+Gothmog Bahamut And the Douwd! And the ascendant Organians. And the prophets. And Caretaker's Speieces. And the other Q. And a weapon that can erase the target from time.
Hi folks, can I just point one thing out, which may have been lost in the general STvsSW debate. I LOVE Star Trek (especially TNG) I grew up watching it and quoting it and LOVING it. Fact is, I ALSO love Star Wars, and have come back to that later in life. While it is "fun" to compare the two techs, I do find it a bit pointless to get so entrenched in one side or the other, that we just end up throwing pointless insults at what we don't like! As I said, I LOVE both...I think the Romulan D'deridex class warbird, and Klingon Vor'cha Attack cruiser are among the coolest ships ever designed, but I also love the design of the class Imperial Star Destroyer. I love seeing these ships in action, but all this talk of which is more powerful etc, etc seems a tab pointless. I tend to prefer to think of them as being equivalent, within their own Universes.
Actually, the Death Star fires a concentrated beam of antimatter. if it were a laser, the eight or so beams that fire around the main laser would not simply stop, they would pass through one-another as light tends to do. This is because light has no mass, but antimatter does, not to mention that a laser would melt the inside of the firing chamber for the Death Star cannon because a planetary-level laser would require about 224,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules of energy to destroy a planet, generating more heat than the sun, which actually only gives off about 3.8 x 10^26 watts of energy. Enough antimatter to destroy a planet the size of Alderaan, or even the Earth, would be about 1.24 billion tonnes of antimatter. Not saying who would win, just setting some facts straight.
I'd imagine the enterprise could deflect a blast from their power source. The enterprise is fueled by antimatter, which is also used in the creation of warp bubbles when they go to warp speed. So it's entirely possible a beam of antimatter could be easily blocked.
It was stated in ANH that the death star had a magnetic field around it and turbolasers still worked. If you think enterprise can put more energy into a magnetic field than the death star id laugh in your face.
Lasers don't even hurt Star Trek ships Star Trek ships AKA the awesomest fleet ever developed the phazers are highly concentrated plasma mixed with a laser like form and using energy to penetrate and destroy large parts of a battle ship or any ship for that matter
Will Brack Plasma weaponry is entirely different from the phasers that the Federation uses. If they were plasma, hand phasers (scaled-down versions of ship phasers) wouldn't have a stun setting. Instead, they'd just burn your ass.
Oh please Star Trek has its own share of made up claptrap and technobabble though in fairness Doctor Who does have the line, "Reverse the polarity of the neutron flow." That is why it is called science fiction.
Filmpal We all know physical attacks are different than sci-fi ray guns. Borg can be killed off easy with those too as evidenced by warfs blade and data's melee attacks nothing stops an imperial walker from simply stepping on a borg drone and killing it. Rebel fighters did not destroy the at-at until they hit the less armored area behind the neck and they were not even shielded either. "Turbolasers are slow moving projectiles that do little damage." -point defense from star destroyers were vaporizing 30m solid iron rocks and jangos mines destroyed asteroids in a multi-kilometer radius. The episode 2 ICS states the heaviest turbolasers from an acclimator can unleash 200 gigatons while we can do the math for 1.5kg of anti-matter. The numbers are not even close. You can get 65 megatons out of the photon with no dystrophy. We can match that with our nukes today. Riker said it would take all their torpedoes to destroy a 5km hollow asteroid while jango would do it with one charge. Photon torpedoes are limited by anti-matter. Starwars has anti-matter available to them to because some hyperdrives use anti-matter pods. They however don't bother with it in weapons because it is not powerful enough. Starwars has better things available to them like hypermatter. Star destroyer reactors can rival the output of stars( something which star trek needs a dyson sphere for because their reactors suck and blow up even from a non direct hit. Lukes torpedo needed a direct hit to the reactor. For that it needed to go all the way down the exaust port . Trek torpedoes would never get through it because the port was raysheilded underneath a neutronium tower and trek torpedoes are shielded as well. You still have no proof trek sensors are better, all you have proven is the effectiveness of the falcons illegal jammers. Star trek ships cannot traverse the galaxy as fast as star wars ones so your point is automatically invalid. The empire was even able to track the rebels before the battle of endor ( that's how they knew to be on the opposite side of the planet when the rebels came out of hyperspace). We also saw leia tracking the fleet in the shield bunker. I have also already proven trek is succeptable to jamming too. Using the millennium falcon as an example is a bad one and you are a moron for doing it, the falcon is so fast it would be out of trek sensor range in less than a second if it went into hyperspace. Q were killed by starbusting weapons and the ones are universe busters, you lose. Even a powerful force user can make Q kill themselves. "Gramp is not an idiot since he proved your a liar. "Gramp's Quote: Star Wars shields (as I have found thru researching quantum physics) absolutely DO HAVE FREQUENCY, as dictated as such: "Wave-particle duality is a theory that proposes that every elementary particle exhibits the properties of not only particles, but also waves." Waves are that which occur in repetitions (measured as 'frequency) that all energy is carried in." I've already defeated gramps ford too. Do things in other universes (like hyperspace) have a frequency too? Star wars shields are hyperwaves so they might not have a frequency or at least one that can be matched in this universe or the startrek one with subspace tech for that matter. You are an idiot!! In one post you say they are projectiles and in the next you turncoat like a true troll and say they are lasers. Can you make up your mind? When we look at star wars weapons it becomes ridiculously clear that they act nothing like lasers. Just like it is ridiculously clear that hyperspace is faster than the speed of light. In star trek a single torpedo from a mining vessel was enough to open up a section of ship and kill numerous redshirts and the worst part about it was that the shields were still up while the separatists opened holes in their shield to return fire. We are also talking about advanced hull matierials that can survive flying through the corona of a star. Star trek needs metaphasic shields just to enter the corona of a star while a jedi transport flew through it with ALL SYSTEMS DOWN. It is also important to note that republic forces were not trying to destroy the invisible hand because the chancellor was on board. "SW is set in a galaxy far, far away, so the galaxy would have been smaller so the area would be smaller." -what does that have to do with anything? There are many different galaxies of varying sizes, it could be much bigger.
There is someone FINALLY out there who actually likes Star Trek. I ask people at my school if they like Star Trek.They say Star Trek is stupid, although they haven't seen Star Trek at all whatsoever.
I know we have to spread the word about how ST is better than SW. My quotes: First, Firepower. ST: Borg use a shield neutraliser to wipe out any shields, then use a cutting beam to smash anything in the vicinity. Don't believe me? check out the Saratoga and the Melbourne. SW: SW standard weapons can't effect a ship with navigational shields, let alone main and secondary. No one is dumb enough to go into the superlaser. The particle beams can be redirected with polaron waves. Besides, who needs particle beams when ST has antiproton which are 10x better than proton and have more of a chance to hit a critical system. Second, Durability. ST: Can't be effected with lasers, superlaser is way too slow, and particle beams only scratch a Galaxy Class with main shields. It would take exactly 6079 shots to disable the main shields, then secondary, then navigational and then auxiliary shields. SW: The X wings are way, way smaller than a bird of prey. Birds of prey are the smallest ships in ST exception shuttles. Proton vs Photon? Protons would destroy the core, Photons would destroy the entire Death Star. The Imperial Fighters are even weaker than the X wings. The Imperial and Executors would be dealt by the Borg. (see Borg strategies at firepower section 1) Plus. The Executor missed 19 out of 23 shots when disabling an ill equipped rebel cruiser. The ST ships have much more accuracy. Third, Number. SW: Size doesn't matter when they can be 1shotted by Polaron, antiproton, phaser and disruptor. Dood, you missed the Voth. A SW fan quickly points out that the fighters can destroy asteroids. True, but ST can destroy the asteroid field much more quickly due to the mass amount of range difference. ST: The ST ships have more combat experience, thus can contain a problem (like that would happen) more quickly. It's right that SW has more ships but that doesn't matter when you can 1shot them and they have to shoot you 6000 times to disable shields. Am I finished? If you are comparing the Borg and the Federation together, it's not fair to exclude the 589 thousand other races since the Borg and the Federation are together. Some of which are like Q, and could destroy anything with thought. And since SW is a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, The Universe would have been smaller, a lot smaller. That means every ship made by SW would be 7x smaller than they're supposed to be. Fourth: Transportation: This matter isn't that serious. SW: Only can use shuttles. ST: Can use shuttles, and transporter tech. It's quite bad but it works. That's like 1.5 v 1. 1.5 wins. Its clear that ST is much, much more advanced. I'd like to see what the SW fans can say.
FilmPal Here some numbers proving how star wars fighters are superior to star trek capital ships : Star Wars: Slave-1 Main guns: 64000 GW (2 kilotons per shot, 480 rpm firing rate onscreen in AOTC for time-averaged power output rather than peak output) Star Trek: Enterprise-D Main phasers: 3.6 GW Star Wars: Slave-1 Missiles: 190 megatons (tail-launched missiles; seismic charge mines are roughly 12000 megatons) Star Trek: Enterprise-D Photon torpedoes: 64 megatons max theoretical Star Wars: Slave-1 Sublight acceleration: 2500G Star Trek: Enterprise-D Sublight acceleration: 1000G Star Wars: Slave-1 Operational range: not stated (however, Obi-Wan's starfighter has an operational range of 150,000 light-years, and is probably similar). Star Trek: Enterprise-D Operational range: 2750 light-years Star Wars: Slave-1 Shield heat dissipation: not stated (however, Amidala's personal yacht has shield dissipation of 2 billion GW peak, and is probably similar) Star Trek: Enterprise-D Shield heat dissipation: 3311 GW peak Star Wars: Slave-1 Reactor power: not stated (however, Amidala's personal yacht has power output of 7 billion GW max, and is probably similar) Star Trek: Enterprise-D Reactor power: ~4 billion GW at max warp 9.6 Star Wars: Slave-1 Max hyperspace speed: not stated (however, same-day flight from core to galactic outer-rim systems requires speeds in excess of 10 million c) Star Trek: Enterprise-D Max warp speed: ~2000c (warp 9.6) star trek capital ships would not even be capable of fighting star wars fighters since these fighters are more much powerful than any federation ships. star trek ships = sad joke. And star trek ships are primitive since they can be destroyed by cheese (voyager learning curve). Borg use lasers and lasers destroy star trek ships so you lost all your point long time ago. Picard and Riker are just sad liars just like you. Star wars ships can be fitted with proton beam cannon, proton/plasma torps, plasma cannons, mass drivers so all of your points are irrelevance anyway low life troll.
Since the genesis device reacts with surrounding matter such as a nebula or planet. we do not know how it would work on shielded targets if at all. starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Planetary_shield
Karly Johnston Forgive me but that is the DUMBEST comment I've read yet. There is a major difference between "tunnelling a hole" in a planet, and blasting it to obvion with a single pulse! The Death Star Superlaser is many, MANY orders of magnitude more powerful than ANYTHING the Federation has, and would have atomised the Enterprise D; shields or not! I'd go so far as to say that Spacedock would be blown to kingdom come by the Death Star's primary weapon, so there's no way a single ship would survive the blaster. Oh, and bear in mind that I'm a HUGE Star Trek fan also, so I'm happy to big up what the Enterprise D can REALLY do, but it CANNOT fight an entire Moon Sized space station!
Karly Johnston Phasers are inconsistent and use chain reactions to enhance their damage on planetary targets. It only took 400GW to bring down the shields of enterprise D. That's nowhere near planet busting power. It should be quite clear that enterprise D cant produce enough energy to bust a planet just by realizing they have an anti-matter reactor. They don't even usually use phasers to destroy starships that much in trek because the mechanism phasers use can be countered by hull materials. One material in T.O.S. the doomsday machine was completely immune to their effects.
Phasers don't have enough destructive energy to mass scatter a planet at hypersonic speeds like the death star did and it took the romulan drill minutes to drill through the Vulcan crust. That weapon was from the 24th century. Aside from that phasers work well on ordinary rocks. However, Dura-armor contains neutronium. Star wars has been space fairing for 25,000 years. 150 years behind TNG my ass. Remember the government petition to build the death star? Now ask yourself if we could possibly get that done today or if TNG could even build a mobile moon sized space station. (lol DS9 is nowhere near that).
And... while the Federation and the Galactic Empire are fighting... The One True God Emperor of Mankind is back on earth... Preforming Exterminatus on the Federation HQ. His legions of Space Marines have already clensed the galaxy of the Klingons and the Romulans, removing those Xeno threats. They allowed the Feringi to live for comedic relief (and their females don't wear clothes).
nate556 My comment had nothing to do with caring, and everything to do with telling you how stupid it is in hopes you'll get the hint and not continue trolling pages that aren't even hammer-related. Grow up abd get a clue already.
nate556 "You cared enough to comment on it." Wrong. I cared enough to do my part in handling trolls here, and you WISH you were important enough for someone to care what you say. "You're the one wasting your time on my stupid post." You got the stupid part right. "You're the one bla bla bla" You're the one who came here to get a reaction that you can try to turn into a pissing contest at a place that isn't Hammer related. How's that working out for you? Having been called perfectly on your little plan to troll (and insult) I'd say you lose. I knew what you were up to, and so far, I've just been "feeding the troll..." "For a trekkie, you're an asshole." Thanks. That's a huge compliment from someone like you -an immature kid getting off trying to instigating arguments in hopes of one day becoming an asshole.. Too bad you're not very good at it; See, I' immediately caught on to what you tried, so all this continuation of comment now is just me feeding the troll, and making you my bitch. I do hope you realize you were played from the get-go.. thanks for being my little practice target. You performed admirably. Such a good little bitch. You didn't even need me to argue Warhammer to get you wet, first.
