Well... I just installed a "Radar 195/65R16" car tire on my 2003 Goldwing. It was tight but got it in place without any prying tools. Looks good too. Also installed Eco beads for balancing.
@@akorotney When I installed the tire, I made sure the "yellow" dot was by the valve stem. With that in place and the balancing beads, there is absolutely no wobble or vibration.
Yogi: Funny thing I've noted all the biggest Naysayers on Darksiding were doctrinaire "in the box thinkers": 0% had tried Darksiding yet were cocksure it would fail ! Yet, those who HAD & were doing it, the vast majority were pleasantly surprised and vowed to keep on Darksiding. As usual, ignore the "negative Nancies" and keep on riding ! I've got a 145/60R13 Michelin Compact on my 2006 Suzuki Burgman 409 Maxi-Scoot. Superior ride, handling, comfort & confidence vs the uber short lived MC tire. I'll never mount a rear MC tire again.
Nope.. does it "work" yes it does. But all tires are made for redundancy. When you dark side you have no redundancy for the beads. It does put you at more of a risk. Also because of how it is built the car tire will make you countersteer more. It will also tend to drag you around. Basically handling compared to a motorcycle tire is shit. Beyond all that if you get into any accident and it is found that you are riding dark side... you will not be covered. Period. So if you want to save a little bit of money at the risk of your ride.. well that is something only you have to weigh.
Thanks so much for posting on the verge myself of going dark side fed up with high MC tire prices no mileage something has to happen soon as I can find someone to mount it which I hope is soon will definitely go that way
Talked to a number of guys while out riding that have tried it and all of them had nothing but good to say . But with a 5000 mile break in and having difficulties finding someone to mount it at this time i am not ready to try it but found this video very interesting thanks Yogi
I used to go through MC tires like changing underwear, so many years ago I bought the famous Harbor Freight tire changer and bolted it to my basement floor. Paid for itself after about 1 year! :-)
Now that you mention it, I found that interesting too. No matter how far down he wears that tire, there's always going to be rain sipes going off the edge of the tread, deep ones too so that's another thumb up!
Nice job! I’m on my 7th CT on my 2005 Triumph Rocket and 2nd on my backup 2015 Rocket. I consistently got 25,000 miles out of the GY, Toyo and Rikens and usually swapped them out before long road trips. I now run $100 Riken Raptors and pushed the last one to 31,000 miles towing a heavy trailer. It could have gone higher but it had a screw in it (NO leak though) and I figured I got my moneys worth out of it. As important to the $$ saved, I only had to arrange for ONE tire change on the road instead of FOUR for roundie MC tires. I’m also Double DarkSide on both bikes running rear Michelin Road 5’s flipped backwards. That tire drops the front to compensate for the smaller diameter CT on the back regaining cornering agility, costs less than OEM MC tires, and they get 18,000+ miles vs 11,000. No brainer there!!
I had a GL1800 goldwing with a run flat tire. Once I had it seated, I usually ran with air fairly low. My final tire was a dunlop 5000SP. Lot of mileage but finally sold the bike due to a failing transmission. I had to go down on my PSI until it began to wear flat across. I think it was around 30-32 psi.
Great video, I also went dark side on my 2019 Road Glide Ultra, I have low miles less than 2 thousand on the darkside, but love it. When you get the tire wet and then park n the garage you see the huge difference in tread width. What I wonder is, the braking distance may be greatluy improved with a wider back tire. Maybe. I do know traction in loose conditions is a lot better.
Wanted thanks EVERYONE for sharing, later I will go dark side. After I wear my Dunlop out.. suppose to get 18k but I just recently put tow-PAC trike on it.. I wasn’t able hold the Goldwing up due health. You guys doing great !!
