@@mattybt400 eck. Chuck the ego. Even as a millennial I know to listen to someone who's probably forgotten more about the sport than ill know in my lifetime. Sometimes it takes a hard tone to instill the knowledge in thick skulls. Humble keeps you on the saddle.
Yes I did go out at 11:51pm to go check my levers, and yes I will be adjusting them in the morning. Great video, it's silly that we don't think of these things.
The bliss of riding your bike that fits like a glove and is set up perfectly for you is heaven. Been riding/competing for 55 years - still found this vid informative!
I believe it. I’m 5’, 100-110 lb and have super small hands, feet, everything. I was worried about how I’d flatfoot anything or how to handle the weight but day 1, I almost gave up due to upper body ergonomics especially my hands. I have nerve pain in outer fingers and wrist so I expected to have some trouble maybe but it was so bad I couldn’t focus. My ergonomics isn’t perfect now but now I am on a bike I can reach and control the levers and it made a huge difference.
@@glenholmgren1218 I also ride MTBs, which really does not fall far from Motorcycling in terms of fit, comfort and adjustments. I find that in MTB Bike fit is more highlighted than in motorcycling. I adjust my levers the same way on my MTBs and brought it to my motorcycle. I also learned how to tune suspensions through MTB which has a lot more configurations like rebound, damping, preload, etc.
This is so fundamentally beneficial, yet criminally overlooked. Despite the urge to sell & send, every dealership should teach the new rider & tailor the bike for them. Like Geico, 15 minutes can save you 15% or more on motorcycle ergonomics.
It's funny, I'm a bicycle geek. Bike riders of all levels obsess over bike fit. But you hardly hear about it with motorcycles this is the first video I've come across.
Not really... Most bikes are barely adjustable, that's because it's completely different setup from a car, it's more universal. Body adapts naturally to motorcycle just like on bicycle, all you need is right motorcycle. Those minor few degree adjustments barely change anything during the ride.
If I may say, as a person who has worked in the bicycle industry, as well as someone who rides thousands of miles each year for the past 40+ years, it is common on a bicycle, whether it’s road or mountain, for an rider, and or pro shop who wishes their customer to have the most amount of comfort and ergonomic efficiency and safety, to adjust the following parts on a bike: handle bar width and rise/drop; stem length and rise/drop; brake lever position and reach; crank arm length; width distance between pedals; seat height, fore/aft, and tilt positions. Nearly all of the above transfers to a motorcycle, be it street or dirt. At least, that’s what I have done for my Moto and Sportbike set-ups. With all that being said, everyone has different degrees of tolerance, so what may be acceptable to one rider (knowingly, or unknowingly), may not be for another.
Watching this guy is like breathing some fresh air, totally invigorating and inspiring. Teachers like these are few and far between, we must cherish him.
Yep. I had just a couple situations where I had to grab the frontbrake and always thought: why do I open the throttle? This is helpful. Never thought that you could also adjust the position of the bar, only thought I could change the lever... Thnx Dave!
Perfect, thanks for sharing all that knowledge. I own a motorcycle dealership in Pakistan and do all these settings for all new motorcycle owners, all the credit goes to you. All the riders are amazed and always tell me they never knew all these adjustments could be made.
This video's a perfect example of "I would have loved to have know that sooner". I'm sure most riders can relate to that. Thanks a bunch for this. Also, what's taught through this video can transfer to buying a bike too, there's a reason why some say to choose the right bike for you. Cheers 👍
Heck no!!! All bikes are different bruh nawww it should be a part of the class as a teaching aide but not mandatory. Nobody is this technical when riding motorcycles but people who 🏁. Its good to know but not necessary.
@@MicMurphy1981 mmm yes sure, so when the riders don't understand ergonomics and have a completely aching body position, their knees rub which distracts them, their arms cramp from angled wrists, they can't brake properly because of a cramp and because of too-wide bars they over-steer and have a head on with a semi-trailer. I believe at least the basics of this video should be explained, so many riders stop having uncomfortable riding experiences and just thinking that's one of the downsides of owning a bike, and make them realize they can MAKE it comfortable and much safer.
New riders already have so so much to think about, they shouldn't also have sharp things hitting their knees, steering difficulties from un-adjusted bars, and losing some of their control from aches and cramps. It can be fatal for the beginners!
