Cordona PQ8 Quick Shifter Installation on the 2019 ZX6R
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 มิ.ย. 2019
- Because the stock OEM quick shifter on the Kawasaki ZX6R does not work with race pattern shifting, Dave installs a Cordona PQ8 strain gage quick shifter on his new motorcycle.
NOTE: If your bike requires use of the X Leads like our ZX6R did, the X Leads must be clipped onto the SHORTEST of the Cordona harness leads. You'll see them connected that way in the video, we just failed to state it specifically. No performance bonus for Moss this month. - กีฬา
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I’m addicted to your channel. One thing I really think you could benefit from is a small not so powerful 3/8 impact. For me, disassembly takes half the time and I’m angry when I don’t have a charged battery lol
I will look for one online! Great suggestion thnx!
Word of advice to Dave and anyone else, When hooking up the battery, POSITIVE FIRST! There are safety issues for doing this, if the negative cable is attached first, any tools touching the positive to bolt it down can come into contact with the frame and will short. If negative is done last, you cant short the positive because its still open circuit and if any tools touch the frame while attaching the negative, its fine because the frame is ground anyways. When taking off the battery cables, its the exact opposite, Negative first and for the same reason.
Correct.
Abso-bloody-lutely!
I seriously think D.M.T. Is one of the most underrated channels on TH-cam, why doesn’t he have more subs!? He continuously drops knowledge and not just hearsay and opinions!
Thank you! I hoped we would be well over 150k, but I will keep working at it. Maybe because the content is too cerebral and not entertaining enough is perhaps the most probably cause?
Hey Mate. Just for your interest. You can install the PQ8 harness with shortest wires either at 1st or 4th coil. But really great video by the way! Keep up the good work
Excellent demonstration
Brilliant video!
Thanks for that video 📹
I really enjoyed work of that specialist!
Greetings from sunny Scotland !
Thank you for an informative video.
I'm curious, can it auto blip on down shifts too and what extras would be connected to the 'bat wing'
The Cordona cannot auto blip - that is done via the ECU remap if available internally, or via another sensor. The Bat Wing is the shift light that sits on top of the dash.
Great video as always, I'm curious, why such a big ECU vs some other units? Also saw that the kill time is static with no options over RPM or gear, is there any automatic adjustment it does based on load, gear etc?
Thanks for the kind words. Honestly I have no idea why the ECU has that proportion. You set kill time and pressure/force manually. I have not read yet about any self learning capacity with the ECU. I'll have to dig a little deeper into the product beyond what the website supplies.
Hi Dave!
Thanks for the video! How much this shifter will cost? I heard that other option is that you have to change the rearset (SATO RACING) to make the stock shifter work. Which option would you recommend if you notice the price, how much work it has to be done etc? Rearset is little bit more expensive but it is a lot less work than switching the shifter like you did in this video?
Thank you!
Joonas - the clearance was going to be the issue against the frame so I chose to go a different route with the Bonamici product. In the long run, I found that to be a better and more cost effective solution. .
The Daytona comes with a OHLINS,QUICK SHIFTER UP AND DOWN WITH AUTO BLIPPER,TRACK ABS, BREMBO all the good stuffs for track..
In ZX6R we have to upgrade all the goodies..
So which one should I choose, zx6r or Daytona??
I need some guidance..😃
You should have got the Woolich flashing system which uses the same Cordona strain gauge and shift road, all done thru the ECU. Tons and tons of extra wire not needed, air box removal not needed, control box not needed.
Excellent post - thank you for that as I am sure it will help a lot of people who watch this video.
I followed you video step by step on my 2021 ZX-6R but I can’t get the ECU to turn on at all. I throw the ignition and it’s just not powered at all. I switched out the battery to a lithium ion one, could that cause there to be less power available?
Loving your videos, only halfway though and thinking all this for a quick shifter! Too bad Kawi engineers did not think things through on this design. Are other MC maker quick shifters like the Kawi?
It is just the ZX6R shifter that will not reverse without hitting the frame.
Dave, is it possible to switch the bike to GP shift with the PQ8 already installed?
Great video as always. If I disconnect the battery will the computer save my settings? Or will reset everything?
Great question. We did not test that to see what would happen. I will not be near the bike for a few weeks. If you do this, please share the results to help other Cordona users. Thanks!
OK Dave ! Greetings from Poland mate!
Have asked at cordona and they said that when You disconnect the battery the PQ8 will save the settings. So no worries!
this might seem like a silly question, but is it really that big of a deal to have the bike speedshifter in race configuration as opposed to street?
it is difficult to shift when accelerating out of a corner while still in a lean angle body position
I use GP Shift on the track as I much prefer it personally. Many very famous racers used regular/street pattern with no issues so it is not a big deal at all. In real terms, it is what makes you comfortable or what makes the most sense.
Dave Williams, editor, replying here. Mat Mladin used street pattern his entire career. Watched some Josh Herrin onboard video recently and it appears he runs street pattern. I've run both and prefer street because it's more important that the downshifts be easier than the upshifts given a choice between the 2.
Nice tree view in the back.
Hi Dave
Why did you choose Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6r over the Daytona 675r?
Can you please help me choose a bike for track days!!
1. Price at $8,000 new, zero miles. 2. It fit me better 3. Easy and cheap upgrades for forks and shock (revalve only) 4. Never had one so it was a great bike to share everything I learned for geometry, settings etc.
