This Game Might Be Worth More Money Than You Think
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- Today is September 22nd, 1993! New episode every single Friday!
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Welcome to Now in the 90s, where we rewind the clock exactly 30 years ago to see what new video games had just released! This week we had Zombies Ate My Neighbors, The Fantastic Dizzy and The 7th Saga!
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We need a compilation of Dylan's hidden gems at the end of the year.
Dylan's Hidden Gem Distillery
Yes
When Dylan comes on, the video goes off.
Any game containing Piccolo with a monocle truly is a 10/10.
One thing that stood out to me about 7th Saga, besides its ridiculous difficulty, was that it had weird double-wide tiles compared to like every other 16 bit RPG ever. Gives the maps an uncanny, claustrophobic feel.
There's a bug that jacked the difficulty up in the US version.
@@vxicepickxv it wasn't a bug. It was put there on purpose to make people want to buy it instead of renting it. Didn't work the way they thought it would.
Rolling Thunder 3 was in fact pretty epic, and Zombies ate my neighbors was so weird and fun I definitely recommend both.
LucasArts made so many weird/quirky games. The type of stuff we only get from indie developers now.
Pro tip for 7th Saga
-Always buy gems because they trade at cost value and monster will loot you for gold if killed.
-when in battle defend first then attack , for some reason your attacks will hit more often and harder when you do this.
-also the first boss Romus the ghost let him beat you the first time to have your character learn the secret about a whistle in his former owners grave which will one shot him.
-when you get a rune use it during battle and also be careful not to fight one of the other characters looking for them because if they beat you and most likely they will ( they will always be 5 levels higher than your chosen character but not your partner) they will steal the rune and you have to track them down.
Another tip, *DON'T* grind super hard early game. Wait till you get a good partner, and after a certain point, then grind.
Otherwise the other apprentices will stone wall you.
One of my greatest RPG accomplishments was beating 7th Saga. Back when I had more time and patience.
One of the best decisions Jared and crew made for this channel was make room in the budget for the "Hidden Gem Alert" button. XD
Man... Zombies Ate My Neighbors is the only game that I came close to putting as many hours into as Sonic 3+knuckles. Was so so so good no matter how many times I beat it.
This one was so good. I remember having the Sega Channel back in the day and I'd get super stoked when this was available for the month.
I never even came close to beating it. I'd run out of lives/people to save around the second giant baby fight.
I agree
Great game, omg never came close either but fun fun fun!!!
@phychmasher Sega Channel? Dang, were you rich growing up lol.
Editor Dylan is correct. Namco needs to put out an arcade collection that covers the breadth of their non-Pac Man, Galaga and Dig Dug arcade stuff. I mean, they can include those games too, just put in the less popular, but just as fun, games too. And no, those NES ROM collections on Steam don't count.
I remember playing Rolling Thunder in the Arcade, most notably because we found the machine with over 50 credits on it one time next to a pool table, so while 2 of us were playing pool the third was playing Rolling Thunder. Ahh, good times.
That would be such an epic experience back then. I’d ride that story for childhood fame for a while 😂
Zombies Ate My Neighbors is one of my fondest SNES memories with my brother, even though I've never come anywhere near beating it. Hell of a soundtrack too.
Yeah, it's definitely not game you can just breeze through...it's something you have to be prepared for, and you really have to have a partner who's ready to go the long haul with ya and can handle their own and won't drag you down. I was never able to beat it co-op with anyone as a kid, they either gave up, or we just didn't have to time to do it. But we definitely had some serious fun trying though!
Huge ZAMN fan, glad you covered it and was also aware they were in talks for a movie. No way it would happen, but is cool that there was even talk of it really.
My friend had the internet download of this in the 90s I forgot what it was for but God i loved it
Having never seen anyone make an acronym of the game's title, I'm now tempted to try and make saying "ZAAAAAMN" a thing with my friends.
@@trident042 - That should only be for Zombies fans :)
But can you imagine how unfortunate it would have been if it was "DOGS Ate My Neighbors" or dragons or something?!
