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These inexpensive tires will give you an advantage over stubborn inflation. They offer just as much grip and do it for far fewer dollars.
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Shinko SR999: frt9.co/bmbm40
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I never get "tired" of F9 videos!
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😂😂
Somebody had to say it!
Oof. ~RF9
Get outta here
I go through a set of rubber about once a year and these videos are almost timed perfectly when im on the hunt for more. Your yearly analysis Hasn't failed me yet. Thank you for making my buying easier and cheaper!
Same my tire has about a 1000 miles left before wear marks hit, F9 timed this perfectly for me
what rubber are we talking about?
You don't ride enough. Ride more, life better.
What is the timing of Ryan's videos compared to the sales on tires? That's important, too. (squeak, squeak, squeak)
I couldn't agree more! These videos have been a lifesaver when it comes to timing my tire purchases. It's like they have a sixth sense for when I'm in need. The yearly analysis they provide is spot on, and it has definitely made my buying experience easier and more budget-friendly 🙌
Just started looking for cheap new tires today and, lo and behold, a FortNine video about just that. Thanks Ryan!
How this is posted 1day ago
@@gchyll2 *magic*
A one day ago post in a one minute ago video?
@@gchyll2 Its obvious, Ryan knew they were looking for tires because he's telepathic, so he gave them special access to the video a day early.
Mr shopping tires
One of the things I love about this channel is that you're not afraid to just reach a decisive conclusion. Even if I disagree with it, it's still super refreshing, and useful, to actually know where you stand. Far too many product reviews these days just end in "what's best... well that's just up to you!" which is so completely inane. We're looking to reviews because we can't afford the money and time to try every option out there. That's why we're here! We need informed opinions!
Couldn't have said it better if I tried - take a stand and name your reasons. How hard is that?
I love how you added de mate to reference Argentina's massive inflation. As an Argentine, I approve. 🇦🇷🇨🇦
yes you can always find the Argentinean and the Uruguayan in a crowd of people, they are the ones with the mate in one hand and a thermos under their arms
@@rickute1458 don't forget us Brazilians, I was about to ask why is there a chimas in the desk... but Nicolas is right..
Also, don't worry Nicolas, inflation is about to blow here too. All of us will soon join and dance with Venezuelans, all as a great unified failure.
@@ITBlanka It´s not the first time, though. HIs cuia has appeared before in another videos.
@@ITBlankaDon't forget America.... we're sliding down fast, too. We'll all be eating beans here soon if we're lucky enough to be able to afford beans
@@Hesitance00 yes, I forgot that.
I've run the Dunlop Sportmax Mutant on a DRZ-400SM for years and it is amazing. It works in all conditions, even heavy rains. The grip is great, it is predictable and fairly durable. The rear won't last as long as the newer Mutant Ryan showed, but it does quite well. They're also cheaper than the new version. It has more square tread, like a flat track tire. That is probably where the name came from as it is a mix between a Supermoto and Flat Track tire for the road.
If you have a light bike without ABS and traction control, the Sportmax Mutant might be a better option as the rear is designed to do the work. The new one relies on computers to keep the rear in check, so it might not be the greatest on an older bike.
I've been looking for some time at the dunlop trailmax meridian. They are fairly close to the Mutant.. only that the rear stays a bit better in check. And it actually has sizes that fit my bike😂
@@gorkzop The width is definitely an issue with the Sportmax and the Mutant, for a DRZ it is fine as you really don't want to go over 150 (for clearance). My guess is the original Sportmax Mutant doesn't work on heavy bikes and the Mutant was made to fill that gap.
I haven't used the Trailmax yet, looks like a good tire. One of my main concerns is performance in the rain as I ride all year and we get a lot of heavy rains. I wonder how the Trailmax will fare. If they're available where I live, I will give them a try next time.
The Trailmax Mission looks like a fun dual sport tire (it came up when looking for the Meridian). Quite blocky but not too extreme.
I've used Mutants too (the old version) until I discovered the Maxxis Presa M6118 & 9. Those were the real deal, even better than the Mutants. Sadly discontinued a few years ago, though.
Moving away from the "rain" type, I found Mitas SportForce+ to be a wonderful and cheap tyre. Only used it on the rear (with a Mutant front), but it gave me a lot of confidence despite the race-y look, even on a somewhat light bike like the DRZ. Warms up better than a Mutant, sticks and hardly ever moves. Lasts quite a bit, too, surprisingly. Wide-ass tyre, though. I could pull off 160 on the Maxxis because they were more like 150s, but the Mitas is laaaarge - go 150 on the DRZ. Anyway, I'd have given it a second run with my eyes closed, but I decided to try Road5's next on the sheer amount of recs they got.
sweet! How are they off road?
