Where did People of India and Other Parts of South, Central Asia Come From?
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- Prabir Purkayastha discusses the findings of a recent study which traces the ancestry of the people of India and other parts of South and Central Asia. The study answers where we got our languages from, how we may have learnt farming practices, and what characteristics can be seen in the population of South and North Indians.
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Why so much hatred in the comment section? We are all pure indians. No matter how we look. Migration happened in every country so in India and other South Asian countries. In the video they are just talk how migration happened and from which parts of the world. They are not trying to divide us.
I have not even seen any single right winger sanghi giving a good logical counter response to this video. Most of them are just spitting venom and trolling. That's what they're good at
Migration happened does not mean it wipes of natives does not mean they found our Indus civilization!
@@bhishmainfinity9202 i am a sanghi and i have a logical counter to all your questions. I am ready for a friendly debate. Ask anything you want i will response
@@user-ez4cp2vh5s Why do you want to impose your religion on others like eating beef
Bhishma Infinity aree bheji ap yha bi😀
so in a nutshell... Indians are a mix of black ppl from Africa and white ppl from iran and Europe... North Indians have more white dna and south Indians have more black dna.
You miss the other components specially East Asians.
@@susantadeb7666 yup the mongoloid genes in bengal and NE
Iranians are not white uncle😂😂😂😂, they are fair little fairer than north indians,
Isn't it ironic that people accept the fact that Alexander came to India from Europe but same people refuse to accept people from Eurasia migrated to India earlier.
Right 😂
Bro first of all there are no archaeological evidence that alexander even lived even whoever wrote about alexander were born after death of Alexander. And second if he was real he never came to india he try but failed to cross border of modern day india. Some says he loos say says he won but after that fight he go back to his country and died their 2 years later
@@descendedofrigvedicclans2216 do you have eny evidence that alexander ever born ? Any archaeological evidence ? Any proof ? The one who wrote about alexander were born 200 years after his death lol. You guys are brainwashed.
Chutiya 😂
Ved padh le gaadu
Srbinda logo ka mentioned hai usme gaad pe laat marke bhagaya tha unhe ( srbinda= srbenda/ ancient name of Serbs)
Dyaus pitra ke worshipper ka bhi mention hai ( zues worshipper ) unhe bhi same outcast kar diya tha
Parsu kshatriya ( persian warrior)
Danava mythology , danav were deafeated and outcasted ( ancient Celts described themselves related to danav even mentioned outcasted from their dannan)
@ARYAN MIZDHA who tf you where u from??
Everyone is a migrant from somewhere
No one is a local from the beginning
Drawadians are original people of subcontinant crushed by arians.
@@mtasarraf7551 mis conception 😅🍊
@@mtasarraf7551 Dravidians themselves are a mix of Iranian Neolithic farmers and Ancient Indian indigenous hunter gatherers( like Andamanese).
Even the ancient hunter-gatherers that predate the Dravidians settled into India from Africa. Humanity slowly ventured out of Africa in waves starting around 60,000 years ago.
@Aesthetic Aura yep, I was just pointing that out because some people have this idea that the early “natives” of India (ancient hunter-gatherers) originated from the subcontinent when this is not true. Nobody is a native from anywhere unless they live in Central Africa or something where it’s believed the first modern homo sapiens started appearing.
For those who couldn't capture everything, don't worry! The most important thing to remember is that you all came out of Africa!
Shout out to all African brothers!
That's only a theory, never proven.
@@TMB-cv2bg better believe in that, than to believe in the so called first humans; adam and eve.
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Of course, believe something that can't be proven and makes no intelligent sense.
Another idiot grovelling to Africans, Race is not a social construct and 'we' didnt come from Africa.
@@TMB-cv2bg EXPLAIN?
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Usa is the most hybrid country, no one knows their ancestors especially women hacpve some time with other races.
The IE migration map shown, starting at 2:00, is outrageously simplified.
1) Sintashta Culture (South Oural), that gave the Andronovo Culture (Central Asia) didn't descend directly from Yamnaya Culture (the initial one, in Southern Russia) but from a 75% Yamnaya people : Balto-Slavic Europeans belonging (like many other Europeans at that time) to the Corded Ware Culture, that they exported till Central Asia.
2) Some Yamnaya people had, far before that European movement to the East, had gone extremely far to the East, reaching Altaï Mountains where they created the Afanassievo Culture... NOT to confuse with Andronovo Culture from where stemmed the Indo-Aryans after their brutal, necessary brutal and murderous (no politically correct BS was present at that time) collision with the Oxus Civilization.
Dr. Prabir Purkayastha, there IS DNA evidence from the Indus Valley Civilization. The Indus Valley Civilization shows the absence of R1a1 type of Y-Haplogroup. Whole genome data from Indus Valley is pending publication. The whole genome sequence is expected to show no Steppe ancestry in the Indus Valley Civilization.
Yup Raghuraj, we are truly symbolized by the "three headed lion"! Cheers!!
So you are iranian and west asian.
@@anandmishra2925 Dravidians are a whole bunch of other peoples. South asians as a whole are indo ayran, dravidian, andamanese, east asian and other veddoid types. They're even linked with the aboriginals of Australia.
Yes, the IVC predated the Dravidians and Aryans.
No iVC is Dravidian Tamil
Indians and Africans are the descendants of Cush. Cushites settled in Africa, Middle East & Asia. Most Indians are through the linage of Seba one of the sons and Cush. In the ancient times India used to be called eastern Ethiopia and Indian Ocean used to be called Ethiopian ocean, there is a reason to that. Most light skinned Indians are a result of intermarriage with Europeans and some Persians/Arabs. Indians and Africans are one people, I am surprised that nobody is talking about it. It’s mind blowing that everyone want to be associated with Europe why?
Indian have vastly caucasian facial features while African resembles negroid race their is a difference of day and night what are you taking bro we are related to central Asia and Europe
Awesome. Can u share this from where you got this Biblical information. Thanks
Our roots r from Africa. Sorry 2 say racists pple n sorry racists pple Egypt is in Africa. So accept black pple. I m Indian
I don't see why people are getting annoyed for no reason. Isn't it exciting to know that people from North Africa, Europe, Middle East, Central Asia and Indian Subcontinent are connected by a common ancestry.
I think we should be glad of the fact that we're related, connected, and that we share common origins. There is no shame in accepting the truth, when in fact the truth is so interesting. (I say truth because although this a theory, it is backed by strong DNA trails, archaeological findings and linguistic reconstructions)
Still we argue each other for no good reason whatsoever. It's high time people realise that we should end the needless clamour and embrace the different cultures we have, as we're basically the same people who got separated on our journeys. The Sanskrit saying, "Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam" (The world is my family) summarises this scientific theory and also my point.
Ancient north Africa is Black African
@@marcossealey8612 Modern North africans don't identify as black. Modern North african coast people are both genetically and culturally similar to southern europe and mediterranean spheres of influence than to congo, kenya, cameroon style black areas. Why? Because north africa recieved huge migrations from middle east after the invention of farming. These neolithic migrations gradually whitened north africans. But of course tbey aren't completely white or middle eastern. North africans are mixture of midde eastern farmers, roman/greek (white) colonists and original dark skinned north africans.
@@freandwhickquest DUHH..I was EXPLAINING before the MIGRATION ALL(AFRICA)WAS BLACK..JUST BLACK!!!
@@marcossealey8612 ok i was explaining for the potential readers.
@@marcossealey8612 north Africa never been black , it is land of native berber people which they caucasian by race
All historians, scientists and Archeologists who rely on scientific evidences to understand history are pointing towards one side and the Sanghaparivar historians are pointing in the other direction. What an irony.
But truth will prevail.
Thirty years ago i remember one man who found the relationship between sumerian elamites and dravidian language! Now he is correct.
Tell me what is that
@@lakshmivaidyanathan2254 The recent studies(2018,2019) show modern Dravidians are mostly descended from Elamite Neolithic West Asian Iranian farmers and indigenous hunter gatherers, and also have a few genes from Indo-Aryans.
The West Asian Neolithic farmers mixed with native Indians to form the Indus Valley civilisation and also brought Dravidian languages into India from West Asia. That's the first migration before the Steppe Indo-Aryans migration happened.
Also most of modern north Indians are basically mix of Dravidians and Steppe.
While east Indians(bengal,odisha) are mix of Indo-aryans, Austroasiatic and Dravidians. While many people in Assam,Nepal and north-east have ancestry from Sino-TIbetan
Is there also a relatioship between dravidian language and bask? and Etrusk?
Not conclusive yet!!
@EXTREME food and lifestyle too
Very informative video and so much of information is covered. Every time I listen to it I understand something more which I missed the previous time.
And for the people fighting in the comment section about Aryan/Dravidian, North vs South controversies, the genetic difference between all of us Indians and even south Asians as a whole doesn't have any clean divide of 2 groups. All of us are admixture of Ancestral North Indian and Ancestral South Indian population groups. Of course there is a gradient of high to low proportion of ANI when you go further south into India from the North.
