Everything Wrong With Sucker Punch In 14 Minutes Or Less
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Sucker Punch. Quite possibly the most incomprehensible and unnecessary movies ever made. So of course it has sins out the ass.
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Hey guys! This video is a re-upload because the original version of this episode was no longer viewable. We’ll be posting these re-uploads every Saturday for the next few months. There are still NEW sins videos every Tuesday and Thursday!
CinemaSins that’s okay
So its not just for the money? good
CinemaSins please do Rush Hour 2 and National Lampoons Vacation
Can you do recket ralph breaks the internet
Please please please do everything wrong with "Love, Simon"! I love your videos so much!!
The biggest sin to me: The head lady had NO IDEA who was responsible for signing the lobotomy order, and didn't bother to check who it was until AFTER it happened. If she'd checked even five minutes before, she'd have gone 'Wait, I didn't sign this, why is this my name?'
BioYuGi She didn’t know until after it had happened.
I must’ve missed that, sorry. I think Gugino didn’t know at all. Especially because Babydoll’s guardian payed Blue off.
Edit: Blue could have secretly signed the procedure papers without her knowing.
Plus a biggie in any medical procedure, especially one THAT F*CKS ABOUT WITH SOMEONE'S BRAIN, is that you _check the paperwork then check it again!_
1:04 that's the stepdad, he got angry cuz the mum left everything to her daughters, who he then targeted. He was attacking the young sister, so Emily Browning tried to kill him. The stepdad needed her gone, so he used the "murder" of the sister as an excuse to have her committed (yes, death by bullet ricochet; that's a powerful handgun being shot for [presumably] the first time by a small, untrained girl. It's not surprising the recoil sent the bullet to the ceiling, which was actually pretty low, AND she was going for a headshot).
I know this is just cynical for entertainment purposes but I love fun trivia, and its a good time to share! WWI Biplanes were so terrible at what they did that they indeed were shot down by handguns. (The more common way was crashes due to technical or pilot error) In fact early dogfights were literally just pilots shooting at each other with handguns or even throwing bricks from the cockpit, and the term "Ace" originated from the time for when somebody actually managed to shoot down a single plane! Not defending the movie, but Babydoll had more of an advantage than most planes in the sky because she was not moving in a pretty unreliable biplane when making the shot.
Really? Well that is a lousy place. But in all fairness to him, shooting down a plane with a handgun seems like bs
technically she down a TRI-plane
Fun fact: Babydoll's sword engravings show her entire story, from the incident at the beginning of the movie, her fantasies, all the way to her lobotomy.
Also, the covered songs in the soundtrack are sung by the actresses so that it can further feed into their mental and emotional states when the song is played in certain scenes. They aren't just covered for the sake of it.
If these small but amazing bits like these don't convince you that this movie had incredible care put into every detail, and isn't just some lazy action movie out to showcase fetishized women, then boy is there something wrong with you. There are so many new details from the sets and the story that you can discover when rewatching the movie several times. It's always a new experience for me each time I watch this movie; it never gets repetitive.
The same thing happens to me with Batman v Superman, another movie hated by everyone. The level of detail in every minimal aspect of the film makes each revision a whole new experience. Snyder is a true expert at it
It may have care put into it, but how in the hell cam u watch this more than once? It’s unlikeable
@@jonahwebster9338 oh be honest you just want to hate on it because you don't understand, how bout this sweetie go watch Cinemawins video. It'll clear up some things for ya.
kimberley williams I literally said that I understand the care and thought that was put into it “sweetie” I’m just saying it’s not entertaining to watch in my opinion “sweetie” I’ve seen everything there is to be seen about this film caz I was very interested in the unique style that it carries but it didn’t hit joke for me “sweetie”
@@jonahwebster9338 Ok sweetie
Sweet pea and her sister are supposed to be baby dolls image of her and her sister getting away.
Well that would be a plot twist that I never considered
WOWWW
Coool
yes, baby doll is sweet peas "guardian" and baby doll plays out sweet pea horrific events through her own way (like losing her sister). and the end where baby doll gets a lobotomy? sweet pea in her mind imagines the lobotomy as her "escaping" the asylum.
I love this movie! I love movies that don't spoon feed you information about what is happening so you have to watch the movie to understand what is going on. This movie has so much symbolism and depth to it that each time I've watched it, I've noticed something new and it changes the way I understand the movie.
No no, the problem with this one was it made you guess, Everything. Literally Everything. You dont need to spoon feed, but you need to give something. I shouldn't have to watch video essays to understand the basic things in a movie.
That's part of the fun. You interpret it one way then u go online n see hw others interpret it
I thought Emily's rendition of Sweet Dreams was perfectly fine.
It was perfect actually, and the song tied very well in the movie and posed as her littery talking to you, as she is telling you her story.
Sin number 80: back in ww1 someone actually did shoot down a plane with a Luger po8 pistol, so...
*sin removal noise*
Well, they shot the pilot, not the plane itself. And to be fair, it could have been an exaggerated, or even, a fake story.
@@namikosai9466 like the movie? it's a fantasy sld have thrown the gun at the plane and blow it up if it's what she wanted
@@namikosai9466 nah, happened in ww2 as well, bailed out us pilot shot down a zero with a 1911
In the beginning of the war pilots and co pilots were only armed with pistols and carbines, since planes were mostly wood and canvas and paper, and they were also super slow, and all you have to do is take out a fuel line or a cable and that plane is done. A lot of planes were shot down by pistols and rifles.
If the character can do the most stupid thing then they mind aswell have her throw a rock and paper at the plane and have it go down.
"why was she sent to a mental institution"
In 1000% of things back then, anything involving women sent them to an asylum
Actually, vibrators. It was usually referred to as “female hysteria” and that was resolved using vibrators, though that depends on the time
The time this movie takes place in is as obvious as any anything else, if it’s the early half of the 30’s at the latest, it’s a decent chance anything would be written off as ‘female hysteria’ so she’s sent to an asylum because she’s troublesome to her parents, similar to the fate of Jackie Kennedy
If it’s later, it’s still probably because her family can’t deal with her acting “unseemly” by being ambitious, having OCD, having anger management issues, sleeping with men frequently, sleeping with women ever, or not being proper enough in the management of her appearance. None of these by this time would be explained by ‘female hysteria’
@@RagingBadger68 that is so sad and terrible
Her mother was killed by her step father for her money... her mother leaves all the money to her 2 daughters and he gets nothing so he turns on the girls abusing them and trying to force the money out of them any way he can... babydoll uses a gun for the first time, its heavy and has a kick so she misses her step dad and ends up killing her sister and her step father uses that as means to put her in the asylum by saying she went crazy after her mother died
Pretty simple, the step dad blamed her sister's death and his own wound on her, due to her trauma from losing her mother. This isn't even interpretation, this is one of the things explained in the movie.
Edit: just noticed the comment above mine says the same thing with more context lol. The only thing that isn't fully clear is whether he killed the sister or her ricochet did.
Those were the days when we knew exactly how to deal with hysteria...
Every time she (also, the other girls) "dances" she's actually being sexually assaulted. She tunes everything out with her imagination, which is common with victims of this crime. They know what happens, but do not remember any details because they learn to mentally leave their bodies. It's sick, but it happens, unfortunately.
