I played Freedoom Phases 1 and 2 a while back. I wasn't able to appreciate the art direction and aesthetic style back then. Fast forward to now, you can find Doom mods that incorporate some of Freedoom's art assets (CC0, I think). Freedoom is still in development even until today (have yet to reach version 1.0, due to sprite work needing changes and map redesigns). I agree the maps currently aren't intuitive, but here's hoping to more people contributing to Freedoom.
If you look carefully in the video during the part where I'm showing Golden Souls 2 you'll see the old model of the "Imp" replacement. That's something that's already gotten a lot better. I do optimistically look forward to the future of Freedoom.
> the maps currently aren't intuitive well thats utterly BS. P1 & P2 have better & cohesive maps design even compared to some joke maps by authistic casali bros in plutonia.
@@UtterSpartan you don't have any idea how you hit home with the 3rd world country state I'm from India and boy dp some of my friends need something to look forward to, i mean the fucking condition of even above average households is just shameful. And this engine is one of the few things we can enjoy while still not having a pc or a console
The "Free" part in Freedoom refers to freedom, not price. It's about providing the Doom modding community with an independent base that isn't under the control of a corporation or any one person. You kind of figure it out within the video but I don't think it fully clicked. "Free" means two different things in the English language - in other languages like Spanish, "libre" and "gratis" mean different things.
It speaks great volumes about my cognitive abilities that only now I noticed the 'doom' in the title. I always though it was just called 'Freedom'. Love your videos, by the way.
Freedoom is legendary in what it stands for and what it does. I believe everyone should have acsess to such a thing, be given the keys to such an incredible world of gameplay and modding for free is awesome. Though in the end it's just as easy to download the real WADs from any number of fan sites and play that way, so you can get the real thing, and pay no money for it whatsoever. Doom shouldn't cost money anymore at all. I'd much rather just yoink the real thing instead of this. But in the end, so long as the most amount of people possible can have the chance to enter the world that is Doom and Doom modding for free, that's all that matters. Truly one of the greatest games of all time.
I totally agree with the ending. ZDaemon has been there for me when I felt I had nothing. No matter who you are, or where you live, you can always find at LEAST 2 or 3 active servers, and what really gets me to tears is how even if it's just 1 or 2 people on it, they are always welcoming to their fellow slayers. You can go in and not say a word as you grind away killing baddies, or sometimes, if you decide to chat and open up about your life, you can sometimes find someone, provided they speak English (people fron countries you didn't even know existed play) that will listen. Because that's who we are. We're brothers in DooM. We all enjoy the game, and share that one identical goal of escaping reality. Sometimes you'll join a server and everyone's just staring at walls cause they're holding a conversation in chat instead. I've made a few friends there that although I had no clue who they are, they're now facebook friends who tell me Happy Birthday more than my real ones. Who am I kidding, they ARE the real ones. For a game about hell and demons, it honestly has the most blessed community. If you ever find yourself feeling down and out, please know that there are servers just WAITING for you to visit, and there is an abundance of maps, WADs, and map building software to keep you entertained for life. Slay on, space marines.
I was originally gonna comment about how cool zdaemon looks and how I wish I could use it, but there isn't a version for mac then I thought, I might as well check again on the website, just to make sure before I post this comment *then I see there is a mac port, and I cannot explain how excited I am* do you know if the different platforms go together (so I, on mac, could play with windows people) instead of just window user + winder user, mac user + mac user, etc?
I used to play on y.a.n.g server many year ago , mainly blood and duke 3D but it was a decent crew of regular players from around the world and we were united in our love for these games
I'm always glad to see Freedoom get some recognition. The art can be kinda off at times but the ability to play wads like Scythe 1-2, D2TWID, and other more vanilla to Boom level wads is absolutely amazing. Also FreedoomGuy's face is kinda adorable honestly and it sets him apart from regular Doomguy in a way I like. He's got some pudge and dough in that mug of his despite doing all of what Doomguy can do and it's cute in a weird way.
Okay my guy I have been a doomer since 1996 so this taught me very little personally but can I just say THANK YOU for going through the hassle of explaining the fundamental infrastructure of doom. There is surprisingly little info out there and certainly even less in such a digestible way so new doomers and mappers I regularly catch have huge issues understanding how sourceports, wads, etc interconnect
That got weirdly wholesome towards the end. I agree though, in the age of companies wanting to suck up the very last drop off of your savings, it truly is underappreciated how great Doom community really is, the fact that you can get Freedoom completely for free and have thousands upon thousand of obviously free mods (because it is illegal to monetize them) that either enhance or completely modify the game into an entirely different game is remarkable, you have a near endless entertainment literally for free, not only that, the modding community only seems to get more and more active and creative with each year, while many other modding communities of other games die out, or the interest in them does. Thank you Doom and every single person involved into making this game and its community what it is.
