Why Miguel O'Hara looks different in SPIDER-MAN: ACROSS THE SPIDER-VERSE?
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 มิ.ย. 2023
- You might've noticed that Miguel O'Hara looks different in both Spider-Verse movies, and guess what? It's not just some random artistic choice. There's a reason behind it. In the first movie, Miguel is all slim, happy, and more lighthearted character. But in Across the Spider-Verse, things have changed for him. See, he's carrying this heavy burden because he caused his family's death in another universe. That messed him up real bad. He's pushed himself to the edge, both physically and mentally. That's why he's got that intense, ripped look now. He's been working his butt off, making himself super strong and imposing. And his suit, oh boy, it's more intense too. It reflects his anger and violence, with those blades that are practically swords. It's like his whole being is distilled into becoming the ultimate Spider-Man, but it comes at a cost. So, next time you see Miguel, remember the journey he's been on. It's made him a force to be reckoned with.
#shorts #spidermanacrossthespiderverse #milesmorales #didyouknow #moviefacts #moviedetails #spidermanintothespiderverse - ภาพยนตร์และแอนิเมชัน
Man grew himself a whole new ass out of anger
This is the comment that broke me
bro 😂
HELP-😭🤚
HAHAHAH
And I'm all for it😊
Spider-Man 2099 gonna be disappointed when he realizes there already is an Ultimate Spider-Man
I think Ultimate Spiderman is based off 2099 so Miguel is him. He’s that guy.
Edit: He’s not that guy.
@@BeansGalaxy He's not that guy pal, trust me, he's not that guy
Ultimate Spider-Man is a bum
That's why he got replaced by Miles 💀
He’s gonna be real mad when he finds out it’s miles
@@BeansGalaxyi think thats spider-man unlimited
“Are those claws? Are you sure you’re even Spider-Man?”
I don’t know why I love this Miles quote so much, I just do.
It's meant to highlight Miguel's canon inconsistency.
I love that dialog actually
I hope they’re gonna expand on this in the third movie. It’s almost like Miguel’s whole thing about Canon Events isn’t “you can’t save everyone as Spider-Man,” but instead it seems more like it’s actually “I suffered and lost my family, so now every Spider-Man needs to suffer and lose their family.”
Same
@@IAMCORNHOLIO420Miguel being revealed to be a petty bitch would be a great twist. Imagine him getting killed by the other Spider-beings. That would be pretty dark.
And no one say that “Oh, this is kids movie.”,
Because it’s already been done in the Lion King, made by Disney of all companies.”
bro went “my whole family died gotta get some gainz now”
I mean, that's what you need to do to get your mind off of it
relatable
He fr hit the gym
he doesn't stick to walls, he digging claws into the wall, therefore he's doing pullups
You’d be doing pull ups even if you stuck to walls? Well ig no help from feet but still
@@imablindunicorn6878true but not as much
Was just going to say this
bro skipped physics class
@@Kyle-lq4bywhat are talking about
“he’s been working his butt off”
literally 💀
I was about to write that lmao
The work paid off damn
Bro does the thug shaker
I love how all of us universally agree that Miguel has a dumptruck 😂
@@tkraid2575 Miguel's dumptruck is a wholeass canon event
😮
"Funny thing about anger, let it consume you and you lose sight of everything." -Leonardo Splinterturtle
Funny guy
@@Aeon-the-Voidmind "can't say the same about you"
@@Spider-Fan006 Dang
Splinturtle, if you will
THIS MAN NEEDS HIS OWN MOOVIE GAH DAYUM
Play spider-man shattered dimensions. 2099 has his own story in it
@@P-Sativum oh ok 😨
@@P-Sativumnah. We need a Sony version. Not a Activision version
GYATTASTIC SPIDERMAN
@@P-Sativumbruh he's trash in that. Play Edge of Time instead
The reason for his muscles is because he doesn't stick to surfaces, he uses his claws to pull himself up so basically he's training everytime he does this
Wtffffff but isn’t Miguel like half spider? Oh- it isn’t canon enough I guess 💀 so he can’t stick to walls
Jkjk
I think there is no difference. Both Peter and Miguel use muscles. I think this is necessary just to convey the character, because Miles is an ordinary inexperienced teenager, and Miguel should scare
All the others use their muscles to pull themselves up as well? Doesnt matter if you stick or claw your way, you still have to pull with your muscles
@@kindcatchanno there is definitely a different, Miguel cannot stick to any surface because his dna was mixed with spider dna, that’s why he takes “drugs” to stop his instincts to bite, hence the scene at the start of the movie. The fact that Miguel can’t stick to surfaces he has to claw his way up, causing him to work harder and gain more muscle, especially in his arms and shoulders. For miles, he hasn’t been Spider-Man longer than Miguel. He’s still learning and he didn’t gain as much muscle as Miguel because he doesn’t have to claw his way up. Miguel literally had to claw his way to miles in the train scene. And he still ran and clawed even more after that, even that by itself was a workout. Miles is also younger, it’s harder for him to gain muscle than a grown adult like Miguel, making them significantly different.
