Damn bro my job and sleep deprivation the past 5 years had me go from a solid 8 down to like a 6 😂😂😂 but this video is very true. I never realized from like 20-23 why I was playing life on easy mode, and it’s so accurate people will treat you good often just because of looks. It sounds shallow, but regardless of gender or age people on average tend to just not want to look at “less good looking people”. I think this is why many new series are flopping in which they cast very run of the mill average faced people. It’s not that their ugly, it’s just subconsciously not super desirable to audiences
@@rokiejoe8452 ive seen men far more attractive on the street facially ...body wise yeah He's up there but otherwise ...he is kinda an avarage joe ....im nigerian too so
you say all 9-10s are 5’11” plus and then mentioned Ian Sumerholder as an example, but he’s 5’10”. i think it’s a great illustration of why defining an objective hierarchy is impossible. Human attraction is not so simple.
Very very interesting take on this topic. Your “you know it when you see it” description of 7s is fantastic, and spot on. Both sexes acknowledge it’s rare; maybe the 7s aren’t getting modeling contracts handed to them, but when you see him - you know.
This video is way more accurate than the others I’ve seen where dudes are throwing in random phenotypes into ratings where they see fit. I like how each rating is drastically better than the last.
@@Forbiddenqo8pv for example this TH-camr “ascended” made a looks scale and it made 0 sense because he put the same phenotypes (genetics) at a 6 and guys with the same phenotype at 9, like Ben affleck at 6 and Chico at 9. It doesn’t make sense because they are the same in terms of features
I have never judge my self before cause i dont really think anything about my self but i can tell you guys in today's life the more money you have the higher your good looking score most women around the world only wants bigger muscular guys or guys thats rich
2:06 you are wrong. The average is 5/10, but you are using the incorrect method of comparing the tallest and shortest of all time to find the average. Mathematically, this is called the median, and it's not used to find averages. You are supposed to use the mode which would be the height of all men and divide by how many there are. That would be the average global height for males. You are doing the simplifying.
The first time I saw this video I was shocked but it made 100% sense after really thinking about it. Being a 6 is really above average but there's always space for improvement that's the beauty of it. I"ve personally have an IFBB pro as my coach (he does my diet and training) I'm at 10.5% body fat and going down to 6% body fat, I've been working out for more than a year now. I use minoxidil to make my eyebrows way thicker and it's working wonders, I also use minoxidil to grow a beard and by December it will be ready. I have a face routine with all the creams that are necessary and I have a processionnal hairstylist too. I'm into fashion so I dress pretty well. Next year I'm also investing in Invisalign to fix my lower teeth, I currently use whitestrips from crest and its working wonders on my teeth. It's a lot of work but I'm on my way to become a solid 7 following this ranking. It's really crazy how men in general overestimate their beauty, they're really not objective enough or real.
@@neolink8197 I used to get average girls, now that I'm way better looking than before due to all my efforts and also have game I pull solid 8"s on tinder and in the bars and clubs in real life, matter of fact I got a date with a hottie this coming saturday. Because I'm doing all the work I described above when I look at the mirror I just find myself super hot and that gives me huge confidence, so when I'm going out to places I exude that and women love it. Yeah It's a lot of work and investment but nothing it's sexier than a woman that looks at you a certain way, that touches you, that smiles so much and its so deeply into you that they can't help themselves and ask you for your Insta or Phone number... and the only thing you did is say hi and smile and be social.... Now that's power... Beauty is power, for women and men remember that.
@@stanleysimmonsreactions9056 i'm not white bro😭, it's not that I think black ppl can't be attractive, there's ppl like anok yai the model,kelly oubre jr in the nba,and even the kinda blackpilled ytuber austin dunham. I just don't see the attractiveness of mbj
Nice scale, however, I always think that sorting rates by factors such as: female attention, likelihood to succeed, social perception, and in general every aspect that is somewhat into the social sphere of the individual, can be misleading to some degree. Cause while of course, the better looking you are, the more you’ll likely enhance your social life and perception. But here I said “likely” since exceptions are still widely present, especially in the upper ranks of most looks scales. To put my opinion into a more practical example, a guy who may be a 6 or so facially (cute, definitely not ugly but not extremely eye catching either) will have a very proficient social and romantic life, so if he happen to stumble on what’s the assumed treatment a person in a certain position on a certain looks scale, he may see himself more into how 8s or above are supposedly treated, therefore may enter a delusional cycle without even knowing. And while it’s still quite unclear on how to rate or consider certain facial features and proportions, I still believe that it’s way better than trying to oversimplify a stigmatized experience for supposedly a certain group of people. Now I don’t want to get misunderstood here, I firmly believe, after a fair share of analysis, to be an 8/10 or so facially (will describe myself throughout if someone’s ask), and I definitely don’t relate to a sub5 or a conventionally unattractive guy, but that doesn’t mean my life has to be a cakewalk, and if it is not, then I’m overrating myself. I dated little since i’m still young but definitely got mostly positive feedback and attentions so far. But definitely not to some absurd extreme like that everyone throws themselves at me or gets mesmerized by my beauty or some shit like that, for the most part I believe my life to be fairly regular. Maybe this whole point I made was intended already, but I do not fully think so. I can agree on the most obvious generalizations regarding treatment based off of looks, but the rest from my experiences is just a grey mixture that is dependent on many factors besides of looks, such as status, wealth, social prowess and character, mental illnesses, different personalities, the whole context and life of the single individual, and it goes on. Hope I made my point pass through comprehensively, so let me know if further clearance is needed or if I may get more in depth regarding a certain topic I mentioned.
the distribution for faces is ~15% of people are 7 or above, it's fairly normally distributed, 8's are like, 3% or so, 9's+ are like under a percent, basically 7's are reasonably common, both the guy and girl distribution is normal and has these same ratios
@@rotm4447 go get a big data set of faces and train a neural network and find out that you're confusing a real 8 for your definition of a 7, I had this discussion with someone else before, the looksmax community needs to get their numbers more accurately, in the real world, when compared to average, there legitimately are 15% of faces in both men and woman(1 standard deviation) that rank at 7 or above the average on a 1-10 scale, in the looksmaxxing community, they think these 7s are 6s possibly, and/or are selecting from certain locations like universities or certain cities, which don't match the broad population, but yes, in a broad population, it actually doesn't take too much to stand out and be above average in attractiveness, a lot of it is just clear skin and lower than average body fat, this dataset doesn't count body shape, which may affect results but in general, fat people have fat and unattractive faces, so it still stands to correlate in the same direction strongly
This is the lookism scale, which is bottom heavy, in fact, at the end of peak PSL, we started agreeing that most guys are infact about 3.5/10. Phenotype matters a lot, as well as things like bone mass index (frame) and height.
