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I really dislike TLJ, but I really liked this video. You did a very good job explaining why you love TLJ without being condescending to those who don't. Much respect!
thank you! It was very important to me to be as passive and compassionate to those that don't like it as possible. Everyone pretty set on how they feel about the movie by now, but no one's mind is getting changed through sarcasm or anger 🙏
@@LoverboyMedia I have personally been trying to call out irrational people on both sides of the fence. I really dislike the gatekeeping on both sides, and this video was a breath of fresh air. Thank you for that.
Loverboy Media JOKES ON YOU! I beatcha to the punch for once.
The only bad thing is that there are no character development in the main characters.
Oh my God, someone who likes the last Jedi and also appreciates the prequels! You truely are a rare and beautiful specimen.
Finally you see the Prequels in a positive light
the sequels is just trash
@@user-silentnight1234”Is” just trash? Lmfao. Grammatical error detected. Opinion rejected.
@@MediaLoverChris02 the trilogy was a mess and screwed up so many characters like luke,han, and palatine
If I have one problem with this video, it's that it isn't 7 hours of deep diving into everything that makes this movie great cause I honestly would've watched every second.
Great video regardless.
Me too!!!!!!!
I respectfully disagree. The movie is not well made.
@@chile_en_nogada2090 I think it's easy to argue that it is, in fact, a very "well-made" movie. You simply didn't like the movie itself. And that is fine. (I - on the other hand - thoroughly enjoyed it...)
@@fathervader Well yes I totally think it wasnt an enjoyable star wars experience. But actually I am one of the few that also believe that the movie was poorly made in terms of direction. Rian Johnson just cannoy direct the actors well. Its really interesting to me. Rey when she is 'training' with Luke is so lifeless compared to Rey in the force awakens.
Also cinematography wise. If you create a pretty still or picture but the meaning behind is pointless or confusing then the picture itself is not good. I am mainly talking about the Holdo Manuever. Which has already been needed to be retconned twice. Its these things that demonstart to me that not much thought was behind the movie or scenes. This movie broke star wars cannon so many times.
That holdo scene also included the use of slow motion which breaks star wars cannon. Slow motion doesnt make sense in star wars movies as they are supposed to be a drama or like a stage play. In a stage play you cant do slow motion.
There are other ways it breaks cannon but I do not remember right now
Chile_En_ Nogada There has been slow motion in other Star Wars movies before TLJ. Luke’s moment in the Dagobah cave & Rey confronting Kylo near the end of TFA.
Also..TLJ is a beautiful movie!
Thank god people still talk about Star Wars in a positive light somewhere
'StarWars' is ep 1-6.
The rest is 'DISNEY Star Wars'
mrpotatoguy1 this is exactly what I’m advocating against. kindly take this comment to someone who agrees or cares.
@@gryotharian The truth hurt your feelings
mrpotatoguy1 ok, if that’s really your opinion there’s no reason for you to be watching this video except to be a troll in the comments, so whatever. Say what you’re gonna say buddy.
@@mrpotatoguy1 This guys opinion apparently hurt your feelings
BAILEY, HOW ARE YOU ABLE TO CONTINUE TO ALTER MY PERSPECTIVE ON FILMS I HAVE DEEP-SEATED ISSUES WITH?? YOU'RE AMAZING!!!
This man gets it. If I hadn’t been anxiously following your torment over how to salvage this video after Rose of Skywalker, I’d never have guessed it was made with anything but total confidence and clarity of purpose from the jump.
Another thing that is rarely brought up is that Luke being a bitter hermit who withdrew himself from the conflict was Lucas’ idea from his original story boards.
Pepsiman53 this was also said by the writer Lucas worked with iirc
collin doucet If Luke was like that since the beggining it would be fine.
Pepsiman53 And yet people will still use it to validate him as having conceived the superior sequel trilogy. Assuming he did and not that he wanted ROTJ to be the end. Or maybe he didn’t. Because sequel trilogy haters use both. Pretty clear someone’s wrong.
Luke Dias he’s very publicly said that he had wanted to make a sequel trilogy and that he wanted to make 3 trilogies
As far as we know, there was no conflict. i.e. an empire knock-off with a ridicoulous amount of resources popping out of nowhere, nor a "neo-resistsance". It was supossed to be something similar to the EU comics with a different storyline.
We know that Luke was to become a depressed hermit after he was betrayed by one his students, known as the "Jedi Killer". And that he will get back in action by the end of the first movie and die in the third. Also Han and Leia's son (who might be the Jedi Killer) left the Jedi and took a female Dark Side user as his master.
This is different from an asshole and nihilistic Luke who believes in determinism, and who despises the concept of heroism. One who believes that it is impossible to redeem Ben, even though he redeemed Darth Vader who did much worse atrocities (in the canon comics, Ben didn't even try to destroy the Jedi temple so he didn't betray the Jedi Order or Luke. He escaped after he saw Luke near his bed with his lightsaber raised, and a mysterious storm came soon after and destroyed the Jedi temple). After years of this worldview, Luke finally decides to sacrifice himself as a Force projection (instead of using his ship which was retconned into being functional), and finally die as he wanted to, because Yoda's ghost mocked him for being a bad Jedi and not reading Jedi texts as he should have, and telling him he should teach his failures as well.
I love everything about this. Your vo made me choke up in parts. I will never get tired of rewatching this movie and you articulated your feelings about it perfectly. Clearly people will never agree on the movie and that's fine but to see someone talk about a movie that is so special to me personally,with passion, sensitivity and such an acute understanding of the core themes of Star Wars as they appear to me, is awesome. Thank you so much Bailey!