"it happens"? No, abuse happens. This movie is a poorly written attempt to use that for drama it can't muster.
@@Dorian-_-Gray Good luck on your crusade to eradicate greed, lust and all the fucked up shit humans are capable of, fucking idiot.
@@bobibobbobino the movie was just plain bad. Like wtf is going on. If it’s supposed to be about sexual assault then it’s crappy. This is a dude fantasy flick👏🏽
Then why the hell is she thinking about sexy dancing, her escapism is written from the male gaze the whole time, would she really want to be fighting in impractical skimpy outfits
@@jgr2637 realistically most people who are victims of sexual assault often do dress in skimpy clothes. Even if a woman hasn't been abused most view it as taking control of their sexuality. It's kind of like 'I don't have to dress in a flour sack for you to respect me, I can dress how I want' 😉
CinemaSins: Exposition! SIN
CinemaSins: Narration! SIN
After watching a sequence of scenes showing what’s happening instead of using narration or exposition...CinemaSins: I don’t understand what’s going on! SIN
Me: haha, no wonder studios continue to use heavy handed exposition and narration
I must admit that after watching SuckerPunch for the first time, I was very confused as to what was going on and which reality was [in fact] real. I gave it another go and finally understood the reason for these multiple realities. In the beginning of the film, it was explained that the Therapist used a specific “Polish Therapy” technique, which allowed the patients to create their own reality to escape their actual situation. The brothel reality was something that the girls at the asylum collectively shared because they were being sexually abused by the staff and it was the only way they could make sense of what was happening to them. The action packed scenes were just a continuation of escaping reality. Almost like a “dream within a dream” shtick, haha.
Regardless, there is still a lot of confusion in this story as you’ve mentioned. Especially, the relationship between the shady Staff Leader and the Therapist… did she actually know what was going on or not? Lol Great video!
That's one way to read it.
I took it that it is about Dissociative Identity Disorder caused by her abusive father (who likely killed the mother and was sexually abusing the sisters in the beginning). She's brought to the mental institution, and we get a hint at what is going on when they are being shown around, and essentially what happened to "Babydoll" is being discussed about the patient "Sweet Pea", who is all alone in the room.
Long story short: all of the girls are personalities of the main character, who we are lead to believe is Babydoll, however....
Likely the majority of the film is actually happening DURING the lobotomy, which is why we get a mix of memories and fantasies going on simultaneously - the lobotomist is literally destroying her brain.
However, I think we see the truth at the end: after all of the personalities have been killed off except Babydoll and Sweet Pea, the Babydoll pesonality sacrifices herself after helping the Sweet Pea personality (the actual main character) get away on the bus, implying that it is still "alive" in what is left of the brain, although unable to communicate with the outside world, it will continue in the fantasy world of its making.
@@HERscourge Dissociative Identity Disorder (DID)
@dh1163 thanks for correcting my phone's correction of me, lol.
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@@HERscourge I really like your explanation on this! This makes a lot more sense. Thanks for sharing! :)
"she runs into the other room which helps me the viewer understand diddly squat" (immediately followed by) "Reveal of the dead mother just in case the viewer assumes that it was their dog or something"... hmm its as if they wanted you to know why she ran into the other room, and understand why... or something
I thought the guy in the beginning was her dad, and the "other girl" was her little sister...?
stepdad
Step dad and sister but somehow the guy doing the review misses simple stuff.
CinemaSins knows it was her stepdad. He says it @3:17
@@brittanyvest5781 So he is just dishonest. Okay.
I know this thread is MONTHS old, but I'd like to mention that NOTHING about CinemaSins is a review! It is literally just nitpicking for the sake of being humorous to at least SOMEONE. So complaining if he 'misses' something, or saying he's 'dishonest' is kinda silly and unwarranted.
CinemaSins: Guy shakes his head "no" and we're supposed to know what that means.
CinemaSins: She runs into the other room in a panic, which helps me, the viewer, understand exactly diddly squat
Also CinemaSins: (in very next scene) Reveal of the dead mother just in case the viewer (you) assumes that it was their dog that died, or something
US: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ya this one just seemed a little obtuse. Love the channel, just not this vid so much
you its jokes right?....he's not here to tell you how to think for yourself, hes a funny youtube man
@@darkroomservice569 what part about it is funny? he is just pointing stuff that happens as they happen
actually laughed
My dear little dweeblet, the movie is terribly written. It sucks.
That’s not the lawyer, it’s their father...
Yeah, I'm not certain it's their actual father but I thought the implication that he was expecting the inheritance and had guardianship over the girls was pretty clear.
gimleey You’re a f*cking moron and probably as dumb as this movie is. Please do not procreate.
@@michaelalexander3078 what was the point of that?
@@Kenzirs He's super mad that someone implied Cinema Sins couldn't figure out something pretty obvious.
davernrush I stand by my comment. The world has entirely too many idiots in it who miss the f*cking point and they should be shamed into becoming smarter or shutting up.
Re-upload!
Time to Re-watch!
Time to Re-like!
Time to Re-comment!
its rewind time
Time to Re-Meme sad Ben Affleck
i'll post this in this thread to because reasons.
re-uploading to garner more views on already dead videos is what this looks like here, i can see youtube making a few videos here and there "no longer viewable" but at the level your re-uploading "NO". your just re-uploading to get more initial views, when you upload the monetization is the largest the first few hours to few days, if you keep re-uploading you get those hours and days back making more money off said old videos. i don't believe for one second anymore that youtube deleted all your videos, GTFO
@@verndelap TH-cam deletes and blocks videos all the time, especially videos with copyright on it. Just message Cinemasins and they may explain it to you.
Copyright is a bitch to us, remember that.
I really loved this movie as a kid. When I first watched it, I was too young to FULLY understand what was happening, like the meanings behind everything. This is definitely a movie you need to watch a couple of times to grasp what is actually occurring. Even as a kid though, a bunch of stuff made sense to me. Like the fact that all the "battles" were in her head. As I've gotten older however, I've come to fully appreciate the movie for all of it's meanings. I dunno, it's just. It's really not that hard to understand some points. Like if an 8 year old can understand SOME of the meanings, I'm pretty sure the rest of you can. Again, this is a movie you need to watch multiple times to grasp everything. After learning the full meaning of movie, I re-watched it and I was left fucking stunned. It's a great movie and people shit on it because they blaze through it once and never look back on it.
I don't want to watch it one time. I didn't want to watch this cinema sins recap.
I remember enjoying all the fight scenes as a kid but you definitely need to come back multiple times to piece together everything which is sadly a double edged sword. They did alot of cool symbolism but failed on granting the viewers needed context making it hard to follow for the average viewer. Really cool concepts and delivery in every area but the writing team could've tried to make things a bit clearer for casual audiences
@@animaljamfan10the cinematography was the star, and that's the problem
This movie always reminds me of the anime Black Rock Shooter.😊 The concept of all the battle happening on her head/imagination is all in point. Makes me think that they got the idea from Black Rock Shooter😊
This movie was simply a cynical rip on Japanese anime about fighting high school girls annihilating evil aliens/men. Mecha cartoons with school girls is a big form of porn in Japan.