I'm Darkside on my '02 Goldwing and really like it. been on the same tire for the past 3.5 seasons (about 13k miles) at 41psi and it still has a lot of tread left. Here is my thoughts on it.... More load capacity, Wider contact patch, cheaper than a MC tire. Miles per tire? as long as I get at least what I got out of a regular MC tire I'm well ahead of the game just due to cost. If I get more miles, even better. When I ren an MC tire I used Avon Venom's and got 18k out of them, based on tread i should easily exceed that with the cheap Achillies ATR sport I have on now. People say I'll get more miles out of it if I lower the pressure... I say "so?" 41psi is what I like and if I only get 20k I can buy 3 more of the same tire and only spend what I would have on 1 MC tire. But for me, it's the load rating I like the most. MC tires load rating was 800lbs, CT is 1300lbs..... When I'm loaded and 2 up on a trip, I easily exceed the 800lb weight.
I'm running a Goodyear viva 3. Loving the ride and my wife says its a better ride for her. Think I've put about 1000 miles on it so far. And as far as a twisty road, I drag the floorboards just as I did with the motorcycle tire.
You know I have seen one guy who swore by running a car tire on the rear of his harley who never had any problems I wish I would have asked him which tire he ran. I have thought about it because car tires are usually radial ply not bias ply there are a lot of good points to radial tires. 15k or more out of a rear tire I would be thrilled. As for inflation I was taught rule of thumb on all tires is if you want to run lower pressure avoid anything under 8psi under what is specified on the sidewall. Could be wrong yet if I remember correctly over in I think Norway running a car tire on the rear of a harley has been popular for a long time. Thanks for showing the contact and wear this is really neat. Dick Allen years ago ran according to an old magazine I have ran a 155/15 Pirelli tire on a 12 spoke magnesium racing wheel on the rear so now I am really curious about trying this or seeing how possible it would be for me.
Running a Yokohoma Avid Envigor in my Valkyrie. Mostly happy with it. Much longer life than any of the MT's I've run, but still the center is wearing faster than I expected too. I wonder if 40 psi is a touch high and that's doing it? Or may have to do with my heavy wrist? Lol Bike carves mountain roads like no bodies business with that Car tire mounted. Handles differently, but it definitely handles.
See, that’s great feedback right there. From what I hear people are telling me that’s a touch too high PSI but to me if that’s where you like the ride then who cares what the PSI is and if the center wears a touch faster.
I have found only minor merit in the MT propagandists warnings on dark siding. And if I used the minimum amount of common sense while riding I found no reason to avoid a CT. I found the tire I use on my ‘06 Goldwing, was easy, cheaper, way more mileage, stopped nicer and better handling in most situations. I used Dyna beads for balancing without any issues. I found more wear in the middle probably due to too much air pressure. Finally the added circumference corrected Honda’s pitiful speedometer. I’m all in on a CT. I agree it should be used by a seasoned rider. Further I would not advise putting a CT on every cycle. But for a touring bike….I’d have no problem.
I put an Austone Taxi tire on my Valkyrie Interstate. I can't even remember how long ago it was but to my knowledge you can't even get them anymore it's been so long. Probably around 2014. Also don't remember what the mileage was either (I know, nice going!). But I can tell you it's got at LEAST 30K on it so far and it still passes inspection! Only issue is that it's getting kind of worn flat across the tread, really is time to change it anyway, I just haven't really ridden the past 5 years so I don't give a shit. In any case, in almost 250K of motorcycling the past 35 years, I've never had a rear tire last longer than 10K on anything I've owned (usually about 7K). Show me any MT with even 15K on it and I'll show you cords!
I ran the austone on my Fatboy for a bit. It didn’t work well on there so I took it off. You’re right though you can’t get them to my knowledge any more
@@YogisCycleService Actually I'm not crazy for it either. I liked that it was about an inch or so taller because these damn Valyries are geared so low they get worse gas mileage than some cars, which I think is ridiculous. I did pick up about 3 mpg and it wears like iron, but I'm looking forward to something different next time. Will never go back to a MT on a cruiser though!