Not even everyone speaking the same language and identifying as same cast today is going to have similar admixture of ANI and ASI. To put it in simple terms if you test the DNA of everyone in a caste group within a single state in India you will find a varying admixture of ANI and ASI.
So moral of the story: All of these studies and findings should excite us Indians that we are all a mixed group and very closely related to each other genetically no matter what language we speak and where we live in India now.
Please don't fall into the trap of DMK nationalism now!
Please don't fall into the trap of DMK nationalism now!
@@cvry2813 Please read a comment fully before typing a random reply. If you have a specific disagreement with anything said in my comment let me know. I'm welcome to discuss.Whatever I've put in my comment is exactly to counter what some supporters of DMK are trying to do. The fact that you are asking me to not fall into DMK trap shows you like typing random stuff on people's comments without even reading or understanding what the comment says.
@@cvry2813 Please read a comment fully before typing a random reply. If you have a specific disagreement with anything said in my comment let me know. I'm welcome to discuss.Whatever I've put in my comment is exactly to counter what some supporters of DMK are trying to do. The fact that you are asking me to not fall into DMK trap shows you like typing random stuff on people's comments without even reading or understanding what the comment says.
A great attempt to explain how civilisations developed in Eurasia based on a very work. This is may be the very first of it's kind in Indian web channels. As a viewer want more of such programs. Like to suggest that whole program perhaps much easier to understand if divided into 4/5 parts, using along side the time bar, topography, land elevation and
flow of various ethnic gruops and their provable mixing. Plus separate episode for major language gruops and ethnic groups. Thank you newsclick.
Hey, Idiotssss, do you have any Prove nooo, I Show you, that Whole Indian have same DNA, there is no Arian invation.
1)
m.th-cam.com/video/_BCXAUEBgO4/w-d-xo.html
2)we don't need to Prove that we are because, we show the world enough, that we are Interligent than North Indian.
1)99% of CEOs in Famous Companies in the World from South India (Google CEO, Microsoft CEO, PepsiCo CEO, Adobe CEO etc..)
2)ISRO is controlled and oparated by South in Indian
3)Indian 85% Economy Runned by South states ( Maharashtra, Tamil Naadu, Thelungana, kerala, etc..)
3)human development index in South states higher than North States...
[We r proud to say, that we r from south..]
Sory, I don't want to Insult, North poeple. But If the North guys do like that, then we have to show them, what's the Reality is bro.
@@vikashkumar-ey4ks Maharashtra is a South Indian state? Wow I'm so impressed with your facts.
@@vikashkumar-ey4ks north indians arent discriminating towards south indians because you are some different race and we are different i am a maharashtrian but live in south india and show no racism towards anyone whatsoever dont dare to tell anything about north india or else it wont take time to insult you and your people
@@IamShrikantTyagi Ezhava , Thiyya Are Eurasian
ezhava has a patternal lineage with Turk ,German
(60% european-40% east asian)
Thiyya came from kyrgyztan
It's strange that they always show migration paths on a modern day world map.
When people left Africa the world map didn't look like it do today.
And some would argue that it's not a big difference but it really are.
I'm seeing a great deal of irrational reaction to the very nuanced argument being made here. This is a discussion about a recent Scientific paper , if you aren't an expert in the space then it will be very difficult for you to gain a correct understanding of the concepts being relayed.
To come to this first humble of your limitations in this discussion being a non expert is the FIRST step of a rational human being.
Second, it is important ...knowing ones limitations to constantly check ones expectations for language used in this discussion against the usage of those words in a Scientific context ...for example, as Scientists "theory" is a much more refined and rigorous descriptor than the laymen assumption that it means "a guess". This is wrong...if you are prone to making this mistake when you hear in this video "migration" , "admixture" , "mixing" , "gradient" then you are simply not prepared to engage in any aspect of this discussion. You should step back...educate yourself...formalize your thinking to be Scientifically rigorous then come back.
As a Scientist and Engineer ...having this discipline is the principle tool to allowing absorption of complex new ideas in the ongoing research in the areas we seek expertise or even just basic understanding...laymen wishing to participate in Scientific conversations MUST respect this fact.
Finally, for those who have rejected the idea of migrations into the sub continent to form its modern form (a contention which is completely uncontroversial to any linguist, archeologist or geneticists as of 2018...in fact it is as certain a fact as the reality of a hot sun in the sky) I pose you a question.
Do you accept that modern homo sapiens sapiens emerged from Africa around 80,000 years ago and succeeded to replace homonid cousins they found along the way (Neanderthal, Denosivan and at least two unnamed cousins).
If you do (and you must as the evidence for this is also as certain as a hot sun) then you must agree that migration into the subcontinent happened from outside at least at this point in time. From there one can gain an epiphany of understanding the nuance of the argument being made in this video and what that means....this is not a restatement of anything new...it is yet another reduction in the fog of ignorance that had existed in our understanding of the complexity of the migrations. The question of if they happened is obvious for all reasons.
Note even here the careful language used to describe this particular research in the video at the end:
"Looking at our own history...which have taken place in Eurasia...and the unity of the human civilization is also important. That we all came from Africa, then we had these two major expansions that took place in Eurasian and this what has shaped what we know the modern society to be ..or a major part of it. "
^^^ That's the qualified statement of Scientist who knows the research very well. Heed his example.
Nice try but everyone can see the deception
What deception ? explain please
@@CowBhai Seriously
Out of Africa THEORY, is just that, a theory.
You're appealing to authority and telling everyone 'trust me guys', people are not stupid they can see marxist bs, they dont want to except out of africa theory which was conjured up to remove the concept of race, nice try not cigar.
The Hunter Gatherers/African, descendants, still lives there. So they are the indigenous people of India..
That doesn’t make any sense! You are assuming that there was never any migration out of Africa! If what you’re saying is true then I cannot be an African descendant because the majority of them still live there 🙄 migrations happened! I have Baloch, about 13%, because there was migrations happening! Make sense please! 😩
@@MercyAlwyz23 i stated that, due to migration from South/East Africa, the first humans in India, are indigenous people from Africa, research, you'll see, but please don't comment on a subject, you have little to no knowledge of..
@@n.i.gcode_name_nation3971 I will comment on it because I have researched it and this is not my first time hearing him speak! You go do more research!
@@MercyAlwyz23 That can't be your response 😅 you really are that behind, you willingly mislead yourself on a TH-cam comment, and then instead of admitting that, you misread my comment, you begin talking crap, wtf to that.. your IQ is in single digits 😆
Both Indians & Africans are the descendants of Cush, technically called the Cushites. Most religions in India was started by one of Cush’s son called Nimrod. Indians and Africans are just one group of people.
Have you seen similarities between Indians & Somalia or Ethiopia? It’s not by coincidence, Indians and Africans came from Cush
Genetics:
Bloodlines have connected the dots ( Science as in Genetics )
There is "general agreement" that north and south Indians share a common maternal ancestry which indicates that those who invaded Indus Valley were only Men and later interbred with local population. A series of studies show that the Indian subcontinent harbors two major ancestral components namely the Ancestral North Indians (ANI) which is "genetically close to Middle Easterners, Central Asians, and Europeans", and the Ancestral South Indians (ASI) which is clearly distinct from ANI. These two groups mixed in India between 4,200 and 1,900 years ago (2200 BCE-100 CE), where after a shift to endogamy took place, possibly by the enforcement of "social values and norms" by the "Hindu Gupta rulers".
The first steps ever by genetic science into the Harappan space, both studies are based on DNA samples taken from those same burials at Rakhigarhi.
Importantly, the R1a genetic marker, typical of the Western Central Asian Steppes, is missing in the Rakhigarhi sample.
“The Rakhigarhi samples have a significant amount of ‘Iranian farmer’ ancestry. You won’t find this DNA in the north Indian population today, but only in south Indians,” said Niraj Rai, head of the Ancient DNA lab at Lucknow’s Birbal Sahni Institute for Palaeosciences. He also said ““We aren’t getting any Central Asian gene flow in Rakhigarhi. Comparing Rakhigarhi with data from modern Indian populations, we have concluded that they have more of an affinity with the Ancestral South Indian tribal population compared to the north Indian population.”
Some people argue that there was no Aryan Invasion. If there was no invasion why is there only a relationship in "male" DNA (y-chromosome) between Indians and the other indoeuropean people? Only 17% of Indians carry the indoeuropean male dna signature. But in the west there are populations where the share is almost 100% and no trace of the ancient indian male DNA (DNA that would correspond to the ancestors of the Dravidian part of the Indian population) can be found anywhere to the West of the Indian subcontinent. Why is the indoeuropean DNA only found in the upper castes?
The Aryan invasion theory is uniformly and categorically accepted at every single university of international repute and there is no serious scholar in the field of Indo-European Studies who thinks otherwise.
Who built Indus Valley Civilization?
Many scholars believe that Neolithic Iranians (Iranian Agriculturalists)/Elamites got mixed with South Asian Hunter Gatherers and formed I.V.C.
Every Historian who specialized in Indian History knows that before the Aryans entered India , The Elamites had entered India.
Some claim that it was Dravidian culture.
