Best Tire for Long Distance Touring on Motorcycle Ride? How to get the most miles from your tire~
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- Riding in all types of weather #hardfastandheavy two-up & fully loaded we wanted to check out the rear tire when we finished The Great Escape. We are at Pig Trail Harley-Davidson to see what our American Elite rear tire looks like & we get a different look than most!
To watch our journey The Great Escape - use this link: • The Great Escape
Let me know what you run... how many miles you typically get... what are your tips & tricks for making your tire last! Drop your comments below!
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My wife and I did the weight calculations and knew we weighed too much for the 400 lb carrying capacity on 2 wheels so we bought a trike to be safe. After 18 months on Nutrisystem, we lost 50 lbs, sold the trike and bought a 2021 Road Glide. 😎
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Greetings from Alaska. Thanks for making this video. I learned quite a bit. Great info. I really enjoy your channel. Take care.
I run the commander III front and rear on my SGS. Super happy with them. Every condition they run great in. From concrete to pavement to dirt. I run hard and fast also. I have 15000 miles on them and I bet I get at least 10000 more out of them.
That sounds great
Agreed . Those are a pretty hearty tire. Mine also seem to have a good bit left
Touring or cruiser?
You obviously don't ride in the rain. Worst wet weather tyre I've ever ridden on in 47 years of motorcycling.
Yeah, I'd guess you don't ride in the wet very often. Worst wet weather tire I've ever ridden on and this is well known.
Gross rating on your bike is 1360 lbs. The bike with fluids is 932 lbs. That leaves 428 lb Max carrying capacity. The empty tour pack and mount is 30 lbs. so that leaves you 398 lbs for you, Steph, and all your gear. Bottom line, you overloaded the tire and ran sustained high speeds in super hot weather - and that’s the perfect recipe to destroy a tire. You see it all the time on trailers with blown up tires sitting on the shoulder and the the driver wondering what happened.
Commander 3"s this season. Finally got to the wear indicators on the Commander 2"s. Over 25K on both front and rear. Mostly highway riding at speed limits. 70-75 mph. Always ck the PSI before the ride and between on road trips. Got 5K on the Dunflops before they went wildly out of balance. Switched to Michelin's and never looked back!
Are you serious? 25k miles on a motorcycle tire.
Got my 10k service today and need a new back tire. This was very informative and fun to watch! Thanks for making this for us to see!
Dunlop did a survey of random bikes at Sturgis a few years back. 70% were overloaded, under inflated, or both. That’s embarrassing.
I just replaced my stock tires (Dunlops). I had 18k miles on them. Just put a set of Michelin Commander IIIs on it. I had no issues with the stock tires, but I don’t run heavy much of the time. Went with the Michelin tires only because they were highly recommended.
Great video on tires never have looked at tires like this. Very good info. Keep up the good work.
Great video, thank you! I had 12k miles on my original factory Dunlops and changed them up right before doing a 4K mile round trip. You were going through something similar at the same time and you went with those Dunlop American Elites you just took off…so I do too. Lol. My tires are holding up just fine still but if I were doing the great escape tomorrow I’d be changing those suckers out for something fresh without hesitation. Will be hitting the Ozark’s up a few times this year with a group (will be my first time) maybe I’ll see y’all out there. First rounds on me!
My bike is a 2011 Ultra Limited and I run the Dunlap American Elite when it’s available. I’m running a Continental on the front for now because the Dunlop has been unavoidable but it’s performed well 5k miles. I tried a Michelin commander II a few years ago “commander III” are now available but I’ll never use them or any tire from Michelin. The commander II delaminated on the interstate after 1500 miles almost putting me on the pavement. When I went to Michelin rep about it and after telling him how I was running fast on the interstate. The response was I “over worked” the tire before even looking at said tire. This tire now hangs on my shop wall as a reminder never to buy another Michelin tire.
Great information thanks, I have a 2020 rg standard and run one up most of the time, have 10k on my stock tires and have a pair of Dunlop America elite seating at home for when I need them. Will keep my eyes open for that. Thanks from a old guy on a harley
THANKS ..... that was very informative !!!!