Hello Dave, I have a 2023 ZX-6R (non-ABS) that I am turning into a track-only bike. Do you know of anyone that has installed the Cordona PQ8 Quick Shifter on the newer bikes? I will be installing rear sets to run GP shift. Many thanks for a great video!
I believe the 2023 is the same as my 2019? If so, the Cordona video would be correct. Is the quickshifter different for the 23?
I used the Dynojet dual contact shifter, know I have warning lights ⚠️. Can you tell me anything that will help to delete the OEM shifter? Thank you, all the best.
As you can see from the video, we made the changes and did no more than that. I am sure that an ECU reflash will give you many more options in this regard.
I thought those screws were JIS. Or is that just what the screw driver head is called? Japanese Industrial Standard or something like that.
You are correct sir! They are indeed JIS
what model is it? 210b - PQ8 Combo Quickshifter For DENSO and Mitsubishi Coils or 211Faston - PQ8 Combo Quickshifter. Conventional Coils
Dave Williams, replying, here. Sorry, sorry. It's a PQ8 (I'll amend the title). As for coils, the issue never arose so I don't know. Maybe Moss knows.
@@CatalystReactionSBW yes beacause they are both PQ8 its just that one is 210b and the other is 211Faston...
Williams replying again. 210b
@6:40 its the maf sensor!
Good
I have the same systheem to my 2010 z1000. I connected it as you video and it is also the same as the instructions. Now the problem is my model keeps beeping like something wrong or wrong connected. I also connected the X correctly because the color code is the same for you. I don't understand what I did wrong. Can you help me please
Please send me an email Raoul to dave@davemosstuning.com
@@CatalystReactionSBW
I have sent you 2 emails greetings from Belgium
@@raoulwouters7074 Hi Raoul. I sent you 2 replies, the last one from Cordona. Here is the last one: As I understand it from Michael’s information, the PQ8 unit is seeing what it thinks is a short in the shift sensor. This is why it shuts down after 1 minute.
By switching the sensor settings back to T1 (open loop) this should be the solution. I have attached a photo of the procedure from the manual which the customer should have.
Please let me know if that worked 😊
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Dear Dave,
I found out that my cordona chifter censor was normally a 2 pin plug instead of a 3 pin with the same wires. My dyno tuner unplugged it and turned it into a 3 pin. The wire color is the same green on the left, brown and white in the middle and yellow on the right when you look at the plug along the click. Is the sensor shorting because it is normally a 2pin sensor and now a 3 pin is made? Did they give me the wrong sencor?
www.ngrracingproducts.nl/nieuws/cordona-quickshifter-voor-alle-supermoto-modellen-leverbaar
@@raoulwouters7074 Supermoto is a single cylinder vs your 4 cylinder and you should be using a shift rod sensor for a road bike vs a peg sensor for a dirt bike. Given this information, it is best that you contact NGR Racing Products directly to see if they will exchange the Cordona Unit.
Who needs an impact wrench when you're Dave Moss? Did you see how fast his hands get those bolts out? 😁
prjgrudge lol - I’ve also noticed the precision and speed of his manual labour.. although this time I suspect Dave Williams is responsible for the speed part 😂
Isn't it JIS for Japanese industrial standard?
Correct.
Ground is first off last on.
how to lower a bike?
The products I prefer come from this company (I have no association with them financially): soupysperformance.com/ Once the lowering link(s) are installed, the forks must be changed by a similar amount
48K views and only 562 likes ,,,,really Hit the Fuxin like button folks,,
JIS Japanese Industrial Standard. Not JAS.
Dave Williams, editor, replying here. I wonder what the Japanese call it.
@@CatalystReactionSBW 😂
8:20, somebody been watching golf mates?
No sir...... while i enjoyed "speed golf" in the past as a charity event with our rugby club, I don't play the game.
@@CatalystReactionSBW I mentioned because of the "cheese & rice" comment. Thr golfmates youtube channel's host says that constantly.
Anyways I really enjoy your channel!
Never really got why people feel the need to flip there shifters like what the hells wrong with the way it is already 🤷🏻♂️
Nothing is wrong with street pattern at all. At the track, it is less risk to upshift if you push down with your foot as it cannot get trapped at full lean, nor can your foot get bumped by the track and involuntarily move the shifter at full lean. Many great racers use street shift but we all have a choice and some of us prefer GP shift.
Those are some great points Dave I appreciate you summing that up for me man. Now I definitely understand why some may gravitate towards running that setup. I probably still wouldn't run it my self. But yeah I could see people fearing a accidental snag in a lean or a wheel lock up at 2-300kmh
I personally don't see the point of gp shifting.
Many will take your stance but those that ride track (via experience) will support GP shift pattern due to minimizing risk and catching/trapping feet on the ground at lean.
Kawasaki must be worst bike to work on, I know they are getting better. Just changing my spark plugs on my ZX-14 takes about 3 hours having to use my girlfriend hands to turn the ratchet, just no room. Dont get me started on simple job at getting at your battery.
The videos would all be better without the camera mans comments. Imo
Clutch don’t have to go in that’s Suzuki.
I have a question. What person would buy 2019+ zx6r ? It is so damn ugly and some people are gonna say "well it depends on your taste", if you like the way zx6r 2019 looks you are fuking blind as a bat.
Great video, camera guy's humor is bad and so is his camera work.
Dave Williams, camera guy, replying here. Now I cry.
Hahaha....rugby wimp....
Dave, is it possible to switch the bike to GP shift with the PQ8 already installed?
If there is room to turn the shift arm over and clearance for the shift rod etc, then yes that is possible. As per video, always do the mock up first for assessment.