FreeDoom is a great thing, even I can admit that, as much as I myself can't get any enjoyment from it. I'm not gonna share my own gripes about it here as that would end up being a whole long text wall, but I will share one thing. Because of the differences that *are* in FreeDoom, it *is not* compatible with all mods. The biggest issue that comes of this is that when you play online with, say, Zandronum. When the server calls for a vanilla map to be loaded it will try to load that map, then fail to verify that your map is the same as the one the server requested, then you get booted. There is no way around that other than to just not play on servers that don't have map packs installed. The second issue with the asset differences though is in the art; some ZDoom/Zandronum mods call upon art assets in your IWAD in order to manipulate them on the fly. A prime example of this is with Xaser's Parkour mod, which will have the weapon sprites looking cut up and mangled in weird and wonderful ways. Also, fun fact, pk3 files (only ever used in GZDoom as a replacement for the wad format) are actually just renamed zip files. You can seriously just rename a GZDoom mod from .pk3 to .zip and browse all the files in your normal file browser. Other engines however, have their own distinct formats that don't work like this, like Eternity's .pke format. c:
I've never attempted to use Freedoom with Zandronum, I admit. This should change in the future but so far like 99% of my Doom experience has been single player. The last time I played Zandronum most servers I could find were using some weird Modern Warfare 2 mod with bitcrushed sprites of all the weapons. That's my excuse for not knowing about that incompatibility. I played about 20 mods with Freedoom in preparation of doing this video. I never once had any issues. This ranged from weapon mods, to maps, to TCs. I wish I'd known about the Parkour mod issue ahead of time, but I also admit I've never used it. I am aware that Freedoom is still in development so maybe they could do something about that kind of error, but it sounds like it's more on Xaser to do something about it. I knew that .pk3 files were basically ZIP files but I didn't know they were literally renamed ZIP files. That's cool. I don't have much experience with The Eternity Engine but maybe someday I'll give it more of a fair shake. I tried to get it running once like 5 years ago and I failed hard. A lot has changed since then so hey, I'd like to see how it works. I hadn't heard of that unique format before. Thanks for the comment.
@@UtterSpartan Ah yeah, I know what Zandro mod you're talking about. Probably RGA2, which as far as I'm aware has fallen off in popularity because of how much it used to be played. I'll admit to enjoying it once upon a time, mostly just for the weapon feedback and for a quick power trip. I don't play it now though as I've actually gone back and reexperienced vanilla Doom good and proper, now I mostly just play on either Crispy Doom or GZDoom with the Smooth Doom mod, though I'm definitely no stranger to some of the wackier mods out there. Just check out Endless Madness if you want a taste of that. c: On the topic of engine-specific modding though, Eternity has a pretty nice showcase in the form of Heartland. Its "GZDoom UDMF map"-style map architecture is nothing short of impressive in an engine that's just upgraded Boom. I highly recommend it. On the other hand though, Doomsday Engine. Good luck running that full stop.
Yeah, anything that requires the original Doom assets isn't gonna work with FreeDoom unfortunately, so ofc Zandronum is out for vanilla maps, and mods like Brutal Doom, Demonsteele, and Parkour are not gonna work right. However, most Doom mods don't require the original Doom assets and those should work in FreeDoom with little to no issues.
Considering Doom/Doom II (and their resource files) are frequently on sale for $5 or less (and that's digital market places, I'm sure you can probably find old disks/CD-ROMs for even less out in the wild), and the number of free content that takes advantage of the Doom resources files, seems kind of pointless. Barring that, I'm sure you can "find" the wad files with a cursory Google search if you truly can't afford a few bucks for the re-releases/an old copy.
Freedoom is my jam, and I use it to play all of my mods. More often than not there are some real decent maps in both Phase 1 and 2. It'll always have a place in my heart
I remember playing a weird mobile port of Freedoom as a kid and thinking it was an official spin off of the main series. Loved it as a kid and this vid has given me the excuse to give the real thing a shot.
Good video, man! Not enough people know about the value of truly free software. Free and open source gaming is more than just games you don't need to pay for, it also opens up a Sahara Desert sized sandbox for potential fun.
I played Freedoom recently and while some levels in Phase 1 were mazey, I still had a blast killing the new demons and exploring the remains of the ARC. The soundtrack in both Phases had some bangers too, with my favorite being E3M7.
The levels are decent enough, the source port is most important and original mods/wads available are compatible with freedoom. I'm glad someone loved DOOM enough to make this game, the developer for freedoom asked the community for help making levels but apparently people would rather criticize it than help make it better. I love it.
I remember an old version of Freedoom used Boom tricks like semi-transparent walls and conveyor belts in it's levels. Makes sense, as most source ports have boom compatibility.
*Fun Fact* Duke Nukem 3D nearly has it's own variant in the works 20 years ago, known simply as "Dave 3D", which itself is based off of "Dave Gnukem", the Open Source Port of the original 2D Duke. But because 3DR were being "Nintendo" with their brand, they took it down on the basis of "we don't want people not having to pay for our game to play mods of said game, we need that sponduli for DK Forever". These days, the closest attempt to it is a mod simply known as "Luke Ken 3D". Seems promising, and it's legally distinct enough to get away with it.
