I've had people yell at me about mares being stupid, that stallions are the only decision-makers in the herd. But the lead mare is super important in wild herds because she knows water routes, and teaches them to other mares. Mares have also been observed returning to stallions of their choice, even when being in another herd (as part of study of monogamy in nature.) The idea that mares just sit around waiting for stallions to tell them what to do when they make up 90% of the herd is really foolish.
I don't know a lot about horses so I could be wrong, but I think the stallion makes more of the decisions about protecting the herd as a whole and the lead mare makes more decisions about the little interpersonal conflicts. I suppose it could vary by their personality as well.
Truth! If there is one thing that I have a hard time listening too is people ranking on mares. Mares indeed play a very important role in a herd, even more so in a wild herd, and when it comes to having a relationship with a mare, a mare will give you their complete heart and soul and devote themselves to you. I have known so many amazing mares.
@@Americandreamfarmssme ❤mares🐎! When i was a groom, at 1 point , my 4 mares & 1 gelding, was known as Susy's Pyscho Ward. 🤣🙃🤪. I got along perfectly w/ the "crazy" 1s. Another time, i had a light "gray" mare who was known as the White Witch Of The Barn! We did have our moments, however, she was MY girl And I HERS!! She made that clear to EVERY1😁🥰. When she left to go back to the farm, i lost my BEST friend that day. But, I've always had a ❤for Mares especially "NIGHTmares" 😁😍
I appreciate you saying that. We humans cannot and should not try to control everything our horses do. Once the horses settle this among themselves it will be settled and over. We have to remember they are prey animals therefore they think differently than we do.
@@andreastewart7786Still a herd. If they live together permanently they ARE a herd! They’ve formed a hierarchy and everything. Artificially formed or not they’re still a herd and they are mostly acting the same as a wild herd just friendly with humans
Stallion maintains a harem and defends in the wild , mares follow the stallion but among the mare the oldest becomes generally becomes the alpha too, which the stallion would rely on to lead during searching for water or grazing places
I love how calm and fair Fleur is. She listens to June's complaints about the black horse but says 'you still can't beat up on her'. Toward the end of the clip Fleur seems to support June as much as keep her from the black. Lovely, calm and harmonious herd. 🙏🏽
I guess that’s why Fleur is the alpha? Because she has a good demeanor? Or is it something she just inherited, or being an older mare? (Sorry - don’t know about horses)
It looks to me that the chestnut may have been upset because the black mare was grazing close to your paint mare. We know that horses protect resources; food shelter water. They were grazing, so it could be your chestnut may be trying to run the black off so she could graze near the paint mare. Since the alpha gets to eat wherever she wants to first, being next to the alpha means getting a pretty darn good grazing spot in your pasture almost all the time. The way the chestnut came into the paint mare’s space and buttered her up, and then snaked her neck and ran the black off, then went and passive aggressively went to the water and waited while almost your whole herd started grazing in that very spot that the black had been grazing. Then the chestnut came back and pushed the black far enough away from the paint to be bossy without getting a harsh reprimand. If I had to guess, the black mare is younger than the chestnut too, and “big sister,” was feeling like the grazing arrangement was unfair.
@@susandivirgilio4551 I believe the narrator said it was a paint, if I’m not mistaken. I know the difference between a pinto coloring and the paint horse breed, as well as the skewbald, piebald coloring, and the tobiano and overo patterns. Thanks for caring so vehemently though.😊
I’ve noticed that horses love when I’m sweaty. I sweat a LOT, and I’ve known several horses who would touch their nose to my face and breathe deep when I got sweaty enough. Sometimes they would even try to lick my face. I imagine that on top of being delectably salty, it also had a lot hormonal information.
I had an older Matriarch in my mare band. She was raised in Nevada on a ranch, so she knew a lot more than the rest of them, who were raised in small farm type settings. Most got along great, but if things go out of hand, she would just walk over to those who were arguing, look from one to the other as if to say, "This is at an end, now." And they would both walk away from each other. One young mare was a joker, and she would wait until everyone was asleep, and she was "standing guard", and then suddenly stomp and blow, causing everyone to panic jump to their feet and scatter, thinking they were being attacked by something. The old mare would pin her ears and the young mare would act contrite, but she wasn't. Finally one day, the old mare had had enough of her games, and when she did it again, she ended up suddenly running for it, as the old mare was hot on her tail, biting her butt. She never did that trick again, but she had several others in her little bag of bad child antics.
I saw Fleur(?) give June the "stink eye" and an ear tilt the same way Grandma checks her misbehaving kids at church. The whole "Don't make me come over there...!" vibe. That's when June abandoned everything and focused on chomping grass. I hope they work it out.
@@brendaclark5185 I know that look. I call it “the mommy look.” When I was little that look could stop me in my tracks and melt me into tears in an instant!
You are the most explanatory on the interaction and I enjoy that. Working in dog rescue for almost 24 years I learned to study body language. You explain in such a concise way and I’ve learned so much. Thank you!
I have never been around horses and your videos are amazing. I had no idea they are so lovely and funny. They are like a family that squabbles from time to time. But are still family.
Very interesting. I was just really expecting Fleur to be more obviously telling June off, but it’s so subtle that, without your explanation, I wouldn’t have realised she was being disciplined. I was involved with horses many years ago, but no-one ever explained their body language and communication.