Meluḫḫa is the Sumerian name of a prominent trading partner of Sumer during the Middle Bronze Age. Most scholars associate it with the Indus Valley Civilization.
Many scholars today who confidently identify Meluhha with the Indus Valley Civilization (modern South Asia) on the basis of the extensive evidence of trading contacts between Sumer and this region. Sesame oil was probably imported from the Indus River region into Sumer: the Sumerian word for this oil is illu (Akkadian: ellu). One theory is that the word is of proto-Dravidian origin: in Dravidian languages of South India, el or ellu stands for sesame. An alternative, proposed by Michael Witzel, is that it derived from a "para-Munda" language spoken in the Indus Valley Civilization.
There is extensive presence of Harappan seals and cubical weight measures in Mesopotamian urban sites. Specific items of high volume trade are timber and specialty wood such as ebony, for which large ships were used. Luxury items also appear, such as lapis lazuli mined at a Harappan colony at Shortugai (modern Badakhshan in northern Afghanistan), which was transported to Lothal, a port city in Gujarat in western India, and shipped from there to Oman, Bahrain and Sumer.
The Dravidians began in south-eastern Iran when Elamites migrating from the west (Khuzistan area) mixed with Eritrean Africans who had settled in the Ormozgan area. These African settlers had crossed Southern Arabia to get to south-eastern Iran and were absorbed by the Elamite migrants, becoming a new people called the Dravidians. The Dravidians migrated to the Indus River valley in 7000 BC, where they mixed further with Nihalis and Adivasis, and later the Mundas. They spread out to occupy the entire Indian sub-continent, but were later confined to the southern part when the Indo-Aryans arrived in India around 1300 BC.
Where did the Elamites come from? In 18,000 BC, the Kebarans (Proto-Boreans) arrived in Mesopotamia from the Horn of Africa. In 15,000 BC they split into the Nostratics, the Dene-Daics, the Afro-Asiatics, and the Amerinds. Around 12,000 BC, the Nostratics split into the Elamites, the Kartvelians, and the Eurasiatics (ancestors of the Indo-Europeans, and many others). The Dravidians branched off from the Elamites around 7000 BC.
The Elamitic language does resembles Dravidian. Mr.David McAlpin (Researcher) has made a demonstration based on 57 Elamite words (mostly verb stems) paired with corresponding Dravidian terms. The correspondences are, on the whole, straightforward and interlocking. A beginning is made in reconstructing the phonology of Proto-Elamo-Dravidian.
Below are some of the examples.
Elamites Dravidian Meaning
Un Unnu Eat/Drink
Vur Uru Place
Atta Attan Father
Slive Shiluve Holy Cross
Amma Amma Mother
Kol Kollu Kill
Ah Ah That
Hih Ih This
Illu Ellu Sesame
Elam Elam Land
Ni Ninu You
Elamite is mostly sematic than dravidan, elamite might have loan dravidan words as Indus were near to them.
There is lot of migration we're unanswered these assumption were based on present data, south Asia, China, south east Asia, Australia ancient DNA were not highlighted popularly..
for eg: Iranian farmers reached Indus around 7000 years with wheat, but there are some settlement in gangetic plain has rice which orgin in China.
Now genetics and archeologist assuming civilization direction is like turkey>Iranian>INDUS.
Now it's look like something neglected
Especially a mixture of DNA found among Australian aboriginals with 4200 years ancient south India migration. Now even before Indus people move to south how would they reached Australia?
@@xeonquantum3966 Thank you very much for the information.
In your opinion, Who might have built Indus Valley Civilization? And If you have more details about the Iranian farmers, please let me know.
Aryan in Sanskrit means Noble person and is used to address in respect.
Shiva the original god of the world and creator of Tamil as well, derived another language called Sanskrit out of it.
The basic alphabet and classification and differentiation is vowels and consonants is proof to that.
The letters ळ & ळ्ह (ള & ഴ) is found in vedic Sanskrit and only Tamil and Malayalam use them!
Shiva, the Aadi-Yogi taught Ayurveda and Yoga. He taught the Vedas & Upanishads, the Ramayana and puranas.
The eyes of the Vedas - Jyotishaastra was taught by his son Karthikeya or Muruga or Subrahmanya (of Brahma)!. His other son Ganapati wrote the Vedas, Upanishads, Puranas, Epics Mahabharata etc. His consort Parvati was daughter of Himalayas and therefore he migrated northwards and settled in Kailasa mountains.
Thus the vedic religion of Purusha, Brahma and Sakti, was propagated north!
The fisherwoman's son Vyaasa advised Ganapati to write the scriptures.
Later he taught it to his disciples and asked them to propagate essence of dharma throughout the different parts of the world. Vysambaaya went North India and taught the Vedas to the North Indians who took it further west as well to Europe via middle East crossing Hindukush & Afghanistan & Iran and even to Africa by the sea. The Naga worship is very common in the Western Indian peninsula of Kerala. In Kerala, the aristocratic Kshatriya/warrior class families had a specially debated area near their homes dedicated to the Naga God & goddess namely NagaRaja & NagaRani. That place is thick with forest trees and plants and nobody is to cut any of them.
Arjuna married a Naga princess named Uloopi.
Bhima as a boy was protected by the Nagas who benefited and took care of his health rejuvenating and making him capable with the power of 1000 elephants.
I like your comment. From what I see the Indus region has been a melting pot for well over 100,000 years with many small groups moving N and S with some major divides especially 70,000 years ago in which the region was emptied and then repopulated.
This left the Aboriginals in S Australia in place. The people that went to Africa over 100,000 years ago got cut off from any remixing and either mutated or mixed with other hominids and remained isolated until about 5,000 years ago in the horn of Africa.
@Hare Krishna there was a late migration to the Horn of Africa from the East. That is where the gene in Africa comes from. Into Africa
Many people may not understand the whole concept but in summary reasearch showed:
1. ALMOST every Indian is ASI+ANI gene combination (exceptions are recent migrants)
2. Above mentioned two genes orgin have mainly three sources (exceptions will be a fourth contributions of chinese/east asian gene which likely will be found in later studies as more evidence collect) : Ancient hunters gatherers, iranian agriculturalist and Stepes pasteuralists
3. ASI=Ancient hunters gatherers + iranian agriculturalist
4. ANI= Ancient hunters gatherers+ iranian agriculturalist + Stepes pasteuralists
5. Brahmin caste has more proportions of Stepes pasteuralists than other caste
5. Stepes pasteuralists migration is 'associated' with origin and spread on Indo-european language in India as well as Europe based on genetic research data.
WHAT study didnot show, neither claim
1. Hindusim as such an Identity of being India may predate above said migration. Brahmin and other castes structure may have developed in a later part of Indian history/culture
2. Migration may have borught different people as described above but may not have gave 'origin' to Indian/Hindusim religion
@ferzy09 wrong! Language is not equivalent to culture or religion. Steppes may have influenced the language and to some extent 'written' scripture', but NOT the culture or religion (say Hinduism). Hinduism or vedic life style was already developed and being practiced PRIOR to steppes migration. Proof: Rakhigiri skeleton sample lacks the steppes ancestry, however the archaeological evidence suggest it being same as harappa civilization. Therefore Hindu religion and in that sense Indian culture/civilization is way older than steppes migration (1500-2500 years ago) and much likely has developed EVEN BEFORE Iranian agriculturalist migration (8000-10000 years ago). Christianity as well as Islam is nothing but imitation of Hindu scriptures. All indian have SAME ROOT Genetic make up that is ASI gene, Its the ANI proportion that changes when we go from south to North.
What you said is Absolutely True
@Moses Tanui let me get it straight, according to your statement, Steppe people 'brought vedic religion'. Absolutely nonsense like 'Aryan invasion theory'. Aryan invasion theory was so wrong from its inception by colonialism, phrase keep on changing from 'Aryan invasion > aryan migration to no aryan mingling theory'. If talking about science, cite facts and figures not what you 'believe or taught to believe'
There is no 'equivalence to vedic religion' anywhere else where 'steppe pasteuralist' migrated. Read: Rest of western eurasia'. Your statement presume that 'religion just start out of thin air as soon as a race move into a much ancient heavily populated civilized society'. If steppes were 'inventor of 'Hinduism' or Vedic religion then they must have founded some other similar religion elsewhere in the world which YOU KNOW NOWHERE EXISTS.
Rakhigiri already has 'architecture in place' much similar to what had been found in other indus valley civilization AND Rakghigiri is ANCIENT than harappa and Mohanjodaro. So not finding 'any steppe DNA in Rakhigiri skeleton means ancient INDIANS (which were ASI & AASI gene pool in different mixture) already had a way of living in civilized society that westerner named it as 'Hinduism (i.e. Religion of people beyond Sindhu river). No Indian (read Hindu) neither will claims or whould claim that they follow a 'religion' rather they will belief a noble way of living life (Aryan word means Noble)
So who invented Hinduism or Vedic religion?