Doom modding can be intimidating to someone who's used to Steam Workshop. It's so cool that I can just grab GZDoom + Freedoom + the mod, bundle everything in a ZIP and completely legally send it to a friend.
Freedoom’s fun, a very great substitute for Doom if you don’t want to pay any money to get the full version. It’s also pretty old, it’s been around since 2001
As much as we may find the design in freedoom odd just the fact that it is a thing has done wonders for the community, it can be bundled with source ports and mods to make them "standalone" out of the box with minimal effort and not only is it free to download but the assets are all free to use too, not necessarily in a WAD, they're there for indie devs to use on ANY game and you're encouraged to. I should say though... You tend to recommend extensive GZDoom mods to run on "toasters" and unfortunately despite the graphics looking old the GZDoom code is really extended and the doom renderer isn't good with extensive and hyperdetailed maps as it wasn't made for those so both the CPU and GPU requirements go way up with GZDoom. This doesn't mean that everything on it will run slow, but don't promise people that they can run Golden Souls 3 or Reelism on anything because that isn't true, not really a big problem and there's many WADs and stuff that can run on anything but it's worth keeping in mind.
I've helped several people I know get into using Doom mods with GZDoom. We've had to mess with settings for sure, but I've got people playing Reelism on some real low-grade Intel CPUs. Several years ago even. There are certain mods that definitely require more, no doubt, but perhaps I've just had a lot of luck with it so far. I know for certain that GZDoom is a long way from being truly optimized but I dunno, it hasn't screwed me or anyone I know over so far. It's worth mentioning for the context of this video that I didn't explicitly say that Freedoom had to be used in GZDoom. I probably should have picked different examples for my video though. I think it would have been more fair to everyone if I picked like scythe2.wad or something relatively low power like that. I just made that other video recently and GS3 and Reelism were on my mind. I noticed while getting footage for this that Call of Abdulov took the pain grunts from Freedoom. I was aware that there are projects that have used Freedoom as a base and in a longer video I would have gone into more detail with them. This video was edited on kind of a crunch period and I wanted to keep it short. I will likely elaborate further on this in a Comments & Corrections video in the future. Thanks for the comment.
It still exist actually, it's actually both the Freedoom source port (a fork of ZDoom) and the Freedoom IWAD. It's good and you can actually play Doom Mods on your phone with it
In some ways, Freedoom feels like a gimmick since it's more well known for its legally-distinct assets than the actual game itself, a-la the 'dancing bear' trope. I'm also surprised there's never been an official storyline given to its two phases outside of a few intermission screens, but considering Doom never had much of a story to begin with, that more or less makes sense.
yeah i thought itd suck as a game itself but it was actually got me hooked instantly 😅 i spent a day playing it and didnt touch the mods, then i only played with mods on the freedoom maps ! haha
Fun fact: jimmy paddock has made at least 1 map that is in freedoom like gamma labs. Doom hell on earth starter pack has some levels from Freedoom also. 🤷🏻♂️ It just amazes me how many doom fans talk down about levels in freedoom when they dont realize they have legit doom mappers fingerprints all-over some of these maps. 😂
I ran into Freedoom late in the party and I was like "Wow.... this is kinda' neat." I mean it was still Doom, but different. I dig it, even if, like you said, alot of the worst things about oldschool DooM are front and center in it.
finally i now know what freedoom is. ive been wordering for so long what ever could it be. i got it on android once and deleted itwith out playing cause i wasent sure. but now that i know its free doom, woah. that $90 odd i spent on doom, i rially could have saved
It’s really interesting how brutal doom, and a map pack paired with freedoom results in an indistinguishable experience to modding the official WADs. Brutal wolfenstein and wolfenstein 3D TC also work great with freedoom. Its a pointless exercise considering how cheap and accessible doom/doom 2 are but it’s interesting nonetheless
there should also be some explaining in the difference between source ports, launchers and wads, because that seems to confuse people the most. you dont "have to" use a launcher IF your wad is a COMPLETE program in its own. But if you have a launcher, you still need a source port. and that makes modding for doom quite hard, since you in most cases for making the most out of your mods, you will need to have 1. doom or freedoom. 2. launcher like zdl OR a source port. 3. a source port (see whats makes it strange when you can run it from gzdoom directly or by zandronum or zdl BUT STILL THROUGH GZDOOM, and finally 4. mods.
Actually .PK3s are just .ZIPs with folders in them containing different resources. Usually, the only WADs that should be in there are ones that hold just a single map each.
I need help figuring out how to install mods for this game on my android....in have brutal doom just waiting but i don’t want to mess it up.... any help is appreciated 🙏
If that suprises you, your mind is going to be blown when you realize doom used to cost 60 bucks back in 1993! (30 really but with inflation it was basically 60)
@@metroided34 well that makes sense it was brand new back then but I distinctly remember it costing less to buy doom on steam, though my memory could be wrong on that Edit: ok I just realized that he was talking about the entire doom classic collection, and a trip to the way back machine shows that the price hasn’t changed
I still have my old CDs for the original Doom II and Ultimate Doom, so I can just run source ports off of those without the need for Freedoom, but I still have copies of that downloaded well for the novelty. I've also had fun swapping assets between the two for an even more surreal experience. On the tangent of Freedoom being so much difficult than the originals, I always chalked that up to it being designed by people who have been playing Doom so long that the original vanilla version just isn't challenging to them any more.
