Thanks for the memories. When I was in the Navy, we made a port call to Portugal and I remember some of the landmarks in this video. Glad I stuck around. - John C.
@@rcgrabbag I wanted your opinion on something. I’m thinking about making a very small model railroad more like a working diorama. It’s only about 3.5’-4.0’ long. I want to be able to run one of my Dad’s favorite small locomotives. One end will be a tunnel deep enough to hide the locomotive and the other end a small, old locomotive “shed”. Is it possible to do something like this without having the track looped? I’m going to call it “The End of the Line” and dedicate it to my late father who absolutely loved trains of all types (real and model) Thank you, Dennis Brown 🚂
As I retired to Portugal a few years ago it was lovely to see some of the places that I know and love being featured in your video. 🇵🇹 I enjoyed your whole presentation and take my hat off to you for the work and dedication which has gone into this project. The bridge is truly amazing. I am in awe of your talents.
I seem to recall that you had access to a model such as this when you were a member of a model railroad club some years ago. I was impressed then but even more so with this edition. I also admire the trestle work but my hands are too shaky now for such fine detail work. Many thanks for sharing.
Awesome trip! We visited living relatives in Germany for our 10th anniversary, caught Austria, and a touch of France while we were there, Portugal and Spain would have been nice!!!
@@rcgrabbag I have been watching your layout from the beginning. I'm just blown away, beautiful layout design. Love the Steam Locomotive 🚂, the trestles . Looking forward to seeing the new video
Great video! I really am loving watching you build your layout, thanks for bringing us along, and I am so excited to watch you start doing more scenery
When I was younger, I would watch many peoples' layout updates and how-to videos. I lost interest as the years went on - but your layout videos are absolutely fantastic. Thanks for making these!
Really enjoyed the updates on the layout but I must say that I'm green with envy regarding your travels. For now, my wings have been clipped but l hope to someday again travel abroad and visit wonderful lands such as Portugal.
Excellent instructions for building the bridge. Your patience has severed you well with beautiful builds. You have the skill most of us can only wish to have. Thanks for taking us along for the ride. I also enjoyed you taking us along on your vacation to Portugal.
Thank you for another great update! What I like most about your approach is the very clear and detailed documentation of how and why you approach each engineering issue involved in creating a masterpiece. I hope to have my own space ready in 2 years to start a similar sized layout. Your videos are saved for future reference. Happy holidays! Jim
Another spectacular bridge and Portugal was beautiful with incredible architecture. That turbine was magnificent, amazing details and the sound of the turbine was overwhelming, as I’m sure it was in the prototype. I also enjoyed the sound of the horns on the loco. Thanks for another wonderful video and I appreciate that the time span between videos was reduced, the videos and layout are so intriguing that we would like a video every week.
Enjoyed the video. I’ve also been to Lisbon and saw the Pena Palace. It brought back a lot of memories. Would love to go back someday. Hope you brought home some Port!
Bridges make a layout and you have some amazing bridges! The Diablo Canyon bridge is still accessible with permission from the tribe, at least it was a few years ago. Lots of BNSF traffic over that bridge. I believe some remnants of the original wooden trestle bridge are still visible. Beautiful turbine! UP wasn't afraid to try different technologies back in the 50's and 60's.
Has always another great video, but seeing my home city from the eyes of another person I see it in a different way, makes me see the beauty that I'm use to and rarely appreciate, hope You have like it. ❤🙏
I have seen some great model railway stuff but your timber trestle bridge is something else - fantastic work. I am looking forward to seeing it bedded into the scenary
i hope you keep up this momentum, we need more progress and vids! 2 years since season 3 started, 4 years since the layout was finalized, and barely any progress beyond bridges made me think you had given up on it for a long time
That's some really nice work. Full marks for patience, too! The only thing I would like tp gently point out to people is that wood bridges had a load limit well short of steel ones, and it looks a bit (to put it mildly) strange to see a Big Boy or DD40 rolling across a tall wood trestle. The days of mainline wood trestles were pretty much over by the time heavy steam locos showed up. Something to keep in mind - or not care about, as it's your railroad!