@@machupikachu1085 Never tried them off-road, sorry. From what I've read on forums, it does reasonably well on fire roads and hard packed dirt, but the tread is too small to grip loose surfaces.
The Dunlop Mutants are EXACTLY as you described.
I rode from Louisiana to Colorado and back with them on my 2018 Honda NC750X DCT.
It was 100 degrees F on the stretch across Texas on the way up.
The tires handled all of the 12,000 foot passes.
And on the ride home, I was in a non-stop torrential downpour from Dallas to Lake Charles, Louisiana and these tires NEVER slipped or hydroplaned.
They replaced Michelin Pilot Road 6 tires.
I will never put another tire on my bike as long as these are in production.
Great job, as usual.
How do they compare to the road 6 ?
I was thinking "hey, un mate..." then I was like "HEY, UN MATE!". I kinda love more this channel every day.
Yeah thought the same specially considering his talking about inflation...great easter egg
I'd love to know @Ryanf9's inspiration for having mate in his video! 👍👍
I'm almost 29 and would like to say I appreciate Ryan for teaching us how to ride and physics while maintaining humour and entertaining us for years....❤
How is your age relevant here?
@@brajlecz9485because he's almost 29!
@@brajlecz9485 well because he's 29??
Physics with a half pound brain.
Agreed, I’ve been riding on Dunlop Mutants for the last couple of years and I’d be hard pressed to think of a tyre that inspires more confidence. Truly a special bit of rubber.
I should get me some 😂
How long do they last on pavement? I like the way they're presented and I mostly ride my adventure bike on long highway or generally paved routes with some fire track or mountain "paved" gravel. But the main kilometers I put on it would be going in a straight line through Spain or France.
Another shout out here for the Mutants, best tyres I've ever had. 😎
What type of bike?
@@groundskeeperwille would you recommend for a supersport 600cc?
For the longest time I have been watching Channels praise and rank class leading rubber but I've always wanted a list to show off what cheap tyres can do. Cheers F9 for putting this one out ❤
OMG FINALLY A MAJOR CHANNEL GIVING THE MUTANT SOME LOVE!!!!!
I have been preaching its glory since its release thank you so much for covering them Ryan! ❤️
This is the only motorcycle channel that I have sticked with for a long time. Absolutely great content. Kudos to the whole team behind this channel.
Have you checked out ‘Born a Goon?’
I'm not even a rider but I really like this channel. Learning about the safety improvements and affordability makes me reconsider it being too unsafe to trust myself.
It's light-hearted, detailed and high quality. The other biker channels I fell off from got too political or preachy.
*>Sticked with*
Kenda 784 is great in warm dry weather. Good traction and long lasting. When the weather cooled down in the pacific north west and it started raining that was the single most terrifying piece of equipment I ever had. Slowing down on wet pavement coming to a red light was like riding on an ice skating ring. I always thought rubber is rubber. I was so wrong.
But wet is always wet.
[I live there too.]
I personally have had terrible experience in the wet with Kendas as well. Won't touch the brand for that reason as I ride in all weather.
I had a 45mph low-side crash on my 1190 because of those trash tires. They are downright dangerous on wet roads.
@Trevor Bos haha I came to comment about using kendas on my KLR and see someone else has.🤣. like Ryan says the cheapest thing on a KLR is the rider.. with my kendas in the wet on pavement, I can drift in second gear on my KLR, truly terrifying, so I agree, not for wet weather!! I could see people's jaw dropping when I'm coming sideways down the road at 10mph🤣🤣🤣
Kinda surprised the Kenda's got recommended, horrible tire. Ive been running the IRC TR8 and they stick like glue on and off the pavement.
What's with the mate? perfect continuity with it apart from one shot where you explain self heating tyres 🙂
I've used Shinko tires for 10 years and had nothing but very satisfied experiences. Good grip, wear, and cost.
probably my next rear tire on my ninja 250 price is right
Ryan…this brought back fond memories…of our 1987 Toyota Van LE aka the geek mobile. We loved that thing even though it looked like a toaster. Four cylinder motor behind the front seats, five speed manual and a seating position that gave new meaning to cab forward. It never failed that when someone new was in the passenger seat their foot inevitably stomped the imaginary brake whenever parking lot maneuvering was required. The rear captain’s chairs were great because they swivelled all the way around to make an instant living/games room for four that you could enjoy on those rainy camping days when a fire wasn’t an option. Since this was a tire video I’ll end on the geek mobile’s Achilles heel…Traction…the thing must have had a 90/10 f/r weight distribution and even with good tires and lots of sandbags in the back a half inch of snow meant forward progress was debatable…and any ice on the road meant a doughnut was forthcoming. The kids even had a song they’d sing…”here we go round the dizzy machine…” Ok..maybe…MAYBE…they made the song up in an empty mall parking lot after a snowstorm…and maybe there was a Timmies run and hot chocolates involved…and maybe my wife was singing and giggling along with them while friction limits were explored.