@@chrisrj9871 There was an attempt from some indie devs to do a "Demons Ate My Neighbors" spiritual successor that was using the DAMN acronym as well. But it seems to have gone into development hell and hasn't seen an update in over a year for what's going on, so I think it's never coming.
I remember being ten and begging my parents for 7th Saga. I played it a ton because I felt so guilty for making such a big deal out of it. 100s of hours played, and I only made it past the first cave once.
7th saga was a grindfest. I beat it a few times but man the healer was so damn hard.
Also not knowing if weapons were stronger until you bought them in that one weapon town. Also the hidden items were hard to find
Yeah, I was a bit puzzled to hear it's such a ridiculously hard game or impossible, calling it a grindfest is more appropriate, at least to anyone who has played a wide range of rpgs. You had to put a lot of work into your characters and the story progression is slow, if anything it's tedious with little pay off along the way, not everyone's cup of tea.
I would call Ogre Battle March of the Black Queen hard, as the battle system is quite complex if you want to stay within good alignment. Traditional grinding will throw you out of good alignment, especially if you're fighting weaker enemies. As much as I've played the game years ago, I never mastered the balance.
I zombies would have eaten some of my former neighbors...
As a child/teenager I had Zombies Ate My Neughbors and its was challenging to play this game. You often either miss one or two "neighbors" or get randomly hurt by opening cupboards/trashcans but at least you have a chance to get random good weapons and items from them. Two player coop adds extra difficulty due to fact that there is no splitscreen which forced proper cooperation between players and you have to share items. Passwords were useless (you start from any passwords with only water gun and ONE health kit) so I often played from the first level trying to binge it from start to the end. I don't perceive Ghoul Patrol as the sequel to ZAMN. Controls are jank (shooting and running set on ONE button), gameplay is worse by my taste. Graphics are too big and often you don't see what lies ahead of you. Music and sound effects is just plain bland. There is no sequel to ZAMN. Period.
Had played Fantastic Adventures of Dizzy as a child on my famiclone. Always had hard time to remember where to go or where I left that damn item. Rolling Thunder 3 was one of the last games I played on my Sega. Soundtrack is jamming and many names of the tracks have word BAD in it.
ZAMN has to be played from the start, for sure, because you absolutely _need_ that cache of weapons and items for the brutal later levels. The only password that's worth putting in is BCDF - it starts you on a secret bonus level "Day of the Tentacle" where you can pick up several high powered weapons like a bazooka, weedwhacker and a couple extra health kits before going to Level 1. If you keep one of the bazooka rounds, there's a hidden bonus level icon behind a blastable shrub at the very top of Level 1 that takes you back to "Day of the Tentacle" so you can grab even more of those sweet weapons to start Level 2 with. I don't ever start a new run of ZAMN without that code.
!00% feel the same about Ghoul Patrol...It just feels clunky, boring , and just soulless compared to ZAMN. A lot of the suspicions that I had about the game not really being a "true" sequel were revealed to be well-founded after I later found out that it wasn't actually meant to be a sequel to ZAMN originally...While it did use the same engine ("Big Sky Troopers" also used this engine, which is an ok game with a unique premise but IMO really nothing too special) it was actually originally going to be completely different game and was made by a different studio than original (LucasArts), and only turned into one at the last second because of growing popularity of first game. So it makes sense that it never really felt like a "true" sequel.
ZAMN was one of those rare games that you could feel the love and passion that went into making it, with the cool details and little easter eggs. I mean, it was a LucasArts game after all and they were known for putting their all into there games. As big a horror fan as a kid, it was just awesome trying to spot and figure all the references.
Plus, despite being almost impossibly tough, it always felt fun and left you wanting to keep going. It was one my go-to multiplayer games (for Genesis) when I had friend over, right next to Toe-jam and Earl. Even my friends who weren't gamers could get into the game have fun with it.
I appreciate that you recognise the European fame Dizzy has. I was about to type a comment about how we knew, but you next-levelled me!
Rolling Thunder 3 deserved to be highlighted. The Music alone makes it a classic! A Hidden Gem indeed.
Rolling Thunder really is an underrated series.
Man.. 7th saga.. my younger brother really loved it and got reaally far. He didnt speak English so he got lost a lost but still managed to get far and get a high level. The music kept him hooked
9:11 Dorothy got killed by a lemon. A freaking lemon!
