From my own experience; 1. You save on time. 2. The saving on cost is very little. 3. The H-beam columns are generally weak considering they use D8 bars 4. If a precast wall happens to fall down you incur a 98% loss compared to the ndarugo wall(you cannot salvage the pannels and they break easily, at least you can salvage the ndarugo stones) 5. With precast, you will 100% save on plastering. I feel since this is a new technology in kenya, the few companies available are somehow taking advantage and overpricing their products. But for other developed countries e.g China, precast is the best option.
Id still go for precast, the longer you have those contractors on site the more frustration you have. So what i like about those precast guys is that they do everything. Unlike with bricks where you must get your own builder who will frustrate your life. Then you must change him. Precast for me.
I am going to do precast construction, but I will do all the pre-casts myself; washed sand and gravel, quality cement, D8 for walls and tensile steel for floor slabs. We seriously require standard inspections in this country, too many quack journeymen for constructors! Skia huyu!
@miano Thanks for the video and the research that went into it. This is well thought through. And delivery was on point. Now lets go a step further for building a bungalow and a maisonette we demystify this once and forall
As an architect who has worked with both i can confirm the so called alternative building methods/technologies are not cheap and any savings you make are neglibel. The only upside is time.
I'm planning to do my project with interlocking LEGO bricks made of compacted soil with 10-12% cement. I'm in the process of importing the bricks making machine. What % of costs do you thing I'd save compared to ndarugo?
The local precast businesses are minting millions. My project a two story commercial building in 2019 had a BOQ of 12.5M using the normal materials. The cheapest precast supplier was quoting 16M. I did the actual mjengo using ndarugo and normal slabs. I spent 13.2M in thw whole project. Right now I have another project, I've decided to import my own machines to be doing the hollow blocks for the slabs. Local businesses are just taking advantage of raiya.
Like the case of solar panels bow allover way cheaper since many companies selling ,I wishbfor the precast, many peiple tot ake on this business and bring the price down and make it more available to people at an even cheaper rate.
@@allbyhisgrace8925 the precast battalion keeps saying "it saves time, anga... It's lighter than concrete" and many other funny things. For me, if the price ain't right, I don't want anything to do with it.
This is what I have been looking for, precast adverts are overrated. I have been having my doubts on the precast 25% cheaper notion going online. Thank you Miano.
I completely agree. Precast concrete is not as affordable as they say. I requested a quote for a section of wall, and the price they quoted me left my mouth open. Personally, I believe Ndarugo is less expensive than Precast.
Good job bro. But I must disagree with you. The slabs use less water, and they have a better finish. Additionally you also reduce the cure days.... In my opinion... The precast are better and sustainable compared to ndarugu
He did a fantastic job comparing upfront construction costs for SPECIFIC 100X100 wall.... and demystifying the big cost savings. Hiyo ingine ya aesthetic ni maono, time is also dependent on number of laborers
Thank you for bringing this topic, i have always said it that precast is expensive compared to normal stones. The only area they beat the normal stone cut machine is time line.
i am a civil engineer by profession.i did my own research on the same and what I have to say is,there is other aspects which we also look at in respect to which method of construction to apply such as serviceability.using precast makes the weight of a building lighter and so gives leeway in being conservative while design building elements.e.g. for lighter structure,shuttering ,the depth/size of the foundation,the type of foundation, the type of slab ,the diameter of reinforcements, size of beams and columns ,the increase in carpet areas and the ability to have larger spans without inside columns are all directly related to weight. with this in mind ,it might be cheaper using precast panels for storey buildings....plus it's a great conversation starter when you have friends around you want to inspire 😄
Good work Miano, a humble request if you could do types of roofing, especially tiles roofing (clay, concrete) which aren't talked about as much as the common ones.
Looking forward to this too. Roofing, Walling, Foundation, comparison costs for a chosen simple design as plain as a four walled gable house of 7m x 10m (classroom).