I honestly don't think you know what trolling is. Answer me this, mister Troll-bait, what was insulting about my original comment? You got upset over it, and now you're pretending to be some arrogant powerhorse. "I had all the cards, because I'm the best, nyaaa!" If you think my original post was trying to instigate an argument, you're wrong. The funny thing is though, if that's what I was really doing, you fell for it. Hook, line, and sinker. Good job making yourself look like a condescending asshole. See, in your own ignorance, you claim that my post was off topic. You're wrong about that. I wasn't even looking for a pissing contest, I was just being silly. You're the one who approached my silly first post, then proceeded to start insulting me. You are the one with a chip on his shoulder trying to start internet pissing contests. I've looked over some of your recent comments, and I see you doing this a lot. You make a lot of personal insults of the people you argue with on these Star Trek vs. Star Wars videos. You're the troll, and I can bring up as many other fictional universes I want to. Because the Valheru could also wipe it's ass with both Star Trek and Star War's fleets of starships... they could probably even lay waste to the massive Imperial hive ships in the 40K universe too. I'm not foolish enough to expect you to make an informed posted about any of it though, since information is not in your prime directive. You should pay more attention to Star Trek, and you might learn a thing or two about how to behave in a public forum.
''Sorry guys, bad engineering on the dark side. Next time you build better ships.'' star trek engineering is for morons. Ladies and gentlemen, Star Trek engineering is idiot engineering. If real-life technology were routinely designed this way, we would be extinct. The writers of Star Trek may wax poetic about their renowned chief engineers, but the way the ship is designed, their engineers must be morons. Worst of all, this flying disaster-in-waiting is supposedly the product of the finest engineers the Federation has to offer. Star Trek's insults to the engineering profession don't stop with their insane ignorance of basic safety principles. Here are a two more recurring Star Trek technology clichés which have irritated me over the years: They never use any low-technology solutions; can you imagine seeing a bucket or a wrench in Star Trek? When their kids go to the beach, they probably take a portable forcefield generator instead of a bucket and shovel. But in real life, engineers don't always use the most advanced technology. In fact, the most elegant engineering solutions are those that require the least technology, not the most. A good example is a machine gun; it uses a simple, elegant and robust mechanical system to eject each cartridge and load the next, based on gas pressure, springs, rods, and other low-tech principles. The simpler, the better. With modern technology, we could design a machine gun that uses miniaturized robotics instead, but why? The resulting weapon would be far more expensive, and far less reliable. It would require a power source, and software. It would be far more difficult to maintain. But in the world of Star Trek, that's exactly how they would do it. In a world where medical isolation bays use forcefields instead of walls, and where dumbbells have touch-screen controls on them, even the dumbest application of excessive technology is not only approved; it's mandatory. They never follow any sort of prudent testing procedures. One of the best examples of this reckless stupidity was seen in "New Ground", where a "soliton wave" propulsion idea was tested for the first time. Did they test on a miniature test rig? No, they tested it on a full-sized ship. Did they test it in a vacuum chamber? No, they tested it in open space. Did they point it at an uninhabited moon? Of course not. They launched it directly toward a populated colony! The lead researcher explained that "if our theories are correct, the wave will envelop the ship and push it into warp," but if he had done proper testing beforehand, he would have had something to go on besides his "theories", and he wouldn't have been at a loss for words when everything went wrong and the Enterprise had to save the day. This is a fine example of the way that Star Trek insults the engineering profession; in their world, they go straight from pure theory to full-scale implementation with civilian lives at risk: something that no engineer would ever do. And this is just one example; how many times throughout Star Trek has some totally new idea been tried out by using the entire ship as the test rig? This is insane; would an aerospace engineer try out new theories on fully loaded passenger jets? They routinely make the same mistake over and over again. In real life, when a failure occurs, a quality-certified engineering operation will immediately perform what is known as a FEMA, or Failure Effects Mode Analysis. The purpose of a FEMA is to figure out what caused the failure, what resulted from the failure, and what changes could be made to prevent this sort of failure from re-occurring. But in Star Trek, the same systems can fail over and over again (particularly when it comes to holodecks and warp core ejectors) and they seem to take no action whatsoever! Imagine if no corrective action was taken after a certain 92 cent O-ring destroyed the Space Shuttle.
Agent1W Actually I quoted this from a fan site. A guy called Micheal Wong if a remember well. He did a master degree in mechanical engineering so he knows his shit better than 99,99 % people on TH-cam. Thats why I love quoting him so much. To give that guy the credit he deserves : www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tech/ But yeah knock yourself out. ^^
Well, it is funny, but if we take so seriously the footage shot during SW and ST series, then any kind of an SW ship could hardly do any damage to any fed vessel, even a shuttle. Here a lot of SW fans are deducing the power limits of their weaponry from things like vaporizing asteroids, which has high power requirements. On the other hand in the episode Death Wish of ST Voyager, Q takes back Voyager to the exact time of the BIG BANG, and the ship lasts for more than twenty seconds without the help of Q. As long as there are no places for 3D existences such as outside of our Universe, that means that the ship's shield system could absorb most of the energy the Early Universe emitted, which roughly means 75% of all existing matter and energy in our Universe, and not for a short fire from a death star, almost haf a minute. That means, that even a planet killer is a tiny little thing compared to this defensive power, and raise the question, how does a planet killer can have more energy than the Universe itself. It is fuelling from our Universe right, even if we consider the fanciest propelling agent, it cant have more energy than what it is feeding from. Of course, this logic is ridiculous, such as the logic which derives power outputs, from an action SCI-FI flick. Lets say that at the end of the day, it is more believable, that a Death Star like stuff could be easily destroyed by the Feds, if it is done, by a low end X wing. Maybe they would lose one or two cruisers. Sorry guys, bad engineering on the dark side. Next time you build better ships.
Star Trek franchise have a lot of hot beauties never seen in Star Wars Saga.... Marina Sirtis as Deanna Troi, Sherry Jackson as Android Andrea, Nichelle Nichols and Zoey Saldana as Uhura, Gates McFadden as Beverly Crusher, Denise Crosby as Tasha Yar, Michelle Forbes as Ro Laren, Diana Muldaur as Katherine Pulaski, Nana Visitor as Kira Nerys, Terry Farrell as Jadzia Dax, Nicole de Boer as Ezri Dax, Jeri Ryan as 7 of 9, Jolene King Blalock as T'Pol, Beth Toussaint as Ishara Yar, Famke Jensen as Kamala, Ashley Judd as Robin Lefler, Kirstie Alley as Saavik, Kate Mulgrew as Cpt. Janeway, Sofia Boutella as Jaylah, Alice Eve as Carol Marcus, Sonequa Martin Green as Michael Burnan, Michelle Yeho as Filippa Georgiu, Tasia Valenza as T'Shanik, Darlena Tejeiro as S.T. 2009 Flight Officer, etc, etc, etc..... In comparation Star Wars girls are Orcs. By other side Star Trek is more clean Hygienic and ordered environment. Star Wars people seem like living in a garbage dump......
''On the other hand in the episode Death Wish of ST Voyager, Q takes back Voyager to the exact time of the BIG BANG, and the ship lasts for more than twenty seconds without the help of Q. '' FLASE !!! Q was helping them since we konw star trek shields fail at a low 400 GW according to Worf himself. Your whole argument is now invalid.
You don't know what the voltage was so you can't say anything. It lasted more than 20 seconds without the help of Q. The big bang was enourmous but it certainly didn't contain 400GW. If you want a prediction just blow a hole in the ground worth 400 GW. Worf is a liar. Your whole argument is now invalid. No need to thank me, it was a great pleasure. Live long and prosper. =/\=
that enterprise wouldn't even get a chance to get a fight, it would just get destroyed before they can sey "hey whats that"?(turbolaser superbeam) annihilation towards the Enterprise
Stuart K. Seels depends on circumstance, for example the Death Star could destroy anything in the Federation's arsenal but the enterprise could maybe destroy a venator class republic star cruiser.
So many edits, voice-overs and errors. The Borg are far more formidable than any Star Wars 'master'. A farce of epic proportions. The Millennium Falcon was a busted up cargo ship, it could never win in a head-on battle against the Enterprise, not even remotely possible.
This isn't supposed to be a finished product ready for scrutiny, its an imaginative throw-together from existing footage. For a part-time hobby it gets the story told. I agree - anything small enough to fit into the cargo bay of the Enterprise would get dematerialized and the rest can try their luck with warp-speed torpedoes, not the 5,000km/s crap they're used to dealing with.
funny how a laser that can destroy a planet but not a ship, and where are the star destroyers to lay down millajoules of energy down on the "sheilds" that the milleanium falcon can beat
This was absolutely hilarious. Mocking the massive blast of the Death Star, Data laughing... *MUTE*, (Casually) 'shields up'..., The conundrum part listening to the comms, the Millenium Falcon having such a massive punch, and that final torpedo volley destroying them after so many hits failed to, everything was just f***ing hilarious!!! This is easily the best SW Vs ST video I've ever seen.
There's a difference between funny-stupid and just stupid-stupid. Monty Python and other absurdist comedy is funny stupid. The Enterprise shrugging off the Death Star laser without shields is just stupid-stupid. It's not humorous. Nor is the Millenium Falcon lasting more than a second against a Galaxy class starship.
Gabor Rajnai, I just rendered all of your points invalid. No need to thank me man. ^^ It was a pleasure. ''If Star Trek depicted a well-designed ship, the ship would never explode from a computer virus, power failures, or low-speed impact on a warp nacelle. Such problems might cause the reactor to shut down, or they might cause the antimatter pods to eject into space, or they might cause damage to systems which happen to be in the vicinity of the impact, but that's it. Can you imagine if a real-life aircraft carrier took a minor hit above the waterline and exploded as a result? Heads would roll. Real-life ships have indeed exploded from a critical hit (the most famous example being the HMS Hood in WW2), but only when it hits the magazine. No machinery hit has ever caused such a calamity.''
I just rendered all your points invalid. No need to thank me. It was a great pleasure. The problem is, SW doesn't have computer viruses. That point is irrelevant. Nice try. The only power failure ST gets that destroys the ship is warp core breach. I never heard of a suicide SW ship. Even if they were, the pilot controls are so screwed up they would just hit the saucer which wouldn't even destroy 1 room. Such problems don't cause the reactor to shut down, and the only need of ejecting antimatter pods into space is if you are in a black hole. And that won't happen. Nice try. They won't shut down since your weapons have no effect on ours. All my points are permenately gained, and all yours, are eliminated. Good game.
FilmPal Excuse fucking idiot but star trek ships can be destroyed by cheese according to voyager learning curve proving how primitive star trek ships truly are lol.
Star Trek CLEARLY > Star Wars Even the Death Star couldn't cause damage to the Enterprise... even with inertial dampeners released, the ship wasn't even vibrated
Because SW uses LASERS. Lasers can't penetrate ST shields. SW engineering is the most practically useless engineering there is if it can't take a normal 200GW of dmg.
In fact star trek ships are way inferior compared to star wars ships bacause star trek ships can be defeated using cheese according to voyager learning curve. So no need for weapons to destroy star trek ships. Here some numbers proving how star wars fighters are superior to star trek capital ships : Star Wars: Slave-1 Main guns: 64000 GW (2 kilotons per shot, 480 rpm firing rate onscreen in AOTC for time-averaged power output rather than peak output) Star Trek: Enterprise-D Main phasers: 3.6 GW Star Wars: Slave-1 Missiles: 190 megatons (tail-launched missiles; seismic charge mines are roughly 12000 megatons) Star Trek: Enterprise-D Photon torpedoes: 64 megatons max theoretical Star Wars: Slave-1 Sublight acceleration: 2500G Star Trek: Enterprise-D Sublight acceleration: 1000G Star Wars: Slave-1 Operational range: not stated (however, Obi-Wan's starfighter has an operational range of 150,000 light-years, and is probably similar). Star Trek: Enterprise-D Operational range: 2750 light-years Star Wars: Slave-1 Shield heat dissipation: not stated (however, Amidala's personal yacht has shield dissipation of 2 billion GW peak, and is probably similar) Star Trek: Enterprise-D Shield heat dissipation: 3311 GW peak Star Wars: Slave-1 Reactor power: not stated (however, Amidala's personal yacht has power output of 7 billion GW max, and is probably similar) Star Trek: Enterprise-D Reactor power: ~4 billion GW at max warp 9.6 Star Wars: Slave-1 Max hyperspace speed: not stated (however, same-day flight from core to galactic outer-rim systems requires speeds in excess of 10 million c) Star Trek: Enterprise-D Max warp speed: ~2000c (warp 9.6) star trek capital ships would not even be capable of fighting star wars fighters since these fighters are more much powerful than any federation ships. star trek ships = sad joke. And star trek ships are primitive since they can be destroyed by cheese (voyager learning curve). Borg use lasers and lasers destroy star trek ships. Picard and Riker are just sad liars. Star wars ships can be fitted with proton beam cannon, proton/plasma torps, plasma cannons, mass drivers.