I do wonder I get it’s like a really low spec game but from what I read gzdoom which is aparantly a engine freedom requires possibly has a spec limit of like 6gb of ram when I have 4gb I don’t care for 60 fps maybe 30 tbh I just wanna run the game cause iv seen some doom mods and I love them So I have low specs will it properly run without hassle also does anyone have a tutorial on how to download it all
Doesn't work like that. If you modify the already existing doom 2 maps, they're still the doom 2 maps. They have to be completely original to distribute.
Well it's Doom, so of course the level design consists of mazes and/or open ended design. Would you rather have linear corridors like in modern day shooters? As for FreeDoom itself, it's still being worked on. Personally I prefer the art style in FreeDoom over Classic Doom.
Great video! I just found out about free Doom, as im getting into making custom levels and modding :) Just watched John Romero's video on how he made Sigil and its really inspiring
Freedoom's problem in my opinion is changing the wrong things. I liked the old e1m1 way more then the one they replaced it with a few years ago. I thought the old imp sprites were great (the ones that looked like a cobra), and the older map01 music track for phase 2 was great, I have no idea why they changed any of those 3 things. It's been a few years since I finished freedoom 1, I remember the last chapter's level design being really uninspired (reminded me of TNT) and the spider mastermind replacement sprites were awful. Those are what they should have worried about fixing. Maybe they have at some point, I might check it out again sometime.
Just load the mod with FreeDoom in your Source port of choice. Assuming you're going to use GZDoom just select the mods and drop them on the Exe. Then choose the FreeDoom wads depending on what they depend on (Phase 1 for Doom 1, Phase 2 for Doom 2 and Final Doom). Press play and done
I played Freedoom Phases 1 and 2 a while back. I wasn't able to appreciate the art direction and aesthetic style back then. Fast forward to now, you can find Doom mods that incorporate some of Freedoom's art assets (CC0, I think). Freedoom is still in development even until today (have yet to reach version 1.0, due to sprite work needing changes and map redesigns). I agree the maps currently aren't intuitive, but here's hoping to more people contributing to Freedoom.
If you look carefully in the video during the part where I'm showing Golden Souls 2 you'll see the old model of the "Imp" replacement. That's something that's already gotten a lot better. I do optimistically look forward to the future of Freedoom.
I mean, arguably *Doom's* maps are far from intuitive.
But I'm a notorious Vanilla hater.
> the maps currently aren't intuitive
well thats utterly BS.
P1 & P2 have better & cohesive maps design even compared to some joke maps by authistic casali bros in plutonia.
@@UtterSpartan you don't have any idea how you hit home with the 3rd world country state
I'm from India and boy dp some of my friends need something to look forward to, i mean the fucking condition of even above average households is just shameful. And this engine is one of the few things we can enjoy while still not having a pc or a console
@@NickDyersIf they were actually autistic, they would have done a better job.
The "Free" part in Freedoom refers to freedom, not price. It's about providing the Doom modding community with an independent base that isn't under the control of a corporation or any one person. You kind of figure it out within the video but I don't think it fully clicked. "Free" means two different things in the English language - in other languages like Spanish, "libre" and "gratis" mean different things.
@@BlakeosaurusRexHe’s one of the creators of freedom.
It speaks great volumes about my cognitive abilities that only now I noticed the 'doom' in the title. I always though it was just called 'Freedom'.
Love your videos, by the way.
I can't describe how beautiful Freedoom is, The textures sounds monsters weapons just fits so well.
the OST really fits the story - survive and escape
@@SwiftBlitz. so true
just got to e4m2, damn these leves are confusing and hard
@@SwiftBlitz. wait for e4m8 it's a lot evil than plutonia maps lol
So I doesn’t have a boss?
Freedoom is legendary in what it stands for and what it does. I believe everyone should have acsess to such a thing, be given the keys to such an incredible world of gameplay and modding for free is awesome.
Though in the end it's just as easy to download the real WADs from any number of fan sites and play that way, so you can get the real thing, and pay no money for it whatsoever. Doom shouldn't cost money anymore at all. I'd much rather just yoink the real thing instead of this.
But in the end, so long as the most amount of people possible can have the chance to enter the world that is Doom and Doom modding for free, that's all that matters. Truly one of the greatest games of all time.
i need help modding this game, i have android... can’t figure out how to put it in the game
hello
" Truly one of the greatest games of all time."
indeed it is
as in people are genuinely just putting the iwads on their sites for free?