Great video. You should also do a comparison of the Beam to Beam flooring compared to the traditional reinforced slab, coz kuna very many opinions of late...watu wakisema inasave ati 20-30%
Good, well detailed comparison. The only discouraging part is that variance between quoted and actual costs. 10% is a very inaccurate percentage and could easily equal or surpass the precast price.
The fact that am not transporting sand ballast stones chumas.cement, kusumbuana na fundi, mara 21 days curing too much work precast all the way... Ile kugongwa watu ugongwa, kwa mjengo is draining
mud is cheaper than those other 2 materials. so its up to you what you are going to use. everything cost something. its what you are willing to pay and the look you want.
Thank you Miano for the comparisons. The better we know the better we are equipped to make good decisions. Can you please share more information about yourself. Are you an Architect, Engineer? How many homes have you constructed?
Hi, I do research on all the stuff I talk bout... Personally, I am a businessman and i started youtuber as a way to share my experiences in business... Construction, I do fencing works currently, with hopes to venture into buildings
Hi Miano. Your presentation is very interesting but it's confusing to those of us who don't speak Swahili. You could increase your viewership considerably if your target audience is worldwide and make your presentation in a universal language like English.
I have made extensive research on this issue of precast home panels, and I have made two observations, the overall coast of maintaining the house after construction will be significantly high, then if you have ready like 2 million get a good fundi na usikue mtu wa kutumana kwa site yako and you will have a ready house in less than 3 months, finally the structural integrity of that house I have more questions than answers ( hii precast ni gamble na nyumba sio kitu ya kugamble nayo especially the hidden roofing and such uweee
Kindly do the same comparison with interlocking blocks both for the house construction and the perimeter wall. I appreciate this kind of content. It helps one make the correct decision and shows us what we don't see at first.
Precast may not be as cheap but they are definitely cheaper, the quote is a little bit higher. The cost of building with both seems the same and precadt saves time.
Plastering coast is too much also ,thats number one best than old models , water, transportation, labour will be little compare to old model , building materials eg wheel barrows ,tress for ladders ,nails ooooooh
This came right on time..my mum is planning to build a home,so am the one deciding which road to take since i was tonned btwn darugo n precast.. I'll go with darugo..and have u as my contractor
Good insight Mr Miano, well I think for precast panels are only preferable for building with many storeys due to weight factor, but cost wise big naaah.
Good comparison but sasa my labour can be 50% more because sitakimb. izana na fundi, and wont go to kwale, and here fundis are 1500-1700. ... Still if I can I would go for precast
Good analysis but hapo kwa labour I differ with you,some foremen apart from hiring fundis demand Kes.2,500.So I think the darugo would incur more labour cost than you have highlighted.But am glad I came across you video.
Block and beam for slab is cheaper than the traditional way ya chuma but for the wall I support you miano ndarugo ni cheaper..na kwanza kama mimi from juja I will save more money on ndarugu cz nitanunua mawe inaitwa reject which is cheaper na bado ni mawe poa
Those guys did a perimeter wall (50 x 100) at 750k without a gate and transportation cost. Total coming to at least 950k. I found that ridiculous!!! No way it would have cost that much had they used Ndarugu. It is simply insane!
i donot know what to say but for me i think if you do all things by your self , precast can be cheaper, that is if your not buying the panels but making them by yourself,on the other hand since ndarugu is an old tested technology its better to do ndatugu coz new technologies donot provide big margins for error
Show the numbers on a house cost, this is on a fence which has different dynamics. I would love to see your quote on a three bed 110sqm bungalow, for that is what most developers are pushing right now. do not disagree with your premise here, though.
We learn from you every day, you are very practical. I am currently doing a 50x 200 perimeter wall m, 3 courses on foundation and 4 courses, then a grill of 1.5M high and 2 gates. The quotation is 1.2 M. Is Miano a contractor or foreman? What's the name of ur company.