I had a little pony who was not long castrated I put him out for the summer with about 20 horses he thought he had died and gone to heaven ,he was quickly set right by the head mare ,he came home with much better manners
@amzlee998 I believe this poster meant personally. Myself, I spent a long time with horses but I am no longer able to have interaction with them. Maybe something in my life will change and I can get back in in some way (I certainly hope so). As stated previously, my parents told me my 1st word was "horse". I was not able to be around them until the age of 8 when I met another girl whose sister had a horse, Aladdin. He was so patient, allowing me to groom him endlessly and, I loved to clean his stall. His owner had a lot of free labor. I only got to sit on him once.
@@susandivirgilio4551 thank you for context i thought it meant horse were like over in general like no more horses for no one ...i apologize for miss interpreting ...thank you tho:)
This is absolutely fascinating. I know nothing of horse behavior, so this was so cool to watch. Thank you for putting all the commentary in because you pointed out some things that I would never have noticed. Great video.🎉
Your narration distinguishes the different horses very well, allowing me to keep following your explanation with the visual illustrations and not get lost. Keep up the great work 👍🏼
@@GnarledStaff Tbh, the more people that get involved, the worse it is. That goes for guys or girls. Better for people to but out than to stick their noses in the drama
@@herpderp3916 yeah well June is literally eating all the good clover! -_- someone needs to check her, thank goodness Fleur won't take any BS....stupid boyz ... ugh!..just won't understand... when males ignore women then all the clover dissappears, tale as old as time...
Loved this video. Hope you find this interesting: years ago my Arabian Kalli lived in a small herd. Lead mare was Tia, a TB. Another member of the herd was Ff, a Welsh Cob. Ff would often chase Kalli, but not in play. She would dance ahead of him, he would lumber behind her with no chance of catching her. One day Ff came after her, she was about 2 at the time. She had been on box rest for a few weeks so was unfit. I could see she was tiring. I did not spot Tia's communication to Kal, she must have told her to cut across in front of her. Kalli did so and Tia immediately moved forward blocking Ff. Ff skidded to a halt. End of drama and peace reigned.
@@Sparrow.in.the.treetop This is true. If you ever see horses go nose to nose and take in eachother's breath watch their eyes. They are calculating pheromones.
Loved watching the interaction of these horses and the alpha mare . One of the first things I learned when starting to follow horses was the role of the mare in herd dynamics.
Wow. That's pretty cool you can tell all that. I love horses. People tend to think they're the dumbest of all the farm animals, but horses are actually very in tune to human emotion. And horses are exceptionally loyal too, like dogs.
They don't need to. Their language is much more complicated than ours. I hate when people say that animals can't talk to us. Ok, they can't speak words but, if you are open and pay attention, you can actually understand and even have a conversation. I know because I have.
It's so cool to see other animals doing this. Cats do the same thing! When there is a group of cats that "live" together, whether you call it a chowder or a colony or whatever, there are roles that all cats are inclined to participate in and they will 'settle' into hierarchies just like this. e.g. there is a role for spreading scent, to keep the group smelling strong and like each other. That cat will rub on ALL the members, and if the group of cats is LARGE, sometimes it will split into "groups" within the overall group, and this role will be neutral between them all. There is also a disciplinarian role specifically, like an enforcer that does the discipline on behalf of the leader/alpha of the group. In my years of rescuing, rehabilitating, and owning cats (60+ have been in my care over the years), I have had ONE enforcer type. They aren't the leader, but when another cat is chastised, they will rush that cat and stop in front of them, mean mugging and arching to look bigger, and IF necessary will swat at that cat as well to further draw them in line. The leader still disciplines, but this horse behaviour reminds me of the cat-enforcer, who may not be the actual group alpha but IS the one that keeps hte others in line. Fascinating!!!
@@Americandreamfarm It really is!! It's also so helpful when managing a cat colony, to understand the hierarchy and where each cat falls in it, because then you know how to approach them all. Makes it sooo much easier. Thank you for sharing with us!!
I was floored when you said Mr. Minding My Own Business is 25. Everyone out there is so gorgeously glossy, but he is absolutely burnished to glowing! What a pretty boy!
Thank you so much! I call Jaxx my shiny copper penny. He sheds out so beautifully every spring. He eats a really good diet and I think that really helps. Senior feed, Omolene 200, soaked beet pulp, and locally grown alfalfa hay, and of course grass.
I had taken my 2 yr old granddaughter to see my friends horses. In the group there was a yearling Morgan a 23 yr old Thoroughbred among others. The yearling was being fresh and the Thoroughbred corrected. Sam told the Thoroughbred to be nice, to Tan Tan. I explained that Tan Tan was being fresh and Teddy was telling him to cut it out. She turned to the yearling, Tan Tan, shook her finger at him and told him, "You be nice to Teddy. He's old." Tan Tan shook his head up and down, put his head down and was submissive. A horse whisperer in the making 😊
I love this story, and thank you for introducing your granddaughter to horses at such a young age and explaining to her what was happening within the herd.
@Americandreamfarm Thank you but I really can't take credit for introducing her to horses as she was already "horse crazy". She so reminded me of myself. My parents told me that my 1st word was "horse". I love that.
