Everything Wrong With CinemaSins: Dune in 23 Minutes or Less
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Hey, you probably don’t remember me, but I made a dumb comment on your previous video that I just feel embarrassed about. I’m really sorry for saying nitpicks that was just poor paraphrasing and not paying attention to parts of your video because I was so tired.😅😖
I love your videos and it just killed me when I realised I sounded like another Jeremy.
No harm, no foul. You were just sharing your opinion.
Believe me, I have not thought about it at all. I don't take this stuff personal.
@@Th3Birdman yeah, I didn’t think you would, but I just needed to clear things up because I felt terrible. I also realised that when I asked if you liked The Marvels I phrased it in a way that implied as if I was saying you were wrong for liking it. So, I’m also sorry for that😂
Anyway, another great video. While Dune can be quite surreal and leaves things up in the air for the next film, that’s no excuse for Jeremy to take scenes out of context.
Yo Thebirdman, could you do a video on the twilight franchise?
@@kahleelrobinson7586 You know I have to sit through these movies multiple times to make videos on them, right?
Loved Cinemasins as a teenager.
Love Birdman as an adult.
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Evolution! 😊
Maturing is knowing birdman has been right this entire time
Yeah same here.
so true lmao
Jeremy criticizing Duncan's ability to outlast an onslaught of 12 men just further proves he has no understanding of subtext. We literally know by now that the Emperor has betrayed Atreides via the Harkonnen. Now, we're seeing *why.* If you have a military force made up of men who can handle small platoons, led by a charismatic leader who they will gladly lay down their lives for, that would be a massive threat to your rule.
Hey, wait, *foreshadowing is a literary device in which-*
Lol it specifically points out that he and Gurney are the most highly trained and skilled warriors basically in the freaking universe.
Gurney runs in to a fucking army of these dudes with everything exploding around him with not the least bit of hesitation.
Duncan is basically defied by the end of the books; think of the way we see Hercules in present day. He’s leagues above the average soldier, even a Sardukar
@@mrcheesemunch And in Dune 2, he casually mentions how he and a ragtag group of (presumably) other survivors have been taking advantage of the Harkonnen's failure to procure spice to smuggle it for exorbitant prices. And when he kills Rabban, he does so proclaiming vengeance for his lord Leto. The Atreides soldiers are so loyal they will survive ambushes and do whatever they can to ensure they plant a knife in the chest of those that wronged their leader.
Loyalty that strong is dangerous to a dictator.
That actually isn't really true. Duncan is a Ginaz Swordmaster a group of highly skilled fighters that are considered superior even to the Saraukar but he's not the only one. Pretty much every major house employs a Ginaz swordmaster often as teachers for their troops and as protection from attackers.
So while Duncaan is extremely good he isn't neccessarily the best in the galaxy or really all too special in the grand scheme of things
Just because Duncan never *got so close* to dying, doesn't mean he actually *got close* to dying
Language is important. As Reacher says: "Details matter."
Very good point
"aint no one getting a chub for zendaya she looks 12" we forgetting the harry potter series where cinemasins could only comment about how he was waiting for hermione to get older?
Ewww... I just remembered that
If we’re being honest body wise she looks younger than 12 outside of height
“Card Carrying Member of the Goof Troop” is one of, if not, the most creative insult I’ve heard to date
Even Goofy wouldn't adopt Jeremy into his family.
When talking about Jeremy, that would be insulting to the Good Troop.
I'm going to be waiting for a DarkWing Duck reference now.
Jeremy: "Let get dangerous"
Future Me: do you regret your life choices?
Present Me: so. . .so. . .much. . .
I feel like goofy is good enough of a dad he'd take anyone under his wing... even if they did out goof him
I always find it funny that Jeremy wants more information but he refuses to go to the source material which has more information
Or even worse, he gets the information in the movie AND THEN SINS THAT.