Precast is cheaper guys...just check the amount of people needed to put up Ndarugo wall..11 guys he says..precast it's enough with 4 guys . In Europe we do with 3-4 guys and very fast. You save money
Yes in Europe,, but currently we have enough raw materials to build with Stone and it's cheaper... I ain't arguing on the fact of strength or structure of precast iam arguing on the fact they advertise it as though it's very cheap and at the moment it's a very expensive way in Kenya... Perhaps itakuwa cheaper one day but not today...
Good analysis. How about comparison of beam to beam floor especially on 1st floor slab for a house compared to the traditional laying of 1st floor slab. Which is cheaper and still safe
personally I disagree with you .building with precast compared to ndarugo stones its way too cheap remember this wall is almost pre plastered ,you save on labor and plastering cement .still you have flexibility on buying and hold them till you are ready to build. im planning to do a mansionett 240 sq meter and there is a great difference compared to ndarugo.
Very nice video. Kitambo pia nilikuwa nasema nikijenga nitatumia precast but after deep research na kuuliza quantity surveyor maswali mob nimeona nitatumia tu ndarugo. For example, precast selling point yao ni ati oh hautafanya plaster. Ukichukua wall ya 10 ft by 10 ft, utatumia panels 5 za (2.7m high) at 2300kes. Roughly hio ni 12k total. Ukichukua ndarugo for the same wall utatumia mawe 60 zenye zitakam around 2k, alafu plaster utatumia cement bag moja na wheelbarrow mbili za mchanga ikuje 1200 plus other costs like 3k total inakuja 6200kes. Half the cost of the panels
That's what I thought too, that precast was cheaper. Went for quotation and the cost was shocking. Let's just say am now enjoying my humble ndarugo house
I'm sure if you go ndarugo. It be more expensive than precast. It will surpass that quote. The truth is it will be more profitable for you in ndarugo than precast
Good comparison but it's not apples to apples. A more objective comparison would have been split into foundation and walling like on the precast quote. It's hard for example to know what amount of cement, sand, steel goes where.
Nilifanyiwa quote ya foundation ya precast using zile beams ya area around 460sqft ikakam over 130k bila ata kumwaga concrete na labour. Ukienda na the normal concrete slab foundation kama ya Miano for the same area ili cost around 123k plus labour
I have been following pre-cast construction for more than 5 years now. Please share evidence of a home made with pre-cast that has collapsed. I see homes collapsing left right and center all the time made with stone
Precast building hardly collapse because of deadweight reduction..most materials are hollow.. Collapsible building are those that mostly use ndurugo stones..Too much dead weight with poor reinforced concrete structure...
This is a guy protecting his business because the future is the Precast. Precast will always be cheaper especially if doing a house. Time is money and you'll save money by saving time. No doubt about that. Also the quality of precast and Darugu are the same.
I hear you. But You did not mention your own labor cost. You only gave for the Laborers na mafundi. If you can gave yours, then I can understand. For now, I can only imagine that your total cast can go to a million as well. So please that please so we are not to have any other hidden cost when we come to you Please.
There is always so much untold with the conventional method, I wish your costs would per square meter because you can also be biased to bring your point.cost Per square meter or linear meter that would atleast a good standard to leverage otherwise its to believe your findings.
Mr. Miano, what about durability. Which one has long life, am talking of cracks, Precast or the other one? I need to know before I take a step forward and by the way I appreciate your information, good job and keep rolling!
Both if done well will last a lifetime... Stones you just need to avoid shortcuts... N precast concrete properly cured and well reinforced iko sawa kabisaa
what about uki build na Ndarugo from outside walling and inside you partition with precast concrete panels, is it economical and is it a good idea, what do you think about that?
From my own experience;
1. You save on time.
2. The saving on cost is very little.
3. The H-beam columns are generally weak considering they use D8 bars
4. If a precast wall happens to fall down you incur a 98% loss compared to the ndarugo wall(you cannot salvage the pannels and they break easily, at least you can salvage the ndarugo stones)
5. With precast, you will 100% save on plastering.
I feel since this is a new technology in kenya, the few companies available are somehow taking advantage and overpricing their products.
But for other developed countries e.g China, precast is the best option.
