Conquering Colosseum's TOUGHEST challenge!

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  • @dukemagus
    @dukemagus ปีที่แล้ว +72

    "Welcome to Mount BATTLE"
    "Oh, nice! What happens there?"

    • @silviocupica2521
      @silviocupica2521 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You obviously have to catch 100 Pokémon in a row

  • @POGEYMANZFTW
    @POGEYMANZFTW ปีที่แล้ว +152

    For the Agate Village walking trick, you can also unplug the controller and plug it back in while holding up on the joystick. The Gamecube always assumes the stick is in neutral when plugged in, so resting the stick back to neutral will be read as holding down.

  • @SpritePony
    @SpritePony ปีที่แล้ว +83

    Honest to God, Lyra, you learning your type matchups and realizing "Huh, maybe unga bunga isn't the best way to play..." already makes you better than 70% of players I run into. I watched you list this Mt. Battle team and flinched from how unbalanced it was... But it worked out anyway. Good job. Can't wait to see how you handle XD: Gale of Darkness, my 2nd favorite Gen 3 title.

    • @Lyra
      @Lyra  ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Unga-bunging is so much fun though...

    • @nullpoint3346
      @nullpoint3346 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Lyra Hence Tinkaton being so popular.

  • @doorgoo
    @doorgoo ปีที่แล้ว +266

    I genuinely believe this and XD gave the most shits about making interesting/difficult Pokémon battles. Shadow Pokémon could have been lazy but instead they made a legit system. The game was challenging. And XD made a puzzle mode basically which is sick!

    • @psyxypher3881
      @psyxypher3881 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Battle CDs did indeed kick ass.

    • @revenevan11
      @revenevan11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree! I never played Colosseum as a kid but I loved XD so much!!

    • @Dairunt1
      @Dairunt1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Too bad the Orre saga never took off. Imagine expanding the region in latter games with new cities and routes, make new unique stories and explain new gameplay mechanics easily. It could have been a bridge between casual and competitive battles.

    • @thetreyceratops
      @thetreyceratops 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ultra Sun & Ultra Moon exist, and now Indigo Disk is kinda the same with the all doubles

    • @symphomaniac
      @symphomaniac หลายเดือนก่อน

      You'd love the Indigo Disk DLC in Scarlet and Violet

  • @FigbyTheWolf
    @FigbyTheWolf ปีที่แล้ว +32

    3:30 seeing the words "SHADY GUY LYRA" together is terrifying, you know something is wrong because Lyra is the most wholesome person ever.
    Meanwhile, "wholesome" Lyra: 34:18

  • @altejoh
    @altejoh ปีที่แล้ว +180

    From personal experience: you learn about Thunder's interaction with Rain by growing up during Gen 2 and playing the heck out of Pokemon Stadium 2 rental battles xD
    Also the "school" in Pokemon Stadium 2 is actually really great (if now outdated) for teaching battle strategy, I was really hoping something like it would be included in the new Scarlet and Violet since that is all about going to school xD

    • @LunarWingCloud
      @LunarWingCloud ปีที่แล้ว +20

      BRING BACK EARL!! 👏👏👏

    • @Dw7freak
      @Dw7freak ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I think Stadium is the only good tutorial Pokemon has ever done, ironic since you're suppose to use your own teams for the actual battles in the game, and it even teaches you about the Thunder Rain combo.

    • @Bravosama
      @Bravosama ปีที่แล้ว +25

      I was coming down here to say the same thing. It's what told me that Defense Curl doubles Rollout's damage or that you can hit flying Pokémon with Thunder or digging Pokémon with Earthquake and I would've never known those things otherwise.

    • @briansilva3765
      @briansilva3765 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Not only great at teaching, but fun too, I remember going there just because it was a nice mode.

    • @dorik0
      @dorik0 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      in its defense, SV *DOES* teach you about battle strategy in the school. Problem is, lot of people either don't know or forget about the classes you can take because they are completely optional.

  • @montyeggman3075
    @montyeggman3075 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Glad to see you ended up liking Colosseum a lot more than last time, and that you cleared the Mt. Battle challenge so well. I haven't yet done it, but after watching this, I think I might have to construct a team to try it myself.

    • @Lyra
      @Lyra  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      It's real fun! Go for a less overpowered team than mine though...

  • @Coolbond2
    @Coolbond2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    Happy to hear you enjoyed it! Fell asleep during the stream and have not watched the vod yet.
    Now imagine trying the 100 fight challenge with a team not tailored to deal with it as most did back in the day and you can imagine why most people would need a ton of continues.