I think importance of ergonomics should be highlighted more from the beginning. Ergonomics is important for everyone but if you’re at the outer edges of the normal distribution wrt riding population re size/weight/shape you it may make your ride especially unsafe or even impossible. A beginner does not know that and well meaning friends and enthusiasts and motorcycle dealerships usually tell you it’ll all be OK. For short riders sometimes it’s mentioned but usually it’s all about inseam/flat footing. But you need to be reaching levers comfortably and feeling them well. I am petite all over and will probably always have some concerns re ergonomics and need adjusting. But I didn’t know that because people (men) kept telling me they “ understand exactly how it is” for me based on being 5’8” and having ridden a tall adv or dual sport or something. It is so not the same thing! When it was so much harder for me just to even get on any bike, I was discouraged. I even almost gave up on day 1 because of the bike I was on in my MSF class - I could flatfoot but my upper body is shorter and the levers were so far and the clutch had an angle I could barely hold and overall my arms were too so short so even turning was difficult. After an hour or two it became so painful and numb it was distracting and eventually unsafe. I realise now that isn’t normal and is adjustable but wish I had understood.
13:04 that right there hits me in the spot 😂😂😂 yeah, always buying those colored bolts, smoked windshield, exhaust, first before even the most important stuff 😂😭
This guy is a master of his craft, I feel the same way he does when I see people riding bicycles, usually their seat is too low or too high, or the bike is just too big or small for them in the first place! I have been cutting handlebars for people with pipe cutters for years, and adjusting brake levers, makes all the difference.Great video, thank you!
After watching your teaching suggestions on this excellent video-- I recently went for a test ride on a few different Honda bikes at a main dealership -- each bike would have needed almost all or some of your suggested adjustments to be comfy and safe--the salesman was totally unaware of the need to adjust anything as Honda would have set bikes up totally correct for any bike and thought I was not right even suggesting any adjustments would be necessary-- so it proves that bad set up starts at test ride and goes on until teachers like yourself explain to us the need to do this - Dave thanks for making my bike riding a lot safer.
Thank you for your post! It would have been interesting to see the salesman and his reaction to "What glove size are you? So this is set up for small to XXL hand sizes?" Nothing wrong with asking a question as you never know where that question will take the recipient.
Brilliant. So simple and sensical but absolutely overlooked. Plus, I love how he politely tells folks to “hush up” in the beginning. Every minute spent with this guy is an gift.
I've been riding my Yamaha r3 for over a year now, always thought it was awkward grabing the clutch lever. Went outside and adjusted it can't wait to see what the next ride will be like.
Thank you Dave! I've had constant hand numbness that I attributed to a dislocated rib injury from a while ago, no idea why I didn't think to adjust the controls! I really appreciate your expertise!
This is easily the most intuitive video I have seen in terms of motorcycle ergonomics. I've owned 3 bikes so far and never knew any of these things. Being 6'5 and size 14 shoe I thought I just had to get used to being uncomfortable but this video has taught me otherwise. Great work.
Thank you for using the video to see how you can make yourself more comfortable. Do not forget a 2-3" taller seat to open up your knee angle and make sure the new seat is flat not curved.
I’ve been riding for 20yrs and never thought about some of these things. I feel like such an idiot 😅. Love hearing from experienced guys like Dave Moss
I rode for 20 years and did what I was told by my father:- car engine oil in the forks and up the preload for a passenger. We all start somewhere and everything from that point on is a bonus. Enjoy your journey and where possible, please pay it forward with your experience and knowledge gained.
This is a masterclass in the biomechanics of riding. As a strength coach, I loved the down-to-earth teaching style with straight-forward language/demos. Beautifully executed explanations. Liked and followed!
First thing I bought for my bike was gas! Second, chain lube... Third, windscreen. There was already one installed, looked good but not very aerodynamic. To come: helmet (better aerodynamic, yes my neck doesn't like wind pressure) and a seat that will change my sitting position. The suspension is now set. I'm going in the garage right away to fine tune the hand control ergonomics. Thank-you Dave to help me and my motorcycle perform better!