I am on my third set of factory Dunlop d series. Ist set I ran 30k . Second set I had over 20k with plenty of tread left. On a new bike now 16k and they have lots of tread left. Now we typically run 15-20k miles per year. Si I generally change every two and a half to three years. Now I also check my tire pressure every week. 38 to 40 psi front and 40-43 rear. It's Dunlop for me. They are expensive but they last and last for me. First bike was a 17 ultra limited. Currently on a road glide limited and we ride two up frequently.
American elite is all I run on my road glide and my night train.. had great luck.
Good video. And your right we don't think about all those things
I have a 18 RGS. I got 16k from the rear tire, It was a Dunlop American Elite. I switched over to Michelin Commander 3, So far I have approx 10k on it and plenty of life left on it. I pulled the front at 18k cuz I was leaving on a 5k trip which was also a Dunlop, still had some life. So now I have Commander 3 all around. I have the Michelin Scorcher 31's on my 04 Fatboy, been using those for ever.
I run the same tires on my Road King. I got about 12k on the rear. It’s absolutely bald. I haven’t checked it for splitting but I like how the tire performs. I could probably get more miles out of other brands but the performance is why I stick to the Dunlop American Elite. I will say this… I should have gotten more. I had a leaky valve stem. Removed the core and replaced it. But it was too late.
Thanks for making this video. It was a very enjoyable and informative video to watch.
A sobering point that was brought up. At 18:12 "When riding your motorcycle, your life is riding on the size of a credit card." I've always thought of the size of the contact patch, but not in such a way that I could visualize holding in my hand.
I love the Dunlop Tires. They're engineered for our heavy bikes. I'm going to start off the riding season on a set of new tires.
Crow, I owe you one. The date codes on my bike's tires are front, 1417, and Rear is 4816.
I have 15,982 miles on a 2017 Indian Chieftain Limited. I have a new set of tires sitting in my front room ready to replace my old tires, but on the rear, I upgraded from the E3 to the E4. I kept the same American Elite for the front. I have noticed that I cannot squeeze the beads together, even when putting all of my 230 lbs of weight on the sidewalls.
I get approx 25,000-26,000 miles out a set of Dunlop OEM and American Elite on a Ultra Limited. I am running 41/41 p.s.i. and checked often. I will start getting cracks in the rear tire when it wears down and starts to cup. According to the amount of thread depth and the wear mark I could probably get another 3,000+ before the wear mark. This is around 21,500 miles and still has good thread life. Yes I try to get pass the 25,000 mile mark to get my money worth. I have since decided to change out at 21,000-22,000 mile mark to be safe before the cracks start.
First thing I do when buying a new/used HD, remove the Dunlop’s. Michelin or Avon on my bikes.
I had Dunlops on my scoot when I got it and the tires were worn enough at 5k to need replacement... But no splits... I replaced with the Metezler 888 Marathon Ultras.... Best handling tire I have ever run... Made my Road King feel way more nimble in the twisties... I just did a tire change after just about 18k on the 888's .. Still had several k miles of tread but I am heading out on a long ride in the 10 range so put a new set on... I have nothing but good things to say about the Metezler 888 Ultras...
That's great to hear cause I just ordered the 888's switching from Commander III liked them except for the harmonic hum from the front tire at 60 mph
Wow! Thanks for a great Video. I travel gravel roads fairly often. I bet gravel is hard on them. My Michelin Commander II tires had good tread to about the 11 thousand mile mark. I just put on a set of Commander III. Let's see how these do! I like a long life tire because HD charges a ton of money to mount, balance, and install!! Ride safe and I will be looking for more great videos.
Be careful with those Commander IIIs.. the 2s were great but the 3s are lacking, especially on wet roads. If you only ride on dry pavement, you should be fine.. just use extra caution in the rain.
I've gone through 3 sets of tires on my 2017 RG Special
Stock ones I got 22863 miles
American elite I got 25882
Next set of American elite I got 26039
I check pressure often and I park the bile on wood not cement
Metzler cruise tech i have ran it on both my bikes fixing to pull my dunlops off my VTX 1800 and replace with Metzler cruise tech. they hold up very well . Im always having to put a few pounds of air in my rear dunlop.