Isn't the point of an adaptation to be faithful to the source material while holding up on its own? As in, you don't need to do homework by going out of your way to read something that probably explains a thing or so that won't be explained in an adaptation which might throw people who haven't read the source material and are only being introduced to a story through its adaptation off? Why do the books matter?
not to mention he would sin it for exposition if they did explain.
@themascotwizard5267 No, that's not the point of an adaptation. It can be the goal, but doesn't have to be.
@@themascotwizard5267Because not all the information matters in a movie. In the book, it constantly spends multiple paragraphs or even pages explaining something that nobody would care to see or know about in a movie. Like how a Fremen tent works, or the family tree and history of some dude that someone notices in the background.
2:20 What makes this sin even worse is that the year 0 in the Dune story is about 10,000 years in our future, so its more like 20,000+ years in the future.
I was about to say that. Year 0 is the founding of the spacing guild and the use of spiced up navigators
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One day, we'll see Th3Birdman do an EWW of CinemaSins' Puss in Boots: the Last Wish.
I hope so. 🤞🏾
And Bad Guys while he's at it.
That video was litterally just Jeremy getting mad at a cartoon for using cartoon logic the whole time
@@THawkMedia Literally what he did to Penguins of Madagascar as well.
That they had the balls to do a sin video about Dune😂
No film is without its share of film sins. EWW just has lost the plot ages ago
Considering how dense the book is, I can already tell CinemaSins covering this film is going to be a huge fucking disaster.
"Jeremy lacing his lemonade with crank because he thought it was actually ice makes total sense"
😂😂😂
This is why I love you, Th3Birdman!!
One of those rare occasions when the 21st century update trumps the 80s original.
And both fall short of the source material.
@@theapexsurvivor9538 Only to simpletons.
my mom would disagree but shes wrong and biased
@@eddiek8179It's a good flick. But yeah, still not as good as the books.
10:30 Jessica's shoes look inspired by Japanese style footwear, minimal ground contact to prevent hat transfer.
Yeah thats what I was thinking
I really dislike when my shoes transfer hats to me. I understand, I would probably use the same kinda shoe.
What would you even do with all those hats?
11:03 just wanted to suggest that the “old dream” referenced here is the idea that Arakis was meant to be terraformed back into a lush planet, but due to the discovery of spice and its value, the plans were abandoned in favour of increased spice production.
And now to wait for the inevitable "Did It Suck?" Video for Part 2
Is Jeremy just using CinemaSins for practice at starting a stand up career? Because good God, it is cringe. I don't know how you do it Birdman, but you do it well!
11:10 "so the sin here is... the UK? *removes sin*" mad respect for this one.
Bold of you to say no one is getting the chub for Zendaya when cinema sins spent almost the entire Harry Potter trilogy talking about when they could finally call Hermonie hot 😂
6:23 he's also just straight up wrong about this. Remember when Duncan is in the Ornithopter, gets hit by a missile, and doesn't die because he was shielded? Remember Paul freaking out because he wasn't wearing his shield when the Hunter Seeker attacks him (and maybe he survived because the Seeker assumed he had one too, see how slow it was moving at the end)? Remember the Baron surviving the poison attack, possibly because he was shielded and didn't get as big a dose from it? What a clown.
@19:53 the criticism of movie coreographies of enemies showing up for one on one combat and not immediately ganging up on one person is so old and tired. Anyone that has practiced any kind of martial arts knows that, even if it's many people vs one, you don't approach all at once.
It's one thing in a street fight with randos, but pros would absolutely not do it. You're getting inside the range of your allies and getting in the way of their attacks, you're struggling for the same space, increasing the chances the two of you are going to do shit out of sync and hurt each other.
At most around 4 people against 1 is plausible, and is usually the most a fight scene will play with very quickly to show the difference in ability; and the best scenario is usually a pincer move, which the coreographies, including the one shown, do; unless what you're asking for is for every henchman to be insane and mow down their own allies to get 1 hit in.