  • @wulfywulfynrir1296
    @wulfywulfynrir1296 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Goddamn, im actually impressed how much your battling improved for this!
    At this rate, i cant wait to see you start factoring in physical/special stats and knowing when super effective isnt the most effective 😂

  • @juandiego1993
    @juandiego1993 ปีที่แล้ว +284

    I will forever love Colosseum for giving us Umbreon and Espeon as a starter 🖤🩷

    • @excalibur493
      @excalibur493 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      My Espeon is Adamant, so that's been "fun". Still having a blast on my run, though.

    • @Goomatora
      @Goomatora ปีที่แล้ว +16

      ​@@excalibur493that blows, luckily Espeon literally had the highest sp atk stat of all Pokemon that existed in Gen 2 and before, it's a nerf but Espeon is a monster

    • @Wailerman
      @Wailerman ปีที่แล้ว +7

      This is just more proof of Eevee being a secondary starter

    • @ExpandDong420
      @ExpandDong420 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@Goomatora no? Alakazam and Mewtwo both have higher Special Attack

    • @noisepollution4473
      @noisepollution4473 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      my hope is that the next Lets Go games if they ever come out are Lets Go Espeon and Lets Go Umbreon

  • @IAmMissingnoMaster
    @IAmMissingnoMaster ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So glad to see how much your opinion on Colosseum has improved! It really is an awesome game that doesn't always get the love it deserves. And congrats on the Mt. Battle wins, too! Nice thought put into that team- I usually just run with the team I used to beat the story mode. A lot of my victories heavily involved my Feraligatr and Plusle doing the same basic thing your Raikou and Suicune did, but with the addition of Plusle's Helping Hand to power up Feraligatr's Surf even more.

  • @Buzterer
    @Buzterer ปีที่แล้ว +19

    If anything, this video showed the importance of type coverage

  • @dontecrosland1883
    @dontecrosland1883 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Gen 3 w/ emerald battle frontier colosseum and Xd taught me a lot about strats the use of none attack moves and gave us the ultimate content

  • @KingDiaMaru
    @KingDiaMaru ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Lyra, your content is truly amazing. I'm glad you gave this game a shot and are willing to play Gale of Darkness next! Thanks for another great video!

    • @Lyra
      @Lyra  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much for the kind words :'D I hope you will enjoy the next parts of the challenge. We're reaching the end!

  • @reelsonder
    @reelsonder ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm really glad Colosseum really pushed for a better understanding of battle mechanics. I love this series, but I must admit that watching a few clips of the battles in prior episodes was a bit difficult to watch as a competitive Pokémon hobbyist. I don't expect perfection of course, this is a Pokemon capture series, not a battle one, but I'm happy lessons we're at a more well-rounded spot now.

  • @JustHANO
    @JustHANO ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Theres bound to be a npc tucked away on some island up stairs in some house who explain that weather conditions can effect accuracy. He'd say something like "did you know that weather conditions can effect how often some moves land?! On rainy days i bring my pikachu to the roof and power my generator with its thunder!"

    • @bookoostrikes
      @bookoostrikes ปีที่แล้ว +10

      The way we(I say we loosely as if I went to Pokémon academia, but I did grow up with PS2, but bear with me) learned about stuff like this was through Pokémon Stadium 2. The academy sub game taught you many hidden mechanics of moves and such and that was one of the classes (or at the least, one of the “textbooks” had info on weather mechanics)

  • @kalarse
    @kalarse ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I love how you began to enjoy and understand double battles :D

  • @MarthChan
    @MarthChan ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I feel like Lyra had flashbacks to the Invincible Ludicolo during that last fight. XD Thank you for a fun video!

    • @Lyra
      @Lyra  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ludicolo is my Gen 3 arch-nemesis!

  • @Marchingvenusaur
    @Marchingvenusaur ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Love watching Lyra having an existential crisis over Latias being small

    • @Lyra
      @Lyra  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's supposed to be a legendary yet it's SO SMALL!

  • @OverlordMaggie
    @OverlordMaggie ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Grats! And glad you found the joy of battle tactics and type matchups!
    Also agree that double battles and triple battles is grossly underrated for a interesting format!

    • @Lyra
      @Lyra  ปีที่แล้ว

      Doubles is fantastic! I never tried triples, but I can't wait too!

