The Secret Messages of Spider-Punk Hobie Brown Finally Decoded!
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Spider-Man Across the Spider-verse introduced Spider-Punk Hobie Brown (Daniel Kaluuya) from Earth-138, who speaks in a subtle coded Cockney slang that is filled with interesting new hidden meanings that set up Beyond the Spiderverse! Erik Voss explains what you missed!
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As someone from England I can say I loved that he was trying to decode our slang like it was a foreign language.
Yeah, just wait till he learns that f off can means hundreds of things
Innit
Oyyyy innit
Oy innit bruv
Your slang IS a foreign language to someone who is not from England 🙄
One of my favorite lines is when Miguel is fed up with Hobie, he says "I aint even here" which I think is him admitting he is "not in" the spider society.
Reaching😂
"Spider-Society" is a group forcibly and dramatically established w/o his permission - large super band of sorts, therefore he doesn’t believe in consistency mate
Hhuuuuuuugggeeeee stretch
I completely agree with this assessment! Thanks for the input.
No
Surprised you didn’t mention the part where Miles questions why everything has to happen like that. Jessica says “Hobie you’re not helping”, to which he replies “Good.” I agree that I think he will be a hero, but he needed Miles to question everything and stand up to Miguel to make others stand up to him too.
That was actually my favorite subtle moment in the movie. I like seeing someone else point it out
When they finish the Canon explanation & all the other spider people are entering the room for the intervention, Hobie is the ONLY one not facing Miles. He is either firmly turned around with his feet facing outward or facing the side & has to twist his body to face the center of the room
Hobie quickly became my favorite character due to these little characteristics shown.
@@thesplawnNice choice ! 😄
Its kind of like when youre a parent and you let your kid learn by experiences rather than just telling them what to expect and do
the best hobie contradiction is that he introduces himself by saying his real name, and then 2 seconds later he says he’s not going to give away his secret identity 😂😂
Well, he doesn't believe in consistency
@@Shadow-Shellmy first thought as well reading the comment. 😂
@@Shadow-Shelln comedy 💀
@@c_ultr4965 just kidding
Hilarious! Nice catch!
Hobie is the king of “never let them know you’re next move”
Facts
he really is though to the point of questioning which side hes on.
“I don’t believe in consistency.” - Hobie
frfr
YES!!!!!!!
Also when he says "Its a metaphor for capitalism", its nod to the fact that comics never end/have some kind of crisis every other week because companies need money and the more stories they sell, the more money they make
yeah, on the metanarrative level, the whole idea of challenging the validity of the Canon is a stand-in for trying to break free of popular culture's cycle of repackaging and selling the same thing over and over again at the expense of nurturing creativity and exploring new ideas and stories. Like, sure, someone observing the world through the lens of the anarcho-punk ethos would see an all-devouring black hole as a representation of the very power structure they wage war against, but the writers clearly had something to say about corporate greed and those who push back against it, too.
Mate what’s funny is that his character specifically needed the most time, effort and money in order for animating completion.
@@cyberiagenesisalthough hobie could have existed without capitalism. Capitalism doesn't equal creativity
this line actually had me dying lol
@@twosixradgMe too. 😂😆🤣
Daniel crushed it and hope he gets a lot of time to shine in Beyond The Spider-Verse.
Let's just face the facts. Daniel makes every movie he's in better.
Daniel who
@@MONKEYSCHANNEL327 Kaluuya from Get Out.
@@MONKEYSCHANNEL327 daniel kaluuya
@@MONKEYSCHANNEL327 Daniel Kaluuya, the voice actor for Hobie
I like the idea of a Band. With Hobie on Guitar, and Gwen on Drums, that leaves Miles with Vocals maybe? Given his singing in the first movie, it fits really well.
I know what you trying to say but Miles cannot sing!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
miles could be the album cover art designer or something like that
needles to say I e oh eh 🗣️🗣️‼️
Ofc Miles would learn how to sing after he was in Peter Parker's shadow for that long, he really DID have a good voice so Miles had to best him on that too.
@@thobanikhanyile1994haha. Yep 🤣😂😆
Saw this in a comment on another video
When Hobie is talking to Gwen about Miles’ place in the Spider society he calls her “Gwendy”.
Later when he helps Miles escape he calls him “Peter Pan.”
Hobie is a supporter of Miles and Gwen
I absolutely love Hobie, he’s my favorite Spider in the movie and, love the relationship with him and Miles (especially when Miles was really not sure about him when Gwen was talking about him in the beginning)
Same here
I like how he treats Miles like a little brother. even tho Miles was jealous of him at first.
@@anthonyaguilar8092Thanks to the scriptwriters !
Hobie got some of Gwen.