Beautifully put and actually made me shed a tear when you were articulating Luke confronting the first order. TLJ really struck something in me the first time I saw it , and I agree it was something inside of you .. “the spark” as they say. Love hearing Star Wars fans talk about Star Wars in a balanced and thoughtful way. Thanks for this awesome video !
Honestly the more I think about it, I love this movie more and more
it's funny because to like this movie, you have to do the exact opposite of thinking
Just like a lot of people hated the prequels, they are now loved by many.
@@byronvanleeuwen7579 There are still alot of people that hate it, but that is just them. I respect them, but I just love TLJ and SW in general!
I love this movie too. In fact, this whole trilogy is my favorite so far although that's usually an opinion not many people share.
@@bluepearl_22 That is totally fine my friend.
I unabashedly love The Last Jedi, warts and all. Because it comes from a place of sincerity and heart, from a talented film maker who clearly loves Star Wars and understands it bone-deep.
I can't wait to see Rian Johnson's trilogy, where he's not constrained by JJ bloody Abrams.
I only wish, in a perfect world, that Rian's trilogy would be about Rey, Finn, Poe Dameron, Kylo Ren, Snoke, Phasma and Rose. Because I love all of the versions of those characters in The Last Jedi.
I don't even think he was constrained by J.J.
As far as I'm concerned, he was constrained by Disney.
Rian even said he would've been willing to do Episode 9 but wasn't able to because there was just too little time, but not just that, Colin Trevorrow had a script (available online) for his own Episode IX that was built upon the foundations set by The Last Jedi, and similar to The Last Jedi, he wrote the film while observing the story taking place within the previous one. Disney scrapped it because they wanted to appeal to the vocal minority but instead pleased absolutely nobody and made a hack job of a movie that almost rivals Justice League.
@@charlessheridan9114 And sadly there won't be a Rian Johnson trilogy because of that same vocal minority. I say minority it's hard to gauge but it certainly a sizeable and loud section.
I used to be part of two different Star Wars Facebook groups and in both groups the broadly positive to negative ratio was about 75/25 so 25 is a lot and they were certainly more vociferous regards making their views heard.
@@Malky5279 Rians trilogy hasn't been cancelled and he said bout a week ago that he really wants to get back to star wars. i'l be rioting if he doesnt get his trilogy.
@@Yoda-wf6bu I think you rioting is more likely than that trilogy happening. Like to be proven wrong. It's a shame he wasn't in overall creative control of the whole sequel trilogy so it could have been a cohesive story.
@@Malky5279 agree that he should’ve made the entire trilogy.
I think he will get his trilogy eventually. Why else would they still hold on to him? TLJ was a commercial success, no matter how much TLJ haters want to deny it.
Here's just an interview from one month ago where Rian said very quickly that he's still in contact with Kennedy about his future involvement in SW: th-cam.com/video/bwiiaW5hkVw/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=TheHollywoodReporter
Posted the same day that Rian Johnson got nominated for an Oscar.
like poetry, it rhymes
Gaz 84 he’s a good filmmaker and there’s nothing u can do about it 👍
@Gaz 84 or it could have been the birth of an amazing one if disney had the balls to continue the narrative that rian set up but they didn't
@Gaz 84 alright I was gonna go on every point u made but I think it's better if I show u a video and it doesn't have to change your mind ( it's probably not gonna anyway ) but its gonna clear some of the invalid criticism you have and make you see why people love this movie ( and yes I know it's flawed I even hate the whole canto bight thing but I still love the movie ) anyway go watch cinemawins's video on the last jedi it's worth it even if u hate it I promise
i loved every star wars movie ever made Watch Mauler’s criticism of The Last Jedi and respond to all of it.
J. J. Abrams made an uninspired mystery box, so Rian Johnson pooped in it to troll. He mocked Abram's plot points he worked so hard to set up in the previous movie and humilated various characters, and dismissed the Star Wars' themes, and presented a nihilistic and deterministic view of the universe; Luke Skywalker hates himself and the concepts people would find inspiring in Star Wars because Rian Johnson hates them as well. It doesn't help that the plot is non-sensical and internally inconsistent.
He has talent directing, but Star Wars isn't a good fit for him.
I love how a movie can spark limitless ideas and arguments! no matter how you feel about the execution, this movie is no doubt so thoughtful and challenging
"so thoughtful and challenging" you are right, even after 2 years ... people are still wondering "how could anyone write such a shitty movie?"
gamefan987 idk what you are talking about TLJ was a masterpiece
@@mrpao7353 "TLJ was a masterpiece"
What makes it a "masterpiece"?
"this movie is no doubt so thoughtful and challenging"
How so?
@@qmulus1 I mean, look at all the brainpower being spent on this movie 3 years after it’s release
Going from your BvS video to this:
"I've seen this raw strength only once before. It didn't scare me enough then. It does now."
Just replace "scare" with "amaze" because this was another incredible video.
This was just beautiful. You are so so right, we are all that kid and I am so glad that there is someone out there who loves The Last Jedi just as much as I do, Canto Bight and all.
You are the only last jedi defender that I've seen that hasn't taken jabs at the other side or hasn't taken the moral high ground in any way. Thanks man
I guess he had more integrity than to just go after the fruit that is hanging so low it's dug it's way to China and back about 26 times.