    • @OverlordMaggie
      @OverlordMaggie ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Lyra I think we see them in 5th gen, and defs in 6th gen - it makes the tactics of using Surf and Earthquake a lot more interesting when you've got two teammates and three opponents to think about!
      The double- and triple-battles are sadly a bit of a rarity still in the games so far but they're an excellent format. My friend and I are playing trough Gen 6 and after I beat a gym leader, we have a singles battle and a doubles battle, so I have to build my teams for three different fights. It's a lot of fun!
      Love the channel, been sharing it left and right. Cheers!

  • @Ender41948
    @Ender41948 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After the previous Colosseum video, I'm really glad the story of you and this game seems to have had such a glowing ending. That, and I'm so glad to hear you enjoying taking battles seriously, after you previously said you didn't enjoy battling that much and relied mostly on level brute force. This was one of your best videos in terms of growing as a player.

  • @TourFaint
    @TourFaint ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Every time this channel releases a vid i learn about new depths of possible skill issues one might have.

    • @markramos1216
      @markramos1216 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shut up fat nerd

    • @miguelhxrnandez
      @miguelhxrnandez 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      another bad pokemon player detected ​@@markramos1216

  • @ChrisWilliams-ur7fn
    @ChrisWilliams-ur7fn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This was very enjoyable to watch, you have really great narration and are easy to follow. Was interesting

  • @gengallade
    @gengallade ปีที่แล้ว +20

    It's good that you got to enjoy Colosseum more than before, and hopefully you get a lot of enjoyment out of XD. By most people's accounts, it's the better game out of the two, and I happen to agree, but I'm interested to hear what you think about it once you play it!

  • @ShadowTasos
    @ShadowTasos ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Though in all seriousness, some of my previous comments might have come off a bit negative, but I've loved your content and I'm glad you gave Colosseum a try and appreciated something new! I'm looking forward to seeing you blast this Gen 3 living dex :D

  • @Blastosie_Offical
    @Blastosie_Offical ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The best part of Mt. Battle is all the theme teams

    • @Lyra
      @Lyra  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It made most teams very easy to beat, but the themes were indeed super fun to discover

  • @MediumDSpeaks
    @MediumDSpeaks ปีที่แล้ว +2

    PERFECT TIMING!!!! I am replaying Colloseum at the moment

  • @DyxoXinoro
    @DyxoXinoro ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm so happy for Lyra. Learning about the inner workings of Pokemon's systems is a special kind of high the series rarely pushes people towards, and the Orre games focusing on that really makes for a special pocket of the series. Makes me wonder if he'll get into competitive pokemon through this. Dude took a bite of the fruit and I could _hear_ the frustration from wanting more during that final match.

  • @Arthur-ux9ez
    @Arthur-ux9ez ปีที่แล้ว

    I loved seeing you getting more and more into strategizing, I hope you'll keep this taste for combat!

  • @jedimasterpickle3
    @jedimasterpickle3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've never played Colosseum, but I can appreciate it for being an introduction to actual teambuilding and strategy in Pokemon. The battle system has always been surprisingly complex, and it's always interesting to see what people come up with.

  • @excalibur493
    @excalibur493 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The beginning of Pokemon XD starts with a tutorial battle, and there's a lot more that you can do if you want to learn more about Gen 3 battling. It's actually pretty decent at teaching some things. Too bad a lot of the mechanics change by the very next generation.

    • @jasonreed7522
      @jasonreed7522 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Atleast most of those changes were for the better/more logical.
      Just the physical/special split alone is worth it.
      XD will remain my favorite pokemon game, and gen 3 will always have a special place in my heart, but some of those changes were incredibly necessary.

    • @excalibur493
      @excalibur493 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jasonreed7522 Oh, I'm not saying they were bad changes. I love the physical/special split! I just brought it up because Lyra had been running so long on the old mechanics and had mentioned they weren't too knowledgable about battle. XD was my second game, and BY GOD, do I love it!

    • @jasonreed7522
      @jasonreed7522 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@excalibur493 i understand what you meant, if he spent a bunch of time learning gen 3 mechanics with XD then it wouldn't translate well to gen 4+ because of all the changes. (Although a lot does cary over, just use bulbapedia or smogen to check for the niche move interactions, the games barely tell you any if them)
      Although XD and Coloseum are fantastic tutorials for gen 3, they feel like intro to competitive pokemon before it got huge. Especially with the properly designed enemy teams, the post game Colosseums, and the side puzzles/tutorials like the battle roms in XD that give you specific situations and some of them have super niche solutions including attacking youself to get a switch while under the effects of a shadowtag.