Long story short, they’re very different from eachother, since miles is gonna be the next Spider-Man you notice that Peter Parker isn’t that “buff either” miles might be the same because he still has to fight. Maybe after the “spot fight” miles will train more.
@@joeythething5003 don't know. this theory (or not theory) it seems to me both logical and illogical (on the topic that it is more difficult to climb on claws than on fingers). and I agree with the rest. just the transfer of character through character design has not been canceled. the spot in this movie is a good example of design, because he was an ordinary scientist and he is not pumped up and cool. he is quite awkward the first part of the film. such details are logical and realistic and convey the character of the character. should he frighten or sympathize
“A force to be reckoned with-“
*gets kicked in the face by Miles*
I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT
LOL 😂
HOW DID YOU GET DO MANY LIKES SO FAST
@@ZayShawn_12345 I wonder that about my famous comments every day
Don't awaken the power scaler within me
Because I be starting mad arguments
His back is huge because he is carrying the whole spiderverse 😂
Miguel in Across the SpiderVerse were quite scary and badass IMO..
"He's been working his butt off"
Thats why he has a whole bakery in his back
Hahahaha😐
@@fishcook8849 I know,very funny,m I right? 😐
@@gnf_2.056 definitely not💀
@@fishcook8849 I know😐
But it aint fat, it’s muscle?
Miguel: I tore apart that universe and LOST MY FAMILY.
*Spot giggling in the corner*
Not his family or universe🤣🤣🤣.
@@ExquisiteKinkyCoilssociety rejected him, his family included. So technically he did lose his family.
😭
*Carnage laughing sadistically*
@@ExquisiteKinkyCoilshe be father of this girl and they be his family
You're forgetting he's also sexy, attractive, and even sexier when he speaks Spanish
you talkin bout some pixels on a screen gang
@@strash.that's the same shit as saying "you're feeling some photons in your head" bruh
@@pride7052ay don’t got me wrong he has point tho it’s not like he finna come out screen💀
@@Dannychill well it's the same as obsessing over celebrities cuz they ain't gonna come outta the screen either
@@pride7052 ya but there real people tho not just pixels
He was still buff in the family scene tho
theres a reason why hes so buff, See unlike the other spider people. Miguel wasnt bite by a spider, his dna was mixed with spider dna. Miguel cant wall crawl, so instead he has these small claws on his fingers and pulls himself upwards to mimic wall-crawling. It gives him a physical exercise
EDIT: In the spider society building place there is a place called “Strength And Conditioning” And we saw a peter parker working out there as well also if Tobey Maguire spiderman was bit by a spider and then took a nap and woke up abs and other stuff, what changes this to happen with miguel at a later time?
That wouldn’t make sense bc he would be buff in the first movie if that were the case but nice head canon
Edit: to all the morons saying “tHaTS the CoMIcS lOrE” yeah no shit ik his comic lore i wasn’t talking about his powers i was saying this is not the reason he is so much bigger in ATSV. With this persons logic he would already be that buff unless yall are claiming he just got that buff in a year? Lmao also he is not that big in his normal comics yes he is “buff” but not as big as in ATSV. Its not bc he pulls him self with his strength bc that has ALWAYS BEEN his powers so why would it JUST NOW make him that buff when he has been spiderman for years? Damn use your freaking brains.
@@soraisfinallyhere1305it's not a headcannon that's an actual fact about the character. 😂 reason why he wasn't buff in the 1st movie was cause they reused a model asset from Peter B parker and reskinned it to be 2099.