I’m so glad to have found you I love horses and all wildlife and have wanted to learn all about horses your videos and explanations are great I absolutely love the play by play it makes it easier to learn by observing thank you for the lesson I do wish it were a little longer thank you
Thank you for showing the different aspects of the herd dynamics. It’s nice to see it play out for educational purposes. You have beautiful horses btw! ❤️
I love horses but am not a horse expert whatsoever. I was so fascinated by your expertise and easy explanations and the way horses communicate. I went through some intense trauma a few years ago and went to an Equine therapist with her Equine Therapy horses. When I first met these horses they sensed my extreme anxiety and walked away from me but through monthly sessions, I started feeling calm and they sensed my change and wanted to be around me. Awesome animals to say the least. Thanks for your video.
Look how healthy and shinny their coats are...great job. Love these informational videos. How lucky you are to have an entire herd. Lots of work and dedication goes into keeping them healthy and happy. My respect to you 🎉
Thank you so much! It is definitely a labor of love, but honestly I would not have it any other way. I feel very blessed to have them. I will do my very best to give them the best care possible.
Fascinating! I would've never seen any of that if you hadn't described what was going on. It's amazing that all animals have their way of communicating and we just have to learn what it is! Thank you so much.❤
you never stop learning. I always knew mares were charismatic but I never knew they would rule over everything else, we're so accustomed to zebra documentaries where it's the male the one bossing around. Thanks for this educational and informative video.
I loved watching the herd come up for water. You can really see who was in charge. In our herd it was an older quarter horse gelding, followed by one of the mares. My guy was second to last. lol
Excellent point! When it comes to the necessary things it takes for horses to survive you will see who is in charge and how the others fall in. (food, water, shelter, personal space)
Thank you! I know more about equine herd dynamics than I did before watching your vid. They have a more organized society than I ever imagined. I'm not used to seeing horses interact without humans involved.
You are most welcome. By some of the comments I am reading that some folks don't think Fleur is doing much, but some of her defending or mediating the situation is very subtle, which is why I made a second video.
Thank you. I used to drive a team of horses as a logger. I wish we didn't do this to animals but at the time (35 years ago) I didn't know any better. I was a vegan and kind to them for the most part except for working so darn hard. I had to be up early,fed myself, gather my tools ( chain saws ) harness Jake and Harry (my horses) and be off in the woods working till dark 5 days a week. If I didn't work them during the week I would go riding on the weekend in the Pacific Crest trail in Oregon . It was a wonderful time for me except for working the horses which I liked but they probably would have rathered we just go for a walk. These days I'm trying to figure out how to get enough cash to have a place to rescue animals. It's a tall request but I'm not dead yet and it's a goal. Everyone wants something and I want a herd of horses n cows. I'm still vegan just like horses and cows lol hahahaha. I've paid attention to the personalities of hoses for awhile and cows. They're sentient beings just like some people and not food. Love your program n thanks for reminding me what I'm up to.
@@Americandreamfarm thanks. I need all the luck I can get. It's not the easiest job modifying myself to gather large sums of cash honestly lol hahahaha but it's my new goal
Thanks for showing us some herd dynamics. This is always such a fascinating subject. I learned a lot from early shows of Think Like A Horse with Rick Gore.
Thank you for that. I’m hoping to be a new senior horse rider. Always been my dream. I knew the horses had their own pecking order but this video truly depicts that.
I appreciate you using descriptions after the names even longer into the video so that I don’t forget you who are referring to. Helps for those is is with less horse backgrounds or who may be bad at names.
What's surprises me is that I could easily read the behavior. I haven't been in a horse in over 50 years and it was rare then: but their body language is so clear! Fascinating.
I love how the dad is like I’m minding my business. But he is right there. The narrator isn’t getting it but there’s a reason he is that close to them.
I just found you, but Thank you for this! I started self studying animal behavior when I was 15, mostly canine, feline, and primate.. since I've gotten older I've expanded, having source material like this is priceless for someone like me who LOVES horses and wants to learn, but has ZERO access to them. 🙏 From the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU!!
Fleur seems to be mediating rather than disciplining, she can see that June is angry and she’s encouraging her to take a moment away to calm herself so the issue doesn’t progress any further. Horses are truly a special animal, so much more intelligent and emotionally powerful than people generally realise!
Excellent observation! Yes, Fleur handled this situation as calmly as possible. June knows Fleur can get activated very easily if she pushes her too far.
This popped up in my channel and I decided to click on it. That’s very interesting! 🤔I never knew much about horse herd dynamics. Thank you for posting this! I learned something. 🧐
Thank you for asking. This herd is not completely linear, however some herds are. Fleur and Boone (father and daughter) are at the top of the herd. Fleur is definitely Alpha Mare. She is the disciplinarian. Boone is more laid back, but will clap back if need be. Jaxx can push around June and Boss, but a couple of months ago Queen made a very calculated move and can now push Jaxx around. Boss is at the bottom of the herd. Let me know if that makes sense ;]
I had no idea these kinds of dynamics existed between horses. Being honest I thought you were joking at first because I’d never heard of this. Thanks for making this informative video, I definitely learned from it. Fleur seems like she’s got things under control :)
I've had people yell at me about mares being stupid, that stallions are the only decision-makers in the herd. But the lead mare is super important in wild herds because she knows water routes, and teaches them to other mares. Mares have also been observed returning to stallions of their choice, even when being in another herd (as part of study of monogamy in nature.) The idea that mares just sit around waiting for stallions to tell them what to do when they make up 90% of the herd is really foolish.