Most people that coreograph fights are competent fighters themselves and know how stupid it would be in a movie that isn't trying to be anime levels of over the top.
Not to mention the Sardaukar are extremely skilled warriors that love their craft, it would obviously be seen as cowardly to gang up on someone rather than fight them one on one, the fact that they HAVE to in order to beat Duncan is a testament to his skill.
30 seconds in: "We're white" 💀💀💀
7:10 Not a Destiny reference!! This is my favorite video ever!
I watched part 2, 2 times and I LOVE IT
And I love both parts
WOW! Gotta see Part 2 this weekend! 😍
Gotta give the flip flop sin to cinema sins.
Flipflops + sand is a million times worse than going barefoot. If the your feet are wet? Death is preferable.
Literally makes no sense.
No, I'll take the flipflops so I don't have to put my feet on sun baked sand.
Though sandals are better.
There is no greater SIN in all of media; written or moving pictures then to DOWN PLAY Harkonnen evilness in any way while reviewing Dune... Man's the Monster of monsters... ♾️ Sins
I love your content, thank you for the hard work and upload.
I appreciate that!
@@Th3Birdmanyou turned a Marine into a giddy little school boy with your acknowledgement. I appreciate you.
Mr. Sinister just crossed over into the Dune universe lol.
I have not seen dune, I will not see dune, because I hate sand
That's why I'll never watch star wars
Could you elaborate? Why exactly do you hate sand?
@@Fighterpilot555 let's hope the answer doesn't spread any mis-sand-formation.
Its coarse, rough, irritating, and it gets everywhere
@@Fighterpilot555 "I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere."
Duncan is such an amazing swordsman that they clone him for millenia in later books
The shields make perfect sense. If I go to pick up a glass of water for my weapon or something else my hand is moving slowly enough that the shield does not prevent me from interacting with the world around me. But if you throw something at me or you try to shoot me the shield will save my life. If Jeremy would put one half of one second into thinking this through he would realize that the concept behind these shields is brilliant
The sins must flow.
So my homeboy wanted to see pt. 2 but i hadn't seen part 1 yet, so we watched it on Hulu a copule hours before our showtime. It was pretty enjoyable
Won’t lie… I thought spice WAS just a form of spice… now I feel like a idiot
That's pretty funny.
"STUPID METRIC SYSTEM! YA MADE ME LOOK BAD!
*get's a picture of Stan from the new Timeline instead of Stan the Man from the G1 Timeline* BLALALALALALA!"
DId I just hear a Destiny reference?! This video just got so much better!!
I wonder if Cinemasins ever sees these videos and what they think of them
11:30
Switching between units all the time is common in Denis’ Canada.
CinemaSins: why wouldn't you shoot the people with the laser gun
Anyone who knows dune one of the most popular sci-fi novels ever: because shooting a person with a beam rifle is a good way to die in a thermo nuclear explosion
Ironically, I watched this film yesterday.
7:15 Did this man just make a Destiny 2 reference. This man plays Destiny, he thought I wouldn't notice, but I did.
I was very much awaiting for this video of yours! thanks!
Thanks again for all the work you do.
It only took 2 years of me asking you for this in the comments of each new video! The spice must flow!