I'm a 7 facially tho it might sound as cope but I'm sure about it after noticing the change in attention in public and not to be delusional also tried to evaluate it professionally, my point is I was at a dinner with a guy yesterday and I am sure he was a 8 and it was a humbling expererience, like sure they came and complimented me on my physique but like this guy is a walking 2 meter models and I didn't meet them randomly on the street I was hanging out with them a few hours, I'm a looks guy I love it when someone is different and it felt like I was standing besides a insane person. At first it was like I'm doing all this shi and there are people who are still better then me it really demotivated me, because before that I can tell that I was a 3 or below but I'm positiv to reach that point of a 8 naturally one day facially of course, my body might boost me already to a 8 but I don't count anything under the neck. (just came to the part with 8. and I have to admit I could be put in 7. category but I feel like only surgery can bring me to a 8 right now, I'm still young and my bonestructure is worth being 8 its just my high eyelid exposure is messing it all up, maybe one day I will take the blackpill and get surgery but for now I'll try to get there naturally).
Some of those 7s and 8s seem a little questionable, but when it comes down to getting women, don't forget that charm and confidence pretty much trump (almost) all other factors. Often, very good looking men come to expect that they can wait passively for their desired women to make the first moves, and before they know it those women are swept up by enterprising 6s and 7s.
I've always had the opinion that I have a 4/10 face but according to this video it's actually 5/10 😁. Not being a sub 5 explains how I get any attention from girls at all. For context, I'm 5'10 and noticably muscular but it's more of an athletic build rather than the bodybuilder look.
It doesn’t work like this for men. Pure facial structure etc. is really not that important for most women. The 7s on your list will out pull the 9s and 10s most of the time. Women care much more about your status, wealth, and swagger.
I was just saying this the other day. Every guy that is asked rates themselves as a 7 or above. Women its generally 8 and above with a lot of frivolous 10's. Ridiculous. I figured i was a 3, though hope to move to a 4 on my present diet haha. 13kgs down... 20 more to go... no food for me LOL
@@neillunavat Doing weights to try and preserve muscle on the way down to my goal. Impossible to build muscle at the rate i am losing. I recently ordered some HMB powder which is supposed to help with muscle retention as you lose weight, or with age related muscle loss. I was just looking at the scientific studies on it, and i found one that when combined with creatine it can boost testosterone. Worth a shot. So after the cut comes the mass bulk, and mini cuts in between to keep the fat from accumulating too much. New territory for me thats for sure, i've never had the willpower to stick toa diet this well before.
@@MrSoggyjocksRemember have a Good Base and Plan first. Increase Testosterone and other primal hormones through diet. No woman likes a muscle bound gym bro. Work on aesthetics and have a balance. Brad Pitt in Troy for example.
Based on this I am not sure I have ever met a 9-10. Not only does the guy have to be handsome, but the physique, clothing and lighting has to be on point. I have always used 10% in each category.
very entertaining video but, idk the 4d being average argument doesn’t really make sense with your example: if you have 4’2 in the short extreme and 7’2 in the long extreme, if we have 5’2 in the middle that’s the MEDIAN, not the average. in this case, 5 would be the AVERAGE guy if we use this example
That’s not what the median is. Median is when you line up all values and pick the one right in the middle. Mean (average) is when you add them all and divide by their count. And mode (which is what he actually means here) is the most common value. So if we have: 1, 2, 2, 3, 10 Mean: 3.6 (18/5) Median: 2 because 2 is right in the middle Mode: 2 because 2 shows up the most So here most values are 2 (which is below 3.6). Just like most guys are a 4, even if 5 is the middle of the scale
Ok genuine question here. I can confidently say that face wise I am an 8. I regularly also go to the gym and am working on my physique although I’ve only been going for a little over a year (I’m 21 M btw). My question is this; I am exactly the average height in my country. Around 5 ft 9. With shoes on (so when I’m out in public) I stand at a little over 5’10”. Does height play into these ratings? If my face is an 8/10 but my height is average does this bring me down to a 7 or 6? Or is this strictly face/weight in and around the facial area? My height is my biggest insecurity and the most hurtful thing been told is that if I was 2 inches taller it would be over for all other guys (this hurt my feelings because I hate my height and because I feel the need to be perfect all the time).
It’s not that deep, I’m 5’6 and realistically a tweener, maybe a 7 depending on who you ask lol, I’m pretty active/ cut as well. Be yourself and the right girls will dig that, there’s only so far external stuff will get you. The moment you accept that you are the way you are the better your outlook on life and confidence will be.
@@kyle91021 hey man, well said. Sometimes that’s easier said than done but it’s something I work on and think about often. Dont want to go so far into the self improvement hole that I can’t climb out.
@@loganator4000 totally, always easier said than done. Self improvement is great, just make sure you’re doing it for yourself and for the right reasons. As long as you keep working on self acceptance/ confidence that’s all you can do bro. You got this man :)
What would you say is the distinction between a 9 and a 10? I'd say a young Brad Pitt is a 9 and Jordan Barrett is a 10. One is absurdly attractive, the other looks like a literal angel.
For me I just say 9s - 10s because it's so hard to say the difference between them, and I also think it's impossible to have a scientifically 100% "perfect" face. But from my perspective I think you can give those kind of guys a 10/10 because they're as close as it gets and women would rate them as a 10 without thinking about specific ratios and all that.
