and according to the master tech he said this plus software will always solve all electrical issues. In my case parts were broke due to rough mechanics which was completely out of my control but it was a long battle to finally rectify the issues.
@@autofanaticcars but the Giulia is really worth it. I often heard storys of mechanics and dealerships that did more harm than good. Here the mechanics were send to Italy in 2016 to get trained by AR to know what to do on the Quad models.
great to hear in the USA they send techs to train domestically. I never met a modern Alfa tech who went to Italy. I know many Ferrari and Maserati techs who were trained in Italy.
Great video again. How many miles you got on the car after these 3 years?
Awesome, true Alfista,, I have had no issues with my giuilia ti in two years since I bought it new... except when battery went low, but she has been on a tender since and propelled me to happiness in every turn, or straight, with nothing but joy. Love your content, true passion and credible meaningful stuff. Great job and lots of luck in growing your business and the channel. Thanks.
I love mine and would not trade it for a thing in this world it was ether this or an M3 and I have a buddy that owns one and to be honest he agrees that the specs on these cars are a lot nicer and the issues seems to not occur as often as he’s M3 has issues. Telling you as long as you take good care of these cars they will last you a while.
I’m a fan of the brand and my dad owns a 91’ spider. It’s always on the jack stand lol but she’s been running well recently. Anyway I’ve been in the market for a used q4 for myself and found a 2018 going for about 28k. A few days later the price jumped to 32k! I’ve seen used 2020 q4 going for that price! The market really is a mess.
Inflation happened
Chip shortage is reducing production of new cars so demand for used cars went up.
I have an 18' Giulia Ti and I went through hell fixing a variety of things through warranty like the "service electronic throttle", stuck sunroof, stop start malfunctions, headlight condensation, turbo replacement. I took months and months and my experience through several dealerships were all pretty terrible. But I LOVE the car and with all the issues fixed and there being no supply, I suddenly find that it's not worth the money to seek out another vehicle that would be significantly better than my Giulia now. Now I don't have a single problem with the car. It's what I wished it was from the very beginning and I'm not suffering markup pricing to get a car that will only improve upon it with updated infotainment and telematics. I bought it to have a good driver's car with unique styling and now it finally it is.
Would I do it again? Easy, no, but it's done and I'll keep the rewards of my labor, so she's staying. The Giulia seems like a very well designed and solid car that was victimized by poor quality control. None of the issues would have been as bad as they were had it not been for the difficult dealerships that refused to participate. I'm partly curious how long this "perfect state" will hold up. Time will tell.
thank you for sharing your experience with the community but it is a shame how the dealer networks are ruining the ownership experience for us all.
Without a doubt the QV will be a collectors car.
I do think so considering how cars like these theoretically drop like bullets in value when compared to cars like Rover, Jaguar, Bentley and Maserati but the QV is so special I think your right it will be worth considerably more money than anyone would expect now and into the future since they will never build another one like such.
FCA is simply destroying the brand the head people from Italy are no longer running the company it's all Stelantis and people from Chrysler its a disaster we are seeing right before our eyes. total shame.
Thanks for sharing your ownership experience. Anther great in depth review. I’ve owned various Alfa’s and am looking at purchasing the Giulia QV in the near future. Their dealership even here in Australia has always been terrible when it comes to service and technical knowledge. I feel privileged though as I have very close friend who is a mechanic that can fall back on. Keep up the good work.
I just got a E46 m3 SMG, been a dream for years and finally got it. Absolutely love it. This is next on the list loved it since it came out in 2017.
those E46 with SMG are so cool still I love how those cars snapped your neck with those harsh shifts, I had an E60M5 and loved that about it, very analog compared to todays ultra fast DCTs.
@@autofanaticcars yes I love it! I seen it get alot of hate but I seen the odd person swearing by it so I needed to try it! I got the CSL map for it so its very drivable and as you say Analog when your driving it properly. Feel like apart of the car. Ps your video’s are great! Keep up the good work.