I don't know a lot about horses so I could be wrong, but I think the stallion makes more of the decisions about protecting the herd as a whole and the lead mare makes more decisions about the little interpersonal conflicts. I suppose it could vary by their personality as well.
@@lonesparrowThe job of the stallion in the wild is to stay behind and protect the retreat AS the lead MARE gets them out of danger.
Never asked these people how herds with no stallion manage to survive?
Truth! If there is one thing that I have a hard time listening too is people ranking on mares. Mares indeed play a very important role in a herd, even more so in a wild herd, and when it comes to having a relationship with a mare, a mare will give you their complete heart and soul and devote themselves to you. I have known so many amazing mares.
@@Americandreamfarmssme ❤mares🐎! When i was a groom, at 1 point , my 4 mares & 1 gelding, was known as Susy's Pyscho Ward. 🤣🙃🤪. I got along perfectly w/ the "crazy" 1s. Another time, i had a light "gray" mare who was known as the White Witch Of The Barn! We did have our moments, however, she was MY girl And I HERS!! She made that clear to EVERY1😁🥰. When she left to go back to the farm, i lost my BEST friend that day. But, I've always had a ❤for Mares especially "NIGHTmares" 😁😍
I love that you're not interfering with the herd dynamic, to many folks would get involved with no idea of whats actually going on! Much respect.
I appreciate you saying that. We humans cannot and should not try to control everything our horses do. Once the horses settle this among themselves it will be settled and over. We have to remember they are prey animals therefore they think differently than we do.
We as humans shouldn’t try to control other humans either but, alas we’re here until our next fresh start.
Great video, very interesting!
@@andreastewart7786 ouch 😣
@@andreastewart7786Still a herd. If they live together permanently they ARE a herd! They’ve formed a hierarchy and everything. Artificially formed or not they’re still a herd and they are mostly acting the same as a wild herd just friendly with humans
Stallion maintains a harem and defends in the wild , mares follow the stallion but among the mare the oldest becomes generally becomes the alpha too, which the stallion would rely on to lead during searching for water or grazing places
I love how calm and fair Fleur is. She listens to June's complaints about the black horse but says 'you still can't beat up on her'. Toward the end of the clip Fleur seems to support June as much as keep her from the black. Lovely, calm and harmonious herd. 🙏🏽
You have just explained exactly how it was so beautifully.
I guess that’s why Fleur is the alpha? Because she has a good demeanor? Or is it something she just inherited, or being an older mare? (Sorry - don’t know about horses)
@@angmarbar11 I would say some of it is inherited. Her father, Boone is very quiet about his method of disciplining. We call him the Silent Man.
It looks to me that the chestnut may have been upset because the black mare was grazing close to your paint mare. We know that horses protect resources; food shelter water.
They were grazing, so it could be your chestnut may be trying to run the black off so she could graze near the paint mare. Since the alpha gets to eat wherever she wants to first, being next to the alpha means getting a pretty darn good grazing spot in your pasture almost all the time.
The way the chestnut came into the paint mare’s space and buttered her up, and then snaked her neck and ran the black off, then went and passive aggressively went to the water and waited while almost your whole herd started grazing in that very spot that the black had been grazing.
Then the chestnut came back and pushed the black far enough away from the paint to be bossy without getting a harsh reprimand.
If I had to guess, the black mare is younger than the chestnut too, and “big sister,” was feeling like the grazing arrangement was unfair.
Nicely done! And, we all know the triangle of 3 females never works, even in the human world 🤣
I wish people would stop assuming that every pinto is a Paint. That is NOT the case.
@@susandivirgilio4551 I believe the narrator said it was a paint, if I’m not mistaken. I know the difference between a pinto coloring and the paint horse breed, as well as the skewbald, piebald coloring, and the tobiano and overo patterns. Thanks for caring so vehemently though.😊
@@susandivirgilio4551so that’s what they’re fighting about?🙄
@@Americandreamfarm ~ Very well said!!
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Interesting bit about exchanging breath. I've done that with horses. Don't know why I felt compelled to do that but they were always interested.
Me too
I’ve noticed that horses love when I’m sweaty. I sweat a LOT, and I’ve known several horses who would touch their nose to my face and breathe deep when I got sweaty enough. Sometimes they would even try to lick my face. I imagine that on top of being delectably salty, it also had a lot hormonal information.
Oh is that why they say "horses are a good judge of character"? Because they can literally smell what's going on with you?
@@j897jthat and they are incredibly sensitive animals. They can sense your heartbeat from around 5 feet away which gives away more than you think
@@JLB_Horsemanship Interesting. Human heart projects magnetosphere 3 feet out from body and can affect biological entities around us.
I love this- I studied primate behavior and basically am interested in all animal behavior. You have some lovely horses!
Thank you so much!
Primate behaviour is also fascinating.
me at 3pm: I cant study, I cant concentrate
me at 3am: laser focused watching the behavior of horses
You are my people!