Thanks to you I, someone who's been on a bike for 1,800KMs in total, know just how adjustable bikes can be for each rider. I'm 6'5 and my R3 isn't a perfect fit, and since watching your videos I'm quickly becoming aware of what needs changing. Thank you, man! :]
I'm really impressed by seeing your first video, I don't know what exactly people think... Really you have a tons of knowledge to share to most of the people. I appreciate your hard work and hats off..🍻
I learned from the Corvette owner's video how to set my seat position. What a difference it made. Knee slightly bent with brake mashed, THEN set the wheel position. This video is GOLD!
it still astounds me why there are so many that just don't know this so Big Thumbs up to Dave for helping people get the most fun and safety out of their bikes! The first thing i do when i get a new bike - usually every 3-4 years with about 35k km every year... from the showroom floor bikes are stuck together by someone that puts all the bits where they should be i.e. wheel on the axle, handlebars on the triple clamp but that's as far as it goes.
This is a good wake up call for the younger gen even most young adults, about proper bike and automotive use most like the fancy cool upgrades but do not have control over there bike or car
I have been riding an ill-fitted bike for 30 yrs.... how humbling. I finally bought the Ducati of my dreams and this info has inspired me to get it dialed in. The wrist fix.... wow! what a difference!~
Hi Jared. Thanks for using the videos on ergonomics to help you get comfortable. Do not forget to check ankle alignment to hip joint and also that your ankle is more than 90 degrees at the top of the shift up stroke.
thank you for the nth repeat of ergonomics each video from previous is an improvement and as freemium is a god sent. I do miss Mr Williams intro though. :)
Dave is a gift to riders. I rescently took delivery of a new bike and I rode it for about 30min and my left wrist was aching and cramping so bad it ruined my riding experience. Thanks to this video I know exactly what is the cause and now I feel empowered to address the problem, I am so excited!
When I got my bike new no one told me this, but thankfully I bought custom handlebar shortly after and fitted all in and adjusted by the feel to have it ergonomic, but only because I changed the handlebar, otherwise, I would also be like everyone else not adjusting most likely, This should be really explained by the dealership. Great Job!! Thanks a lot!
Great video but would it not be better to setup the hands with gloves on? The tiny little difference the leather/goretex makes can negate these fixes, if perfection is the goal?
This is awesome . I'm happy I'm seeing this shortly after getting my first bike and only getting 200 miles on it. Now I can see the proper way to adjust it. Awesome video thanks!
Hi Dave, thanks for great info and so clearly presented. Going to take your ergonomic ideas to each of my bikes to make them more comfortable. When I got my Tracer 900 the first thing I had to do was adjust the rear brake lever and gear lever position, the factory position suited somebody with a Size 1 shoe, not my size 10 riding boot. Thanks for the great and very helpful videos.
SUBSRIBED. you deserve it. Never seen anyone literally ANYONE bfore i bought my bike to tell me that we need to adjust our bike accordingly. i only buy adjustable footrest so i could hold and grip my bike tank properly. Now, i had find all the reason of pain when i go out and ride. Thank you so much. much love from Malaysian rider.
Excellent video. I'm 6'8" and watched this hoping I could get some pointers. Intuitively, I already adjusted my brake and handlebar shift lever by a lot because my arm angle to them is ridiculously high. Also, I had to buy an extended shift lever for my size 15 boots. The problem I now have is that standing up on my dual sport bike is very unstable. Bar risers helped a little, but I need to buy lowering pegs and a taller seat.
Thanks for sharing this with me. I suffered from shoulder pain after riding my z900 and didn’t know were from it came. I changed everything after seeing this video and now it’s a hole different and better feeling with more fun without pain. Thank you, Sir. 🙏🏻
Your website has woke me up. My V7 111 was rock hard. I backed off 6 full turns on the rear shocks. Now I have forgiveness. I weigh 175 , it most of been set for a beast. No give. No free play. Clutch and front brake fit like a glove. The Guzzi is rather limited but, now it is a improvement. Thank you.
KISS Method at it's truly finest hour and I too agree w/jerseyboy90 that analogy of the rental car is spot on. Best 18:55 minutes in my busy world in a long time. Thank you Dave for your wisdom and teaching me something new!!
Got a new bike last week. Already did a tail tidy, slip on, reflector delete, tank grips, quadlock, and windscreen. Have not once thought about adjusting my levers! GET OUT THERE AND ADJUST YOUR LEVERS!!! 🏍
Thank you so much for this video. As a new rider I couldn’t understand why I was having trouble with grabbing the clutch lever without moving the position of my arm. Great explanation. Thanks!