  • @browncow5210
    @browncow5210 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love how he left the base game in disgust, but came back and had the time of his life doing the post game he was dreading.
    I never actually played this one, but some friends loaned me the sequel a few years back, and that game is actually good. They properly automated the purifying system into something somewhat creative. Also, Battle CD's are a fantastic idea and a fun way to learn mechanics and strategy. I'm honestly sad they don't have anything like that in any other games.

  • @EmeraldoTheDragon
    @EmeraldoTheDragon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish I'd known about the ball glitch back when I played Pokémon Colosseum when it originally came out. It would've saved me a few headaches trying to catch some of the later Shadow Pokémon as well as the Legendary Beasts. I still remember freaking out during the first battle with Dakim because one of his other Pokémon greatly damaged Entei with Earthquake, so I had to catch Entei as quickly as possible and I was lucky enough to get it with either my first or second Ultra Ball.
    Also, I don't know if you've ever played Pokémon Stadium 2, but Earl's Academy offers lessons and tutorials on the various battle mechanics of the Gen 2 games, at least one of which explicitly mentions Thunder always hitting while it's raining in battle, as well as Solar Beam bypassing the charge-up turn to immediately hit during strong sunshine, confirming that the Thunder Dance and Sunny Beam combos have existed since Pokémon Gold & Silver.

  • @anlev11
    @anlev11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    When i was a child i played that 100 trainer challenge and was able to complete it with my team from Leafgreen, consisting of Venusaur, Pidgeot, Nidoking, Gyarados, Alakazam and Snorlax. Nowadays i am surprised that i did it, since i wasn't very smart at battling,

  • @BrawlSnorlax
    @BrawlSnorlax ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was a cool veido.
    I don't think I completed a living dex until Pokemon Home came out.

  • @MapleLunii
    @MapleLunii ปีที่แล้ว +53

    NGL Mt Battle is super easy, it's just time consuming lol. I did it on the run-up to Ultra Sun for the Ho-oh, and the worst part is just how long it takes. Especially in the early battles when all you're doing is slapping down the baby trainers with Colosseum's lack of set mode/turning off animations (a lot of which take a long time to play out).

    • @jasonreed7522
      @jasonreed7522 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Coloseum and XD animations are amazing, but they definitely take up a lot of time which isn't conducive to grinding or just playing quickly.
      And most pokemon games aren't all that hard, and gen 3 AI isn't helping in this case. But Coloseum atleast trys to have interesting enemy team comp. (Although the best part is the music, especially mirror B's theme being synced to Ludicolo's dancing idle animation)

    • @atpyro7920
      @atpyro7920 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Playing through Mt Battle makes me really appreciate the speed up button on Dolphin. It still took me two hours to do 70 battles even with being hilariously over leveled and having some of the best moves in the game on my Pokémon.

  • @atpyro7920
    @atpyro7920 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fun fact: you technically have to do Mt Battle twice: once in Story mode for the time flute, once in Battle mode for Ho-oh with your story team. The trainers, teams, and strats are different for both runs (and even in Single or Double battles for Battle mode), and the final boss of the challenge is as well. In Story, it’s a bodybuilder modelswap named Somek or smth like that, while in Battle mode it’s either Eagun reskins Infin or Inity depending on if you challenged Singles or Doubles. While Doubles is probably the most completed version, Singles still has some decent tricks up it’s sleeve.

  • @wowee190
    @wowee190 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I love your series so far! I can't wait for you to be done with gen 3. I'm starting to collect everything I need for gen 4 myself but I'm at a loss for how to start planning my runs. Platinum will definitely be my hub game tho.

  • @cj_skywalker
    @cj_skywalker 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "I don't want to be THAT GUY who gives up on a challenge when it looks too tough."
    I do, or I want to be known as "THAT GUY who gives up on a challenge when it looks too tough because he has better games to enjoy than those that make him have end up evolving into Annihilape because he died from rage." ;p

  • @jamesmast4221
    @jamesmast4221 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I mean this with all due respect but the contrast between all the lengths they go through to set up these extensive lists for national dex completion, setting up and going through with plans to make full living dexes and then complaining about how they only now found out how thunder works just floors me. like it's just such an enigma...

  • @Dondeath
    @Dondeath ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You keep up this kinda fun and soon you'll be posting Pokemon VGC videos soon!
    Awesome video!