The entire game is a lemon, so it's fitting.
"The Sprite of the 90's" Awesome Dylan. XD
I can still remember the day a video game genuinely frightened me. It was those large worm-like things in ZAMN and the noise they made seriously had me scared for my life as a kid. I even remember getting so terrified that I had to hit the reset button on my SNES just to make it stop. Even their designs just terrified me!
Later on I did try to face my fear and try again but once the stage loaded and I saw those things moving underground, all that bravery vanished and I hit the reset button. Eventually I gave it away and hoped whoever played it didn't get scared like I did.
That is fair, the Snakeoids can be pretty terrifying with how they pop up and how difficult it can be learning how to fight them. I used to just use monster potions as a kid to deal with them, but eventually found that if you get the angle right, you can shoot your bazooka at them and hit multiple times to kill them faster, or throw plates. The fact you can't even beat level 20 without killing all of them can definitely make it more stressful.
@@LordPichuPalAh! Snakeoids! I was trying to remember what their official name was, thanks!
@@TheGamersState They were partly based off the monsters from the movie "Tremors"
You guys make Friday’s even better, Dylan is great 😂
Man, the stories of how so many difficult games of the era were done that way for changes from original difficulties in the Japan release or the sake of extending playtime for those who would use a weekend rental to try and beat it is still wild for me to know.
Like Ninja Gaiden 3
@@KingC89 The Ninja Gaiden Trilogy SNES collection was pretty halfassed, but at least it gave us unlimited continues in NG3 again. I never even came close to beating it until the rerelease.
Which is funny because then there's the weird cases like Super Mario Bros 2 which was left in Japan because it was too hard.
@@Gatorade69then there's also time they go the opposite way, and make something exclusively for the west, like FF: Mystic Quest, that's basically press button to win.
That's just two reasons, another one is the devs working on home console games were often pulled from arcade dev teams, so their entire design philosophy was "make it as hard as possible to get more coins into the machine", which actually tied in well with the idea of extending playtime as the abysmally tiny storage and processing power of the home consoles meant they couldn't make huge, sprawling games so they had to make it as difficult as possible to finish. There's a reason why removing the difficulty barriers like giving infinite lives, infinite health, etc. shortens most platformer games to about 10-25 minutes and why so many older RPGs relied so heavily on grinding levels for hours - there just wasn't enough cart space to provide hours of content otherwise.
Jared, I recently read up on your past, even being a fan of so many years I had no idea. I've been through similar and my heart goes out to you. I'm glad to see you thriving again. Hope to see you at the top!
Some kids grew up with the NES and Mario, others with Sega and Sonic, I had a Commodore 64 and my main man, the legend, Dizzy
Make 7...
We love you Jared, but Dylan is always the highlight of the show!
Piccolo with a monocle is my spirit animal
Piccolo with a monocle? Sold.
Rolling Thunder 3 was a Sega Genesis exclusive, which is crazy since its prequel came out also in Japan and Europe. It wasn't even originally an Arcade game!
Piccolo with a monocle. That's all I needed to hear. I'm sold.
Someone should draw art, or cosplay as Piccolo with a monocle on Halloween Day thanks to Dylan's idea.
Ooo Rolling Thunder 3 is such a slick game, so glad it got mentioned!
7th Saga is still one of my favorites. My grampa played it all the time when I was a kid. He won't be with me longer now, but I will always have that game with me and on my shelf.
I can't wrap my head around difficulty changes made when localizing a game from Japan to North America. _Final Fantasy IV_ was made significantly easier, but _7th Saga_ was made considerably harder. Did they think that we would find the games too easy, or too hard? Because they seemed to keep changing their minds!
yeah its kinda weird like that. like we got Mystic quest in the west because the Devs thought Western markets would not buy a Hard game. at the same time though we eventually had games like Badurs Gate which at the time, was really really hard.
it was certainly quite a time in gaming.
It was essentially on a by developer and by publisher basis, so it was pretty scattershot.
The 7th Saga change was a bug. The changes in FFIV were intentional.
there's a Oliver Twins collection on the Evercade with 11 games. 7 of them are Dizzy games.
