If it wasn't because i too watched the video i would call you a liar, but i watched it, and i know in all my pain, that he did put the damn tank at the back.
NL logic: you want your tank to stay alive so he can do his job as a tank as long as possible so you put them in the back where it's safer perfect sense
@@EvanWantsSoup Hellhorned/Awoken is a lot simpler than Awoken/Hellhorned because it's harder to find reliable ways of dealing damage and hellhorned armor is antisynergistic with awoken healing, which becomes more obvious when you're leaning into healing your doods. NL still hasn't wrapped his head around all the fundamentals, but I'm not surprised this one went worse than the first.
NL! Imp takes only one "space" on level, you can put units up to 5 "spaces" so you can have your champion (2 spaces) + another unit (with 2 spaces) and imp on same level!!! It pains me that you didn't play imp at 18:18
@@Northernlion I'm interested to see the other clans and the amount of possible synergies seems really high. I'm especially excited to see how NL experiments with different clan/deck combos. Also this year has been fire NL thank you
"This unit benefits a great deal from being healed." "I don't want to use heals for anything other than this unit" *consistently puts other units in front of it to protect it from taking damage* I love you, egg, but what the hell man
@@abelbeans he's playing in ascension 0, which as per developers commentary, is almost like a tutorial ascension. Ascension 1 is the actual intended gameplay for general purposes, but he can't even beat 0 yet lol
I'm literally watching this to see if I want to buy the game myself, I've never played it, and was able to figure that much out just by seeing the mechanics so far. How does this guy have almost 1,000,000 subscribers?
@@tenks360 It's pretty well known that watching a game be played and having to play a game while constantly trying to be entertaining/provide commentary are two very different things. It's obvious to us cuz we aren't having to worry about anything other than observing.
yep and he will always take +1 energy instead because of that. the +1 capacity is so good. he could put a 3 cap 2cap and imp or 3 2cap units on it but because he thinks(for now) only 2 units can be on the same floor I dont think he can get a win yet.
TBH I can't fault him for that one, most units seem to occupy 2 spots and you have 5 per floor? The way the UI shows it, it does look like there are 2 spots for units on each floor, you know?
I didn't realize that until I saw him mouse over a floor with two units in it already and it showed a third slot open up. I thought until then that you could only have two units per floor up to their size cap.
I've gone from seeing this game and thinking "its just a gimmick" to wishlisting the game and sharing it with my friends all because of NLs ability to sell anything. Thanks for the great series and keep it up brother
It literally tells you if a unit will die or not in the attack phase, there is no "i dont think it will live". It either will, or it wont, and it shows you so clearly.
Since everybody else covered the thing with the champion, I'll just remind you that Sting is this game's equivalent of shiv. You had some in the first episode, 0 cost, 10 damage to the front enemy. You were just extremely unfortunate to not come across any of the effects that give you stings.
Hey NL, you can place more than two monsters on the floor. The resource above their head is how much space you use. For example, the champion takes 2 spots so you can also have a steward and an imp. The welder imp took 1 space and the steward took 2 for a total of 5. This can be increased by the choice that gives you energy, cards, or space.
Yes. but due to starting capacity being 5 and most units costing 2, his initial observations were "two units per room", so he'll stick with that mindset for a while.
I discovered this game from your video of it, downloaded the demo, and have already played 7 hours of the demo. Amazing game, so glad to see it as a series!
Dear lord seeing old videos of people learning the game...really is just, wow, seeing the welder helper being not placed down twice on daedulus...its a one capacity, u have one spareeee.. But can’t wait to watch more
I've waited the entire day for this only to find a 31 minute episode?! Please NL, you can't make us love content so much and have us wait patiently for episodes like this!
Man, what a fascinating game. With the Lets Look At and Episode 1 I was thinking that this game's strength was mostly in it's visual aesthetic and presentation but I really think this episode demonstrates that there is a LOT of nuance as far as unit positioning, buff placement, card draw, and upgrade paths. As sad as I was to see Eden go, I really love watching and learning along as NL teases out the nuance in games like this.
The following comment is not meant as criticism for the series (which is great) or of NL as a person. It is written for other viewers to share my frustration and bond over a shared media experience. Up until 18:20 NL's placement had been questionable, but at that point it became blatantly obvious he don't understand the mechanics. You can have two branded demons and a wealder helper in the same rom, for maximum pog.