BROOM BOY TRILOGY WHEN?!
DEFINITELY THE POINT OF THE SCENE, RIAN JOHNSON A TRUE CORPORATE KING
HE WAS A BROOMER BOI, I SAID I SEE THROUGH YA, BOI; UNLEASH YOUR ANGER AND BE FREE
But he don’t speak English, 90% of Star Wars fan base is English, RYAN WHAT WERE YOU THINKING?!
Never you know it we all do after TROS struggle bus its not happening its a full stop reverse Cinephile fans the door for the minority part of the fandom is right there with your name on it
@@CynicallyObnoxious After literally being proved wrong in another reply section.
You're still on about it.
The Rise of Skywalker did in no way fail at the box office. It simply didn't do AS well as the other 2.
Making over a billion for Disney is an absolute win. It nearly quadrupled the budget.
I agree with everything you just said.
The Last Jedi's brings me tears of joy every time rewatch it.
My favorite of the saga.
I don't like the sequels but if you like it good for you
@@binbasesatoktayyldran5236 why can't there be more people like you in the fandom?
People who hate that Luke doesn't answer the call to arms immediately blow my mind. Like, remember how the whole previous movie was about how he ON PURPOSE vanished from the galaxy?
I have no idea why everyone consistently ignores this point... Like... JJ set up Luke being a hermit and someone who had lost hope. why else would he be chilling on a deserted island while Han and Leia were fighting The First Order????
Exactly my thoughts. They expected him to behave like the exact same brash kid from the originals, and were angry when his character had changed and developed over the 30+ years since the original trilogy.
Exactly!!! This was on TFA
wait, but didn't han say that he went looking for the first jedi temple? and he even left a map for everyone to find him? Why is he surprised when they eventually find him?
These really don't hold up to much scrutiny lol
I fell in love with this movie with the first scene, it just makes me feel so happy
Blown away, my dude. You nailed this. ❤️
thanks brother 🙏
@@LoverboyMedia can you do this with the rise of Skywalker
Bailey, your last two videos have given me life. I'll defend BVS & TLJ till the day I die for trying to be more than just another franchise blockbuster, and trying to challenge our notions of these heroes. I don't just give points for trying though. I think Zack Snyder & Rian Johnson are fantastic filmmakers who really elevate the material. People who say you're being contrarian for attention are really missing the point. I am just about the least contrarian person you could meet, but I love these movies because they resonate with me. Thank you for making two inspiring videos about two films that have such bitter cynicism surrounding them. Can't wait to see what else you do next!
Amazing!!! All the things that I love about TLJ are here
And you'll always have that one Star Wars movie you loved and stanned and the lone RJ SW movie
@@CynicallyObnoxious I got your back
I love luke not because he is perfect, but because he is human.
And I love that you said that.
That's what I liked about his character since he's not the god everyone wants him to be and honestly the people who wants this should just ask Disney to make a Series for Luke between ROTJ and TFA where they show the god luke.
Hell Yeah!!!
@@LordSidious066 ya They started with Mando Mando Mando! They will do that again
U LOVE US ALL THEN
The part from 16:19 to 16:22 with the cut from broom boy to Luke, from a beginning to an end, was beautiful. It's like poetry, it rhymes.
I knew I wasn’t alone in loving TLJ.
You soon will be my friend once I hunt down and execute every sequel fan u will be 🌚
@@binbasesatoktayyldran5236 so I recommend deleting your account
@@binbasesatoktayyldran5236 i recomend you take a week or two off the internet and rethink your priorities and wonder if its really worth it to be so hateful too something that you irreverently claim you will executing million of people
@@aidengoodrich5974 😭 damn dude you changed my life. Thanks
@@aidengoodrich5974 Don't take it so seriously it's a joke
To me “Broom Boy” is the best ending to a Star Wars Movie ever in my opinion
You should go watch Return of the Jedi..
@@caseytodd7632 I do like TLJ ending but this is a very good point. I'd say the ending of Revenge of the Sith is also top tier.
i didn’t really love TLJ, but i DID love broom boy lol
If u think about it TLJ makes more sense as episode 9 than 8
A shame that he got erased in TROS. He would have been in Duel of the Fates!
To me the one scene that comes to my mind when I think of what scene encapsulates star wars for me is: Your were my brother anakin... I loved you!
Family, brotherhood, friendship and tragedy all in this one scene between a jedi and a sith. This scene stands for why I love star wars
Rian Johnson is a genius and this movie is awesome
It's nice but also amusing how TLJ seems to have the same fate als Empire back in the days: Lukewarm to condeming responses while a lot of critics loved it. Then it grew on people.
"Lukewarm to condeming responses while a lot of critics loved it. Then it grew on people."
That's not true.
The Last Jedi was the Star Wars movie we needed, not the one we deserved.
on the other hand, the rise of skywalker was totally not the film we needed, but the one the star wars fanbase deserved.
tuurvig maybe that explains why it wasn’t very good.
@@yvngdende I was implying that fans got what they deserved for the constant bitching about TLJ
tuurvig TROS was great, it retconned a ton of the garbage decisions from TLJ. Even if it was also a bad movie, you
gotta appreciate JJ giving Rian the finger for over 2 hours
@@jebalitabb8228 amazing, every word of what you just said was wrong
This is so good man. Rise of Skywalker only served to further highlight how good this movie is. For the first time since the originals I was given a movie that felt like it was forging a new path and challenging viewers.