  • @DMP64
    @DMP64 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I played colosseum to do the ribbon challenge and it's my favourite spin off so far! the way this game glorifies battles, the take on stolen pokemon and the level of difficulty it's something I really enjoyed,

  • @UnknownCleric2420
    @UnknownCleric2420 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    About Thunder:
    Isn't there a Schoolboy to the west of Ecruteak who calls you to tell you about niche move interactions like Stomp doing more damage against targets using Minimize and Thunder being 100% accurate in rain? I know for certain he says those things in HG/SS, and he probably also mentions them in G/S/C.

    • @CosmicPlatonix
      @CosmicPlatonix ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Phone System got a lot better in Crystal than it was in Gold/Silver. The Schoolboy you're thinking of does work that way in Crystal, but in Gold/Silver Pokégear trainers only ever do three things: they call to ask for rematches, they bore you with inane rambling about how their day is going, or a rare few of them can tell you about rare pokémon outbreaks like Dunsparce.

    • @UnknownCleric2420
      @UnknownCleric2420 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @CosmicPlatonix Thanks, haven't played the original Gold and Silver but I have played a bit of Crystal, so I recall the phone callers calling you for small talk.

  • @Twilightblade7
    @Twilightblade7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So I haven't bothered to look, but the detailed interactions with weather (thunder in rain, can't freeze in sun, etc.) were clearly stated in Stadium 2. I do wonder if they are mentioned in game elsewhere in books at the trainer school and such.

  • @coffeeDNAx
    @coffeeDNAx ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Ok the Raikou and Insane the Suicune...don't worry about the names, they make no sense."
    10/10 line 😂

  • @parlaptie
    @parlaptie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm impressed! I didn't think you'd go back to this challenge after all after having given up on it initially. Props to your perseverence.
    One thing I'd like to mention is that I'm pretty sure you could have avoided hitting your own Pokemon with Earthquake by using Protect.

  • @Arvenyte
    @Arvenyte ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The journey to see you enjoy battles was quite pleasant. Usually only post game stuff like battle frontier offers any actual challenge, so only people into competitive and ribbon masters bother learning more than necessary. It was nice that Colosseum gave a reason to learn more than just beeg damage.

  • @tonyhakston536
    @tonyhakston536 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m glad to see you ENJOYING battles instead of approaching them as a gate for progress. Makes me smile.

  • @shayantp
    @shayantp ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great video! Technically, you are still missing 3 pokemon from Japanese Colosseum. They are locked behind the Pokemon Battle e+ cards.

    • @Tyviebrock
      @Tyviebrock ปีที่แล้ว

      They're getting Togepi in LG, Scyther in XD, and Mareep is available in Emerald. You can find their path on their website.

    • @Lyra
      @Lyra  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Indeed I am! I can obtain these Pokémon in other ways though, so we're good

  • @RosstheSauceStirrer
    @RosstheSauceStirrer ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Just wanted to say your catch em all series inspired me to get a gamecube and colo+xd and all that cable guff for the authentic complete gen 3 experience. Haven't started them yet so I'll watch this later but hope your quest is going smoothly

    • @luke1804
      @luke1804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you can save a lot of $ on that if you get a modded gamecube.

  • @kryzethx
    @kryzethx ปีที่แล้ว +3

    8:50 Lol what? I thought it was common knowledge that Thunder ignores accuracy under rain? Next you're gonna tell me you didn't know that Solar Beam charges instantly under Sunny weather, or that Blizzard ignores accuracy under Snowy weather lol.

  • @GeekoTreecko
    @GeekoTreecko ปีที่แล้ว

    I was in the streams on your other channel! It was fun to follow along your suffering Lyra :X

  • @jacksonmiller1805
    @jacksonmiller1805 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You know it’s a good day when lyra posts

  • @BoltTheEmolga
    @BoltTheEmolga ปีที่แล้ว +48

    You skimmed heavily over how you were able to trick the Celebi bonus disc to accepting an NA save file, how were you able to do that? Feels like it’d be a lot harder than you made it out to be.
    Also good luck on XD, there’s a lot of quality of life improvements there that will make things significantly less tedious on you, on top of you actually having more options to work with both in teambuilding and in battle decisions. Will be happy to see how it goes!

    • @DarrienGlasser
      @DarrienGlasser ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Most likely it’s just a gecko code. He’s playing on an emulator I believe, so turn on hacks, use gecko code, all done

    • @PretzlePretzle
      @PretzlePretzle ปีที่แล้ว +7

      They include a link in the description which details the process. Basically though, the bonus disc ISO is edited to reference the NTSC-U or PAL version of the game by changing just a few letters via a hex editor.