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I had an older Matriarch in my mare band. She was raised in Nevada on a ranch, so she knew a lot more than the rest of them, who were raised in small farm type settings. Most got along great, but if things go out of hand, she would just walk over to those who were arguing, look from one to the other as if to say, "This is at an end, now." And they would both walk away from each other. One young mare was a joker, and she would wait until everyone was asleep, and she was "standing guard", and then suddenly stomp and blow, causing everyone to panic jump to their feet and scatter, thinking they were being attacked by something. The old mare would pin her ears and the young mare would act contrite, but she wasn't. Finally one day, the old mare had had enough of her games, and when she did it again, she ended up suddenly running for it, as the old mare was hot on her tail, biting her butt. She never did that trick again, but she had several others in her little bag of bad child antics.
Yikes! It sounds like the older mare put her in her place =]
Hahahahahaha. They always have way more personality than people expect. 😂😂😂
Thank you so much for explaining these herd dynamics, I really appreciate it.
It's my pleasure.
The horse soap opera! I'm invested!! When's the next episode? 😂
I'm working on one now. I hope to post it today =]
I saw Fleur(?) give June the "stink eye" and an ear tilt the same way Grandma checks her misbehaving kids at church. The whole "Don't make me come over there...!" vibe. That's when June abandoned everything and focused on chomping grass. I hope they work it out.
Well done! It was all very civil as far as herd control goes on Fleur's part.
@@brendaclark5185 I know that look. I call it “the mommy look.” When I was little that look could stop me in my tracks and melt me into tears in an instant!
That’s a very healthy looking 25yr old. 👍
Thank you so much! We love our boy Jaxx.
You are the most explanatory on the interaction and I enjoy that. Working in dog rescue for almost 24 years I learned to study body language. You explain in such a concise way and I’ve learned so much. Thank you!
Thank you so much. I appreciate your kind words.
I have never been around horses and your videos are amazing. I had no idea they are so lovely and funny. They are like a family that squabbles from time to time. But are still family.
You have just made the best analogy possible to explain how the herd gets along =]
Yep :)
Very interesting. I was just really expecting Fleur to be more obviously telling June off, but it’s so subtle that, without your explanation, I wouldn’t have realised she was being disciplined. I was involved with horses many years ago, but no-one ever explained their body language and communication.
Read Monty Roberts book...The Man who listens to Horses ❤
@@davidriley1737ya his horse advice is great, and advice for teenagers. Don’t ever take his advice on babies!
I had a little pony who was not long castrated I put him out for the summer with about 20 horses he thought he had died and gone to heaven ,he was quickly set right by the head mare ,he came home with much better manners
😂❤😅
That's amazing. The strongest mare in the herd is always the horse that teaches herd etiquette =]
Horse days are over, but still always learning and love your analysis, thanks! 🐴😍🐎
Thanks so much!
what? horse days are over? they never beeen more alive
@amzlee998 I believe this poster meant personally. Myself, I spent a long time with horses but I am no longer able to have interaction with them. Maybe something in my life will change and I can get back in in some way (I certainly hope so). As stated previously, my parents told me my 1st word was "horse". I was not able to be around them until the age of 8 when I met another girl whose sister had a horse, Aladdin. He was so patient, allowing me to groom him endlessly and, I loved to clean his stall. His owner had a lot of free labor. I only got to sit on him once.
@@susandivirgilio4551 thank you for context i thought it meant horse were like over in general like no more horses for no one ...i apologize for miss interpreting ...thank you tho:)
And they may be returning ……
Love your narration...horse psychology love it!
Thanks so much!
They are beautiful. I love to see healthy happy animals. Even with their little tiffs.
Thank you!
@@rosegarza676 It makes Human psychology look boring
This is absolutely fascinating. I know nothing of horse behavior, so this was so cool to watch. Thank you for putting all the commentary in because you pointed out some things that I would never have noticed. Great video.🎉
Thank you so much! I'm so glad you enjoyed it. More to come!
I love this explanation. So fascinating ❤️
Thank you =]
Your narration distinguishes the different horses very well, allowing me to keep following your explanation with the visual illustrations and not get lost. Keep up the great work 👍🏼
Thank you so much! I appreciate you saying that =]
I love horses!! Don’t know anything about them so this was very interesting. Thank you for the post.
It's my pleasure. Thank you for watching.
The girls having their drama while the guys just stay out of it, lol
Lol! Business as usual.
As a guy, getting involved in girl drama has never exactly worked out well for me.
@@GnarledStaff 🤣😂😂
@@GnarledStaff Tbh, the more people that get involved, the worse it is. That goes for guys or girls. Better for people to but out than to stick their noses in the drama
@@herpderp3916 yeah well June is literally eating all the good clover! -_- someone needs to check her, thank goodness Fleur won't take any BS....stupid boyz ... ugh!..just won't understand... when males ignore women then all the clover dissappears, tale as old as time...
Loved this video. Hope you find this interesting: years ago my Arabian Kalli lived in a small herd. Lead mare was Tia, a TB. Another member of the herd was Ff, a Welsh Cob. Ff would often chase Kalli, but not in play. She would dance ahead of him, he would lumber behind her with no chance of catching her. One day Ff came after her, she was about 2 at the time. She had been on box rest for a few weeks so was unfit. I could see she was tiring. I did not spot Tia's communication to Kal, she must have told her to cut across in front of her. Kalli did so and Tia immediately moved forward blocking Ff. Ff skidded to a halt. End of drama and peace reigned.