I totally agree with the ending. ZDaemon has been there for me when I felt I had nothing. No matter who you are, or where you live, you can always find at LEAST 2 or 3 active servers, and what really gets me to tears is how even if it's just 1 or 2 people on it, they are always welcoming to their fellow slayers. You can go in and not say a word as you grind away killing baddies, or sometimes, if you decide to chat and open up about your life, you can sometimes find someone, provided they speak English (people fron countries you didn't even know existed play) that will listen. Because that's who we are. We're brothers in DooM. We all enjoy the game, and share that one identical goal of escaping reality. Sometimes you'll join a server and everyone's just staring at walls cause they're holding a conversation in chat instead. I've made a few friends there that although I had no clue who they are, they're now facebook friends who tell me Happy Birthday more than my real ones. Who am I kidding, they ARE the real ones. For a game about hell and demons, it honestly has the most blessed community. If you ever find yourself feeling down and out, please know that there are servers just WAITING for you to visit, and there is an abundance of maps, WADs, and map building software to keep you entertained for life. Slay on, space marines.
Ahh zdaemon, have a lot of good memories on chillax butter fingers servers, and hosting private servers with friends
I was originally gonna comment about how cool zdaemon looks and how I wish I could use it, but there isn't a version for mac
then I thought, I might as well check again on the website, just to make sure before I post this comment
*then I see there is a mac port, and I cannot explain how excited I am*
do you know if the different platforms go together (so I, on mac, could play with windows people) instead of just window user + winder user, mac user + mac user, etc?
@@terrapin-yob no clue, but I'd bet its crossplay
@@cyberoverkill5844
ah okay
thanks
I used to play on y.a.n.g server many year ago , mainly blood and duke 3D but it was a decent crew of regular players from around the world and we were united in our love for these games
I'm always glad to see Freedoom get some recognition. The art can be kinda off at times but the ability to play wads like Scythe 1-2, D2TWID, and other more vanilla to Boom level wads is absolutely amazing. Also FreedoomGuy's face is kinda adorable honestly and it sets him apart from regular Doomguy in a way I like. He's got some pudge and dough in that mug of his despite doing all of what Doomguy can do and it's cute in a weird way.
Okay my guy I have been a doomer since 1996 so this taught me very little personally but can I just say THANK YOU for going through the hassle of explaining the fundamental infrastructure of doom. There is surprisingly little info out there and certainly even less in such a digestible way so new doomers and mappers I regularly catch have huge issues understanding how sourceports, wads, etc interconnect
That got weirdly wholesome towards the end.
I agree though, in the age of companies wanting to suck up the very last drop off of your savings, it truly is underappreciated how great Doom community really is, the fact that you can get Freedoom completely for free and have thousands upon thousand of obviously free mods (because it is illegal to monetize them) that either enhance or completely modify the game into an entirely different game is remarkable, you have a near endless entertainment literally for free, not only that, the modding community only seems to get more and more active and creative with each year, while many other modding communities of other games die out, or the interest in them does.
Thank you Doom and every single person involved into making this game and its community what it is.
FreeDoom is a great thing, even I can admit that, as much as I myself can't get any enjoyment from it. I'm not gonna share my own gripes about it here as that would end up being a whole long text wall, but I will share one thing. Because of the differences that *are* in FreeDoom, it *is not* compatible with all mods.
The biggest issue that comes of this is that when you play online with, say, Zandronum. When the server calls for a vanilla map to be loaded it will try to load that map, then fail to verify that your map is the same as the one the server requested, then you get booted. There is no way around that other than to just not play on servers that don't have map packs installed.
The second issue with the asset differences though is in the art; some ZDoom/Zandronum mods call upon art assets in your IWAD in order to manipulate them on the fly. A prime example of this is with Xaser's Parkour mod, which will have the weapon sprites looking cut up and mangled in weird and wonderful ways.
Also, fun fact, pk3 files (only ever used in GZDoom as a replacement for the wad format) are actually just renamed zip files. You can seriously just rename a GZDoom mod from .pk3 to .zip and browse all the files in your normal file browser. Other engines however, have their own distinct formats that don't work like this, like Eternity's .pke format. c:
I've never attempted to use Freedoom with Zandronum, I admit. This should change in the future but so far like 99% of my Doom experience has been single player. The last time I played Zandronum most servers I could find were using some weird Modern Warfare 2 mod with bitcrushed sprites of all the weapons. That's my excuse for not knowing about that incompatibility.
I played about 20 mods with Freedoom in preparation of doing this video. I never once had any issues. This ranged from weapon mods, to maps, to TCs. I wish I'd known about the Parkour mod issue ahead of time, but I also admit I've never used it. I am aware that Freedoom is still in development so maybe they could do something about that kind of error, but it sounds like it's more on Xaser to do something about it.
I knew that .pk3 files were basically ZIP files but I didn't know they were literally renamed ZIP files. That's cool. I don't have much experience with The Eternity Engine but maybe someday I'll give it more of a fair shake. I tried to get it running once like 5 years ago and I failed hard. A lot has changed since then so hey, I'd like to see how it works. I hadn't heard of that unique format before. Thanks for the comment.