I think I could really dig this movie just because it reminded me of Black Rock Shooter
Multi engine planes can fly for miles with only one engine/propeller, this is routinely practiced by multi engine pilots. One sin for Cinema Sins.
Also this B25 ish plane had 2 engines, the left was the regular propeller engine and the right was a jet engine.
@@MynDonos2 that would be interesting... different fuel tanks (Avgas/Jet fuel) and two WAY different thrust ratios on each wing. 😂
@@harpastanman8952 LOL for sure that would be interesting to fly, it always made me wonder what kind of power difference there would be between the 2 engines.
AKA "Redundancy"
@@MynDonos2 well I mean even a turboprop engine would still become nothing but drag for the jet engine... or the turboprop would be redlining the whole time, not good.
I actually thought that this movie was a fever dream. I was so confused after watching it. And then when it was over, could not remember anything that happened.
You're right on that account. And it had such big hype.
A maybe you’re just lacking brain cells??
@cinemasins
man in beginning is the father or step father and he commots her bc her mom left her everything instead of him so he commits her under blame of sisters death. the rest of the movie is in the asylum. the play and all the other setting adjustments are symbolic representations of her repressing all the things going on the asylum to the girls. they are sexually abused so everything takes on the whore house feel. the whole play aspect is due to the therapy sessions we see in the beginning. all the characters shown during the intro of the asylum reappear in each of the crazy aside stories. in the end she sacrifices herself to save another person and lets herself be labotomized
the "dancing" is how she internally repressed her sexual assaults, shes basically imagining the sex scenes as dancing and when it gets too real for her it falls further into the big battle scenes. we know this due to the seducing the cook scene
whole movie is a 2 layer mental repression of reality being represented by over the top symbolic fantady scenes
the movie is hard to follow without multiple viewings because after all its from the perspective of a mentally disturbed patient thats trying to cope with the accidental death of her sister (redemtion through saving another), the abuse and forced imprisonment by her father figure who didnt even care about the mother dying as much as the will, being forcibly institutionalized in a place full of abuse both physical and sexual, all under an escapist mental state while still trying to be present enough to actually escape or help an escape. she lets herself be used and abused to help the others bc the guards seem more interested in her "dancing" (sexual abuse and focus mostly from being the new girl). it also appears that when the main doctor isnt around they let ppl pay to whore them out. the dr is mostly unaware of this and thus it continues, also why they visualize her as being not in charge until the end. she visualizes him in charge due to him being the source of her abuse
Good interpretation. That's how I saw the "dances" as well when I first viewed this movie.
That's not hard to understand.
The thing is, this is not a very complicated thing to transmit to a spectator but the movie is confusing the message for no reason. (For me, how each layer is interconnected didn't feel right.)
And the themes of the layers of dream are all wrong, it's a paper thin excuse to indulge in pg-13 sexy stuff & have fantasy slowmow battles.
You can have a damn 10 feet tall armored samourai and a deep felt message about child abuse in the same movie, but sucker punch is not ... let's say japanese enough.
Thank you
I like and agree with this analysis, but if it's true I think the filmmakers could've done a better job telling that story, even using the fantasies.
Yup. A lot like Wizard of Oz such that Dorothy was just unconscious or Jacob's Ladder. Whole Sucker Punch was a coping introversion that's layered.
Sucker punch was one of the best movies I’ve ever seen and this video will never change my mind
I don’t about you guys but I loved/love this move especially the soundtrack and the fight scene it was awesome. ♥️🤷🏻♀️
Arwa Mekasa same! I think this movie is super underrated.
@Washmyballs and I think you are a misogynoir with no common sense or insight, but hey, you don't care what i think and neither do i you.
Everything wrong with Pulp Fiction.
I dare you.I double dare you.
Edit:1k likes!:O Didn't see that coming.Thank you guys!
Schindler's List would be a better dare
*I give my mother a foot massage, there ain't nothing wrong with a **_F O O T M A S S A G E_*
Lets put this comment on top hahahahhahaha
There's plenty
What??
This involves sword-wielding schoolgirls, a mech, dystopian settings, and a nuthouse, but ISN'T an anime. *Ding*
Or a good movie for that matter
@@DemonShinobiX is there really any good movie tho
@@tiviboxkhachhang1321 anything else lol
The entire premise of the dance being replaced with action scenes was the metaphor that the sleazeballs and abusers who are getting off to Baby Doll's dance in the film were stand-ins for the nerds at home/in the cinema who get off to anime girls doing crazy fight scenes... That's the Sucker Punch >.>
This film was a great concept. However things like the monologue from the High Roller which is only in the Directors Cut really should have been in the primary release version simply because they give some level of depth to other disjointed actions (the monologue is why he freaks out that Baby Doll wanted him to lobotomise her). Despite having a great concept it lacked in execution sadly.
The brothel is an invented reality of Baby Doll's to cope with the fact that she and the other girls/women in the mental institution are being abused by the male staff (this is shown by the fact that the male staff/visitors to the brothel have counterparts in the institution).
Yeah. I kinda always interpreted it as her dissociating to escape her life. First into the brothel to rationalize her situation. Then into a place where she doesn't feel so helpless and can fight. I'm always surprised more people didn't get that. Especially considering the rampant abuse this girl has likely seen and experienced at the mental institution.
I think the real sucker punch is that this movie uses hot girls in sexy clothes to pretend it is making some deeper statement when it is actually just cashing in on the fact that the entire movie is just hot girls in sexy clothes...
I think guys who use real life girls for pleasure in places like brothel and people getting it from a imaginary non existent fantasy character are 2 different things entirely
So if the brothel is imaginary then aren't the guys who are getting off to watching her dance also imaginary? And does that mean that she actually helped one of the girls escape? Or did she imagine that she did?
Because a movie who's purpose is to sucker punch nerds that like action scenes with girls seems like a pretty pointless movie, especially since it's too unclear to unstand that that's the intention. It's not a sucker punch if nobody knows they're being sucker punched...
@@NadoKahn wow you comment made no sense and you got none of this movie lol it was hard to even read.
Hi. I watched a few arguments for and against the validity of this film. I must say that you sir got it wrong. Most of your quibbles are needless. The film is a better story with more complex layers than inception (which was portrayed as something far more complex than was delivered) and better visually than most. The sexually provocative themes serve the deeper narrative of claiming a womans sexual appeal and utilizing it for personal gain in the way a man would use his physical capacities to dominate those around them. Not exactly meritable for either gender but it has relevance nontheless. 138 reasons to show how you were not intelligent enough to grasp the modus of this film.
or, its just a bad film
@@ruskibot7745 crazy Snyder fan
I love the music in the movie. Together with the cinematic effect is so dreamy
This movie was pretty great. Confusing as hell to be sure, like "the writer was on shrooms when they made this" levels of incomprehensibility. But from an artist perspective, it's a kick-ass movie.
*She's 20?!?!?* You don't know how much this changes the plot for me.
Me & my family thought this was a movie filled with 16-18 year olds forced into prostitution-like situation in which they're forced to dance (etc.) to Pedo Rich Folk. And the dreams was this young teenagers way of coping.
In fact, I think the stepfather lied about her age, I understood that when I watched the movie.