Good point, but I think the fundamental flaw with this concept of average is that most people are actually thinking of what they see as most common, so more like the "mode" rather than the average. The average can be misrepresenting, since extreme values can skew the numbers. Using a median would be better since it's right in the middle, but doesn't necessarily mean it would be much different than the average. Despite all that, as a construct, this video's scale is flawed, because he uses a range at the beginning, and a range at the end, but specific numbers between that. From the comments I've read, the general consensus is that we all have our own reasonable ranges, so in this video, the guy should've created ranges throughout the whole scale, not just some part arbitrarily. So like 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, etc. would've been much better. Also, standards of beauty are relative to time and region, and a good example portraying this is "Beauty Standards: See How Body Types Change Through History" from the science of people website.
I saw John Cena at a bar by ucla one time. We ended up partying with him…I tried to arm wrestle him, but he wouldn’t. But yeah…my friend saw him first and we were like “holy shit” that guy’s huge. Just an arm that was like 2 standard deviations larger than normal.
I have seen many 8,9, and 10 guys in Italy, Serbia and especially in Montenegro. Most of them are not famous. So, saying that you are destined to be an actor or a model if you are 9 or 10 applies mostly if you live in La, Ny, London, Milano... or go to live and work there.
Oh man, I've been through each of those countries, and you're right, those Montenegro women 😍. I lived in Europe and one of my roommates was from Montenegro. She was attractive but I saw her like a sister, but I kept telling her to hook me up with one of her friends. Only downside is that that country and Serbia are also one of the tallest nations in the world, and I'm 5'10". She was 6'1" and most of her friends were 5'10" - 6' ft, with one friend being 5'6", but she was taken 😔
I feel like the looks scale is kinda hit or miss coz there are so much variety between 6 to 7. 1 to 5 is kinda obvious and 8 to 10 is also obvious and subjective but 6 to 7 is everywhere
Famous and talented people make +2 points charisma and charm could give you an additional point for sure height alone is +1 but could be -2 for someone short, example a guy is a 5 but is 6’2 he gets to 6, if he’s lean the. Jumps to 7 some famous average looking like old Brendan Fraser jumps straight up to 7 plus charisma and charm gets to 8
It's possible. I've seen overweight people that have really nice features and I look at them thinking, if they took better care of their weight and physiques they'd be knockouts! It's a shame and wasted potential.
@@streiya as long you don't tell them this blackpill truth... It's fine.. Even if y tell they will never accept it though. Cope. Most of them already happy and accepting their condition( although sometimes they still think about why they never attract a girl, rarely get complement, always getting bullied) we shouldn't interfere with it. Keep blackpill for personal ideology, balancing the dating games.
Well, called myself a 7, but on this scale I look like the guys who are 8's. That one girl telling me I looked like a celebrity makes some sense now ig, another told me I have almost 0 flaws. I've never been bullied, girls have had crushes on me, people typically flock to me despite the fact I'm not social.
@@windexbleach2205 And If you were anything above a 4/10 then you wouldn’t be trying to argue with someone who’s attractive and has never been rated below a 7 🤷♂️. Say you’re insecure without saying it.
This 1-10 scale is looked through a mans perspective where we judge women and men based on looks. But unless you play for the other team this is pretty irrelevant. If we look at the attractiveness scale of men through a womans point of view the 5-10 range changes a lot. I'll take myself as an example trying to be as rational as possible. -I'm 6'3 (190cm) -82kg lean muscle mass. -I compete in martial arts. -I'm blessed downstairs with 6 inches My face is average and it's probably in the 4-5 range. I would probably consider myself a 5, possibly a 6 because of height, fitness and some baseline charisma (I'd like to think). Now even though my looks are pretty set, a man can still climb to be a 10 focusing on other variables (remember we are still looking through attraction from a womans perspective). -My income is average, but if that increased to above 6 figures I would immediately climb to a 7-8. -If I changed my lifestyle to "fun" and exciting with traveling etc I could climb even more. -Adding high social status (situational or mainstream works) I could climb. -Then adding charisma and other attractive characteristics that are in my control it's possible to be a 10 in terms of attractiveness to a woman. I don't think men understand how lucky we are because we make the mistake of looking at what's attractive from our point of view and not the woman. We are lucky because a woman's beauty is a lot more fixed. It depends a lot more on being born lucky to climb the 5-10 after she is already fit etc. A man has more variables that are in his own control that he can change. That's my 2 cents.
Is the scale defined in a way so that the group being rating is divided into equal sized units ? That is, each number from 1-10 is attributed to 10 percent of the population. If not, why not? This is a logical way to define the scale.
Depends on what you define a 1 to 10. I honestly think a better definition is not a bell-curve one (which I think you were trying to use in your video but still failed miserably by saying that most men are 4s), but a percentile one, plus it's already the one used by most people and the one assumed when you're asked to rate yourself on a scale of 1 to 10.
Thank god I'm not a chick. I can put in a couple years of work and get to a 7 looks wise and by then my companies will have surpassed the 7 figure mark. In hindsight I way rather prefer my position of starting off as a 6 with a fire under my ass to work and improve my life and having the financial rewards long term to go with it than to start off as a 9 or 10 and just be stuck in some 6 figure job with little motivation to endure the harsh sacrifices to drastically improve my situation (sorry if that comes off as pretentious, we all have different opportunities in life).
bro theres more motivation to work in life if ur a 9-10 than ur a 6 all the girls just staring at u and u know whats going on, that gives a lot of dopamine only being present.
Most men are below women’s standards because male dominated societies for the most part eliminated female sexual selection from the mating process. For thousands of years, women for the most part did not get to choose who they mated with. When they did it was usually at great personal risk, either through an affair or by eloping. Even when societies became more liberal it was usually the men who had pursued the women and women often had to accept any acceptable suitor because rejecting a man also came at great personal risk. It’s only very recently in developed countries that it became culturally appopriate for women to ask out men.
@@anonymous2858 violence in general including murder, or on the lesser scale social or economic consequences if the advances are coming from a man in power over the woman.
only comment i'll leave is that as an 8+ dealing with women is easy peasy. the work is done for you. the problem is all the hating ass dudes or the gay dudes. it's EXHAUSTING dealing with dudes coming out the wood work with a problem with an attractive guy.