Answer is very simple: NOBODY. AASI gene (Native Africans, mother or father of all Homo sapiens race) flow happened in India much before 75000 years ago as it was happening elsewhere in the rest of the world as out of africa theory postulates. Difference lies than unlike rest of the world where african people (hunters and gatherers) kept on moving rather than settling, in India, they SETTLED (Read about Andman Nicobar Island Tribe. Why they settled only in India for such a long time, there is no clear explanation. Over the course of > 75000 years, there was already a 'way of living developed among these nomads Hunter and gatherers' which was significantly different than Hunter and gatherer society elesewhere (Read about ancient cave arts found in M.P. and southern states of India). 'Shiva worship was already developed by these native Indians PRIOR to Then Iranian agriculturalist migration around 10000 years ago. I can keep going on and on here but let me stop here with final comment:
INDIANS HAS THEIR IDENTITY AS RACE/RELIGION/ETHNICITY/WAY OF LIVING IN HARMONY (THEY WELCOME AND MIXED WITH NEW GENE POOL BUT KEPT THEIR UNIQUENESS OF BEING INDIAN/HINDU/HUMAN Throughout this migration waves) and this has >50000 YEARS old ANCESTRY. INDIAN GENE HAS BEEN AND WILL KEEP ON MIXING WITH NEW COMING GENE POOL (The way it was done while forming ASI, ANI and a new yet to be classified gene pool where Indian gene pool mixed with east asian/Chinese gene pool).
Hope it clears some doubts and propaganda.
We should be aware that the "expert" in the video is only postulating a theory that Europeans have developed. Let us realize that these are all THEORIES. None of these theories have been confirmed.
@Moses Tanui I thought you were moron to delete the previous comment which I debunked with evidence and citation. Of course reading skills is not in your ancestor, so cant help you. Keep on sh@@t of Christianity propaganda. At least Jews has some substance to come with their own version of religion, Christians like you has got in your genes to do plagiarism and not acknowledging the originator. Going above your head,, I guessed so...
Aryans and dravideans are mixed race in north india and Pakistan nowadays.
no some races in punjab and surrounding areas like GUJJARS and JATTS have the most aryan genes not just around that area but also they have the most aryan blood in the whole WORLD. FACTS !
Not in Pakistan but in India
@@sandygurjar22 Gurjars and Jats are Kshatriyas
@V R did you read the history , do you know Rajputs are half Gujjar blood , you are saying Jatts and Gujjars are shudras , who are you ? whats your caste? whats your agenda ? please speak with evidence , is it because you were beaten by a Gujjar or Jatt?
@V R sorry to break it for you but the fact is the real aryans , infact the only aryans were Jutts and Gujjars and their cousin castes and the rest of the people around their areas for example Iran and Afghanistan are more mixed with indigeous population and claim to be aryans, which i dont mind atleast they have some aryan blood , the onl thing which pisses me off is that people try to rewrite history again and again and no one gives a fuck about the truth or no one tries to take time out and research
The ancestors of all Indian, either north or south, were from Elam of Sumeria. Early people under Elamite kingdom came from Elam to India in search of land and water for cultivation and settled from Indus to Kanya Kumari. The later people under Assyrian kingdom who spoke Mittanni language came from Elam to India as Warriors to con quire land and mixed with earliar people of India and paved the way for a new spiritual society. That is why entire Indian are genetically related and vocally varied.
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No, this is not true...The Mitanni probably travelled from Bharat and originated from there.
All humans come from Africa 75,000 years ago. Their skin colour and other aspects of their appearances were affected by the climates they arrived in and lived in for many thousands of years. They are all connected by their genes which change like the beads on a necklace, and these can be traced in all our genes. My deep ancestry shows that connection with the first women that came out of Africa and went in a group of humans to India. Africans were the first explorers! When my family went to Kenya, they were stepping back in time to the places that they had come from 75,000 years ago. Cynthia Allen McLaglen
That is a theory, not a history.
Wise man once said
"Apes strong together"
let it be like that, enough of ya'll in the comments quarrelling over personal beliefs...(welp now they after me)
I kno that wise man lol...shud i say 'man'...confused
@@sbslm1 lol
NORTH INDIANS are migrants....they are not patronage of This land.....So Before asking someone outsider think about self million times...
@@vedicindian5333 asshole it's not about dravidian or aryan. If you think the so called aryans are North Indians and so called dravidians are South then you're seriously wrong.
Btw.. Entire Indian race is considered a degraded one in your fascist hierarchical ideologies.
Excellent technical discussion on the latest work in this area...would love to see more. We Scientist need to stop dumbing down our work when relaying it to laymen....it's time to bootstrap the human family....in this critical time such clear thinking and respect for rigor is super important for us to find the solutions that will allow us to minimize the discord on the way from our many mistakes in steward of this one planet that we all share, that can harbor our life.
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The RSS sanghis are frothing with rage in the comments.
I don't see anyone frothing...except librandus like u
@@Saukingalpha That is because to froth is the nature of sanghis, hence you dont see any abnormality here in the discussions. But we can see how crazy you guys have become because this scientific evidence demolishes the ideology taught in your stupid shakhas. You guys are losing your foundation gradually with such evidences. Jai Hind, RSS mofos murdabaad !
@@prashanthb6521 it's absolutely worthless discussing anything with sanghis because they won't give a logical response (because they don't have any). Mostly they'll just troll you when they know they're losing their side of arguments
@@bhishmainfinity9202 what type of game r u playing ? And what exactly u want to prove ?😂😂 Bhai kehna Kya chahta he..
@@Saukingalpha irony
I take stock in a theory that the Indo European Migration was mainly a male Y lineage migration, while maternal lineages would have remained mainly indigenous or agriculturist decent... very similar to the demographic shift that took place in Latin America during the Spanish Conquests..
Indo Ariërs
Good point. Maternal dna would be the majority especially in a large place like India. Hunter gatherer and farmers would be the highest percentage in Indian dna. Also I am not sure of this Steppe theory? Sounds like some Eurocentric revisionist history. European's language could never have come from Asia. Wrong!
" Eurasia as opposed to Asia proper"
"Eurasia" greater population needed???
@@sotonyechukwu7786
Could have been, i guess thats up to the evidence as one may want to define it.. historical context has countless subtleties and nuances also.. perhaps it was even an indian migration that left and returned, or even settled in europe?? 🤷♂️.. i dont generally base my opinion on eurocentriccism either as much as i do in seeing cultural patterns in general and matching within the frame work of a date. if evidence adds up i take the data as is far as my best judgement at the time, although it to can be subject to change
If you assess the current picture, the peoples of India love to move out of India. You can find them all over the world. This could have been the trend from the earliest times.
😂🤣🤣🤣
The Steppe Proto-Indo European Urheimat theory has one major issue though. The Hittite samples (oldest known Indo European group) miss any sort of Steppe genetic signature. Which makes most scientists argue that the Steppes is a secondary homeland where the large majority of Indo European languages spred from into Europe and South and Central Asia. However the Anatolian branch split from the core before reaching the Steppes, probably somewhere in the Southeastern Caucasus.
That's actually quite an interesting and relevant point. Thanks.
@@vampireducks1622 that's interesting but i've heard somewhere that the original theorist of the Anatolian hypothesis had retracted his theory.
I request you to look into the work of Shrikant Talageri who argues for India as the PIE homeland. He also has few youtube videos that can act as a primer.
@@chaitanyans3185 Indian right wing who can't accept they r migrated to India. Stop this nonsense. Don't put ur religious racist sentiments in science
@@gobimurugesan2411 mejority of indian looks like dark skinned people and closer to Dravidian genetically except Kashmiri, Punjabi,
Glad to know I have African blood in me although I'm indian,
I have 0.8% African blood in me I’m Turkic Kashmiri of korkota empire
(Noble Turkic family of the ghazanavid nd Mughal empire ) haplogroup q1*
@manu hes a groveller, he grovels towards africans.
@Hare Krishna Or possibley a hired mercenary archer from Ta Seti in the Roman army.
Why does that matter? Every human being is a homosapien and are all equal.
Hare Krishna you might as well consider that as stupidity
Russia and Europe did not exist during the Ice Age... and Central Asia was part of Eurasia India and Persia. Most of the languages come from Vedic Sanskrit and Avesta...
So this is proof that there is no Aryan migration in history....only India and Persia's culture, languages, people, gods and civilizations are found all over the world.
Rig Veda is the scripture of Aryans. If u don't flow the vedas then u are not an Aryans. Culture is what makes your identity not your bloodline..it's a line from vedas
So this seems to be saying that original Indians are the forefather of the Andaman and Australian tribes. South Indians came from Iran and North Indians came from the Central Asian Steppe. Both can't be called original Indians!! Early Indus valley could be culturally more Iranian and later could be more Steppe. Today's Indian culture is a mix of whatever was left at the end of the Indus valley. But today's Iranians don't look like South Indians and steppe people look more Mongoloids than whites. North Indians could't be decedents of the Mongoloids. It would be interesting to know more about what happened after Indus Valley to these lands. I don't think this study has answered anything and there are more holes in the new theories they are proposing.
plz see my comment for clarification. None of todays Indians are 'pure' hunter gatherers, iranian or stepes but rather a MIXTURE of all three.