She is underage in the movie, her stepfather lie about her age so she can enter mental hospital and being kill
Being attracted to 16+ doesn’t make you pedo. Even in some states in burgerland 16 is the age of consent.
man in beginning is the father or step father and he commots her bc her mom left her everything instead of him so he commits her under blame of sisters death. the rest of the movie is in the asylum. the play and all the other setting adjustments are symbolic representations of her repressing all the things going on the asylum to the girls. they are sexually abused so everything takes on the whore house feel. the whole play aspect is due to the therapy sessions we see in the beginning. all the characters shown during the intro of the asylum reappear in each of the crazy aside stories. in the end she sacrifices herself to save another person and lets herself be labotomized
the "dancing" is how she internally repressed her sexual assaults, shes basically imagining the sex scenes as dancing and when it gets too real for her it falls further into the big battle scenes. we know this due to the seducing the cook scene
whole movie is a 2 layer mental repression of reality being represented by over the top symbolic fantady scenes
the movie is hard to follow without multiple viewings because after all its from the perspective of a mentally disturbed patient thats trying to cope with the accidental death of her sister (redemtion through saving another), the abuse and forced imprisonment by her father figure who didnt even care about the mother dying as much as the will, being forcibly institutionalized in a place full of abuse both physical and sexual, all under an escapist mental state while still trying to be present enough to actually escape or help an escape. she lets herself be used and abused to help the others bc the guards seem more interested in her "dancing" (sexual abuse and focus mostly from being the new girl). it also appears that when the main doctor isnt around they let ppl pay to whore them out. the dr is mostly unaware of this and thus it continues, also why they visualize her as being not in charge until the end. she visualizes him in charge due to him being the source of her abuse
@@decentsizedballs Then what do you call a middle-aged man paying Top Dollar to see a 16-17 year old dance half-naked? ...... other than "weirdo" 😂
Movie Sin Tally: 138
Sentence: What the hell did I just watch? I have no, idea but apparently it was a movie.
I don’t understand it either
And it was so very long and arduous. Not even that many hot women could make it worthwhile.
This is the first time I’ve disagreed with cinimasins. I love this film. It totally makes sense. I don’t understand how you don’t get the film. Sorry bout it
I'll be watching it again today... I don't remember much of the film after waiting to see it for so long. Only thing that made me think of it today was hearing Army of Me by Björk
Despite it's flaws, this remains one of my favorite movies
I honestly like this movie
Me too
Same. I have a poster of it in my dorm room.
Most movies the cinemasins guys sin are videos they really like, but no video is without sin!
Me too. She's sexy
This made me rewatch the movie and I STILL love it!
so wait.. is it a "Mental illnesses are misunderstood" or "Old mental hospitals were horrible" or "Traumatised female grows to be stronger" or "female quest action" movie...? Im soo confused.
And more than anything. How did this movie connect all these things while making any sense?
Sinley the story is set in the 60's when women's rights were not a thing yet lol, this movie is about everything wrong with society mixed with fantasy scenes. It is aesthetic mixed with breaking free from the objectifying eyes of society treating women as sex objects.
Tiziana Sanchez I thought it was the 50s. Either way, you’re right. The psychological complexities that this movie has could be an entire thesis paper for a film or psychology class.
This movie depicts maladaptive daydreaming.
@@tizianasanchez1429 except the film treats them as sex objects the entire time.
Okay so y'all obviously didn't understand this movie the movie isn't about baby doll or sweet pea because they are the same person baby doll is the body while sweet pea is the mind, The whole story is in sweet pea's mind at the beginning babydoll's sister is killed a reflection of rockets death then there's the part where blue says "once I'm done with her she won't even remember her name" like sweetpea now who doesn't remember her name at the end when sweet pea leaves in the bus it's her mind that's gone to paradise and there's nothing blue can do to her her body (babydoll) that will hurt her.
Now rewatch the movie with this prospective and everything will start making sense
Also if y'all want deeper understanding watch ''You don't understand Sucker Punch" by ASCseries
If I have to watch an instructional video after watching a movie so that I can understand the movie I just watched, then that movie has failed as a movie.
@@cristiancardenas8002 if you need a movie to spell out everything for you then you have failed not the movie, so many people trashed it for not attempting to understand what actually was going on and the symbolism and messages
Aya labnine just because all the crazy shit is symbolic doesn’t make it good symbolism.
THERE IS SO MUCH WRONG WITH THE BEGINNING OF THIS EPISODE THE SET UP OF THE MOVIE IS JUST ABOUT THE CLEAREST PART OF THE MOVIE OMFG
Some parts are clearish, especially if you're watching for the second time and get that it is a bit of inception dream within a dream within a dream stuff but we never find out who shot the sister or what the step-father did to the girls or how insane BabyDoll actually was and whether we can trust a story from her point of view at all.
Yeah I'm usually agreeing with cinema sins but this time they just took everything even the clear stuff and sinned it to make the movie seem worse than it was.
@@ceejaeey4514 The movie is a cynical take on Japanese anime shows of school girls turning into whores/fighting machines with Mecha junk.
@@emsnewssupkis6453 if you believe that then you truly didn't understand the film, you sound like everyone else who just understood it for what literally happened
Aya Labnine nope just a shitty movie. Please stop trying to justify it as some art house film that only smart people can understand. This was a shitty movie and if you have to spend time explaining how awesome it is or spend too much time filling in the blanks, it’s time to give it up and call it what it is.
So, I recognized this as a reupload right away, just from hearing the way he said "Narration."
Idk if that means I watch too goddamn much CinemaSins or what.
Please do what happened to Monday.
One of those movies that has a very cool concept, but it lacks in execution. Underused potential is the worst form of bad!
I love this movie. Definitely flawed but I think the way the use of music in the action choreography was brilliantly done. The plot doesn't really make too much sense but it has its own internal logic. And the performances are surprisingly good. This was the first time I'd ever seen Oscar Issac and his star power was shining very early in his career.
@@reshpeck The director's cut is also a lot better. The theatrical cut excised most of the scenes that give the film any meaning.
@@KthulhuXxx Yeah, when I see Sweet Pea in the sunlight for the first time stollen the clothes... well, the original version is less significant without that little things
WTF! Wicked music, amazing action & fight scenes. Guess we all see things differently.
That's why I can't stand film critics, their taste are not my taste.
@@966Mako I don't understand too, but well, the world is full of people, we can't expect that all were the same, but well, if I like something, I don't care what others say (well, just a little...)
I have to disagree, I love this sound track.
Agreed .. fantastic
No no no no
LMAO
Covers are alllllways better than the original. Who needs all that passion and whatnot that goes from a musician to their own music. Better have someone less talented and less in tune sing it. That's better.
dynomar my man I never once said I didn't like the original music, you jumped to conclusions so fast
I'm so f*cking confused right now.
I actually like this movie
Same
Same
This movie is really underrated. More people should watch it. It's really not hard to follow if you're paying attention.
It’s rated just fine. I don’t think everyone wants to see women getting almost raped for 2 hours
Nor do they wanna see wasted potential.
All those action scenes and fight scenes could've been made separate movies.
Yet we get the abused girls dancers and such focused movie.
We don't even see her dance all we see if this so called dream thing.