It is fun how he looked at his "cheat sheet" in order not to forget to thank the people for support. It's the egg we all know and love putting the effort to show his appreciation for his viewers xD
First thing said: We gotta put a big damage dealer in the back, and protect it with a good tank in front. First thing DONE: puts a 0 damage 20hp unit on the back, and a poor measly 8hp in front, to defend the obviously valuable 0 attack of the dps! So, time for more tips! -What you said is true! But please put it into practice! besides some chump-blocking imps or similar units from other clans, you want to have the bigger health unit on the front (generally, even if it's the one doing more damage or doing some utility, bigger health in front keeps all units alive longer.) Take the first boss in the first battle, your train steward can only take 2 attacks of 4 damage, so it dies only having done 5 damage to the boss. If the steward were behind your champion (who contributed nothing to the fight in your case). While if he was behind the champion, the steward would have been doing 5 damage repeatedly until the Sentinel dies, many turns later, resulting in much better damage. -Also, CAPACITY. The space your units occupy in the train is represented by "capacity", which are the little yellow buttons on top of the cards. Each floor of the train has a capacity limit (by default 5) represented on top-left of said floor. Usually units occupy 2 spaces (represented by 2 pips on top of the card) but some units are "massive" and take 3 or 4, possibly even more in extreme cases! And also, some units (usually support-like, the imps are an example) take just 1 space and are so easy to fit... even if you already have 2 regular units! You can upgrade capacity after the main bosses (which are always Daedalus and Fel, the ones that fly around before entering the train) instead of ember/energy or card draw, it's the third option! Also there are other options to upgrade capacity but are more centered in other clans, as I recall :) The ultimate maximum cap is actually 7 units, no matter how little the units are, or how upgraded your capacity is... you'll never see more than 7 units on any side of the train (also true for enemies, they can't fit more than 7).
Haha like the series NL. It is always fun to watch you slowly learn how to play the different styles and mechanics. Guess the length of the first episode scared you a bit because it felt like you didn't think through some of the mechanics this round (like your champion for example). Maybe if you feel the episodes are too long, split a whole round into two episode. Since the floors are quite separate I think it could work for this game until you have gotten faster with the mechanics. Two more small things; 1: Once in one of the shops you wanted to view your deck while choosing between two card, but didn't find where you could. Up to the left by your pyre's life is the deck button. 2: You are able to place more than two creatures on a floor. How many you can have on a floor depends on how much of those yellow circles they "cost". Keep up the great content.
Bought the game after watching episode 1 thinking I could do better. I was wrong and am constantly reminded that you are in fact a God gamer. Keep up the excellent work
Several random stuff that i've noticed about this one: 1. unless you use all five pips per floor (and you've tended to use 4/5 so far), imps are never a malus - they give you essentially one wall of damage block in front of your other units, in adition to their summon abilities. On the other hand, endless runes on imps (especially transcendimps) are a valid archetype. Letting a zero cost imp die really doesn't hurt you that much. 2. You don't get two units per floor, you get five pips. Most units you've used so far use 2, allowing for two regular units + one support or imp (or in the later games, the little guys that get eaten). Given how you tend to focus on lots of strong units, getting one extra capacity per floor actually fits your playstyle INSANELY well, essentially giving you place for an extra unit per floor 3. for the love of god, keep the spiked unit that constantly heals in the front to tank your hits 4. Generally, if you have 0 damage units that can last for a while, its bad form to keep them in the back - as the backliner is almost always bound to get more opportunities to attack, especially when bosses start hitting with their relentless trait ( for example, had your champion been in the front for the daedalus fight, it would have taken 3 hits to kill, dealing back 12 damage via thorns. Alll the while, the backliner would have been landing hits, giving you an aditional 3*3 damage for a total of 9. Then, the backliner would have gotten another hit off (or two, if rejuvenated), giving you an aditional 6 damage - and that all sums up to 27 damage, versus the 15 you did. This could have also been streched to at leas one more round with a welder helper. 5. I think you need to pay more attention to the thingy that tells you how much damage you and your enemies will take
All aboard the Train of Misplays! Where we put our tanks on the back and don't check how much space each unit actually takes! Jokes aside love this series keep it up!
NL...you could’ve put the imp in any floor with one capacity left. It could’ve gone with both of the demons on the same floor for example. :/ you’ll figure it out eventually.
Episode 2 and it's already my favorite thing to watch on TH-cam. Love it! Also it's really gonna pog off when NL starts putting 3 guys per floor. Also it seems like that +1 capacity per floor upgrade would be extremely useful. Can't wait to buy this!
haven't left a comment here before but just want to say big fan of this game in the regular rotation and your youtube and twitch have been nice to have during quarantine, keep up the great stuff!
Late to the party, but just voicing my great pleasure at seeing this series. The dopamine hit from the pog levels in these videos is so huge that my brain is going to explode in a rain of pogs. Thank you Eggfather for the blessed Monster Train, and may the Pogs continue!
Something something greatest salesmen... But seriously ennel's fundamental misunderstanding of pretty much everything he had going for him this run made me resolve to buy this game on release.
there is a free demo of it on steam (where you can play close to the content NL has so far aka 2 factions and some events and a set amount of enemies) but if you invest time in you notice more mistakes ;_;
@@mattchamp1541 yeah beta closed. But there is a FREE DEMO on the STEAM PAGE. Seriously, the content is pretty much the same of the public beta, but it's a demo and it's on steam.
Hey NL! Love the new series, and all the changes and positive attitude on youtube/twitch! Been watching you for ~8 years! Hoping for another great 8, cheers!