Whatever…I hope you’re still going strong wherever you are now Geek. You had character.
Appreciate the mention of Shinko here. Having been very disappointed in HD Dunlops, I put Shinko SR777 tires on my Sportster 1200 Custom, at half the price, and they are the best tires I've ever had by far.
Absolute GOAT tyre in my opinion. I got a brand new set for 280 bucks mounted and balanced. They have grip, wet performance, comfort, mileage, it's amazing.
I’ve only ran shinkos on my Softail slim and 50k miles later I’ve only used that brand
Been running Shinkos for years on numerous bikes. Last summer put the 890 radial journey on my Victory Cross Country, and as in the past it works great. May not get the best milage but they have been good enough. Have had great experiences with the 777 in the past also, will look into this 999.
I cant say enough how awesome this channel is! Well done guys!
Perhaps the best channel out there - plenty of logic involved too.
One thing on on your motorcycle that you should never cheap-out on is the one part that keeps you undead.... tires!
I’ve had the Dunlop Mutants on for a couple years, and i love them. Great in wet weather, great in cold weather, great in just about everything I’ve taken them on.
I wonder how they would work/ last on my old heavy ST1100❓🤔
So many new videos! Thank you Ryan and the production team!! 🙏
I love the best of *insert year* videos. Always good to get a professionals opinion
Been running Shinkos on my bikes for years and love them, from scooter sizes to dual sport and street tires. Have never had to have a set balanced, dead smooth up to 100mph. Switched it up a couple years ago and bought a nice set of Michelins and had a heck of a time getting them to balance and was just overall instant regret. Went back to my Shinkos.
YES!!! He didn't talk about my favorites tires so the cheap price will remain!
Spill the beans! ~RF9
I love this channel so much its insane only channel i have notifications on for
Finally some quality info on the Mutant! Thank you!
Great video as usual. For sportbikes notably absent from this comparison is the Continental Sport Attack range. These were OE on the S1000RR a few years ago and remain a great economic alternative to tires like the Pirelli Supercorsa at about half the cost.
I use them on all my bikes by choice, nothing to do with saving money. They are great in the dry, the rain and inspire confidence when pushing it. Just a great tyre.
Is it just me or does this guy always post a video when you just need it
Thank you, most informative. . And always entertaining 👍👍
Your delivery and the way you articulate information is second to none. Thank you from a two wheelie junkie!
I've got a set of the Dunlop Mutants on a Versys 650. They grip well on road, in rain, hot or cold and do fairly well on a fire road or riding the kids around the yard in grassy conditions. I've got somewhere between 2000-3000 on my current set and the tread still looks good for atleast two to three times that mileage. They've always had a confident feel on the edge of the tire.
How does your front wear? I have same bike with same tires but the front mid side block have a scalloped wear pattern and the center strip is perfect. I get 5k miles from the back and 6k from the front.
What! A Mate on your desk! Hell yeah! Argentina! 🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
Great stuff, looking forward to the next video
Production keeps getting better. Love it
Video Idea:
Adjusting the suspension of bikes. Most riders won't touch their suspension in their entire time of owning the bike, not knowing how much they could improve it with minor tweaks
My Ducati was very stiff from the factory and works so much better on the road when I adjusted the suspension to my weight and riding style
Just mounted a set of Dunlop trailmax missions on my ktm 690. Got “tired” of replacing the rear knobby tire every couple thousand miles so I decided to go with a 50/50 tire this time. So much better on the road. The bike feels almost like a supermoto on the road and since I don’t get off-road nearly as often as I’d like I’m cool with that. $330 for the set
Best start to the weekend!
Simply genius.
Perfectly explained.
Safe, happy travels 👍
I'm totally sold on Shinko tires. I doubted them at first but the 705 sold me!
I'm a million miler and have always run 'cheap' tires. Shinko, Shins, Kenda, have never let me down.
Found the Mutant last year and put it on my Hornet and I loved the aesthetic and grip. Excellent tires 🙏
Having the Road 6 on my primary motorcycle, I think they are incredible! Sooo hearing better, has all my senses tingling. My adv is up for a tire change and I'll try these out!