Jeepers!!! Never seen that in any tire before. If I was a guessing man, I'd say you tan over a bunch of sharp rocks. I got 23K miles on my Yamaha cruiser, an 06 Stratoliner, running DAE's. I just replaced it with another DAE. Love it. On my two Harleys, I run Michelin Commander II's. 22K miles so far on my Dyna. Love them.
I love American Elites I ride a 2012 Electra Glide I find they are great tires all around. I do change them when they start to cup. I have had 4 sets in 7 years( I did have to replace two tires because of nails.)
As you ride hard and heavy consider the Conti Road Attack . My experience with them is extensive hiway some race speed exceding 200 on anothe heavy bike in the Hayabusa. New tires lasted full trip San Antonio to sturgis and back heavy loaded
Bridgestone battle crusier H50 my wife and me weigh close to 500 pounds plus gear and I have put 10000 miles and still looked really good and lots of tread I have traded in bike but when it's tire time I will go with them again
I currently run the stock Dunlop.
10,000 miles on it and I have the same kind of cracking on it. Also was running heavy on long trips.
I am running the Bridgestone Battle cruise and really like them so far
Michelin commander 2 , touring bike 15000 miles and satisfied with alll around handling and wear. Never have I seen a tire wear with all those splits. I do keep up with the tire pressure.
I like the Metzeler 888 marathon ultra.
Thanks for the video.
I just put these on my Electra glide classic they were a recomendation
Michelin commander III is the best I’ve found been running them for years and no complaints
On my Harley I run Michelin Commander 3s (16,000 miles and on my Goldwing the Dunlop Elite 4s, (15,000 miles)
Thanks, I was wondering about tiers, I go through two rear tires a year, easily.
Had same issue with stock dunlop and the dunlop your changing out. Went with the michelin tires and had no splitting issues wiith the michelin brand touring tires.
Wow! That's a scary looking tire. I'm a 300lb man and I pack heavy. I've gotten 20k out of a couple of sets of American Elites and was really happy with them. I'm crazy about my air pressure. I check it every morning. I run 38 front and 42 rear and I wear out tires, but have never had a crack or bad cupping. Similar experience with Commander IIs and IIIs. Your milage may vary.
I run Dunlop Elite 4s on my Gold Wing. My wife and I ride two-up 99% of the time. She doesn't have her own bike, and I seldom ride alone. So far, the Elite 4 tires have been great, but I'll be more cognizant of this when I inspect my tires as I get more miles on them.
So far the Dunlap has had been the longest mileage tire that I have run. I learned years ago to keep the pressure up when loaded and check it often. 👍
Dunlap? Wtf is a dunlap XD hahaha
Probably the longest lasting is due to it being your only experience. Commander’s routinely get thousands of more miles, without being hard as a brick new.
@@freebehindbars8654 sorry fool, ran them all
Very informative video... Thank You...
Glad it was helpful!
Dunlop Elite 4 50th Anniversary Goldwing. Changed out the Elite 3 none of those issues. 17 Chieftain Limited Stage 3 Dunlop Elite 3. 9000 miles rear tires 50 percent worn out and not checking or cracking. I drive the crap out of my bikes. Hard acceleration and turning. 😊
1998 Heritage Softail Classic setup for solo rider weighing 210 lbs and 20 lbs luggage. Dunlop American Elites front/back wide whitewalls. First set April 2019 lasted 14k miles. Second set April 2021 lasted 11k miles. Third set April 2023-present 3k miles and still rolling. Average Speed 70mph. Temp Range 55f to 95f. Air Pressure 39-40 psi. Comment: I give these tires an overall rating on dry surface 9.5/10. Under wet conditions 9.0/10. Offroad: Not Happening...
