Do one of their Samurai miniatures next. I bought a box of Warlord's Samurai and I've painted two and both came out less-good than I thought they would. My brain can't wrap itself around the process of painting them well.
I have to say, I think you've rapidly become my favourite painting channel on TH-cam. The variety of models you paint is fantastic - don't get me wrong, I like Warhammer as much as the next person but you've inspired me to also pick up historical miniatures from other manufacturers. I think maybe some pike and shot troops might be going on my list next!
Very kind of you to say, thank you. 😁 I've long been a fan of Warhammer in its varied forms, but likewise I think there's a whole raft of miniatures, games and historical periods out there which wargamers would love if they'd just get a look at them!
Funny that you mention how awful Basic Skintone is, because I'm extremely fair-skinned (Scottish/Irish ancestry with Ginger dad) and I keep making the mistake of comparing my skin tone mixes to my own skin and thinking 'yeah that looks about right', and a lot of the time if I don't go out of my way to darken and saturate the color they look like the Da Vinci Code albino.
I suppose it goes to show that just because you don't know anyone who's the same colour as a skin tone out of a pot, it doesn't necessarily mean it's not accurate! ...still, Vallejo being a Spanish company, I can't imagine they know anybody quite that pale, either. 😂
There's a lot going on with these guys! I was a little hesitant about how to approach them until a bunch of different resources basically said, "These were all more or less the same colour." Leave that for a shade to figure out. ;)
just fantastic! i dont know if i told you but i finally finished the first 20 infantry (imperial guard) in your paint scheme the zandri dust spray base coat with the castellan green and cadian flesh ,,, leadbelcher,,,black celestra grey agrax earthshade etc. they look soooo good! i m so pleased with myself! i have built another 20 and will be basecoating them today or tomorrow! and starting the process again! thank you so much for an easy scheme they turned out phenomenally well! i hope everything is good in your world and that you keep up the good work these pinting videos really inspire a lot of people and youre so helpful its unreal. thank you sir!
i am beyond happy they are the first minis i have painted since i was a kid i painted some slaanesh quickly a few years ago but i didnt know what i was doing and theyre literally just one colour and they arent good quite embarrassed about them to be honest! but this squad i really tried on and theyre just fantastic thank you for everything you do. i will keep watching your videos loyally!
The absolute brass ones it must have taken to stand there after the first volley and go through a twenty second reloading motion before you can take another crack at the enemy!
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio For sure! I just can’t imagine how they did it. And then to face a bayonet charge right after. They were clearly a different breed back then.
Cheers, Lee! I always like having the chance to dip back to the historical topics and have a bit of fun with the research. It carries on the trend of 'Uniform isn't!' no matter how far back you go. ;D
Hi great to see some speed painting that looks good on historical figures Ive looked all over youtube and your the only one doing the speed painting to get your army on the table fast and covering all genres great work keep it up thanks
Your "dealy-boppers" are 'charges'. Apocryphally, they're called 'apostles,' but that was a Victorian affectation to add some religiosity to the wars. They're premeasured charges of gunpowder for loading and priming. You can also knock out those charges with colors, if you want. Sometimes they were leather-clad, other times painted, but most frequently just raw wood as you did there. Good job on the mini!
Outstainding Musketeer sir! The best part of painting the 17th Century is that the Uniform was not really standard for the armys. Back then you had your everyday cloth wearing in battle. Not until the end of 17th Century armys started to use standard uniforms for their armys. This makes it so you can paint your entier army in all kind of diffrent colors. But yes some main colors where used for the catholics and protestants armys. Like Red for catholics as standard. I lost count on how many musketeers I have painted by now. Thank you and keep up the good work sir, take care. 👍
I'd rather enjoyed reading up on Wallenstein figuring out that the easiest way to make reliable uniforms for his troops was to use undyed linen! Which, after his assassination, would carry on to the Austrian forces under the Habsburgs. Cheaper, too. :D
Haha I totally agree, I was actually talking to someone about that recently. I really am disappointed with Vallejo skin color. I like army painter they give you a four or so skin colors that work well together. But YeA i was underwhelmed when I first used it and I really like most of Vallejos model color range. Also in army painters warlord games range they have Caucasian skin and it's awful it looks almost white when you use it......and not like white people white the color lol
I used Army painter Ultramarine spray can in order to save some time on my Swedish P&S army, as it is a nice shade of blue for the Swedish "Blue Regiment" & works well with the Army painter blue wash as the base colour. My troops are not as colourful as yours, but painting 300 figures + horses to that standard would take way too long.