No he says South Indians migrated north and mixed with the farmers.
Mahan you lack some historic context. Things to note the south Indian population came from "present day Iran" at that time there was no country called Iran as the Aryan hadn't settled there yet. It was much later that the Eurasian Steppe migration brought Aryans to Iran. Iran is another rendering of the word Aryan. Likewise it was much later in history the mongoloids moved to steppe of Eurasia.
If I may add, the Indus civilisation which was well over 5000 years old was trading with the agricultural settlements of Mesopotamia before the dawn of the Persian empire.
More like the other way around unless you're claiming the Andaman islanders were the original people of India.
The original South Asians were dark skinned people like Dravidians And Veddoids as well as Adaman, Nicobar, And Sentinal Islanders the latter three that are more purpleISH in color. North West South Asia became lighter due to mixture with Mediteranneans And Non Med Europeans And Non Med Caucasus Peoples as well as in North East India from mixture with Kiratas which are East Asiatic Mongoloids yeah.
wow || someone is trying for basics of our history. ................. Great ........
this pre-history is responsible for medival history , our mindset .........
Addendum: Dear Probir, while I completely agree with the scientific outlook and the approach that needs to be taken in studying ancient history, I would like to point out that though most of mythology is filled with imaginary details, it does help in setting up a few ideas about the mindset of the people who created those myths. I am an atheist and far more likely to be dismissive about myths and legends, but I do believe that some of the history of a region can be surmised or gleaned from folklore and from legends and the languages used then. I am not saying that it is a perfect method or that it is even logical every time, but from our modern outlook we could possibly extrapolate some of the myths - maybe distillation would be a better way to describe it.
I am no Pargiter, nor do I even approve of the way his history was obtained. However, I do see that some of it could indeed be plausible. Say, the Nagas, who I believe fervently were probably the original inhabitants of this land. The Naga aradhana cult spreads from distant South India to the very Northern-NorthEastern borders. All the puranas and the folklore mention the conflicts between Kshatriyas and the nagas who are often described as vile, craftily opportunistic and violent people.
My idea is that this might actually be the contempt of the invaders for the losing side, the indigenous people. So, mythology might not exactly be completely useless. Sifting fact from fiction is a perilous task, but if we could extract something from the chaff, would it not be useful?
(I know that you were talking of a far more ancient period but it still would make sense to look at some of the linguistic comparisons, from ancient mythology of not just this region but elsewhere too).
bhai, thoda brief main bata dete toh achcha hota
The Nagas belonged to the Palaeo-mongloid group that migrated to India years before the Indo-Aryan.
@@sonu214 True. But you are talking about the modern nagas. I was referring to the Naga cult that existed long before that, and not just in the north-eastern part of India. Naga worship, for instance, was a part of the Dravidian culture.
@@kishoretejaswi1948 I see then it must be the first group to transit to India the hunter gatherer group or the negrito from the central Africa.Now mostly confined to the islands of Andaman and Nicobar.
@@sonu214 Hmm, that is a complex construct and I am not sure that is true. I used to live in the Andamans, myself. But, I cannot be certain that is true. Good thinking, though. (Why noname, though? :D )
Also, when it comes to "confined", perhaps you forget the Siddis.. the habishis, rather.. albeit, late-comers to this place..
Very interesting though complex to comprehend fully !
Probably should have had focused more on my geography classes 😆
Hey, , do you have any Prove nooo, I Show you, that Whole Indian have same DNA, there is no Arian invation.
1)
m.th-cam.com/video/_BCXAUEBgO4/w-d-xo.html
2)we don't need to Prove that we are because, we show the world enough, that we are Interligent than North Indian.
1)99% of CEOs in Famous Companies in the World from South India (Google CEO, Microsoft CEO, PepsiCo CEO, Adobe CEO etc..)
2)ISRO is controlled and oparated by South in Indian
3)Indian 85% Economy Runned by South states ( Maharashtra, Tamil Naadu, Thelungana, kerala, etc..)
3)human development index in South states higher than North States...
[We r proud to say, that we r from south..]
Sory, I don't want to Insult, North poeple. But If the North guys do like that, then we have to show them, what's the Reality is bro.
Yes the people from Eurasia migrated long time back to India but not all of us are very mixed and Indian irrespective of our genetic ancestry .
South Asians are basically Caucasoid while some have Mongoloid admixture. There are three ancestry components in modern Indians: native hunter gatherers, Iranian farmers and Steppe pastoralists. The Iranian farmers component together with the Steppe pastoralists make up the predominant majority of the ancestry of modern South Asians. The native hunter gatherers component makes up only a minority today. Also the main paternal lineages such as R1a, R2, H, L and J are all of West-Eurasian origin. The “Indian cline” is part of the West-Eurasian cluster. Also anthropologic studies show that Indians are Caucasoid. The native hunter gatherers, known as Veddoid are distinct from East Asian or Andamanese. The Veddoids are closest to other Caucasoid populations. Some suggest that Veddoid is the proto-Caucasoid group.
Looks like when you fap then you also utter terms like "Caucasoid", "West Eurasian"!😂😂😂
Many Indians are a mix Caucasian, Mongoloid and Aboriginal . Some more Asian or Asian/ Caucasian mix some mostly white( Caucasian) and some here and there mostly Australian/ African .
Indians dark skin and broad features do not come from west eurasians 🤣. Were mostly west eurasian for sure, but saying "minority" is dismissive. Southern eurasian mt dna, aasi, and asi contributed much more to south asia than east eurasian populations. How can these be proto "caucasoid" if they have little to nothing to do with the Caucasus mountains? The later groups, sure, because theres actual genetic contributions into the ME and Steppes from populations from there. But south asian hubter gatherers? Cmon man.....
modi family migrated from uganda
Haha
Muhammad migrated from alibaug 😂
Haha
@@nileshsingh4206 Bhagwan was an Australian aboriginie 😂
@Kyle Broflovski Kalway woe somalian nahi lagta; tu somalian lagta hai. Get a reality check.
When you say people of India, doesn't that include Indians from Northeastern region of the country specially the 8 NE states ?? Whereas we all know that India shares ancestry of not only Aryan and Dravidian but of Mongoloids too, so why not the mention of it ? It's because of little things like this neglect of Northeastern people that we have failed to educate the mainland Indians of the mere existence of Northeast Indians and so the instances of racism in our country. Don't you agree ?
As a matter of fact, the study of East Asian ancestry will help understand the North Eastern and Eastern India.
Nevertheless, thanks for this educative video.
Hey, Idiotssss, do you have any Prove nooo, I Show you, that Whole Indian have same DNA, there is no Arian invation.
1)
m.th-cam.com/video/_BCXAUEBgO4/w-d-xo.html
2)we don't need to Prove that we are because, we show the world enough, that we are Interligent than North Indian.
1)99% of CEOs in Famous Companies in the World from South India (Google CEO, Microsoft CEO, PepsiCo CEO, Adobe CEO etc..)
2)ISRO is controlled and oparated by South in Indian
3)Indian 85% Economy Runned by South states ( Maharashtra, Tamil Naadu, Thelungana, kerala, etc..)
3)human development index in South states higher than North States...
[We r proud to say, that we r from south..]
Sory, I don't want to Insult, North poeple. But If the North guys do like that, then we have to show them, what's the Reality is bro.
@@vikashkumar-ey4ks Fix up your language and grammer at first,Mr SmartyPants.
@@vikashkumar-ey4ks you are not a joker but a whole circus😂😂
Can't even spell
And having a yt video as proof😂
@@ankhiroy3421 dude you almost killed him😂😂
@@vikashkumar-ey4ks really? An Arunachali has same DNA as a Gujarati? Rofl.
Indian languages have no relationship with African languages either.
Are we free of biases while collecting and interpreting data. Are we not giving an undue hype for Fertile Crescent by using domestication of wheat as sole marker for farming. Wheat/bread and barley is a staple diet in the West, that spends considerable money on research. What makes wheat so special among food grains as a the marker for agriculture. Population-wise, rice is a staple food for vast majority of human population in Asia. What story does rice cultivation say?
Don't forget marijuana cultivations.
Before listening to any internet Expert search his/her name 😂😂 and i find out he has some political interests so 🙏bye bye
Doesn't explain how the Austronesian and Adivasi group like Munda ended up in central India. What is the reason for discriminating against them ?
He didn't discriminate. I am 1% Malay along with my Indian heritage. He will cover that later.
Mundas came from South-East Asia, entering India via the current north-eastern region of India. Munda tribes(I'm referring to the complete set of tribes here) form a very low percentage of the total Indian population, probably that's why he didn't consider that.
www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-40399-8
They maybe the same tribe like the khasi which both maybe austroasiatic
They never mention the adivasis. They just start from a middle common point.
What I want to know is were Indian Muslim were Hindus and turned Muslim or they have other origins?
I think tbey are mostly converts. Some muslim rulers came to india with their soldiers and their families. However india has a huge population so they eventually married the local hindu converts to islam. Those mixed kids married the converts again etc.