@@UtterSpartan Ah yeah, I know what Zandro mod you're talking about. Probably RGA2, which as far as I'm aware has fallen off in popularity because of how much it used to be played. I'll admit to enjoying it once upon a time, mostly just for the weapon feedback and for a quick power trip. I don't play it now though as I've actually gone back and reexperienced vanilla Doom good and proper, now I mostly just play on either Crispy Doom or GZDoom with the Smooth Doom mod, though I'm definitely no stranger to some of the wackier mods out there. Just check out Endless Madness if you want a taste of that. c:
On the topic of engine-specific modding though, Eternity has a pretty nice showcase in the form of Heartland. Its "GZDoom UDMF map"-style map architecture is nothing short of impressive in an engine that's just upgraded Boom. I highly recommend it.
On the other hand though, Doomsday Engine. Good luck running that full stop.
Yeah, anything that requires the original Doom assets isn't gonna work with FreeDoom unfortunately, so ofc Zandronum is out for vanilla maps, and mods like Brutal Doom, Demonsteele, and Parkour are not gonna work right. However, most Doom mods don't require the original Doom assets and those should work in FreeDoom with little to no issues.
Considering Doom/Doom II (and their resource files) are frequently on sale for $5 or less (and that's digital market places, I'm sure you can probably find old disks/CD-ROMs for even less out in the wild), and the number of free content that takes advantage of the Doom resources files, seems kind of pointless. Barring that, I'm sure you can "find" the wad files with a cursory Google search if you truly can't afford a few bucks for the re-releases/an old copy.
Ah yes Freedoom, I have a soft spot for this wad.
Freedoom is my jam, and I use it to play all of my mods. More often than not there are some real decent maps in both Phase 1 and 2. It'll always have a place in my heart
I remember playing a weird mobile port of Freedoom as a kid and thinking it was an official spin off of the main series. Loved it as a kid and this vid has given me the excuse to give the real thing a shot.
Good video, man!
Not enough people know about the value of truly free software. Free and open source gaming is more than just games you don't need to pay for, it also opens up a Sahara Desert sized sandbox for potential fun.
I played Freedoom recently and while some levels in Phase 1 were mazey, I still had a blast killing the new demons and exploring the remains of the ARC. The soundtrack in both Phases had some bangers too, with my favorite being E3M7.
The levels are decent enough, the source port is most important and original mods/wads available are compatible with freedoom. I'm glad someone loved DOOM enough to make this game, the developer for freedoom asked the community for help making levels but apparently people would rather criticize it than help make it better. I love it.
YAY you here
The lil' rant near the end was beautiful and I agree completely.
"Tom Hall named that"
I felt that. It's perfect.
I remember an old version of Freedoom used Boom tricks like semi-transparent walls and conveyor belts in it's levels. Makes sense, as most source ports have boom compatibility.
Your closing statement is facts! And even though I don't use it, I'm glad it exists
Something you forgot to mention: The music is pretty dang good.
*Fun Fact*
Duke Nukem 3D nearly has it's own variant in the works 20 years ago, known simply as "Dave 3D", which itself is based off of "Dave Gnukem", the Open Source Port of the original 2D Duke.
But because 3DR were being "Nintendo" with their brand, they took it down on the basis of "we don't want people not having to pay for our game to play mods of said game, we need that sponduli for DK Forever".
These days, the closest attempt to it is a mod simply known as "Luke Ken 3D". Seems promising, and it's legally distinct enough to get away with it.
This actually introduced me to Doom last year.
John Carmack gave his blessings to Freedoom and that's when you know everything about DOOM is great
It's special because it's something that has never been done before the moment Freedoom was released.
Doom modding can be intimidating to someone who's used to Steam Workshop. It's so cool that I can just grab GZDoom + Freedoom + the mod, bundle everything in a ZIP and completely legally send it to a friend.
Modding is the whole point. You can play brutal doom
Imagine being so broke you can't afford Doom 2, which is all you'll need for custom maps
Freedoom’s fun, a very great substitute for Doom if you don’t want to pay any money to get the full version.
It’s also pretty old, it’s been around since 2001
the assets actually look really dope.
As much as we may find the design in freedoom odd just the fact that it is a thing has done wonders for the community, it can be bundled with source ports and mods to make them "standalone" out of the box with minimal effort and not only is it free to download but the assets are all free to use too, not necessarily in a WAD, they're there for indie devs to use on ANY game and you're encouraged to.
I should say though... You tend to recommend extensive GZDoom mods to run on "toasters" and unfortunately despite the graphics looking old the GZDoom code is really extended and the doom renderer isn't good with extensive and hyperdetailed maps as it wasn't made for those so both the CPU and GPU requirements go way up with GZDoom. This doesn't mean that everything on it will run slow, but don't promise people that they can run Golden Souls 3 or Reelism on anything because that isn't true, not really a big problem and there's many WADs and stuff that can run on anything but it's worth keeping in mind.
I've helped several people I know get into using Doom mods with GZDoom. We've had to mess with settings for sure, but I've got people playing Reelism on some real low-grade Intel CPUs. Several years ago even. There are certain mods that definitely require more, no doubt, but perhaps I've just had a lot of luck with it so far. I know for certain that GZDoom is a long way from being truly optimized but I dunno, it hasn't screwed me or anyone I know over so far.