That’s certainly true in the general sense but there are a few examples of tall wood trestles used well into the diesel era. Holcomb Creek trestle comes to mind. Rare example for sure. Goat Canyon is another. But if your doing prototype railroading, a mainline wood trestle in the later years would be difficult to find. CSX was using a short wood trestle into the 90s somewhere but not sure where.
Something you should consider before spouting off about timber trestles, or even equipment, what is or was the axle loading allowed? Many times the axle loading of a tender was higher than the locomotive it was attached to. Most standard wood pile or framed wood trestles were built with bents of 10 to 15-foot spans, depending on when they were built. The spans of most railroads were in the 14, 14.5, and 15-foot lengths as getting stringers of 8 X 16 and 9 X 16 over 30 feet long were very hard. The biggest problem with wood trestles is fire and then the maintenance of the wood. The second biggest reason for the demise of wood for trestles was the use of trains of 100-ton cars that would punch the piles into the caps of the bents. If you are going to have to put concrete caps on the bents, you might as well build the whole bridge out of concrete or steel and have much longer spans.
Your videos are truly terrific. I’m also a perfectionist, and I greatly admire your attention to detail, as well as your artistic approach to running the trains and building the scenery. Cheers to you, and a very happy new year!
That locomotive is beautiful wow. Also, if having a laser cutter but not the right clamps isn’t a perfect summary of the DIY/Hobbyist struggle, I don’t know what is!
I really like your layout. Sometimes I envy you for the space (and also the money) you have for your model railway as well as for your other hobbies. The UP #80 is a very beautiful locomotive. Unfortunately the Division Point models are not available outside Northern America, so for me living in Germany they are out of reach. I didn´t even manage to find a price for this beauty.
I have an old wooden trussel by my house and it's just a marvel. Nothing special but it's a big sumbich and hard to imagine a bunch of goons building it.
Great. Nice to see Lisbon and Sintra again. I was there 25+ years ago. I remember at Pena Palace they had a very strict no cameras policy. Pretending I didn't understand didn't work, all cameras had to be left at the door. Are they more relaxed these days ?
no you are the layout LORD.because after this christmas im gonna make a layout but on chirstmas i get parts to make my first model train.and then thats why you have saved my future planes of an layout. so thank you.
Fantastic video, where can I find the design of a double track curved trestle please , I’m looking forward in seeing the rest of the building Kind regards Jonathan from Australia
Hi thanks for watching! Sorry there really is no "design" other than the template I made for creating the curved bent alignment jig, which is specific to the trestle I built that has a ~42" radius. The bents follow a pretty common template that you can find on the interwebs, and then create your own curved jig like I did for whatever radius you need. Let me know if you have any more questions!
How many stringers did you plan for each track and did you intentionally omit the spacing spools between the stringers? Kudos for having support bents under each end of the truss span. Since the trestle is a framed one, when doing the scenery, the bents need to be on concrete, stone, or piles with a cap or header for support.
There are two sets of three stringers each under each track. I did omit the spacers. Not all trestles had them and they would be completely hidden from view anyway, so not worth the added effort. Thanks for watching!
I am a very early and inexperienced beginner, and I am VERY interested in the actual construction of the bridge arches and the texturing of the brick surface. My desire is to recreate the arched red brickwork as seen in the movie "The Polar Express" as the train approaches the North Pole. I'd like to put this around my Christmas Tree every year, so it should be easy to set up and tear down every year. Of course, this also means that the bridge will be curved. ANY tips/tricks/advice would be helpful and appreciated!
At some point yes. I will be doing a review of the Glacier Park brass Big Boy. For now, here’s a video I did years ago on our now defunct club layout th-cam.com/video/6Aqw0DFkqZU/w-d-xo.html
Oh man, that's something I should have mentioned in the video. It BARELY negotiated my maximum radius of 44 inches, but failed on my minimum of 40 inches. And all my curves are superelevated. The main culprit is the center section with the two sets of drivers being coupled, but the lead unit isn't far behind because of all the detail that gets in the way of pivoting.
Thanks! I am by nature a tinkerer. Just been doing the hobby building off and on throughout the years. I spent a few hours a day for about a week assembling the bridge.
How fragile are then bents? It's also interesting to me that the turbine car has it's ends rounded while the back of the main cab and the tender are square instead. I wonder if there is information on why the proto unit was made like that.