Luke’s greatest triumph was throwing his lightsaber down to serve as a symbol of good to Vader. The last Jedi sees him reclaiming that by again becoming a symbol of triumph through pacifism. A projection of the ideas he inspired. Evil destroys itself. Ideas are bulletproof.
Oh wow I love that final sentiment there. Beautifully put.
FUCK that last paragraph just hit me straight in the heart. I actually teared up after reading it (no joke).
Not really it just further proved how much of a awful unplanned cluster fuck this trilogy was
@@CynicallyObnoxious you got anything to back that up?
@@davznothere yea the trilogy itself the back and forth with in LF of saying yes it was planned but wait no it wasnt lol stan all you want doesnt change whats happened
The Last Jedi is the masterpiece of this trilogy.
The perfect SW film. Might as well as ended here. The ending was perfect..
100%. And given where the next movie went ... err, yeah, definitely should have ended here.
YES
Even though everyone still has a war to finish?
Siranjeev Santhanam lol NO
LOL
You have this amazing ability to pull out and examine the core themes of a film, which I love because you show me things I never would have thought about on my own.
With all due respect, having a good idea isn’t enough. You also have to execute it well, and to me, a random woman telling a child soldier, who is trying to run away from war, about evils of war as if he’s learning it for the first time isn’t well executed. And frankly I had to learn the concept of good ideas don’t equal good execution the hard way in my English class. My teacher kept praising me for the brilliance of my ideas but criticized my poor execution. I believe it’s the same case with TLJ.
That is if you believe every idea behind the movie was brilliant off course, which i don’t...
Nurettin Burak Cevikparmak I don't think you meant to reply to my comment...?
@@Lau.mp4 They, like many Prequel fans, are in the midst of a fevre dream at the moment. It all began when Disney bought Lucasfilm...
@@nurettinburakcevikparmak6298 Rose isn't simply telling Finn about the evils of war, she's showing him a whole different world. She's showing exploitation, greed, injustice and people benefiting from the war. Things that he has not experienced as working for the first order. He left the first order because he was terrified by their executions and was afraid he would get killed himself. Now he realizes that the problem is even larger. The evil doesn't only affect himself but the entire galaxy. Rose is showing him a side where he's not fighting only for himself and his own survival, but for the greater good for the people of the galaxy.
What makes a movie good is totally subjective how it was perceived by the viewer. If someone thought that the movie was great because it conveyed powerful themes and messages then that's totally fair. Thats usually how people defend the prequels.
Last Jedi is gonna be remembered as the good one
jeromemmac No
TFA was better and did not ruin any character
Hail Pickens 24 bro just go away and let people love shit for two seconds please? Okay, I love you and respect you bye ❤️
I totally agree with you, man. 2 years have passed since the release of The Last Jedi and people can't stop thinking and talking about it.
The Last Jedi is the one that is going to survive the test of time. It will be remembered as one of the greatest SW movies.
Lmao no, it'll go down as among the most divisive.
The Last Jedi was the best movie watching experience I’ve ever had. (Not saying it’s the best movie ever made, it’s just the most hyped I’ve ever been for a film that satisfied me so thoroughly)
I hated it but that's your opinion if you liked it good for you
I loved The Last Jedi from the first time I saw it and I think this video did a great job of talking about what makes it so good
Cannot wait for RJ’s trilogy. TLJ was the best Star Wars since Empire. Such a great score, cinematography, characters and new additions to the SW lore. Sure, the movie has its problems, but to me, the great stuff simply outshines the bad. I can sit through the “meh” stuff because the great stuff is just so fucking great.
What's funny about that is that back when Empire came out everyone hated it. Critics loved it but the fans absolutely despised it because it didn't follow the theories that everyone had came up with. They also thought the plot twist of Luke I am your father was the dumbest plot twist. Funny how history has a way of repeating itself. Also can't wait for Rian's trilogy as well
Keep waiting for that because it's probably never going to happen and good luck with a box office youll less return then TROS did
@@DianaDxD You are lying
Do we even know that the Rian Johnson trilogy is still happening? I know the plan was for Rian to start working on it after finishing Knives Out, but that was when Star Wars still had a movie every year plan. With the schedule having slowed down, can we confirm that he's still on it? With all the persistent whining there's been about this movie, I'd worry that he'd be the first to get taken off the board. Which would suck because I for one would love to see more of challenging and layered Star Wars movies.
@@Swenglish If you remember it was a sure thing hes up next blah blah blah now its Kevin Feige and before they left the GOT guys and RJ keep getting pushed back and now its a "Well were still talking" His trilogy isnt happening with out KK being there and I dont see her being there after 2020
Goodness, the buildup of talking about hope and the metaphor of Luke disregarding it by throwing away the lightsaber...it was so good.
Rey sees giving it to him as hope, but he sees it and thinks of all the flaws of the Jedi and himself. What a great clash of perspectives all wrapped up in a single moment.
And damn, if that doesn't make Luke's last stand even more emotional. Fantastic interpretations sir!
Wow a sequel comment section that doesn't bash the preaquels to prove a point that's a nice change
My dude. I don't comment on YT videos; I just don't do that kind of thing. But this essay made me emotional - you have managed to sum up all the reasons I had (and some I didn't know I had) for *loving* The Last Jedi. The theme of hope, the essence of the Skywalker saga, the potential story telling options that TLJ's ending presented on a silver platter - all of it was exactly how I feel about the film, and it simultaneously makes me grieve for the film RoS could have been. I have to think that, were Rian Johnson able to watch this, he would take you out for a drink. I am subscribing to your channel enthusiastically.