I don't understand why people feel so uncomfortable when the rape is not even shown in the movie. It is just implied. As if rape is not so common that one women is being raped every 8 minutes😮
I firmly believe this could’ve been an AMAZING movie it it had been done better. A girl in a terrible situation retreats into her own mind where she’s faced with a similar harsh reality BUT she has a means of escaping the fake reality, unlike the true reality. So she makes up this part about dancing that she’s really good at, but she’s not actually a good dancer in the true reality, so instead she envisions them as fight scenes because those are easier for her to choreograph in her mind (same here) which leads to the various third realities. If the movie ended with her winning the day in all three realities, that would be a really cool twist. And if not, it would be a Fran Bow ending, where she retreats fully into her imaginary world with all the other happy orphan stripper-dancer-fighters.
I feel like this guy didn’t even watch this movie
So?
Ulises Garcia Sucker Punch is so underrated and misunderstood, im glad some people understand and appreciate it. It was clearly not made for everyone
@@tizianasanchez1429 why do people always say that, i don't get it. a movie is supposed to be entertainment, but i don't want to have to do a lot of metaphysical thinking about a movie.
demonpride1975 what about inception and all the mind bending genre of movie out there? it isnt because you dont appreciate this kind of movie that you have to ruin it for others
@@tizianasanchez1429 if a video like this ruins the movie for you, did you really like the movie to begin with.
I just found the film very sad. Everything was subliminal to real horrors that were occurring (the fight sequences representing actual violence being committed on the girls and then not winning but imaging they were) only to be confirmed at the end (depressing as hell). Yet somehow unique that in her madness at killing her sister when trying to save her and becoming insane, she manages to save another girl before finally giving in to the idea she won’t have to experience or feel anymore of the world she’s trapped in. Pretty f’d up film. I did not consider it a badly made film, I was just surprised they would want to tell such a sad story, and use such cliche action as a way to trick people into experiencing that sadness. Didn’t realize so many people didn’t recognize it, it hit me near the end and I was kind of upset at having to had to watch that yet impressed. I guess that’s a good thing people don’t usually see that. Maybe I need therapy. :-(
A handgun could take out a WW1 plane.
A plane with 2 propellers or more is usually designed to be able to fly with only one engine in case other engines or propellers are taken out.
You are correct. Orc, elf, and dwarf are all from mythology, so anyone can use them. Hobbit, Nazgul, and Ent are all words made up by Tolkein, so those are copyrighted.
Usually you're pretty on point CC, but you clearly didn't understand this movie at all. Most of these sins are complete bs.
zef sku yeah I agree, most of these make sense when you actually watch the movie. This video was just hating the movie not actually examining it.
He just didn’t understand the concept of the movie.
I loved this movie so much I own two Blu-Rays of it I bought as soon as they came out. Seriously, my late wife, and I, loved the mind fucking the movie gave. If a movie made us think and pay attention or get lost then we generally loved it.
He did a cinema wins of this and you can tell he does get it, think he just did this for the sins
Neo Cream yeah probably
Neo Cream He doesn’t do the Cinema Wins, that’s run by someone completely separate from Sins
I will always remember going to see this movie in theaters and this guy sitting a few seats in front of me, mid movie, got up and went around to everyone just to ask if they knew wtf was going on. No one gave him an answer.
Clearly its Matilda but rehashed for older viewers
"I've been watching this thing for 5 and a half minutes and I do not know what is happening in this movie, Does that say more about me or this movie". Well, you. As fucked up confusing, metatextual, implied, imagined, and otherwise confusing mess of a movie that this is, the opening is almost the only thing that does make sense. It's getting to the point where I dont know if you are joking or not.
This review makes sense if, while you watch this movie, you are incapable of inferring anything from context and you forget everything you see a mere two seconds after you've seen it.
This is the first time I've ever really sat here and within in the first two minutes asked myself, "...Are you playing dumb about the plot, or are you really that dumb that you can't follow a 'show, don't tell model'?" Like, it's pretty straightforward. Don't get me wrong, I love nitpicking things I like, and I don't have any strong feelings one way or the other about Suckerpunch. But it's one thing to point out flaws, goofs and overused tropes, and another to be deliberately obtuse.
It's just a really badly explained movie. If you can't understand the movie taht is on the movie, not on you
@@popstar2011ify Especially when a lot of the advertisement portraying it as an action movie
@@desuordie4856 Yeah. This movie was a lot of nonsense.
Dude.....this movie is so f@#*%$g stupid it's ridiculous. Their's practically no plot to talk about.
"Like, it's pretty straightforward."
I have a question for you: Can you point out in the movie where it's explained WHY during her first dance she's in what appears to be a Japanese monastery being handed a sword and gun to fight 3 giant samurai? I mean, why does it take that form specifically?
This video reminded me why I don't watch cinema sins anymore. "Fire is the only distraction" yeah, there is the sign 3 seconds after your cut that shows "all doors open in case of a fire". The shit is that isn't even their fault. They need to make 15/20 minutes long stuff, or the algorithm kill the channel.
The first few minutes of movie was enough to know that it is a masterpiece
facts
No...
100%!!!! This film is GENIUS
@@EdwardCullen667 It was total trash.
The first few minutes were the only good bit as far as I'm concerned
"That's like sleeping on a pile of takeout boxes"
Why are you critiquing my lifestyle?
I've not seen the movie, though your summary seems apt...I'd just add, that Emily Browning really shines as an actress in American Gods...its good to take interesting and risky roles.
Mike W Watch the extended edition. Cinema Sins did not assess this film correctly.
Not gonna lie, I'm still confused
Juan Jimenez Look online for answers and watch the extended edition. So much is explained. The concept is similar to that of inception in that multiple dimensions exist within the world of the film.
@@okaymiguel except inception only made one thing unclear, if at the end the reuniting of the family was a dream or reality. Thats how you let a movie provoke thought and have roon for discussion. Only discussion after this movie fr fr is "i guess no of its real". If we drop the action and only have "the story" part of the movie its like 25 min and it might be better and thats saying something. They need to extend the cut on the whole production team pay after all this
@@y.o.thefirerat2655 the ending of Inception is real. He was able to see his children's faces, unlike in other dimensions where he can't. Also, Michael Caine is in it (the airport scene), and Nolan told him that, whenever he's in it, it's the reality.
This is the second movie I'm (sorta) seeing Jena Malone in, and she's basically playing the same character XD Like, her Hunger Games character is seemingly the exact same as this one haha
Kieran Campire She’s beautiful in Donny Darko.
The movie is quite complicated, but does have a deep meaning, when i watched it the first times i didnt get it either, but the movie is freaking awesome!
Btw im still waitintg for the main character (the girl with the sword, who always danced, i forgot her name) to play Alice in a American McGees Alice and Alice Madness Return Movie, the only game based movie i would legit watch!
Aceu Emily browning :) and I didn’t get the movie until I watched it back a second time and everything just started clicking and making so much sense. It gets so much hate because of the girls are dressed and the different settings but it’s really smart in a lot of ways
@@BroadwayPenguin When i watched the movie for the first time i didnt get ANYTHING, i just thought it looks really cool, but when i watched it for the 2nd time it clicked for me too, i think its an amazing movie!!!!
I admit I only played Madness Returns, but I wouldn't be excited to see them made into movies, with how movies are today.