    • @Lyra
      @Lyra  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As someone mentioned, there is a link in the video description mentioning how I did it. In essence, I edited the bonus disc's code to replace the region it was looking for. It's not difficult in theory, but I did run into a lot of compatibility issues with savefiles which I did not want to get into. Hopefully you still enjoyed the video!
      And what little I've seen so far of XD has gotten me very excited indeed

  • @renownerd.276
    @renownerd.276 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I did this as a kid, the real difficulty was not dying from boredom. Fights only got interesting after the first eighty. . .
    I also didn't use any glitches, but did use a Kyogre which made it trivial!
    The Ho-oh was cool.
    Good use of celebi flutes and oils made the purification pretty easy.

    • @mokarokas-1727
      @mokarokas-1727 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What do you mean "in real life"? Lyra did it in real life too. lol

    • @mjc0961
      @mjc0961 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember attempting to do this and not succeeding because I would keep falling asleep while playing. Or at least find myself wanting to fall asleep, struggling to stay awake, and turning the game off to do something else and avoid an unwanted nap

    • @renownerd.276
      @renownerd.276 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I broke it up into 10 floors a day, and just used the save/rest thing.@@mjc0961

    • @renownerd.276
      @renownerd.276 ปีที่แล้ว

      My bad I meant to say as a kid.@@mokarokas-1727

  • @FlautistAcacia
    @FlautistAcacia ปีที่แล้ว

    My head is still spinning over how you got Celebi! I've been trying to read the thread about it but i feel really dumb not understanding aha. Still gotta finish the game myself anyhow. Nice work on this!

  • @TheSandwhichman108
    @TheSandwhichman108 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Here’s a team I used for my play through of gale of darkness.
    It will help you through the main story.
    Espeon
    Ampharos
    Dusclops
    Walrain
    Zangoose
    Houndoom
    Espeon, houndoom and zangoose are the main damage dealers.
    Dusclops is here as a tank to assist with helping hand and give opposing pokemon burn status.
    Walrain as a slow but heavy hitter that also acts as a THICk defensive wall to take hits.
    Ampharos is here to use thunderwave and alongside espeon help set up light screen and reflect respectively.

  • @Sizzyl
    @Sizzyl ปีที่แล้ว +2

    glad you enjoyed battling :D

  • @camuor3645
    @camuor3645 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Now you need to clear the Emerald battle facilities

  • @boyankovachev7982
    @boyankovachev7982 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lyra, you are amazing, luv. Thanks for another brilliant video. You rule.
    One love ❤️

  • @Lebon19
    @Lebon19 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9:19 I understand what you mean but here's some trivia... In Pokemon Stadium 2, there's a Pokemon school of some sort that you can play. There, you learn a buttload of hidden mechanics including, you guessed it, Rain Dance + Thunder combo. So, yeah, at some point, GF _did_ explain it but I understand that they didn't again since then.
    EDIT: Oh yeah. In that mode, you also learn the Defense Curl + Rollout combo as well.
    EDIT2: Maaaaaaaan... if I would have read the comments just a little bit more I would have known that I'm late to the party in saying this.

  • @Whatisthis195
    @Whatisthis195 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I had the jirachi disc that came in the game case, it was a rare special edition I guess? Had a 2 disc spot in the case with a little jirachi on the cover. Didn’t know what it was and sold it 🤦🏻

  • @RolandTheJabberwocky
    @RolandTheJabberwocky ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is usually an npc that does explain the weather stuff like thunder and solar beam, but coliseum doesn't I think.

  • @kleptrep94
    @kleptrep94 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In hindsight the 100th Floor in Mt. Battle should've consisted of like Ho-Oh, Sunflora, Groudon, Sunflora, Latias and Sunflora then it would've been super tricky. It is interesting how Sunflora was broken as an opponent's pokemon in this challenge and not literally any other pokemon.

  • @kit6024
    @kit6024 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You are a hundred percent right about the game not telling you about how moves interact, and about that being super frustrating at times! I'm not sure if it helps at all, but I believe the reason Gamefreak included so many details like that is because Pokemon was always intended to be a social game. The idea was that people would learn, pick up, and discover certain mechanical details over time, and would share them with their friends, therefore creating a stronger community of people sharing all the truths, myths, and rumours about how exactly the games worked. You'll see this in the Regi caves for RSE - it's my personal belief that those were created as a nod to the crazy internet stories about how to get ultra rare legendary Pokemon by adopting a series of weird and arbitrary maneuvers which were typically complete timewasters.
    Don't get me wrong - I still think it's a pretty reasonable conclusion if you think that it's dumb and unnecessarily obfuscated. That said, if the question is 'how on earth was I supposed to know that?' I personally think the answer is you ultimately learned in the exact way you were supposed to; someone else who had played the games told you about it.