Yeah, and his interdimensional family already died, being that he visited the old spiderman to recruit him to the spider society.
@soraisfinallyhere1305 that's an actual fact from the comics. He also has organic webs and fangs
Much more like a actual spider lol
Remember. Miguel O’Hara is a Irish-Mexican ‘vampire’ who was never bitten by any spider
He isnt a vampire...half his dna got fused with a spider and spidermans. But during the process his boss made him dependent on a drug. His fangs come from literally having a paralysing bite of a spider
Not a vamp
He's NOT a Vampire.
His Spider-Fangs are literally used only to inject a paralyzing toxin and nothing else.
Really wish people stopped spreading the false information about him being a vampire...
@@TheBluePhantomhe is a vampire. He is not spiderman 2099.he is a inheritor, who kill drink blood of spider man accross every verse and become young. Bro if you know there is literally lots of hints shown like he don't even use his organic web while in the comic he does and has fangs too but here in the movie he is shown so much different . Not likely iam telling that they change him but instead I would say he is not spiderman 2099 . The most Interesting things that is a mystery is the serum injection he took . There is no explanation given for that.(maybe he use that to hid his real self like in Harry Potter goblet of fire. 🗿🗿. He uses something different web which is more likely glowing while comics shows organic and also in the first spiderman accross the spider verse there they showed in the post credit scene that he looks calm and different. Yeah maybe after what happened to him he must have changed but still if you know that he uses fang and nail which is shown in comics too and also being brutal but in the movie he is quite different like he wants to make lots spiderman and also want to let that canon event happen the death of close one. He kept letting it . Something definitely strange. I can't explain here much but there is already theory and hints shown that he is fake. He is not 2099 spiderman.
@@Jcooling23he is.🗿
Miguel carrying his daughter in the video:
"See he is carrying this heavy burden..."💀💀💀💀💀
lol
ironically he was tryna do what kingpen was trying to do
Finally someone knows the reason why 2099 looks different
Yeah, stupid ppl be like:
„Oh He‘S nOt ThE sAmE 😭🤓“
Even before the death of his "daughter" he still has the same bulky body and it's kinda hard to believe he got those muscles from just doing pull ups since he has super strength and also a half spider
@@ChillOne1 Bro trust me, he made a push-up ever time, when he said „canon event“.
@@m.k.6966 aight
Didn’t even know he was in the first one
Bro got that 3 am motivation after his mistake and stayed in the gym till this movie came out
Fun fact, spiderman 2099's suit was originally just a "day of the dead" costume. Basically like a cool latex costume.
This guy is almost starting his villain arc
Bro he looked jacked even in his flash back, it's just an artistic change.
Good observation
Finally someone who doesn't spend 24 hours looking for a theory when they can use their eyes and see it was just a change of design
Or maybe it's just because they wanted to tease him in the after credits scene and didn't have a fully fleshed out model for him yet...
That literally explained nothing lol since he’s in the first spider verse movie, it means his universe was already destroyed why else would he grab miles
@@Jcooling23you’re only adding to their point wym it explains nothing?
Look at the flashbacks of him with his daughter. He already had the big build.
thats literally it. People are too in love with this movie to rationalize that this is the reason.
@@suaieAnd his spider symbol is not the same one from the first movie.
Bruh Miguel is fr now competing with Nightwing for the "best ass of a male comic character" award
"100 push-ups, 100 sit-ups and 100 squats. Then a 10 km run. Every single day."
For 3 years
Im surprised Miguel hasnt gone bald yet
But he still has hair !!
He climbs walls with his claws. That takes a lot of upper body strength. That’s why he’s jacked
He has super strength doing oull ups would be nithing to him
Doesn't matter if you climb walls with magnets or claws it's the same weight. Why does everyone keep saying this its absolutely special needs type logic.
Nuh uh.
Exactly
Even Gwen's Peter are literally Peter B Parker
Lol, I'm tired of people giving these writers a pass
That's not how it works bro
@MrLachapell it might not be that exact reason, but I doubt it's as deep as this short is making it out to be. the writers and animators were probably like, "What if we made him more jacked?" Jacked is intimidating
Every frame of this movie is absolutely stunning
Agree. I just replayed some scene because it just so good
2 words to describe Miguel: absolute unit
So basically it’s “if I can’t save my family, neither can you” type situation between him and Miles
Ssssssort of? That's unfair to put it that way.