Such a wonderful story! Thank you for sharing. The way horses communicate with one another is simply fascinating!
What excellent narratives. I have three horses, and it is very interesting to see my Alpha mare manage the two geldings.
Thanks so much!
Great explanation of herd dinámics. ❤
Thank you!
There is so much we can learn about ourselves watching horses
Truth! Thank you.
Jax is shinning like a new copper penny! Glad TH-cam picked you. Just subscribed.
That's amazing that you said that. I call Jaxx my shiny copper penny! We must be kindred spirits. Thanks for subscribing!
This was awesome to watch while you explained it! Thank you.
Thank you =]
Elephants are very similar in that they exchange breath to ascertain what is happening with others..
Yes, so true, and they are so intelligent.
I read the head Mare measures the amount of pheromones they release through their breath!
@@Sparrow.in.the.treetop This is true. If you ever see horses go nose to nose and take in eachother's breath watch their eyes. They are calculating pheromones.
Thanks for sharing. Most of us never get to see stuff like this. Beautiful to be there with you.
It's my pleasure. More to come. I am working on a cute new video now.
I know nothing about horses and have only successfully ridden twice, so this was VERY interesting!
Thanks so much, and thank you for watching.
Loved watching the interaction of these horses and the alpha mare . One of the first things I learned when starting to follow horses was the role of the mare in herd dynamics.
Thank you!
Wow. That's pretty cool you can tell all that. I love horses. People tend to think they're the dumbest of all the farm animals, but horses are actually very in tune to human emotion. And horses are exceptionally loyal too, like dogs.
Yes, you are so right! Truly sentient beings.
Thank you so very much for consistently clarifying who was who! It helped me out loads in understanding what was going on and keeping up with you ❤
You're most welcome.
I laughed so hard at the “he’s 25 years old” line! 😂😂 my guy just wants to be by himself and away from the drama llamas.
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This is the best explanation. I love it
Thank you and thanks for watching.
I’m so glad you’re in my feed! I’m really enjoying your posts and learning about the horses’ behaviors!
Welcome Beverly! Thank you.
They communicate as well as we do without even speaking
They don't need to. Their language is much more complicated than ours. I hate when people say that animals can't talk to us. Ok, they can't speak words but, if you are open and pay attention, you can actually understand and even have a conversation. I know because I have.
Super interesting to watch. I appreciate your commentary.
Thank you. I appreciate you!
This was a great example of herd hierarchy! I used to watch this at my own place. I appreciate you posting, for education & people like me. Thank you!
Thank you so much! I truly appreciate you saying that.
It's so cool to see other animals doing this. Cats do the same thing! When there is a group of cats that "live" together, whether you call it a chowder or a colony or whatever, there are roles that all cats are inclined to participate in and they will 'settle' into hierarchies just like this.
e.g. there is a role for spreading scent, to keep the group smelling strong and like each other. That cat will rub on ALL the members, and if the group of cats is LARGE, sometimes it will split into "groups" within the overall group, and this role will be neutral between them all.
There is also a disciplinarian role specifically, like an enforcer that does the discipline on behalf of the leader/alpha of the group. In my years of rescuing, rehabilitating, and owning cats (60+ have been in my care over the years), I have had ONE enforcer type. They aren't the leader, but when another cat is chastised, they will rush that cat and stop in front of them, mean mugging and arching to look bigger, and IF necessary will swat at that cat as well to further draw them in line.
The leader still disciplines, but this horse behaviour reminds me of the cat-enforcer, who may not be the actual group alpha but IS the one that keeps hte others in line. Fascinating!!!
Truth! We have a cat colony of 5 barn cats and there is definitely a hierarchy. We see it every day. I find all animal behavior fascinating.
@@Americandreamfarm It really is!! It's also so helpful when managing a cat colony, to understand the hierarchy and where each cat falls in it, because then you know how to approach them all. Makes it sooo much easier. Thank you for sharing with us!!
So interesting watching them work stuff out. Thx for this! 👏🏼🌸
It's my pleasure, and you are so right. They are working things out. Thanks for watching.
Your horses are beautiful, healthy and well cared for. Well done.
Thanks so much!
I was floored when you said Mr. Minding My Own Business is 25. Everyone out there is so gorgeously glossy, but he is absolutely burnished to glowing! What a pretty boy!
Thank you so much! I call Jaxx my shiny copper penny. He sheds out so beautifully every spring. He eats a really good diet and I think that really helps. Senior feed, Omolene 200, soaked beet pulp, and locally grown alfalfa hay, and of course grass.
Incredibly interesting! I love watching this stuff and understanding more about herd dynamics in all livestock! Thanks so much for sharing this!
My pleasure. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
That is so interesting! Thank you for sharing
Thanks so much!
Thank you for explaining this. I found it very interesting.😊
It's my pleasure.
June had a bit of a stick up her butt that day 😂😂😂. Fleur is saying “Stop it! It’s all fun & games til someone gets hurt!”