@@freandwhickquest I found out later after commenting this, that Indian Muslim 70 percent were from Arab other were convert
U can guess who's who with cast name
Sir... appreciated your efforts...but pls make it little more simple way ... quite complicated for common man...sorry sir
Hey, Idiotssss, do you have any Prove nooo, I Show you, that Whole Indian have same DNA, there is no Arian invation.
1)
m.th-cam.com/video/_BCXAUEBgO4/w-d-xo.html
2)we don't need to Prove that we are because, we show the world enough, that we are Interligent than North Indian.
1)99% of CEOs in Famous Companies in the World from South India (Google CEO, Microsoft CEO, PepsiCo CEO, Adobe CEO etc..)
2)ISRO is controlled and oparated by South in Indian
3)Indian 85% Economy Runned by South states ( Maharashtra, Tamil Naadu, Thelungana, kerala, etc..)
3)human development index in South states higher than North States...
[We r proud to say, that we r from south..]
Sory, I don't want to Insult, North poeple. But If the North guys do like that, then we have to show them, what's the Reality is bro.
The dravidians mixed with indo europens who came from near armenian and turkey as well as east asian and others along the way
Dravidians of Indus valley civilization are a mixture of first Indians and immigrants from an area in present day Iran. This happened in c.7000 BC. Indo European entered India c. 1500 BC when Indus valley civilization was on the decline. There was some mixture between these two initially to form ancient north Indians.
There is no thing as dravidians or aryans its just refer to the region! Infact the real dravidian came from( dira vadam-dira viyam) meaning people who travel along the coast! Ancient south indians had trade with rome and mesopotania! Watch nomadic professor video on tamil nadu!!
@@Sathish_12 please do not use the word Dravidian...the word is of recent origin. The right word to use is ancient Tamil civilization
@A
No.
Indo Europeans came from Eurasian Steppe.
@A
Steppe is not really Europe.
Why is it so difficult for Indians and modern humans to accept that their DNA originated from Africa? The very first human(DNA) is that of Lucy. Lucy is from Africa. This is more than 65000 years old. It is so sad that people hate themselves to the point of refusing to believe that they are from AFRICA. ALL civilization began in AFRICA!
I can see some triggered pure Aryans and pure Dravidians in comment section😂😂😂
They all just brainwashed butt hurt people😂😂😂
I am mixed of Dravidian and Aryans😭
@@dontwastetimeyouarelosingr8172 yes bro Indians is a mixed race
This is an excellent vid! Congratulations and thanks.
Not bad. Modern Indians are Iran origins. But there was darker skin people living in India before.
FOWLPRESS NETWORK SOLUTION actually genetics of modern indo europeans goes back to india 50000 years ago.but there are a lot of back and forth in between
5000 to 6000 years ago Indus valley civilization faced massive draught, they were migrated to middle East Asia, Europe, India and south east Asia. This is the reason ancient Greek and ancient Indian civilization has similarities in cultures and languages.
Mr.Subramanya Hegde you are so funny man😂😂
It wasn't farmers that drove migration. It was Aryan Warriors. If you had a skin shade darker than milk and didn't want your head cut off you fled south. That's why the more south you go in the Indian sub-continent the darker the skin tone. Not farmers. Warriors.
Color changes according to where you live.
Whether tropical or equatorial or polar determines the shades.
Nothing to do with Aryan.
There word Aryan it's Sanskrit and therefore one should refer only the Sanskrit texts to define it!
If you try otherwise, it will only lead to untruth.
@@universalphilosophy8081 well Indonesians are on the equator whereas Indians who are darker are above it.
@@gazibizi9504
Didn't tell that heat is reason for colour
@@universalphilosophy8081 neither did I imply.
Keezladi excavation will tell more about tamils and Tamils are original ancestors of India.
Telugu ?
Stop being stupid .......
Ha Ha Tamils have more Ancestral South Indian DNA not ivc
As far as I know, there was a very early huther gatherer migration(hunter gatherers) consisting of a north and south branch; a migration of iranic peoples (farmers) into the north west, a migration of the indo europeans (charioteers) into the northwest.
Some races in punjab and surrounding areas like GUJJARS and JATTS have the most aryan genes not just around that area but also they have the most aryan blood in the whole WORLD. FACTS !
Hare Krishna hahaha really. Gujjars came after 800 ad onwards and indus civilization were usually indegious people. Have you researched or read history or just involving other races with yours joker
Hare Krishna and joker who do you think were real aryans? Lets debate with facts
Yes jat pure Aryans Haryana punjab west up rajsthan delhi
@@rudejatz1248 yes and gujjars too , gujjars and jatts are from same family
Most intelligent are south indian Tamil and keralite world CEOs
Where are those Dravidian Nationalists who always accuse North Indians of being outsiders now?
Ironically the Iranian_Neolithic ancestry survived in North Indian more than South while the language of the Iranian_Neolithic people survived more in the South than North. The Iranian_Neolithic ancestry and even Steppe ancestry is found uniformly in all of India the major difference is the frequency of South Eurasian H&G DNA which is being gradiently stronger in the South compared to the North. Also I think the authors of the Video missed to point out that these Yamnaya pastoralists were in themselves a mixture of Iranian_Neolithic like Farmers and EUrasian Steppe H&G.
@Hare Krishna Caucasus Hunters and Gatherers, as the name implies are far too old to be the source for the Iranian_Calcolthic related DNA in the Yamnaya.
@Hare Krishna Why do you (A dravidian nationalist) name yourself "Hare Krishna"???
That is irony.
@Hare Krishna There is no such thing as dravidian. We are all a mix.
PROUD TO BE FINLAND/SOUTH RUSSIAN/YAMNAYA/PAKISTANI/TELUGU AND CENTRAL ASIAN -- BY MY OWN REAL DNA TEST!!! I regret that I am not brown or tan, but I am Gori and know I am a Gori Indian! My own genetics prove the path he is showing! the only thing im unhappy with is the girl completely covered the map of east india and didn't move to let us see Path # 2!!!
No boi, you not Central Asia
Aryan by Birth - Brahmin, Kshatriyas & Vaisyas
Dravidian by Birth - Sudras & Paraiahs (Dalits)
Truth is ALL upper caste North Indians are ALL ARYANS, and all lower caste Sudras & Paraiahs (Dalits) are all Dravidians.
People living in Indian Sub continent who are ALL fair in complexion have mostly Steppeland genes in their DNA these people are basically Aryan. People living in Indian Sub continent who are Dark in complexion have mostly South Asian Hunter Gatherer genes in their DNA these people are Dravidian [Tamils] basically.
Tamils means NOT the current day Tamil Nadu state people alone, they represent all Sudras & Praiahas [Dalit] lived across Indian sub - continent. Even today, you can see dark skinned and pale dark skinned people living in North, South, East & West of India, they were all Tamils only in ancient India.
The ancient text Manusimriti designate the Shudra as Peasants and Artisans i.e. Farmers and All Craftsman, Shudra is NOT to mean slaves.
Read the following facts about DNA Studies.
Why R1A1 DNA originates in EUROPE, but not in india. why it is it not found or too less in percentage among South Indian people ?
Why M haplogroups DNA is not found in Upper caste Aryans or North indians ? If found why so less ?
If you have read Vedas there are lots of mention about a food made of Horse meat, then why HORSES are not native to INDIA ?
Why copper hoard culture found only with Aryans, but not with Dravidians ?
Why antenna swords found in Sinauli - India which belongs to BMAC - Bactria-Margiana Archaeological Complex ?
Haplo M is found among 60% of modern day indians. It is in every person from south. But here’s the main catch ! It’s only found in depressed classes of northern and tribal peoples of northen india. But, almost to zero to 1-4% among Higher caste Aryans or North indians.
Just like R1A1 not found in south in the same way south’s M groups are not found among R1A1 peoples of north.
So, it is proved beyond doubt that "ALL upper caste North Indians are ALL ARYANS, and all lower caste Sudras & Paraiahs (Dalits) are all Dravidians"
This is long wars between...
YAMNAYA(15% Indian -GEN. people) and Purest NATIVE INDIAN (Nagvanshi/Dravidian)
Inhumane 🕉️ Brahmanism vs Only eternal truth ☸️
Superstitious vs Scientific
Yamnaya makes BHARAT weaker than Africa, They are actual threat for national security...
SC+ST+OBC+MN vs GEN+EWS
ARYAN originates from East Europe
YAMNAYA originates from Jerusalem (Lost Jewish community of Israel)
We must be officially used YIT instead of AIT
Brahmanism and Jewish community are against humanity and mankind
Look at 'Parmar Empire'
Parmar(largest community of 🇮🇳) comes under SC, and with other in OBC ST, Chola were also...
No doubt, Earlier Indian were weavers, cultivates land and survive on domestic animal...
All other community comes under this community...
th-cam.com/users/shorts9rpybHTwUmk?feature=share
Now asshol*e use 'Parmer Empire' use for Hindutva propaganda, that's is against humanity...
No connection of Parmer with Hindu/Brahmanism...