The high pitched naysayer voice thing absolutely got me 😂. I was chuckling each time you did it 😂 Edit: My reason for considering darksiding. My 21 Goldwing non-tour rear tire has hit the wear bars at 7k miles and 1 year. These tires are only made by Dunlop, Bridgestone, Shinko, and Metzeler. The Dunlop and Bridgestone tires are nearly THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS each. $300 annually is not something I’m keen on…
Under new guidelines 4/32 is what they are saying is time to change tires. I can sit down with ya and drink a pot of coffee, and have conversation about what the tire is doing. Anyway I was expecting more miles too. My thoughts are change it sooner than later. The view was cool and listened to it in my car and sounded like you were next to me. Need the pipes from Miss Piggy.
Yes, if I have some $$ left over from Christmas I may just go ahead and get a new tire and have it on hand for when the time comes. I too am a bit surprised at how worn down it is at only 15.000 miles.
If you are wearing center more than edge, drop a couple of psi, until you are wearing even. It isn't the tire's fault, it is your arbitrary inflation psi.
Great video! Do you think the side wall of the car tire is stronger than a motorcycle tire? I guess you would know more when you change out the tire? Which I would love to see your video of you changing it out! I bought a Road King that has the Michelin commanders on it and love the way they ride and run in the rain. Thanks for what you do!
I honestly do not know the answer to that question. I imagine the sidewall of a car tire is thicker but I am not for sure. Thanks for watching and commenting!!
For a better idea, compare the load ratings stamped on the tires. The DS tire probably has 3x the load rating of the MT. My money says the sidewall of this tire will hold more than the center tread of the MT!
@7:41 ‘come on now’ is not a lucid counter-interrogatory. the seal and the bead might differ. Data and mono-variable double-blind experimentation may lead to comprehensive and practicable theory.
I've been seriously thinking about doing this with my 2007 Yamaha Road Star. It's a heavy bike and I'm a big guy. Regular motorcycle tires just don't hold up for me. Question is, How do you determine the size car tire to replace the bike tire?
On a car, wear in the centre means pressure is too high, but maybe the 41psi you use gives a better, rounder profile? Did you experiment with lower pressures? Lower pressure might mean better wear spread and less breaking in, to get some flex.
I do not know the answer to that question but there are a ton of places to get that answer on the Internet if you search for it I know Facebook has a couple dedicated pages to it
How do you know which tire to go with? I currently ride a 2015 Kawasaki Voyager and will be going dark side soon as the rear tire needs replaced. Any recommendations to make the best selection?
Search the web. There are a lot of resources out there including a Facebook page that has a lot of people on it who can give you recommendations because they have the same bike. Rollin darkside I think it’s called
Interesting write up. My bike is a 2011 Softail. I have just over 63K miles on my bike and about 500 miles on my first car tire, a Michelin 205/50R17, it was $117. The stock tire is 200/55R17. It is odd you mention 20K+ on the Commander II. I've run two sets of commander II. I got about 10K on the first rear tire then only 8K on the second one. The best mileage I've gotten so far is the Dunlop American elite, about 12K. I just pulled off a Commander III with 7K and it is well into the wear bars. I don't do rides with groups, I don't have time. I commute with my bike and average 300 miles a week, so I cam barely getting a year out of a rear tire and sometimes not that much. I don't burn out seldom go over 70-MPH. At 500+ miles my dark side tire feels like it is close to being broken in. If I get 20K on it that would be a 100% improvement. Also I found slow sharp turns to be more manageable with the dark side tire. It will be interesting to see how it goes. I change my own tires so no problem there and I'm running 40 psi. 🙂
I have a 03 fatboy also and the most I have ever gotten out of a tire on it was 12,000. Not sure why my touring bike gets more per tire but it does. The fatboy did not like a car tire on it, I would get a wobble at higher speeds. Seems fine on the ultra.
