You're absolutely right. I do make fun of how they're portrayed here, but they're a serious villain group for the X-Men for quite some time after this, because of this story.
I'm 45 now and I still remember reading those as a kid. The introduction to the marauders in the sewers, killing that invincible fat guy... it was a horror show and let us know shit wss about to get real. Nightcrawler almost dying,Colussus snapping that heavy metal fans neck...so damn good storytelling.
It isn't that comics lacked ethical messaging...today it's forced down your throat. It's an overcorrection of representation. Media went from no representation to every character and story has send "the message". It feels like good story telling is an afterthought.
This was a great event!! The Marauders were a serious threat. This event also left lasting impressions on the X-Universe: a new X-Men line up, the 3 injured members later joined Excalibur, Angel turning into Archangel, the 1st Wolverine vs Sabertooth, etc.
Well of course we haven't seen prism he refracts light that's why we can't see him! Look there's only so many ways I can make a invisibility joke in this series is give me some credit here! Still less traumatizing than modern school life! Also these kids have superpowers I think they have a bit more of a history of being able to handle a bit of this although they'll probably still need therapy! They can book the session with doc Simpson, I'm sure he'll have plenty of experience and giving war trauma therapy to people that really need it who have psychological issues! [you know it's sad when the only way how this is not topical modernly is that things are worse! Back in my day when we went to school and we had a bully we only had the settled things in the playground with our fisticuffs, now kids show up with their boy armor, illegal steroids, and enough stuff to make a Armory brush! And I'm not even that old I actually remember the story of Columbine]
Wow man...everything about this comment from the campy dad joke at the beginning to your central point--even its length--feels very much like the kind of comment that I have a tendency to leave when I feel the need to speak up for one reason or another. And I can't even tell you how nice it is to know that I'm not literally the ONLY person using this platform who does that!
11:30 Considering what Colossus goes through after this, it seems clear that this event had an impact on him psychologically even if the team doesn't acknowledge that it happened.
I was just a few years into ready X-Men when this crossover started and I remember being devastated because it took Kitty, Nightcrawler and Colossus off the team, plus what happened with the Morlocks was very distressing. It was not bloody but the whole event was very violent.
Read the entire X-Men run at various libraries almost ten years ago but had to stop around 2016 because all the tbp they had back then only went to the mid 80's, I'm currently getting all the 80's masterworks and omnibus and needed to recap the mutant massacre while I get started on fall of the mutants and this really helped.
A few years ago I started reading all of the uncanny X-Men comments starting from giant X-Men. I made it through the fall of mutants and the mutant massacre. Then I stopped and took a break. That was back in 2017-2018….i’m now trying to pick up where I left off reading X-Men and X Factor. These videos really help get me back to where I left off at. Videos are a really good refresher into the X-Men. Thank you!!!
They put Gambit on the cover even though he doesn't even appear in the crossover. And his involvement in the massacre was only found out much much later.
I thought that was funny. Sinister is also on the cover even though he doesn't actually appear in the story (other than by name). Based on the cover, I thought the collection would also include the comics that showed Gambits connection to the Massacre, but it didn't. Readers who didn't know the future stories would probably be super confused by the cover.
You have the perfect voice and energy for this, but can you review the story in order so it can kind of tell a story for people who haven't read it? I'm not joking or exaggerating when I say you could be Comicstorian level and fill the gigantic void he left when he passed away if you market yourself right. 29:19
I appreciate your faith in me, but did I not tell the story in order? I tried to break it up to how it flowed in the various titles, to untangle the narrative that often looped back over itself in the individual issues so that it would be possible to follow along with the actual timeline of events, but maybe I messed that up.