I liked the subtle things he tells miles even at the end when he does the hands thing infront of him everyone else would think hes saying calm down but hes quietly reminding miles use your palms not just your fingers reinforcing what he said to him earlier after the barrier from the spot fight with gwen and pavitar
As a Brit, I am a absolutely loving the confusion around Cockney Slang. It was my favourite part of the film.
Hobie Brown is such a brilliantly crafted character. From the art, to his dialogue, and the whole execution. Thank you for this video New Rockstars, I feel like this gives Hobie the appreciation he deserves.
He says “I’m just protecting my drummer” which is Gwen. Very cool because Miles answered thinking it was about himself which is crazy because he was anxious to join something but also dope because it shows he looking out for Miles and Gwen
Also what someone else pointed out; when Hobie says "I hate the AM", he's not talking just about the morning hours but also about the AM radio broadcasting :)
Cool
I think most of us knew Hobie was the real MVP of the movie from the jump, I'm looking forward to seeing how he develops... He's the unsung hero and I think he prefers it that way
He’s not a hero. Because calling himself a hero makes him a self mythologising narcissistic autocrat
@@tenidas7064 real talk, but that's what an unsung hero is, someone that does great things but isn't acknowledged as such
Hobie's a real one.
@@bravewater5737 real talk
Agreed 💯👏🏽
This is why writers are so important. And just that human touch. It’s little stuff like this that made this film special
My favorite British slang is we're in a bit of a Barney which is Barney Rubble, which means we're in a bit of trouble
No it is called Barney Rebel.
As a non English speaker this is like pro level English understanding
@@barnyblackwood7899you’re wrong
Oceans 11 taught me that haha 👌👌
Don Cheadle says it to brad Pitt snd the crew and they’re like huh?? And he says “…we’re in Barney… Barney rubble… TROUBLE!!”
“Your not helping”
“Good.”
WAS SO DAMN GOOD
Lessons on how to be a smart ass without being a smart ass. Purely British, might I say. Brilliant.
Hobie was such a good part of the movie, Daniel Kaluya is an amazing actor
Agreed 💯👏🏽😀
This made me realise how layered our culture is, I never knew you guys didn’t have a clue what was going on with hobie😂
I mean I watch a lot of British tv so I figured most of it out lol. I’m about as surprised as you are
When I saw the film in theaters, I really really struggled to understand Hobie, and English is my first language! He just spoke so fast for me that I couldn't keep up (I've been told that people from the American South like myself speak slowly so that might be why)
@@Stardust_456 I mean if you're from South America then no, you speak American English, you wont understand slang from a country you aren't from.
Di'nt av a Scooby-Doo, mate.
It’s layered but authentic- just like Hobie…. I LOVE IT!!!
I knew who and what Hobie was about the moment I saw him. I knew he didn't agree with Miguel and I knew he cared about Gwen and Miles and sees himself like an older brother to them.
Real
this may get mentioned by the end of the video or by someone else in the comments but Miles was singing/rapping in the first movie. There could be an argument for him being vocals in the band Gwen is putting together.
"taking a crap on the establishment I salute you" lol love Hobie we need a spider punk movie
I kind of need a movie just about Hobie. At first I thought they were gonna play him as some rival to Miles but I loved him instantly! Just how cool he was and his own person and took Miles like a little brother. I loved everything about the movie but he was seriously the highlight every time he said or did anything
Miles: "How are you even cooler underneath your mask?"
Hobbie: "I was alway cool"
Hobby: I don't believe in teams
Miles: Aren't you in a band?
Hobby: .... I don't believe in consistency.
Watched the movie 4 times now and every time I catch something new from Hobie - one of the greatest comic book movie characters ever.
The more I learned about Hobie, the more I love him.
“It’s a metaphor for capitalism” is the best joke in the entire movie
I am from England and I must say this was so funny to watch! 😂 It never even crossed my mind that anyone not living in England would struggle to understand what Hobie says!
I don’t think most of had a problem understanding. Just the small majority 😉
As someone from England I also understood Hobie (minus his first sentence)
OKAY WAIT. since we're talking about hobie's slang, i need input on his use of "Peter Pan" and "Gwendy" to address gwen and miles. theres a lot of people on the internet talking about hobie and gwen having a possible love interest, but that doesnt make any sense since hobie has basically rooted for miles since before he even met him, and even so, he treats miles like a younger brother. (hence, "younger from 1610") im also just curious if anyone else noticed the way he seems to be on board with gwen and miles being together because its almost like he uses Peter Pan and WENDY's love interest (like the fairy tale) as a reference to 'love from another world' (i.e. neverland?). some of my friends said "peter pan" could just be like hobie's way of saying miles is a "lost boy" which makes sense, but hobie always has a deeper meaning, right ?