Good shout! I'd thought of using Crystal Blue since I had it to hand, but it seemed a little too rich in colour. Ultramarine Blue works far better, I'm sure.
this is just my opinion, you do an excellent and vibrant paint job and I feel you ruin it with the all over wash/shading. It takes away all the contrast and makes the figure look dirty like it's been smoking crack behind a dumpster on a binge for four straight days. I used to do it like You, since I learned how to paint initially from Your videos, but since I've adjusted to using shades only in the creases, lines like in Space Marines for examples or in the folds of the figures clothing. But I much rather use a highlight paint and a shadow paint for that. The newer Bolt Action figures have a lot of folds compared to the older sets.
I have to admit, I'm not seeing the behind-the-dumpster binge look on this guy, but it might be my eyes! The purpose of these methods isn't to achieve the best-looking result, but something easily replicated and reasonably quick. It's entirely possible to paint much more nicely, but I haven't the time to lavish on individual miniatures for the purposes of knocking out an army - a quick wash does half the work for me, and then highlight.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio to each his/her own method. I just much rather enjoy looking at your figure before the wash is applied. it goes from looking like a million bucks to thrift store look lol. have you ever painted up samurais?
The term apostle for the charging bottles was a victorian era term and wasn't used during the 17thC, the charging bottles hung from a bandoleer or bandilier. Nice figure.
They were called apostles. They contained the powder for a shot, I'm not sure but all the ones I've seen have been made from wood. Nicely painted though
Nice! I recently became obsessed with the Sludge War ruleset (from Blaster issue 3), which is an odd mix of late Medieval - Renaissance - 30 Years War - Napoleonic era - American Civil War, and these "oddball" tutorials are quite useful. The hard thing is to go crazy on the muddy weathering after you've painted a whole company worth of minis...
I've got Sludge sitting on my hard drive, I just need to find the time to actually paint it! The look feels as though someone took Turnip28 and Blanchitsu and smashed them together... :D
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio It is indeed! And the unholy joy of smashing together bits from modern sets with minis that don't really belong, gifts you with charging ussars with pickelhaube helmets and gasmasks slinging PPSh-41 submachineguns, or 1800 afghan warriors with jezzails, stelhandgranates, and fully enclosed Agincourt helmets plus napoleonic backpacks. Plus, it's a fun game to play, which is never a bad thing.
They are called chargers, together with their belt they were called bandoliers. The 'apostle' term was popularised by the Victorians. The number of chargers carried by a musketeer depends upon the bore of the musket. 12 bore muskets had 12 chargers which held 1/12th of a pound of powder. 14 bore muskets would necessitate 14 chargers. There is absolutely no contemporary evidence to support the name 'apostles' being in common usage in the C17th; the term is a one-off comedic description made in 1678 (March 1678, The Diary of Henry Teonge, published 1825) and, unsurprisingly, popularised by the Victorians.
@@mikechetham Imagine my surprise that the Victorians would just make stuff up...! 😂 The notes on how bore would change according to the weight of the powder is super useful to know, too!
Might I suggest looking up KeepYourPowderDry, loads of brilliant ECW research and background on there. Coat colours in particular (and there's references).
Wow I love this guy, he really pops! I got in to painting WW2 historicals off the back of your videos and now I'm after something a bit more colourful. I'm pretty unsure about this period of history though, and find the range of plastic box sets a bit bewildering
I actually found it pretty useful to start from the Warlord Games site, just checking out the boxes, and if anything catches your eye head on over to Wikipedia and start with the overview article on the period. Usually the easiest way to get the basics straight in your head!
Thank you from the heart of my bottom for posting this tutorial :-D I was desperately looking for some minis to paint up as my Edge Watch troops for my own fantasy collection (I write my own sci-fi/fantasy stories, so buy minis that inspire me or fit into whatever I'm writing at the time), and seeing this being painted has found me buying a LOAD of them (Cavalry and Infantry) from a supplier online. You made such an impression on me with this video that I am now excited again about my hobby, and cannot wait for my new purchases to arrive, so I can mix and match the figures to what I imagine my Edge Watch troops look like :-). Thank you again for posting this, as it's re-ignited my passion for painting figures again, after painting a whole horde of magical creatures to go along with my collection.
I've not heard 'heart of my bottom' in a very long time. 😂 I'm really glad to hear you've got your groove back, though! It's one of those things where sometimes you just need the right nudge and you're on the right track again.
Really enjoyed this, thanks. I'm sure this has been covered elsewhere, but what's the make and size of brush you're using? I think 80% of my frustration with painting is over brushes, even when I'm using the pricy ones.
For the most part, I use either Army Painter or Citadel brushes. Most of this guy was done with either an Army Painter Regiment or Character brush - they're pretty reliable, and last a decently long time if you look after them.