They were pure Bhuddhist
@@deepakrajouri9703wrong Brahmins are with humanity
I would be curious to know how organizations like RSS would react to such videos. Would this organization call this professor an anti-national as well?
What else can you expect? 😂
@@sharonprem1 nothing else but stupidity 😂😂😂
😂😂
Well done! Concise and interesting narrative integrating relevant findings and hypotheses into a compelling picture of the forces driving human migration patterns.
In other words Aryan migration theory is a fact
but not true
Aryan is indigenous, but yamnaya are not...
few additions: Previous studies have already showed:
Although EVERY Indians has ASI+ANI genes, neither just one of it.
South Indians have more proportion of ASI than ANI.
North Indians have more proportion of ANI than ASI.
Hinduism literatures, like rigveda have data (not backed by genetic study, but mainly based on astronomical facts mentioned in them) to show OUR INDIAN IDENTIDITY AS AN HINDU (i.e. Indian) may PREDATE above two genes origin or mixture.
You can't rid of your wonderful religion obsession.
@@vineethjoshy4819 And you can't get rid of your anti-Hindu obsession. Wonder why?
@@swamiganesh2875 And what is your own attitude towards Christians. Check your original reply and see the kind of language you have used against Christians.
Mixing happened much earlier I think. The scriptures came later.
@@prashanthb6521 There was mixing from the time Indo-Europeans came in 1500 BC from Steppes till 100 AD. It was then the caste system was introduced and the mixing stopped and marriages became endogamous, that is, within the castes.
Pure native Indians dna are still available those belong to adivasis n tribes. Till today only higher castes have taken dna test. It has proven steppe Aryan migration. This guy only spoke of Aryan invasion. Dravidian Harappa mohenjodaro civilization which extended from pak to Srilanka, the bones have been found, got rice farming from Egypt.
Dravidian SouthIndians+pre Dravidian tribes have more Australian aboriginals, Native American/East Asian DNA which for NorthIndians, still exists in their ASI DNA in miniscule amounts. They Aryan mixed with females of south by force obviously by eliminating the men. Therefore matrilineal is still showing SouthIndian(Dravidian). Patrilineal is Steppe+anatolian(Aryan). Still Indian brahmins dont want to say Dravidian as its a dirty word like native American is for America. They still haven't grouped Australian+American+east Asian DNA troupe as no mythology of ANI connects to that part. Maybe south holds the key.
Iam pure indian 🇮🇳
I find it funny that researchers don't include the saraswati river system + the Punjab area + the Ganges river bank as the fertile crescent.
@Aesthetic Aura then maybe the whole idea of civilization being limited to this shape maybe equally absurd
They refer fertile crescents to those that were used by humans.
@@themythicfire how do you say the area near Saraswati river and the Ganges river bank were not inhabited?
@ferzy09 😂😂 there is evidence just that it doesn't work along with the Christian and islamic even European propaganda
@@regal2311 how can a worshipped of thunder gods origin From Gracelands 😂 ? All Indo European worshipped thunder or rain storm gods as main god
They must have origin in river based region not steppe region ( however they migrated to steppe )
He didn't tell about genetics proficiency and from where they came no proof given by him
And migration happen from which area
Conjecture? A very Eurocentric view but I am not surprised as this is often a part of a colonial mentality. Who were ancient Iranians and were there not people in India when they arrived. I agree that there have been many migrations into India. You talk about African hunters and gatherers but in my opinion you minimize this influence. If Africa was a domonant continent today aI believe what you yourself called conjecture your historical analysis would be quite different. What makes you think that migrations from Africa stopped? Also ai am not sure of the timing of rice cultivation but I imagine it is quite ancient similar to corn cultivation by the Native Americans? I wonder if you notice the pattern of attaching the beginig of agriculture to grains familiar in the West. In West Africa and Papua New Guinea yam cultivation existed as early as wheat cultivation in the Euphrates. Perhaps the European due their lack of familiarity with this food crop, still referred to this as hunting and gathering but it still is and always was farming. The dates of Teff cultivation in Ethiopia and sorghum cultivation in other parts of Africa may have also been as ancient.. Were the Khoi Khoi of South Africa the worlds oldest pastoral groups as they are a part of the Khoian group one of the worlds oldest people? There is a tendency to run away from African decent even when it is written all over you. It is not just hunters and gatherers but Ethiopians, Egyptians and Nubians. Many Tamils have acknowledged these are their origins. When you your linguistic studies how often are your languages compared with modern African languages? Languages like Telegu, Malayalam and Tamil have strong similarities with Mande and other Niger Congo African languages yet some want to insist Dravidian languages are Indo-European. Your video is informative and perhaps factual but I believe you only present one side of the story. Perhaps it is time we start researching the other side.It will be of benefit to us all. A tree without firm roots cannot stand. No offence intended. I love India. Its peoples and its fascinating cultures!
Farming has multiple origins. Different plants were domesticated in different parts of the word independently of each other. Wheat is currently the most popular crop in the world and it was domesticated in the middle east (just because wild wheat was already being eaten by middle eastern hunter gatherers just before the agricultural revolution). Teocinte, wild maize were also being used by american hunter gatherers before they started to domesticate that. Also it is demonstrated that when a HG group invents farming it quickly expands over their HG neigbors and mix with them. As you said, some subsaharan africans from cameroon also invented farming. They quickly increased in numbers and expanded through the continent. This is how the bantu language family expanded in africa. They pushed san hunter gatherers into kalahari desert.
all peoples who stay in north india is from caucasus asian centrals turcics europeans and indo so anatolian turcics samarkand is indo asitics europeanas that is our legacy of warriors indo europeans greetings from rroma turcics iranics from romania we love india iran love india turkey love india the land of indo europeans aryans northerns india and spread in all india the aryanism the nobbles peoples
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very very informative video. thank you
It means currently entire Pakistan and north India has European DNA in their lmao😂 now i realize why Britishers are so obsessed with this region specially Pakistan as Pakistan once was their darling to contain Soviets and Chinese unfortunately Pakistan had its own plans that they has Arab turk and afghan blood in their veins too despite of their European DNA this makes them a complicated and diverse nation as they are Aryans too
Refreshingly Original. Great Job. Timely too.
The expert is analysing recent (migration in the last 10,000 years) . Populations existed prior to 10,000 years in the entire region and the answer may be in periods before 10,000. For example,the oldest bow and arrow found outside of the african continent is found in sri lanka and not in India,Iran or western europe!
Tamils are the original natives of india
jj mm we know but India will never admit it because that will naturally make us in charge and change the currency in Tamil
@Hare Krishna your welcome ! You keep following me like a little dog , thats cute...and very entertaining
No..you were not evolved here.you also come from other places during human migration started
@Hare Krishna that is so cute my little vandheri dog!
No bro andaman nicobar islands.
Are they going to miss the african influence or they gonna ignore it completely...most Indians are part african to a small degree especially South Indians
Trust me south indians have a whole different story ever heard about kumarikandam ...
South Asians do not have recent African ancestry. Some have black skin and it is the natural colour of the people who lived near the equator for a long time (tens of thousand years). Same goes with Andaman islanders, the Papuans etc. The Khoisan people (one of the oldest humans) who live in more southern latitudes have brown skin.
We are the children of Africa and this so called Dr didn't mention that once lol
Not worth mentioning at all seeing as every ethnic group are children of Africa if you go far back enough. (according to out of Africa theory)
Modern-day Indians are a mix of other ethnic groups, only a small percentage in the south still carry African genes.
Well Not true Same. Came from Africa Not all !!!!
He did mention it once in the beginning. He doesn't have to repeat or emphasize it as this discussion was not about where all modern humans came from. This discussion was only focusing on the migration into South Asia and a slight parallel to the migration into Western and Norther Europe.
@@DocRealTalk Anything and anyone classified as Human carries African blood as a base unless if you not a human being.
@@jahmarsshiva5064 Anything classified as human being carries African blood as a base.
Small minded people never will understand how and where and why migration happened. Planet earth three million years ago had ice free north and south poles, so what exactly means that? It means people currently waiting on the surface of the earth their far ancestries started their journey from northern plains to southern plains in to India and Africa. Many time throughout history within that three million years earth was covered with ice and forced our far ancestors into southern parts of planet earth. To southern India and to Africa, people from southern India never moved out of that part of earth they stayed there and created many small countries and civilizations grew in territory of India because south India close to tropics. The rest of far ancestors migrated to African continent they migrated back to Eurasia, this is the whole truth
There is substantial evidence that the Indus Civilisation was pre- Aryan.
The Indus Civilisation was mainly urban, while the early Vedic society was rural and pastoral. There were no cities in the Vedic period.
The Indus seals depict many animals but not the horse. The horse and the chariot with spoked wheels were the defining features of the Aryan-speaking societies. The bronze chariot found at Daimabad in Western Deccan, the Southernmost Indus settlement, has solid wheels and is drawn by a pair of humped bulls, not horses.
The tiger is often featured on Indus seals and sealings, but the animal is not mentioned in the Rigveda.”
No one ever said the IVC was Aryan. The contention has always been that he Aryans invaded toward the end of the IVC.