Wow, thank you for this!
This is my favorite Star Wars movie, no shame!
me too, man. And I'm old school. This movie even made the prequels work for me. It sort of tied everything together. Love it. No shame.
It's my third favorite, but I can see why it would be your favorite.
It’s my favorite too. ❤️
@@martinprehn9353 This ^. I love the way TLJ is able to not retcon the prequels, but reframe them in a new light. It really helps to tie all three trilogies together into one saga. And I'd argue it's more success at doing so more than RoS.
@@RyanSPK I agree completely. And it's nice to have a civil exchange about star wars these days.
The editing of this video is fantastic, great use of musical cues and pauses to add intensity! I love The Last Jedi and happy to see others that do as well! Great job sir.
I think the last Jedi is going to be seen more and more as one of the great Star Wars movies over time
the last jedi will just be shitted on for the rest of eternity
@@user-silentnight1234I really wanted to like it, but I will never forgive what they did to Luke. Han’s character growth being erased was painful to see, but Luke’s disgrace and downfall was too painful to watch.
Rian really went and made one of the best movies of all-time. King shit.
th-cam.com/video/PMe5Bsrcenk/w-d-xo.html
I was just graduating from college at almost 22 years old when I saw the first SW film. I have waited over 42 years to watch the last of the nine movies. I have loved the journey. I did not have a lot of expectations, just patience. I do not parse each scene, each plot line, each bit of dialogue. I enjoyed the last trilogy. It's done. If I were a well-established writer/director asked to finish up the saga, I probably would have had a different take on at least some of the plot and characters, but I'm not! So I'm just glad and gratified that I lived long enough to see the story completed, at least for now. You "kids" need to realize that we didn't know in the early summer of 1977 that there would be a sequel, let alone three trilogies. There may be more, someday....
People will look back fondly in 10 years time on TLJ
I mean maybe if Disney makes a worst trilogy it might happen
People already do, it's just the lame ass and currently extremely vocal prequel fanbase that are crying about it. Every other levelheaded person enjoyed it well enough.
@@jimjam7928 Not really. People have good reason's not to like the movie. That includes OT fans and Star Wars fans in general. I don't like the prequels except for ROTS. But I still think TLJ is a horrible Star Wars movie. The comedy sucks, the characters are bad, they ruin old character's like Luke and the story is horrible. It's a nice movie to look at but beyond that it's pretty bad. I wouldn't say it's my least Star Wars movie. But just because you like it that doesn't mean everyone likes it and it's only prequel fans who hate it. Again I'm not a prequel fan and I hated the movie so did my friend I watched it with. It's a shiny looking mess. But again I need to say it's not my least favourite Star Wars movie. Also you saying the prequels fans are toxic is wrong. Star Wars fans are toxic in general you can't change that. But if I had to pick one side that was the most toxic it would be the sequel's. Why? Because they call people sexist and homophobic and other stupid stuff if you don't like their movies. It's laughably bad. The prequel fans and OT fans maybe toxic too but lmao. They never used stuff like that for their arguments. The sequel fanbase is one of the worst fanbase I can think of. I know everyone their isn't bad, I actually met some really kind sequel fans. But majority of them are just insufferable. If you like the sequel'a fine but don't go blaming people and calling the toxic for not liking what you don't. Because then you are the toxic one and *you have become the very thing you swore to destroy* .
@@jimjam7928 Not really. I'm technically from the 'Sequel generation' and I really don't like those movies. People have valid reasons to dislike it, ever thought about that? And instead of calling the Prequel fans toxic, maybe you could try to find out why they don't like the Sequels? What do the Prequels (and the OT) have that the Sequels don't have? Have you ever thought about that, or are you only going to call every Prequel and OT fan toxic without thinking about it for more than three minutes?
There are people that take a deep dive into the Sequels, people who can explain why thinks don't really work in great detail.
Or just people in general who can explain in great detail why they like or don't like something. People that look at filmmaking, dialogue, acting, use of CGI, visual storytelling, comedy, tone, etc. There are people like that you know?
Style is Substance, Rick Worley, So Uncivilized, probably Mauler, smaller channel, bigger channels, etc.
I highly doubt that
Listen, ain't nobody hate the new trilogy more than me. But this is a good video.
This makes me happy
Thanks for your honesty, brother. Puts you leagues above the blind haters and ragers : ) love that you can appreciate an opposing point of view
Lost Empire
There are ragers on both sides.
I feel the same way, except I don't hate the new trilogy that much, just certain parts of it make it unwatchable.
I loved this movie from day one. I've been arguing with haters ever since. And it's funny to see that haters aren't nearly as vocal as they once were. All their arguments are rubbish, it boils down to one simple thing... they expected Luke to be a god and smite the bad guys while everybody else sat around and watched. This movie did everything a sequel should have done, it expanded the lore, added to the legend, and made the Force a universal thing again.
Buuuuuuuut. Jar Jar Abrams had to destroy all that in an attempt to appease the haters. So now Star Wars is just another universe of superpowered mutants fighting each other. So long, broom boy... unless your daddy was somebody the "superfans" like. Then Disney can get permission from the haters to make a story about you.
John Terpack yeah now those same haters are giving Rise of Skywalker shit and I’m like “Well... you got what you asked for so....”
@@justinmartin4570 and they're not even smart enough to realize that.