Miguel trying to save his family when they were _supposed_ to die, resulted in destroying his home. He doesn't want anyone else to do that.
Sacrifice the one for the many kind of deal, except in his case, he didn't even get to save the one for the many.
@@helpfulDeathgodit’s also not even HIS family.
@@trashboat5388 Well he does take charge of the spider verse so.... only like a tweeny bit
that mixed with “i dont want you to turn out like me by doing this” but he presented that concern/anger in the shittiest way possible
@@helpfulDeathgodI think it wasn’t a “sacrifice one for many” but rather to let things play out as they were intended to. Bc if you don’t you’ll end up making things worse.
bro when miles said "why do yall say atm machine, the 'm' stands for machine"
Real or
maybe the m doesn't stand for machine..
I'm shocked he didn't call out how "Poly Multiverse" is redundant.
Ultimate Spider-Man: Hey I'm the Ultimate Spider-Man!
Miguel is an amazing Spiderman!
With attitude 🕷️
Him then: "Is the goober done yet?"
Him now: "it's much cooler than a watch."
it's not a goober, it's a gizmo
"Ok, sensitive."
This is why I like Miguel O’ Hara is my favorite Spider Man not just in this movie but in comics too.
I don't like Miguel because he was being to hard with miles morales and kicked Gwen out of the spider society and for peter B parker whenever he shows him the picture of a baby he doesn't laugh I know what happened to him in the past but he shouldn't be that hard on Miles
@@mateocruz9931I mean he been through a lot to keep things going normally, it makes sense and it aint easy to NOT take it hard and be easy. With a heavy responsibility it’s bound to happen.
Yeah just anger issues
@@mateocruz9931uhuh cuz he just has anger issues he should get it checked but he's cool💀
@@grayzo16yeah he js kinda lost it
"it reflects his anger and violence,"
Bro just wants to keep the multiverse intact 😢 but people keep forcing his hand
He looked that buff before his alternate daughter died in that flashback footage. I believe Miles caused the rift > Miguel starts recruiting > Miguel breaks his universe > then his daughter dies
Imagine they go back in time and meet Miguel before he started travelling the spider-verse.
He has been working his butt off went to another level
i lowkey wish they kept the original costume, maybe adding the sharper claws and more narrow eyes, but still bulked him up. it feels like they redesigned the whole suit instead of keeping it to the comic/game version
Bruh imagine pissing someone off so much that they legit go bulk demon mode
He was that built before his family got erased, but after into the Spiderverse tho
I think part of the reason why he's more swollen is because he doesn't stick to walls like all the other spidermen do. He has talons that he has to dig in and climb up any surface. So it's always back day for him whenever he climbs
Or the animators changed his design and made him bulky
Sticking to walls with talons or magnets doesn't change the weight. You're gonna fail every physics test in your life with this logic.
He looks like he could fly with those lats
“Sometimes the curtains are just blue”
yea he didn't just cause the death of his family in another universe- he caused the COLLAPSE OF THAT ENTIRE UNIVERSE
all because he wanted to- UNDERSTANDABLY SO- be selfish and have his family back. Poor dude.
It's why I do feel for him when he's going after Miles from his perspective it's mercy to stop the kid from ending up like him and frankly it's just sad :(
@@foxtrot-gamesandwit4475 agreed
He's not real
@@bobrob1825 no shit sherlock
@@bobrob1825 the emotions are real, and the voice actors did a great job of portraying them. Annyways, thank you for the obvious fact that changed the entire world!
Well I mean... He really did work his butt off 💀
Everyone knows that the real reason is hitting the gym was his canon event
"Finally, i found the cure for cancer!"
Miguel O'Hara:
bro that choke slam was definitely racially motivated 💀
He says he’s a force to be reckoned with during the clip of miles drop kicking him 😂
And that kick didn't do shit😂
Spider man 20 99 would beat the shit out of Miles let's be honest
@@alexagt9966he sorta did choke slam him with one hand mid air so yeah if it wasn't for plot he would have smoked miles
He isn't trying to kill or hurt miles but he is trying to pin him down from doing any more further damage and he is holding himself extra more since he is fighting for his family so all the anger is only part of his RAGE OmO
@@echonox7985 he literally through miles against the train with his web. THATS him wanting to hurt him. If he didn't want to hurt miles, he would of done it more a safe way.