Put Mutants on my Z900RS Cafe about 4000 miles ago. Incredible upgrade. Wet traction is unbeatable. Gravel is wicked away easily. Super stable in lean. And they look aggressive af on the bike. Will definitely buy again. Glad to see them getting some proper coverage
Love the pfp dude
How's the tread life looking with those on the cafe?
Still use dunlop spormax 300s on all my bikes, great sport touring tyres
Thanks for the video !
🧉 Cheers from 🇨🇦
Thank you for all the useful information and the laughs as well. You make great TH-cam videos!
Excellent video Ryan! These budget brands are really stepping up their game. I've had great results with Shinko and Kenda on electric unicycles
I really wanted to hate on Shinko tires, until I ran a set of their 700 series dual sports on my KLR 650 and realized they handle just as good as Sahara enduro 3's. And they last longer.
If you mentioned your bikes so many times in this video, how about a standalone video showing us your full collection? I'm sure people will love it
These videos make me feel good. Perfect blend of humour, information, entertainment! The writing is brilliant and delivery is exceptional. They just keep getting better!
I am currently loving the Mutants on my 03 Tuono. My work commute route is curvy 2 lane with morning dew and tree debris scattered here and there. Have never felt a need for more traction, touch wood. Bonus, they look super rad.
nice Mate
I've got dunlop gpr300 tires on my drz400sm. The pair only cost $200, and I'm pretty impressed with them. I know they may not be the best, but for the cost they'll let you push pretty hard without feeling unsafe.
Agreed. These are the true budget performance tire. I think tires are worth the spend, but if you need a set for cheap, GPR-300 are a great choice.
Been waiting for this :)
Great video, super informative. Thank you!
Nice to see some feedback on the Dunlop Mutants. Reviews on them are scarce and so I've been hesitant to consider them as a new set for my 701. Definitely will look at them more now. Thanks Ryan.
For anyone in Europe mitas tyres are as good as the big brands for a fraction of the price. The EO series are savage for Enduro bikes and the touring force / sportforce are as good as michellion roads
They definitely are NOT as good as Michelin Road 6s
I have a pair of Mitas on my KTM 1290 SAS and not a big fan of the front tyre. Want to change soon.
Wow, this is my first time on your channel, and your script-writing and delivery are fantastic! I haven't taken my bike out in years, but Ill be sticking around to watch your content. Cheers!
Wow well done!!!! And the Ad... Well done. I almost didnt notice!
Sweet, I’m headed out to buy some tires!!
Oh wait, I don’t currently own a motorcycle…
Of course this video drops RIGHT after I bought and mounted a new tire 😭
So good. Very helpful!
I love the Dunlop Mutant. Ive been using them on my 21 Tuono V4 with no issues wet or dry. Road from Florida to North Carolina and back..., the Tail of the Dragon and surrounding roads. Blood Mountain GA in the rain. Excellent tire for spirited riding in any weather except snow and ice. Even works ok on light dirt and gravel trails.
The pirelli angel st is inexpensive, long lasting and preforms great. Ive been using them for years on my road bikes.
How are they in the rain?
@tvr419 pretty good. I try not to ride in the rain often, but every time I've been caught in a shower, they have done well.
The one tire type I miss, is the touring/sport mix, to be fitted on sportsbikes that aren't intended for track use, but still enjoy a good twisty road and nifty handling.
While a regular road/touring tire is great for mileage and less than stellar weather conditions, they don't exactly complement a sportsbike's natural desire to lean over and shift direction at any speed. And while typical sport tires are great for just that, and offer confidence inspiring levels of grip when the pavement is hot enough to boil eggs, they tend to bring your bike in for a tire change at the shop roughly twice the pace your wallet is comfortable with.
"Now listen up you picky lad" -you might say, "there is a segment called sport touring tires for just that purpose!", to which I agree, but I also don't particularly enjoy spending a good 50% more on a set of tires that try to have it both ways while not excelling at either one.
So my question stands. Is there an actual sport touring tire that is affordable, offers 90-95% of the performance you realistically would enjoy on public roads, while not wearing itself to pieces after two trips around the block..
Not sure on durability, but a few years ago I had some Dunlop GPR300 tires put on my bike. Dirt cheap, but they were absolutely fantastic! Really loved their performance, especially compared to the old stock tires that were still on the bike. I find them to be of great value for the price. For just street duty, they are excellent!! (and don't kill your wallet in the process)
@@Gofr5 yup put some on my cbr300 and the grip is ridiculous for how cheap they are
That's what the Mutant is. They're basically Roadsmart IV's that are better on dirt with 10% less tread life for less money
Not sure if you can get it in the size you need but the Bridgestone BT46 is a inexpensive tyre that works for track riding and touring no problem. As long as you're not going knee down fast you're fine.