Lost all credibility when you put Brandon Fraser as a 5 and then proceeded to put Prince Harry and the Office guy as a 6. Brandon Fraser in his prime was voted sexiest man alive by People's magazine.
Like, I look like exactly like this. Like when I look in the mirror like is see myself like every part of my face is like a like mirror image of like the guys in the video like call me narcissus like I'm like crazy with the ladies you know like.
I have groupmate, who has that level of facial harmony and handsomness, that he could be 8, but he is little bit chubby, so his good-shaped jaw isn't noticeable, also he has that thick glasses, so you can't properly see his face symmetry and harmony. It is real life "ugly" main hero, who could outshine that popular mean girl or bullly guy. And I am myself probably lower than 4, because I find your 4s more attractive than me. But you know what. I think, that being less atractive man is too much, because even if I am(woman) not that high scale beauty, I meet more friendly people, than him, being hidden 8. Or is it just me, who notices his potential? I suppose, that teachers could see it too and unintentionally they are more tolerant to him(here everyone in my group agrees). But if we are talking about same-aged people, they don't see it and usually asking, how the hell did he get this grade, when he didn't even do/know much?
Bro was rock hard talking about 9-10
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Prince Harry is a 4/10 not a 6/10
Bro was blushing talking about 9-10
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Bro is glazing too hard💀
Lowkey sus behavior.
Bro was mogged
i am ropemaxxing after this video
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@@dondieseliman654 not yet,maybe i am not 100% cooked
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i cant unhear it anymore now 💀
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Nigga what? Tf does that even mean
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Brendan Fraser may be a 5 now, but in his youth (Brendan in The Mummy) he was a straight up 9/10. Goes to show beauty is ephemeral.
This is so true, he was vwry dependent on low bf percentage.
Agreed. In the mummy films he's very handsome, pretty well built too.
I think he was alright. 7 would be a better ranking cuz of facial harmony
Beauty also depends massively on how well you take care of yourself.
Even then Brendan didn't look attractive to me at all. Body was ok (although I prefer skinnier) but face was kind of funny average.
Young Brendan Fraser as a 5 is wild
Man, living life as an attractive person really is such a huge privilege. Maybe even the biggest privilege of them all.
Fr. Pretty privilege is real and I'm tired of people in denial saying that it's not.
Just be attractive, bro.
Great breakdown
? The video is literally about attractiveness
@Eric-oq2yu Just be literally about attractiveness, bro.
@@handsomeX"1-10 looks scale"
A couple million in the bank will make you go from a 4 to an 8 real quick!
Surgery?
@@YonasKahsay-cj9dw😂😂😂 Surgery indeed. Money will never generate genuine desire in a women.
Damn bro my job and sleep deprivation the past 5 years had me go from a solid 8 down to like a 6 😂😂😂 but this video is very true. I never realized from like 20-23 why I was playing life on easy mode, and it’s so accurate people will treat you good often just because of looks. It sounds shallow, but regardless of gender or age people on average tend to just not want to look at “less good looking people”. I think this is why many new series are flopping in which they cast very run of the mill average faced people. It’s not that their ugly, it’s just subconsciously not super desirable to audiences
I don't think many people in this community think average person is 7/10. But outside of this for sure, some get even offended if u call them 7/10 😂
7/10 is a decent looking guy.
@@calvinvaj8764 more than decent but depends how harsh are you with rating
So many people in denial in these comments 🤣
Of course its a hit in the ego im just thankful to god that i rather giftet genetically and can enjoy life without restrictions
people have a difference preference
@@Terra_deander i'm just glad i've got a jawline lmao
I give myself a 5. If someone says I'm a 6, I'd be happy with it.
Also, Brendan Fraser was definitely an 8 when he was younger.
Dude was a 10 no homo… 🥴
No 6.5 😅
10
He was a 10 in the 1st mummy movie 🥵😮💨
@@nmercenary no diddy 😂😂
mbj a 7 now you wild
he is though
He is ...he isnt that attractive
should be lower, hes genes are a curse
@@Geralddd966💀 women disagree heavy with this. You ain’t seeing a mbj on the street😭
@@rokiejoe8452 ive seen men far more attractive on the street facially ...body wise yeah He's up there but otherwise ...he is kinda an avarage joe ....im nigerian too so
you say all 9-10s are 5’11” plus and then mentioned Ian Sumerholder as an example, but he’s 5’10”. i think it’s a great illustration of why defining an objective hierarchy is impossible. Human attraction is not so simple.
Very very interesting take on this topic. Your “you know it when you see it” description of 7s is fantastic, and spot on. Both sexes acknowledge it’s rare; maybe the 7s aren’t getting modeling contracts handed to them, but when you see him - you know.
This video is way more accurate than the others I’ve seen where dudes are throwing in random phenotypes into ratings where they see fit. I like how each rating is drastically better than the last.
What you mean random phenos?
@@Forbiddenqo8pv for example this TH-camr “ascended” made a looks scale and it made 0 sense because he put the same phenotypes (genetics) at a 6 and guys with the same phenotype at 9, like Ben affleck at 6 and Chico at 9. It doesn’t make sense because they are the same in terms of features
@@boratalksakabrandon_bora422 fair point
So true I noticed that as well
I have never judge my self before cause i dont really think anything about my self but i can tell you guys in today's life the more money you have the higher your good looking score most women around the world only wants bigger muscular guys or guys thats rich
Most real one i've seen
I am fine with being a 4 I’m not the best looking and I’m ok with that.
are u a virgin?
ur a 10 with that confidence
You are? Giving it away into such a deprecating context Even if thats not the intention dude
😂😂😂😂😂
Don't fall into this bollocks brother. You are what you make yourself to be. Don't lower your standards.
2:06 you are wrong. The average is 5/10, but you are using the incorrect method of comparing the tallest and shortest of all time to find the average. Mathematically, this is called the median, and it's not used to find averages. You are supposed to use the mode which would be the height of all men and divide by how many there are. That would be the average global height for males. You are doing the simplifying.