If you guys like the space opera genre, might I humbly suggest you check out the classic "Lensman" series by E. E. "Doc" Smith. It was Smith who pretty much created all the common tropes you find in modern day space opera. One could say he practically invented the genre. I consider him the Tolkien of space opera. Dune has a LOT to thank Doc for, since he did it first. They were published originally in the pulp magazines of the 30s-40s, but you can read them in book form today. There are prequels he released after the main four books, but the saga proper begins with Galactic Patrol, followed by Gray Lensman, then Second-Stage Lensman, and then Children of the Lens. Doc was the first to introduce FTL drives (called the Bergenholm inertialess space drive), deflector screens and force fields (called "defensive screens" in the novels), wormholes ("hyper-spatial tubes"), antimatter bombs (negaspheres), galaxy-wide empires, space police, millenia long genetic breeding programs, highly detailed psychic combat (the Lens gives its wearers insanely powerful psionic powers, among other unique abilities), spaceship combat on a scale that is unparralled, planet-destroying super-weapons (the Death Star has NOTHING on the Sunbeam), benevolent alien benefactors, space gangsters, pirates, asteroid miners, TRULY alien aliens, and a rip-roaring sense of adventure that begins immediately and does not stop until the last chapter of the last book. We wouldn't even half of modern space opera tropes were it not for Doc Smith. The dialogue is cheesy in places, but appropriate for the era---I find it charming. The tech is charming, also. One of the secret steatlh spaceships runs on diesel fuel, and I do believe someone creates space armor made of asbestos. You have to remember it was written in the 1930s and 1940s. But you can't call yourself a space opera fan if you haven't even at least checked out the Lensman saga. It's like telling people you're a fan of the fantasy genre but have never read Tolkien. You'd be doing yourself a disservice if you don't at lease see if what I'm saying is true.
Edited to add: the Lensman anime is an abomination that has literally zero to do with anything in any of the books. It is not an adaptation of the story by any means. The only things that carry over from the books into the anime are character names, and that is literally it. The similarities end there.
Made it just in time! This is gonna be an awesome video! 🍿
Keep up the work,Birdman!
As a Brit, I'm fully behind 11:28 👍
I mean, y'all got to pick a lane 😂.
another fun fact about the personal shields, if you shot it with an engery weapon you the person wearing the shield and perhaps everyone with in 40 square meters dies cause it goes boom!
Card carrying member of the goof troop is now my new favorite insult
The fact you used a recorded piece for the stilgar meme is beautiful
10:41 that sounds like take 3 to me baby wooo best take!!!
10:03 i initially genuinely thought that Drolta (castlevania nocturne)'s "hoof" boots were just something the writers came up with to further her succubus theme. I was kind of shocked when i found out they are a thing.
"You card carrying member of the Goof Troop" is a line I will be using from now on, thank you.
Also the Baron’s introduction is a direct visual reference to Marlon Brando’s intro in Apocalypse Now!!! And he’s crazy in that!!
thank you so much for calling out judeo-christian fearmongering
all of cinema sins videos are the song "just" by Radiohead, "you do it to yourself, you do, and thats what really hurts"
hey, quick question : if we check the wiki paiges of mcu can we learn the total profits of the phases ?
like... when we minus the budgets out of the box office numbers the total money that phase 4 and 5 have made appeare to be 5.460.200.000 dollars.
so is this the version we got when we include the marketing costs or when we dont ? and if its the latter, then how much those phases truly made?
im asking this i am currently in an argument with a dude who is insist on mcu is ''dying''
Both thoroughly enjoyable and informative at the same time
Will you be doing a did it suck on dune 2
1:02 shots fired at Mauler 😂
As much as I agree with cinema sins on Dr. Yueh, you are right in that a large audience doesn't know about the imperial conditioning... I hope that they read the books too after this, but getting them enticed is pretty cool...
early as hell!!!! love ur videos man
i hate how the movie doesnt play around with the 10000 abg timeframe
The only cinemasins video that I've ever enjoyed was cinemasins Everything With How The Grinch Stole Christmas with Nostalgia Critic because it wasn't done in Jeremy's usual way of speaking.
11:27 This is probably the third time I’ve heard Th3Birdman express his annoyance with the brits 😂
Man I need you to go get that CS roadhouse video😂😂😂😂 you gonna have a Field day
5:36 That's sum fighting words, I agree but still
Been bricked up for this since the cinemasins vid came out 😩😩
Do tv sins. Between Rick and Morty, Falcon and the winter soldier, and the walking dead youd have enough to roast them further into oblivion
Healing is 6:52
"Maybe I'm missing some fear cues."