2:48 i LITERALLY said as i watched this movie “this is based off of a book/comic book right?no??”
If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything.
I stand for falling for everything
I fall for everything standing
...Madonna
The movie makes more sense if you search for a cut scene at the end , it's with the doctor and it basically shows the movie is about taking control of your body and that it is still your choice
Everything wrong with Pan's Labyrinth. Still waiting.
This video screams: "I did not understand the movie."
Which is not surprising, since it's on the CinemaSins channel.
@Iafiv Iv Did you make the video? If not, then this comment wasn't about you.
You can think the movie sucks. But you shouldn't think it because of some made up errors and an inability to follow the story, as demonstrated in this video.
In terms of me being "easily impressed", I'd like to direct you (a CinemaSins subscriber) to Matthew 7:3-5.
5:30 every time i see this i just imagine her yelling "BANKAI!"
Which means nothing to most of you, but some of you are now never going to not see that exact thing lol
Did really like the movie at the time and still like it.. I dont know much about movie making but its a original idea and some of scene are great i like the l.a noire / anime / crazy shit vibe this movie have
Jean-Felix L'archevêque vibes dont equal good movie this is a terrible movie nothing about it is good in the slightest
I also enjoyed the movie and still one of my faves
@@desantinotafrancesco869 "I don't like this, so nobody should like it!"
Your logic is irrational and inhuman. Go take an education
Daniel Kemnitz il agree with you that my logic is indeed irrational but if you took the time to watch the movie as i did or watched this video you would realize that i have no reason to mention why this is a bad movie since the amount of sins and the points he makes clearly tell everything i would say even someone of low intelligence who watched this movie would realize it is in fact very bad also i don’t appreciate you challenging my intelligence lol since you know nothing other than the statement i made which i can also say is irrational and makes you seem foolish and mad so il end this on a have a good day
Frankly I think this movie is brilliant, it gets better on each watch as you connect dots and come to understand the plot. People who think this movie is bad probably aren't people who have any patience to understand the storytelling
When she first arrives at the hospital and Blue and Stepfather are talking, Babydoll is listening to the doctor up on the stage - everything she says sets the stage and foreshadows the rest of the movie.
Of course, if you are hyper-literal and not to quick on the uptake like the narrator of this video, you will miss it.
When I was a sub I gave one of my classes this thought experiment: "Goku and Flash are going to race from LA to Manhattan. There's someone in LA and someone in Manhattan to watch the race. Goku teleports with instant transmission, and the Flash takes 3 seconds to travel back in time to arrive in Manhattan the second before the race starts. Who wins?"
I let the class talk about it and went back and forth with them discussing their ideas.
The WHOLE FUCKING TIME there was a girl in the back of the class FUCKING CHANTING "no one cares." Read the room. People obviously care. You don't speak for everyone. You've apparently made it 14 years without learning the concept of "0."
My point is, a stuck up diva being so drunk on her sense of self-importance that she can't register the idea of someone having differing interests than her own is probably the most realistic thing in this movie.
1:40 Sometimes you don't want to understand the plot, right? The father-in-law is angry because he doesn't get anything from the death of his wife, he kicks the little girl in the room he just opened and thus she has a bleeding wound
9:14 I'm so in love with that reflection of her mouth. Rewatched it 10 times.
This movie was a gem , everyone is given something , choose your reality .
I first saw this movie when I was probably 13 and understood the plot perfectly I don’t see where the confusion is
I've watched this movie and usually I remember what I watched when looking at CinemaSins. but I have no idea what this movie is about. Nothing is making any sense.
The lawyer is not a lawyer is her step father and this movie is one of the best movies ever
Yeah I was thoroughly confused after watching this movie, and people explain the background didn’t help although it is a cool ass movie I enjoyed it
Not everyone has the mental flexibility to understand things that aren't explicitly spelled out. You must be able to remove yourself from the reality of this world, and allow the rules of the fantasy world you are watching to steer your understanding... Not for everyone
@@donlackie911 Facts
*SUCCer Punch*
Aaayyyyyyyy
At 1:47 the words diddly squat are said. Diddly squat was the title of the 112 episode of stampylonghead's Terraria let's play series.
@A Girl Has No Name I assume you mean "stop the copy pasting of comments" however I believe it's important to get this extremely important message to the people, by any means necessary.
Do ya mean, ZUCCer Punch?
I don't remember half this movie. I fell asleep in the theater and that is something I had never done before. I was that bored.
bryan diaz varela well it probably distracted you so that’s pretty good
“Mute the color, mute the characters, mute the story”😂! Cinema Sins you are on 🔥.
7:37; this actually happened in WWII with that same handgun. The 1911 was a brilliant design by John Colt. So good in fact that it has not change at all except size. In the Pacific theatre, a US pilot was shot down. He mannaged to get out of his plane and deploy his parachute. On his way down he drew his 1911 and shot down a Japanese Zero. The only difference is, the real incident involved the pilot being shot not the plane.
John Colt? It's John Moses Browning buddy
@@blackjack3599 yeah I know and SAMUEL COLT. I had forgotten.
This movie is my guilty pleasure for all the wrong reasons.
very weird thing to say for a movie about rape.
Technically its a movie about how if you're afraid of rape you should help everyone else and let yourself be killed.
It's movies like this one that makes me laugh whenever I hear about the Snyder Cut!
Your loss🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
he did not even understand that movie 💀 why does he think he’s entitled to talk shit about it
I went from watching this on my TV to watching this on my laptop... because I have to Sin the Sinner... so here it goes:
Sin 1 - "This guy shakes his head like we're supposed to know what it means." (Not 30 seconds earlier you see a frail and obviously dying mother in another room with the Doctor. Had you paid attention instead of groaning about the music, you would have seen it.)
Sin 2 - "Um... this is the same angry Lawyer who just got p*ssed at some dead guys will, right?" (Wrong, it's the Stepfather. He was written out of the will because of how abusive he was, so everything went to both of the Daughters.)
Sin 3 - "His immediate thought it to go rape some boarding house girl?" (Wrong again. First off, Stepdaughter. Second, not rape, kill. Just because someone grabs someone's shirt and tears it in a struggle doesn't mean they intend to rape.)
Sin 4 - "Then he turns around, to go rape someone else." (Ugh... the other stepdaughter. And again, not rape, just kill. If anyone paid attention to laws these days, you'd know that if both girls were to die or be otherwise incapacitated he would stand to inherit everything.)
Sin 5 - "And that one guy is kicking something." (Please... now you're stretching it. You SEE the younger girl shut the door and lock it. He's kicking it in. You might be bored, but please keep up.)
Sin 6 - "She's a Stormtrooper level shot. She is 5 feet away from a pretty large man, and STILL misses!" (She missed intentionally. Throughout the course of this movie one thing remains constant: She is opposed to hurting people... in reality. Not her day-dream sequences.)
Sin 7 - "So did the bullet ricochet off the light bulb..." (Let me stop you right there. The Stepfather killed the little girl, not the bullet. You've seen so many movies of questionable quality sometimes I wonder if you don't start off with your belief strained from non-suspension.)