Great analysis 👍 thanks 🙏
Id still go for precast, the longer you have those contractors on site the more frustration you have. So what i like about those precast guys is that they do everything. Unlike with bricks where you must get your own builder who will frustrate your life. Then you must change him. Precast for me.
I am going to do precast construction, but I will do all the pre-casts myself; washed sand and gravel, quality cement, D8 for walls and tensile steel for floor slabs. We seriously require standard inspections in this country, too many quack journeymen for constructors! Skia huyu!
@miano Thanks for the video and the research that went into it. This is well thought through. And delivery was on point. Now lets go a step further for building a bungalow and a maisonette we demystify this once and forall
As an architect who has worked with both i can confirm the so called alternative building methods/technologies are not cheap and any savings you make are neglibel. The only upside is time.
Negligible is the word architect
Bwana architect. In construction time is Money.
I'm planning to do my project with interlocking LEGO bricks made of compacted soil with 10-12% cement.
I'm in the process of importing the bricks making machine.
What % of costs do you thing I'd save compared to ndarugo?
The local precast businesses are minting millions.
My project a two story commercial building in 2019 had a BOQ of 12.5M using the normal materials.
The cheapest precast supplier was quoting 16M.
I did the actual mjengo using ndarugo and normal slabs. I spent 13.2M in thw whole project.
Right now I have another project, I've decided to import my own machines to be doing the hollow blocks for the slabs.
Local businesses are just taking advantage of raiya.
Very true
Can make the slab for someone please since you imported yours
@@sonyasupplies sure.
I'll do that.
I want to have enough experience and the right manpower then I can start doing it affordably for other people
Like the case of solar panels bow allover way cheaper since many companies selling ,I wishbfor the precast, many peiple tot ake on this business and bring the price down and make it more available to people at an even cheaper rate.
@@allbyhisgrace8925 the precast battalion keeps saying "it saves time, anga... It's lighter than concrete" and many other funny things.
For me, if the price ain't right, I don't want anything to do with it.
This is what I have been looking for, precast adverts are overrated. I have been having my doubts on the precast 25% cheaper notion going online. Thank you Miano.
I completely agree. Precast concrete is not as affordable as they say. I requested a quote for a section of wall, and the price they quoted me left my mouth open. Personally, I believe Ndarugo is less expensive than Precast.
Me too
Good job bro. But I must disagree with you. The slabs use less water, and they have a better finish. Additionally you also reduce the cure days.... In my opinion... The precast are better and sustainable compared to ndarugu
He did a fantastic job comparing upfront construction costs for SPECIFIC 100X100 wall.... and demystifying the big cost savings. Hiyo ingine ya aesthetic ni maono, time is also dependent on number of laborers
Nisawa but Shida ni siezi kimbizana na fundi mimi
Same time is money iyo masaa tunatengeza pesa
I have seen some videos on TH-cam of people in India making their own precast panels. Soon it will be cheaper when competition increases.
I agree, it's just a matter of time
Thank you for bringing this topic, i have always said it that precast is expensive compared to normal stones. The only area they beat the normal stone cut machine is time line.
i am a civil engineer by profession.i did my own research on the same and what I have to say is,there is other aspects which we also look at in respect to which method of construction to apply such as serviceability.using precast makes the weight of a building lighter and so gives leeway in being conservative while design building elements.e.g. for lighter structure,shuttering ,the depth/size of the foundation,the type of foundation, the type of slab ,the diameter of reinforcements, size of beams and columns ,the increase in carpet areas and the ability to have larger spans without inside columns are all directly related to weight. with this in mind ,it might be cheaper using precast panels for storey buildings....plus it's a great conversation starter when you have friends around you want to inspire 😄
@@stephennjenga941 this is awesome... Just a question why are Chinese developers not adopting it in storey buildings in Kenya...
Thank you for this breakdown it's very insightful and with the current economy we need to save on cost as much as possible 🙏🏾
Precast is far better in form of quality and far cheaper than those old technology of those Ndarugo stones
You have no idea 😔
Good work Miano, a humble request if you could do types of roofing, especially tiles roofing (clay, concrete) which aren't talked about as much as the common ones.