I had a small herd of mares at one time and found the dynamics complex and fascinating. Thanks for sharing your stories
It's my pleasure. I could watch them all day! =]
Thank you so much! I find this amazing and such a learning experience!
Thank you! It's my pleasure.
I love this! Play by play of horse behavior. I can live vicariously through your posts. 😊
I'm so glad you enjoyed it. I'm working on a new one I'll be posting soon about how horses react to horse flies. It's quite a show!
I had taken my 2 yr old granddaughter to see my friends horses. In the group there was a yearling Morgan a 23 yr old Thoroughbred among others. The yearling was being fresh and the Thoroughbred corrected. Sam told the Thoroughbred to be nice, to Tan Tan. I explained that Tan Tan was being fresh and Teddy was telling him to cut it out. She turned to the yearling, Tan Tan, shook her finger at him and told him, "You be nice to Teddy. He's old." Tan Tan shook his head up and down, put his head down and was submissive. A horse whisperer in the making 😊
I love this story, and thank you for introducing your granddaughter to horses at such a young age and explaining to her what was happening within the herd.
@Americandreamfarm Thank you but I really can't take credit for introducing her to horses as she was already "horse crazy". She so reminded me of myself. My parents told me that my 1st word was "horse". I love that.
@@susandivirgilio4551 It's in her blood.
Thank you, that's a very nice story ❤
I’m so glad to have found you I love horses and all wildlife and have wanted to learn all about horses your videos and explanations are great I absolutely love the play by play it makes it easier to learn by observing thank you for the lesson I do wish it were a little longer thank you
Thanks June! I just put a poll up on the community page. Let me know what topic you would like to learn about most in a longer video.
Thank you for showing the different aspects of the herd dynamics. It’s nice to see it play out for educational purposes. You have beautiful horses btw! ❤️
Thank you so much for saying that. The whole purpose of my TH-cam is to be educational.
I love horses but am not a horse expert whatsoever. I was so fascinated by your expertise and easy explanations and the way horses communicate. I went through some intense trauma a few years ago and went to an Equine therapist with her Equine Therapy horses. When I first met these horses they sensed my extreme anxiety and walked away from me but through monthly sessions, I started feeling calm and they sensed my change and wanted to be around me. Awesome animals to say the least. Thanks for your video.
My pleasure. I’m sorry you had such a hard time. Horses can detect a heartbeat 8-10 feet away. I’m glad you reached out for equine therapy.
Look how healthy and shinny their coats are...great job. Love these informational videos. How lucky you are to have an entire herd. Lots of work and dedication goes into keeping them healthy and happy. My respect to you 🎉
Thank you so much! It is definitely a labor of love, but honestly I would not have it any other way. I feel very blessed to have them. I will do my very best to give them the best care possible.
What healthy shiny coats they have! You take good care of them. :)
I love learning the body language and dynamics. Thanks!
Thanks very much!
Fascinating! I would've never seen any of that if you hadn't described what was going on. It's amazing that all animals have their way of communicating and we just have to learn what it is! Thank you so much.❤
Thank you! I'm like the sports commentator up in the booth giving the play by play! 🤣😂
you never stop learning. I always knew mares were charismatic but I never knew they would rule over everything else, we're so accustomed to zebra documentaries where it's the male the one bossing around. Thanks for this educational and informative video.
It's my pleasure. Thank you.
That chestnut in the corner is perfect coloring to breed to a Palomino. I was a Palomino Breeder for years
I loved watching the herd come up for water. You can really see who was in charge. In our herd it was an older quarter horse gelding, followed by one of the mares. My guy was second to last. lol
Excellent point! When it comes to the necessary things it takes for horses to survive you will see who is in charge and how the others fall in. (food, water, shelter, personal space)
Love herd dynamics! And love your play-by-play calls haha!😂
Thank you! My pleasure.
Oh I LOVE seeing the natural herd and theur conversations, great video❤
@@Equine_positive Thanks so much!
Thank you for sharing this!
I absolutely loved your commentary and look forward to watching your next video.
Thanks so much! I'm working on one for today.
Fascinating! I don’t know anything about horses but I love learning!! Thank you for sharing!
Of course! I'm working on a new one now.
My horse was the alpha Mare she ruled. She kept everyone in line.
Thank you! I know more about equine herd dynamics than I did before watching your vid. They have a more organized society than I ever imagined. I'm not used to seeing horses interact without humans involved.
Thanks so much!
Very interesting! Thank you for the clear and verbose explanation for those of us who are primarily city folks! Beautiful horses!
You are most welcome. By some of the comments I am reading that some folks don't think Fleur is doing much, but some of her defending or mediating the situation is very subtle, which is why I made a second video.
Interesting, this is my first time watching horse dynamics. Thank you for the narration!
Thank you. My pleasure.
So interesting. Thanks for sharing your knowledge & understanding of these magnificent creatures. 👵🏻💕🐎
It's my pleasure. Thank you!
