Tier List: Easterlings
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มิ.ย. 2022
- Sean and Liam bring on the big wig, the man who lives and breathes easterlings, Riley. how often will he tell Liam and Sean they are wrong?. probably only seam cause he likes to set little fires.
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Lets get a Azog's Legion/Hunters/Dol Guldur mega Tier List episode - it's basically one big list with everything beeing green allies and red with almost everything else!
They're on the cards for sure, we have many thoughts on them
-Liam
Finally got round to watching this and after a few weeks of thinking about it this video has sent me over the edge... I’ve ordered the Dragon Emperor and 3 boxes of Easterling warriors with 6 Black Dragons as well as Rutabi and Brorgir. I’m blaming you guys 😂 I was doing so well holding off the temptation.
Whoopsie 😂 Hope you enjoy having no money for a while! Haha
-Liam
Finally! Ive been waiting for you guys to treat the Easterlings. I have mixed feeling about that dragon emperor though it seems a bit like pay to win. I love the model nonetheless and the rules feel exactly what the army needed.
Maybe it is just that I have such awesome captains converted(including 1 with chariot) and love running generic heroes with 2h axes smashing so called "Legends"
The dragon Emperor is very very strong, Especially for his points cost. It will be very interesting to see what happens once he's on the tabletop but the snippets I've seen from a couple of batreps he seems veryyyyyy strong. Wonder if a nerf in August will happen.
I do love me some converted captain running around smashing face.
-Sean
Depends on how often he wins against Lake Town 😝
Black Dragon mounted banner is S tier. Everytime I have used him he has beaten anything short of a named hero and slaughtered warriors. Need to add blood on his banner pole
Nothing I love more than a banner getting some kills.
-Sean
@@NoobsandMen last I used him he beat two Rohan riders, killed one, fought and killed the other next round, beat back another two then died the last man standing facing 3 riders, Theoden and Eomer while going for the Rohirim banner. Epic
We're not here to... did you say fuck spiders? Speak for yourself, Liam.
We found out tonight that Liam's in to some weird stuff. Said something about having mûmmykil trampling him🤷
-Sean
@@NoobsandMen What happens in Mirkwood stays in Mirkwood. Another Sean
Coming out the gate with the take "Amdur = best evil combat hero in the game, besides monsters" is really a hot take. I definitely wouldn't agree. Just one example, Bolg on warg costs only 30p points more, F7, S5 Burly and D7 make Bolg better. For sure there are a lot of special rules for both Amdur and Bolg. In the end still Bolg has the better fight value and kills way better. Amdur needs a 6 to wound a D7 model, Bolg need just a 4. Against Dwarfes with D7 for example Amdur struggles, Bolg can cut them down with ease and doing heroic combats to get terror, harbinger of evil and even mighty hero. Let's be real Bolg and Azog are OP. Hobbit power creep. Azog is much more expensive than Amdur. Bolg costs only 30points more and i would pay those 30points every day of the week :D
We literally say this in the video 🤣
@@NoobsandMen Liam just mentioned Azog and Bolg, rightfully so. What a wise comment 😄👍 Then Riley said both "are a lot more expensive". Liam and Sean agreed. That's the point I was triggered and was like "no, don't agree so easily! Come on guys" 😂 X is more expensive, so it's not better than Y is so easy to say and often wrong. For example a High Elf warrior with shield is 10p, Moria Black shield 8p. Nobody would say, High Elves with shield are 2p more, there not better 😂 High Elf with shield outclasses a Moria Black shield. I think everybody would agree. Not sayin' that Amdur ist like a black shield. Amdur is also A Tier for me. Just sayin' his combat power is often overestimated. Against heroes or troops with D7 he often does nothing and like Liam mentioned the D6 means Amdur himself gets wounded with S4 on just 5s. Would you pay 30p more to get Bolg in Easterling Uniform? If i could take Bolg in an Easterling army i surely would take Bolg over Amdur 😎
@@CapitanCorner i'm glad you acknowledged the hobbit era power creep haha.
you do make fair points, and this is why easterlings can struggle (and have over the years) as the whole army lacks killing power...
I feel many of these characters are a bit of a trap. Rutabi having bonuses to trapped models is a rule that should basically be ignored, the Dragon Emperor appears to be a combat hero but actually isn't (he's just a bully and buffer). Easterlings are an army that takes experience rather than book knowledge of the stats.
Also, I doubt if Easterlings should ever be taken outside of the Legendary Legion.
They absolutely should be taken out of the legion, the legion is great don't get me wrong but being able to have Khamul or Amdur in an Easterling list is faaantastic. Riley's podiumed a few tournaments with Easterlings, they're a great army in or out of the legion.
-Liam
@@NoobsandMen i like the idea of you pick one of two big heros, and a play style.
you take the emporer and go the legion. this becomes a complete wall, for your opponent to get through.
or you take amdur and maybe khamul. i think this list could get a higher kill rate.
rhutabi is always the second pick haha, and can be the leader with amdur. she is defs S tier.
My list is usually the legion with:
Emp
Rutabi
Brogir
Captain
But I wana try a non LL list with
Emp
Brogir
Kamul on armored felbeast
Good explanations
We try mate haha
-Sean
The issue with the captains is the Fight 4. The hand and a half axes are nice though.