Thierry Saint-Jour ST has more advanced sensors SW only has prototype cloaks ST everyone has cloaks SW will pale in comparison to the amount of races ST has. Altogether they would destroy the entire fleet of imperials. You want giant ships? Check out the Voth Dreadnought and the Voth Fortress. ST has photon torps which could rip any SW ship into shreds considering the DS was instakilled with a proton torp. SW weapons are inaccurate. ST weapons are always accurate. SW has bad range. ST could just sit at 50,000 km and fire a photon torpedo to obliterate the SW ships. ST Enterprise has rapid fire photons that would destroy the entire imperial fleet. SW ships are in a galaxy far far away and the universe would have been smaller so every SW ship would be minitature, therefore less able to damage or defend. The Prophets can't be killed and can destroy anything with thought. The Q, Ocampa, Prophets, and the entire Q Contiuum could instakill anything from SW. SW uses lasers. Lasers can't even penetrate navigational shields. The Borg could use a borg shield neutraliser and a cutting beam to devour any SW ship. SW armies are outdated - use an orbital strike (facepalm) Second round! The shields in SW are much less effective - When the republic ship went into firing position with the Seperatist ship in SWTCW the shields were on and the artillery destroyed the whole room. SW weapons, since miniature - have bad weapon power. Even if they weren't they would still be crap. SW sensors are like Advanced uayalisers - Unfortunately they do not exist. The sun crusher would be INSTAKILLED by the Undine Planet Destroyers (Way, way bigger than the DS) SW engineering is for morons. The armour is rubbish, the shields are paper and the weapons are rubbish, It's easy to land a critical hit, like you would need to, just fire a quantum/photon torpedo. This is proof SW has no chance against ST. I'd like to see what a SW fan can say legitimately. PS: Don't bother on the lasers, because any EU of SW isn't canon, and I won't bother looking at SD.net
FilmPal star trek engineering = shit Of course, this is just one of many near-disasters. If I had a dollar for every time the Enterprise nearly blew up, I'd be a rich man. Two of the most obvious problems are described in the dialogue above: emergency measures are unreliable, and the entire system, as conceptualized by the show's writers and tech advisors, is inherently unsafe. Not only do the fictional engineers of Star Trek ignore the sensible and time-tested engineering risk management principles of redundancy, diversity, isolation, and failure actuation, but whenever possible, they actually do the exact opposite! Consider: Instead of minimizing excess reactivity, they seem to be doing everything in their power to increase it. Evidence of the high excess reactivity of a warp core can be found every time one of 'em blows up. For example, in "Generations", they knew the reactor was going to blow five minutes before it actually did, and they couldn't do anything but evacuate. In "Disaster", we saw a similar scenario; the reactor was counting down to doomsday throughout the entire second half of the episode. The only way they could stop these catastrophes was to eject the entire warp core or restore the containment field. You would think that they could simply shut off the flow of antimatter into the chamber (or at the very least, redirect it out into space), but it appears that even if they do so, the warp core contains enough unreacted fuel at any time to destroy the entire ship. It's a textbook example of extreme excess reactivity. Instead of redundancy and diversity, they seem to have just one system for any given function. In "Contagion", they described exactly one emergency antimatter storage dump, whose failure caused the total destruction of the USS Yamato. In "The Naked Now", we found that the ship only has one central computer core, whose partial disassembly left the Enterprise helpless in the path of an oncoming chunk of iron. In several combat incidents, all of the weapons on the entire ship were disabled by a single hit. In "Generations", we found that they have only one warp core ejection system, and when it failed, the ship was doomed. They may occasionally speak of redundancy but they've given no evidence of it, so it seems apparent that the Enterprise lacks either redundancy or diversity (or both) in its critical systems. Instead of isolating critical systems from one another, they actually merge them as much as possible! All of the ship's systems share everything from physical enclosures to sensors and of course, a common centralized computer. That is why a virus was able to spread into every conceivable system on the entire ship after starting from just one point in "Contagion", rapidly affecting everything from doors to turbolifts, replicators, lighting, weapons, shields, communications, and of course, the warp core. Instead of envisioning multiple independent systems, some of which are isolated and some of which exchange data with one another, the writers chose to envision a single "Big Brother" computer which runs everything. It knows when you've been sleeping ... it knows when you're awake ... it knows when you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness' sake ... Instead of employing the "dead man's switch" principle, their entire design principle is to make the ship utterly dependent, minute by minute, second by second, on the continued operation of numerous active systems. Without the much-ballyhooed structural integrity field, the ship won't even hold together. Without various force fields and containment systems, the ship will explode in a fraction of a second. Even when they take a biohazard on board, they contain it exclusively with a forcefield, which means that the lives of the entire crew are dependent on the continued operation, millisecond by millisecond, of some forcefield generator. I know that bottles and walls may seem "primitive" to the pinheads who write the show, but they work. And in engineering, you use what works. Not necessarily the latest and greatest. Ladies and gentlemen, Star Trek engineering is idiot engineering. If real-life technology were routinely designed this way, we would be extinct. The writers of Star Trek may wax poetic about their renowned chief engineers, but the way the ship is designed, their engineers must be morons. Worst of all, this flying disaster-in-waiting is supposedly the product of the finest engineers the Federation has to offer. star trek sensors = shit The Federation tends to install large arrays of scientific data-gathering equipment on their ships, but this should not affect the tactical balance since long-range scientific data-gathering is interesting but not tactically useful. Their sensors are based on technology which we possessed 25,000 years ago, and they lack the ability to detect cloaked ships without using ridiculous work-arounds like tachyon-stream networks. Therefore, they must not possess an equivalent to crystal gravfield trap sensor technology. Our sensors achieve equal or superior performance in all tactically significant areas (although they may have more on-board equipment for "cataloguing gaseous anomalies" and other tactically useless functions), and we can detect cloaked ships if necessary, with CGT sensors. We do not predict that sensor technology will have any significant impact on our planned campaign against this Federation. Our sensor technology is superior to Federation sensor technology, particularly since it allows us to detect cloaked ships while they cannot. We do not believe that sensor technology will play a significant role in determining the outcome of combat in this conflict, but we recommend CGT installation on command vessels in case the enemy starts using cloaked warships. We also recommend that all jamming units be set to maximum output, because Federation starship crews are unaccustomed to dealing with sensor jamming. star trek weapons range = shit In conclusion, it is important to remember that direct observation of every Star Trek space combat incident since ST2 has failed to reveal a single incident in which starships engaged in combat at the long ranges and relativistic speeds claimed by Federation cultists. Ship-to-ship fire invariably occurs at ranges of a few kilometres at most, and any long-range fire is invariably directed at constant-velocity targets such as planets. This indicates that maneuvering impedes targeting, which is logical since maneuvering targets are more difficult to hit at long range due to beam propagation delay. There have been many suggestions that extremely high relative speeds occurred before ST2 (in TOS), but all of these incidents are based on interpretations of dialogue, rather than direct observation. ST2 was the very first time we were able to directly observe space combat, rather than relying on conjecture based on dialogue. In that incident, as well as each and every subsequent incident, we observed close ranges and sub-relativistic relative speeds. star trek shields = shit If we use published specifications for Star Wars and Star Trek shields, we find that the heat dissipation of an Old Republic Acclamator troop transport is 70 trillion GW peak1, while the heat dissipation of a Federation Galaxy Class Starship is 3311GW peak2. In other words, using published specs, we find that an Acclamator has more than 20 billion times the shield system heat dissipation of a GCS, and that is not a typo. star trek weapons = shit Heavy turbolasers release many gigatons of energy per shot, while light turbolasers release dozens of megatons of energy per shot. A Star Destroyer carries more than a hundred light turbolasers and dozens of heavy turbolasers. The Death Star (a massive compound turbolaser) releases more energy than the Sun produces in over seven thousand years! We also have ion cannon technology, which they lack.
What I found hilarious was how much better the Millennium Falcon fared than the Death Star. But I'm a bit confused. Why would Picard attack Skywalker & Co, who obviously had their hands full with that broken down wreck of a starship?
Accept for the end part with the millennium falcon. 1 phaser shot would have cut the ship in half at its lowest rate. Also btw, when I said phaser, I meant the hand held phaser. A photon torpedo would have destroyed 20 of those in a chain. I imagine it would be over in about 5 seconds if they fired immediately.
FilmPal Here some numbers proving how star wars fighters are superior to star trek capital ships : Star Wars: Slave-1 Main guns: 64000 GW (2 kilotons per shot, 480 rpm firing rate onscreen in AOTC for time-averaged power output rather than peak output) Star Trek: Enterprise-D Main phasers: 3.6 GW Star Wars: Slave-1 Missiles: 190 megatons (tail-launched missiles; seismic charge mines are roughly 12000 megatons) Star Trek: Enterprise-D Photon torpedoes: 64 megatons max theoretical Star Wars: Slave-1 Sublight acceleration: 2500G Star Trek: Enterprise-D Sublight acceleration: 1000G Star Wars: Slave-1 Operational range: not stated (however, Obi-Wan's starfighter has an operational range of 150,000 light-years, and is probably similar). Star Trek: Enterprise-D Operational range: 2750 light-years Star Wars: Slave-1 Shield heat dissipation: not stated (however, Amidala's personal yacht has shield dissipation of 2 billion GW peak, and is probably similar) Star Trek: Enterprise-D Shield heat dissipation: 3311 GW peak Star Wars: Slave-1 Reactor power: not stated (however, Amidala's personal yacht has power output of 7 billion GW max, and is probably similar) Star Trek: Enterprise-D Reactor power: ~4 billion GW at max warp 9.6 Star Wars: Slave-1 Max hyperspace speed: not stated (however, same-day flight from core to galactic outer-rim systems requires speeds in excess of 10 million c) Star Trek: Enterprise-D Max warp speed: ~2000c (warp 9.6) star trek capital ships would not even be capable of fighting star wars fighters since these fighters are more much powerful than any federation ships. star trek ships = sad joke. And star trek ships are primitive since they can be destroyed by cheese (voyager learning curve). Borg use lasers and lasers destroy star trek ships so you lost all your point long time ago. Picard and Riker are just sad liars just like you. Star wars ships can be fitted with proton beam cannon, proton/plasma torps, plasma cannons, mass drivers so all of your points are irrelevance anyway low life troll.
So I'm going to prove ST is better than SW. Star wars engineering = crap Star Wars has many weak spots, the reactor core was destroyed with a proton torpedo. (these torpedo are way less powerful than photon) There were 23 critical hits on the Republic Vessel and 37 on the Seperatist in Star Wars The Clone Wars. This proves a system of 23 unchecked areas unarmed or with small laser cannons which are useless (probably found from the skip). And as for the empires "advanced construction techniques" the AT walker at "The Empire Strikes Back" was tripped with thin wires. And it was not immune to standard attacks as it was destroyed by ill equipped rebel fighters. Which were less than 5 metres in length. Also, A small ram on the head section of the Imperial and Executor would destroy the destroyer. Star Wars shields = crap In Star Wars the Clone Wars The Republic Vessel's main artillery rooms were destroyed with 1 artillery hit measuring 53 Megawatts of Artillery Energy. The shields did nothing but stand there and let the lives of the soldiers be wasted and the entire room destroyed which would live on to a giant hit in the reactor that destroyed it. The AT had no shields. And Michael Wong and TSJ are both liars. Quote: "SW shields don't have a frequency so SW shields can't be penetrated" "No frequency = no bypass ******" Gramp is not an idiot since he proved your a liar. Gramp's Quote: Star Wars shields (as I have found thru researching quantum physics) absolutely DO HAVE FREQUENCY, as dictated as such: "Wave-particle duality is a theory that proposes that every elementary particle exhibits the properties of not only particles, but also waves." Waves are that which occur in repetitions (measured as 'frequency) that all energy is carried in. Star Wars Sensors = crap In SW at "The Empire Strikes Back" The ISD (Imperial Star Destroyer) couldn't detect the Millennium Falcon when it was on the left head section of the ISD. (Second Person View) Plus they are outranged to ST sensors. SW sensors = 17,000km ST sensors (ENTERPRISE) = 50,000km So ST beats SW epically there. Plus ST can detect a ship docked, inside, or on their hull. When they tried to attack the Millennium Falcon warped to the other side of the galaxy and they couldn't detect it. That proves their sensors are crap. And even more crap when you think this way. SW is set in a galaxy far, far away, so the galaxy would have been smaller so the area would be smaller. Star Wars Weaponry (against ST) = crap Most of Star Wars does indeed use lasers. Lasers can't penetrate navigational shields. ST shields were designed to block specific forms of offensive energy from getting to the ship's hull. Lasers have a very low power setting. They last shorter, so they do less damage, they are slow, so it takes a longer time to hit the enemy which gives the enemy a few minutes to prepare a photon torpedo that would rip the SW ship apart. "A photon torpedo that hits a lightly shielded or non-shielded ship will destroy anything in range." Which was a prediction by Memory Alpha. The Death Star had 200 turbolasers. The enterprise had 948 weapon slots on the main weapon array. Turbolasers are slow moving projectiles that do little damage. Plus the weapon pads are like trying to turn a Galaxy Class Starship 360 degrees. If you're going to crunch on the "whose got the best mental force" when I'm going to pull out the Entire Q continuum, each armed with Q and could destroy anything with thought and the Prophets who can't be killed, are the saviours of Bajor and the Federation and can kill anything with thought. Your previous point about torpedo meneuverability is lost and I have proved star trek sensors are better. Plus the Galaxy would just pull out of range of the attackers and then fire a photon torpedo and rip the ship apart. If you're going to use non-canon stuff (Expanded Universe) Then I'm going to say there is a monster with 3 heads that nothing can destroy and kills everything as soon as he blows fire. He loves star trek movies but hates SW moronic fanboys so he crunches them up. He can also control you with his mind. He is called... He is called... MR SIR CRUNCHALOT!!! xD
! Tardis, and 1 Doctor is all that is needed to disable both the Death Star or the Enterprise.Well... provided the doctor has his screwdriver and didn't just regenerate.
unlikely Since the Doctor has been to the Beginning and the end of the Universe and was actually the Cause of the Big Bang. well the 11th Doctor Sort of.