I wanna see miguel go back to his old ways before the end of the next movie
“Blades that are practically swords!” Wow, truly one of the blades of all time
But isn't Miguel in the alternate universe just as bulky? Or am I tripping?
You are not tripping people keep coming up with “lore reasons” like minor retcons aren’t a thing there’s no story reason they just made a change to his design to match his character after they fully developed it
Seems to me like alterverse Miguel is an athlete, considering his outfit, which would explain why he's bulky albeit not a superhero.
@@tkraid2575han the theory is busted if he he is just as bulky like that in every world
@@tkraid2575the outfit was just a coincidence, he isn't actually an athlete
Bro took the forbidden pre
The trauma made him stronger but at what cost
His angles and face lines are also sharp unlike the other spider man’s where it’s softer and rounder
When watching his computer screens and telling has origin story Miguel's look/art style goes from a 1970's Saturday morning cartoon style, to his current style when his universe collapses to the one on the screen where he laughs and wipes his face which is also in a different style that reminds me of Miles earth. Maybe Miguel isn't done with trying to find a family like the one he lost but maybe there is one on earth 1610.
But when I rewatched the first movie u can see Gwen’s dad looks different n her best friend Peter.
“Remember if you ever see Miguel again, remember th- to pray and not die”
He doesn’t stick to walls, he has claws, he has different eyes, and Miles quoted “Are you even Spider-Man” They’re definitely setting him up to be the Prowler of his universe
“It made him a force to reckoned wi-“
*Miles In the video posing like he’s from Blue Lock then doming Miguel In the head*
Me: he definitely is alright
You should be a comedian. I had to call all my friends over to show them this comment live. I couldnt text them it. I wanted to expierience the absolute joy on their face when they read the comment. They laughed so hard t your joke they farted. Afterwards we got a couple of beers and read it again and laughed until we fell sleep. In the morning when we were all eating breakfast around the table we would just look at each other and we knew the other person was thinking of that joke again and we started laughing all over again.
Dave Chappelle has nothing on you dude. You are the funniest person ive ever met. Can you teach me how to be funny?
@@steverogers6572thank you
@@steverogers6572idk how to be funny
I just say things and people giggle at them
@@Beck-J-Hagghe's being sarcastic
But in that post credit scene he was building the task force, meaning he had already killed that universe, so it was just artistic choice
The real Ultimate Spiderman is actually in the movie, he is the one taking therapy lol
Man that's why Spiderman 2099 is my most favorite spider verse😁😇
Nah the reason he’s bigger is because he made a strength and conditioning room and probably uses it regularly. You can see it during the Miles chase scene right before they get to the Spiderman holding 2 orange pillars collapsing in on himself.
Hes biggr because the post credit scene Miguel is just a re-skin of Peter B
He also basically has to do pull ups with his claws to climb since he can’t stick so his shoulder area would naturally get pretty ripped over time anyway
Sticking method does not change weight. Glue your fingers and toes to a wall or stick small knives in the wall, weight stays constant.
@@bigboypal never really thought of it like that but at the same time, he still has to physically grip into surfaces to “stick”(although it wouldn’t really affect his shoulders)
@@hyrulesbeedle-supply2057 he does not. He just stabs his talons into the surface (extended by default). His talons are so sharp the resistance of any surface is negligible.
@@bigboypal really I didn’t know, thanks for the info
@@hyrulesbeedle-supply2057 I've learned what "being killed with kindness" feels like today. I apologize for my stern tone. You're a good person. I wish you the best.
My high a$$ hearing: “ sOmE AuTiStIc ChOiCe”
A force to be reckoned wi- gets thrown of building, yeah you still got a little journeying to do my man.
Or its a artistic choice lol
Aniboxfacts: it made him a force to be reckoned with
Miguel: (proceeds to get kicked in the face)
He looks like Dave from that Alvin and the Chipmunks show.