Okay 👍
Looking forward to this too. Roofing, Walling, Foundation, comparison costs for a chosen simple design as plain as a four walled gable house of 7m x 10m (classroom).
This is very informative the reason precast my seem expensive because it is saving the one thing you cannot buy time.
I just proved it takes the same time to construct as long as you have money... Especially in normal houses and walls.....
But you have to place an order one month before so that they can prepare
Very interesting. Asante.
Great video. You should also do a comparison of the Beam to Beam flooring compared to the traditional reinforced slab, coz kuna very many opinions of late...watu wakisema inasave ati 20-30%
Doing research on it currently... Intake time
@@mianomuthiihata mi nataka kujua
Good, well detailed comparison. The only discouraging part is that variance between quoted and actual costs. 10% is a very inaccurate percentage and could easily equal or surpass the precast price.
Exactly,and the stress and headache and the stealing of materials ....
The fact that am not transporting sand ballast stones chumas.cement, kusumbuana na fundi, mara 21 days curing too much work precast all the way... Ile kugongwa watu ugongwa, kwa mjengo is draining
mud is cheaper than those other 2 materials. so its up to you what you are going to use. everything cost something. its what you are willing to pay and the look you want.
This is wonderful information! Thank you for the detailed analysis.
the precast advantage is the fact that time taken to complete the project is quicker
There is no time advantage
Nice explanation kudos👍👍
I love your work Miano, keep it up!
Thank you Miano for the comparisons. The better we know the better we are equipped to make good decisions. Can you please share more information about yourself. Are you an Architect, Engineer? How many homes have you constructed?
Hi, I do research on all the stuff I talk bout... Personally, I am a businessman and i started youtuber as a way to share my experiences in business... Construction, I do fencing works currently, with hopes to venture into buildings
Hi Miano.
Your presentation is very interesting but it's confusing to those of us who don't speak Swahili. You could increase your viewership considerably if your target audience is worldwide and make your presentation in a universal language like English.
I have made extensive research on this issue of precast home panels, and I have made two observations, the overall coast of maintaining the house after construction will be significantly high, then if you have ready like 2 million get a good fundi na usikue mtu wa kutumana kwa site yako and you will have a ready house in less than 3 months, finally the structural integrity of that house I have more questions than answers ( hii precast ni gamble na nyumba sio kitu ya kugamble nayo especially the hidden roofing and such uweee
Wow.. better insights than mine thanks for sharing
Kindly do the same comparison with interlocking blocks both for the house construction and the perimeter wall. I appreciate this kind of content. It helps one make the correct decision and shows us what we don't see at first.
Precast may not be as cheap but they are definitely cheaper, the quote is a little bit higher. The cost of building with both seems the same and precadt saves time.
Food for thought
Clearly explained....50x100 ndio am waiting to know the budget 😊
Miano yr price is great...yr information is very realistic
Plastering coast is too much also ,thats number one best than old models , water, transportation, labour will be little compare to old model , building materials eg wheel barrows ,tress for ladders ,nails ooooooh
You still need them with this
This came right on time..my mum is planning to build a home,so am the one deciding which road to take since i was tonned btwn darugo n precast.. I'll go with darugo..and have u as my contractor
This comparison was for a fence wall not a house. Hope you considered this.darugo house needs plastering
This comparison was for a fence wall not a house. Hope you considered this.darugo house needs plastering
Good analysis, would also kindly do cost analysis for using conventional slab and slab pre-cast panels.
Okay
The precast floor slabs wins this one. The amount of reinforcement and time needed for insitu floor slab is a lot lot more.
Good insight Mr Miano, well I think for precast panels are only preferable for building with many storeys due to weight factor, but cost wise big naaah.
