This is hands-down the best comparative analysis/showdown I've seen on this subject. Thanks for doing the work of breaking down the data and specs to help us get a good, meaningful understanding of differences, pros/cons, etc. Subscribed 🤘🏽
ToneX you need the Capture box so add another $250 to the price. If you don't get it, you need a load box, and possibly a reamp box from what I've seen, but IK is pretty dodgy on what you really need.
Transpose and pitch shifter effects are basically the same thing, should be in the same line imo, but anyway, the comparison you did is brilliant. I would add “screen availability” as a feature to compare, as many players already claimed that they need a screen to know what preset is on, which is available in tonex and kemper, but not in nanocortex.
Completely agree with your comments about the teaser non-teaser video. It wasn’t good on any level - as a non-promotional video it had no value and as a teaser video providing info about a product it was worthless. Btw I am not a neuraldsp hater as I have a QC x 3+years and most of their plugins. But just think they should respect their customer base more…..
I just saw KDH’s video on all this as well, great points. Yeah I own a bunch of their plugins and will probably end up with a qc. Skipping the nano cortex for now but no shade on it I can see it working for the right person. But yeah that marketing really didn’t help.
Cool comparison! I’m deciding between nano and kemper player. I know that you can’t stream music from your phone with Bluetooth on nanocortex but can you stream music via USB C from the phone?(not from the laptop) Cheers
The only people I've seen defend it are die hard NDSP fans... I've spoken to like 20 non forum non guitar nerds, studio guys or old friends / bandmates and they were all like... wth was that....
@@ampspedalspickups I just capture the amp head through the torpedo capture line out. those captures come out the best, then I run it in the return of my 6505 for 6l6's or my DSL for EL34's
NDSP sounds great to my ears, not sure why so many have issues with it. HX takes work but can get there. Haven't tried Kemper too much and ToneX I struggle with the most.
@@ampspedalspickups If you're using Windows 11 try Disabling Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling. Change the default graphics settings and set this to off. This will speed the training up significantly. For me the times are Fast 50 seconds Default 2m 30s. Advanced 8m 50s on a RTX 4090. With Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling on those times near double on my setup
Im still getting mixed/bad results with ToneX on high gain models. I'll try those windows settings cause if it massively speeds it up I might try it again. Waiting around for 30-40mins to find out a model is meh is such a ballbuster... if its only 15 minutes it speeds things up massively.
Nice to see a non hyped shilly video of a new product haha. Don't think I'll ever go down the digital route myself though...
This is hands-down the best comparative analysis/showdown I've seen on this subject. Thanks for doing the work of breaking down the data and specs to help us get a good, meaningful understanding of differences, pros/cons, etc. Subscribed 🤘🏽
Legend 💪💪💪
dimehead Nam player has an optional FX Loop/Insert since the 2nd batch ;)
Thats pretty cool
I see "showdown" & I expect to hear the pedals. Clickbait.
Another banger of a video, my boy.
ToneX you need the Capture box so add another $250 to the price. If you don't get it, you need a load box, and possibly a reamp box from what I've seen, but IK is pretty dodgy on what you really need.
Yeah the one and done nature of the nano cortex is huge
Transpose and pitch shifter effects are basically the same thing, should be in the same line imo, but anyway, the comparison you did is brilliant. I would add “screen availability” as a feature to compare, as many players already claimed that they need a screen to know what preset is on, which is available in tonex and kemper, but not in nanocortex.
Yeah true…. And being at home with a phone is cool but if you need to look at something quickly then whipping out the phone is an obstacle
Completely agree with your comments about the teaser non-teaser video. It wasn’t good on any level - as a non-promotional video it had no value and as a teaser video providing info about a product it was worthless. Btw I am not a neuraldsp hater as I have a QC x 3+years and most of their plugins. But just think they should respect their customer base more…..
I just saw KDH’s video on all this as well, great points. Yeah I own a bunch of their plugins and will probably end up with a qc. Skipping the nano cortex for now but no shade on it I can see it working for the right person. But yeah that marketing really didn’t help.
This isnt a showdown whatsoever. We can look up the specs ourselves thanks.
Thanks for the watch!
Then go and do it, and save yourself the comment, you stiff.
This isn’t a comment whatsoever. We can watch the video and judge for ourselves. Thanks
Cool comparison! I’m deciding between nano and kemper player. I know that you can’t stream music from your phone with Bluetooth on nanocortex but can you stream music via USB C from the phone?(not from the laptop)
Cheers
Nam have a slot to use a NAM Boost... with the new firmware! You can choose a NAM capture from a Boost pedal and use it....
Yeah it’s in the table of features 👌
kemper player has a transpose, but it's on the input block.
Ah cool, was hard to sift through all the stuff they had there. Even I was surprised by how many effects they crammed into the player.
Those vids were corny AF.
The only people I've seen defend it are die hard NDSP fans... I've spoken to like 20 non forum non guitar nerds, studio guys or old friends / bandmates and they were all like... wth was that....
Kemper got an incredible traspose, if you would like to update your chart
Can’t change it now but yeah someone else mentioned it. The big takeaway is that kemper smashes the competition in fx on these units
absolutely agree with you! from russia with love dude ❤❤❤
spasibo, legenda
Great video!
We’re are the tones
Just came out! More of a buying guide
nothing beats tonex one
I'm a big advocate for "if it works for you then awesome", but I always battle with the ToneX stuff.
@@ampspedalspickups I just capture the amp head through the torpedo capture line out. those captures come out the best, then I run it in the return of my 6505 for 6l6's or my DSL for EL34's
My biggest takeaway vs the HX or ToneX, or even Kemper is that the Nano sounds the best. Line6 no matter how you dress it up sounds cheap and thin
NDSP sounds great to my ears, not sure why so many have issues with it. HX takes work but can get there. Haven't tried Kemper too much and ToneX I struggle with the most.
ToneX takes less than 4 minutes to capture with a NVidia RTX GPU
I’ve got a 3090 and an advanced capture takes 25 minutes here. A lot of people are using Mac’s and it’s a lot worse for them.
@@ampspedalspickups If you're using Windows 11 try Disabling Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling. Change the default graphics settings and set this to off. This will speed the training up significantly. For me the times are Fast 50 seconds Default 2m 30s. Advanced 8m 50s on a RTX 4090. With Hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling on those times near double on my setup
Im still getting mixed/bad results with ToneX on high gain models. I'll try those windows settings cause if it massively speeds it up I might try it again. Waiting around for 30-40mins to find out a model is meh is such a ballbuster... if its only 15 minutes it speeds things up massively.