The first time I saw this video I was shocked but it made 100% sense after really thinking about it. Being a 6 is really above average but there's always space for improvement that's the beauty of it. I"ve personally have an IFBB pro as my coach (he does my diet and training) I'm at 10.5% body fat and going down to 6% body fat, I've been working out for more than a year now. I use minoxidil to make my eyebrows way thicker and it's working wonders, I also use minoxidil to grow a beard and by December it will be ready. I have a face routine with all the creams that are necessary and I have a processionnal hairstylist too. I'm into fashion so I dress pretty well. Next year I'm also investing in Invisalign to fix my lower teeth, I currently use whitestrips from crest and its working wonders on my teeth. It's a lot of work but I'm on my way to become a solid 7 following this ranking. It's really crazy how men in general overestimate their beauty, they're really not objective enough or real.
Crazy how much work men just to even get an average girl...
@@neolink8197 I used to get average girls, now that I'm way better looking than before due to all my efforts and also have game I pull solid 8"s on tinder and in the bars and clubs in real life, matter of fact I got a date with a hottie this coming saturday. Because I'm doing all the work I described above when I look at the mirror I just find myself super hot and that gives me huge confidence, so when I'm going out to places I exude that and women love it. Yeah It's a lot of work and investment but nothing it's sexier than a woman that looks at you a certain way, that touches you, that smiles so much and its so deeply into you that they can't help themselves and ask you for your Insta or Phone number... and the only thing you did is say hi and smile and be social.... Now that's power... Beauty is power, for women and men remember that.
I've never even seen an "8" irl.
There are a lot of 5s that could be a 7 if they ate right, got some sun, hit the gym and dressed well
Mbj is a tweener,if not for his fame, he's pretty normal looking
You hella wild bro
@@STEPHx1911 I just don't see it man,from my experience,the only girls thirsting for him is old women and fat girls
@@STEPHx1911 its fax ...he doesnt have a fantastic face ...he's alright
I'm assuming you're a white person or at least non black
@@stanleysimmonsreactions9056 i'm not white bro😭, it's not that I think black ppl can't be attractive, there's ppl like anok yai the model,kelly oubre jr in the nba,and even the kinda blackpilled ytuber austin dunham. I just don't see the attractiveness of mbj
When I’m heavier I’m a 4 and when I’m fit I’m a 6.
Nailed it
Nice scale, however, I always think that sorting rates by factors such as: female attention, likelihood to succeed, social perception, and in general every aspect that is somewhat into the social sphere of the individual, can be misleading to some degree.
Cause while of course, the better looking you are, the more you’ll likely enhance your social life and perception. But here I said “likely” since exceptions are still widely present, especially in the upper ranks of most looks scales.
To put my opinion into a more practical example, a guy who may be a 6 or so facially (cute, definitely not ugly but not extremely eye catching either) will have a very proficient social and romantic life, so if he happen to stumble on what’s the assumed treatment a person in a certain position on a certain looks scale, he may see himself more into how 8s or above are supposedly treated, therefore may enter a delusional cycle without even knowing.
And while it’s still quite unclear on how to rate or consider certain facial features and proportions, I still believe that it’s way better than trying to oversimplify a stigmatized experience for supposedly a certain group of people.
Now I don’t want to get misunderstood here, I firmly believe, after a fair share of analysis, to be an 8/10 or so facially (will describe myself throughout if someone’s ask), and I definitely don’t relate to a sub5 or a conventionally unattractive guy, but that doesn’t mean my life has to be a cakewalk, and if it is not, then I’m overrating myself.
I dated little since i’m still young but definitely got mostly positive feedback and attentions so far. But definitely not to some absurd extreme like that everyone throws themselves at me or gets mesmerized by my beauty or some shit like that, for the most part I believe my life to be fairly regular.
Maybe this whole point I made was intended already, but I do not fully think so.
I can agree on the most obvious generalizations regarding treatment based off of looks, but the rest from my experiences is just a grey mixture that is dependent on many factors besides of looks, such as status, wealth, social prowess and character, mental illnesses, different personalities, the whole context and life of the single individual, and it goes on.
Hope I made my point pass through comprehensively, so let me know if further clearance is needed or if I may get more in depth regarding a certain topic I mentioned.
I also excuse if periods and punctuations aren’t the best, but I still kinda struggle by that matter
men rank themselves as the same as the best woman they ever get, which causes delusion.
nah the jumps are crazy
it's inadequate, man
I’ll put my look in 3 - 10, and my strength in 10 - 10.
Bruh if Brendan Fraser in his 30s is a 5, then I’m a 1
Then you probably are
He's referring to current Fraser, young Fraser is around 7-7.5
@@bozzbozz2800he is probably not.
the distribution for faces is ~15% of people are 7 or above, it's fairly normally distributed, 8's are like, 3% or so, 9's+ are like under a percent, basically 7's are reasonably common, both the guy and girl distribution is normal and has these same ratios
you can shift these numbers up for large cities or universities with many attractive upper class people in them
this does not count body or height
go walk around and then tell me 12-15% of guys you see are 7+ or that 1 out of every 30 looks like a model.
@@rotm4447 go get a big data set of faces and train a neural network and find out that you're confusing a real 8 for your definition of a 7, I had this discussion with someone else before, the looksmax community needs to get their numbers more accurately, in the real world, when compared to average, there legitimately are 15% of faces in both men and woman(1 standard deviation) that rank at 7 or above the average on a 1-10 scale, in the looksmaxxing community, they think these 7s are 6s possibly, and/or are selecting from certain locations like universities or certain cities, which don't match the broad population, but yes, in a broad population, it actually doesn't take too much to stand out and be above average in attractiveness, a lot of it is just clear skin and lower than average body fat, this dataset doesn't count body shape, which may affect results but in general, fat people have fat and unattractive faces, so it still stands to correlate in the same direction strongly
@@rotm4447 I tested the 7s in this video and they legit score around 7 in the neural network of faces
I give myself a 6 on that scale and i'm pretty happy about it honestly i feel awesome!!!