Nah Hobie is the older brother figure, he calls them that because he ships them
I’m also deep down the idea that in the last piece of the soundtrack by Daniel Pemberton we obviously hear Gwen goin ham but the one instrument that hits us with the Spiderverse spider-people motif is a guitar, which in my head canon is signifying how Hobie was the catalyst for the gang to be more on the side of altruism instead of thinking arbitrary rules are the solution, punk as hell
I like this touch!
I love how Hobie is like an older brother to Miles
I really think Hobie is going to want Miles to kill spot (since hobie is actually a killer, at least in his comic) and Miles will choose to not do it (probably at odds with Miles-42)
Hobie as the Prowler in the comics, or Hobie as Spider-Punk in the comics?
@@magnusavidon982 Hobie as spider punk beheaded Osborn in the comics with his guitar
His "Good" is one of the best lines in the movie
I think Hobbie sees his past self in Miles maybe? That's why he's helping him
Can’t wait to see Hobie again in the next movie!
I have never in my life heard anybody over here call a plane, a tarzan and Jane 😂😂😂😂😂
Actually, when I think about it, Hobie was watching Miles's is back the whole time because, according to the movie he had, Miles is back throughout the movie, supporting him and caring about him. Because Hobie was like a big brother to Miles.
What
@@ladiesmannumerouno Hobie was watching miles's back because he care about him I think Hobie is a great friend to Miles I think miles is a great example to Hobie as Hobie is a great example to Miles that is how friends look out for each other.
come again..?
@@MrHaydnSir what do you mean, come again? you come again.
@@ladiesmannumerounohe is also a spider who was supposed to be the prowler
I love how Hobie’s watch opens a portal as unique as him. 😂😂
"Just don't enlist until you know what war you're fighting in" seems Like a snarky call back to Peter Parker in Earth 616 When we first introduced to him in the Marvel Cinematic Universe in the midst of their civil war
Hello! British person here. The actual area of the country that still uses this slang is limited to about 10 square miles in London now. No-one beyond there, unless they're from there, uses it. You want completely unintelligible but still English? Look up Yorkshire slang from round my way haha.
Hobie is my favorite designed character both looks and personality
The thing is that Cockney rhyming slang is anachronistic so is more of a cultural flex. The examples of "apple and pears" or "Arthur J" have gone the way of the dinosaurs as they're not useful. "Scooby" is still in usage as it allows voice inflexion to vary its context. Daniel Kaluuya is using "scooby" defensively which is him protesting too much. But mostly my British ear got a disillusioned tone from Hobie rather than defiance (which is the punk spirit). We're yet to see the full Spider-Punk experience.
I thought the Scooby Doo line was him saying he won't pull the mask off the true villians face for Miles (Miguel?) like they did at the end of SD episodes. He said that's what they'd want him to do as in snitch so they could determine his true loyalty which would put him in the middle more than he should properly be. I thought he was saying that Miles has to figure it out himself to take responsibility over his own situation and free himself not be freed by someone else.
@@mentlinc we'll have to see how much the character does know in the next film. But "scooby" is a common usage figure of speech so I wouldn't draw too much from it.
Looks like Hobie was the most Smartest Spiderman in the Spider-verse
If there is a such thing as "too cool" its Hobie
Just want to continue to shout out the shout outs to the writers and researchers! And your collab pals! Love seeing the bts peeps on the breakroom ❤
Hobie is by far my favorite character of the movie
These vids are so cool, love how much time and effort you guys put in to these 👍
He lives by his own rules as a runway model with a distaste of AM, PM & labels as a rebel and narrisstic autocrat he managed to create A web watch and encouraged Miles to use his venom blast perfectly to depart the society
I think Hobie and Spider-Ham are going to get along great.
If a Cockney ever calls you Berk, be insulted. Be very insulted. It’s derived from Berkeley Hunt.
as a british person he talks normal to me but they did make his accent alot thicker then most people
I love that you included his interaction with Mayday😂😅
Hobie was a bad ass! He put his palms up to remind Miles how to get out of the force field!
Can you please break down The Spot at the collider with Miles in Mumbattan? Spot showed the Spider-Verse to Miles before Miguel did.
Also Hobie was overly excited when Miles broke the "canon event".
Nah he was perfectly excited
That's good. I thought he was just pumped about miles' heroics but now that you mention it I see he was excited about breaking canon.
"I'm heading to the pub for a beer because I'm done." Is that what you said at the end??
You didn't mention how Hobie literally asked miles why he wanted a spider society watch, and then tells him to make his own. Which he does himself later in the movie
"for the record... I quit" G shit
Crazy, Im actually watching ATSV for the 1st time rn 💀
Enjoy peak!