Rob Browne ,s very good understanding.
Human cames from Humans and other humans will also come from Human .
its like Amy and sheldon speech.
Lol, I felt sorry for her. Reminded of conversations I used to have with my father. "When is this gonna end?" (eyes glossing over). Good info though.
Dravidians are a whole bunch of other peoples. South asians as a whole are indo ayran, dravidian, andamanese, east asian and other veddoid types. They're even linked with the aboriginals of Australia.
All Indians came from them one way or the other. They are not a different group as you assumes.
The Hindus of modem times trace their descent from these great sages, saints, and Rishis of pre-historic ages, and consider themselves blessed on account of such exalted lineage. They glory in the names of their forefathers, and feel an unconquerable pride because of the purity, unselfishness, spirituality, and God-consciousness of their holy ancestors. This noble pride has prevented the members of different communities from holding free intercourse and from intermarrying with foreigners and invading nations, and has thus kept the Aryan blood pure and unadulterated. If they had not possessed that tremendous national pride and had mixed freely with all people by whom they were over-run, we should not find in India today the full-blooded descendants of the pure Aryan family.
Hindu society is divided into hundreds of communities; each community consists of several clans and each clan has its own peculiar customs and rules. These clans, again, are made up of numerous families, ‘kula’, and the members of these families are the individual units. The members of the family are governed by the ‘kula-dharma’ or family customs, the families must obey the clan family customs, and the clan families must he governed by the rules of the community. The members of the family enjoy absolute freedom in everything that is approv-ed of by the other families of the same clan. If the common opinion of the majority of the families of one clan be against any act of violation of its long-standing custom, then it should not be performed. If any one dares to violate such custom, then he forfeits all the privileges which he may have in his family-life in the community. He will be deprived of social intercourse and relationship with the clan family and of the protection of the community.
This clan family is called in Sanskrit ‘gotra’. There is no English word by which I can translate this term, the literal meaning of ‘gotra’ being ‘lineage’, that is, the descendants of common ancestors. Originally there were about twenty-four Rishis who were gotra-makers or makers of clans. They were all sages and seers of truth, who lived in the Vedic period and were inspired. The hymns of the Vedas and other holy scriptures in India came through them, and they were leaders as well as clan-makers. We all trace our descent from these great Rishis.
Again, the community of many dans is called in Sanskrit jati, Greek ‘genus’, Roman ‘gens’, or the patriarchal family in the largest sense of the term. Each community consists of many clans, which live together, obeying the laws of the community. The rules of propriety and impropriety, marriage ceremonies and funeral rites, rituals and ceremonies, amusements and occupations, professions and industries, nay, all the details of social life must be in perfect harmony with the laws and customs which have been handed down through generations to the existing communities. These social laws are called ‘jati-dharma’ or the duties of a jati or community. Each clan family, from the lowest Pariah to the highest Brahmin, is guided and governed by the jati-dharma. No position, profession, or industry can be accepted by any member of a community if the community as a body disapproves of it. If any member wishes to fulfil a desire, he must first consider whether it is in perfect harmony with the customs of the family (kula-dharma), then with the duties of the dan family (gotra-dharma), and lastly with the laws of the community (jati-dharma); and, after establishing harmony with all these, he can do what he pleases. In case of difference of opinion, whatever the community decides for the family and the individual they must implicitly obey. The leaders of the community are the final authorities. The individual sacrifices his freedom for the sake of the family, the interest of the family is merged into that of the dan, and the clan sacrifices its interest for the community.
What is the use of background Map... You are simply talking... Explain with map
Europe is more a political than a geographical concept. Europe (that is, the name) 1000-1500 years (depending on the location on the map). The Jesuits called Europe according to their influence. In Latin, Europe is the east. Lomonosov wrote about this and other educated people.
People often misuse the word invasion in place of migration. Migration did happen as per latest research on genetics. They didn't say anything about invasion of any sorts. And migrations have always happened between various civilizations throughout human history. So what's the big deal in it? After all, even native person would have eventually come from Africa. It's just a matter of who came earlier.
www.thehindu.com/sci-tech/science/how-genetics-is-settling-the-aryan-migration-debate/article19090301.ece
Ajeet Albert when a new population migrates into an area using up the resources of the native population there is bound to be conflict and violence which is even seen today.
@@trueorient1544 conflict exists on a large spectrum. It is not the same as invasion.
More recent genetic studies actually show that the steppe pastoralists actually half their genes came from the west of turkey and their genes still exist in the people of Armenia - they brought their language to the steppe and the animals domesticated in the Middle East and moved into the steppe and mixed with the hunter gatherers rather than displacing them, and their culture however dominated and language and they as a 50 50 mix of the people they mixed with invented the wheel on ox drawn carriages and farmed horses - but may have used them also to pull the carriages that were used for migration - the theory that they fully domesticated the horse however is that the full domestication of horses may have actually happened closer to China but later on the steppe people who then rolled across
Europe in many placing replacing the people who had earlier come form western Turkey in other places mixing with them, in a reverse flow back to the steppe those people invented the chariot in southern russia near the kazahkstan border and then horse were domesticate much farther east in northwestern china and that full domestication then spread to the steppe and to the rest of china, the chariot also traversing cultures throughout the Middle East Egypt and china as well. That is what more recent archaeology combined with genetic studies have found - that the Middle East is still the ultimate birthplace of language and culture now in europe and then also brought the wheel and culture to India but again did not displace the peple there but only 20 percent of so of their grenes but the steppe culture and language came in but did not replace the people, but their culture and language while non indo European languages were also not completely erased as happened in europe where at first the original languages of the hunter gatherers were wiped out by the first wave of migration from western turkey and the hunter gatherers who had blue eyes and dark skin, were largely displaced also but survived the genes for whiteness displacing the previous dark skin genes because of a poor agricultural diet where white skin became a huge nutrition advantage but the blue eyes of the orignal hunter gatherers whose culture and language was largely erased their color changed but the blue eyes remained.
awesome!!!
I am quite surprised that some Sanatanis (by name) tell this as the map of vikramaditya Empire...But here its the geographical map of aryavart....Who to believe lol😂
The Subcontinent remained blocked from view for most of the video! I feel short shrift was given to eastern India - provenance of shouldered hand axes can be traced from Khmer areas in SE Asia through NE India, Jharkhand- Orissa tribal and megalithic cultures to further south. The rice cultures should be studied better maybe. Maybe we should look East and consult SE Asian paleontologists and geneticists for such materials.
You are correct. Rice is native to Southeast Asia. Trades between Khmer Kingdoms and South Asian Kingdoms can confirm this. Most western research will say Rice is from somewhere in China but it is not true. The Chinese eat mullets and only the rich can pay for rice. Why is that? Because it is imported from Khmer Kingdoms.
This video is five years old but Rakhigarhi excavations and their results came much earlier.
In that study,they said that there is proof of agriculture starting and evolving in the pre Harappa India,idependantly.
Here professor is saying that farmers migrated with wheat in to India.
What or who is right?
"Aryan" are descended from Albino "Dravidian" in north India.
No
What
So the Indus valley people are Iranian farmers not Dravidian.
Latest DNA study of 4500yrs old Rakhigarhi sample show that IVC DNA are mostly similar to modern Indians. So Indians may have steppe blood but only in different ratio, be it Indo Aryan or Dravidian speaking community.
The same study also show that IVC and Iranian at the time are different. Please don't trust Vasant Shinde, his interview totally contradict the paper and reject Aryan migration theory, even though he has his name in the research paper.
Try search for David Reich opinion on the study, he is one of the author of the paper.
At the beginning of the video her body is blocking the continent from which all humans originated. You must not be ashamed of your origin.
Cuthbert Jolly
😂😂😂
Yes we are all fr same origin millions of years of evolution from a single source
What??
The guy spoiled this interview and the interview before with the author
Now we got the results of DNA study of skeleton of IVC
Rakhigadi proves AIT/AMT
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@@user-ez4cp2vh5ssouth Indian tribal group population in the kerala and Tamil Nadu in areas of Nilgiri mountains have similarities to Rakhigarhi Male skeleton DNA .
What Rakhigari male?
It was a female skeleton high on Iranian Neolithic 😑
South Indians are high on AASI
More than Excellent speech and description!
I want to know that Elam empire(Old Persian) was Dravidian...????
they may have come from there but also note todays persians are not the same persians of the past
same way todays jews are not the jews of the past
todays english are not the natives of england of the past
todays pakistanis are not the same people of the past
people got mixed or wiped out
cannot be. the language of the dravidians has nothing to do with persian language. they dont even resemble in appearance or culture. nothing is in common between persian and dravidian.
@Sunil Bhardwaj nope, david was not a persian king but a jewish one and in hebrew the name is dawid, there was no r there. jews and tamils have nothing in common. also i have lot of irani friends and they have no issue pronouncing M and many have their names as Moiz, Mahmud, Muhammad, Mobeen, Mumtaz etc... your theories are new...
Similarities between Elam language and dravidan language is only 15%, Elam language is more semantic language than dravidan. Dravidan language is more indigenous to Indian subcontinent