I have a 2017 BreakOut. Solo rider. I use Cobra Chromes up front and American Elites in the rear. I currently have 13k miles on both. I have the front at 36psi and rear at 38psi. I ride from 40° to 100° this yr. I have about 15lbs of weight in my swingarm bag and I weigh 203lbs. The tires are about 1/4 worn. I'm hoping to get 18k on both before winter hits. The Cobra Chrome is softer than the American Elite but the front tire usually lasts longer than rear drive tires. So hoping to get about equil mileage. Both fantastic in the rain. I had Michelin Cammander 2s on and they were terrible in the rain.
I run the stock OEM Dunlops on my 2018 FLTRU, usually get 20,000kms(12,000 miles on the front) best about 15,000kms (9,300 miles on the back) , keep air pressures as per 38-40psi. Keep my weights within specs and I weigh 200lbs. I run fast but not abusive, it regularly gets above 80 degrees in summer and often it the 90' s July and August.
Tried Commander 2's one cycle but they fell off a lot after about 5,000 miles and were not as grippy. Nothing like good rubber!
Bridgestone Battlax - because other tires do not grip in the wet or grip when you do an emergency stop.
I run American Elites on my 04 Heritage. This last set I put 6k on them. Front tire came up with with a breakage from the center to the side wall. The breakage looked like I ran over barbed wire, about six or eight inches long. slotted looking holes with fine rubber in-between. Think I would have been aware running over such a thing, especially holes up the side of the tire would make you think it happened during a turn leaning into it. Never noticed running over debris. Checked the hole depth and several of them were as deep as the tread. Without Dunlop taking the tire in for analysis I'm assuming it's a default in the tire.
I've never gotten good mileage out of dunlops my last dunlop on the rear of my FLHX lasted 9600 miles, was down to the ware bar and cupped very bad. I have been running Avon's on my 05 Softail for years very good tire, I will be replacing the dunlops on my street glide with Avon's
I run the Metzeler Cruisetec on my Electra Glide Ultra Classic. It's not the best for mileage but in proformance it's light-years ahead of the others I have used.(commanders & elites)
Couldn’t agree more! they make a bagger handle like awesome
I don't know man I run those, I just went to the garage to check mine after seeing this video cause it freaked me out. I did most of the World Record Poker Run with ya'll and rode a lot before and after. Not as much weight as guys cuase I ride mostly solo but have done over 12-14k miles on my tires since last July, still have fair amount of tread. Not a single crack/split.. however I do have cupping, which I'm not surprised because I don't check my pressure as much as I should. I'll have to check my old bike I sold to a friend that has those tires also (second set I ran on it) that are a couple years older so see if they are doing it.
All my dunlops did the splitton that's why I went with michelin's commander threes
Randy, how are the commander 3’s? I am running American elites now in Florida and absolutely love the traction. Both dry and especially wet. Mine are just starting to cup on the front tire with right at 12,000 miles. Next set I get will most likely be Michelins if they are good in the rain
Love the humour :)
What did you pay for the front and rear tire and did you ever ask to put the 90 degree valve stems in so it’s much easier to check the pressure
We started pulling a trailer so we can keep more weight on the trailer you can carry more items
Hi you might due a short film on what weight you can run on your bike and stay with in the limit. See what you leave behind. Weigh all your stuff fully dressed. Might surprise you😮. Happy riding. 🎅🏼🏍🇺🇸
I was about to get a set of these for my VTX1800R :\ I think maybe I'll skip, that bike is well over 700+lbs, and over 1k with us on it, add some gear and it's getting close to a rolling 1200lbs or more. I do inspect my tires after every 500-1k miles, but it's easy to miss that hard too see stuff that's not a cut, cup, or bubble. It comes down to confidence, and that's the rubber that separates you from the pavement, you shouldn't have any doubt your tires can perform, or even over perform if needed. I'm glad you all were able to swap these out without incident, they look a little scary. Arrive alive!
Ran Commander 3's. 17k miles on rear, currently 22k on Front. Running car tire on rear now. We are not small people. And that car tire has the weight and traction that a touring bike should have.