The one with the rounded ends was made from the frame of ex-GN W1 class electric loco. It came originally from the GE factory like that in the late 1940s.
Very nice video! Quick question about the staining.What kind of stain did you use on the wood for the trestle bridge? Did you mix it yourself? Regards, Paul
May I ask what tour service you used for your Portugal trip? It looked very well done. Love the train videos. I have a Marklin collection in boxes. Maybe someday I'll get them back out and set up a layout.
WOW 2 videos in 3 weeks he has spoiled us
I'm doing my best! Thanks for watching!
@@rcgrabbag no thank you for making great content
@@rcgrabbag do u plan on hiding the wiring on your layout.
WOW!!!! That has to be the coolest sound I’ve ever heard for a model train engine!!
I think so too! The horn sounds amazing too!
This is the best channel for armchair modeling!
Haha thanks!
I think that’s one of the best model trains I’ve ever seen. Would look even better weathered
Please make more content on the layout!
Thanks for watching. I am working on another video.
This layout huge!
This is true!
Your skill for building bridges is just amazing 👏 😮
Welcome back. Thank you for filming and sharing.
Thanks for watching!
And Portugal looks BEAUTIFUL!!!
Great sound, great handwork, great video ! Thx !
Thank you too!
Thanks for the memories. When I was in the Navy, we made a port call to Portugal and I remember some of the landmarks in this video. Glad I stuck around. - John C.
Glad you enjoyed!
Absolutely awesome video. Fabulous bridge, looks great.
Many thanks!
@@rcgrabbag I wanted your opinion on something. I’m thinking about making a very small model railroad more like a working diorama. It’s only about 3.5’-4.0’ long. I want to be able to run one of my Dad’s favorite small locomotives. One end will be a tunnel deep enough to hide the locomotive and the other end a small, old locomotive “shed”. Is it possible to do something like this without having the track looped? I’m going to call it “The End of the Line” and dedicate it to my late father who absolutely loved trains of all types (real and model)
Thank you,
Dennis Brown 🚂
Wow, amazing work. Love the Union Pacific Turbine.
Thanks a lot!
all 3 parts of the video were amazing
Glad you enjoyed!
As ever a very good video and some expert modelling, thank you.
You are very welcome!
As I retired to Portugal a few years ago it was lovely to see some of the places that I know and love being featured in your video. 🇵🇹 I enjoyed your whole presentation and take my hat off to you for the work and dedication which has gone into this project. The bridge is truly amazing. I am in awe of your talents.
Thanks for the very kind words and glad you enjoyed the video!
Turbine was magic! So was trestle bridge. Hanging out for the scenery.
Very kind, thanks!
I seem to recall that you had access to a model such as this when you were a member of a model railroad club some years ago. I was impressed then but even more so with this edition. I also admire the trestle work but my hands are too shaky now for such fine detail work. Many thanks for sharing.
Yes, that was the Overland Models version. I still have it. I had to do the DCC on that one myself. I'm glad this one came with it preinstalled!
Awesome trip! We visited living relatives in Germany for our 10th anniversary, caught Austria, and a touch of France while we were there, Portugal and Spain would have been nice!!!
So cool!
Welcome to Lisboa and Europe ! HI from France
Thanks! Back to Europe again today for F1 Monza!
Awesome!! So happy there’s another video so quickly!!
Trying my best! Glad you enjoyed!
Stunning bridge and layout. Your videography of surrounding sites is TV professional! Subbed, now need to catch up on vids.
Glad you enjoyed and thanks for the sub!
It better be perfect for $7,000. Beautiful trestle, just beautiful.
Fantastic trestle bridge, the locomotive sounds great. The scenery, buildings was fabulous, thanks for sharing. The architecture was stunning
Many thanks!
@@rcgrabbag I have been watching your layout from the beginning. I'm just blown away, beautiful layout design. Love the Steam Locomotive 🚂, the trestles . Looking forward to seeing the new video
YOUR AWESOME WORK ALLOWS ME TO ENJOY WHAT I NEVER COULD HAVE DONE FOR MYSELF ... THANK YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU !!!
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoy it!
Great video! I really am loving watching you build your layout, thanks for bringing us along, and I am so excited to watch you start doing more scenery
Glad you enjoy it!