I actually had the Wizard of Oz super Nintendo game growing up and my household played it a lot. It's really difficult, but it was kind of a type 2 fun figuring it out and seeing how far we could get. My big sister used to think there was an impossible jump you had to make in one of the later stages.
I love zombies ate my neighbors! This show is great, Jared!
Why Dizzy wasn't more popular in the US I don't know; great game with great music. Very hard to beat from what I remember.
I'm an American who randomly picked up Dizzy at a used game store. I enjoyed it for what it was.
American gamers were in the middle of the gotta go fast era. It's not a surprise a slow and methodical game would be way too different for a lot of people.
UK had the gotta go fast era too. But Sonic ran at like 83% the speed of the us games so did they really?
Dizzy was one of the first games I picked up for my zx back when I was collecting for it in 2017. TH-camrs like Top Hat Gaming Man and Nostalgia Nerd made me appreciate the uk gaming scene more.
Personally the Dizzy games were one of my favorites for the ZX spectrum. Finding solutions for the puzzles in the games was fun.
I was not prepared for the reveal of the composers of Rolling Thunder 3; sometimes the jokes just write themselves.
I absolutely love Zombies Ate My Neighbors, it's been a huge favourite of mine since I was a kid. My cousin and I used to play it together a lot and never could figure out the hedge maze until one day I found the solution and couldn't wait to tell him. For years all the kids I knew could never beat it either, and no one ever knew what came after level 20, until I finally made it all the way to the end at a LAN party when I was 13. All my friends who were there watching couldn't believe it, and it felt like such a proud accomplishment after years of practice. I'm always hyped to keep showing it to new people who never saw it and finding others who loved it, too. I'd been looking forward to this episode for a long time, ZAMN deserves the attention and fanfare.
this is my favourite time of the week.
8:01 Oh yes I love that ad from back in the day. 7-Up ads were really funny back in the 90s.
Zombies ate my neighbors was such a fun game back in the day and it still is fun to this day as well. Cool to know that there's some kind of new port that you can buy today that includes its far lesser known successor.
7th Saga was THE game where we would call our Nintendo master neighbor for help and advice. Never beat it but it was so freakishly difficult.
7:50 I'm happy you pronounce ZX Spectrum the correct way while almost everybody else just mistakenly say Spectrum ZedX.
Another game with a giant baby boss would be in CarnEvil.
I rented "Zombies" with my best mate back then. One of the best rainy Sunday I've ever had.
Poor Piccolo with a monocle. He should have learned how to DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODGE!
Such a good show! I look forward to it every week
100% behind Dylan's cry for more divisity in Namco Collections. Did you know there's like 4 Valkyrie Games and like twice as many Drauga titles, culminating in a 4 Player Gauntlet-like crossover game? Where's the collection for THAT one, Namco?
I am one of those dizzy fans.
Prince of the yolkfolk was the first game I ever completed and i did a screaming lap of honor around my house on a triumphant Saturday morning much to the confusion of my parents.
Zombies 🧟♂️ eat my Neighbors is bloody cool 😎. 😀👍🧟♂️🎮
This is some great content! I'm being taken down memory lane with each game that Jared reviews.
Editor note: Would you consider adding a visual or verbal transition effect between each game? Your reviews are pretty spot on and enjoyable. This transition would just enhance our viewing experience 😅.
All three Rolling Thunder games are great, especially the Genesis versions of the second and third games.
425 days until Donkey Kong Country...
... Piccolo with a monocle.
From what I heard, the reason 7th Saga was so hard was because Enix of America wanted to combat the rental market. They figured that if they made the game harder, people would rather buy it than rent it. All it did was take a rather bog standard JRPG from Japan and transform it into the RPG equivalent of Kryptonite. If you got a Game Genie or a ProAction Replay, you could tweak the game to the Japanese difficulty level, which was way easier.
I understand they pick the most popular or interesting games for the main feature, but often times I look forward to the rapid fire more than the first part.
2035 dollars for a definitive SNES cover box, is indeed a highest crazy value I’ve ever seen.