Wesley Eskildsen Well so has the Continuum, they can remove an entire race without question as the were ready to, but they do listen to fair reason. That's why the Humans still exist in Star Trek. The Continuum can and will remove a race of people for the injustice they race has committed throughout that races existence. (They wanted to remove humanity because they thought Humanity were self-centered Warmongers until Picard was able to convince them otherwise).
Thierry TSJ (AKA Thierry Fan boy) All of that is false information from Michael Wong. Plus if you wanna properly debate this go on Idazmi7's videos. He is a good troll hunter.
"Without our shields, at this range there is a high degree of probability that a photon detonation could destroy the Enterprise" ".........Shields up." CRISIS AVERTED!!
LMFAO! Brilliant editing. Anyone else laugh at the same time Data laughed? LOL! On a side note, although it's generally accepted nowadays that the Enterprise wouldn't stand a chance against the Empire(be it a Star Destroyer, Death Star, or any of the other large ships in SW)...nobody ever takes into the account of the most powerful weapon Starfleet ever developed...The Genesis Torpedo. Supposing they made a bunch of them, put them in smaller ships & shuttles, The Empire wouldn't stand a chance. It's like a pocket sized Death Star that any vessel could carry...and it can be used with a transporter. ;) Heheheheheh...
THIS IS HILARIOUS!! I apologize for the capitals, but.. It is the only way I get my sheer happiness across. I have recently seen some pretty biased stuff with kids who have never seen the Trek series, or only the episodes devotees would love. I also believe that this comment is biased towards trek but I would like to say both franchises are AWESOME before moving on. Have a great day!
The Death Star would not damage the Enterprise, but that would make it borring... I loved when Data laughed, I too laughed at how the Death Star was unable to destroy an exploration vessle. Starfleet has been around for 200 up to TNG. And the Republic has been around thousands of years. And yet, The Republic does not have Warp Engines or Phase Weapons, not even Particle Weapons. Hyperspeed is basically Warp 1. In the end of TNG, ships have Trans Warp, which can go anywhere at the blink of an eye. But, in Star Trek, usually every species is at the same level. Most actually.
Actually, this makes sense. Because if the Death Star can destroy a planet, but can be destroyed by the Enterprise, which in turn can be destroyed by the Millennium Falcon, which is about the same size as a Klingon Bird of Prey, which has wiped out the Enterprise three times, which is bigger than an T-65 X-Wing, which can also destroy the Death Star, but only if it has help from microscopic midichlorians, and only but once, then, those Klingon mosquitos must be the most destructive things in the Universe.
SW=Ewoks ST=Ferengi This is a fight I would love to see. I dont see what all the fuss is about. SW was 3 films (now 6). ST is 6 franchises spanning 20ish seasons plus a few films as well. SW fans are getting excited over 9(18)hours of footage vs ST having over 500 hours to digest.
This is ridiculous. I'm all for a little goofy sci-fi crossover, but really? Death Star superlaser can't even scratch 1701-D's paint yet the piddly quad-blaster on the Falcon fucks 'em right up. Try again dude.
Maybe it sounds like a little bit of cheese to do this, but all we need are the 5 Captains on the U.S.S. Defiant! With the best mix of supporting crews on the Enterprise. Disagreement insues, saucer sep, lol, Imma go now... 🤣🤣🤣
Uh... No. 'The expanded universe includes books, comic books, video games, spin-off films like Star Wars: The Clone Wars, television series, toys, and other media...' I can see T-Canon.( CloneWars) but C has cartoons and games, and crap. Debate needs to draw the line somewhere - Movies and TV is obviously most logical. And no, the 'entirety of EU' considered for debate? (Cue the 'Home Alone' kid) "I don't THINK so."
"MsPhysics22100 lost all his credibility here." Oops!! If you're going to submit that someone's credibility is in question, you kinda need to have some credibility yourself. If you're a known liar, or use excessive bullshit tactics, nobody will believe your claims about your own credibility or anyone else's. Sorry, but I don't make the rules. It should have been common sense to know the strength of every statement you make is critical if you expect them to support your claims.
Actually, what you are saying is very false. First of all, warp 9 is NOT nine times the speed of light, it is 1516 times C (Speed of light) and secondly, Star Wars ships travel many many times faster than Star trek ships. In Star Wars, ships travel from one end of the galaxy to the other end in days while in Star trek, ships can do so in 70-80 years. You are right, there is no competition between Star Wars and Star Trek.
WHAT ?! It seems you dont quite undertsand that this video is supossed to be funny. For your info, in the last Star trek vs Star Wars video I made, Star trek lost to a bunch of Ewoks ! You seem to take this all very seriously and you also seem to lack a sense of humor.
And you call your channel "FederationStarfleet"? Make the Millenium Falcon win. A garbage scow like that is not going to own a Federation Galaxy Class, sorry dude.
I was expecting that the Star Wars team would have won (because I'm not really a huge fan of Trek series, except I like that one episode when Data was laughing).
Anyways, in the video the Enteprise wasnt affected by the Death Star`s blasts, but was being beaten by the Millenium Falcon. Ironic in a funny way ; ) Look for the first Star Trek vs Star Wars on my list of videos.
Well, seems like you care enough to post comments about who is better than who ; ) If you have time to do that, then you have time to make a tiny bit of research before comparing both...no ?
fail.... except the ending did solicit a smile. it just wasn't funny. it didn't flow well. the "punch line" was poorly constructed. otherwise good editing.
interesting video but I don't see the Enterprise resisting the Death Star... it would have been blown up.... the Death Star can destroy planets the Enterprise shields would be useless.
Wtf ;-; A death Star can plow through an entire fleet and destroy a planet at the same time, yet it cannon penetrate a regular Star trek hull?? WTF This goes by all means against cannon!
so the Enterprise did not even have it Shields up when it got hit by the Death Star can't that thing destroy planets? I'm all for a joke but how is that funny or is that supposed to be the joke I'm confused
I had no idea the Beam Array wrapped like that before shooting that is interesting. Does that put them a bit a slower depending on the angle of the shot? What is the Arc like 180 Degrees?
If they were both met in reality it would be long battle last for many years. Since ST may had better tech of shield than SW yet star wars does not equipped with turbo laser alone they also use various types of type of projectile cannons such as Ion canons and Mass Driver, there also were types of missiles, torpedoes, sonic bombs, Buzz droids, Bio-weapons, etc. If there were real war happening between Federation and Galactic Empire, both side would automatically having their great era of technological renovations of star-ships, weapons and tactics to compete the opponents. I doubt the Federation captains would be able to fight against Imperial Warlords as Grand Admiral Thrawn, Yusanne Isard, Grand Moff Tarkin, Gilad Pellaeon and many other. In the other hand the economies will even more prosperous by new trade routes created throughout the war and once again the spearhead of leading chairmans of Trade Federation, Commence Guild, Intergalactic Banking Clan, Techno Union, etc who once the CIS will have more demanding power at least alike in the Republic Era which will cost Galactic Empire more riches and troubles by remaining active separatist who join the Rebellion Alliance. These Mega-organizations got there own private fleets as well, imagine them cross-client between the The Ferengi Alliance lol,.. they both super-greedy and manipulative. There will be also massive colonization between both galaxies,, widespread of undergroud organization of criminals, slavery, arm dealer, spice trade and black markets throughout both galaxies. The civilization of both galaxy will merge in exchange of cultures, ideals, media, and perspectives toward each other political views. It would no longer a war of forces but media and ideals to gain control of one other empires. The whole plot of ST will not solely about SF adventure anymore and so was SW sagas that would be even more deep in politics, dramatic, scientific, diverse fantasy of logical plot explanation ....which would be awesomely interesting!
its hilarious but all of that millenium falcon part didnt make sence. They were at the falcon and in the big trashroom at once? Falcon has more power than the death star? Really beeing funny is great, but that pure nonsense decreased the greatness of this vid.
Great idea, great story, wonderfully beautiful editing, but (and I keep saying this every time I comment on one of these wonderful presentations), what's up with the volume levels? I have Magix Movie Edit Pro, one of the Cheapest programs there is, and I have Volume control! You people spend hours on end putting these wonderful tidbits together, and you can't take two minutes to equalize the volume? What program do you use, and why doesn't it allow you to control the volume, if that's the case?
Star Wars is not Science Fiction is a fantastic Western Epacial therefore can not be compared to Star Trek which is really Science Fiction, it is like comparing pears with apples.
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Andreas Hansen he said “noob”
Never mess with Star Trek we have 'Q' ... no more words (letters) needed :)
+Gothmog Bahamut And the Douwd! And the ascendant Organians. And the prophets. And Caretaker's Speieces. And the other Q. And a weapon that can erase the target from time.
we have The Ones
And we have Picard.
And we have luke
And we have Picard.
Hi folks, can I just point one thing out, which may have been lost in the general STvsSW debate. I LOVE Star Trek (especially TNG) I grew up watching it and quoting it and LOVING it. Fact is, I ALSO love Star Wars, and have come back to that later in life. While it is "fun" to compare the two techs, I do find it a bit pointless to get so entrenched in one side or the other, that we just end up throwing pointless insults at what we don't like! As I said, I LOVE both...I think the Romulan D'deridex class warbird, and Klingon Vor'cha Attack cruiser are among the coolest ships ever designed, but I also love the design of the class Imperial Star Destroyer. I love seeing these ships in action, but all this talk of which is more powerful etc, etc seems a tab pointless. I tend to prefer to think of them as being equivalent, within their own Universes.
Gary Ormond *Cough* Galaxies *Cough*
Harrower-class star destroyer is my favorite. :3
There was also turbulance when the x-wings entered the magnetic field, gold leader said "hold tight".
WTF? The death star would have destroyed the enterprise with one shot...
But.... The Death Star can only fire forward...:) And it's still just a laser (see tng outrageous okona episode).
+Przemysław Borys but it destroys planets
Actually, the Death Star fires a concentrated beam of antimatter. if it were a laser, the eight or so beams that fire around the main laser would not simply stop, they would pass through one-another as light tends to do. This is because light has no mass, but antimatter does, not to mention that a laser would melt the inside of the firing chamber for the Death Star cannon because a planetary-level laser would require about 224,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 joules of energy to destroy a planet, generating more heat than the sun, which actually only gives off about 3.8 x 10^26 watts of energy. Enough antimatter to destroy a planet the size of Alderaan, or even the Earth, would be about 1.24 billion tonnes of antimatter. Not saying who would win, just setting some facts straight.
+In Depth G
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I'd imagine the enterprise could deflect a blast from their power source. The enterprise is fueled by antimatter, which is also used in the creation of warp bubbles when they go to warp speed. So it's entirely possible a beam of antimatter could be easily blocked.
its interesting how you combine the clips like this This was funny
It was stated in ANH that the death star had a magnetic field around it and turbolasers still worked. If you think enterprise can put more energy into a magnetic field than the death star id laugh in your face.
I LOL'ED at the end. Infact I laughed like Laharl from Disgaea. 0_0
@slicktyler that's not fan art, that's actual canon. And the energy of the blast is akin to a nuclear explosion due to the power of the shot.
I love BOTH franchises, and I LITERALLY laughed out loud! LOL!!!
Star Trek - the intellectual's scifi.
Star Wars - "FUCK YEAH MUH LASER FIGHTS WOOHOO!!!!"
Lasers don't even hurt Star Trek ships Star Trek ships AKA the awesomest fleet ever developed the phazers are highly concentrated plasma mixed with a laser like form and using energy to penetrate and destroy large parts of a battle ship or any ship for that matter
Will Brack Plasma weaponry is entirely different from the phasers that the Federation uses. If they were plasma, hand phasers (scaled-down versions of ship phasers) wouldn't have a stun setting. Instead, they'd just burn your ass.
Oh please Star Trek has its own share of made up claptrap and technobabble though in fairness Doctor Who does have the line, "Reverse the polarity of the neutron flow." That is why it is called science fiction.
WE DID IT WE DID IT KABBBOOOOM
derpy twerp gamer YT your puny resistance is futile
Lol, Enterprise wipes out Death star with 2 torpedo's and gets owned by the Millennium falcon, 10/10.
+Scottx125Productions - Spiffingly Serious British Gaming! THey blew up the Falcon at the end.
did you not watch the end?
we did it we did it.. bang
Scottx125 Productions xD
The Millennium Falcon was equipped with plot armor.
I love Data's belly laugh threaded into this.