I’m not trying to be condescending however I do not see any advantages to going dark side. Are there any any advantages to running a car tire over a motorcycle tire? The only advantage I see is cost.
Sure. I have used them for a total of 250,000 miles on various machines. 124,000 on my current Goldwing alone. Besides the cheaper cost is safety. If you use a run-flat design, not only will you never have a sudden deflation such a blow out, but if your tire does get a puncture not only will it not go flat on you but you can wait until you get to your destination to have it fixed. That's what did. Twice. And I _adore_ the smooth ride that I get. So much better than I even thought it would be. I can still corner hard enough to grind the footpegs so that's not a issue either. I was hesitant to try darksiding at one time but was over 20 years ago. Sure no hesitation anymore! 👍
I spent way too much for tires on my Roadmaster. Does anyone know of a darkside Indian rider? A friend runs dark rear and MC rear reversed on the front tire and doubled his mileage on the front tire. Oh yeah, he rides a Gold Wing.
I've had one on the back of my GL1800 for over 100,000 miles and love how it rides as well as how good it looks. Especially from the rear. Looks bad ass.
I've been in this subject for awhile and have done a lot of research and absolutely nobody has expressed a bad experience. This has been done for damn near a century.
@@YogisCycleService I see the darkside as using a crescent wrench rather than a good quality end wrench. It will work until it doesn't. It looks like my riding season may end today. We've got snow on the way. Stay safe, brother.
Its a CAR tyre. They go on CARS. Why not bin your brake calipers to save on pads too? Probably ok until the unexpected happens at full lean then you need every bit of the available grip a MOTORCYCLE tyre is able to offer. It makes my teeth itch trying to think down to this level of f%#kery.
Your comments about sidewall stiffness are in direct conflict with reality. A motorcycle tire is built so much stiffer than a car tire. You lost me right there 😊
Well... I just installed a "Radar 195/65R16" car tire on my 2003 Goldwing. It was tight but got it in place without any prying tools. Looks good too. Also installed Eco beads for balancing.
How good do the beads balance the tire?
@@akorotney When I installed the tire, I made sure the "yellow" dot was by the valve stem. With that in place and the balancing beads, there is absolutely no wobble or vibration.
I use a michelin tyre on my goldwing so far I done 10000 km I run 30p pressure and it wears even sides and middle
I started with 30 the pushed it up to 40 but I'm considering dropping it back to 30
That's what she said.!!! Love darkside . Will never go back to a bike tire.
Yogi:
Funny thing I've noted all the biggest Naysayers on Darksiding were doctrinaire "in the box thinkers":
0% had tried Darksiding yet were cocksure it would fail !
Yet, those who HAD & were doing it, the vast majority were pleasantly surprised and vowed to keep on Darksiding.
As usual, ignore the "negative Nancies" and keep on riding !
I've got a 145/60R13 Michelin Compact on my 2006 Suzuki Burgman 409 Maxi-Scoot.
Superior ride, handling, comfort & confidence vs the uber short lived MC tire.
I'll never mount a rear MC tire again.
Nope.. does it "work" yes it does. But all tires are made for redundancy. When you dark side you have no redundancy for the beads. It does put you at more of a risk. Also because of how it is built the car tire will make you countersteer more. It will also tend to drag you around. Basically handling compared to a motorcycle tire is shit. Beyond all that if you get into any accident and it is found that you are riding dark side... you will not be covered. Period. So if you want to save a little bit of money at the risk of your ride.. well that is something only you have to weigh.
Thanks so much for posting on the verge myself of going dark side fed up with high MC tire prices no mileage something has to happen soon as I can find someone to mount it which I hope is soon will definitely go that way
Talked to a number of guys while out riding that have tried it and all of them had nothing but good to say . But with a 5000 mile break in and having difficulties finding someone to mount it at this time i am not ready to try it but found this video very interesting thanks Yogi
Yes sir, thanks for watching and commenting!