I bought a brand new bike 2 weeks ago and just rode it as it was. Watched this and what a difference it made. A couple of adjustments here and there and it has made my riding much more comfortable. 195cm and 125 Kg, went for a cruiser style and just lever positioning alone made it so much more comfortable.
Been watching your content for a while, there's no one in your ball park around still to this day, I've seen with your knowledge. - thank you to the two riders for contributing, using there bikes for examples👍
Thanks for the kind words - they are very much appreciated. Saving a life every day makes all this work very important to me to empower others to "have a go" and not settle for any stock setting. A very happy, safe and prosperous New Year to you!!
I started missing some shifts, very annoying and I couldn't figure why. Never had problems on this bike before. After watching this vid I figured it out. I have installed clip on handlebars and that lowered my angle of the tip of my foot by leaning forward. So I wasn't shifting with "enough" travel/ power. It took me a while to figure this out. I lowered my shifter pedal and problem was fixed ! Thank you, you are a genious ;)
Being a big head the only thing I did to my 1000 triumph daytona was buy adjustable levers....but after watching expert dave I will be looking for shocks set up as well ,gr8 vids dave thank you 👍
All very logical and a must for comfort and safety. Analogy with my bicycle took over an hour to adjust many point to enable cycling for 4-5 hours of comfort and safety. Great video and explanations.
I talk to Dave a bit and he is a legend when you watch this video you know that lever position is so important and foot position. I love dont move your rental car seat for the life of the rental
I figured this out on my own just now before even watching this video. I was sitting on my bike just earlier adjusting my headlight beam and thought what about my lever positions as well. So I adjusted them just like I’m the video. I will go back out to recheck them since I’ve watched this video. Very good info.
I wouldve thought everyone did this when they first get a bike. Like no way I'm using whatever jank settings were set from the previous owner. I set them up to what feels good as soon as I get it home and then fine tune it over the first few rides.
Zen master, Dave!! I find most folks who have done motocross for a while, are more likely to adjust the bike to fit them. Bang on about injuries and having to adjust your body,
I'm not tall and had ergonomic problems on most bikes. (due to spine problems) I ride a GL1800, this should be a super comfortable bike but there is not much adjustable. Thanks to this video I started adjusting things like sitposiion (using the backrest) and brake/clutch levers angle. That helped a lot, I could not drive more then an hour to get uncomfortable, Sunday I rode 2 hours and nothing did hurt and the next day no backpain and headache. So thank you very much, I wished I knew this 40 years ago.
Amazing what a little ergonomic experimentation will do for comfort and pain free riding. A tip of the hat to you for getting to work with your sleeves rolled up.
I come from a bicycle racing background and making the bike fit you is second nature for me. I had no idea that people sat on motorcycles that didn't fit them. This video blew my mind. I even take a socket set and allen keys to the dealers when going to sit on a prospective new bike. If the bike don't fit then I must a-quit... and go look at something else.
I love Moss's teaching style. Very old school. Feels like he's insulting you but it's for YOUR benefit. Very dad like.
Very insulting is right. He's an arrogant prick.
@@mattybt400 Pretty much what I saw
old school?! Pretty mellow style for old school. Seems good at explaining things. Not at all an "arrogant prick" What insults?
@@mattybt400 eck. Chuck the ego. Even as a millennial I know to listen to someone who's probably forgotten more about the sport than ill know in my lifetime. Sometimes it takes a hard tone to instill the knowledge in thick skulls. Humble keeps you on the saddle.
Amazing. I have learned so much. Moss, I am applying these techniques today. Hopefully my numb wrist will be gone. Thank you very much.
Yes I did go out at 11:51pm to go check my levers, and yes I will be adjusting them in the morning. Great video, it's silly that we don't think of these things.
I feel that so hard xD
Not silly, we have to learn from somewhere. He’s just been doing this forever, and he has made fine tuning his world.
and it sounds even more silly talking about it, but he's right, I happen to look at my levers the other day and they were way out of reach.
9:48pm rn, and I'm finna runnin' straight up to my bike🏃♂️
I did the same thing 😂😂 I don’t know why I didn’t think of it when he talked about the rental car scenario, but it’s such a no-brainer!
That rental car analogy was SPOT ON! Never really crossed my mind until he brought it up- fantastic vid as always
i hope you dont ride...
I DO hope you ride and that you will enjoy it immensely.