Hi dude! Lovely vid! I subbed as a result! Anyhow, and by the by, I think the powder flasks were referred to as the twelve apostles (maybe ECW period specific, not sure).
T'was 'cos I love ya stuff bub! I like your subtle but economic style. So many figures get their festoonery painted within an inch of their a*se. Then when one ranks them up they look like a bag of vibrating sick. Do you have any massed army pictures or videos?
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Do one of their Samurai miniatures next. I bought a box of Warlord's Samurai and I've painted two and both came out less-good than I thought they would. My brain can't wrap itself around the process of painting them well.
Watched "By the Sword Divided" not that long ago, I might just have to get into Pike & Shotte now... ;)
I've read the English referred to the small powder flasks as "the Twelve Apostles". Can't speak for other nationalities though.
Spanish Tercios their musketeers called that way
I really like your videos, my only problem is that you are making it seem so easy :)
Great job anyway!
It's easy if you don't overthink it, I swear! ;D
The model kinda reminds me of musketeers
I have to say, I think you've rapidly become my favourite painting channel on TH-cam. The variety of models you paint is fantastic - don't get me wrong, I like Warhammer as much as the next person but you've inspired me to also pick up historical miniatures from other manufacturers. I think maybe some pike and shot troops might be going on my list next!
Very kind of you to say, thank you. 😁 I've long been a fan of Warhammer in its varied forms, but likewise I think there's a whole raft of miniatures, games and historical periods out there which wargamers would love if they'd just get a look at them!
Funny that you mention how awful Basic Skintone is, because I'm extremely fair-skinned (Scottish/Irish ancestry with Ginger dad) and I keep making the mistake of comparing my skin tone mixes to my own skin and thinking 'yeah that looks about right', and a lot of the time if I don't go out of my way to darken and saturate the color they look like the Da Vinci Code albino.
I suppose it goes to show that just because you don't know anyone who's the same colour as a skin tone out of a pot, it doesn't necessarily mean it's not accurate!
...still, Vallejo being a Spanish company, I can't imagine they know anybody quite that pale, either. 😂
Really enjoyed this, great change from the usual. Would be great to see more like this!
The 12 apostles, which were usually made of wood and could be painted in other colors
I think "deeleebopper" is the official term! Lol!
That's a really nice mini, great job as always mate and thank you for showing us minis from different companies. These guys look really detailed 👌
There's a lot going on with these guys! I was a little hesitant about how to approach them until a bunch of different resources basically said, "These were all more or less the same colour." Leave that for a shade to figure out. ;)
The word you're looking for is apostles.
the teeny bobber thingies are called apostles
Spinning musketeer is making me dizzy.
Amazing stuff on your site but can you tell us where the plant/flowers on the miniature base came from?
These are the self-adhesive tufts from Games Workshop. Nice and simple!
Laughing thanks for the quick response !!
just fantastic!
i dont know if i told you but i finally finished the first 20 infantry (imperial guard) in your paint scheme the zandri dust spray base coat with the castellan green and cadian flesh ,,, leadbelcher,,,black celestra grey agrax earthshade etc. they look soooo good! i m so pleased with myself! i have built another 20 and will be basecoating them today or tomorrow! and starting the process again! thank you so much for an easy scheme they turned out phenomenally well! i hope everything is good in your world and that you keep up the good work these pinting videos really inspire a lot of people and youre so helpful its unreal. thank you sir!
Really glad to hear it! Even better that they're working out for you and the method is giving you results you're happy with. :D
i am beyond happy they are the first minis i have painted since i was a kid i painted some slaanesh quickly a few years ago but i didnt know what i was doing and theyre literally just one colour and they arent good quite embarrassed about them to be honest! but this squad i really tried on and theyre just fantastic thank you for everything you do. i will keep watching your videos loyally!
Great painting what's your mixeror for strong tone wash and mixing media in your bottle how many drops to make it up
It's straight 1:1 - I squirt a bottle of Strong Tone and Medium into the larger bottle and add an agitator, then it's good for months. :D
Is that the hole bottle for each of strong tone and mixing media
Yep! Just mix the whole lot, you'll definitely end up using it all.
Literally just planned out a Pike and Shotte army, I swear you’re psychic
Muwaha-haaa! I have my sources. ;D
Now that was cool. 😎. What is cooler than the 3 Musketeers?!? Really cool to learn about that time of history. Cheers 🍻
The absolute brass ones it must have taken to stand there after the first volley and go through a twenty second reloading motion before you can take another crack at the enemy!