I used to go through MC tires like changing underwear, so many years ago I bought the famous Harbor Freight tire changer and bolted it to my basement floor. Paid for itself after about 1 year! :-)
Why a 5000 mile break in? All you need is a few hundred miles to wear off the mold release agent...
Thank you for the great video!
Insurance companies only require a DOT approved tire. I have a Pirelli P1 on my Goldwing. Its a run flat, keep mine at 38 psi. 195/ 55-16
I liked being able to see the contact patch. I'd consider trying it. Hope you and your brothers are well. Tell everyone Goat says Merry Christmas!
Will do brother great to see you on here and God bless you and your family this Christmas season
Now that you mention it, I found that interesting too. No matter how far down he wears that tire, there's always going to be rain sipes going off the edge of the tread, deep ones too so that's another thumb up!
Looks like an older style Harley tire . I think it would go good on a bike that has a trailer hitch. Good for conversation..
Nice job!
I’m on my 7th CT on my 2005 Triumph Rocket and 2nd on my backup 2015 Rocket.
I consistently got 25,000 miles out of the GY, Toyo and Rikens and usually swapped them out before long road trips.
I now run $100 Riken Raptors and pushed the last one to 31,000 miles towing a heavy trailer.
It could have gone higher but it had a screw in it (NO leak though) and I figured I got my moneys worth out of it.
As important to the $$ saved, I only had to arrange for ONE tire change on the road instead of FOUR for roundie MC tires.
I’m also Double DarkSide on both bikes running rear Michelin Road 5’s flipped backwards.
That tire drops the front to compensate for the smaller diameter CT on the back regaining cornering agility, costs less than OEM MC tires, and they get 18,000+ miles vs 11,000. No brainer there!!
Great Feedback thank you!
Interesting 🤔
I had a GL1800 goldwing with a run flat tire. Once I had it seated, I usually ran with air fairly low. My final tire was a dunlop 5000SP. Lot of mileage but finally sold the bike due to a failing transmission. I had to go down on my PSI until it began to wear flat across. I think it was around 30-32 psi.
Great video, I also went dark side on my 2019 Road Glide Ultra, I have low miles less than 2 thousand on the darkside, but love it. When you get the tire wet and then park n the garage you see the huge difference in tread width. What I wonder is, the braking distance may be greatluy improved with a wider back tire. Maybe. I do know traction in loose conditions is a lot better.
also, flat repair on the road is possible with car tires, motorcycles tires can be but then need to replace asap
@@highspeeddrag5551 I have plugged motorcycle tires before and kept riding. Check out my video on Mushroom plugs. To each his own however
@@YogisCycleService Yeah, I have too, as long as it's fairly centered.
Wanted thanks EVERYONE for sharing, later I will go dark side. After I wear my Dunlop out.. suppose to get 18k but I just recently put tow-PAC trike on it.. I wasn’t able hold the Goldwing up due health. You guys doing great !!
I'm Darkside on my '02 Goldwing and really like it. been on the same tire for the past 3.5 seasons (about 13k miles) at 41psi and it still has a lot of tread left. Here is my thoughts on it.... More load capacity, Wider contact patch, cheaper than a MC tire. Miles per tire? as long as I get at least what I got out of a regular MC tire I'm well ahead of the game just due to cost. If I get more miles, even better. When I ren an MC tire I used Avon Venom's and got 18k out of them, based on tread i should easily exceed that with the cheap Achillies ATR sport I have on now. People say I'll get more miles out of it if I lower the pressure... I say "so?" 41psi is what I like and if I only get 20k I can buy 3 more of the same tire and only spend what I would have on 1 MC tire. But for me, it's the load rating I like the most. MC tires load rating was 800lbs, CT is 1300lbs..... When I'm loaded and 2 up on a trip, I easily exceed the 800lb weight.
Exactly. Good points
I'm running a Goodyear viva 3. Loving the ride and my wife says its a better ride for her. Think I've put about 1000 miles on it so far. And as far as a twisty road, I drag the floorboards just as I did with the motorcycle tire.