NL! You can put any amount of units in a floor as long as there is energy. You have five energy per floor to begin with which means you could put the imp and two of those units. So don't be afraid to grab an extra energy per floor since then you can place three normal units on each floor. Also I don't know if you noticed but spikes don't get reduced like rage and regen. They stay at the same amount through the entire fight.
even with me having knowledge of this game, this is still super enjoyable to watch. yes, NL repeatedly placed his tank in the back; so what! we're still in the beginning of the series, watching NL learn the mechanics and figure stuff out if at least half of the fun!
Putting the Champion from this faction in the back is totally a fine option, but only once you've upgraded her to be Explosive even more, and once you've got a better tank option. (my fav so far is her in the back, and with the dude that gets bonus Max HP, and Spikes whenever he's healed in the front, and then you heal him whenever you DON'T need to damage the enemies in the line any further as they'll die, and heal the chick whenever you need to damage the enemies)
Floor capacity and rear tank has been covered pretty well, but the Sting/Spikes confusion also unpogged me. He had Sting in the previous run! It seems like this tank at the front buffed with spikes would be a nice combo.
Yeah, of course. Go ahead and put that 0/20 champ behind the weaker units that CAN attack. Especially after saying "I gotta put my tank in front" right beforehand. At this point I'm not even getting frustrated by that anymore, just another "oh silly egg" moment. The payoff when he actually DOES learn is worth it, and I am proud everytime I follow one of these series and I see his progress.
I was actually really impressed with NL's card game prowess yesterday, guess the lesson to be taken here is to not overclock your brain Still a pog series don't let it get you down :)
Trying not to backseat as I played a lot of this in Beta. One thing I will say is that Endless on Imps is pretty awesome. You can kill them with a Torch and get their summon Ability over and over again. Important note: You may play more than two Units on a floor. Your Imps often are the perfect size to fill up a floor if you don't want to do any Capacity upgrades. The Size stat on units is important but not always intuitive. It is at the very top of the card.
Loving the series so far! It looks to me like the champion you took this episode would prefer to soak attacks up front, so you can heal him and keep the lower health units safe. Can't wait for the next episode NL!
Hey NL quick tip, you can play more than 2 creatures per row if there is enough "row energy" for them. A lot of the imps are helpful since they only cost 1 row energy. You could have the welder imp with the 2 rage demons one the same row.
Loving the series so far, can't wait for you to try all the factions. Spreading spores can be a win condition practically on its own but it needs some support esp. reducing its cost, so look out for it in later runs.
Tip to make things easier, since I haven't seen anyone else mention it!!!: The game tells you how much damage a unit is taking or if a unit is going to die right next to its HP! So if you see a red X next to their HP it means they're currently going to die if you don't change something. Then it updates as you place units or cast spells. This generally helps me since I never seem to remember that the enemies attack first hahaha.
So, there's a free demo for the game, and I'm really enjoying it. Probably gonna have to buy the full release, and just hope my progress (unlocks) carry over. A couple things I noted playing through a few runs (Only with the hellblade and awoken class/ally options) is that there seems to be a lot of potential strategies, but some rely on getting certain upgrades or relics and if you go through a few rings without getting those improvements you just kinda die. Obviously extra class options and card unlocks will maybe help with that, but I worry there might just be a 'best' way to play/build the decks and it'll become too same-y playing further runs. A huge positive regarding replay value and adding challenge is the option to play runs with Covenant levels. Basically, it's this games' version of the ascension mechanic from Slay the Spire. Only able to access the first level with the demo version, but it shows what might come at higher Covenant levels. The first level makes enemies tougher and also adds random cards to your deck, which either means you have to remove a bunch of random crappy cards, or adjust your deck building to make use of them. I've tried both options with the random cards, and it seems like trying to make a specific build work with the random cards is a lot harder than just removing them and building a more consistent/regular deck. I'm by no means an expert on these kinds of games, just very into StS haha. I think there is enough depth to the game to warrant buying it, but if you want the same depth and consistency of Slay the Spire, this game won't quite scratch that itch. It's a clean, streamlined game similar to StS, but it loses some of the mechanical nuance and maybe some of the replay-ability. I want to say thanks to NL for bringing it to my attention; I know I'll sink at least a few dozen hours into it, maybe hundreds. Oh, and I'll totally watch the egg man messing up and missing things for as long as he makes videos on it haha P.S. I'll try and message the devs if this isn't changed in the full version, but in case they read this: the visuals of the game are great, but the moving background is a little overwhelming and I'd like an option to have a more static background (I know it's a moving train, but it makes me a little nauseous). Also, an option to skip the combat animations would be nice; even on ultra speed mode they just seem to go on for ages.
POGGED out of my gourd to see the progression I know will come soon in this series. Just enjoying the feeling of not knowing what the heck is going on for a while longer alongside NL. Keep up the amazing content brother
I'm pretty sure I would've missed this game if Ryan didn't cover it. Just played through the demo twice and it already feels very fleshed out even with just two factions available. This looks to be an exciting one.