@CaptainAway It could have been how the comics were written and released. Trust me, though, bro, you have talent; I have an ear for it. Most of the comic channels would give away all of their subscribers to have your voice and delivery. Most people want as much of the comic read to them as possible without copyright issues, and you can look at the most popular channels for proof that this is what people want. I love comics, but I'd rather be told the story as a story than read it myself, and numbers don't lie. I have a Double Bachelor of Science in Sound Engineering and Entertainment Business. If you market yourself right or partner with someone to do the marketing correctly while you do the content, you can't lose. You have big potential ahead of you and the time to jump in is now, because of the gaping hole Comicstorian left.
Well comparing one group to what happened to black people isn't really woke. People tend to forget X-Men isnt about just humans vs mutant but also mutant vs human. The whole original series was based on evil mutants trying to take over the world because they seen themselves as homo-superior. As much as people say X-Men was always woke, it really wasn't because there really wasn't any minority group just getting attacked because of being minorities. Because as much as one side hated the other based on being different, the mutant side hates the other because they themselves as being genetically more advanced than the other.
I'm not a conservative but I think comparing them to X-Men villains is a bit lacking in nuance to say the least. Most modern conservatives within the West are far more tolerant than virtually anyone outside of the West who resides within a relatively homogeneous nation or area. This trope where Donald Trump supporters (and I'm not one) are regularly implied (particularly by Marvel comicbook fans on TH-cam) to be reality's stand in for the Friends of Humanity or something along those lines is hopelessly naive. The world is a nasty place full of division. If you want to compare a real human group to comic book villainy, there are far more appropriate examples out there to cite than other goofy conservatives who simply want basic immigration laws enforced or something like that. I'm sure some of the creators of these comics would agree with the comparison that's often made and see MAGA types as being analogous to something like the villainy of X-Men, but I think in going there they're only revealing how provincial and naive they are as well.
The Marauders were no joke. I read these as they came out back in the day.
You're absolutely right. I do make fun of how they're portrayed here, but they're a serious villain group for the X-Men for quite some time after this, because of this story.
I'm 45 now and I still remember reading those as a kid. The introduction to the marauders in the sewers, killing that invincible fat guy... it was a horror show and let us know shit wss about to get real. Nightcrawler almost dying,Colussus snapping that heavy metal fans neck...so damn good storytelling.
Thank you! Been looking forward to more videos about 80s xmen :)
It isn't that comics lacked ethical messaging...today it's forced down your throat. It's an overcorrection of representation. Media went from no representation to every character and story has send "the message". It feels like good story telling is an afterthought.
This was a great event!! The Marauders were a serious threat. This event also left lasting impressions on the X-Universe: a new X-Men line up, the 3 injured members later joined Excalibur, Angel turning into Archangel, the 1st Wolverine vs Sabertooth, etc.
Well of course we haven't seen prism he refracts light that's why we can't see him! Look there's only so many ways I can make a invisibility joke in this series is give me some credit here! Still less traumatizing than modern school life! Also these kids have superpowers I think they have a bit more of a history of being able to handle a bit of this although they'll probably still need therapy! They can book the session with doc Simpson, I'm sure he'll have plenty of experience and giving war trauma therapy to people that really need it who have psychological issues! [you know it's sad when the only way how this is not topical modernly is that things are worse! Back in my day when we went to school and we had a bully we only had the settled things in the playground with our fisticuffs, now kids show up with their boy armor, illegal steroids, and enough stuff to make a Armory brush! And I'm not even that old I actually remember the story of Columbine]
Wow man...everything about this comment from the campy dad joke at the beginning to your central point--even its length--feels very much like the kind of comment that I have a tendency to leave when I feel the need to speak up for one reason or another. And I can't even tell you how nice it is to know that I'm not literally the ONLY person using this platform who does that!
11:30 Considering what Colossus goes through after this, it seems clear that this event had an impact on him psychologically even if the team doesn't acknowledge that it happened.
I was just a few years into ready X-Men when this crossover started and I remember being devastated because it took Kitty, Nightcrawler and Colossus off the team, plus what happened with the Morlocks was very distressing. It was not bloody but the whole event was very violent.