I really like ur vids explaining everything about Alfa’s but I’ve never driven one. Looking forward to drive one someday to feel the power.
Holy Moley! I thought I was Alfa’s No.1 Fan…. But Phil I will relinquish that title to you!
I own an Alfa 75, 156, 166
gulietta QV and my daily drive.. Stelvio diesel (with 95000kms… touch wood it’s been 100% trouble free) and I must say I have never experienced anything like you have had to put up with your QV.
I agree the service network is crap!
Like you mentioned, no other car is worthy of putting up with …like an Alfa Romeo… they are god damn so unique in the way they make a mechanical device with a SOUL🍀!!!
I drove a Gulia QV last year 🔥🔥🔥 and am considering getting one hopefully soon…. But your video did unsettle me a wee bit… ( I want the car but the dealers /technician are dopes and need to be sent back to training!!
Great video thou 👍👍👍
Fast forward, and now you have a gorgeous red Alfa. Congrats! It looks amazing!!!
My second red Alfa Romeo 😎
I had an early production 2017 2.0 model and it was an absolute joy to drive. I had constant issues with car going to limp mode and several electricial problems ( headlights flickering, not recognizing key fob) but boy was it fun! I swore never again as BMW is fun to drive and more sorted out with reliability wise…yet here I am looking at these videos again….
Join the club i was forced to dump my 18 QV for new M3 now im selling M3 i just dont love it and might buy a 2024 QV i guess we are both nuts lol
My first day of owning a lease 2021 guilia TI with 120 miles in the shop now... needs a new shifter due to not going into park 🙄 haha but still love it
I had a very similar experience when I purchased my brand new Mercedes AMG E63s and it had to get towed on the way home except that car proved to suck in fun factor and driving pleasure and was nothing special and still do not miss it.
@@autofanaticcars yeah I mean all manufactures have their issues so no biggie for me, but this car is a drivers car. When I traded my 370z for a benz was a huge mistake, but this car...man having a blast with it, just as fun as the 370z I use to have.
Just my personal opinion. The more issues you go together makes the bond just as much stronger 😄 In case of the Alfa, I know my car better than my wife.
ha ha ha thats great enjoy it
A testament of what you think of the car?? Or stupidity? You just convinced me to run from the thought of purchasing a new QV. Quality service to your viewers.
It sounds like half or more of your problems were the result of incompetent techs.
Great detail and testimony as always Phil. This is indeed a special car and I miss mine already, but as we discussed, couldn't let today's pre-owned craze get in the way of logic when I received more $ for it than when I purchased 14 months prior! Hanging out through the winter and let's see where the market takes us all before next purchase. side note- what the hell happened to the Sprain Brook reservoir being depleted!? :)
Well said! Lets connect before it gets too cold out you can take mine for a spin and i know you will love it. the Sprain reservoir still has me scratching my head as to how that happened.
There’s so many tried and tested remaps that make a massive difference in the drivability and performance of the car.
I appreciate the worry of further issues but speaking from my own experience I feel you are missing out massively on that.
Mine has a Celtic Tuning remap on the engine and gearbox and it’s been absolutely faultless.
I drive it hard in race mode everyday too so it’s certainly been put through it’s paces
problem is if something goes wrong and with the dealer support it's just too risky plus in the NYC area i can barely use the power the car has now there isn't any room around here.
I like your channel because of this car, one day I will get one!!
Love your passion!
thanks Steve
I was considering buying this car for some time, but thanks to your video i've learned that you should run from Alfa as far as you can...
you will have far more problems with a German car and a not the same driving experience so the choice is yours.
@@autofanaticcars I wouldn't agree with you. I owned AUDI S5 for 5 years and never had any issue with it. I now own VW Golf R (heavily tunned) for 3 years without any issue. My Dad owns 12 year old VW Pasaat 2.0TDI with over 240k miles and never had any major issue with it.