@@justinmartin4570 That's the best part
They like, treat TROS issues as some sort of win, even though they "Listened to the fans" exactly like the fandom menace said to do.
Effectively, lucasfilm listened to them, found out it was the stupidest idea ever, and the fandom menace Honeslty Dosent see how much of a lose that is
@@johnterpack3940 You know it's possible to not like both for different reasons, right ?
Gosh I love this franchise and this movie so much that I can’t even write about ıt. Just like you, I am in love with Star Wars. And this movie, refreshes the series. It just gets better each time I think about It’s scenes, visuals, storytelling.
.such a great video. You just spoke for me, thank you friend
From the moment I first saw The Last Jedi, I knew that this was one of the best Star Wars films ever! I fucking love this film! I’m so happy that more and more people are giving it another try and finding that they love the film!
how can you like this pile of garbage it ruined luke skywalker and made rey and marry sue
It’s amazing how the last Jedi has gotten so much love over the years especially after rise of skywalker when it was hated in the beginning. I personally found the film overhated and thought it was an exaggeration that it was called “the worst Star Wars film ever”. Like seriously I’ll still take this over attack of the clones. And sure this movie has its major flaws but people can’t deny the good parts from it like the themes, the scene with Luke, Rey and Kylo and of course as always the music. And honestly I feel bad for last Jedi fans. Yeah this movie wasn’t perfect but I can understand their frustration when rise of skywalker retconned it because many other fans hated it. Good video.
Bascially Episode IX alienated the fans that were ok with TLJ. But it also didn't win back the old fans. Disney shot themselves not only in one foot but both feet.
Its still hated RJ will never touch SW again
@@henryvdl3692 I am so glad for that.
@@CynicallyObnoxious I really want to see your face when it happens
Amazing, every word in that sentence... Was absolutely right. Seriously the hate this movie has gets blown WAY out of proportion. The Last Jedi isn't perfect, but I feel the good parts help balance out the weaker parts and makes it overall an enjoyable experience.
Personally I love Rey. She communicates a lot to me. She is simply pure, fun and relatable character.
True
Rey speaks to people who have never had to work for anything in their life 🤣
I find her to be a big nothing. What did she do in this movie that seemed fun to her that didn't involve killing people?
Same here!
@@rcdune7132 Bet you expected a ratio there 🖕
That last part? I felt that, especially since on my 25th year as a Star Wars fan! Fantastic video!
I love how people instantly praise The Last Jedi as soon as The Rise of Skywalker happened.
I've been a fan since day one and the video was written before TROS
Yeah me too
I observed people since day one and I thought to myself
“This film is gonna age well”
@@kurousagioktavia4374 I love both TLJ and TROS! They’re both good movies and JJ Abrams didn’t retcon TLJ IMO.
And then my mom asks why I want to by a figurine of a Star Wars character... LIKE THAT'S WHY. Because it reminds me that I shouldn't give up hope when times are dark, the same way my heroes don't. With every positive video I watch about TLJ, I get more assured that people who bash it have never actually thought about it's underlying ideas. Perhaps they are scared they will like it and alienate themselves from the loud and hateful part of the fandom? Maybe. But that is what Star Wars is all about. Be the part of the Resistance, save what you love, and leave the haters annihilate themselves.
Thank You for spreading hope throughout the community!
No we have we still hate it we hate the new characters you wanted to latch onto and stan over the corpses of the ones we loved its why we stopped going 2nd week its why we did what we did to SOLO and its why we laughed as TROS struggled at the box office to hit a billion. Well laugh when KK moves on and well laugh louder when RJ moves on because his name is poison to anything Star Wars now
@@CynicallyObnoxious what is it with these fans
@@ryanbarth6691 desperation they can smell that they'll never have anything like TLJ again and they know deep down THEY WHERE THE MINORITY IN THE FAN BASE
@@CynicallyObnoxious what do you think of the fan base
That last 3 mins dude was just on point on why we love TLJ and Star Wars and it just baffles me how people cant see that in this movie. I guess we all truly have different perspectives. Awesome video btw bro
A lot of the detractors are still butthurt fanboys who were upset about the Clone Wars being cancelled and revere the Prequel Jedi and how they conducted their wars, even though if you look at the Jedi in the Prequels they should have been just as much the villains as Palpatine was, (if Lucas knew how to write properly...)
The Last Jedi in particular addresses this directly, which already gives it a leg up on the Prequels.
I love this video this video made me love the last jedi more
I know 🥰 the movie is so enjoyable
Great video! You nailed it. You did such a great job eloquently explaining what makes this movie so powerful. I love this movie, and I think in time, it will truly get the recognition it deserves.
“What defines star wars for me? Well.. Everything!”
Uh yea the same can be said about literally anything
Oh uh duh u so smart, you really showed 'em!
So, basically, Rian Johnson is a fucking Chad.
Now, on an even more serious note, it's really funny 'cause I've seen some of your videos for a while and kinda dug them, but it was this one from a franchise I don't care about that actually made me decide to subscribe to your channel. The Last Jedi (among other few examples) is the only thing that seems interesting to me out of such a tarnished by its idiotic fandom franchise, and the way you talk about it and everything else simply transmits joy and passion. I know that you wanted to cover the "Rey is a nobody" angle (something that seems like a genius idea to me, as an outsider to the convoluted clusterfuck that is the Star Wars universe) but guess the people who took the decisions for TROS weren't in the same frequency, to put it mildly.