Your craftsmanship is just outstanding sir!!!!!
Thank you very much!
That bridge is really impressive. For the locomotive. Well that is really impressive aswell
Building a trestle reminds me a lot of building a wooden roller coaster.
That would be a neat video
Great looking trestle.
Thank you! Cheers!
When I was younger, I would watch many peoples' layout updates and how-to videos. I lost interest as the years went on - but your layout videos are absolutely fantastic. Thanks for making these!
Glad you enjoyed! More to come!
Beautiful job!
Thank you!
Really enjoyed the updates on the layout but I must say that I'm green with envy regarding your travels. For now, my wings have been clipped but l hope to someday again travel abroad and visit wonderful lands such as Portugal.
Yes, at least we are able to do it now without all the restrictions. Thanks for watching!
Excellent instructions for building the bridge. Your patience has severed you well with beautiful builds. You have the skill most of us can only wish to have. Thanks for taking us along for the ride. I also enjoyed you taking us along on your vacation to Portugal.
Thanks for the kind words and glad you enjoyed!
Thank you for another great update! What I like most about your approach is the very clear and detailed documentation of how and why you approach each engineering issue involved in creating a masterpiece. I hope to have my own space ready in 2 years to start a similar sized layout. Your videos are saved for future reference.
Happy holidays!
Jim
Awesome, thank you!
14:08 I'd suggest also getting a progress powered rerailer for that. It also functions as a track strainer as well.
Thanks I’ll check it out 🙂
Another spectacular bridge and Portugal was beautiful with incredible architecture. That turbine was magnificent, amazing details and the sound of the turbine was overwhelming, as I’m sure it was in the prototype. I also enjoyed the sound of the horns on the loco. Thanks for another wonderful video and I appreciate that the time span between videos was reduced, the videos and layout are so intriguing that we would like a video every week.
Thanks for watching! I don't plan on any super long gaps between videos, but it will likely be every few weeks.
Super cool layout, nice work.
Thanks!
Enjoyed the video. I’ve also been to Lisbon and saw the Pena Palace. It brought back a lot of memories. Would love to go back someday. Hope you brought home some Port!
Thanks! Yes we brought home the wine!
Bridges make a layout and you have some amazing bridges! The Diablo Canyon bridge is still accessible with permission from the tribe, at least it was a few years ago. Lots of BNSF traffic over that bridge. I believe some remnants of the original wooden trestle bridge are still visible. Beautiful turbine! UP wasn't afraid to try different technologies back in the 50's and 60's.
Neat! Thanks for watching!
That’s ridiculous. Excellent work ✊🚂🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thanks!
Beautiful!
Has always another great video, but seeing my home city from the eyes of another person I see it in a different way, makes me see the beauty that I'm use to and rarely appreciate, hope You have like it. ❤🙏
Yes it was great! Glad you were able to see my video!
@@rcgrabbag I try to see it all.
I have seen some great model railway stuff but your timber trestle bridge is something else - fantastic work.
I am looking forward to seeing it bedded into the scenary
Many thanks!
Wow. That was a super cool bridge. Great Job. Always look forward to your videos.
Thank you very much!
Great video, thanks. Impressive trestle construction. That locomotive is an absolute beast! Enjoyed the Portgual section.
Thanks glad you enjoyed!
wuaoooo awesone wonderfull congratulations
Thank you so much
Quite impressive. 👍👍👍👍
Awesome bit of machinery you have there...something tells me you love your bridges😁🍻
You got that right!
Really enjoyed the video, particularly haven't two different sections... modelling and travelling. Excellent! Subscribed.
Awesome! Thanks for the sub!
I don't see how anyone could ever consider weathering one of these UP No80s. Very nice work on the layout and viaduct.
Thanks!
Mad Skills. Raw Talent. New Subscriber !!!!
Thanks for the sub!
Painting the sides of the rails so they look rusty can add even more realism,just a suggestion, awesome layout
Thanks for watching! Yes, sides of the rails are painted a custom mix for a rusty effect. Check out my previous track weathering video.
Just amazing! Greetings from Brazil!!!
Thanx for the new video. Amazing work!
Thanks!