Sin 8 - "I have no idea what story these two individuals told police..." (Growing up in an abusive home, it's not a stretch for the true assault victim to get blame laid on them by the abuser. In fact, it's common for abusers to be very charismatic as it is a mainstay staple to avoid getting caught.)
Sin 9 - "I have no earthly idea why she's being committed." (Because she's being held for psychological evaluation. Her mother dies, and within 10 hours at most her sister ends up being killed. She gets the blame and is projected as a danger to herself, possibly believed to be having a psychotic breakdown which actually explains the rest of the movie. I'll give you the TL;DR version: She is having a psychotic breakdown and disassociates herself from reality, and as things get harder for her she ends up retreating even further into herself.)
Sin 10 - "What the fuck is going on? No seriously, what the fuck is going on!?" (I'm just going to spell this out for you: The setting is actually 1950, and lets just say that the Mental Health facilities aren't exactly the best. In fact, it was an unfortunate truth that faculty often raped, abused, and mistreated the Mentally ill. I don't care that this movie is a work of fiction, some of this actually does have basis in reality, and as an avid fan of yours am morally appalled at the jibes you are making about implied physical abuse and rape. That's like if I were to watch A Clockwork Orange and tape myself laughing at the graphic rape scene at the beginning. Just because both are fiction, does not make it something that is in any way something to joke about.)
Sin 11 - "You learn that this is nothing more than a stage play." (No... this is just how they are all seeing it. It's a rewind to just before the main girl actually comes in. It IS a MENTAL HOSPITAL. Reality is 90% perception, and in the eyes of mentally ill women... being told to go on stage and perform their traumas and project their fears in a 'Healthy' environment could be perceived as putting on an act. And how they're treated by other staff only helps fuel their delusions into something noir-esqe and devoid of hope. Which reminds me...)
Sin 12 - "You can make out the faint colors of her clothes, but otherwise everything else is black and white." (Look up mental hospitals from 1950. Black and white, or severely muted colors. It was believed that they could control outbursts by controlling the environment. By allowing less stimuli to agitate, there would therefor be less agitation. It wouldn't be for another 20 years they realized it wasn't color that would trigger episodes, but the loss of control and freedoms. So... yes. Muted colors because that's how it was. Plus... it's a contrast of characterization. You can see her because you are meant to see her, but the world around her is bleak and devoid of salvation.)
Sin 13 - "This is a needlessly complicated way to run a whorehouse." (Simply put, I do agree. But, nonetheless I still Sin you sir. Looking at it from reality, this is how they're being treated. You have staff that are abusing and raping, and quite possibly letting other people do the same to them, will probably put the delusion in their head that they are whores. Or, they're simply being told by some staff that they are whores.)
Sin 14 - "What kind of fucked up fucking brothel is this!?" (She is their therapist. She wants them to see how they can be better, they do matter, they have purpose. The issue is easily seen in any abuse victim. People ask them 'Don't you want more out of life' and simply put all they hear is 'You are good enough to get what you want'.)
Sin 15 - "Here she is again, not dancing at this point in the song." (She is dancing, this is a deeper layer in her mind which she has gone to in the attempt to block the outside world. Her disassociation allows her to "Auto-Pilot" her way through events that disturb her, giving people what she believes they want from her and suffering little to no damage to her already fragile psyche.)
Sin 16 - "She survives this... or gets kicked back a level." (Neither. The obstacle is merely represented in her mind as something she can physically fight. Though, because her current predicament feels life threatening, but ultimately is not, it cannot actually harm her. In the end, she'll either fight or flee from the issue.)
Sin 17 - "Where did she get these Neo powers?" (People suffering from disassociative periods can in fact believe they can fly, punch meteors or whatever have you. And since right now she's very deep in her mind it would not be beyond the realm of understanding that she is reacting in a daydream like fashion.)
Sin 18 - "She seems incapable of day dreaming up anything positive." (Of course not. Her mom died days ago, her sister was murdered, her stepfather had her committed, she's been raped at least once... need I go on? In real life had this happened to a person in the time span it's happened to her, we'd be wondering what the hell her willpower is made of, because many people that even have 2 of those happen in a short time frame often kill themselves.)
Sin 19 - "Why the dances always show up as battle scenes." (Tell me... if I used you as a sex slave and forced you to dance for my sick amusement... wouldn't you have to fight some piece of yourself just to do it? It's a representation of having to survive a daunting task. Not life-threatening, just daunting.)
Sin 20 - "And now for no reason, here's Saturn in the background." (Because she's in an alien setting... no pun intended. She dances in front of the other girls, in their practice room or on the stage, not for some sweaty cook in a kitchen. It's not somewhere she's used to and therefor it's alien to her... or foreign. I'll admit this director beats you over the head with how much symbolism he uses... but hell, I thought you of all people would get that one.)
Sin 21 - "Is the rampant murdering without consequences supposed to be a metaphor?" (In this instance I'm going to quote another movie... Beautiful Creatures: "There's more than one way to kill someone." Let it be how it is, because what's actually happening is not as important as what is being perceived as happening.)
Sin 22 - This one is just a bit on a personal level. I want to point out I didn't Sin everything on your list, by my count you had 116 more than me, so obviously it was not your video nor your sins that rubbed me wrong. It was the lazy, distasteful disregard of some of the scenes and the basis in actuality they had. This film, though one of my favorites to be honest, I will honestly admit is NOT a masterpiece. It's a B+ at best. On the outside it is a fairly nonsensical, off-the-rails roller coaster ride straight to the depths of hell and does not make much sense even when it's explaining itself. Let me be clear, concise, and for god's sake understood here... the reason this movie is one of my favorites is because I am a Psychology Major, 8 years of it. Abnormal Psychology Major, which covers Disassosiative disorders, Sociopathy, Psychopathy, and Criminological Psychology... with a minor in Occupational Psychology. This is relevant because this movie, whether it intended to or not, is critically interwoven with one very real fabric: Mental Disorders and their deteriorating effects.
Even though I will admit this movie is not exactly the best, when you use something that people truly suffer from, and is a fairly accurate representation of their disorientation and disconnection from reality, as something to poke fun at.
I'm pretty sure I've watched like 50 of these over the course of a few years. It's one of my favorite things on TH-cam, and I just realized I wasn't subscribed 😮 Sorry dude. Great stuff though, as usual.
Your videos give me so much happiness, laughter and joy! I would love to meet you one day. You are the funniest guy and I always look forward to seeing your videos. They make my day a hundred times better and I the content you come up with is hysterical!
High school musical?? 🖤
you commenting for 24 frames of nick? 😂😂
There are a lot misunderstandings going on here. Hopefully I can clear some of these up for you guys.
I think a lot of the problems with Zack's movies stem from him not having a mentor to teach him the formal art of storytelling. Being the director of his own scripts means he doesn't have access to valuable criticism of his writing. Which in my opinion is his weakest point.
Much of these sins are beginner writing mistakes. The biggest one that stood out to me was a failure to show logical progression of shots that make sense to the viewer. Eg. Showing what happened, then displaying reactions. Or in extreme cases using narration to explain transitions that would otherwise make no sense(cutting out a dance scene and replacing it with a CGI battle scene).