Anyway, hope you keep it up, dude! All the best!
Mate. I have only just come across your channel and am loving every clip. Thankyou.
TLJ has been the best of the new series by far because of the grey-ness it show and how complete it is on every level. Thanks again for highlighting broom boy as he has just been an after thought for me (despite getting the theme he represnted when I saw the movie).
And its good to hear an Aussie accent in the movie-tube. Cheers
I loved TLJ because it had the balls to be different
So the other star wars movies are just the same? Wow I never heard that before.
@@binbasesatoktayyldran5236 the prequels took risks. TFA and ROS did not. This is not an opinion. It's objective. Just like Enterprise was the last Berman Trek, killed because it was generally a mix of Voyager and DS9 in it's execution.
@@bemasaberwyn55 I agree with you
Yeah....diffrent yet it copies battle of hoth, Luke's arc is copy of Yoda's on dagobath and all ships are reused from other films so either you are stupip or blind or we saw diffrent movie
I love TLJ 🖤 It was the movie that got me into the SW franchise.
Don't let anybody turn you off. Stick by your opinions, I think most reasonable people will admit that more fans is good no matter how you got into it. I love TLJ too.
There's a lot of love being thrown to the sequel trilogy in the Star Wars defined playlist.
It's almost like all the hate the movies get is just a pile-on and nothing more.
The only reason the haters are the ones you see most often compared too fans of it or sensible critics, is because they talk about it way more
The reasone people hate sequel fans is because they attack the preaquels to prove a point but when they don't I'm fine with them
This brought tears to my eyes and a smile to my face :') It's always nice to hear someone talk about something they're passionate about and this movie gets so much hate that it's honestly a breath of fresh air to see this. Great job!
This spoke to everything I also love about TLJ. Thanks for putting so succinctly what would take me 2 hrs to try and convey.
This is my new favorite Star Wars video. Thank you for this!
The shot at 7:12 with Luke throwing the lightsaber - where the hell did that come from?!
it's from the Bluray behind the scenes. Can't remember which video though
Great video and articulation of your point. Rise of Skywalker made me love and appreciate Last Jedi even more, and I wish they were able to build off the ideas in last jedi.
I vote that you make another Last Jedi video someday. I love this movie too (mainly because it handles learning from your mistakes in a masterful, unexpected way), and I would love to hear more of your takes on it.
Rebecca Crow thank you! I love it too!
Pitty nobody actually learns anything, they just keep failing and making idiotic mistakes.
That's why Last Jedi was such a disatser, it was pure example of 'triumph of form over content'.
@@ReichLife I'm curious, what mistakes specifically are you referring to? To me, I've always seen the movie as giving each character one big mistake to make that are based around strong characteristics of their personality - Rey trusting Kylo Ren, Poe committing the mutiny, Finn and Rose with breaking onto the Starkiller, and especially Luke with reacting in fear to Kylo Ren - and each of them learn something from these experiences. I think if Rian Johnson wrote part 9, the mistakes they learned from in 8 would have actively played a part of the story.
Edit: I don't mean that Luke's fear is his character trait. Luke's situation is far more complex because he is the character we haven't spent time with recently.
@@rebeccacrow9013 Luke's recklessness and impulsiveness are a character trait though. Throughout the Original Trilogy Luke makes many impulsive decisions. He sees Ben die and was going to take on the entire Death Star right then to avenge him if he had to only to relent when Ben's Ghost told him to back off. Luke gets a vision that his friends are in danger and rushes off to try to save them despite that his training has barely started and got his hand chopped off as a result (and ultimately didn't do anything to help.) Luke hears Vader threatening to turn Leia and he goes ballistic on him and nearly falls to the Dark Side.
All Luke did was on impulse ignite his saber and then realize immediately "what the F am I doing?" which shows his character growth since those days that he stops himself so quickly, but far too late.
@@immortalfrieza I agree, recklessness and impulsiveness are better ways to define that part of his character. It's a very balanced trait, that is serves both as a strength and a weakness. I think what I was trying to clarify is that I wasn't saying fear was a character trait of his. Fear is just something he has been grappling with for a long time (in my interpretation of the movie), and it has shaped his character, but it's not central to his overall character in the way that love for his friends and recklessness/impulsiveness does define him. (I gathered the person I was speaking to earlier would not have liked me accidentally implying Luke has always been a scaredy cat, which he hasn't been).
I have such an unpopular opinion, but I love Luke in this movie. He resonated with me in a way he never did in the original trilogy. Rian took his foundational character and made him nuanced in a way that makes so much sense for someone who was forced to take on the responsibility of preserving an entire culture when that wasn't originally what they signed on foor. Luke only signed on to save one person and have an opportunity to leave his planet. I know everyone wants their childhood hero to come in and save the day, but I am such a sucker for stories where you see the hero later and they were not how you expected them to be.
I already love the Last Jedi, but great video Bailey!! I truly love your content, it gets better and better!
And Star Wars Theory was left out of the collab...
I have NO idea how that happened.
I loved Last Jedi as well. And this scene in particular.
Thank you so much for being positive about not only The Last Jedi but about all of Star Wars. There's so much negativity on TH-cam and the internet in general, so it's nice to see some appreciation for such a great movie like The Last Jedi: the movie that turned me from a casual Star Wars fan into a Star Wars superfan. I instantly subscribed when I saw this video!
the last jedi deserves all of the hate
@@user-silentnight1234why?