Thank you. I used to drive a team of horses as a logger. I wish we didn't do this to animals but at the time (35 years ago) I didn't know any better. I was a vegan and kind to them for the most part except for working so darn hard. I had to be up early,fed myself, gather my tools ( chain saws ) harness Jake and Harry (my horses) and be off in the woods working till dark 5 days a week. If I didn't work them during the week I would go riding on the weekend in the Pacific Crest trail in Oregon . It was a wonderful time for me except for working the horses which I liked but they probably would have rathered we just go for a walk. These days I'm trying to figure out how to get enough cash to have a place to rescue animals. It's a tall request but I'm not dead yet and it's a goal. Everyone wants something and I want a herd of horses n cows. I'm still vegan just like horses and cows lol hahahaha. I've paid attention to the personalities of hoses for awhile and cows. They're sentient beings just like some people and not food. Love your program n thanks for reminding me what I'm up to.
This is beautiful. Thank you for sharing. I truly hope your dream comes true.
@@Americandreamfarm thanks. I need all the luck I can get. It's not the easiest job modifying myself to gather large sums of cash honestly lol hahahaha but it's my new goal
Fascinating. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you!
I love equine psychology. Thank you for recording and sharing this clip.
Thank you. It's my pleasure. More to come!
That was riveting. I watched every moment with great interest. Thank you for making the video and for explaining what was going on!
Thank you so much! More to come.
YES THANKS FOR TELLING ME THIS AS I NEVER KNEW! I JUST SUBSCRIBED!
You are most welcome! Thanks for watching and subscribing =]
Thanks for showing us some herd dynamics. This is always such a fascinating subject. I learned a lot from early shows of Think Like A Horse with Rick Gore.
Yes! Great show.
Very interesting. I’ve had horses before, but never more than one at a time. I enjoyed learning about herd dynamics, it’s fascinating
Thank you, Please make more of these
Thank you! I definitely will keep them coming.
Thank you for that. I’m hoping to be a new senior horse rider. Always been my dream. I knew the horses had their own pecking order but this video truly depicts that.
Thank you so much.
I appreciate you using descriptions after the names even longer into the video so that I don’t forget you who are referring to. Helps for those is is with less horse backgrounds or who may be bad at names.
Thank you for watching. I appreciate you saying that.
What's surprises me is that I could easily read the behavior. I haven't been in a horse in over 50 years and it was rare then: but their body language is so clear! Fascinating.
I love this!
Thank you for sharing this video & your knowledge! Beautiful herd!
Thanks so much! My pleasure and thanks for watching!
I love how the dad is like I’m minding my business. But he is right there. The narrator isn’t getting it but there’s a reason he is that close to them.
Excellent eye!
I just found you, but Thank you for this! I started self studying animal behavior when I was 15, mostly canine, feline, and primate.. since I've gotten older I've expanded, having source material like this is priceless for someone like me who LOVES horses and wants to learn, but has ZERO access to them. 🙏 From the bottom of my heart, THANK YOU!!
Thank you so much! I truly appreciate you. I love body language.
Fleur seems to be mediating rather than disciplining, she can see that June is angry and she’s encouraging her to take a moment away to calm herself so the issue doesn’t progress any further. Horses are truly a special animal, so much more intelligent and emotionally powerful than people generally realise!
Excellent observation! Yes, Fleur handled this situation as calmly as possible. June knows Fleur can get activated very easily if she pushes her too far.
Thank you for going onto so much detail! This is so interesting 💕
It's my pleasure!
I love watching herd dynamics. Thanks for your video.🐴
It's my pleasure. I shall keep them coming. Stay tuned for an upcoming horse fly body language video =] It's quite a show!
Your explanation was very easy to follow and understand.
Thank you!
I never knew this stuff, so thank you. Very interesting to see how the herd dynamic is.
Thank you. It's my pleasure!
LOVE your explanation :). Looked right on the money! I love all horses, big, small, young/old, etc. Subscribed, hope to see more videos :).
Thanks so much for subscribing. More to come! I'm working on one for today.
Great observation about the horses behaviors. Equine psychology - fascinating!
Thanks so much!
This popped up in my channel and I decided to click on it. That’s very interesting! 🤔I never knew much about horse herd dynamics. Thank you for posting this! I learned something. 🧐
Thanks for watching!
Horses are AMAZING bless these babies
Thank you!
Thank you for sharing and explaining. I was fanscinated!
It's my pleasure. Thanks for watching.
What might have June done? Or why is June going after her? Very interesting ty for showing!!
It's more what Queen has done. I missed filming the beginning, but we think Queen made a move to get about June.
Is June or Queen above in the hierarchy? Besides Fleur and Boone, where does everyone else fall? I'm extremely curious about hierarchy in herds
Thank you for asking. This herd is not completely linear, however some herds are. Fleur and Boone (father and daughter) are at the top of the herd. Fleur is definitely Alpha Mare. She is the disciplinarian. Boone is more laid back, but will clap back if need be. Jaxx can push around June and Boss, but a couple of months ago Queen made a very calculated move and can now push Jaxx around. Boss is at the bottom of the herd. Let me know if that makes sense ;]
@@Americandreamfarm yes that makes sense! You can really see every horses unique personality
Thank you for your coverage on horse dynamics and behaviour very well explained. I’ve definitely learnt something new today. ❤️🐎❤
Thank you so much!
I had no idea these kinds of dynamics existed between horses. Being honest I thought you were joking at first because I’d never heard of this. Thanks for making this informative video, I definitely learned from it. Fleur seems like she’s got things under control :)
Thanks so much Kitty. Fleur handled the situation and diffused it like a true diplomat. Some horse body language is very subtle.