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio For sure! I just can’t imagine how they did it. And then to face a bayonet charge right after. They were clearly a different breed back then.
Nice one Troy.
That sword was called a 'short-tuck;.
Excellent stuff as always. I enjoyed that.
Cheers, Lee! I always like having the chance to dip back to the historical topics and have a bit of fun with the research. It carries on the trend of 'Uniform isn't!' no matter how far back you go. ;D
Hi great to see some speed painting that looks good on historical figures Ive looked all over youtube and your the only one doing the speed painting to get your army on the table fast and covering all genres great work keep it up thanks
Your "dealy-boppers" are 'charges'. Apocryphally, they're called 'apostles,' but that was a Victorian affectation to add some religiosity to the wars. They're premeasured charges of gunpowder for loading and priming.
You can also knock out those charges with colors, if you want. Sometimes they were leather-clad, other times painted, but most frequently just raw wood as you did there. Good job on the mini!
Outstainding Musketeer sir! The best part of painting the 17th Century is that the Uniform was not really standard for the armys. Back then you had your everyday cloth wearing in battle. Not until the end of 17th Century armys started to use standard uniforms for their armys.
This makes it so you can paint your entier army in all kind of diffrent colors. But yes some main colors where used for the catholics and protestants armys. Like Red for catholics as standard. I lost count on how many musketeers I have painted by now. Thank you and keep up the good work sir, take care. 👍
I'd rather enjoyed reading up on Wallenstein figuring out that the easiest way to make reliable uniforms for his troops was to use undyed linen! Which, after his assassination, would carry on to the Austrian forces under the Habsburgs. Cheaper, too. :D
The containers were called the 12 apostles and contained the charges for the muskets.
Haha I totally agree, I was actually talking to someone about that recently. I really am disappointed with Vallejo skin color. I like army painter they give you a four or so skin colors that work well together. But YeA i was underwhelmed when I first used it and I really like most of Vallejos model color range. Also in army painters warlord games range they have Caucasian skin and it's awful it looks almost white when you use it......and not like white people white the color lol
I used Army painter Ultramarine spray can in order to save some time on my Swedish P&S army, as it is a nice shade of blue for the Swedish "Blue Regiment" & works well with the Army painter blue wash as the base colour. My troops are not as colourful as yours, but painting 300 figures + horses to that standard would take way too long.
Good shout! I'd thought of using Crystal Blue since I had it to hand, but it seemed a little too rich in colour. Ultramarine Blue works far better, I'm sure.
this is just my opinion, you do an excellent and vibrant paint job and I feel you ruin it with the all over wash/shading. It takes away all the contrast and makes the figure look dirty like it's been smoking crack behind a dumpster on a binge for four straight days. I used to do it like You, since I learned how to paint initially from Your videos, but since I've adjusted to using shades only in the creases, lines like in Space Marines for examples or in the folds of the figures clothing. But I much rather use a highlight paint and a shadow paint for that. The newer Bolt Action figures have a lot of folds compared to the older sets.
I have to admit, I'm not seeing the behind-the-dumpster binge look on this guy, but it might be my eyes! The purpose of these methods isn't to achieve the best-looking result, but something easily replicated and reasonably quick. It's entirely possible to paint much more nicely, but I haven't the time to lavish on individual miniatures for the purposes of knocking out an army - a quick wash does half the work for me, and then highlight.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio to each his/her own method. I just much rather enjoy looking at your figure before the wash is applied. it goes from looking like a million bucks to thrift store look lol. have you ever painted up samurais?
@@MF-kv8cn I haven't done samurai yet, but I don't know what to tell you. If I paint any for the channel, they're going to get washed. 🤷♂️
Love the historical stuff
The wooden powder bottles were known as ‘The twelve apostles.’ Great tutorial as always. I’d love to see your take on modern multicam.
The term apostle for the charging bottles was a victorian era term and wasn't used during the 17thC, the charging bottles hung from a bandoleer or bandilier. Nice figure.
They were called apostles. They contained the powder for a shot, I'm not sure but all the ones I've seen have been made from wood. Nicely painted though
Nice! I recently became obsessed with the Sludge War ruleset (from Blaster issue 3), which is an odd mix of late Medieval - Renaissance - 30 Years War - Napoleonic era - American Civil War, and these "oddball" tutorials are quite useful.
The hard thing is to go crazy on the muddy weathering after you've painted a whole company worth of minis...
I've got Sludge sitting on my hard drive, I just need to find the time to actually paint it! The look feels as though someone took Turnip28 and Blanchitsu and smashed them together... :D
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio It is indeed!