APOCALYPSE NOW, much? It's embarrassing that any film channel would not make theconnection.
Still haven't seen this movie but here we are
🤣 that sentencing was godlike
Never read the books and I KNOW they matter lol. But the movie was sick. Also any word on Blade 2 video Th3Birdman?
The juice is worth the squeeze!!! Epic movie reference!! ❤😂
16:00 smart man would jersey himself to catch the dart.
So wait @Th3Birdman, what foot wear is acceptable to the beach, are "slides" different from flip flops to you, and are they acceptable?
Was that a Destiny reference at 7:12?
Zendaya can GET IT Bro. IJS
To each his own but there is a reason she is never nude on Euphoria and it’s not just her modesty.
nah, Birdman is right...she looks like a child. no femininity at all.
@@technofilejr3401 it 100% is her decision my guy. IJS
Lol
Bro you’re in a relationship, kinda odd to be oogling at someone who looks like a teenager
She can get the fuck out of movies.
22:03, If you read the books, its both... It plays into the religious aspect that is meant to convince the reader themselves that Paul is the Messiah...
14:40, That's not even the half of it. Why would you go around feeding the worms shield tech when you could just... pick up the harvester. I know it messes up this time due to the Harkonnen's sabotage, but supposedly after they deal with the sabotage or get new equipment in time this would be a simple process.
It's such a silly thing to criticise when the Harkonnens obviously did it the same way and became richer than God doing so, it's clearly sufficient. That harvester even says that they have a full load despite them only being there a short while, clearly they're extremely efficient at all this or else there wouldn't be an entire galactic industry surrounding it.
if cinamasins ever sins megamind vs the doom syndicate and you do a ew cinamasins on it please remove 100 sins for sining the worst excuse for a sequel to a masterpiece
I wonder how long Jeremy of cinemasins would survive if he was cast in a horror movie
who doesn't eat brown sugar for breakfasts.
Just watched this movie last week. So good. Gonna go see the second one soon. Worth it?
Gooood lookin Birdman!!!!
Not entirely sure those slaves in Part 2 are female. I'll admit I didn't get the best look but Baron Harkonnen is canonically gay in the books. (Which is... a win for representation, I guess? Fat balding terrible dictators can be queer too, yay...)
Also regarding the no guns against infantry thing, shooting a lasgun, the guns they primarily use in the Dune universe, into an active shield causes a THERMONUCLEAR EXPLOSION, and as such should not be done in any case.
I saw the movie three times-- those were women. The 84 movie showed him as gay for sure though.
@@Th3Birdman coolio, I believe you. Only saw it once this past weekend and that was a pretty quick shot. Not surprised the 84 movie was more faithful. That seems to be the consistent narrative… and not always for the best.
@@FinzombieTo your original point: It's even worse, firing a lasgun at a shield causes *two* quasi-thermonuclear explosions. One at the lasgun, one at the shield. While there would technically be a space for this tactic (if quasi-nuclear warfare wouldn't be banned by the Landsraad) by using some form of remote-lasgun (small one-use satellites in orbit for example, or just a remote controlled vehicle with one), normally you would... kinda not want to blow up your own troops - even if it's a sniper 3km away - just to kill an enemy.
Of course the Harkonnens probably wouldn't care ;)
@@Th3BirdmanVladimir was gay in the 2000 SYFY miniseries as well. He also had an implied obsession with his nephew Feyd. The book was more explicit about that. 🤢🤮
I saw Dune Part II and I believe all of Vlad’s assistants/concubines are male. They are all just very androgynous but male.
Feyd seems to be more hetero leaning and his large harem is stocked with female concubines. Thankfully the director chose not to show Vlad making Feyd perform the harem massacre scene from the book.
The Harkonnens are some twisted fvcks no matter their sexuality.
Was that a destiny reference at 7:12?