Nah back them up with pikes and a black dragon at the end with the Emp nearby, then theyre fight 5 with 4 attacks
-Liam
Great Tier list :)
i liked easterlings already before but now they feel Like a complete Army with a lot of possibilities. and the Design sticks out really cool.
when is Khand Up? ;)
They really do have some amazing models In the army. Glad they have received the needed love as a faction buttttt maybe it's a tab overboard.
Hopefully Khand is soonish
-Sean
Amdur is still really, really really good. He's mounted, which the new heroes can't, and he's hand a half sword/blood and glory, which Rutabi isn't
Unless your looking at 1000 points your probably not tacking all big name heros (amdur, DE, Rutabi) and when your taking the DE you have two choices and in all honesty rutabi is without a doubt the take.
We do love amdur but he does move from S to A
-Sean
@@NoobsandMen i would move to suggest that Rhutabi is the only S tier take, maybe with brogir.
amdur and DE are both good, but you have a big choice between them and the playstyle they bring.
I always play them together with khand. Perfect hammer and amboss army🤗
That's an awesome combo
Pikes and chariots go squash!!!
-sean
Easterlings? Sell outs. When do we get the Desolator of the North tier list?! - Bongo
Smaug D tier, never take him in a desolator list
-Liam
@@NoobsandMen D for “DRRRAAAAGOOOOONNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!”
A good friend of mine won a (smallish) tourney with ruffians. He didn't slow play, but he played to objectives. (The best part was the match against Smaug that he won, as smaug only killed ~6 ruffians a turn on average).
It was a 16 player tournament in Richmond VA, USA
They have some tricks for sure and the numbers to make the game a bit of a slog for an army that can't cut through them fast enough.
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Thanks for the video! I'm curious: how do you use Acolytes? S tier is surprise for me and I wonder what I could do with my 12 models and on what points? :D
Acolytes are the perfect flanking troop, 2 attk and can leap around your opponents anchor point. And in a pinch perfect to have a couple of pike supporting them.
Personally at 800+ points I'd love to see 8-12 acolytes.
-Sean
Great thoughts! What about lower points? Are they worth to take them on 400-550? I’d see 3-4 of them but in these limits every unit is important and I’m worrying about their d4
Yeah I'd probably slot in 3-5 at 500pts
The low defence is a worry so keep them at the back of your lines to protect from shooting and hit your opponent with them at the right time coming around one flank
-sean
Just printed off a force of these orientals, please dont judge me too harshly lol
Let the judgement commence 🤣
-Sean
Amdur S tier. The Emperor can't do what he does. To slow, and you need to protect those palanqin buffs, because once they are gone he's just a very expensive and lesser Amdur.
If anything Rutabi and the Emperor has freed Amdur up, as they can take on the 'leader' role anchoring a troop block while he can focus on being the tactical nuke he was born to be
He's also a bad ass looking model. What a presence
He's still solid for sure, but I think he becomes a little more limited in what lists you out him in now. The Emp is just so cheap for what he does you want him in most Easterling lists but then to get numbers you got for cheaper heroes over Amdur after that. He still fits well with Rutabi but I don't think he's an auto take in the list anymore. Still incredible tho
-Liam
Hot take: if you are facing a shooting army immediately dismount the emperor to get 6 extra guys, but otherwise the emperor isn't for fighting, only buffing until he dismounts.
Why wouldn't you take black dragon warriors over normal easterling warriors if you are running the dragon emperor as it is free to upgrade?
We never compare these lists next to LLs, these are our opinions on the profiles in the pure army. Also the LL is kinda meh compared to the pure list anyway, Amdur is a beast with the emp at his back
-Liam
@@NoobsandMen okay thanks for the clarification, sorry I wasn't trying to be abrasive it was a genuine question brother.
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-Sean
placement of Kamul the Easterling? I cant find the section of the vid if you spoke about it.
Hey mate sadly we forgot to make a pip for khumal. But we placed him in A Tier between Amdur and Borghir.
If you wanna hear our words on him we talk about him at the 39min mark
-Sean
@@NoobsandMen many thanks
How do you run easterlings without pike block?
Magic mate.
Ever heard of it???
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nah absolutely no clue
-sean
Poorly... I've never tried it. What do you think of only using 1 row of pikes so it feels like spears? You could go cavalry heavy. It could be interesting to have a few mounted dragon knights and a bunch of kataphracts supporting some archers with a few pikes.
Or, all mounted Easterlings with an alliance, such as Mordor and Warg Riders supported by a fell beast Nazgul (Shadow Lord? Witch King?)? Haven't run it, but it could be a fun Cavalry spam with hard hitting heroes.
Dragon emperor is too buffed, it will be nerf soon, don't worry xD they are just testing him but wait until the first tournament then u will see how they nerf him. Rutabi is very good leader, but I will see her more like support hero than duelist, because u need her master of battle and trapped rules to get the best of her, so I will put amdur like my killer champ then rutabi as leader. If I ever play the emperor then the rest of the list should be generic captains and form a big phalanx.
Honestly a solid Emp lost for sure, captain's will be very nice with him.
-Liam