Good Job. Please consider using English only all through for your international viewers. Thanks
Are you international? Hii ni ya wa kenya. By the way wewe si umetoka hapa muithoko
😂😂😂@@papalegitz2553
😂😂😂😂😂
1m for Ndarugo v 1.15m for precast --mmh I'd go for pre-cast. There are many hidden cost in ndaraguo that will exceed that -and it will take you time.
Hapo kwa time ni story tu
So hiyo wall ya ndarugo inacure in how many days?
@@HLMM_KE plaster takes 30 days to cure
Miano in the pricing ya precast they have included a profit margin of more than 20 percent. Unlike you. It's cheaper but they eat too much
I like ur argument 😂😂😂😂
just wondering about structural integrity between the two.
Good comparison but sasa my labour can be 50% more because sitakimb. izana na fundi, and wont go to kwale, and here fundis are 1500-1700. ... Still if I can I would go for precast
Look for reputable contractors and fundis... Dig a bit on their history
@@mianomuthiido you have any reputable people in mind?
@@jonathanmunyoki5161 nope
Good analysis but hapo kwa labour I differ with you,some foremen apart from hiring fundis demand Kes.2,500.So I think the darugo would incur more labour cost than you have highlighted.But am glad I came across you video.
Okay 👍
Block and beam for slab is cheaper than the traditional way ya chuma but for the wall I support you miano ndarugo ni cheaper..na kwanza kama mimi from juja I will save more money on ndarugu cz nitanunua mawe inaitwa reject which is cheaper na bado ni mawe poa
How much huko
good analysis ....next time itemize on the stages in construction, to give it more clarity....especially for the house.....good job....
Glad i came along your channel..
Those guys did a perimeter wall (50 x 100) at 750k without a gate and transportation cost. Total coming to at least 950k. I found that ridiculous!!! No way it would have cost that much had they used Ndarugu. It is simply insane!
Yes... That would be about 700k yan50*100
With a gate and using nine inch stone
comparing ndarugo vs. precast is like comparing sugar and salt. They are both good and disadvantageous in equal measure
Kazi safi bro! Keep rolling 💪
Precast is expensive. The only advantage is the speed of building.
Not really.. not If you can make your own panels.
@truaentnation2528 the youth to embark on this and creat jobs making panels and giving these expensive companies competition and bring the price down
Great powerful work
i donot know what to say but for me i think if you do all things by your self , precast can be cheaper, that is if your not buying the panels but making them by yourself,on the other hand since ndarugu is an old tested technology its better to do ndatugu coz new technologies donot provide big margins for error
What about quality wise with with this particular precast..not all this particular one
Asante sana Miano. Western ni mbali sana transport bana. Waa..
Show the numbers on a house cost, this is on a fence which has different dynamics. I would love to see your quote on a three bed 110sqm bungalow, for that is what most developers are pushing right now.
do not disagree with your premise here, though.
Okay.. I will do a side by side comparison
Also kuna hii nyumba floor decor (Amos Kibaru) anajenga ya less than 2 million using the alternative building technologies,umeiona?
@@_born84 yes.. on twitter
@@mianomuthii he posted it on YT also
@@_born84 just watching it now
Miano Asante sana .. this is invaluable information....
We learn from you every day, you are very practical. I am currently doing a 50x 200 perimeter wall m, 3 courses on foundation and 4 courses, then a grill of 1.5M high and 2 gates. The quotation is 1.2 M. Is Miano a contractor or foreman? What's the name of ur company.
Just on my beginning stages..no company yet... But iam working on that... I work on personal contract basis...
i hope you are the one buying material.they charge labour.right?
What's about building slab using precast,for two bedrooms compared with normal building.
That's viable
Precast is cheaper guys...just check the amount of people needed to put up Ndarugo wall..11 guys he says..precast it's enough with 4 guys . In Europe we do with 3-4 guys and very fast. You save money
Yes in Europe,, but currently we have enough raw materials to build with Stone and it's cheaper... I ain't arguing on the fact of strength or structure of precast iam arguing on the fact they advertise it as though it's very cheap and at the moment it's a very expensive way in Kenya... Perhaps itakuwa cheaper one day but not today...