That rear photon torpedo at the end was good.
Filmpal We all know physical attacks are different than sci-fi ray guns. Borg can be killed off easy with those too as evidenced by warfs blade and data's melee attacks nothing stops an imperial walker from simply stepping on a borg drone and killing it. Rebel fighters did not destroy the at-at until they hit the less armored area behind the neck and they were not even shielded either.
"Turbolasers are slow moving projectiles that do little damage."
-point defense from star destroyers were vaporizing 30m solid iron rocks and jangos mines destroyed asteroids in a multi-kilometer radius. The episode 2 ICS states the heaviest turbolasers from an acclimator can unleash 200 gigatons while we can do the math for 1.5kg of anti-matter. The numbers are not even close. You can get 65 megatons out of the photon with no dystrophy. We can match that with our nukes today. Riker said it would take all their torpedoes to destroy a 5km hollow asteroid while jango would do it with one charge. Photon torpedoes are limited by anti-matter. Starwars has anti-matter available to them to because some hyperdrives use anti-matter pods. They however don't bother with it in weapons because it is not powerful enough. Starwars has better things available to them like hypermatter. Star destroyer reactors can rival the output of stars( something which star trek needs a dyson sphere for because their reactors suck and blow up even from a non direct hit. Lukes torpedo needed a direct hit to the reactor. For that it needed to go all the way down the exaust port . Trek torpedoes would never get through it because the port was raysheilded underneath a neutronium tower and trek torpedoes are shielded as well. You still have no proof trek sensors are better, all you have proven is the effectiveness of the falcons illegal jammers. Star trek ships cannot traverse the galaxy as fast as star wars ones so your point is automatically invalid. The empire was even able to track the rebels before the battle of endor ( that's how they knew to be on the opposite side of the planet when the rebels came out of hyperspace). We also saw leia tracking the fleet in the shield bunker. I have also already proven trek is succeptable to jamming too. Using the millennium falcon as an example is a bad one and you are a moron for doing it, the falcon is so fast it would be out of trek sensor range in less than a second if it went into hyperspace.
Q were killed by starbusting weapons and the ones are universe busters, you lose. Even a powerful force user can make Q kill themselves.
"Gramp is not an idiot since he proved your a liar.
"Gramp's Quote:
Star Wars shields (as I have found thru researching quantum physics) absolutely DO HAVE FREQUENCY, as dictated as such: "Wave-particle duality is a theory that proposes that every elementary particle exhibits the properties of not only particles, but also waves." Waves are that which occur in repetitions (measured as 'frequency) that all energy is carried in."
I've already defeated gramps ford too. Do things in other universes (like hyperspace) have a frequency too? Star wars shields are hyperwaves so they might not have a frequency or at least one that can be matched in this universe or the startrek one with subspace tech for that matter.
You are an idiot!! In one post you say they are projectiles and in the next you turncoat like a true troll and say they are lasers. Can you make up your mind? When we look at star wars weapons it becomes ridiculously clear that they act nothing like lasers. Just like it is ridiculously clear that hyperspace is faster than the speed of light.
In star trek a single torpedo from a mining vessel was enough to open up a section of ship and kill numerous redshirts and the worst part about it was that the shields were still up while the separatists opened holes in their shield to return fire. We are also talking about advanced hull matierials that can survive flying through the corona of a star. Star trek needs metaphasic shields just to enter the corona of a star while a jedi transport flew through it with ALL SYSTEMS DOWN. It is also important to note that republic forces were not trying to destroy the invisible hand because the chancellor was on board.
"SW is set in a galaxy far, far away, so the galaxy would have been smaller so the area would be smaller."
-what does that have to do with anything? There are many different galaxies of varying sizes, it could be much bigger.
Subsoiledcoin But Q can erase the Entire SW galaxy from a different Dimension. Job done.
Truth be told, when the Emperor said "fire at will", I thought: "Oh, even him hates Wil Wheaton"
I thought the Emperor meant Will Riker. LOL
There is someone FINALLY out there who actually likes Star Trek. I ask people at my school if they like Star Trek.They say Star Trek is stupid, although they haven't seen Star Trek at all whatsoever.
I know we have to spread the word about how ST is better than SW.
My quotes:
First, Firepower.
ST: Borg use a shield neutraliser to wipe out any shields, then use a cutting beam to smash anything in the vicinity. Don't believe me? check out the Saratoga and the Melbourne.
SW: SW standard weapons can't effect a ship with navigational shields, let alone main and secondary. No one is dumb enough to go into the superlaser. The particle beams can be redirected with polaron waves.
Besides, who needs particle beams when ST has antiproton which are 10x better than proton and have more of a chance to hit a critical system.
Second, Durability.
ST: Can't be effected with lasers, superlaser is way too slow, and particle beams only scratch a Galaxy Class with main shields. It would take exactly 6079 shots to disable the main shields, then secondary, then navigational and then auxiliary shields.
SW: The X wings are way, way smaller than a bird of prey. Birds of prey are the smallest ships in ST exception shuttles. Proton vs Photon? Protons would destroy the core, Photons would destroy the entire Death Star. The Imperial Fighters are even weaker than the X wings. The Imperial and Executors would be dealt by the Borg. (see Borg strategies at firepower section 1) Plus. The Executor missed 19 out of 23 shots when disabling an ill equipped rebel cruiser. The ST ships have much more accuracy.
Third, Number.
SW: Size doesn't matter when they can be 1shotted by Polaron, antiproton, phaser and disruptor. Dood, you missed the Voth. A SW fan quickly points out that the fighters can destroy asteroids. True, but ST can destroy the asteroid field much more quickly due to the mass amount of range difference.
ST: The ST ships have more combat experience, thus can contain a problem (like that would happen) more quickly. It's right that SW has more ships but that doesn't matter when you can 1shot them and they have to shoot you 6000 times to disable shields. Am I finished? If you are comparing the Borg and the Federation together, it's not fair to exclude the 589 thousand other races since the Borg and the Federation are together. Some of which are like Q, and could destroy anything with thought. And since SW is a long time ago in a galaxy far far away, The Universe would have been smaller, a lot smaller. That means every ship made by SW would be 7x smaller than they're supposed to be.
Fourth: Transportation:
This matter isn't that serious.
SW: Only can use shuttles.
ST: Can use shuttles, and transporter tech. It's quite bad but it works. That's like 1.5 v 1. 1.5 wins.
Its clear that ST is much, much more advanced. I'd like to see what the SW fans can say.
FilmPal Here some numbers proving how star wars fighters are superior to star trek capital ships :
Star Wars: Slave-1 Main guns: 64000 GW (2 kilotons per shot, 480 rpm firing rate onscreen in AOTC for time-averaged power output rather than peak output)
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Main phasers: 3.6 GW
Star Wars: Slave-1 Missiles: 190 megatons (tail-launched missiles; seismic charge mines are roughly 12000 megatons)
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Photon torpedoes: 64 megatons max theoretical
Star Wars: Slave-1 Sublight acceleration: 2500G
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Sublight acceleration: 1000G
Star Wars: Slave-1 Operational range: not stated (however, Obi-Wan's starfighter has an operational range of 150,000 light-years, and is probably similar).
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Operational range: 2750 light-years
Star Wars: Slave-1 Shield heat dissipation: not stated (however, Amidala's personal yacht has shield dissipation of 2 billion GW peak, and is probably similar)
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Shield heat dissipation: 3311 GW peak
Star Wars: Slave-1 Reactor power: not stated (however, Amidala's personal yacht has power output of 7 billion GW max, and is probably similar)
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Reactor power: ~4 billion GW at max warp 9.6
Star Wars: Slave-1 Max hyperspace speed: not stated (however, same-day flight from core to galactic outer-rim systems requires speeds in excess of 10 million c)
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Max warp speed: ~2000c (warp 9.6)
star trek capital ships would not even be capable of fighting star wars fighters since these fighters are more much powerful than any federation ships. star trek ships = sad joke. And star trek ships are primitive since they can be destroyed by cheese (voyager learning curve). Borg use lasers and lasers destroy star trek ships so you lost all your point long time ago. Picard and Riker are just sad liars just like you. Star wars ships can be fitted with proton beam cannon, proton/plasma torps, plasma cannons, mass drivers so all of your points are irrelevance anyway low life troll.
Thierry TSJ
Plus the very speech saying a fighter is better than a capital ship makes you look awkward in your position.
FilmPal Star trek also has Genesis device, according to Spock, if used on a planet with life it would "destroy such life."
Since the genesis device reacts with surrounding matter such as a nebula or planet. we do not know how it would work on shielded targets if at all. starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Planetary_shield
Always liked the way Palpatine bullcrapped his way along "I have foreseen everyting.."...Come on Emperor, you never "foresaw" anything.
regertz If it's true, he foresaw his own death and was cool with it.
@@RedneckRapture LOLOLOLOLOL made my day
Data cracks me up, that was very funny when the Death Star fired and Data laughed. Gets me everytime :)
Death star could destroy whole planet and it cant destroy one ship
Karly Johnston
Forgive me but that is the DUMBEST comment I've read yet. There is a major difference between "tunnelling a hole" in a planet, and blasting it to obvion with a single pulse! The Death Star Superlaser is many, MANY orders of magnitude more powerful than ANYTHING the Federation has, and would have atomised the Enterprise D; shields or not! I'd go so far as to say that Spacedock would be blown to kingdom come by the Death Star's primary weapon, so there's no way a single ship would survive the blaster. Oh, and bear in mind that I'm a HUGE Star Trek fan also, so I'm happy to big up what the Enterprise D can REALLY do, but it CANNOT fight an entire Moon Sized space station!
Karly Johnston Phasers are inconsistent and use chain reactions to enhance their damage on planetary targets. It only took 400GW to bring down the shields of enterprise D. That's nowhere near planet busting power. It should be quite clear that enterprise D cant produce enough energy to bust a planet just by realizing they have an anti-matter reactor. They don't even usually use phasers to destroy starships that much in trek because the mechanism phasers use can be countered by hull materials. One material in T.O.S. the doomsday machine was completely immune to their effects.
Phasers don't have enough destructive energy to mass scatter a planet at hypersonic speeds like the death star did and it took the romulan drill minutes to drill through the Vulcan crust. That weapon was from the 24th century. Aside from that phasers work well on ordinary rocks. However, Dura-armor contains neutronium. Star wars has been space fairing for 25,000 years. 150 years behind TNG my ass. Remember the government petition to build the death star? Now ask yourself if we could possibly get that done today or if TNG could even build a mobile moon sized space station. (lol DS9 is nowhere near that).
Karly Johnston Didn't you notice that next to the title there is (HUMOROUS)??
Yeah but... not when its a micro-Death Star only 5 meters long, as was stated here, lol.
And... while the Federation and the Galactic Empire are fighting... The One True God Emperor of Mankind is back on earth... Preforming Exterminatus on the Federation HQ.
His legions of Space Marines have already clensed the galaxy of the Klingons and the Romulans, removing those Xeno threats. They allowed the Feringi to live for comedic relief (and their females don't wear clothes).
omg what were you thinking bringing your stupid fan fiction about warhammer shit? Off topic, AND inaccurate.
Gramps Ford Why do you care enough about my silly post to comment on it?
nate556 My comment had nothing to do with caring, and everything to do with telling you how stupid it is in hopes you'll get the hint and not continue trolling pages that aren't even hammer-related.
Grow up abd get a clue already.
nate556 "You cared enough to comment on it."
Wrong. I cared enough to do my part in handling trolls here, and you WISH you were important enough for someone to care what you say.
"You're the one wasting your time on my stupid post."
You got the stupid part right.
"You're the one bla bla bla"
You're the one who came here to get a reaction that you can try to turn into a pissing contest at a place that isn't Hammer related. How's that working out for you? Having been called perfectly on your little plan to troll (and insult) I'd say you lose. I knew what you were up to, and so far, I've just been "feeding the troll..."
"For a trekkie, you're an asshole."
Thanks. That's a huge compliment from someone like you -an immature kid getting off trying to instigating arguments in hopes of one day becoming an asshole.. Too bad you're not very good at it; See, I' immediately caught on to what you tried, so all this continuation of comment now is just me feeding the troll, and making you my bitch.
I do hope you realize you were played from the get-go.. thanks for being my little practice target. You performed admirably. Such a good little bitch. You didn't even need me to argue Warhammer to get you wet, first.
I honestly don't think you know what trolling is. Answer me this, mister Troll-bait, what was insulting about my original comment? You got upset over it, and now you're pretending to be some arrogant powerhorse. "I had all the cards, because I'm the best, nyaaa!"
If you think my original post was trying to instigate an argument, you're wrong. The funny thing is though, if that's what I was really doing, you fell for it. Hook, line, and sinker. Good job making yourself look like a condescending asshole.
See, in your own ignorance, you claim that my post was off topic. You're wrong about that. I wasn't even looking for a pissing contest, I was just being silly. You're the one who approached my silly first post, then proceeded to start insulting me. You are the one with a chip on his shoulder trying to start internet pissing contests.
I've looked over some of your recent comments, and I see you doing this a lot. You make a lot of personal insults of the people you argue with on these Star Trek vs. Star Wars videos. You're the troll, and I can bring up as many other fictional universes I want to.
Because the Valheru could also wipe it's ass with both Star Trek and Star War's fleets of starships... they could probably even lay waste to the massive Imperial hive ships in the 40K universe too.