I run the elites on my dyna. And for a 16" rear they don't make a tire rated over 700 lbs. I get about 8k out of an elite and I run hard and fast sometimes 2 up. Haven't had one split just get slick
I run an elite now ... And I'm satisfied ... But my next tire I'll go back to a commander III
I had the same issue with the stock Dunlop tires on my 2014 Ultra Limited. Will never run Dunlop again. I'm running Michelin Commander II's now with 15,000 miles on them and still got plenty of tread left.
I read Dunlops description on the American Elite. They have a dual compound so I wonder if the softer cornering tread is cupped maybe because of that. I run a Dunlop D402...it's about $20 less cost, but based on your 12,000 mile's. I get way less mileage than you at about 7,000 mile's SOLO. But I don't seem to get cupping because maybe the D402 has only one compound in the center and the sides. I dunno. Maybe I will try a Elite next ture...I'm always looking for the cheapest tire Dunlop makes. I wonder too if you could air it up a bit more...you can't complain with 12000 miles but with fully loaded two up, you wanna be fully inflated. On lower pressure, the rubber itself flexes more so more heat especially off the center where your cupping is most pronounced. Just my thoughts I'm no expert.
I have a 2013 Road Glide I run a Metzler 888 never had any problems with it get about 10 to 12 thousand miles
I have the Dunlap tires that came with the bike. I have 15,000 miles on them and I have at least 5,000 more miles to get on them. 20,000 miles is what I expect with these. Of course I am only 2 up half the time.
I run kenda challengers on most my lighter bikes as for heavy touring kenda Kruz tires reason being they last a long while and get phenominal grip for the money
I’ve run four brands of tires on two heavy touring bikes: a Kawasaki Voyager XII and my current BMW K1200LT. I’ve had four tires fail: 1 Dunlop on the Kawasaki and 3 Metzelers on the BMW, one rear and two fronts. I ran Michelins on the Kawasaki in addition to Dunlops and never had a Michelin fail. I now run Bridgestones on the BMW and have yet to have a Bridgestone fail. My preferred tire brand is Michelin, but Michelin doesn’t make a rear tire with the right size and load/speed range for my BMW.
I had stock Dunlap hated them ran Metzler me888 last season i liked them got Metzler cruise tech this season i really like them as well
oh yeah that tire has been run cooking hot
Look into centramatic wheel balancers they're amazing takes the cupping away
You think those will hold up good in the arizona heat or do u recommend so.ething different
So far my favorite tire I've ever run is the avon cobra chromes
Chromes up front and American Elites in the rear for me! Perfect combo. I have 13k miles on both and both are about 1/4 way worn.
I don't buy tires for mileage. I buy them for handling and performance. I like Metzler over Dunlop myself, although my last set of Metzlers is 18 months old and the front tire I just found a crack on the sidewall the entire circumference of the tire on the high side. Starting to wonder if anything is any good anymore
I’ve hear a lot about the Michelin Commander III lately. Give these a shot.
Michilen Commander 3. I got 25k out of my last Commander 2s
I run them as well,mine usually hold up,wear fast in the high heat climates down south,and not so much up here in MN...they pricy as fook...but I'll pay for the piece of mind...but if I seen that on my tires(cracks and cupping) I find another brand...
I know this message is late but, My 19 RG only has 8k and I have the same issue with the stock Dunlop HD rear tire. I did contact Dunlop and they are working with me as this seems to be an issue with maybe a bad batch that were made and sent to HD to install on the new bikes.
Me and bro inlaw has 2013 ultra limited anniversary we both had about 10 thousand on tires his American elites mine commander 2s, we rode from Birmingham AL to New Mexico and back his rear tire had to be replaced because of splits I got 22 thousand from mine.
I've watched a couple videos of yours on tires now! Shit the bed man your crazy running them shits. try some perelli night dragons next time! Keep safe this tire game is not worth the risk! Stay Ornery!
Thanks for posting. I have the Africa twin 2022. Need a Quiet mostly street tire Any recommendations?
I have Motoz for off road
Continentals.... check them out.