It's worth mentioning for the context of this video that I didn't explicitly say that Freedoom had to be used in GZDoom. I probably should have picked different examples for my video though. I think it would have been more fair to everyone if I picked like scythe2.wad or something relatively low power like that. I just made that other video recently and GS3 and Reelism were on my mind.
I noticed while getting footage for this that Call of Abdulov took the pain grunts from Freedoom. I was aware that there are projects that have used Freedoom as a base and in a longer video I would have gone into more detail with them. This video was edited on kind of a crunch period and I wanted to keep it short. I will likely elaborate further on this in a Comments & Corrections video in the future. Thanks for the comment.
There were games like this on the app store back in the past
It still exist actually, it's actually both the Freedoom source port (a fork of ZDoom) and the Freedoom IWAD.
It's good and you can actually play Doom Mods on your phone with it
YESSSS SPARTAN IVE WAITED SO LONG FOR YOUR CONTENT YEaaaAAAHHH!!!!
I friggin love freedoom, it has been my main iwad for years! Never went back. Few pieces of hardware are this noble and legit
great explanation! I finally get the hype behind freedoom now.
to win the game you must defect Richard Stallman
and an evil penguin comes out from the head
Play it in conjunction with, also free, Brutal Doom. 🙂
I love playing with cheats for fun and summoning cyberdemons like it was a WAD
I have seen those enemies from the game “Retro FPS” on mobile in phase 1 I have seen all those enemies before in it
Thanks for the good video, man. Recent subscriber from 2 vids. Keep it up!
3:33 name of this mod/wad?
Reelism 2
In some ways, Freedoom feels like a gimmick since it's more well known for its legally-distinct assets than the actual game itself, a-la the 'dancing bear' trope.
I'm also surprised there's never been an official storyline given to its two phases outside of a few intermission screens, but considering Doom never had much of a story to begin with, that more or less makes sense.
lmfao thank you to introducing me to Megabounce
In theory this doom mod wads like freedoom can work on a 486 computer like the original doom?
I actually quite enjoy Freedoom 2's maps. I really like the difficulty and that's really all I can say ._.
yeah i thought itd suck as a game itself but it was actually got me hooked instantly 😅 i spent a day playing it and didnt touch the mods, then i only played with mods on the freedoom maps ! haha
Its still pretty good though the mods that are compatible are also amazing
The zombies actually have some reworked WIP sprites that aren't finished yet
My issue with freedom is its supposed to be a drop in Doom 2 replacement yet not all the levels are even vanilla compatible. Shoddy.
Free as in Price and Freedom under the GPL
"We have Doom at home"
Freedoom is an app i go to almost every day. Very fun to play, but i don't kow how to open the comand line.
I agree that as standalone levels, Freedoom 1 and 2 are just ok for the most part.
Fun fact: jimmy paddock has made at least 1 map that is in freedoom like gamma labs. Doom hell on earth starter pack has some levels from Freedoom also. 🤷🏻♂️
It just amazes me how many doom fans talk down about levels in freedoom when they dont realize they have legit doom mappers fingerprints all-over some of these maps. 😂
It's so good
I ran into Freedoom late in the party and I was like "Wow.... this is kinda' neat." I mean it was still Doom, but different. I dig it, even if, like you said, alot of the worst things about oldschool DooM are front and center in it.
finally i now know what freedoom is. ive been wordering for so long what ever could it be. i got it on android once and deleted itwith out playing cause i wasent sure. but now that i know its free doom, woah. that $90 odd i spent on doom, i rially could have saved
I remember this used to be on the phone version (yea I played it, and it was good!)
Me not having a PC at the moment: 🗿 Freedoom it is.
It’s really interesting how brutal doom, and a map pack paired with freedoom results in an indistinguishable experience to modding the official WADs. Brutal wolfenstein and wolfenstein 3D TC also work great with freedoom. Its a pointless exercise considering how cheap and accessible doom/doom 2 are but it’s interesting nonetheless
Fun fact,I ported it to the Dreamcast using NXDoom
there should also be some explaining in the difference between source ports, launchers and wads, because that seems to confuse people the most. you dont "have to" use a launcher IF your wad is a COMPLETE program in its own. But if you have a launcher, you still need a source port. and that makes modding for doom quite hard, since you in most cases for making the most out of your mods, you will need to have 1. doom or freedoom. 2. launcher like zdl OR a source port. 3. a source port (see whats makes it strange when you can run it from gzdoom directly or by zandronum or zdl BUT STILL THROUGH GZDOOM, and finally 4. mods.
E2M3 is the best freedom soundtrack
I clicked on the funny video and I like the funny channel so now I shall click the funny sub button
Actually .PK3s are just .ZIPs with folders in them containing different resources. Usually, the only WADs that should be in there are ones that hold just a single map each.
Great vidya cheers!🍻😀
i only know freedoom because of brutal doom starter pack
I need help figuring out how to install mods for this game on my android....in have brutal doom just waiting but i don’t want to mess it up.... any help is appreciated 🙏
what app do you use?
delta touch or the freedoom app?