Hey NL, I know it sounds reasonable to protect your champion, but for someone like the Sentient, it’s not really optimal. Considering her high HP and 0 Attack, she’s better suited to soaking damage in the front and letting other units deal damage from the back. If it helps, you can view her as a 0 Cost wall. Also, the imps can be useful since they’re basically free spells costing only 0 to deploy. Because of their 1 Capacity, it also gives them a niche for the instances where you have 4/5 Capacity in a room. Plus, if you intentionally kill one of your imps using something like the Torch spell, it frees up capacity for another imp and its Summon effect. Just wanted to put my two cents in. Hoping to see you improve your play!
NL, you don’t just have 2 unit slots on each floor. There is a maximum “heat” you can play on each floor so you can sometimes play 3 units on a floor. Especially the welder helper who only has 1 heat
Pog rain etc etc. This game deserves a bespoke pog comment. I'm so impressed with the amount of depth and quality in this game and it really seems to live up to spire in a lot of ways which is no mean feat. Day 1 purchase all going well
I’m glad to be using TH-cam Premium on NL. Super worth it because of no ads and glad it can support such a POGGED up dude like you. I usually watch full length of the majority of your vids so I hope it helps!
Nl: Gets a tank as a champion that does damage when healed
Nl: Put the tank behind his damage dealers
Also NL: Puts his demon in front of the husk too...
Yeh that made me sooo mad :/
Confirmed: NL was the military advisor for the Battle of Winterfell.
If it wasn't because i too watched the video i would call you a liar, but i watched it, and i know in all my pain, that he did put the damn tank at the back.
@@1Cirmag put... put the trebuchets on the front line
I am witnessing esport legend NL put his tank in the back line. Chat plz hold me
That hurt my heart every time he did it. Like, the minion with no attack and is meant to be healed, should be at the FRONT. Smh
considering he played last episode pretty alright, I'm kinda blown away by how he did this one....
Excuse me, his esports legend persona is called "Northern" ou "North Million"
NL logic: you want your tank to stay alive so he can do his job as a tank as long as possible
so you put them in the back where it's safer
perfect sense
@@EvanWantsSoup Hellhorned/Awoken is a lot simpler than Awoken/Hellhorned because it's harder to find reliable ways of dealing damage and hellhorned armor is antisynergistic with awoken healing, which becomes more obvious when you're leaning into healing your doods. NL still hasn't wrapped his head around all the fundamentals, but I'm not surprised this one went worse than the first.
"i learned i gotta put my tank in front", first play of the game he puts the tank in the back lol
Leo Rodriguez this is so hard to watch... it made me scream at my display -.-
a part of me died everytime i saw him put that 0/20 champion in the back even tho it benefits from being healed
... But what if the enemy tried backstabbing? Kappa
EVERY* play of the game
Then go brother
NL! Imp takes only one "space" on level, you can put units up to 5 "spaces" so you can have your champion (2 spaces) + another unit (with 2 spaces) and imp on same level!!! It pains me that you didn't play imp at 18:18
if you upgrade the space enough you can have up to 7 units on 1 floor
Same... and upgrading space is so powerful. It’s the most limited resource by far. Spells vs units not even a competition.
Thank you sir that was killing me
It took me a while to realise that NL thought you could only have 2 units per floor
@@Lastielion I honestly thought the same thing
Not gonna lie, this game is really fun to watch while at the same time learning about the game.
Thank you!
@@Northernlion I'm interested to see the other clans and the amount of possible synergies seems really high. I'm especially excited to see how NL experiments with different clan/deck combos.
Also this year has been fire NL thank you
Oh boy, Monster Tries, my favorite series.
Those monsters put in a lot of effort, how kind of the title to recognize that work.
I want more
EVENNNNNN MOREEEEE also great job keep it up
Is this sarcasm?
I had to rewind and make sure I heard him right XD
"This unit benefits a great deal from being healed."
"I don't want to use heals for anything other than this unit"
*consistently puts other units in front of it to protect it from taking damage*
I love you, egg, but what the hell man
This is why they gotta bump the difficulty in this game. Not fun to watch 95% suboptimal plays lol
@@abelbeans he's playing in ascension 0, which as per developers commentary, is almost like a tutorial ascension. Ascension 1 is the actual intended gameplay for general purposes, but he can't even beat 0 yet lol
@@Jonjon13Jonjon13 Well, it is only his 3rd time playing. It takes some time for an egg to go from soft boiled to hard boiled.
Thanks for the defense Gruntmaster, you're a legend
@@Jonjon13Jonjon13 ahhh that explains the low difficulty then. Hyped for this release
"I want a tankier unit to protect our champion"
Plz, my egg, he is very sick.
The dementia is taking root, and it's made his channel all the more popular xD
@@nomoturtle1788 big boomer energy
The day NL realizes you can play an imp along with 2 regular units I'm going to pog out.
Its gonna happen tomorrow, calling it.