Right on thank you for commenting!!
You know I have seen one guy who swore by running a car tire on the rear of his harley who never had any problems I wish I would have asked him which tire he ran. I have thought about it because car tires are usually radial ply not bias ply there are a lot of good points to radial tires. 15k or more out of a rear tire I would be thrilled. As for inflation I was taught rule of thumb on all tires is if you want to run lower pressure avoid anything under 8psi under what is specified on the sidewall. Could be wrong yet if I remember correctly over in I think Norway running a car tire on the rear of a harley has been popular for a long time. Thanks for showing the contact and wear this is really neat.
Dick Allen years ago ran according to an old magazine I have ran a 155/15 Pirelli tire on a 12 spoke magnesium racing wheel on the rear so now I am really curious about trying this or seeing how possible it would be for me.
Running a Yokohoma Avid Envigor in my Valkyrie. Mostly happy with it. Much longer life than any of the MT's I've run, but still the center is wearing faster than I expected too. I wonder if 40 psi is a touch high and that's doing it? Or may have to do with my heavy wrist? Lol
Bike carves mountain roads like no bodies business with that Car tire mounted. Handles differently, but it definitely handles.
See, that’s great feedback right there. From what I hear people are telling me that’s a touch too high PSI but to me if that’s where you like the ride then who cares what the PSI is and if the center wears a touch faster.
I have found only minor merit in the MT propagandists warnings on dark siding. And if I used the minimum amount of common sense while riding I found no reason to avoid a CT. I found the tire I use on my ‘06 Goldwing, was easy, cheaper, way more mileage, stopped nicer and better handling in most situations. I used Dyna beads for balancing without any issues. I found more wear in the middle probably due to too much air pressure. Finally the added circumference corrected Honda’s pitiful speedometer. I’m all in on a CT. I agree it should be used by a seasoned rider. Further I would not advise putting a CT on every cycle. But for a touring bike….I’d have no problem.
Yes sir. Agreed
I put an Austone Taxi tire on my Valkyrie Interstate. I can't even remember how long ago it was but to my knowledge you can't even get them anymore it's been so long. Probably around 2014. Also don't remember what the mileage was either (I know, nice going!). But I can tell you it's got at LEAST 30K on it so far and it still passes inspection! Only issue is that it's getting kind of worn flat across the tread, really is time to change it anyway, I just haven't really ridden the past 5 years so I don't give a shit. In any case, in almost 250K of motorcycling the past 35 years, I've never had a rear tire last longer than 10K on anything I've owned (usually about 7K). Show me any MT with even 15K on it and I'll show you cords!
I ran the austone on my Fatboy for a bit. It didn’t work well on there so I took it off. You’re right though you can’t get them to my knowledge any more
@@YogisCycleService Actually I'm not crazy for it either. I liked that it was about an inch or so taller because these damn Valyries are geared so low they get worse gas mileage than some cars, which I think is ridiculous. I did pick up about 3 mpg and it wears like iron, but I'm looking forward to something different next time. Will never go back to a MT on a cruiser though!
Thanks for the video.
I've never rode a car tire but been considering it, my bike is a 2010 Electra glide.
The high pitched naysayer voice thing absolutely got me 😂. I was chuckling each time you did it 😂
Edit: My reason for considering darksiding. My 21 Goldwing non-tour rear tire has hit the wear bars at 7k miles and 1 year. These tires are only made by Dunlop, Bridgestone, Shinko, and Metzeler. The Dunlop and Bridgestone tires are nearly THREE HUNDRED DOLLARS each. $300 annually is not something I’m keen on…
I hear ya. I get it and thank you for watching!!
Very cool view Yogi. Thanks!
Thanks my man!! Hope you and the family are doing well. Still praying for you all
Thanks!