Honestly? The Last Jedi is maybe my favorite Star Wars film, or at least aside from the original/Empire.
It's my favorite one!
Honestly, the last jedi is maybe my worst star wars film
Easily my third favorite
So, in other words, the same Philosopher-Director who brought us the "Rose Finn kamikaze kiss, saving what we love" debacle was really trying to teach us about the Force and Hope too? Force-sensitive slave children that remain in servitude so they can sweep stables with less effort...and Hope? Wow, that's awesome dude!
The Last Jedi is by far the best movie in the sequel trilogy, and the best Star Wars since the original trilogy. I love it.
The Last Jedi is The Dark Knight of The Star Wars Saga
This is fantastic and the way you built up the ring reveal was epic. Good shit.
Thank you!
A generation from now, I feel that The Last Jedi is going to be redeemed as the greatest movie of this trilogy. There is just so much deep stuff in it that this video only scratches the surface on. Yes it had mistakes, but they were mistakes made by a producer that was willing to take risks and revive a franchise that was in danger of growing stale.
The Rise of Skywalker, on the other hand... 😩
Rather have a movie with incredible highs and lows than a movie I fall asleep to. In my opinion TLJ is the best of the trilogy
ROFL You damn well know its not just because you stan the film the nuwave fans where never needed or wanted nuwave Star Wars died a pathetic death shame it took it all down with it oh well I already own 1-6 and CW
@@perlindeberg3417 "a movie with incredible highs and lows"
Are you talking about TLJ? What "highs and lows" are you reffering to?
Forklift17 if all your praise is based on a movie’s themes rather than the actual fundamentals of its storytelling, there’s gonna be no hope for the future of film.
@@matthewtrujillo3309 amen
The lightsaber throw will go down as one of the if not the most impactful scene in Star Wars history, not just from a story- but also from a meta standpoint. When that scene happened in the theater, my initial reaction was "Oh hell yes! Now we're going somewhere." That scene did something that was bound to happen at some point anyway, it split the fanbase forever and as time moves on, more and more people will recognize and acknowledge the importance of that.
Background music : Bloody Waters from the Black Panther Soundtrack
Amazing... everything youjust said...
Was right.
I find The Last Jedi the masterpiece of the Skywalker Saga.
Me too
Not just a Masterpiece,
The Dark Knight of the Star Wars Saga!
Yes, it’s that good!
Same
Thank you. Thank you for finally confirming why I love The Last Jedi and why it adds so much to the lore and legacy of Luke and Star Wars as a whole.
I think we all are that broom kid at the end. Made me cry, thanks for this, I absolutely enjoyed TLJ aswell, and I was trying to explain why, and you did it perfectly, THANK YOU
I’m starting to see people finally recognizing The Last Jedi.
I am so happy.
Day one fan here, but it's great seeing others start to feel the same
Honestly, the more videos I watch about TLJ the more I love it. TLJ is my favorite out of the entire saga, why? because it showed us that no matter who you are or where you come from you are special.
This video legit made me cry. That's why I love SW too. Thanks for this!
Grow up
Ill be honest, I hate this movie and this trilogy as a whole. I hate how it tears apart the original characters and squanders the new ones. I hate how they completely misunderstand the point of the original and to an extent the prequels. However I DO NOT HATE THE FANS OF THIS TRILOGY. Nobody is lesser if they like these movies or the characters in them. If I can understand why there are reasons a person would like these movies then those people can understand why others don't.
The Sequel Trilogy doesn't tear apart the original characters and squander the new ones nor does it misunderstand either the original or prequels... until Rise of Skywalker. Up until that point they had all of Star Wars done damn near perfectly. However, thanks the mindless and baseless hatred for The Last Jedi in particular causing Disney to backpedal, Rise of Skywalker was a hopeless dumpster fire that retroactively made the rest of the Sequel Trilogy far worse. It was trying to act like The Last Jedi never happened that turned the Sequel Trilogy into a disaster.
This movie touches me in a way no other Star Wars movie is capable of doing. I know a LOT of people hate it, and I get it. But it means so much to me. Great video
You have done it again. Your writing is inspiring and makes me wish I could write as beautifully as you. Keep up the terrific work dude!
So glad we agree on this film. It's my third favorite SW film after Empire and New Hope and I wish the people that dislike this film saw what you and I see in it.
Thanks for making this video, it is so well done! I keep trying to like The Last Jedi, as I know there are so many great things about it. For some reason the flaws of it seem to stand out to me more than in other movies, and I’m having a hard time seeing past them. When I see videos point out the positive it helps me move past those! Thanks again! Love your channel!
I will never love this film, even though I REALLY wanted to before I saw it opening night. I was super hyped to see Luke Skywalker again. Seeing him as a loser on an island just killed it for me. I'm no longer interested in Star Wars like I was.
if you're a lurker make sure to like the video so it doesn't get dislike bombed
When you started talking about it Broom Boy it almost made me tear up. In reality we are all Broom Boy
XDDDDDDDDD
11:37 “My stick, my stick, my stick is better than bacon!”
Thunk your coconut with my stick (look at my stick!)
I think in a couple of years these movies will be loved
Beautiful video, Bailey. There were a few moments there where some tears wanted to come out.
A Star Wars Defined video will come from us, too. Stay tuned.
Yesssss get on it 🙌
@@LoverboyMedia Will do. We'll hit you on Twitter to talk about details.
It warms my heart when I here someone mention the 2D Clone Wars miniseries.