Not quite tomorrow but soon
Northernlion episode 33 because of the back log
I'm literally watching this to see if I want to buy the game myself, I've never played it, and was able to figure that much out just by seeing the mechanics so far. How does this guy have almost 1,000,000 subscribers?
@@tenks360 It's pretty well known that watching a game be played and having to play a game while constantly trying to be entertaining/provide commentary are two very different things. It's obvious to us cuz we aren't having to worry about anything other than observing.
So, NL has internalised that one can only put up 2 units on each row, disregarding the energy each unit takes up. :b
yep and he will always take +1 energy instead because of that. the +1 capacity is so good. he could put a 3 cap 2cap and imp or 3 2cap units on it but because he thinks(for now) only 2 units can be on the same floor I dont think he can get a win yet.
TBH I can't fault him for that one, most units seem to occupy 2 spots and you have 5 per floor? The way the UI shows it, it does look like there are 2 spots for units on each floor, you know?
I didn't realize that until I saw him mouse over a floor with two units in it already and it showed a third slot open up. I thought until then that you could only have two units per floor up to their size cap.
@@umbaupause Sort of, except enemy units stack 3 to a floor all the time, so there's no excuse for thinking the physical cap is 2.
@@ThePeteyGunn I was just as confused as he was about what that reward symbol was!
I've gone from seeing this game and thinking "its just a gimmick" to wishlisting the game and sharing it with my friends all because of NLs ability to sell anything. Thanks for the great series and keep it up brother
Glad to hear it!
I remember when NL would say "hey" before "everybody"
this is just more efficient ;)
A natural progression
It literally tells you if a unit will die or not in the attack phase, there is no "i dont think it will live". It either will, or it wont, and it shows you so clearly.
Since everybody else covered the thing with the champion, I'll just remind you that Sting is this game's equivalent of shiv. You had some in the first episode, 0 cost, 10 damage to the front enemy. You were just extremely unfortunate to not come across any of the effects that give you stings.
Bro the POGS/s in this series has reached never before seen levels.
This is honestly my favorite series right now, I can't wait to get this game. Thanks for making me aware of it!
Thanks Matthew!
@@Northernlion ❤
Hey NL, you can place more than two monsters on the floor. The resource above their head is how much space you use. For example, the champion takes 2 spots so you can also have a steward and an imp. The welder imp took 1 space and the steward took 2 for a total of 5. This can be increased by the choice that gives you energy, cards, or space.
Did you watch episode 1 ? He knows...
@@pigggy2313 Clearly not. He wasn't playing Welder Helper because he thought his floors could only hold 2 units max.
20:00 the welder helper costs only 1 capacity, so fits next to the two demon lords, doesn't it?
Yes but I think somewhere he just thought he could only put 2 units on each floor rather than up to capacity.
Yes. but due to starting capacity being 5 and most units costing 2, his initial observations were "two units per room", so he'll stick with that mindset for a while.
@@Orillion123456 *Ichi spam intensifies*
I discovered this game from your video of it, downloaded the demo, and have already played 7 hours of the demo. Amazing game, so glad to see it as a series!
Dear lord seeing old videos of people learning the game...really is just, wow, seeing the welder helper being not placed down twice on daedulus...its a one capacity, u have one spareeee..
But can’t wait to watch more
Northerlion changing the meta of all mmorpgs puting the tank behind the dps, truly an innovator
This is my favourite new series of the year! It is a great deck building roguelite! It’s absolutely encouraged me to buy this when it comes out!
I've waited the entire day for this only to find a 31 minute episode?! Please NL, you can't make us love content so much and have us wait patiently for episodes like this!
Man, what a fascinating game. With the Lets Look At and Episode 1 I was thinking that this game's strength was mostly in it's visual aesthetic and presentation but I really think this episode demonstrates that there is a LOT of nuance as far as unit positioning, buff placement, card draw, and upgrade paths. As sad as I was to see Eden go, I really love watching and learning along as NL teases out the nuance in games like this.
NL: "we don't have a tanky unit to protect the warrior"
ME (red in the face and yelling at the screen): "Your champion! YOUR CHAMPION!"
The following comment is not meant as criticism for the series (which is great) or of NL as a person. It is written for other viewers to share my frustration and bond over a shared media experience.
Up until 18:20 NL's placement had been questionable, but at that point it became blatantly obvious he don't understand the mechanics.
You can have two branded demons and a wealder helper in the same rom, for maximum pog.
Honesty kinda glad you got bodied in this episode, knowing that things can go wrong quickly is gonna make for a much better viewing experience
18:24 when he finally got welder imp and didnt play him i actually cried a little
why can he not understand that all 3 can fit on a floor this week old vid making me angy
15:55
NL, who uses a tank champion: "I want tankier unit to protect our champion"
Oh how like you NL 🤣
It is fun how he looked at his "cheat sheet" in order not to forget to thank the people for support. It's the egg we all know and love putting the effort to show his appreciation for his viewers xD
Dude I friggin love this game so much, bought the game and played a bit myself and now coming back to watch all of these.