Under new guidelines 4/32 is what they are saying is time to change tires. I can sit down with ya and drink a pot of coffee, and have conversation about what the tire is doing. Anyway I was expecting more miles too. My thoughts are change it sooner than later. The view was cool and listened to it in my car and sounded like you were next to me. Need the pipes from Miss Piggy.
Yes, if I have some $$ left over from Christmas I may just go ahead and get a new tire and have it on hand for when the time comes. I too am a bit surprised at how worn down it is at only 15.000 miles.
If you are wearing center more than edge, drop a couple of psi, until you are wearing even.
It isn't the tire's fault, it is your arbitrary inflation psi.
Great video! Do you think the side wall of the car tire is stronger than a motorcycle tire? I guess you would know more when you change out the tire? Which I would love to see your video of you changing it out! I bought a Road King that has the Michelin commanders on it and love the way they ride and run in the rain. Thanks for what you do!
I honestly do not know the answer to that question. I imagine the sidewall of a car tire is thicker but I am not for sure. Thanks for watching and commenting!!
For a better idea, compare the load ratings stamped on the tires. The DS tire probably has 3x the load rating of the MT. My money says the sidewall of this tire will hold more than the center tread of the MT!
What year is your Road King?
06
@7:41 ‘come on now’ is not a lucid counter-interrogatory. the seal and the bead might differ. Data and mono-variable double-blind experimentation may lead to comprehensive and practicable theory.
I've been seriously thinking about doing this with my 2007 Yamaha Road Star. It's a heavy bike and I'm a big guy. Regular motorcycle tires just don't hold up for me. Question is, How do you determine the size car tire to replace the bike tire?
If you go to facebook theres a group called ROLL'N DARKSIDE, lots of good info out there that you can probably find those answers and reviews
Seems to get the tire to flex you just run a little less air. I don't run that much air in my Gladiator tires and that is a 5000 lb truck
On a car, wear in the centre means pressure is too high, but maybe the 41psi you use gives a better, rounder profile? Did you experiment with lower pressures? Lower pressure might mean better wear spread and less breaking in, to get some flex.
My records show I went 21K, then 36K and another 18K before I sold it on my GL1800.
Awesome!!
I RUN 25 PSI TO KEEP MORE RUBBER ON THE PAVEMENT
thinking of putting a car tire rear on my cruiser style yamaha vstar 650 170/80/15 not sure what size car tire i need thanks
I do not know the answer to that question but there are a ton of places to get that answer on the Internet if you search for it I know Facebook has a couple dedicated pages to it
One problem is probably trying to find a 15 inch tire that will fit
A 185/70R15 oughta be about right.
Should be very close in diameter.
How do you know which tire to go with? I currently ride a 2015 Kawasaki Voyager and will be going dark side soon as the rear tire needs replaced. Any recommendations to make the best selection?
Search the web. There are a lot of resources out there including a Facebook page that has a lot of people on it who can give you recommendations because they have the same bike. Rollin darkside I think it’s called
I got a 2015 roadking what size would be good for that. I also ride a 2014 Goldwing f6d and have been running a car tire for years and love it
Interesting write up. My bike is a 2011 Softail. I have just over 63K miles on my bike and about 500 miles on my first car tire, a Michelin 205/50R17, it was $117. The stock tire is 200/55R17. It is odd you mention 20K+ on the Commander II. I've run two sets of commander II. I got about 10K on the first rear tire then only 8K on the second one. The best mileage I've gotten so far is the Dunlop American elite, about 12K. I just pulled off a Commander III with 7K and it is well into the wear bars. I don't do rides with groups, I don't have time. I commute with my bike and average 300 miles a week, so I cam barely getting a year out of a rear tire and sometimes not that much. I don't burn out seldom go over 70-MPH. At 500+ miles my dark side tire feels like it is close to being broken in. If I get 20K on it that would be a 100% improvement. Also I found slow sharp turns to be more manageable with the dark side tire. It will be interesting to see how it goes. I change my own tires so no problem there and I'm running 40 psi. 🙂
I have a 03 fatboy also and the most I have ever gotten out of a tire on it was 12,000. Not sure why my touring bike gets more per tire but it does. The fatboy did not like a car tire on it, I would get a wobble at higher speeds. Seems fine on the ultra.