@@APARAT79 you a lucky man. An Audi for 5 years? Crazy
Literally i'm speechless. This was the video I've been searching for, for years. I love this car so much and wanted to buy one just wanted a proper review to know what's the real deal behind it. Most of these foreign cars, people are scared to do actual work themselves on them and speak of the process and price.
do not be afraid of the car itself they are really well built be afraid of dealers who have improperly trained technicians which was what all of us owners seem to be facing with these cars. I do almost everything on it myself except the major stuff for warranty but since the car has been fixed it has been trouble free for long time now and I enjoy it daily
2018 QV. Never even seen a warning light. Have had 1 shock absorber replaced, 1 seat frame replaced and headlights replaced (more as a precaution). More reliable than my 1 year old Mazda CX9...
Hi how come your seat frame was replaced did it come loose when you were driving? this happened to my 2012 Cadillac CTSV with Recaro seats it drove me crazy that I designed a fix and sold it to dealers because the factory repair did not work
@@autofanaticcars No, it was making a creaking noise. Was still working perfectly well.
This is super info. Hands on... Great job. I will order the fire extinguisher asap.
Awesome! Thank you!
Great review on the Alfa, I've been looking into a future purchase for my channel, and the Alfa is a good prospect. Awesome break down of the real world experience you have with the car. Best of luck with it, you have now have another follower. Cheers!!.
Thanks! 👍
Thanks for what you do. I got my wife a 21 Giulia Ti Sport Q4 back at the beginning of May and love driving it myself. I'm planning to get a QV for myself early next year...most likely a 19 - 21 since a show stopper for me would be not having the folding rear seats. Gotta be able to fit my golf clubs or mountain bike in and found out back in June I could fit my 29" mountain bike in my wife's Giulia.
Right on!
Holy crap! I found your channel after a whole year!
Well got some good news I’m get Alfa Romeo guilia veloce on 15th 🙈🙈😊 finally I can afford a guilia
Talk about patience ! My friend , that was a lot to take in but I thank you for your complete honesty ….might have been the most thorough car review I have ever seen. With that said , beautiful car with great style and power but I definitely wouldn’t have the patience for a car like this….I still have my q50 red sport because of your channel 💯
Thanks 👍
Black in anything looks so rich n amazing like the color on that car...
You're a patient man. When you pay over 60k for a vehicle, there is no reason for the car to not run to normal expectations.
I somewhat agree but all new cars have issues. Several customers have had there brand new G80 M3 in the shop for weeks and one is now past 45 days with no parts to be found for electrical repairs and even the new Mercedes S Class which is over 2 X more expensive it is just the nature of mass manufacturing today and technicians who are not good at fixing things. if the car wasn't so good I would not have tolerated this
Here is my experience with my EU 2017 Giulia Quadrifoglio. The car now has some 50000 km. The only mechanical issue I had was a faulty fuel pressure sensor around 30000 km, replaced under warranty. After this, not a single issue, not a single CEL. I am just back from a 4000 km trip across Europe and the car has been perfect: not an issue, not a drop of oil burnt. This includes a few stints on German Autobahn at 200+ km/h. Overall, it has been a phenomenal car for me, the best I have ever had. And this includes some big-engined Audi's. No German car I have driven has the same handling, road holding, steering precision, and power delivery. The Giulia is simply in another League.
thanks for taking the time to share your amazing experiences with the Alfa Romeo QV. Most of the issues we face start out as silly small issues that get worse from bad technicians working on the cars unfortunately
È bello vedere le alfa in America, in Italia usuamo la giulia quadrifoglio come macchina della polizia ma sono solo 5 e abbiamo anche la versione manuale
Really happy with my Giulia Veloce. From our investor meetings, Alfa is getting a big bump in investment from Stellantis. Fingers crossed we start getting better support. Dealership support is an issue with all Stellantis brands, not just Alfa. I've had some of the same frustrations with my Dodge as well.
thanks for sharing so it seems whatever Stellantis touches goes to crap kinda like what Chrysler has done for over 30 years with mergers that killed brands like Lamborhini way back and Mercedes Benz.