I have been so excited for another episode! I hope this series goes on as long as Slay the Spire
First thing said: We gotta put a big damage dealer in the back, and protect it with a good tank in front.
First thing DONE: puts a 0 damage 20hp unit on the back, and a poor measly 8hp in front, to defend the obviously valuable 0 attack of the dps!
So, time for more tips!
-What you said is true! But please put it into practice! besides some chump-blocking imps or similar units from other clans, you want to have the bigger health unit on the front (generally, even if it's the one doing more damage or doing some utility, bigger health in front keeps all units alive longer.)
Take the first boss in the first battle, your train steward can only take 2 attacks of 4 damage, so it dies only having done 5 damage to the boss. If the steward were behind your champion (who contributed nothing to the fight in your case). While if he was behind the champion, the steward would have been doing 5 damage repeatedly until the Sentinel dies, many turns later, resulting in much better damage.
-Also, CAPACITY. The space your units occupy in the train is represented by "capacity", which are the little yellow buttons on top of the cards. Each floor of the train has a capacity limit (by default 5) represented on top-left of said floor. Usually units occupy 2 spaces (represented by 2 pips on top of the card) but some units are "massive" and take 3 or 4, possibly even more in extreme cases!
And also, some units (usually support-like, the imps are an example) take just 1 space and are so easy to fit... even if you already have 2 regular units!
You can upgrade capacity after the main bosses (which are always Daedalus and Fel, the ones that fly around before entering the train) instead of ember/energy or card draw, it's the third option! Also there are other options to upgrade capacity but are more centered in other clans, as I recall :)
The ultimate maximum cap is actually 7 units, no matter how little the units are, or how upgraded your capacity is... you'll never see more than 7 units on any side of the train (also true for enemies, they can't fit more than 7).
Excited for the series! Even more excited for the series after we hit the point where floor capacity is recognized
the amount of slay the spire PTSD im getting is unreal and yet im pogged out of my mind
Haha like the series NL. It is always fun to watch you slowly learn how to play the different styles and mechanics. Guess the length of the first episode scared you a bit because it felt like you didn't think through some of the mechanics this round (like your champion for example). Maybe if you feel the episodes are too long, split a whole round into two episode. Since the floors are quite separate I think it could work for this game until you have gotten faster with the mechanics. Two more small things;
1: Once in one of the shops you wanted to view your deck while choosing between two card, but didn't find where you could. Up to the left by your pyre's life is the deck button.
2: You are able to place more than two creatures on a floor. How many you can have on a floor depends on how much of those yellow circles they "cost".
Keep up the great content.
Hes the greatest salesman of all time. I have to buy this game now. Just so I can play 3 units on every floor and place my tanks in front.
I’m excited for this episode every day now. Thanks for keeping playing it
Bought the game after watching episode 1 thinking I could do better. I was wrong and am constantly reminded that you are in fact a God gamer. Keep up the excellent work
Several random stuff that i've noticed about this one:
1. unless you use all five pips per floor (and you've tended to use 4/5 so far), imps are never a malus - they give you essentially one wall of damage block in front of your other units, in adition to their summon abilities. On the other hand, endless runes on imps (especially transcendimps) are a valid archetype. Letting a zero cost imp die really doesn't hurt you that much.
2. You don't get two units per floor, you get five pips. Most units you've used so far use 2, allowing for two regular units + one support or imp (or in the later games, the little guys that get eaten). Given how you tend to focus on lots of strong units, getting one extra capacity per floor actually fits your playstyle INSANELY well, essentially giving you place for an extra unit per floor
3. for the love of god, keep the spiked unit that constantly heals in the front to tank your hits
4. Generally, if you have 0 damage units that can last for a while, its bad form to keep them in the back - as the backliner is almost always bound to get more opportunities to attack, especially when bosses start hitting with their relentless trait ( for example, had your champion been in the front for the daedalus fight, it would have taken 3 hits to kill, dealing back 12 damage via thorns. Alll the while, the backliner would have been landing hits, giving you an aditional 3*3 damage for a total of 9. Then, the backliner would have gotten another hit off (or two, if rejuvenated), giving you an aditional 6 damage - and that all sums up to 27 damage, versus the 15 you did. This could have also been streched to at leas one more round with a welder helper.
5. I think you need to pay more attention to the thingy that tells you how much damage you and your enemies will take
Can't wait to see him completely master the game within the next 300+ episodes, I'm along for the ride!
So glad you made this a series!!
I am really excited for this game.
This is really good. Been on a dekbuilder/roguelite hunger recently and it's nice that you're delivering!
All aboard the Train of Misplays! Where we put our tanks on the back and don't check how much space each unit actually takes!
Jokes aside love this series keep it up!
NL...you could’ve put the imp in any floor with one capacity left. It could’ve gone with both of the demons on the same floor for example. :/ you’ll figure it out eventually.