Well done 👏 love the detail,would love to have one someday
i hope you keep up this momentum, we need more progress and vids! 2 years since season 3 started, 4 years since the layout was finalized, and barely any progress beyond bridges made me think you had given up on it for a long time
Should be regular progress from now on, but you know, life, best laid plans, etc., all that stuff...
That Gas Turbine is a beautiful locomotive.
Thanks for watching!
Amazing coal turbine!
It sure is!
Beautiful video of Portugal. We had to cancel our trip there in 2020 for obvious reasons. Hope to get there in ‘23.
Trestle looks great!
Been a couple years since traveling outside the US. Hope you're able to make your trip! Thanks for watching!
That's some really nice work. Full marks for patience, too! The only thing I would like tp gently point out to people is that wood bridges had a load limit well short of steel ones, and it looks a bit (to put it mildly) strange to see a Big Boy or DD40 rolling across a tall wood trestle. The days of mainline wood trestles were pretty much over by the time heavy steam locos showed up. Something to keep in mind - or not care about, as it's your railroad!
That’s certainly true in the general sense but there are a few examples of tall wood trestles used well into the diesel era. Holcomb Creek trestle comes to mind. Rare example for sure. Goat Canyon is another. But if your doing prototype railroading, a mainline wood trestle in the later years would be difficult to find. CSX was using a short wood trestle into the 90s somewhere but not sure where.
Something you should consider before spouting off about timber trestles, or even equipment, what is or was the axle loading allowed? Many times the axle loading of a tender was higher than the locomotive it was attached to. Most standard wood pile or framed wood trestles were built with bents of 10 to 15-foot spans, depending on when they were built. The spans of most railroads were in the 14, 14.5, and 15-foot lengths as getting stringers of 8 X 16 and 9 X 16 over 30 feet long were very hard.
The biggest problem with wood trestles is fire and then the maintenance of the wood. The second biggest reason for the demise of wood for trestles was the use of trains of 100-ton cars that would punch the piles into the caps of the bents. If you are going to have to put concrete caps on the bents, you might as well build the whole bridge out of concrete or steel and have much longer spans.
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Your videos are truly terrific. I’m also a perfectionist, and I greatly admire your attention to detail, as well as your artistic approach to running the trains and building the scenery. Cheers to you, and a very happy new year!
Glad you enjoyed and thanks for watching!
you are a layout LORD
Haha thanks! I am not worthy!
So enjoyable. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
That locomotive is beautiful wow. Also, if having a laser cutter but not the right clamps isn’t a perfect summary of the DIY/Hobbyist struggle, I don’t know what is!
Simply amazing! Wish I had a laser cutter like that at my disposal.....
Thanks!
I really like your layout. Sometimes I envy you for the space (and also the money) you have for your model railway as well as for your other hobbies.
The UP #80 is a very beautiful locomotive. Unfortunately the Division Point models are not available outside Northern America, so for me living in Germany they are out of reach. I didn´t even manage to find a price for this beauty.
$5,375 for the set
👍
Really like trestle bridge
Baller Life 💪🏾
I have an old wooden trussel by my house and it's just a marvel. Nothing special but it's a big sumbich and hard to imagine a bunch of goons building it.
Great video, all of it.
Glad you enjoyed it!
The locomotive was very nice but the bridge is amazing 😳👍👍👍
Thanks so much!
Season three here we go!
i live in portugal and its honestly quite amazing
Z całego serca dziękuje za motywacje do pracy sam próbuje wykonać, ale jeszcze długa droga Pozdrowienia DIORAMALuk
Great. Nice to see Lisbon and Sintra again. I was there 25+ years ago. I remember at Pena Palace they had a very strict no cameras policy. Pretending I didn't understand didn't work, all cameras had to be left at the door. Are they more relaxed these days ?
I guess they are more relaxed as the cell phone snaps by other guests were plentiful. Thanks for watching!
OOOOOoooooooooooowwwwwwweeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!! goes the turbine!
Looks like you have two models of the coal turbine 👍🏻
no you are the layout LORD.because after this christmas im gonna make a layout but on chirstmas i get parts to make my first model train.and then thats why you have saved my future planes of an layout. so thank you.
Awesome!