7th saga really humbles you, doesn't matter how strong you think you are, or how well you grasped the system, it will take you down a peg. But it is a lot more fun than I expected it to be, and I feel like most dungeon crawler rpg fans will have a blast with it
Man, Dizzy really awakened some of my earliest PC gaming memories!
Me too had some of the dizzy games on amstrad cpc 464 also played fantastic dizzy on the megadrive
Zombies Ate My Neighbours is just so good I can never get over it.
7th Saga's harsh difficulty wasn't intentional, by the way. A code error in the localization borked the player's stat growth for each level gained past certain thresholds, resulting in enemies that out-scaled you at essentially all phases of the game; the kicker there was that over-leveling yourself in the early game was a very bad idea, since the partner characters would gain spells that made them borderline impossible to beat for most players. It's the cruel, nasty beginner traps like that which earned 7th Saga its infamy, but luckily there are patched roms that fix the English version's bad code, and the result is a neat little RPG with some interesting concepts and progression. The game world has this lonely, almost desolate feel propped up by an understated score and enemy designs that were quite gritty and grotesque-looking for fantasy RPGS of the time. It's great.
Now in the 90s another great week going back in time
I've said this before, but Zombies ate my neighbors, is perfect remake material!
It's fun, it's nostalgic and has enough rough edges that a modern take could ironout
7th Saga and ZAMN are two of my biggest guilty pleasures on the SNES. I used to borrow 7th Saga from my father's then-girlfriend for long periods of time in trying to complete it, and I rented ZAMN from Blockbuster every once in a while when I couldn't find anything else to play. I considered 7th Saga to be such a unique RPG at the time since it allowed the choice of playable character from a wide selection (and of course, I went with Lejes the demon, who is considered one of the harder characters to play as). I still favor Lejes and Esuna to this day.
As for 7th Saga's difficulty: I remember hearing/reading that it was an accidental coding error or something when porting it over. The devs did want to increase the difficulty for the NA port, but they made a slight error in the coding which exponentially strengthened the other player characters instead of just giving them a slight bump. Didn't matter to me back then, though, since it was Red Pison who softlocked me on my first playthrough.
One thing Jared didn't mention about Zombies is that is has one of the largest active modding communities on the SNES (behind only Super Mario World and Link to the Past) thanks to an incredible level editor. There are some excellent romhacks out there that make MUCH better sequels then Ghoul Patrol, such as "Ultimate Zombies Ate my Neighbors", "Oh no, MORE Zombies Ate my Neighbors!", and "Sky's Zombies Ate my Neighbors" (Shout out to my good friend, and expert Zombies modder, Skylar Brock).
One thing about the 7th Saga that I haven't seen as a mechanic since, is that the turn after you defend... your next attack (if it's physical) is stronger (Feels like 80%-95% plus stronger). But everything else you say of the game is true... and I still love it.
I always liked the defend system, because it added a neat little layer of strategy to battles. Needing to decide when it was best to defend then attack, as opposed to just attacking, for example. Not to mention that RPGs with useful defend commands were pretty much nonexistent back then, so the idea of having defending be so integral made for a fun novelty.
Rolling Thunder rules! Glad you got to play it. No one talks about those games anymore
Dylan's hidden gems compilation at the end of the year, please!
DIZZY! I grew up playing the NES game with my dad! ;-;
I’m glad to see you featuring 7th Saga as well. That game was so hard and the whole losing your runes mechanic was frustrating, but I have fond memories of it. I wish Square Enix would tap that back catalog of games they published and release more stuff like Soul Blazer or 7th Saga.
And Zombies Ate My Neighbors is just nostalgic.
I love Dylan's rants!
Zombies ate my neighbors was an afterschool GOTO for so many of my friends
Zombies Ate my Neighbors is one of my favorite games - I gotta sit and finish the remaster of it!
I love Zombies Ate My Neighbors. One of my favorite games ever. And that is the correct reaction to Piccolo with a Monocle.
Zombies Ate My Neighbors was epic multiplayer. I also remember playing it as a demo at a mall KB Toys. Such nostalgia
I absolutely love 7th Saga. We used to rent that a ton back in the day. I finally beat it last year, and I can say, the regular enemies are absolutely brutal, but the bosses aren't so bad.