Don’t let your past make you bitter but better
Bro got the kratos treatment 💀
Bro you literally see that he looks the same when he is running with his daughter when the universe is collapsing while his family is still alive so this makes no sense
That wasn't exactly his family. He just entered a universe where he was dead to pretend to be normal Miguel, but since he was too big of an anomaly, the universe collapsed. so his daughter had already died, and he already had time to go through the grief and training thing.
I wish they explained that in the movie
Miguel has been my fav spider man
miguel is just rick sanchez in spiderverse. Change my mind
"Working his butt off" indeed.
I think the new Miguel is an alternate universe Prowler, disguised as Spider-Man 2099. His mask is the same shape as prowler Miles. He has a cape. He has claws. And it’s alluded to multiple times in the movie.
I don't think that's gonna be the big twist, the story really isn't moving towards that direction and Miguel does have a believable story
Nah
Miguel needs his own movie who is with me 👇
Blud is a dorrito💀😭
Also because unlike the original spiderman, he has talons under his fingers and toes, which means he doesn't traditionally stick to walls and ceilings but rather clawd his way along them.
So years of pulling and pushing himself bacl and forth made him absolutely ripped.
Sticking method does not change weight. This logic gets you a front row seat at any special needs class.
@@bigboypal it kinda does, though.
Wan der Waal's attraction is not the same as literally pulling and pushing yourself off of walls.
@@Thunderbolt479 his talons are canonically ridiculously sharp. That + his super strength makes the effort needed to push them in and pull them out negligible.
Bro really developed the demon back from baki 🗿
He just mad that Peter Parker pointed at him in the 1st movie
Gotta say his Across the spiderverse suit looks better than his og suit since at least this time the chest Symblo at least looks like a spider which the old suit doesn't
The Original design is basically his Comics design.
It was never meant to look like a Spider - only like a skull with spider's legs (it was just an artistic choice made by his original writters in the Comics).
The Spider-Verse design is however just a major upgrade and I wish they used that in the Comics.
Because it's like a perfect mix of the things that the Original Suit and the ANAD Suit had, while also adds something new from the Movie Artists.
Uh. Miguel was in the first movie??
In the after credits of the first movie
His theme is more scary then Miguel himself
Bro he’s literally one of my favorite characters from this movie. Him and earth 42 MM…. Fucking beasts.
I don't think his other universe family died in between movies. I think it's suggested that happened even before the first movie.
At the end of the first movie, it seemed like he was about to start recruiting Spider-People. Which meant he was already starting the Spider-Society and was already aware of the risks of messing with the multiverse. It wouldn't make sense that he would live on that other universe and replace his other universe self knowing that.
Exactly, because in the post credit scene he gets the watch, and then in ATSV the opening scene with gwen appears to be happening shortly after the 1st movie bcz of how he talks about kingpins collider, so it makes sense that the family stuff happened, he then learns of what happened on 1610(collider) recruits a few people(supposedly the best 1st, jess drew and a few more?) Then goes to gwens universe and recruits her, then ±16 months later the actual events for ATSV take place. Although it does seem strange from spot's perspective, bcz did he just sit around for like a year and then decide to take on spiderman?
“Carry his heavy burden” I thought he was talking about his daughter 😂
“He’s been working his butt off” well of course he was he got that PHAT ASS GYAT DAMN
Villain are not born, they are made
Yet a teenage boy literally escapes him and a whole spuder army 💀
Its easy to run from a fight lmfao
Can you run from Superheroes who are well experienced? Cuz Miles here escaped hundreds of them, even a T rex and cats are easy to escape so we dont talk about the cat
Also its a "sometimes", "lmfao"
@@JawshMeh you saying that like miles is a regular human or something, miles being able to run from the spider society is equivalent to if you as a person were outrunning an angry mob or something, it's really not that big of a deal,
Then why are you making it, "lmfao"?
My theory is there is another Miguel out there and this is not the same one we saw in the after credits from the first movie.
They are the same people, what do you mean? The animators changed how miguel looks because they found an actual design for him to use, he isn't a different person and he didn't get stronger
@@Mkshabz There are literally multiple versions of every spider man, including Miguel. Just a thought buddy.
He's also been shooting himself up with spider drugs.
He actually got that big because he is one of the only spider men that can’t stick to the wall so he has claws instead so when he pulls himself up it simulates a pull up and that’s why he is so jacked.