Episode 2 and it's already my favorite thing to watch on TH-cam. Love it! Also it's really gonna pog off when NL starts putting 3 guys per floor. Also it seems like that +1 capacity per floor upgrade would be extremely useful. Can't wait to buy this!
i wasn't sure if anything could fill the eden shaped void in my heart but this is doing it. hope the algorithm treats you the same !
Keep up the good work NL, loving this series :)
Despite all the suboptimal plays, mad respect to you for going in on the bonus objectives early. Keep up the fantastic content!
haven't left a comment here before but just want to say big fan of this game in the regular rotation and your youtube and twitch have been nice to have during quarantine, keep up the great stuff!
Late to the party, but just voicing my great pleasure at seeing this series. The dopamine hit from the pog levels in these videos is so huge that my brain is going to explode in a rain of pogs. Thank you Eggfather for the blessed Monster Train, and may the Pogs continue!
Something something greatest salesmen...
But seriously ennel's fundamental misunderstanding of pretty much everything he had going for him this run made me resolve to buy this game on release.
there is a free demo of it on steam (where you can play close to the content NL has so far aka 2 factions and some events and a set amount of enemies) but if you invest time in you notice more mistakes ;_;
@@ThePeteyGunn beta closed a couple weeks ago
@@mattchamp1541 yeah beta closed. But there is a FREE DEMO on the STEAM PAGE. Seriously, the content is pretty much the same of the public beta, but it's a demo and it's on steam.
i'm absolutely in love with this game and this series. keep it up brother
So glad you're doing this series, man. Thanks for the sick content
Really glad you made this a series! Excited to see more play styles and mechanics!
NL finding great games to go along with his great commentary. Love the series so far, even if its only 2 episodes in.
Hey NL! Love the new series, and all the changes and positive attitude on youtube/twitch! Been watching you for ~8 years! Hoping for another great 8, cheers!
Dude this is like my most favourite new series! I hope it lasts a while.
Loving this game! Really fun to watch. Hope this series goes on for a while
NL! You can put any amount of units in a floor as long as there is energy. You have five energy per floor to begin with which means you could put the imp and two of those units. So don't be afraid to grab an extra energy per floor since then you can place three normal units on each floor.
Also I don't know if you noticed but spikes don't get reduced like rage and regen. They stay at the same amount through the entire fight.
I love the series by the way. I can't wait for your next episodes. Pogged up beyond belief but I want my eggy boi to clutch his first win.
even with me having knowledge of this game, this is still super enjoyable to watch. yes, NL repeatedly placed his tank in the back; so what! we're still in the beginning of the series, watching NL learn the mechanics and figure stuff out if at least half of the fun!
i love this game im gonna listen to every episode of this series while i play it
Putting the Champion from this faction in the back is totally a fine option, but only once you've upgraded her to be Explosive even more, and once you've got a better tank option. (my fav so far is her in the back, and with the dude that gets bonus Max HP, and Spikes whenever he's healed in the front, and then you heal him whenever you DON'T need to damage the enemies in the line any further as they'll die, and heal the chick whenever you need to damage the enemies)
Floor capacity and rear tank has been covered pretty well, but the Sting/Spikes confusion also unpogged me. He had Sting in the previous run! It seems like this tank at the front buffed with spikes would be a nice combo.
This is the most excited I've been for a new series in a long time! It's a lot of fun to watch
Yeah, of course. Go ahead and put that 0/20 champ behind the weaker units that CAN attack. Especially after saying "I gotta put my tank in front" right beforehand.
At this point I'm not even getting frustrated by that anymore, just another "oh silly egg" moment. The payoff when he actually DOES learn is worth it, and I am proud everytime I follow one of these series and I see his progress.
I was actually really impressed with NL's card game prowess yesterday, guess the lesson to be taken here is to not overclock your brain
Still a pog series don't let it get you down :)
I have been itching for more of this. SO PUMPED! Thanks NL!
This seems like a cool game and it's very entertaining to watch you play it. Thanks NL!
I’m really enjoying this series and I’m super excited to learn the series alongside NL
Trying not to backseat as I played a lot of this in Beta. One thing I will say is that Endless on Imps is pretty awesome. You can kill them with a Torch and get their summon Ability over and over again.
Important note: You may play more than two Units on a floor. Your Imps often are the perfect size to fill up a floor if you don't want to do any Capacity upgrades. The Size stat on units is important but not always intuitive. It is at the very top of the card.
The eggfather has done it again. Played a game i never would have heard of, nor cared for... now i am going to buy it as soon as it's out on steam.
Putting the monster that needs heals in the back is some serious pog
There has never, and will never be enough deck builder rouge-likes to satiate NLs never ending hunger for them.
Loving the series so far! It looks to me like the champion you took this episode would prefer to soak attacks up front, so you can heal him and keep the lower health units safe. Can't wait for the next episode NL!
NL: “I should protect my tanky units with my attack units!”
I'm loving this series!
High quality video, high quality series, high quality game
Hey NL quick tip, you can play more than 2 creatures per row if there is enough "row energy" for them. A lot of the imps are helpful since they only cost 1 row energy. You could have the welder imp with the 2 rage demons one the same row.