And the unholy joy of smashing together bits from modern sets with minis that don't really belong, gifts you with charging ussars with pickelhaube helmets and gasmasks slinging PPSh-41 submachineguns, or 1800 afghan warriors with jezzails, stelhandgranates, and fully enclosed Agincourt helmets plus napoleonic backpacks.
Plus, it's a fun game to play, which is never a bad thing.
I really like the blue of his jacket, a beautifully painted miniature 👍
Great tutorial, any chance of getting you to do a ECW Cav one? Please
This is amazing! I've been thinking of doing a Louis XIII army for quite a while now :D
Good stand in for warhammer fantasy empire troops?
If you like the look, then sure.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio i like the designs just wasn't sure how well they'll look side by side. Bought a box to try!
Great to see some 17th century minis. Would be perfect for Blood & Plunder.
The powder holders were called Apostles
Ha! I knew somebody would know the answer to that one. :D Much obliged!
They are called chargers, together with their belt they were called bandoliers. The 'apostle' term was popularised by the Victorians. The number of chargers carried by a musketeer depends upon the bore of the musket. 12 bore muskets had 12 chargers which held 1/12th of a pound of powder. 14 bore muskets would necessitate 14 chargers.
There is absolutely no contemporary evidence to support the name 'apostles' being in common usage in the C17th; the term is a one-off comedic description made in 1678 (March 1678, The Diary of Henry Teonge, published 1825) and, unsurprisingly, popularised by the Victorians.
@@mikechetham Imagine my surprise that the Victorians would just make stuff up...! 😂 The notes on how bore would change according to the weight of the powder is super useful to know, too!
Thanks Mike Always good to learn new stuff
Might I suggest looking up KeepYourPowderDry, loads of brilliant ECW research and background on there. Coat colours in particular (and there's references).
Fantastic work as always! I always enjoy your channel and I learn new painting techniques all the time.
I am so excited to see this! I recently caught the pike and shotte fever and decided to get a box! Such great timing👍👍
Wow! Amazing paint job. So jealous lol
Very good painting. Love the base color very similar to mine.
Wow I love this guy, he really pops! I got in to painting WW2 historicals off the back of your videos and now I'm after something a bit more colourful.
I'm pretty unsure about this period of history though, and find the range of plastic box sets a bit bewildering
I actually found it pretty useful to start from the Warlord Games site, just checking out the boxes, and if anything catches your eye head on over to Wikipedia and start with the overview article on the period. Usually the easiest way to get the basics straight in your head!
Thank you from the heart of my bottom for posting this tutorial :-D I was desperately looking for some minis to paint up as my Edge Watch troops for my own fantasy collection (I write my own sci-fi/fantasy stories, so buy minis that inspire me or fit into whatever I'm writing at the time), and seeing this being painted has found me buying a LOAD of them (Cavalry and Infantry) from a supplier online. You made such an impression on me with this video that I am now excited again about my hobby, and cannot wait for my new purchases to arrive, so I can mix and match the figures to what I imagine my Edge Watch troops look like :-). Thank you again for posting this, as it's re-ignited my passion for painting figures again, after painting a whole horde of magical creatures to go along with my collection.
I've not heard 'heart of my bottom' in a very long time. 😂 I'm really glad to hear you've got your groove back, though! It's one of those things where sometimes you just need the right nudge and you're on the right track again.
Really bang up job on this one.
He has twelve wooden containers for loads of shot. Who famous had twelve good friends? Yep! Those are twelve wooden apostles.
BTW: I forgot to mention this is an awesome tutorial! Thank you for sharing!
Very helpful - thanks.
Pike and Shot videos!!! 😍
Really enjoyed this, thanks. I'm sure this has been covered elsewhere, but what's the make and size of brush you're using? I think 80% of my frustration with painting is over brushes, even when I'm using the pricy ones.
For the most part, I use either Army Painter or Citadel brushes. Most of this guy was done with either an Army Painter Regiment or Character brush - they're pretty reliable, and last a decently long time if you look after them.
@@SonicSledgehammerStudio Thanks!
Now there's a blast from the past.
"If you see someone who is this colour, you call an ambulance" 🤣🤣🤣
Anyone that pale needs a trip to the mortician, or a stake through the heart! 😂
Hi dude! Lovely vid! I subbed as a result! Anyhow, and by the by, I think the powder flasks were referred to as the twelve apostles (maybe ECW period specific, not sure).
Thanks for the sub!
T'was 'cos I love ya stuff bub! I like your subtle but economic style. So many figures get their festoonery painted within an inch of their a*se. Then when one ranks them up they look like a bag of vibrating sick. Do you have any massed army pictures or videos?
Thank you , Sonic .