  • @DataDigi151
    @DataDigi151 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m so happy I have finally found someone who pronounces Chimecho’s name the same way I do: “Chime-cho”. I know it’s actually pronounced “Chime-echo”, but I don’t care and this validates my childhood misunderstandings.

    • @Lyra
      @Lyra  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And I'm happy to learn I'm not the only person mispronouncing Pokémon names! It's made-up words anyway. I was almost tempted to say "Chi-me-cho" just for fun, but apparently I got the pronunciation wrong anyway xD

    • @MegaKBang
      @MegaKBang ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@Lyra every word is made up tbh

  • @ch3rry833
    @ch3rry833 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe you don't know, but... in Gen 3 spread moves like Rock Slide and Surf (the ones that only hit the foe) do half of the damage in doubles, so they're very weak. Spread moves like Earthquake and Explosion, so that hit even the teammate, do 100% to everyone, so they're very strong. In the later gens, they do 75% everytime
    Note: Rain Dance + Surf should technically do 75% of the total in this case, so it's like a 72 base power move. It is lowered to 48 due to being a double battle (yeah) + the 50% of this number, so it will go up to 72

    • @furiouscorgi6614
      @furiouscorgi6614 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      95 base power, *2.25 for STAB and rain, *0.5 for Gen 3 silly, you're still putting out over 100 Power

    • @ch3rry833
      @ch3rry833 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@furiouscorgi6614 I was talking just about base power! I didn't include the STAB in the calc. x0.5 for spread moves is silly yeah

  • @briansilva3765
    @briansilva3765 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And somehow this isn't the toughest challenge Genius Sonority came up with. I want to see someone beat Pokémon Battle Revolution, Stargazer Colosseum Round 8 with only Rentals. Of course it isn't possible with the ones you start with, but after beating the game once, Gateway Colosseum becomes a Battle Factory of sorts, where after you defeat a trainer, you can trade permanently one of your Pokémon with them, and on the higher rounds this give competitive Pokémon. But Stargazer Round 8 is tough even with optimal teams, so despite having good Mons, it still is a nightmare to complete.

  • @treehann
    @treehann 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love these videos! I’m subbing for more living dex gen 3!

  • @pinkducklett1051
    @pinkducklett1051 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's actually so cool to see someone learn battling through Colosseum's Mt. Battle

  • @c0wqu3u31at3r
    @c0wqu3u31at3r ปีที่แล้ว +1

    doing this and getting the Ho-Oh still ranks in my top 10 life achievements

  • @135forte
    @135forte ปีที่แล้ว +31

    I was worried you had given up on this, but based on the video length this leg just tool half past forever to do.
    Edit: And you discovering battling is hilarious, all it took was the hardest main line game.

    • @SethJV
      @SethJV ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That's literally a spin-off though. It's not even made by Game Freak.

  • @xarchist
    @xarchist ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "This challenge is so hard I didn't want to attempt it....Here are some restrictions to make the challenge harder." 🙂

  • @monopolyrubix1875
    @monopolyrubix1875 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had the same experience where Kyogre guy was too dumb to bring it to the fight. Probably the most memorable part of the run tbh

  • @Following1000
    @Following1000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good job on finishing Mt. Battle and enjoying Colosseum!
    Kinda funny how your leads for this were Suicune and Raikou, and my leads were Suicune and Stantler. Stantler == Raikou I guess, I knew my boy could do it!

  • @SethJV
    @SethJV ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never finished the Mt Battle as a kid, stopped around 80-90 I think... Hopefully I can find my old memory cards to one day finish it.

  • @lightyagami3492
    @lightyagami3492 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just finished watching this whole series for a 2nd time on Friday so its nice to see a new video up so quickly.
    Also 1 hour gang here! 🎉

  • @kalkuttadrop6371
    @kalkuttadrop6371 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I literally just rewatchrd the OG colosseum video.
    And I’m doing a second(or third) run through to get all the rare berries

  • @sw33t.angela
    @sw33t.angela ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Few bits of advise:
    1) You should forgo Blizzard/Thunder for Ice Beam/Thunderbolt unless you have an accuracy improving item or plan on rain for Thunder. Effective power with accuracy is 84 vs Ice Beam/Thunderbolt's 95 base power at 100% accuracy. Not to mention, because it hits more often, you have more of a chance to proc a Paralyze/Freeze. In many situations, having a move be able to miss is the difference between your pokemon living or dying, so increased consistency is key.
    2) Your opening two pokemon lack any physical moves. When facing anything like Sunflora or Blissey, physical damage will do much more than special moves as their defense is extremly weak.
    3) If you think they are going to attack your pokemon, it can be wise to switch out to a pokemon that will deal with the attack or be completely immune to it. For example, the Electric attacks going after Suicune can instead be switched out to Flygon who is immune. Vs real competitive players, its not likely to be as effective but for this AI, they don't think about your other party pokemon.
    Also I HATE to be "that person" but it is CHIME-echo (its a bell chime) and Wobbuffet is Wah-buff-et.