Thanks for the vid
Dollar General Doom. Honestly Ive always dug it better than the original
Yes.
Thank this made want to play it on my pi4 i had a saturn with doom but it dont work so ill just play this phase 1 and 2
Don't some pwads require Doom 2 iwad forcebly? Or is Freedoom phase 2 capable of emulating every aspect of it?
all you need to do is rename freedoom phase 2 to doom 2 and you'll be fine
@@dibberz-v1z doesn't that cause missing sprites and animations?
Wait doom cost $15 now?!? Didn’t it used to cost like 1$ on steam?
If that suprises you, your mind is going to be blown when you realize doom used to cost 60 bucks back in 1993! (30 really but with inflation it was basically 60)
@@metroided34 well that makes sense it was brand new back then but I distinctly remember it costing less to buy doom on steam, though my memory could be wrong on that
Edit: ok I just realized that he was talking about the entire doom classic collection, and a trip to the way back machine shows that the price hasn’t changed
@@nfwrambo ultimate doom and doom 2 and other games was on sale now the sale ended
I still have my old CDs for the original Doom II and Ultimate Doom, so I can just run source ports off of those without the need for Freedoom, but I still have copies of that downloaded well for the novelty. I've also had fun swapping assets between the two for an even more surreal experience.
On the tangent of Freedoom being so much difficult than the originals, I always chalked that up to it being designed by people who have been playing Doom so long that the original vanilla version just isn't challenging to them any more.
Yeah I got freedoom and started playing high noon drifter demonsteele trailblazer LEDS generic weapons nun with a gun pirate doom batman doom ect.
I can not understate how important it is for a broke ass know nothing a pcs dude like I am
I finish both phases and i gets the games fun to play.Not like im playing golden soul 1 or 2,but...
Played all of phase 1 & 2, it hasn't been worked on in YEARS!
Version 0.11's Beserk pack tho
It's constantly being worked on by the devs and community actually lol
@@buzzcutinteractive Then the mobile version ain't getting updates
@@mrllamaton1873 That's cause the mobile version isn't official.
@@buzzcutinteractive F
I do wonder I get it’s like a really low spec game but from what I read gzdoom which is aparantly a engine freedom requires possibly has a spec limit of like 6gb of ram when I have 4gb I don’t care for 60 fps maybe 30 tbh I just wanna run the game cause iv seen some doom mods and I love them
So I have low specs will it properly run without hassle also does anyone have a tutorial on how to download it all
I've played Freedoom on my phone and I liked it. The only thing I dislike is the fourth episode of Phase 1.
the maps are also the assets ? if you mirror the map arround adding 1 extra drawing makes it not the same or it doesnt work like that? =P
Doesn't work like that. If you modify the already existing doom 2 maps, they're still the doom 2 maps. They have to be completely original to distribute.
Okay now the question is who developed it? I guess?
Well it's Doom, so of course the level design consists of mazes and/or open ended design. Would you rather have linear corridors like in modern day shooters? As for FreeDoom itself, it's still being worked on. Personally I prefer the art style in FreeDoom over Classic Doom.
Hacx:
Haunted
I'm sorry if this sounds dumb, but what's the really happy looking mod in the video with the floating islands?
nevermind i found it, it's doom the golden souls
The mod is cool as hell
Great video! I just found out about free Doom, as im getting into making custom levels and modding :)
Just watched John Romero's video on how he made Sigil and its really inspiring
you forgot to mention that freedoom is semi open source
When a game is like $10 or under i just think there are people that pay more than that for Starbuck orders daily.
How to do multiplayer in freedoom?
You need a sourceport like Zandronum with Doomseeker to do that.
Indeed
Freedoom's problem in my opinion is changing the wrong things. I liked the old e1m1 way more then the one they replaced it with a few years ago. I thought the old imp sprites were great (the ones that looked like a cobra), and the older map01 music track for phase 2 was great, I have no idea why they changed any of those 3 things. It's been a few years since I finished freedoom 1, I remember the last chapter's level design being really uninspired (reminded me of TNT) and the spider mastermind replacement sprites were awful. Those are what they should have worried about fixing. Maybe they have at some point, I might check it out again sometime.
Do you think that this can be on steam in a near future???
I believe so when it's fully finished
Nah, probably not.
I actually played freedom on Android of all things.
Its the best option if you can't get it on steam, and don't have the guts to just pirate it.
And when is this free weekend?
But there *is* a catch. It looks different.
thi is availible on mobile for free.
Doom 2 is like Nike sneakers and Freedoom is like Fake Nikes made in China.
you completely missed the mark...
and of course you omit the real reason of it called free.
(Hint: ON THE TITLE MINUS AN O)
How play Doom mod in freedoom???
Just load the mod with FreeDoom in your Source port of choice. Assuming you're going to use GZDoom just select the mods and drop them on the Exe. Then choose the FreeDoom wads depending on what they depend on (Phase 1 for Doom 1, Phase 2 for Doom 2 and Final Doom). Press play and done