1-6: average/invisible, 7: everyday good looking, 8-10 actor/model looks
A 9-10 can easily be an 8 without makeup,lighting,etc.
Beauty lies on the eye of the beholder and the weight of your bank account!
This is the lookism scale, which is bottom heavy, in fact, at the end of peak PSL, we started agreeing that most guys are infact about 3.5/10. Phenotype matters a lot, as well as things like bone mass index (frame) and height.
Jordan Barrett und Jorge del Rio in their Prime are amazing without doubt
Lmao Harry is not a 6 😂😂 he's more like a 5
Thin lips💀💀💀
Nuh uh
@@raven2770but he got a nice smile and cool eyes. Compensates
@@raven2770 his lips are fine. But he is a 4 or 5 red head.
I'm a 7 facially tho it might sound as cope but I'm sure about it after noticing the change in attention in public and not to be delusional also tried to evaluate it professionally, my point is I was at a dinner with a guy yesterday and I am sure he was a 8 and it was a humbling expererience, like sure they came and complimented me on my physique but like this guy is a walking 2 meter models and I didn't meet them randomly on the street I was hanging out with them a few hours, I'm a looks guy I love it when someone is different and it felt like I was standing besides a insane person. At first it was like I'm doing all this shi and there are people who are still better then me it really demotivated me, because before that I can tell that I was a 3 or below but I'm positiv to reach that point of a 8 naturally one day facially of course, my body might boost me already to a 8 but I don't count anything under the neck. (just came to the part with 8. and I have to admit I could be put in 7. category but I feel like only surgery can bring me to a 8 right now, I'm still young and my bonestructure is worth being 8 its just my high eyelid exposure is messing it all up, maybe one day I will take the blackpill and get surgery but for now I'll try to get there naturally).
I'm either a 6 or 7 from my experience
Some of those 7s and 8s seem a little questionable, but when it comes down to getting women, don't forget that charm and confidence pretty much trump (almost) all other factors. Often, very good looking men come to expect that they can wait passively for their desired women to make the first moves, and before they know it those women are swept up by enterprising 6s and 7s.
Very accurate tbh
I've always had the opinion that I have a 4/10 face but according to this video it's actually 5/10 😁. Not being a sub 5 explains how I get any attention from girls at all. For context, I'm 5'10 and noticably muscular but it's more of an athletic build rather than the bodybuilder look.
If you wanna be an 8 you gotta be before growth spurt rn and never ever mouth breath
It doesn’t work like this for men. Pure facial structure etc. is really not that important for most women. The 7s on your list will out pull the 9s and 10s most of the time. Women care much more about your status, wealth, and swagger.
Y i dont see guys talking about swaggmaxxing how to explain thug looking guys with so beauty girls!?
Women care about the face more than men do.
Status underrated.. wealth isn't everything.... swagger isn’t enough.
As a girl, i surprisingly completely agree
as a girl, you're a 3 who calls herself a 10
@@dan3696 lmao
The 9 to 10 all have hunter’s eyes razor sharp jawline! Damn
Most of the people in this comment section claiming they are 6 or 7 is delusional
6 are like quite rare
Im still 7 but can be an 8, even if thats rare or not
A lot of men think they are 7s but most fall within the 4-6 range
@@_Brutal_ Yes bcs they think the average is 7 but I am not average
@@frisstake2824show proof lil bro
@@naaaaaaameeeeeee first Im older than you second I cant send pic on youtube?
Bro called me tweener in every fucking way.
Under you video construction I’d fall into a 7 but it’s still your opinion everyones scale is different
Facts. The average woman really runs into a good looking guy in real life.
I was just saying this the other day. Every guy that is asked rates themselves as a 7 or above. Women its generally 8 and above with a lot of frivolous 10's. Ridiculous. I figured i was a 3, though hope to move to a 4 on my present diet haha. 13kgs down... 20 more to go... no food for me LOL
13KG is massive man, good work. Love to see it 💪
be sure to build muscle tho, not just lose fat. thatd be more attractive
@@neillunavat Doing weights to try and preserve muscle on the way down to my goal. Impossible to build muscle at the rate i am losing. I recently ordered some HMB powder which is supposed to help with muscle retention as you lose weight, or with age related muscle loss. I was just looking at the scientific studies on it, and i found one that when combined with creatine it can boost testosterone. Worth a shot. So after the cut comes the mass bulk, and mini cuts in between to keep the fat from accumulating too much. New territory for me thats for sure, i've never had the willpower to stick toa diet this well before.
@@MrSoggyjocksRemember have a Good Base and Plan first. Increase Testosterone and other primal hormones through diet.
No woman likes a muscle bound gym bro.
Work on aesthetics and have a balance. Brad Pitt in Troy for example.
Dude no food is dagerous. My mom is a social worker and bad eating hunbits for diets is a common problem. Its cool to diat just eat enough
Based on this I am not sure I have ever met a 9-10. Not only does the guy have to be handsome, but the physique, clothing and lighting has to be on point.
I have always used 10% in each category.
very entertaining video but,
idk the 4d being average argument doesn’t really make sense with your example:
if you have 4’2 in the short extreme and 7’2 in the long extreme, if we have 5’2 in the middle that’s the MEDIAN, not the average. in this case, 5 would be the AVERAGE guy if we use this example
That’s not what the median is. Median is when you line up all values and pick the one right in the middle. Mean (average) is when you add them all and divide by their count. And mode (which is what he actually means here) is the most common value.
So if we have:
1, 2, 2, 3, 10
Mean: 3.6 (18/5)
Median: 2 because 2 is right in the middle
Mode: 2 because 2 shows up the most
So here most values are 2 (which is below 3.6). Just like most guys are a 4, even if 5 is the middle of the scale
@@MrBBQNACHO so in reality 5 is the mean because the looks scale follows a standard bell curve right?