I'm doin my 16th round bruh
Criminal offense side eye 👀
What I think a lot of people skipped over is when they showed the mcu prowler and hobie said I caught this one so where and when at one point did mcu clash with hobie meet and who in the mcu built a possible collider
Tarzan and Jane!? You ain’t got a Danny, mate! Haha
“He may have told us everything we need to know” doesn’t elaborate, talks about random stuff, leaves
Hobie to Mayday: Cow says "moo". Sheep says "beee", pig says "you have the right to remain silent".
This is SOOOOO DOPE!!! I understood everything when I watched it. I was stationed in London from 2000-2003. I absolutely loved it!!
When I watched this movie for the first time, it was Hobie me and my brother only talked about cause of his uniqueness of his character
It’d be absolutely amazing if the third installment in beyond the spider-verse introduces us with Spider Punk story just like Gwen’s
L
Gonna be honest, if they introduce anyone, I reckon it’ll either be Miguel’s story and about why he lost his family in the first place or the spot and how he ended up at the science place
ok i might be overthinking it, but its odd that both Hobby and Dr. Strange refer to Scooby Doo in big multiversal Spiderman movies that also both feature Tobey and Andrew. i may be reading too far into it, but in the Spiderverse movies, there dont just seem to be coincidences
Jinkies
When he said “I don’t like consistency” that was so deep it still went above my head.
I understand everything spider punk said because I live just outside of London in a town called Woking
The line that stuck out to me was when Jessica said "Hobie, you're not helping." he answers with "Good"
Coz Jessica wanted Hobie to help out Miguel... He's helping Miles, so it's "Good" he isn't helping their common enemy!
Like sneaky sneaky-
If you watch Mary Poppins Returns, the "Leeries" or Lamplighters use "Leerie speak" which is exactly that, it's a word that rhymes with the word you mean but isn't the same thing. "Give us your weep and wail" (Tale)
Omg love how Gwen in a drummer, hobie a guitarist and miles likes to randomly sing
After the second movie viewing, it was clear Hobie was the secret hero of the film
Hobie: "Is this the younger from 1610?"
Me: "Uhh, I'm pretty sure Miles is from the 21st century... ohhhh, wait, he's not talking about the year."
A kid find an abandoned house filled with ghosts he later finds out he himself is a ghost
Nothing to do with the video at all
I watched this awesome video breaking down Hobie’s deception and the character depth! It had some crossover with this! Video titled “When a deep character pretends to be shallow”
I talk like Hobie now. My friends and family Really Love It..
of all of my favorite spider characters, hobie b and, regardless of the movie protrayal, miguel are at the top and their portrayals in spiderverse was impressively outstanding! learning the way they used the varying framerates for hobie makes it 1000% better!
I don't think chaos has the right word I would say he's more for Anarchy and it definitely fits with the time in the place from where he's from not to mention the whole anti-establishment thing
true, people that dont understand Anarchism have a hard time explaining it
Hello, Brit here - no-one has ever said ‘Tarzan and Jane’ when they mean ‘Plane’. Also a lot of what the character said wasn’t ‘cockney’ just urban UK. It was great that they went to the effort to get this right
What is cockney and what do you call planes in Britain?
Planes
Hobie's a hero that's such a rebel that makes him likable
Us brits do like our dry comedy.
What they did with cockney slang is what the little mermaid should've done with patois
In America, when you say I'm doing the Scooby doo it means it's time to get the heck out of Dodge. It's about to go down.
Boxing Day was the day after Christmas when leftover gifts and indulgences were “boxed” for the serving class.
Hobie said it himself, he's not the hero. He's gonna be there for support in beyond the spiderverse, helping Gwen and Miles fight their fights, but the way he sees it, they're the heroes, not him.
my favorite spiderman... defiant, cool asf, and a punk rocker 🤟🏾
Im from England and even I couldn't understand half of what he was saying
2:08 As a Brit, I don't think anybody says this outside of Austin Powers
Solidarity with unions everywhere! Power to the people!
If you want another good rhyming slang, you can sarcastically say “You’re having a giraffe” where giraffe rhymes with laugh
In regards to slang... may hear somebody say something like
"If we don't get this done, will be Barney".
"Barney Rubble"....."Trouble"
Hobie is definitely unique, hopefully he will get to have more screentime in the next film.
Hobbie says he hates the am and it rings at 8: am the double meaning in that is so clever.
Their is a rap duo called Pete & Bas that is from that area that rap with Cockney slang. They are two older dudes in like their 70's and are probably the best rap duo out right now.
I didn't have trouble with understanding hobie and I live on the other side of the world
I Love been British! Keep up with the good FISH AND CHPS.(clips!)
Hobbie Brown was the original prowler. I think they’re actually related.
he says "I was THIS cool the whole time". Gimme a job.