Commander 3 on my roadgide front and rear wouldn't use any thing else
I had the same issue on two American Elite tires too. I ride the same as you, but I can almost guarantee you it isn’t the weight of the bike causing it. I’d do solo trips for 6,000 miles and the tire would start splitting! I also did a video on this tire doing this. I stick to Shinko 777HD, softer compound and only get about 7-8k on the rear. Still cheaper and more safer than these Dunlop American Elites. I’ve loaded the bike with the same weight as on a American Elite....and it never splits. Great video man!
Which is better? The D407 or the American Elite?
I’ve heard of Dunlop, but Dunlap must be a new brand. 😂
Every Dunlop tire I have run splits , cracks open! I’m trying to find a better tire . I just went to Michelin website and 98% of the people are complaining about vibration hum and wobble from the Michelin commander 3
I had the same thing happen to our tire also. Will not run these tires again. We now run commander III been very happy with these.
That is good to hear!! Thank you for sharing
All things considered (How you ride, how much you ride at a time, where you ride, the load you are always carrying) I would have thought they were going to be MUCH WORSE than what it was...I thought for sure we were going to see it worn through to the belts...if it was me, I would have been SUPER HAPPY at what you saw....all things considered. Great video!!
Do you change wheel bearing at every tire change?
I hope to meet yall someday.
I hope Dunlop is aware and fixing this. I want American made tires on my bike but I don’t want to need to go elsewhere for tires.
Most riders are overweight on HD touring bikes lol or bulky anyway.
Unloaded, 37-38 1-up on a road king makes sense, 40+ loaded. But the Big boys w 3 bags and over loaded I'd run 43+. Set them pressures cold. On my long-winded road trips I know every tire condition and pressure every morning before we load out... I run C2's and C3's with no issues. I never replace with H-D branded tires, all major brands make better touring tires including Dunlop.
I only get 8000 to 9000 went to Michelin I get 14000 and change it because I was going on a trip, still a little I tread left
A free tire is the best tire! 🤘⚡️🤘✨✨✨✨
Probably should check your tires more often if u didn’t notice that before changing the tires. I check mine at least once a week.
That doesn't look normal to me. I ride a 2018 FLTRU, (Industrial Grey) mostly just me with maybe 100lbs of gear, I'm 202 libs. I live in an area that gets 80-100 degrees in the summer. I'm back to running the original Dunlops and must say I like them , they perfrom well in all condtions, wet and dry. I did try a set of Commander 2's and got much better mileage but they were no where near as good in the rain. I also run hard, in the twisties scrapping the boards often. I do next to nill riding on the dirt or gravel. So after 74,000kms on the bike I 've learned that even 1 lb difference in air pressure can make a big difference, especially if your laying down a 500+ day as I cupped a set of tires pretty bad by getting lazy and not checking tire pressures. So on the original Dunlops I get about 14-16,000kms on the back and 18-20,000 kms on the front (8,000 to 10,000 miles on the back)...(11,000 to 12,500 on the front). Amazes me some people say theu get 20,000 miles on a rear tire? Oh I also live in the mountains of BC Canada, weather can change in a hurry so I like an all round sticky tire. Might try the elites next set see if they work as well in the wet. I check my air pressure now everyday. Nothing like having good rubber!
Geez. Got my first Harley this March (2010 Road King). Put 12,000 miles on it. Harley dealer put a new rear Dunlop 402 whitewall. I got 7500 miles and it’s shot. I don’t ride hard or fast. I expected more.
Michelin Road 6 GT Pro. If the tire cracked from the inside out wouldn't it lose air? No motorcycle tire lasts 30 thousand miles
And that is exactly why I don’t like Dunlops…..Metzler Cruistec is what I’ve been using….
I run dunlop next tire I run will be Michelin 2 or Michelin 3
T.O.O., I saw this video a year ago and gotta tell you-as an auto mechanic-dont skimp on your tires! 🏍️👍😁🐻Doug
Metzler cruztec Get about 10 to 12,000 on the front
OK what's the song name for the intro
Been using Dunlop American Elite for years, I can get approx 24k miles on it depending how I ride. I wouldn't buy anything else.
MayPop for sure. MayPops and Baldinis are different.