@@YogisCycleService I don't use a windshield or fairing, 65 is comfortable but I've cruised up to upper 80swith the car tire and it is rock solid.
I’m not trying to be condescending however I do not see any advantages to going dark side. Are there any any advantages to running a car tire over a motorcycle tire? The only advantage I see is cost.
Sure. I have used them for a total of 250,000 miles on various machines. 124,000 on my current Goldwing alone. Besides the cheaper cost is safety. If you use a run-flat design, not only will you never have a sudden deflation such a blow out, but if your tire does get a puncture not only will it not go flat on you but you can wait until you get to your destination to have it fixed. That's what did. Twice. And I _adore_ the smooth ride that I get. So much better than I even thought it would be. I can still corner hard enough to grind the footpegs so that's not a issue either. I was hesitant to try darksiding at one time but was over 20 years ago. Sure no hesitation anymore! 👍
What car tire would replace a 130/80-18 tire? Thank you all :)
I spent way too much for tires on my Roadmaster. Does anyone know of a darkside Indian rider? A friend runs dark rear and MC rear reversed on the front tire and doubled his mileage on the front tire. Oh yeah, he rides a Gold Wing.
I am sure they are out there
Why don't you play some Eddie and the cruisers or something?on tha dok side ohhh yeaheeEah...
Ha, yeah that would have been good but unfortunately copyright would probably have blocked me. Darn algorithms
I would never put a car tire on the back of a Goldwing for the sheer look it looks Goofy
I think they look great. Big fat bike with a big fat tire on it. I think they should all look that way.
I've had one on the back of my GL1800 for over 100,000 miles and love how it rides as well as how good it looks. Especially from the rear. Looks bad ass.
Drop ur air pressure down to 25-27
There a right tool for job
I hear ya
What's best tire and size for 2005 Goldwing
That I don’t know but if you check out a page called rollin darkside on Facebook you can fine more info in it then you will ever need to know.
I use a 195/55/16 on my 2010 GL1800. Works so well.
Put one on the front, too…then tell us how it handles
And why would anyone want to do that??
News flash: A car tire is engineered for cars and an MC tire is made for an MC. Cross mother nature and you could be road pizza
I've been in this subject for awhile and have done a lot of research and absolutely nobody has expressed a bad experience. This has been done for damn near a century.
nay sayer here. :-)
and I respect that, its not for everyone
@@YogisCycleService I see the darkside as using a crescent wrench rather than a good quality end wrench. It will work until it doesn't. It looks like my riding season may end today. We've got snow on the way. Stay safe, brother.
@@HellfighterPreacherman I hear ya and feel free to come on down anytime. We ride year round! Stay safe and happy holidays!!
@@YogisCycleService have a wonderful Christmas!
There's lots of naysayers but I've found that nearly all of them have never done it and that's unrealistic. It appears that of those that go DS,
Its a CAR tyre. They go on CARS. Why not bin your brake calipers to save on pads too?
Probably ok until the unexpected happens at full lean then you need every bit of the available grip a MOTORCYCLE tyre is able to offer.
It makes my teeth itch trying to think down to this level of f%#kery.
nope , ill stick with MC tires
The motorcycle tire makers love people like you! More money for them! 👍
I think motorbike tires is so good i put em on my Camry XLE too so anyway
on what do u base this decision
Your comments about sidewall stiffness are in direct conflict with reality. A motorcycle tire is built so much stiffer than a car tire. You lost me right there 😊
supposed to run them around 28 to 35
Yeah I didn’t like it that low of psi. Didn’t feel right, felt sloppy