It would seem that’s what he recommended the Mutant for 🤔
I love every single one of your vids👍 Still remember watching them as a kid
You make everything interesting. Thank you
Got some time before my road 5s are done, but hearing there's a cheaper and better option to the road 6 has me at peak interest. My experience with Dunflops in the past has been less than stellar. So much that I swore off buying anything from them and became a Michelin groupie. But maybe it's time to give another look to Dunlop
💚 "Dunflops". Word!
I remember when Shinko came out, their tires were bad enough that local dealers would NOT mount them. Due to risk of being sued if the tire let go. True story.
Yokohama Motorcycle tires were Shinko.
I remember when Shinko motorcycle tires came out too. They had bought Yokohama's motorcycle tire division, equipment and all. Yokohama even was contractually obligated to provide technical support and training for two years so that Shinko (already a longstanding tire manufacturer) could retain the quality that Yokohama had developed. The dealers that refused to sell or mount Shinikos did so out of a combination of ignorance and prejudice.
I'm not buying cheap tires for a vehicle that has the contact patch size of 2 goose eggs. That's just me tho.
@@Scott-sb1xi - I"m not interested in cheap tires on any vehicle, but I do appreciate inexpensive tires on all vehicles. The difference is value. A cheap tire can get you killed. An inexpensive tire offers good performance at a lower price, which is value.
@@kmoecub - I think the initial Shinko bashing by dealers was more motivated by profit than concern of litigation or customer safety. Shinko tires were less expensive, and the dealers didn't make as much on markup. If they refused to carry Shinkos in an attempt to force customers to buy their Michelin tires, customers would buy Shinko tires online and take them to the dealer to have them mounted, paying only the labor and the online seller got the markup.
Informative, I've always been a fan of shinko😊
A perfect Blend of Knowledge and Humor makes for a video that keeps you interested.. !!! as always.. good job.
I don't have a motorcycle, so I don't need a motorcycle tire. Yet here I am , watching another great FortNine video by Ryan giving me all the info I need for replacement sets of tires for the various types of bikes that I don't own. However, they say you can't control what you dream. So if I happen to be shopping for new motorcycle tires in some random dream I end up having, it's good to know I'll be armed with the proper knowledge to make a good purchasing decision. Thanks Ryan and FortNine. I needed this. 🔥
Great job, really appreciated 👏
Thank you, Ryan, excellent videos as always. I see you drink mate! Greetings from Argentina.
Awesome stuff, as always!
I've been thinking about the big blocks for a while. This helps a lot.
Amazing content as always, but I specially enjoyed that VERY traditional mate on the table. Cheers from Argentina!
Thanks for the video! A bit late, bought your road 6 gt's front and back, but I wouldn't change my mind after watching this anyway.
Q5S is the best feeling front tire I've ever ran on a street motorcycle. Doesn't fall in when modulating throttle, super smooth and loves to be loaded up trailing into an entry. I've never felt like I was pushing or close to tucking even on occasions where I had to stay on the brakes pretty hard to scrub off some speed and sharpen my line.
Great, As Always! I Laughed Out Loud At 5:30, For Example & I Don't Need A Camera Yet But I'll Be Looking At Your Insta360 When I Do. Thank You.
Super video! I was actually thinking to try out the Mutant on my Gen1 Tuono😁
Love it, keep it spinnin man.
Excelent straight talk on a mysterious subject!
Best tire vids on TH-cam. Thanks again.
Great video. Love to see the Electric Motion Epure. Great bike. I bought an Escape. They are fantastic in the right conditions and very quiet.
Another entertaining and informative video as always 👍
Big agree on the mutants. ran them on my cb300r and they responded fantastically at peg scraping leans, held extremely well under hard braking. Even on lightly sandy trails the rear did a great job of biteing into the surface under acceleration.
Absolutely great job, videos produced in both lenguajes English and Spanish, are awesome.
Cheers 🇲🇽
Love the video, keep it up.
Thank you!
Great vids mate! Thanks a lot.
Is that a mate on the table?
@fortnine love the small touch of the mate on the table.
Nice video... Thanks 👍
Thank YOU!
Great tire breakdown!! Thanks!
I love my Pirellis, but when they are ready to retire (🤭) I'll keep this info in mind.
Damn - you are soooooooooo entertaining!! Luv it!
Love Ryan with the mate always at reach
As always great video. I personally liked the static camera view in your previous video while you were explaining something on the board. Changing the angle every few seconds felt a little weird to me
As ever another great video
Dam you Ryan just bought a set , thanks for your content sir