@@autofanaticcars Stellantis has only been around for a few months. So we'll just have to see what the new leadership team does. Stellantis is talking a big talk about Alfas future. Let's see if they can walk that walk.
@@autofanaticcars Actually Mercedes was the one that killed Chrysler. You should read into it, it's a fascinating story and will make you very angry towards Daimler's attitude and mindset they had for Americans.
Guys dont forget F1. Alfa is about F1 first. Stellantis knows this and see both sales booming and F1 fans growing. I truly believe next year Alfa will boom because of its Racing presents. Who ever has been watching F1 know. Plus they have a great driver next year. Stellantis needs racing engineering. We all know Americans love these stupid Chargers and Challengers smh lol
Love my qv too much too let go had similar issues too you with my 17 not as many tho and funny ting is I’ve had mine remapped by AHM over here in England been perfect since and man the performance is unreal tunnel vision never really been on engine remaps but trust map it
As much as I like what this beautiful car has to offer, watching this video just makes me want to steer clear of all that headache and just go for a G80 M3. Not saying a M3 is perfect but never heard of em having this many issues.
Bought a G80 just sold it and bought another Alfa the risk outweighs the reward the BMW is a great car but zero emotion in it
I was missing my QV the other day and went on Alfa's website. They are exhilarating to drive, I will admit.
There were rumors that Faurecia (that was owned by PSA) had initially many problems in manufacturing the "DeCo Display" screen for the Giulia (first application of the product).
It was said that there were many parts discarded due to delamination problems.
thanks for sharing when I got the car i thought maybe when they prepped it there was plastic wrap on the dash and they were rough removing it but i have seen over a dozen of these cars with the screen issues.
had 3 alfas, drives like nothing else, but need to have own garage and maintenance skills
I feel deeply saddened when I see people who havent had the best reliability out of this car. 19 months and 17k miles in so far and the majority of those miles are hard miles, very rarely does it go into A or N, and no issues. None. Other than the tyre wear on the rears but not the cars fault ;) Glad you can still love the car though, no matter how tough my day has been as soon as I get behind the wheel and give the loud pedal some love all my days concerns are gone. I. Love. This. Car.
thanks for sharing, as this video highlights most issues were inflicted by dealer technicians not the Alfa factor who assembled my car.
Your Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio looks beautiful and seems exhilarating to drive.
Just a thought, with all the work you have personally done, you should open a shop to make others car as good as yours, just train a guy to do it like you do. The experience you’ve gained and time invested in learning the ins and outs of the car is definitely worth starting a shop over.
Love the QV...new definition here for "bullet proof"....Chrysler/Fiat version.
You're awesome. Thanks for sharing such useful info. and pls don't sell your AF! I bought a 2018 Giulia QV last year and have been loving it every moment.....I've eaten so far: BMW M3, M5, Audi S4, S5, Dodge Charger & Challenger Hellcat, Chevy Corvette Z06, and Camaro SS, Ford Mustang GT, Porsche 911 GT3, Boxster S, Cayman S, Tesla Model S & 3, New Acura NSX, New Toyota Supra, and many other AF haters.......yet to come across a Nissan Skyline GTR tho.
This video is a year old so ofc you had no idea, BUT I just did research and apparently they have turned things around and are now back so to speak, because in the future I would love to buy me one. My brother has one but it's one of the lower trim ones
Your heard incorrectly Alfa dealerships are closing up all over the USA and beyond each month its a terrible sign for the future of the brand
Another great video. We need more content on the GT350R.
More to come ive been so busy lately but will be doing more Shelby content soon enough.
Do you think the 2020 models are more reliable since they somewhat did some upgrades to it?