3:34 imo the average guy actually does look quite good
Its always relative through at some degree
Ok genuine question here. I can confidently say that face wise I am an 8. I regularly also go to the gym and am working on my physique although I’ve only been going for a little over a year (I’m 21 M btw). My question is this; I am exactly the average height in my country. Around 5 ft 9. With shoes on (so when I’m out in public) I stand at a little over 5’10”. Does height play into these ratings? If my face is an 8/10 but my height is average does this bring me down to a 7 or 6? Or is this strictly face/weight in and around the facial area? My height is my biggest insecurity and the most hurtful thing been told is that if I was 2 inches taller it would be over for all other guys (this hurt my feelings because I hate my height and because I feel the need to be perfect all the time).
It’s not that deep, I’m 5’6 and realistically a tweener, maybe a 7 depending on who you ask lol, I’m pretty active/ cut as well. Be yourself and the right girls will dig that, there’s only so far external stuff will get you. The moment you accept that you are the way you are the better your outlook on life and confidence will be.
@@kyle91021 hey man, well said. Sometimes that’s easier said than done but it’s something I work on and think about often. Dont want to go so far into the self improvement hole that I can’t climb out.
@@loganator4000 totally, always easier said than done. Self improvement is great, just make sure you’re doing it for yourself and for the right reasons. As long as you keep working on self acceptance/ confidence that’s all you can do bro. You got this man :)
The guy in 4 looks better than the guy in 5
You should make one with only lean man it would be easier to compare
Man after watching this video idk wtf I am
I put myself as a 3/10 or maybe a 2.5/10.
What would you say is the distinction between a 9 and a 10?
I'd say a young Brad Pitt is a 9 and Jordan Barrett is a 10. One is absurdly attractive, the other looks like a literal angel.
For me I just say 9s - 10s because it's so hard to say the difference between them, and I also think it's impossible to have a scientifically 100% "perfect" face. But from my perspective I think you can give those kind of guys a 10/10 because they're as close as it gets and women would rate them as a 10 without thinking about specific ratios and all that.
Jordan barrett's cheekbones ☠️
Damn i just realised how ugly i am
It doesn't matter bro
Improve the best you can brother 🤙💯
Do self improvement 🙆👍
Ur heart: ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Me too bro
Average is not 5 if 1 is the lowest. It is 5,5.
Good point, but I think the fundamental flaw with this concept of average is that most people are actually thinking of what they see as most common, so more like the "mode" rather than the average. The average can be misrepresenting, since extreme values can skew the numbers. Using a median would be better since it's right in the middle, but doesn't necessarily mean it would be much different than the average. Despite all that, as a construct, this video's scale is flawed, because he uses a range at the beginning, and a range at the end, but specific numbers between that. From the comments I've read, the general consensus is that we all have our own reasonable ranges, so in this video, the guy should've created ranges throughout the whole scale, not just some part arbitrarily. So like 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, etc. would've been much better. Also, standards of beauty are relative to time and region, and a good example portraying this is "Beauty Standards: See How Body Types Change Through History" from the science of people website.
Nice job
I saw John Cena at a bar by ucla one time. We ended up partying with him…I tried to arm wrestle him, but he wouldn’t. But yeah…my friend saw him first and we were like “holy shit” that guy’s huge. Just an arm that was like 2 standard deviations larger than normal.
Brendan Fraser used to be a certified Chad Lite back in the 90s, its just that agepill has gotten to him.
I have seen many 8,9, and 10 guys in Italy, Serbia and especially in Montenegro. Most of them are not famous.
So, saying that you are destined to be an actor or a model if you are 9 or 10 applies mostly if you live in La, Ny, London, Milano... or go to live and work there.
Oh man, I've been through each of those countries, and you're right, those Montenegro women 😍. I lived in Europe and one of my roommates was from Montenegro. She was attractive but I saw her like a sister, but I kept telling her to hook me up with one of her friends. Only downside is that that country and Serbia are also one of the tallest nations in the world, and I'm 5'10". She was 6'1" and most of her friends were 5'10" - 6' ft, with one friend being 5'6", but she was taken 😔
Pen badgley is more like an 8 tbh
Fax
I agree
I feel like the looks scale is kinda hit or miss coz there are so much variety between 6 to 7. 1 to 5 is kinda obvious and 8 to 10 is also obvious and subjective but 6 to 7 is everywhere
Forget about the scale. You need to grammarmaxx lil bro
Love this vid cuz its realistic lookmaxxing
Famous and talented people make +2 points charisma and charm could give you an additional point for sure height alone is +1 but could be -2 for someone short, example a guy is a 5 but is 6’2 he gets to 6, if he’s lean the. Jumps to 7 some famous average looking like old Brendan Fraser jumps straight up to 7 plus charisma and charm gets to 8
i look like the 8s on this (but with darker skin) and i think thats what ruins it, i have hunter eyes, high cheekboned and a very strong jawline
You mean prey eyes, no cheekbones, and a recessed chin 😂😂😂
Yes I know
Why you guys keep putting MBJ at 7. That dude is a solid 8
His jaw and facial structure are an abomination
@@unknow629 Only people that say that are white people.
@@unknow629 exactly
He IS one of us
@@unknow629 bro he a tweener
Finally somebody points it out and spits facts
Thinking about it now, I've never been made fun of for my looks. It's always been my weight especially back in middle and high school.
It's possible. I've seen overweight people that have really nice features and I look at them thinking, if they took better care of their weight and physiques they'd be knockouts! It's a shame and wasted potential.
@@streiya as long you don't tell them this blackpill truth... It's fine..
Even if y tell they will never accept it though. Cope.
Most of them already happy and accepting their condition( although sometimes they still think about why they never attract a girl, rarely get complement, always getting bullied)
we shouldn't interfere with it. Keep blackpill for personal ideology, balancing the dating games.
Well, called myself a 7, but on this scale I look like the guys who are 8's. That one girl telling me I looked like a celebrity makes some sense now ig, another told me I have almost 0 flaws. I've never been bullied, girls have had crushes on me, people typically flock to me despite the fact I'm not social.
We all know bro is actually a 5 coping
@@windexbleach2205 Got rated as a 7 with 8 potential, so no, not coping.
@@diegobrando6115 If bro was a real 7 with 8 potential you would not be on this video commenting lmao
@@windexbleach2205 And If you were anything above a 4/10 then you wouldn’t be trying to argue with someone who’s attractive and has never been rated below a 7 🤷♂️. Say you’re insecure without saying it.