  • @JulleLir
    @JulleLir ปีที่แล้ว +2

    18:25 It's not small.. It's definitely average, even above average

  • @markhenderson9507
    @markhenderson9507 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was almost twenty years ago since I did it, but I remember Mt. Battle not being hard, just VERY tedious. Specifically in the latter half I had to stop numerous times because it was so boring and no one could pose even a remote challenge.

  • @varenemerald
    @varenemerald ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the very best pokemon games. God I love this game.

  • @wyattwilson3036
    @wyattwilson3036 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are you planning to upload a vod of the run. I would like to see that

  • @Dairunt1
    @Dairunt1 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pokémon Colosseum was an entry drug to competitive battles and I'm so mad they didn't expand on it during the Wii era

  • @Skelatox
    @Skelatox ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh god, he actually did it. The madman.

    • @Skelatox
      @Skelatox ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh, and I can confirm, that Sunflora had a Lax Incense.

  • @itranscendencei7964
    @itranscendencei7964 ปีที่แล้ว

    14:09
    Somewhere in the world, SmallAnt is very proud right now.

  • @jmcbango
    @jmcbango ปีที่แล้ว

    9:22 funnily enough, the game actually shows you the thunder interaction in on of the battle sim discs in XD

  • @WebbedManiac
    @WebbedManiac ปีที่แล้ว

    23:11 Wow I think this might be the first time I've heard someone call it "Chime-cho". It's always been "Chime-echo" as far as I remember.

  • @DomyTheMad420
    @DomyTheMad420 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "salamence, some COMMON garbage"
    OI

  • @RednekGamurz
    @RednekGamurz ปีที่แล้ว +3

    To be fair, I think one of the later games explains that Rain Dance makes Thunder always hit, but I don't remember which one (maybe Gen 6 or 7). It is silly that it was present but never explained in the early games though. Also wow, this doesn't look too bad. I was expecting something like Stadium 2 with rentals only or something.

    • @domdude64dd
      @domdude64dd ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Stadium 2 Earl's academy explains about Rain Dance and Thunder, as well as Sunny Day and Solarbeam and many other combos like that and more

  • @JomasterTheSecond
    @JomasterTheSecond ปีที่แล้ว

    "Oonga-Boonga Mode" is just the best way to describe Pokemon combat nowadays, isn't it?

  • @azazel166
    @azazel166 ปีที่แล้ว

    I truly had no idea about the poke ball exploit, and I left no stone unturned in that game.

  • @Kali_Krause
    @Kali_Krause ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Gen 3 living dex is by far the most difficult. Afterward, gens 4 and 5 become a lot easier :)

  • @g-ratstickler3107
    @g-ratstickler3107 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I had a relatively easy time purifying all 48 shadows. What I did was I would play through the game, then when I would have to put the game down (such as for the night or to run errands, etc) I would do the Agate walking glitch with a full team of shadows with the pokemon with the biggest heart gauge in the day care. I would also use the day care during the playthrough to purify a pokemon passively.

  • @crumpscrumbs
    @crumpscrumbs ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Glad you enjoyed it. Hope you like Gale of Darkness

  • @alucardavathorn8930
    @alucardavathorn8930 ปีที่แล้ว

    27:23 "He's starting to believe"

  • @Leto85
    @Leto85 ปีที่แล้ว

    Congratualations on winning both Ho-oh ad, Jirachi, and getting Celebi as well. I havd Channel, so my Celdbi will come from there, but I'll have to beat the Elite Four for it first.
    If onlyb I could get Celebi the legit way as well.

  • @dylandevos1516
    @dylandevos1516 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another good video Lyra !

  • @RollsRyda
    @RollsRyda ปีที่แล้ว

    Love seeing colosseum making new fans still ❤️

  • @haridojamaru829
    @haridojamaru829 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jessie had the strongest Pokémon ever but didn’t know how to use it. With it she could beat a legendary