The second big mistake Snyder made was the inconsistency in his character's behavior. Eg. Not reacting to imminent death, breaking down in one scene and becoming a stone cold warrior in the next, etc. Or if it was intentional, it was never shown how these shifts occurred(referring back to his mistake with logical progression). There's also a lot of fluff writing, meaning dialogue lines that could be completely cut and not change anything. Granted, Zack Snyder is more known for his punchy, high octane action scenes that sell mostly off of spectacle value(which is why many of his movies are lacking in the storytelling department). But, you can't fault the guy for wanting to tell deeper stories of his own. Sucker Punch is actually my favorite movie to date. Let me hack through some of this gravel and show you the diamonds.
I want to start by correcting something that a lot of people seem to have a problem with. This movie is not about rape. And it certainly is not just some softcore porn fantasy escape fandom meant to please viewers just enough to make a lot of money. Yes, Rocket explains that they are victims to a business that exploits the girls for sex. And yes, it doesn't make sense to most viewers when they cut out a dance to put in a Hollywood CGI action/ fantasy scene. But, when Dr. Gorski tells Babydoll that they have no use for girls who don't dance, she means that this is the kind of place that gets rid of people who don't do what they are told. It's a story about tragedy and survival. And there is actually a lot of meaning and heart buried in this haystack of disastrous writing. I'm going to blow your mind when I explain some of the context of this story, and how it can only be put together by someone who personally understands why Babydoll's dances had to be represented by battles with giant stone samurais, robots, trench warfare, and a dragon.
One thing I can say for a fact, is that these battle scenes are not meant to represent a coping mechanism. If it did, then this would be a movie about living outside of reality(which doesn't help or really make sense to anyone). People in survival situations are not so weak that they have to pretend their reality isn't what it is. In fact, I don't think escapism is ever something we do to cope with tragedy. It's something we do to deal with being bored(but that's another topic). Instead, these fantasy wars are meant to be a literal representation of the epic struggle for freedom and survival. I'd wager there are very few people who have lived in the kind of hell this movie is trying to portray. However, this kind of tragedy is possible and does exist in the world today. I promise you, that if you knew you were about to be lobotomized in a week, the things you would do would surprise you, and terrify you.
As for why Babydoll exploded into passionate dance rather than covertly planning and stealing all the items she needed is a half mystery. On first thought, maybe she believed it was the only way she could buy the time she needed to pull of the thefts. But, certainly there are other ways she could have got the job done. If we take a closer look, there was a deeper meaning behind that choice, reflected in the theme of the story: angels. In the beginning, Sweet Pea narrates and foreshadows Babydoll's role in her escape:
"Everyone has an angel, a guardian who watches over us. We can't know what form they'll take. One day old man, next day little girl. But don't let appearances fool you, they can be as fierce as any dragon."
This is obviously a spiritual story. And dance is very much spiritual in nature. It's a way to find meaning in life through self expression. Angels are servants of god. They symbolize mercy, compassion, and justice. Personally, I'm not religious, but I am spiritual. (Appealing to the definition of believing in a greater meaning to life, not necessarily just religion). Which makes it much more interesting when people use metaphors like this. It's an attempt to define the concept of a celestial being as something more relevant to my life than I imagined.
Babydoll sacrificed everything so that Sweet Pea could escape. In that respect, Babydoll was her angel. There was no way both of them could have escaped. Sure, Sweet Pea could have sacrificed herself for Babydoll, but that's not how the story went. It had to be Babydoll, because she had nothing left to lose. And through her sacrifice the corrupt warden received the justice that he deserved. Unfortunately, Dr. Gorski was the only character who could expose the warden(which is why from a storytelling perspective, she had plot immunity and Babydoll couldn't have told her. Otherwise she would have been murdered and there would be no justice). Sigh... Zack just hire a real writer to point out these insane plot holes. Please.
But, it goes even deeper than that. The story blurs the line between fantasy and reality, by showing the old man who guided Babydoll through her trials as real. Though I believe this was a stretch to fiction, perhaps Babydoll's imaginary angel was more real and influential in her success than we realize. Sometimes people come into our lives that guide us and provide for us exactly what we need to continue on our own journey. And sometimes we're able to be that person for ourselves through our own imagination and foresight. This realization is why I find this movie to be a pristine work of art. It's an idea that if we muster the strength to fight for what's right and trust in our belief of a better future, that belief can become an angel in our own lives. The mind is a very powerful force. It can turn a desire into something tangible with enough focus. Whether that be freedom, survival, love, or anything you seek in life.
You don't understand this movie at all.
Why doesn't this have hundreds of likes?
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@@AlyCat818 I'm down to have a discussion about it. Why do you say that?
I'm so glad I can read the comments in this so that I can understand the actual film better.
BabyDoll, as well as the others, are a figment of SweetPeas imagination. SweetPea couldn't save her sister (Rocket) in real life, it drove her insane, she found a way to deal with it and started her trip to recovery with the wise old man as her guide. Simple as that. And how is it that in her dance dreams she knows kung fu, is basically a superhero? You can't do amazing things in your dreams? I found the movie visually stunning, as believable as any Kung Fu/ Gung Fu wire work and just sat back and enjoyed the ride. I believe Keanu more then this girl but, hey she's a lot hotter then Keanu.
Irony: calling a movie out on bleeping the f word to keep a rating, as you bleep the f word to keep your monetization.
Twin engine aircraft can fly normally with only 1 engine, they're designed so that 1 engine has enough power and pilots are trained extensively on asymmetric flight so please drop 1 sin from the count
Yes because rando people will just know that
@@bennu547 well if he actually research he would know which he should
Everything wrong with Bird Box
he only does good movies. Bird Box has too many inconsistencies he can't make stuff up in that one
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He did it and it was fun to watch
There are three levels going on here. The first level is where babydoll kills her sister trying to kill her stepfather who wanted their mothers fortune but upon her death the stepfather discovered she willed the fortune to her daughters and he was going to kill them and any scene taking place in a psychiatric hospital (including the lobotomy)
The second level is the brothel / dance studio. All the dancing and everything is meant to represent the girls going through the motions faking their way through therapy with the woman. (Probably in sweet peas head, as it appears she is actually telling the story)
the third level dance sequences are probably what is going through babydolls head while she’s dancing. (Or at least what she described as going through her head while dancing to sweet pea) the dancing yet again being these women faking their way through therapy.
It’s actually a common coping mechanism for patients in a mental hospital to imagine they are somewhere else. (So sweet pea imagining she’s a prostitute / showgirl would make sense) and her seeing the bus driver that took her away as a guide and salvation would also make sense. (Because it seems she was also falsely committed, and she and her sister were tormented) it also seems like the male orderly blue was selling sex from the patients to the other males running the facility. (As you see all the items they need as babydoll is on her way into the facility in the possession of the staff)
Maybe I'm dumb baby I'm drunk, these videos are ingenious Within two seconds I'm laughing my ass off. Thank you!
This is hilarious, LOL, you really did it, and I saw this movie, even though that doesn't matter I'm always going to watch this videos in from movies I haven't seen. My God you're a genius. This movie was so stupid. Thank you for highlighting all the situations that make it dumb. I am such a fan of CinemaSins recently. You just made my day.
Hold up, I thought that the stepdad was going to kill the girls in the beginning because he was mad about the fact that everything in the mother’s will was left to them?