Awesome!!👌🏻
Thanks! 😁
Fantastic video, where can I find the design of a double track curved trestle please , I’m looking forward in seeing the rest of the building
Kind regards
Jonathan from Australia
Hi thanks for watching! Sorry there really is no "design" other than the template I made for creating the curved bent alignment jig, which is specific to the trestle I built that has a ~42" radius. The bents follow a pretty common template that you can find on the interwebs, and then create your own curved jig like I did for whatever radius you need. Let me know if you have any more questions!
REALLY ????? Your train room is bigger than my house !!!!!!! LOL !!!! I'm so jealous 🥺
How many stringers did you plan for each track and did you intentionally omit the spacing spools between the stringers?
Kudos for having support bents under each end of the truss span.
Since the trestle is a framed one, when doing the scenery, the bents need to be on concrete, stone, or piles with a cap or header for support.
There are two sets of three stringers each under each track. I did omit the spacers. Not all trestles had them and they would be completely hidden from view anyway, so not worth the added effort. Thanks for watching!
amazing. Love the idea of having one, of course not this fabulous...
Thank you! Cheers!
Wow! Amazing! Can you share your track plan?
Thanks! At some point I will but it’s changed since the early drawings.
I am a very early and inexperienced beginner, and I am VERY interested in the actual construction of the bridge arches and the texturing of the brick surface. My desire is to recreate the arched red brickwork as seen in the movie "The Polar Express" as the train approaches the North Pole. I'd like to put this around my Christmas Tree every year, so it should be easy to set up and tear down every year. Of course, this also means that the bridge will be curved.
ANY tips/tricks/advice would be helpful and appreciated!
Well, I think if I were to do a similar project, I would build the main structure out of wood, foam and use plastic brick sheets for the exterior.
Amazing!!
Thanks!!
These videos are great, thank you for uploading.
What are the chances of a Union Pacific Big Boy locomotive for this layout?
At some point yes. I will be doing a review of the Glacier Park brass Big Boy. For now, here’s a video I did years ago on our now defunct club layout th-cam.com/video/6Aqw0DFkqZU/w-d-xo.html
Love the coal turbine!!! What’s the minimum radius it can navigate?
Oh man, that's something I should have mentioned in the video. It BARELY negotiated my maximum radius of 44 inches, but failed on my minimum of 40 inches. And all my curves are superelevated. The main culprit is the center section with the two sets of drivers being coupled, but the lead unit isn't far behind because of all the detail that gets in the way of pivoting.
@@rcgrabbag thx for the info. I looked for it and found an Athearn version, and they claimed 18 inch…
@@rcgrabbag nevermind, it was a gas turbine loco…
You do magnificent work. What is you background? What is your prior experience with tools? What is your estimated time so far on this project? Thanks.
Thanks! I am by nature a tinkerer. Just been doing the hobby building off and on throughout the years. I spent a few hours a day for about a week assembling the bridge.
How fragile are then bents? It's also interesting to me that the turbine car has it's ends rounded while the back of the main cab and the tender are square instead. I wonder if there is information on why the proto unit was made like that.
The one with the rounded ends was made from the frame of ex-GN W1 class electric loco. It came originally from the GE factory like that in the late 1940s.
Thank you for the video. How can I find the size and type wood that you used for the bridge? How can I find a pattern to make the bents?
I would just search for ho trestle bent jig. There are a couple in google search results and videos on youtube.
I'd love to collect all north American turbine locos
Wish the coal turbine was in plastic.......I would definitely buy it!
Very nice video! Quick question about the staining.What kind of stain did you use on the wood for the trestle bridge? Did you mix it yourself? Regards, Paul
It was a mix of your various Minwax stuff. Some jacobean with a lesser amount of like a honey brown color.
What stain did you used on the trestle bridge?
With detail like that I can understand why it's taking so long. I started with the garage build.
How many times did you glue your fingers to the cross braces when gluing them with the CA!
Every time haha!
May I ask what tour service you used for your Portugal trip? It looked very well done. Love the train videos. I have a Marklin collection in boxes. Maybe someday I'll get them back out and set up a layout.
It was a trip my wife's financial services company put together and I get to tag along. They always do a great job arranging special events.
Your trestles look amazing. What kind of wood did you use and where did you get the plans?
The wood is basswood. I didn't use plans per se, but rather the Black Bear fixture for the bents and laser cut howe truss bridge.