Secret Wars 2 Electric Boogaloo
Read the entire X-Men run at various libraries almost ten years ago but had to stop around 2016 because all the tbp they had back then only went to the mid 80's, I'm currently getting all the 80's masterworks and omnibus and needed to recap the mutant massacre while I get started on fall of the mutants and this really helped.
this is so good!!!!!
A few years ago I started reading all of the uncanny X-Men comments starting from giant X-Men. I made it through the fall of mutants and the mutant massacre. Then I stopped and took a break. That was back in 2017-2018….i’m now trying to pick up where I left off reading X-Men and X Factor. These videos really help get me back to where I left off at. Videos are a really good refresher into the X-Men. Thank you!!!
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it! The X-Men comics have been some of my favorites to cover and I'm so excited to see so many people enjoying them now!
They put Gambit on the cover even though he doesn't even appear in the crossover. And his involvement in the massacre was only found out much much later.
I thought that was funny. Sinister is also on the cover even though he doesn't actually appear in the story (other than by name). Based on the cover, I thought the collection would also include the comics that showed Gambits connection to the Massacre, but it didn't. Readers who didn't know the future stories would probably be super confused by the cover.
21:06 Anyone who can tear a star apart is someone to be respected or feared IMO.
Make mine Marauders murdering mutant Morlocks in March from Marvel without Magneto (for some reason!).
You crack me up bro
Please do DC bloodlines from the 90s with alien foes
Mutant Marauders murdering Morlocks making Marvel millions.
You have the perfect voice and energy for this, but can you review the story in order so it can kind of tell a story for people who haven't read it? I'm not joking or exaggerating when I say you could be Comicstorian level and fill the gigantic void he left when he passed away if you market yourself right. 29:19
I appreciate your faith in me, but did I not tell the story in order? I tried to break it up to how it flowed in the various titles, to untangle the narrative that often looped back over itself in the individual issues so that it would be possible to follow along with the actual timeline of events, but maybe I messed that up.
@CaptainAway It could have been how the comics were written and released. Trust me, though, bro, you have talent; I have an ear for it. Most of the comic channels would give away all of their subscribers to have your voice and delivery. Most people want as much of the comic read to them as possible without copyright issues, and you can look at the most popular channels for proof that this is what people want. I love comics, but I'd rather be told the story as a story than read it myself, and numbers don't lie. I have a Double Bachelor of Science in Sound Engineering and Entertainment Business. If you market yourself right or partner with someone to do the marketing correctly while you do the content, you can't lose. You have big potential ahead of you and the time to jump in is now, because of the gaping hole Comicstorian left.
Well comparing one group to what happened to black people isn't really woke. People tend to forget X-Men isnt about just humans vs mutant but also mutant vs human. The whole original series was based on evil mutants trying to take over the world because they seen themselves as homo-superior. As much as people say X-Men was always woke, it really wasn't because there really wasn't any minority group just getting attacked because of being minorities. Because as much as one side hated the other based on being different, the mutant side hates the other because they themselves as being genetically more advanced than the other.
I'm not a conservative but I think comparing them to X-Men villains is a bit lacking in nuance to say the least.
Most modern conservatives within the West are far more tolerant than virtually anyone outside of the West who resides within a relatively homogeneous nation or area. This trope where Donald Trump supporters (and I'm not one) are regularly implied (particularly by Marvel comicbook fans on TH-cam) to be reality's stand in for the Friends of Humanity or something along those lines is hopelessly naive. The world is a nasty place full of division. If you want to compare a real human group to comic book villainy, there are far more appropriate examples out there to cite than other goofy conservatives who simply want basic immigration laws enforced or something like that.
I'm sure some of the creators of these comics would agree with the comparison that's often made and see MAGA types as being analogous to something like the villainy of X-Men, but I think in going there they're only revealing how provincial and naive they are as well.