I'm not foolish enough to expect you to make an informed posted about any of it though, since information is not in your prime directive. You should pay more attention to Star Trek, and you might learn a thing or two about how to behave in a public forum.
The falcon can't destroy the enterprise and the enterprise can't destroy the f**king Death Star!! Ur Rock Paper Scissors mechanics don't really work.
data almost killed me
''Sorry guys, bad engineering on the dark side. Next time you build better ships.''
star trek engineering is for morons. Ladies and gentlemen, Star Trek engineering is idiot engineering. If real-life technology were routinely designed this way, we would be extinct. The writers of Star Trek may wax poetic about their renowned chief engineers, but the way the ship is designed, their engineers must be morons. Worst of all, this flying disaster-in-waiting is supposedly the product of the finest engineers the Federation has to offer.
Star Trek's insults to the engineering profession don't stop with their insane ignorance of basic safety principles. Here are a two more recurring Star Trek technology clichés which have irritated me over the years:
They never use any low-technology solutions; can you imagine seeing a bucket or a wrench in Star Trek? When their kids go to the beach, they probably take a portable forcefield generator instead of a bucket and shovel. But in real life, engineers don't always use the most advanced technology. In fact, the most elegant engineering solutions are those that require the least technology, not the most. A good example is a machine gun; it uses a simple, elegant and robust mechanical system to eject each cartridge and load the next, based on gas pressure, springs, rods, and other low-tech principles. The simpler, the better. With modern technology, we could design a machine gun that uses miniaturized robotics instead, but why? The resulting weapon would be far more expensive, and far less reliable. It would require a power source, and software. It would be far more difficult to maintain. But in the world of Star Trek, that's exactly how they would do it. In a world where medical isolation bays use forcefields instead of walls, and where dumbbells have touch-screen controls on them, even the dumbest application of excessive technology is not only approved; it's mandatory.
They never follow any sort of prudent testing procedures. One of the best examples of this reckless stupidity was seen in "New Ground", where a "soliton wave" propulsion idea was tested for the first time. Did they test on a miniature test rig? No, they tested it on a full-sized ship. Did they test it in a vacuum chamber? No, they tested it in open space. Did they point it at an uninhabited moon? Of course not. They launched it directly toward a populated colony! The lead researcher explained that "if our theories are correct, the wave will envelop the ship and push it into warp," but if he had done proper testing beforehand, he would have had something to go on besides his "theories", and he wouldn't have been at a loss for words when everything went wrong and the Enterprise had to save the day. This is a fine example of the way that Star Trek insults the engineering profession; in their world, they go straight from pure theory to full-scale implementation with civilian lives at risk: something that no engineer would ever do. And this is just one example; how many times throughout Star Trek has some totally new idea been tried out by using the entire ship as the test rig? This is insane; would an aerospace engineer try out new theories on fully loaded passenger jets?
They routinely make the same mistake over and over again. In real life, when a failure occurs, a quality-certified engineering operation will immediately perform what is known as a FEMA, or Failure Effects Mode Analysis. The purpose of a FEMA is to figure out what caused the failure, what resulted from the failure, and what changes could be made to prevent this sort of failure from re-occurring. But in Star Trek, the same systems can fail over and over again (particularly when it comes to holodecks and warp core ejectors) and they seem to take no action whatsoever! Imagine if no corrective action was taken after a certain 92 cent O-ring destroyed the Space Shuttle.
You're all wrong.
Mario tehtroll Yet screen evidences say otherwise. Nice try.
Thierry Saint-Jour Mind if I cite this for my doctoral thesis? :3
Agent1W Actually I quoted this from a fan site. A guy called Micheal Wong if a remember well. He did a master degree in mechanical engineering so he knows his shit better than 99,99 % people on TH-cam. Thats why I love quoting him so much.
To give that guy the credit he deserves : www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Tech/
But yeah knock yourself out. ^^
but he still doesn't know from the show, and he's one sided too, so nice try.
Well, it is funny, but if we take so seriously the footage shot during SW and ST series, then any kind of an SW ship could hardly do any damage to any fed vessel, even a shuttle. Here a lot of SW fans are deducing the power limits of their weaponry from things like vaporizing asteroids, which has high power requirements. On the other hand in the episode Death Wish of ST Voyager, Q takes back Voyager to the exact time of the BIG BANG, and the ship lasts for more than twenty seconds without the help of Q. As long as there are no places for 3D existences such as outside of our Universe, that means that the ship's shield system could absorb most of the energy the Early Universe emitted, which roughly means 75% of all existing matter and energy in our Universe, and not for a short fire from a death star, almost haf a minute. That means, that even a planet killer is a tiny little thing compared to this defensive power, and raise the question, how does a planet killer can have more energy than the Universe itself. It is fuelling from our Universe right, even if we consider the fanciest propelling agent, it cant have more energy than what it is feeding from. Of course, this logic is ridiculous, such as the logic which derives power outputs, from an action SCI-FI flick. Lets say that at the end of the day, it is more believable, that a Death Star like stuff could be easily destroyed by the Feds, if it is done, by a low end X wing. Maybe they would lose one or two cruisers. Sorry guys, bad engineering on the dark side. Next time you build better ships.
You, my friend, are the future for the Mammalian Species.
that's deep.
I think you win.
Kinda loading the dice with that setup. ST has a way the hell more content, SW never gets around to that kind of thing. Though Rogue 1 started to
Gabor Rajnai still star wars is bettet
Star Trek franchise have a lot of hot beauties never seen in Star Wars Saga.... Marina Sirtis as Deanna Troi, Sherry Jackson as Android Andrea, Nichelle Nichols and Zoey Saldana as Uhura, Gates McFadden as Beverly Crusher, Denise Crosby as Tasha Yar, Michelle Forbes as Ro Laren, Diana Muldaur as Katherine Pulaski, Nana Visitor as Kira Nerys, Terry Farrell as Jadzia Dax, Nicole de Boer as Ezri Dax, Jeri Ryan as 7 of 9, Jolene King Blalock as T'Pol, Beth Toussaint as Ishara Yar, Famke Jensen as Kamala, Ashley Judd as Robin Lefler, Kirstie Alley as Saavik, Kate Mulgrew as Cpt. Janeway, Sofia Boutella as Jaylah, Alice Eve as Carol Marcus, Sonequa Martin Green as Michael Burnan, Michelle Yeho as Filippa Georgiu, Tasia Valenza as T'Shanik, Darlena Tejeiro as S.T. 2009 Flight Officer, etc, etc, etc..... In comparation Star Wars girls are Orcs. By other side Star Trek is more clean Hygienic and ordered environment. Star Wars people seem like living in a garbage dump......
The Enterprise goes to attack the poor guys for no reason... xD
So, the Enterprise defeats the Death Star with one torpedo, but can't beat the Millennium Falcon....riiiiggggt
''On the other hand in the episode Death Wish of ST Voyager, Q takes back Voyager to the exact time of the BIG BANG, and the ship lasts for more than twenty seconds without the help of Q. ''
FLASE !!! Q was helping them since we konw star trek shields fail at a low 400 GW according to Worf himself. Your whole argument is now invalid.
You don't know what the voltage was so you can't say anything. It lasted more than 20 seconds without the help of Q. The big bang was enourmous but it certainly didn't contain 400GW. If you want a prediction just blow a hole in the ground worth 400 GW. Worf is a liar. Your whole argument is now invalid. No need to thank me, it was a great pleasure. Live long and prosper. =/\=
that enterprise wouldn't even get a chance to get a fight, it would just get destroyed before they can sey "hey whats that"?(turbolaser superbeam) annihilation towards the Enterprise
Meh... Trek would win!
just saying that for reactions from star wars nerds huh?
Nah, it's just a bit of fun really.
It is, none the less, true.
Stuart K. Seels
depends on circumstance, for example the Death Star could destroy anything in the Federation's arsenal but the enterprise could maybe destroy a venator class republic star cruiser.
Oh dear... So, we're going to do this are we??? But I don't want to. I'm tired.
Star was cool until JJ Abrams fucked up the timeline and destroyed Valcan .
So many edits, voice-overs and errors. The Borg are far more formidable than any Star Wars 'master'. A farce of epic proportions.
The Millennium Falcon was a busted up cargo ship, it could never win in a head-on battle against the Enterprise, not even remotely possible.
This isn't supposed to be a finished product ready for scrutiny, its an imaginative throw-together from existing footage. For a part-time hobby it gets the story told.
I agree - anything small enough to fit into the cargo bay of the Enterprise would get dematerialized and the rest can try their luck with warp-speed torpedoes, not the 5,000km/s crap they're used to dealing with.
I enjoyed the clip regardless. Quite good in fact.
Anytime Star Wars can be vilified, I'm all for it!
I know and the Death Star doesn't even put out enough energy penetrate the crust of the earth
I want to see an assimilated Death Star :(
I WANT AN ASSIMILATED DEATH STAAAAAAAAAAR!!!
Trektard.
Enterprise would vaporise the millennium Falcon and there’s no other way of saying it
DIED AT THE MUTE
The death star in this video is unprepaird for this one
Ir it could be that the death star might had some failure in the center
I don't understand how the Death Star did no damage but the Falcon was messing up the Enterprise? That part makes no sense. Still enjoyable.
Don't tell me that DS is using the minimum power possible for its main cannon.
It can be tuned down right?I suppose DS operators messed up the scale.
funny how a laser that can destroy a planet but not a ship, and where are the star destroyers to lay down millajoules of energy down on the "sheilds" that the milleanium falcon can beat
Fire at will commander!... riker dies
redshirts always die
truly the best video of the realistic thing that would happen.
The handle of the person who posted the video sort gives away who is going to win. Still, a great ending.
This was absolutely hilarious. Mocking the massive blast of the Death Star, Data laughing... *MUTE*, (Casually) 'shields up'..., The conundrum part listening to the comms, the Millenium Falcon having such a massive punch, and that final torpedo volley destroying them after so many hits failed to, everything was just f***ing hilarious!!!
This is easily the best SW Vs ST video I've ever seen.
There's a difference between funny-stupid and just stupid-stupid. Monty Python and other absurdist comedy is funny stupid. The Enterprise shrugging off the Death Star laser without shields is just stupid-stupid. It's not humorous. Nor is the Millenium Falcon lasting more than a second against a Galaxy class starship.
yea, it wasn't funny to me either, I'm too logical for stupidity humor.
Gabor Rajnai, I just rendered all of your points invalid. No need to thank me man. ^^ It was a pleasure.
''If Star Trek depicted a well-designed ship, the ship would never explode from a computer virus, power failures, or low-speed impact on a warp nacelle. Such problems might cause the reactor to shut down, or they might cause the antimatter pods to eject into space, or they might cause damage to systems which happen to be in the vicinity of the impact, but that's it. Can you imagine if a real-life aircraft carrier took a minor hit above the waterline and exploded as a result? Heads would roll. Real-life ships have indeed exploded from a critical hit (the most famous example being the HMS Hood in WW2), but only when it hits the magazine. No machinery hit has ever caused such a calamity.''
I just rendered all your points invalid. No need to thank me. It was a great pleasure.
The problem is, SW doesn't have computer viruses. That point is irrelevant. Nice try.
The only power failure ST gets that destroys the ship is warp core breach. I never heard of a suicide SW ship. Even if they were, the pilot controls are so screwed up they would just hit the saucer which wouldn't even destroy 1 room. Such problems don't cause the reactor to shut down, and the only need of ejecting antimatter pods into space is if you are in a black hole. And that won't happen. Nice try. They won't shut down since your weapons have no effect on ours.
All my points are permenately gained, and all yours, are eliminated. Good game.
FilmPal Excuse fucking idiot but star trek ships can be destroyed by cheese according to voyager learning curve proving how primitive star trek ships truly are lol.
Maguie Féquière lol true. star trek ships are so shit and weak that even cheese can put them down. Thanks for reminding me this.
Another attempt of the star trek community to try and discredit star wars, and a week one at that...
Star Trek CLEARLY > Star Wars
Even the Death Star couldn't cause damage to the Enterprise... even with inertial dampeners released, the ship wasn't even vibrated
Because SW uses LASERS. Lasers can't penetrate ST shields. SW engineering is the most practically useless engineering there is if it can't take a normal 200GW of dmg.
In fact star trek ships are way inferior compared to star wars ships bacause star trek ships can be defeated using cheese according to voyager learning curve. So no need for weapons to destroy star trek ships.
Here some numbers proving how star wars fighters are superior to star trek capital ships :
Star Wars: Slave-1 Main guns: 64000 GW (2 kilotons per shot, 480 rpm firing rate onscreen in AOTC for time-averaged power output rather than peak output)
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Main phasers: 3.6 GW
Star Wars: Slave-1 Missiles: 190 megatons (tail-launched missiles; seismic charge mines are roughly 12000 megatons)
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Photon torpedoes: 64 megatons max theoretical
Star Wars: Slave-1 Sublight acceleration: 2500G
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Sublight acceleration: 1000G
Star Wars: Slave-1 Operational range: not stated (however, Obi-Wan's starfighter has an operational range of 150,000 light-years, and is probably similar).