Very well...
Good analysis. How about comparison of beam to beam floor especially on 1st floor slab for a house compared to the traditional laying of 1st floor slab. Which is cheaper and still safe
personally I disagree with you .building with precast compared to ndarugo stones its way too cheap remember this wall is almost pre plastered ,you save on labor and plastering cement .still you have flexibility on buying and hold them till you are ready to build. im planning to do a mansionett 240 sq meter and there is a great difference compared to ndarugo.
@@Mg-wd6idbut you can only dispute with calculations...
@@Mg-wd6idwhich company has offered you a competitive quote and how much? Does it include servant quarter and perimeter wall, gate, and cabro?
Informative comparison.
The cost of precast only saves on slab works. Otherwise its cheaper to do walls using Ndarugo.
Very true..kwa slab it saves by 50 to 60%
Very nice video. Kitambo pia nilikuwa nasema nikijenga nitatumia precast but after deep research na kuuliza quantity surveyor maswali mob nimeona nitatumia tu ndarugo. For example, precast selling point yao ni ati oh hautafanya plaster. Ukichukua wall ya 10 ft by 10 ft, utatumia panels 5 za (2.7m high) at 2300kes. Roughly hio ni 12k total.
Ukichukua ndarugo for the same wall utatumia mawe 60 zenye zitakam around 2k, alafu plaster utatumia cement bag moja na wheelbarrow mbili za mchanga ikuje 1200 plus other costs like 3k total inakuja 6200kes.
Half the cost of the panels
😂😂
That's what I thought too, that precast was cheaper. Went for quotation and the cost was shocking. Let's just say am now enjoying my humble ndarugo house
I agree with this from experience
Do you mind sharing
Exactly n i agree with u fully
I'm sure if you go ndarugo. It be more expensive than precast. It will surpass that quote. The truth is it will be more profitable for you in ndarugo than precast
Wueh sawa tu
KIndly yes help and meet up with Nick see if a house that is made of both modes works on a standard 3 bedroom bungalow and massionette
Will definately do that
Good comparison but it's not apples to apples. A more objective comparison would have been split into foundation and walling like on the precast quote. It's hard for example to know what amount of cement, sand, steel goes where.
That would be very detailed and the foundation is almost similar...
Nilifanyiwa quote ya foundation ya precast using zile beams ya area around 460sqft ikakam over 130k bila ata kumwaga concrete na labour. Ukienda na the normal concrete slab foundation kama ya Miano for the same area ili cost around 123k plus labour
@@oliverk1431 for now it's very expensive
Kumbe precast is not as cheap as I thought? Thanks for enlightening us. Cement is now costing sh 730 a bag? Wow.
Yes...n some places @ 750
i realized that when using interlocking blocks what they do most is save on time
Thank you for that.
What is your opinion on interlocking blocks or bricks?
??
There's no problem if it's more expensive, because it's way too better, ndarugo imepitwa na wakati
Better not what is in the market at this time
Great info and insightful! I will def hit you up next time I'm in 254 Mr Muthii 🙂
Thanks 👍 I will appreciate it much
@mianomuthii You're welcome, Sir. You just gotten yourself a new friend. By the way, Happy New 2024
@@moyente happy new year too
@@moyente happy new year too
Okay most of your comparison is within Nairobi and its environs, do you have a comparison for North Rift?
Miano wewe #1!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏
...agreed totally with title even before listening. Also, i dont trust our workmanship is quite there...wait until they start collapsing 😂😂
I have been following pre-cast construction for more than 5 years now. Please share evidence of a home made with pre-cast that has collapsed. I see homes collapsing left right and center all the time made with stone
You so naive
@@charitykyalo4823 Still waiting for you to share evidence of a home built with pre-cast that has collapsed
Buildings collapse only because of poor workmanship!