4:16 not just that but it it explained in the books that the guild pilots can see possible futures with the Spice, I think they don't refer to it in the Villeneuve movies but it doesn't really matter
0:51 Did you just dunk on Mr Plinkett?!
Hang on... Emperor, Imperium, Witches, Noble Houses - Is Dune... a 40k reference?
(This is a joke)
Hang on... A political drama involving feuding noble houses using many of the trappings of a popular spec-fic subgenre - Is Dune... a Game of Thrones ripoff?
(But seriously, A Song of Ice and Fire is to epic fantasy what Dune is to sci-fi.)
Ooohhh boy if God Emperor of Dune ever gets a movie adaptation.....
40k most definitely took influence from Dune. No way it didn't.
Oh, also, Las fire plus Personal Shields do not mix... and when they do, things get really explosive.
Another barrage of Jeremy the Frog, I guess that makes me no one, because she looked pretty damn smokin in that Cyborg suit.
Jeremy never read the book, did he?
hahahaha, he can't read.
"Judeo - Christian fear mongering" I LOVE THAT!!
5:38 😂that part nobody checking for nobody that looks twelve
Seeing people misunderstand Dune is always hilarious to me. Thank you Birdman
It's a Ghost, Guardian 🤣
Love the video, but what would you say was wrong with the sound mixing of the film? I thought it was remarkable and known to be so, no?
You obviously didn't watch this when it first came out. I did.
And so did these people:
www.reddit.com/r/dune/comments/qegmju/audio_mixing/
www.reddit.com/r/dune/comments/qisj8c/audio_mix_is_really_bad_for_viewing_at_home/
www.reddit.com/r/scifi/comments/qe6r23/dune_sound/
www.reddit.com/r/TrueFilm/comments/qfelva/need_some_insight_here_just_saw_villeneuves_dune/
www.reddit.com/r/scifi/comments/qevrd2/anyone_else_not_being_able_to_hear_people_talk/
www.reddit.com/r/dune/comments/qecja4/was_the_movie_really_loud_for_anyone_else/
Should I go on, or do you get the point yet?
@@Th3Birdman I've seen it twice in cinemas and many times at home. Never had an issue. I do video editing and sound mixing for a living and had zero problems with the film's sound. I don't know what to tell ya.
"I do video editing and sound mixing for a living"
Fantastic, so do I.
"...and had zero problems with the film's sound"
Fantastic, and good for you. You asked me a question, I answered you-- this film's sound editing is bad, as noted by countless other people. If you don't realize the dynamic range on this film's audio is extremely wide, then you might not be a good sound mixer. Maybe read some reviews from when the film actually came out:
_If you’re going in blind, it can get confusing as poor sound-mixing means some scenes are rendered almost impossible to hear, even with cinematic surround-sound_
dailydrunkmag.com/2021/10/25/dune-review/
@@Th3Birdman Then I guess I personally don't mind the wide dynamic range of sound in film, I find it necessary especially in a big action blockbuster like Dune. I wasn't arguing with you or the many who feel that way, was just asking to know more. You haven't *really* given legitimate reasons other than saying it's just bad, but I still respect your very prompt and thought out responses (no matter if they are slightly condescending, I know it's kinda your thing lmao)
I did give you a legitimate reason. In fact, I gave you multiple, but apparently you didn't click any of the links I provided. I said what the issue was: an extremely wide dynamic range. This means that dialogue will be too quiet and action scenes will be far too loud. This means that in scenes where there is action AND dialogue, you will not be able to hear the dialogue, which is what every link I sent you said.
I noted that in my own review of this film: th-cam.com/video/KaKbJdt7AAk/w-d-xo.htmlsi=K_vDPvZYiWeRC_Qv&t=413
Christopher Nolan has this exact same issue, and he explained he does it on purpose, because he doesn't think not being able to hear dialogue in his films is a big deal, which is a strange thing to say considering the majority of his films are dialogue heavy.
11:31 comedy gold