Im not certain on that the issue is not always the car but the incompetent people who work on them that cause most of the issues
I am still not clear on what was wrong with the ST spings. Would you recommend them for a MY2023. thank you and amazing vid. very informative
Wot a video mate 🔥🔥🔥
Bro!! Love your video, honesty, and the car is beautiful!!! Hoewever, I'm gonna say this on your behalf, "this car sux!!"......but looks cool as hell 😂
Very valuable information on display here. Thank you.
Any thoughts on the 2023? Should I expect to have all of these issues?
Lovely car. I owned one Alfa Romeo and had lots of fun. Maintenance caused me to sell it. I just can’t bring myself to buy another AR as the maintenance looks like it is still a massive issue. If only this had a MT 😳?!
I must be crazy since I still own this car but love it
Alfa Romeo 🐍 and Ducati 🏍 should hire us as Consultants. If these Italian 🇮🇹 brands don't get their stuff together and get their warranty and dealership service department to handle these continual problematic situations these brands will eventually die. Brand reliability reputation is everything!
yeah most brands go to hell with the wrong management team and certain brands need real passionate car people behind it otherwise the momentum drops and fades away
1:17 "You can tell it's a little loud in here" *drives with 5000k rpms
Going to be getting a QF soon as well. Great content, Subscribed.
Appreciate it!
I love the Stelvio Quad-hope it doesn't have as many issues as your Giulia, but it looks like you've got it all squared away. Nice Giulia!
Hi Phil I like your enthusiasm about Alfa, I love this brand and I saving to buy a Giulia veloce but I am not there yet. I am still positive about the future of the brand, if Mr Imparato will keep his promises to launch a new model every year and the quality is going to be good enough it could be the way out.
All the best.
Marco
Go for it!
this is my dad's dream ride
I've owned 2011 Alfa Romeo 159 3.2 Q4 brand new from the dealership, that car was definitely love & hate situation, when it ran it was amazing, so much fun of a ride; but it just keep stinging each time again and again, i spend tens of thousands repainting it and now when i see your video I'm not glad I did not put down payment on the new Giuila knowing it has the same issues and they did not learn their lesson.
it's so sad because the design and experience are so damm amazing but they just keep failing in reliability model after model
See you’re riding in the saw mill westchester’s where it’s at! I know I’ve seen this QV somewhere. You live in my area lol.
Hi Phil - Really love and appreciate your content, knowledge, style, and perspective on the various cars. You're an excellent communicator. It's because of your channel that I had the confidence to get an Alfa Romeo to replace my BMW E92 335i that was rear ended in a low speed accident. I've been a BMW guy for 43 years - I even own a few shares of BMW stock. I needed a change because the last two generations from BMW don't put a smile on my face. In May of this year I got a 2019 Giulia Ti Lusso in Monza Red/Crema with 8,500 miles that's CPO through January 2025. I think I'm about ready to order a 2022 Quadrifoglio in Etna Red. I really wish a saddle interior was offered. 1) Do you think the carbon fiber seats would increase the collector value of the car by enough to offset the extra cost? 2) Any sense of how many years the Giulia / Guilia Quadrifoglio (Giorgio platform) may be in production? Thanks!! Larry - Santa Cruz, CA
do the seats no matter what it costs
We took one in on trade that the guy bought it intending to see some mild track use, 3 engines later within a year and he traded it in for a cayman. Fun car, but god damn.
Maserati had and has an indipendent structure vs. Alfa Romeo in FCA and now Stellantis.
Giorgio platform will be killed by the new CEO Carlos Tavares since they are only interested in margins and lowering production costs. The excuse is that cannot be used for an electric vehicle, that is not true since. for example, the PSA's eCMP a modified version of CMP that was not designed for hybrid or EV vehicles.
Also when Mike Manley become CEO he cut all new investments on Alfa Romeo.
For North America my personal opinion is that in FCA some of the former Chrysler managers made what possible to not give Alfa Romeo a chance to have better results.
Can't wait to get a Stelvio.
Going for a used one that might've been just out of lease. Tons of em all over the place.