I remember playing Zombies ate my Neighbors on the Genesis when I was a kid, never managed to get passed the Chainsaw guys level though...
Agree, the baby boss is indeed the most terrifying enemy in all the game
Rolling thunder and Zombies ate my neighbors were a totally rad time on Genesis, lucky to have been there : )
I'm loving that Dylan is getting a little more time each new ep.
i remember seeing that spiral box art for Zombies ate my neighbors at the rental store so many times as a kid. i always wondered what it was about, but never rented it, because for some reason i though the silly name meant it would be a bad game.
Similar here. The game was always in the discount bin at a local KB Toys. I passed it up for worse games for whatever reason.
@@Gatorade69 That's where I got my copy! For like $8! 😆
that Zombies Ate My Neighbors alt box art looks great!
Piccolo... with a monocle???? Piccolowithamonocle 😂
Jared your audio is phenomenal
I would absolutely watch a movie version of Zombies Ate my Neighbors if it were set in the 90s
What another refreshing blast from the past, Thanks Pro Jared, and by the way, did you work on your teeth? They look extra great today! They weren't terrible before, just had to make an observational mention sir! I love this show and the old commercial clips from far back when I was around seven and enamored by everything video game related back then!
Something about that joe & cheese pun-made me chuckle tf up.
Only reason I Know Dizzy is I've seen folks from the U.K. discussing it
I never got very far in the seventh saga. It always seemed so difficult when I was young.
Zombies ate my Neighbors was pretty much the game i played the most in co-op with my childhood friend, we tried our best to get far in that game but man did it get difficult later on
Can't wait for Paladin's Quest in a couple weeks
dizzy is a European platformer, he is a national treasure in England
I had zombies ate my neighbors when it came out and it seems like no one knew what it was until the early 2010s but let's be honest it deserves to be known
Rolling thunder 3 is literally the same engine as codename viper on the NES. Dang i need to go play that game now.
I had no clue that Zombies Ate My Neighbors had a Switch release! It was one of my favorite SNES games. I picked up my Switch as soon as I saw this and purchased it.
I was interrupted by the notification that this came out. I was rewatching Jared's old Final Fantasy reviews. Jared interrupted himself. Hahaha.
When is the Final Fantasy 13 review at? That’s my question, I still have no answer. 🥹
@@mexiwolf009 no offense, but I don't care if that question gets answered. Hahaha. I do want to see his opinion on Tactics though.
@@paulhiggins6433 Homeboy, your missing out. Di you know how much of a roasting he will give to that game. Or how much revisionist history that game has now. Its going to be smooth. Tactics would be cool tho.
@@mexiwolf009 You're not wrong. The roasting would be brutal. But do we really want him to torture himself like that? I don't.
@@mexiwolf009 Jared is actively working on a XIV review. We might get reviews of that, XV and XVI first. Since XIII hasn't been ported to PS4 or PS5, and the PC version has performance issues, there are issues recording it on PS3 because of HDCP. I read that an HDMI splitter can get around that, but there's also an issue of time, with Jared committed to streaming four days a week and a lot of new games, some of which he won't have time for.
The review will come, but not for a while. It'll be something, though. I hate those characters and there hasn't really been a decent video that truly articulates how unlikable, one dimensional, boring, and annoying they are.
I had 7th saga and finished it 5 time with one of my friend. It was hard, grindy and really fun. You sure had to be patient and grind a lot.
Great episode, all. Watching this kinda makes me miss the days where risks were taken more often. Yeah, there was (and always will be) a lot of crap out there, but then there was stuff like Zombies Ate My Neighbors (fun game; way too many items to manage) and how impressive 7th Saga looked. Wonder how that would be to play if the difficulty was re-balanced? I've heard of Dizzy since I think Yatzee from Zero Punctuation played it once? It's been awhile since I watched said lp. Didn't seem like my cup of tea, but I could recognize that it was a good game nonetheless. Guess it's nice to see that some fan favorite games still get love from the creators to this day.
Well, to be fair, I have never seen that version of Zombies Ate My Neighbors for SNES and I definitely would've remembered that
ok, now I want to see Jared complete 7th Saga