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Operational range: 2750 light-years
Star Wars: Slave-1 Shield heat dissipation: not stated (however, Amidala's personal yacht has shield dissipation of 2 billion GW peak, and is probably similar)
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Shield heat dissipation: 3311 GW peak
Star Wars: Slave-1 Reactor power: not stated (however, Amidala's personal yacht has power output of 7 billion GW max, and is probably similar)
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Reactor power: ~4 billion GW at max warp 9.6
Star Wars: Slave-1 Max hyperspace speed: not stated (however, same-day flight from core to galactic outer-rim systems requires speeds in excess of 10 million c)
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Max warp speed: ~2000c (warp 9.6)
star trek capital ships would not even be capable of fighting star wars fighters since these fighters are more much powerful than any federation ships. star trek ships = sad joke. And star trek ships are primitive since they can be destroyed by cheese (voyager learning curve). Borg use lasers and lasers destroy star trek ships. Picard and Riker are just sad liars. Star wars ships can be fitted with proton beam cannon, proton/plasma torps, plasma cannons, mass drivers.
Thierry Saint-Jour
ST has more advanced sensors
SW only has prototype cloaks
ST everyone has cloaks
SW will pale in comparison to the amount of races ST has. Altogether they would destroy the entire fleet of imperials.
You want giant ships? Check out the Voth Dreadnought and the Voth Fortress.
ST has photon torps which could rip any SW ship into shreds considering the DS was instakilled with a proton torp.
SW weapons are inaccurate.
ST weapons are always accurate.
SW has bad range.
ST could just sit at 50,000 km and fire a photon torpedo to obliterate the SW ships.
ST Enterprise has rapid fire photons that would destroy the entire imperial fleet.
SW ships are in a galaxy far far away and the universe would have been smaller so every SW ship would be minitature, therefore less able to damage or defend.
The Prophets can't be killed and can destroy anything with thought.
The Q, Ocampa, Prophets, and the entire Q Contiuum could instakill anything from SW.
SW uses lasers. Lasers can't even penetrate navigational shields.
The Borg could use a borg shield neutraliser and a cutting beam to devour any SW ship.
SW armies are outdated - use an orbital strike (facepalm)
Second round!
The shields in SW are much less effective - When the republic ship went into firing position with the Seperatist ship in SWTCW
the shields were on and the artillery destroyed the whole room.
SW weapons, since miniature - have bad weapon power. Even if they weren't they would still be crap.
SW sensors are like Advanced uayalisers - Unfortunately they do not exist.
The sun crusher would be INSTAKILLED by the Undine Planet Destroyers (Way, way bigger than the DS)
SW engineering is for morons. The armour is rubbish, the shields are paper and the weapons are rubbish, It's easy to land a critical hit, like you would need to, just fire a quantum/photon torpedo.
This is proof SW has no chance against ST.
I'd like to see what a SW fan can say legitimately.
PS: Don't bother on the lasers, because any EU of SW isn't canon, and I won't bother looking at SD.net
FilmPal star trek engineering = shit
Of course, this is just one of many near-disasters. If I had a dollar for every time the Enterprise nearly blew up, I'd be a rich man. Two of the most obvious problems are described in the dialogue above: emergency measures are unreliable, and the entire system, as conceptualized by the show's writers and tech advisors, is inherently unsafe. Not only do the fictional engineers of Star Trek ignore the sensible and time-tested engineering risk management principles of redundancy, diversity, isolation, and failure actuation, but whenever possible, they actually do the exact opposite! Consider:
Instead of minimizing excess reactivity, they seem to be doing everything in their power to increase it. Evidence of the high excess reactivity of a warp core can be found every time one of 'em blows up. For example, in "Generations", they knew the reactor was going to blow five minutes before it actually did, and they couldn't do anything but evacuate. In "Disaster", we saw a similar scenario; the reactor was counting down to doomsday throughout the entire second half of the episode. The only way they could stop these catastrophes was to eject the entire warp core or restore the containment field. You would think that they could simply shut off the flow of antimatter into the chamber (or at the very least, redirect it out into space), but it appears that even if they do so, the warp core contains enough unreacted fuel at any time to destroy the entire ship. It's a textbook example of extreme excess reactivity.
Instead of redundancy and diversity, they seem to have just one system for any given function. In "Contagion", they described exactly one emergency antimatter storage dump, whose failure caused the total destruction of the USS Yamato. In "The Naked Now", we found that the ship only has one central computer core, whose partial disassembly left the Enterprise helpless in the path of an oncoming chunk of iron. In several combat incidents, all of the weapons on the entire ship were disabled by a single hit. In "Generations", we found that they have only one warp core ejection system, and when it failed, the ship was doomed. They may occasionally speak of redundancy but they've given no evidence of it, so it seems apparent that the Enterprise lacks either redundancy or diversity (or both) in its critical systems.
Instead of isolating critical systems from one another, they actually merge them as much as possible! All of the ship's systems share everything from physical enclosures to sensors and of course, a common centralized computer. That is why a virus was able to spread into every conceivable system on the entire ship after starting from just one point in "Contagion", rapidly affecting everything from doors to turbolifts, replicators, lighting, weapons, shields, communications, and of course, the warp core. Instead of envisioning multiple independent systems, some of which are isolated and some of which exchange data with one another, the writers chose to envision a single "Big Brother" computer which runs everything. It knows when you've been sleeping ... it knows when you're awake ... it knows when you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness' sake ...
Instead of employing the "dead man's switch" principle, their entire design principle is to make the ship utterly dependent, minute by minute, second by second, on the continued operation of numerous active systems. Without the much-ballyhooed structural integrity field, the ship won't even hold together. Without various force fields and containment systems, the ship will explode in a fraction of a second. Even when they take a biohazard on board, they contain it exclusively with a forcefield, which means that the lives of the entire crew are dependent on the continued operation, millisecond by millisecond, of some forcefield generator. I know that bottles and walls may seem "primitive" to the pinheads who write the show, but they work. And in engineering, you use what works. Not necessarily the latest and greatest.
Ladies and gentlemen, Star Trek engineering is idiot engineering. If real-life technology were routinely designed this way, we would be extinct. The writers of Star Trek may wax poetic about their renowned chief engineers, but the way the ship is designed, their engineers must be morons. Worst of all, this flying disaster-in-waiting is supposedly the product of the finest engineers the Federation has to offer.
star trek sensors = shit
The Federation tends to install large arrays of scientific data-gathering equipment on their ships, but this should not affect the tactical balance since long-range scientific data-gathering is interesting but not tactically useful. Their sensors are based on technology which we possessed 25,000 years ago, and they lack the ability to detect cloaked ships without using ridiculous work-arounds like tachyon-stream networks. Therefore, they must not possess an equivalent to crystal gravfield trap sensor technology. Our sensors achieve equal or superior performance in all tactically significant areas (although they may have more on-board equipment for "cataloguing gaseous anomalies" and other tactically useless functions), and we can detect cloaked ships if necessary, with CGT sensors. We do not predict that sensor technology will have any significant impact on our planned campaign against this Federation.
Our sensor technology is superior to Federation sensor technology, particularly since it allows us to detect cloaked ships while they cannot. We do not believe that sensor technology will play a significant role in determining the outcome of combat in this conflict, but we recommend CGT installation on command vessels in case the enemy starts using cloaked warships. We also recommend that all jamming units be set to maximum output, because Federation starship crews are unaccustomed to dealing with sensor jamming.
star trek weapons range = shit
In conclusion, it is important to remember that direct observation of every Star Trek space combat incident since ST2 has failed to reveal a single incident in which starships engaged in combat at the long ranges and relativistic speeds claimed by Federation cultists. Ship-to-ship fire invariably occurs at ranges of a few kilometres at most, and any long-range fire is invariably directed at constant-velocity targets such as planets. This indicates that maneuvering impedes targeting, which is logical since maneuvering targets are more difficult to hit at long range due to beam propagation delay. There have been many suggestions that extremely high relative speeds occurred before ST2 (in TOS), but all of these incidents are based on interpretations of dialogue, rather than direct observation. ST2 was the very first time we were able to directly observe space combat, rather than relying on conjecture based on dialogue. In that incident, as well as each and every subsequent incident, we observed close ranges and sub-relativistic relative speeds.
star trek shields = shit
If we use published specifications for Star Wars and Star Trek shields, we find that the heat dissipation of an Old Republic Acclamator troop transport is 70 trillion GW peak1, while the heat dissipation of a Federation Galaxy Class Starship is 3311GW peak2. In other words, using published specs, we find that an Acclamator has more than 20 billion times the shield system heat dissipation of a GCS, and that is not a typo.
star trek weapons = shit
Heavy turbolasers release many gigatons of energy per shot, while light turbolasers release dozens of megatons of energy per shot. A Star Destroyer carries more than a hundred light turbolasers and dozens of heavy turbolasers. The Death Star (a massive compound turbolaser) releases more energy than the Sun produces in over seven thousand years! We also have ion cannon technology, which they lack.
What I found hilarious was how much better the Millennium Falcon fared than the Death Star. But I'm a bit confused. Why would Picard attack Skywalker & Co, who obviously had their hands full with that broken down wreck of a starship?
That laser can destroy planets I think it can destroy a small star ship
omfg this is funny. Well done.
the death star destroy a planet but not the enterprise?????
Hilarious! ... LMAO... my money is on the Emperor and the Dark Side. Species 6472 would be a more formidable foe against the Emperor.
Don't you mean species 8472, from fluidic space?
Oops! Yes!
@@lordbyron3603 or the Undine as they're also known!🤔
Ok im gonna call complete bullshit the Death Star would obliterate the Enterprise or did nobody else see when it destroyed a fucking planet
+CapitanTitus N7 1) Enterprise could outmaneuver the Death Star easily. 2) Lasers don't deal any damage to Starfleet Ships because of their shields.
Quote on quote: Epic conflict. More like a great video that describes exactly what would happen.
Yup
Yup. I agree.
Accept for the end part with the millennium falcon. 1 phaser shot would have cut the ship in half at its lowest rate. Also btw, when I said phaser, I meant the hand held phaser. A photon torpedo would have destroyed 20 of those in a chain. I imagine it would be over in about 5 seconds if they fired immediately.
You re talking in mathematics? Why?
FilmPal Here some numbers proving how star wars fighters are superior to star trek capital ships :
Star Wars: Slave-1 Main guns: 64000 GW (2 kilotons per shot, 480 rpm firing rate onscreen in AOTC for time-averaged power output rather than peak output)
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Main phasers: 3.6 GW
Star Wars: Slave-1 Missiles: 190 megatons (tail-launched missiles; seismic charge mines are roughly 12000 megatons)
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Photon torpedoes: 64 megatons max theoretical
Star Wars: Slave-1 Sublight acceleration: 2500G
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Sublight acceleration: 1000G
Star Wars: Slave-1 Operational range: not stated (however, Obi-Wan's starfighter has an operational range of 150,000 light-years, and is probably similar).
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Operational range: 2750 light-years
Star Wars: Slave-1 Shield heat dissipation: not stated (however, Amidala's personal yacht has shield dissipation of 2 billion GW peak, and is probably similar)
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Shield heat dissipation: 3311 GW peak
Star Wars: Slave-1 Reactor power: not stated (however, Amidala's personal yacht has power output of 7 billion GW max, and is probably similar)
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Reactor power: ~4 billion GW at max warp 9.6
Star Wars: Slave-1 Max hyperspace speed: not stated (however, same-day flight from core to galactic outer-rim systems requires speeds in excess of 10 million c)
Star Trek: Enterprise-D Max warp speed: ~2000c (warp 9.6)
star trek capital ships would not even be capable of fighting star wars fighters since these fighters are more much powerful than any federation ships. star trek ships = sad joke. And star trek ships are primitive since they can be destroyed by cheese (voyager learning curve). Borg use lasers and lasers destroy star trek ships so you lost all your point long time ago. Picard and Riker are just sad liars just like you. Star wars ships can be fitted with proton beam cannon, proton/plasma torps, plasma cannons, mass drivers so all of your points are irrelevance anyway low life troll.
Death star: *can destroy a planet*
Also death star: *cannot damage a starship not even designed for battle*
So I'm going to prove ST is better than SW.
Star wars engineering = crap
Star Wars has many weak spots, the reactor core was destroyed with a proton torpedo. (these torpedo are way less powerful than photon) There were 23 critical hits on the Republic Vessel and 37 on the Seperatist in Star Wars The Clone Wars. This proves a system of 23 unchecked areas unarmed or with small laser cannons which are useless (probably found from the skip). And as for the empires "advanced construction techniques" the AT walker at "The Empire Strikes Back" was tripped with thin wires. And it was not immune to standard attacks as it was destroyed by ill equipped rebel fighters. Which were less than 5 metres in length. Also, A small ram on the head section of the Imperial and Executor would destroy the destroyer.
Star Wars shields = crap
In Star Wars the Clone Wars The Republic Vessel's main artillery rooms were destroyed with 1 artillery hit measuring 53 Megawatts of Artillery Energy. The shields did nothing but stand there and let the lives of the soldiers be wasted and the entire room destroyed which would live on to a giant hit in the reactor that destroyed it. The AT had no shields. And Michael Wong and TSJ are both liars.
Quote:
"SW shields don't have a frequency so SW shields can't be penetrated"
"No frequency = no bypass ******"
Gramp is not an idiot since he proved your a liar.