Precast building hardly collapse because of deadweight reduction..most materials are hollow.. Collapsible building are those that mostly use ndurugo stones..Too much dead weight with poor reinforced concrete structure...
where is transport cost in yours?..and then time factor how long will it take for the normal wall to be ready....(keep in mind time is money)
Already iko accounted for
Trust me less time
I agree with you
Do something on interlocking brings
When you start plastering ndarugu is when you will know the difference. Materials and labour is almost like doing another wall.
N when you start having repairs done on the precast you won't know what bate you
The big question is can you build a 3 bedroom bungalow using Ndarugo with 1.3m
Yeah
This is a guy protecting his business because the future is the Precast. Precast will always be cheaper especially if doing a house. Time is money and you'll save money by saving time. No doubt about that. Also the quality of precast and Darugu are the same.
@@angelamaiyo2524 zero comment
True, very expensive
Thanks bro
When doing your comparison have a base reference to the standard building practices.
What did I say wrong
@@mianomuthii that was just an input Sir, I didn't say you said something Wrong.
@@timothyadem8354 okay got you bro... I definitely have to improve on that then...
I always say it is not cheap. It only saves on time
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Good analysis, kindly do for me a quotation of a storey bedsitter,
i am in the same state.i am looking to do a storey bedsitters but i am stuck. do you have drawings?
if we can combined effort .we can share drawing and structural drawing costs.
Mimi nitataka kujenga 5 bedroom, 3 level, flat roof in a few years with precast. Can they withstand the weight?
Yeah with proper beams and pillars
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Naitwa mutinda terrazzo flooring installation naomba unipee kazi
Do you add a drip groove on that cast-in-place coping? Ama ni ile ufundi ya kijijini?
Didn't get you
Good content
Precast is time saving. People don't cost time
@@jmkabera wueh 🤔
I think ndarungo is good then precast panels they have very thin walls .i saw it in kwangu kwako homes they cant hold heavy windows or doors
Wow food for thought 🤔
Exactly. Walls za ndarugo ni 200mm thick na za panels ni 90mm thick
@@oliverk1431 yea
I hear you. But You did not mention your own labor cost. You only gave for the Laborers na mafundi. If you can gave yours, then I can understand. For now, I can only imagine that your total cast can go to a million as well. So please that please so we are not to have any other hidden cost when we come to you Please.
I did mention it in the end...
Also if you listened carefully I did two costs, one for 6inch n 9inch... For my charges it will be about 50k...
Ok lets do this.....room ya 10x10 itacost how much including labour vs precast
Will work it out
In precast ,you will savw alot in terms of labour
Not really.. trust me on that...
How much per ndarugo 6inch ? Secondly how many pieces of ndarugo can I use to build a 4 bedrooms house kitchen included.
Good work Miano. Your the best in these estimates. Please drop your contacts.
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There is always so much untold with the conventional method, I wish your costs would per square meter because you can also be biased to bring your point.cost Per square meter or linear meter that would atleast a good standard to leverage otherwise its to believe your findings.
True
Precast concrete wall is saving time only but if you want cheaper you compromise quality
It doesn't save time and I have explained that.. it's equal as long money and resources are available
@@mianomuthii I have seen mega project where they bring precast concrete floors and pillars where by if it was to do normal korogea will take century
@@salimmachila5736 nope trust me on that... I am working on a video of a house I built last year to prove ymthat wrong
How much is the labour cost for a fundi and that of mtu wa mkono on a day-to-day basis
I pay 1200+700
Thanks for the info
Mr. Miano, what about durability. Which one has long life, am talking of cracks, Precast or the other one? I need to know before I take a step forward and by the way I appreciate your information, good job and keep rolling!
Both if done well will last a lifetime...
Stones you just need to avoid shortcuts...
N precast concrete properly cured and well reinforced iko sawa kabisaa
Now hapo Kwa curing Sasa you may not know but from reputable companies it's okay
what about uki build na Ndarugo from outside walling and inside you partition with precast concrete panels, is it economical and is it a good idea, what do you think about that?
@@petergichanga3380 why you want them, you plaster ndarugo wall
am also worried should a crack occur...that house becomes obsolete.....