@@diegobrando6115 Getting very defensive, if you were a real 7-8 you'd take this as a compliment instead of getting aggressive 😂😂
For all 6's are below average for girls perspective b/w 6-7 are avg and rest above average
Yes I know 😂
This 1-10 scale is looked through a mans perspective where we judge women and men based on looks.
But unless you play for the other team this is pretty irrelevant.
If we look at the attractiveness scale of men through a womans point of view the 5-10 range changes a lot.
I'll take myself as an example trying to be as rational as possible.
-I'm 6'3 (190cm)
-82kg lean muscle mass.
-I compete in martial arts.
-I'm blessed downstairs with 6 inches
My face is average and it's probably in the 4-5 range.
I would probably consider myself a 5, possibly a 6 because of height, fitness and some baseline charisma (I'd like to think).
Now even though my looks are pretty set, a man can still climb to be a 10 focusing on other variables (remember we are still looking through attraction from a womans perspective).
-My income is average, but if that increased to above 6 figures I would immediately climb to a 7-8.
-If I changed my lifestyle to "fun" and exciting with traveling etc I could climb even more.
-Adding high social status (situational or mainstream works) I could climb.
-Then adding charisma and other attractive characteristics that are in my control it's possible to be a 10 in terms of attractiveness to a woman.
I don't think men understand how lucky we are because we make the mistake of looking at what's attractive from our point of view and not the woman.
We are lucky because a woman's beauty is a lot more fixed. It depends a lot more on being born lucky to climb the 5-10 after she is already fit etc.
A man has more variables that are in his own control that he can change.
That's my 2 cents.
Is the scale defined in a way so that the group being rating is divided into equal sized units ? That is, each number from 1-10 is attributed to 10 percent of the population. If not, why not? This is a logical way to define the scale.
You described the median not the average.
Jorge del Rio has the insanest eyes ever
MBJ being a 7 is kind of mind blowing
Depends on what you define a 1 to 10. I honestly think a better definition is not a bell-curve one (which I think you were trying to use in your video but still failed miserably by saying that most men are 4s), but a percentile one, plus it's already the one used by most people and the one assumed when you're asked to rate yourself on a scale of 1 to 10.
Thank god I'm not a chick. I can put in a couple years of work and get to a 7 looks wise and by then my companies will have surpassed the 7 figure mark. In hindsight I way rather prefer my position of starting off as a 6 with a fire under my ass to work and improve my life and having the financial rewards long term to go with it than to start off as a 9 or 10 and just be stuck in some 6 figure job with little motivation to endure the harsh sacrifices to drastically improve my situation (sorry if that comes off as pretentious, we all have different opportunities in life).
So sigma 😱😱🥶🥶😈😈
@@stormtrooper_exe3252 gay ass term but I'll take the compliment lol
cope dont rope. looks are everything.
bro theres more motivation to work in life if ur a 9-10 than ur a 6 all the girls just staring at u and u know whats going on, that gives a lot of dopamine only being present.
Most men are below women’s standards because male dominated societies for the most part eliminated female sexual selection from the mating process. For thousands of years, women for the most part did not get to choose who they mated with. When they did it was usually at great personal risk, either through an affair or by eloping. Even when societies became more liberal it was usually the men who had pursued the women and women often had to accept any acceptable suitor because rejecting a man also came at great personal risk. It’s only very recently in developed countries that it became culturally appopriate for women to ask out men.
The parents' approvals ☠️☠️
wdym by personal risk, like theyll punch her?
@@anonymous2858 violence in general including murder, or on the lesser scale social or economic consequences if the advances are coming from a man in power over the woman.
spot on
please add dedicated subtittles
the automatic subttitles is not enough
Mbj is no more than 5.5, no chin no jaw, big nose, bad eyes 😅
only comment i'll leave is that as an 8+ dealing with women is easy peasy. the work is done for you.
the problem is all the hating ass dudes or the gay dudes.
it's EXHAUSTING dealing with dudes coming out the wood work with a problem with an attractive guy.
Guys I think I'm sniffing 5 🤣
Lost all credibility when you put Brandon Fraser as a 5 and then proceeded to put Prince Harry and the Office guy as a 6. Brandon Fraser in his prime was voted sexiest man alive by People's magazine.
Like, I look like exactly like this. Like when I look in the mirror like is see myself like every part of my face is like a like mirror image of like the guys in the video like call me narcissus like I'm like crazy with the ladies you know like.
'like'
I am a solid 6, I wish I was better looking. Looks have been my biggest insecurity
Bro that is above average 😭
Bro chill, im a 4, luckily I found a girl who likes older men. A niche i dont have to try with at 34 😂.
Bro u are on 30% of looks
I mean it is quite rare
I have been rated by wheat waffle 6.5 and im happy with it
i am leaning towards hardmaxxing, thinking of getting some implants
I realised that i need to work on my personality😢
have to compensate somehow😂
Peak Brendan Fraser is 8 Prince Harry is an easy 5
Bro made a big ass jump in beetween 6 and 7 probably to make ppl feel better like a 6 or sth.
Who is the nine in the upper left hand corner? He is handsome. Not sure about the rest.
after watching this video and being brutally honest with myself I just gotta admit it.... im a 10
I have groupmate, who has that level of facial harmony and handsomness, that he could be 8, but he is little bit chubby, so his good-shaped jaw isn't noticeable, also he has that thick glasses, so you can't properly see his face symmetry and harmony. It is real life "ugly" main hero, who could outshine that popular mean girl or bullly guy.
And I am myself probably lower than 4, because I find your 4s more attractive than me. But you know what.
I think, that being less atractive man is too much, because even if I am(woman) not that high scale beauty, I meet more friendly people, than him, being hidden 8.
Or is it just me, who notices his potential? I suppose, that teachers could see it too and unintentionally they are more tolerant to him(here everyone in my group agrees). But if we are talking about same-aged people, they don't see it and usually asking, how the hell did he get this grade, when he didn't even do/know much?