Gramp's Quote:
Star Wars shields (as I have found thru researching quantum physics) absolutely DO HAVE FREQUENCY, as dictated as such: "Wave-particle duality is a theory that proposes that every elementary particle exhibits the properties of not only particles, but also waves." Waves are that which occur in repetitions (measured as 'frequency) that all energy is carried in.
Star Wars Sensors = crap
In SW at "The Empire Strikes Back" The ISD (Imperial Star Destroyer) couldn't detect the Millennium Falcon when it was on the left head section of the ISD. (Second Person View) Plus they are outranged to ST sensors.
SW sensors = 17,000km
ST sensors (ENTERPRISE) = 50,000km
So ST beats SW epically there.
Plus ST can detect a ship docked, inside, or on their hull.
When they tried to attack the Millennium Falcon warped to the other side of the galaxy and they couldn't detect it. That proves their sensors are crap. And even more crap when you think this way. SW is set in a galaxy far, far away, so the galaxy would have been smaller so the area would be smaller.
Star Wars Weaponry (against ST) = crap
Most of Star Wars does indeed use lasers. Lasers can't penetrate navigational shields. ST shields were designed to block specific forms of offensive energy from getting to the ship's hull. Lasers have a very low power setting. They last shorter, so they do less damage, they are slow, so it takes a longer time to hit the enemy which gives the enemy a few minutes to prepare a photon torpedo that would rip the SW ship apart. "A photon torpedo that hits a lightly shielded or non-shielded ship will destroy anything in range." Which was a prediction by Memory Alpha.
The Death Star had 200 turbolasers. The enterprise had 948 weapon slots on the main weapon array.
Turbolasers are slow moving projectiles that do little damage. Plus the weapon pads are like trying to turn a Galaxy Class Starship 360 degrees.
If you're going to crunch on the "whose got the best mental force" when I'm going to pull out the Entire Q continuum, each armed with Q and could destroy anything with thought and the Prophets who can't be killed, are the saviours of Bajor and the Federation and can kill anything with thought.
Your previous point about torpedo meneuverability is lost and I have proved star trek sensors are better. Plus the Galaxy would just pull out of range of the attackers and then fire a photon torpedo and rip the ship apart. If you're going to use non-canon stuff (Expanded Universe) Then I'm going to say there is a monster with 3 heads that nothing can destroy and kills everything as soon as he blows fire. He loves star trek movies but hates SW moronic fanboys so he crunches them up. He can also control you with his mind. He is called... He is called... MR SIR CRUNCHALOT!!!
xD
"5 Metres"
*shows death star 2*
Really know how to troll fans...
So totally inaccurate. Death Star destroyed entire planets. Enterprise stands no chance
Planets dont have shields
dude. can a star trek ship crash into a planet and still be in complete tact>? i dont think so
james alan "crash into a planet and still be in complete tact"
Didn't Voyager crash land on planet?
were not refering to that time line. im meaning the different time period, the one the movies are taking place in or whatever
james alan 'we' didnt specify any timeline, nor would you be granted the authority to dictate which should be disregarded, sorry.
! Tardis, and 1 Doctor is all that is needed to disable both the Death Star or the Enterprise.Well... provided the doctor has his screwdriver and didn't just regenerate.
Wesley Eskildsen Have you heard of the Q Continuum? They could make even the Doctor regret everything he has done.
unlikely Since the Doctor has been to the Beginning and the end of the Universe and was actually the Cause of the Big Bang. well the 11th Doctor Sort of.
Wesley Eskildsen Well so has the Continuum, they can remove an entire race without question as the were ready to, but they do listen to fair reason. That's why the Humans still exist in Star Trek. The Continuum can and will remove a race of people for the injustice they race has committed throughout that races existence. (They wanted to remove humanity because they thought Humanity were self-centered Warmongers until Picard was able to convince them otherwise).
Worf: "We are being probed" Picard: "What is the source of the probe?" Worf: "A ship" Picard: "Really? I thought it was a Mango?" hahahhahahaha!
"Garbage chute was a really wonderful idea! what an incredible smell you've discovered"...lol
Thierry TSJ (AKA Thierry Fan boy) All of that is false information from Michael Wong. Plus if you wanna properly debate this go on Idazmi7's videos. He is a good troll hunter.
"Without our shields, at this range there is a high degree of probability that a photon detonation could destroy the Enterprise"
".........Shields up."
CRISIS AVERTED!!
startrek is batter then starward
I thunk you moan startrev is batter then starward! :D
LMFAO! Brilliant editing.
Anyone else laugh at the same time Data laughed? LOL!
On a side note, although it's generally accepted nowadays that the Enterprise wouldn't stand a chance against the Empire(be it a Star Destroyer, Death Star, or any of the other large ships in SW)...nobody ever takes into the account of the most powerful weapon Starfleet ever developed...The Genesis Torpedo.
Supposing they made a bunch of them, put them in smaller ships & shuttles, The Empire wouldn't stand a chance. It's like a pocket sized Death Star that any vessel could carry...and it can be used with a transporter. ;)
Heheheheheh...
THIS IS HILARIOUS!! I apologize for the capitals, but.. It is the only way I get my sheer happiness across. I have recently seen some pretty biased stuff with kids who have never seen the Trek series, or only the episodes devotees would love.
I also believe that this comment is biased towards trek but I would like to say both franchises are AWESOME before moving on.
Have a great day!
The Death Star would not damage the Enterprise, but that would make it borring... I loved when Data laughed, I too laughed at how the Death Star was unable to destroy an exploration vessle. Starfleet has been around for 200 up to TNG. And the Republic has been around thousands of years. And yet, The Republic does not have Warp Engines or Phase Weapons, not even Particle Weapons. Hyperspeed is basically Warp 1. In the end of TNG, ships have Trans Warp, which can go anywhere at the blink of an eye. But, in Star Trek, usually every species is at the same level. Most actually.
Actually, this makes sense.
Because if the Death Star can destroy a planet, but can be destroyed by the Enterprise, which in turn can be destroyed by the Millennium Falcon, which is about the same size as a Klingon Bird of Prey, which has wiped out the Enterprise three times, which is bigger than an T-65 X-Wing, which can also destroy the Death Star, but only if it has help from microscopic midichlorians, and only but once,
then,
those Klingon mosquitos must be the most destructive things in the Universe.
SW=Ewoks
ST=Ferengi
This is a fight I would love to see.
I dont see what all the fuss is about. SW was 3 films (now 6). ST is 6 franchises spanning 20ish seasons plus a few films as well. SW fans are getting excited over 9(18)hours of footage vs ST having over 500 hours to digest.
This is ridiculous. I'm all for a little goofy sci-fi crossover, but really? Death Star superlaser can't even scratch 1701-D's paint yet the piddly quad-blaster on the Falcon fucks 'em right up. Try again dude.
Maybe it sounds like a little bit of cheese to do this, but all we need are the 5 Captains on the U.S.S. Defiant! With the best mix of supporting crews on the Enterprise. Disagreement insues, saucer sep, lol, Imma go now... 🤣🤣🤣
Uh... No.
'The expanded universe includes books, comic books, video games, spin-off films like Star Wars: The Clone Wars, television series, toys, and other media...'
I can see T-Canon.( CloneWars) but C has cartoons and games, and crap. Debate needs to draw the line somewhere - Movies and TV is obviously most logical. And no, the 'entirety of EU' considered for debate? (Cue the 'Home Alone' kid) "I don't THINK so."
"MsPhysics22100 lost all his credibility here."
Oops!! If you're going to submit that someone's credibility is in question, you kinda need to have some credibility yourself. If you're a known liar, or use excessive bullshit tactics, nobody will believe your claims about your own credibility or anyone else's. Sorry, but I don't make the rules. It should have been common sense to know the strength of every statement you make is critical if you expect them to support your claims.
Actually, what you are saying is very false.
First of all, warp 9 is NOT nine times the speed of light, it is 1516 times C (Speed of light) and secondly, Star Wars ships travel many many times faster than Star trek ships.
In Star Wars, ships travel from one end of the galaxy to the other end in days while in Star trek, ships can do so in 70-80 years.
You are right, there is no competition between Star Wars and Star Trek.
it seems very disjointed the clip BARELY go together to make a story, if you REALLY use your imagination it KIND OF works...A BIT
WHAT ?!
It seems you dont quite undertsand that this video is supossed to be funny.
For your info, in the last Star trek vs Star Wars video I made, Star trek lost to a bunch of Ewoks !
You seem to take this all very seriously and you also seem to lack a sense of humor.
And you call your channel "FederationStarfleet"? Make the Millenium Falcon win. A garbage scow like that is not going to own a Federation Galaxy Class, sorry dude.
This is funny,
but if taken seriously, a good match would be the Enterprise Versus a Victory Cruiser, a Intridictor Cruiser, or maybe a Arquinten.
I was expecting that the Star Wars team would have won (because I'm not really a huge fan of Trek series, except I like that one episode when Data was laughing).
Anyways, in the video the Enteprise wasnt affected by the Death Star`s blasts, but was being beaten by the Millenium Falcon.
Ironic in a funny way ; )
Look for the first Star Trek vs Star Wars on my list of videos.
Well, seems like you care enough to post comments about who is better than who ; )
If you have time to do that, then you have time to make a tiny bit of research before comparing both...no ?
fail.... except the ending did solicit a smile. it just wasn't funny. it didn't flow well. the "punch line" was poorly constructed. otherwise good editing.
Ouch..really horrible to watch.
Lost me at "The destroyer is 5 meters in length", then they show the second Death Star....
Really bad.
Lol! That was funny. Especially Data laughing during the attack.
It was meant to be funny guys. :-).
40 mega wats.. thats about the same strenth of a GM { gundam universe} beam spray gun.. how about do a vid of gundam vs star trek XD
I like both but come on star wars would wreck. The death star would blow it up. And startreck has bad effects. Gg noobs
That video tells us the truth, exept enterprise would destroy the falcon with one shot and no damage.I mean 22 century against 24
interesting video but I don't see the Enterprise resisting the Death Star... it would have been blown up.... the Death Star can destroy planets the Enterprise shields would be useless.
oh god the fanboy stench. the empire fifty times stronger than the fulcan but the Star Trek Warp shuttles with class 1 phasers can takeout the empire.
Wtf ;-;
A death Star can plow through an entire fleet and destroy a planet at the same time, yet it cannon penetrate a regular Star trek hull?? WTF This goes by all means against cannon!
so the Enterprise did not even have it Shields up when it got hit by the Death Star can't that thing destroy planets? I'm all for a joke but how is that funny or is that supposed to be the joke I'm confused
Star Wars scrubs. You should remember that lasers can't even penetrate the enterprises navigation shields, let alone their main shields. -.-
I had no idea the Beam Array wrapped like that before shooting that is interesting. Does that put them a bit a slower depending on the angle of the shot? What is the Arc like 180 Degrees?
If they were both met in reality it would be long battle last for many years. Since ST may had better tech of shield than SW yet star wars does not equipped with turbo laser alone they also use various types of type of projectile cannons such as Ion canons and Mass Driver, there also were types of missiles, torpedoes, sonic bombs, Buzz droids, Bio-weapons, etc.
If there were real war happening between Federation and Galactic Empire, both side would automatically having their great era of technological renovations of star-ships, weapons and tactics to compete the opponents. I doubt the Federation captains would be able to fight against Imperial Warlords as Grand Admiral Thrawn, Yusanne Isard, Grand Moff Tarkin, Gilad Pellaeon and many other.
In the other hand the economies will even more prosperous by new trade routes created throughout the war and once again the spearhead of leading chairmans of Trade Federation, Commence Guild, Intergalactic Banking Clan, Techno Union, etc who once the CIS will have more demanding power at least alike in the Republic Era which will cost Galactic Empire more riches and troubles by remaining active separatist who join the Rebellion Alliance.
These Mega-organizations got there own private fleets as well, imagine them cross-client between the The Ferengi Alliance lol,.. they both super-greedy and manipulative. There will be also massive colonization between both galaxies,, widespread of undergroud organization of criminals, slavery, arm dealer, spice trade and black markets throughout both galaxies. The civilization of both galaxy will merge in exchange of cultures, ideals, media, and perspectives toward each other political views.
It would no longer a war of forces but media and ideals to gain control of one other empires.
The whole plot of ST will not solely about SF adventure anymore and so was SW sagas that would be even more deep in politics, dramatic, scientific, diverse fantasy of logical plot explanation ....which would be awesomely interesting!
with Ryker on the enterprise, literally every time an enemy attacks they are "firing at Will". just thought id leave you with that fun fact.
its hilarious but all of that millenium falcon part didnt make sence. They were at the falcon and in the big trashroom at once? Falcon has more power than the death star? Really beeing funny is great, but that pure nonsense decreased the greatness of this vid.
Great idea, great story, wonderfully beautiful editing,
but (and I keep saying this every time I comment on one of these wonderful presentations), what's up with the volume levels?
I have Magix Movie Edit Pro, one of the Cheapest programs there is,
and I have Volume control! You people spend hours on end putting these
wonderful tidbits together, and you can't take two minutes to equalize the volume?
What program do you use, and why doesn't it allow you to control the volume,
if that's the case?
hahahahaha, funniest debate in history xD
Star Wars is not Science Fiction is a fantastic Western Epacial therefore can not be compared to Star Trek which is really Science Fiction, it is like comparing pears with apples.