I'm so glad NL is making this series! This game looks so good and fun definitely a must play!
I know that deckbuilders are NLs kryptonite but the way he played this was astonishingly painful to witness.
Loving the series so far, can't wait for you to try all the factions. Spreading spores can be a win condition practically on its own but it needs some support esp. reducing its cost, so look out for it in later runs.
Tip to make things easier, since I haven't seen anyone else mention it!!!: The game tells you how much damage a unit is taking or if a unit is going to die right next to its HP! So if you see a red X next to their HP it means they're currently going to die if you don't change something. Then it updates as you place units or cast spells. This generally helps me since I never seem to remember that the enemies attack first hahaha.
So, there's a free demo for the game, and I'm really enjoying it. Probably gonna have to buy the full release, and just hope my progress (unlocks) carry over. A couple things I noted playing through a few runs (Only with the hellblade and awoken class/ally options) is that there seems to be a lot of potential strategies, but some rely on getting certain upgrades or relics and if you go through a few rings without getting those improvements you just kinda die. Obviously extra class options and card unlocks will maybe help with that, but I worry there might just be a 'best' way to play/build the decks and it'll become too same-y playing further runs.
A huge positive regarding replay value and adding challenge is the option to play runs with Covenant levels. Basically, it's this games' version of the ascension mechanic from Slay the Spire. Only able to access the first level with the demo version, but it shows what might come at higher Covenant levels. The first level makes enemies tougher and also adds random cards to your deck, which either means you have to remove a bunch of random crappy cards, or adjust your deck building to make use of them. I've tried both options with the random cards, and it seems like trying to make a specific build work with the random cards is a lot harder than just removing them and building a more consistent/regular deck.
I'm by no means an expert on these kinds of games, just very into StS haha. I think there is enough depth to the game to warrant buying it, but if you want the same depth and consistency of Slay the Spire, this game won't quite scratch that itch. It's a clean, streamlined game similar to StS, but it loses some of the mechanical nuance and maybe some of the replay-ability.
I want to say thanks to NL for bringing it to my attention; I know I'll sink at least a few dozen hours into it, maybe hundreds. Oh, and I'll totally watch the egg man messing up and missing things for as long as he makes videos on it haha
P.S. I'll try and message the devs if this isn't changed in the full version, but in case they read this: the visuals of the game are great, but the moving background is a little overwhelming and I'd like an option to have a more static background (I know it's a moving train, but it makes me a little nauseous). Also, an option to skip the combat animations would be nice; even on ultra speed mode they just seem to go on for ages.
"Hey everybody, welcome back to Monster Tries" - NL, a mind flooded egg - 2020
Glad to see more of this series!
POGGED out of my gourd to see the progression I know will come soon in this series. Just enjoying the feeling of not knowing what the heck is going on for a while longer alongside NL. Keep up the amazing content brother
imagine for a moment putting your tanky unit who does no damage BEHIND your squishy unit who does damage
Finally, another series where the egg lord makes a painful amount of misplays :)
NL, I love this series, i love seeing your misplays and when you discover your misplays
i mean he didnt really discover the misplays, for the whole 32 mins he did play tank in the back...
I'm pretty sure I would've missed this game if Ryan didn't cover it. Just played through the demo twice and it already feels very fleshed out even with just two factions available. This looks to be an exciting one.
I'm glad this game is getting another play
Hey NL, I know it sounds reasonable to protect your champion, but for someone like the Sentient, it’s not really optimal. Considering her high HP and 0 Attack, she’s better suited to soaking damage in the front and letting other units deal damage from the back. If it helps, you can view her as a 0 Cost wall.
Also, the imps can be useful since they’re basically free spells costing only 0 to deploy. Because of their 1 Capacity, it also gives them a niche for the instances where you have 4/5 Capacity in a room. Plus, if you intentionally kill one of your imps using something like the Torch spell, it frees up capacity for another imp and its Summon effect.
Just wanted to put my two cents in. Hoping to see you improve your play!
NL, you don’t just have 2 unit slots on each floor. There is a maximum “heat” you can play on each floor so you can sometimes play 3 units on a floor. Especially the welder helper who only has 1 heat
Also you kept playing units in front of your 0 attack champion, you want high attack units in the back
There's Monster time board game.... and then there's this game. Monster Train. I can't wait for this release.
Tank in the back line, thinking he can only put 2 units per floor
It do be episode 2 of a new game
Pog rain etc etc. This game deserves a bespoke pog comment. I'm so impressed with the amount of depth and quality in this game and it really seems to live up to spire in a lot of ways which is no mean feat. Day 1 purchase all going well
This video is the perfect expression of the difference between Int and Wis.
I’m glad to be using TH-cam Premium on NL. Super worth it because of no ads and glad it can support such a POGGED up dude like you. I usually watch full length of the majority of your vids so I hope it helps!
This series is getting me all pogged up