@@henkondemand yeah the more simples on the road the better !
I agree with Jersey boy, I wish I had heard that analogy earlier, the more you think about it the more it makes sense.
@@friendshippage8074 Nothing wrong with being honest
The bliss of riding your bike that fits like a glove and is set up perfectly for you is heaven. Been riding/competing for 55 years - still found this vid informative!
And thanks a lot for being honest !!
I believe it. I’m 5’, 100-110 lb and have super small hands, feet, everything. I was worried about how I’d flatfoot anything or how to handle the weight but day 1, I almost gave up due to upper body ergonomics especially my hands. I have nerve pain in outer fingers and wrist so I expected to have some trouble maybe but it was so bad I couldn’t focus. My ergonomics isn’t perfect now but now I am on a bike I can reach and control the levers and it made a huge difference.
I think importance of ergonomics should be highlighted more from the beginning and for short riders how it’s not just about inseam/flat footing.
@@1chienandalou Bike Shops do a sh!t job of it
@@glenholmgren1218 I also ride MTBs, which really does not fall far from Motorcycling in terms of fit, comfort and adjustments. I find that in MTB Bike fit is more highlighted than in motorcycling. I adjust my levers the same way on my MTBs and brought it to my motorcycle. I also learned how to tune suspensions through MTB which has a lot more configurations like rebound, damping, preload, etc.
This is so fundamentally beneficial, yet criminally overlooked.
Despite the urge to sell & send, every dealership should teach the new rider & tailor the bike for them. Like Geico, 15 minutes can save you 15% or more on motorcycle ergonomics.
It's funny, I'm a bicycle geek. Bike riders of all levels obsess over bike fit. But you hardly hear about it with motorcycles this is the first video I've come across.
@@TRDBucket cyclists are extremely anal about fitment.
well they should teach you when you are getting the license
@@Halfbittenjalapeno Cyclists (no matter what discipline) are just anal about everything especially water bottle holders and weight.
@@TRDBucket I totally agree with you.
Everyone who wants to ride a motorbike should see this video first!
Erik Diemer yes!!! Couldn’t agree more ❤️
@@badgerman23 When teaching someone how to drive... you set up the controls and make them use and find all the others when you say its name.
Not really... Most bikes are barely adjustable, that's because it's completely different setup from a car, it's more universal. Body adapts naturally to motorcycle just like on bicycle, all you need is right motorcycle. Those minor few degree adjustments barely change anything during the ride.
I am!! hehehe
If I may say, as a person who has worked in the bicycle industry, as well as someone who rides thousands of miles each year for the past 40+ years, it is common on a bicycle, whether it’s road or mountain, for an rider, and or pro shop who wishes their customer to have the most amount of comfort and ergonomic efficiency and safety, to adjust the following parts on a bike: handle bar width and rise/drop; stem length and rise/drop; brake lever position and reach; crank arm length; width distance between pedals; seat height, fore/aft, and tilt positions. Nearly all of the above transfers to a motorcycle, be it street or dirt. At least, that’s what I have done for my Moto and Sportbike set-ups. With all that being said, everyone has different degrees of tolerance, so what may be acceptable to one rider (knowingly, or unknowingly), may not be for another.
Watching this guy is like breathing some fresh air, totally invigorating and inspiring. Teachers like these are few and far between, we must cherish him.
Everyone who watched this video.... "M gonna adjust those damn livers right away"....
It's 00:42 where I am right now, and I just went out to check my levers. Definitely needs adjusting
You bet!!!
I adjust my liver every night, with anywhere from 4 to 8 beers!
Yep. I had just a couple situations where I had to grab the frontbrake and always thought: why do I open the throttle? This is helpful. Never thought that you could also adjust the position of the bar, only thought I could change the lever... Thnx Dave!
Maximus Max 😂
Perfect, thanks for sharing all that knowledge. I own a motorcycle dealership in Pakistan and do all these settings for all new motorcycle owners, all the credit goes to you. All the riders are amazed and always tell me they never knew all these adjustments could be made.
Thanks for sharing Owais - Is there a shop in Pakistan that rents heavy sports bikes ?
Good to see a dealer who will go the extra mile for customer service, good on you mate 👍
@@AM._.. Touring bikes are available in Islamabad, usually tourists avail this service to visit northern areas.
@@soliddiesel7 Thank you 🙏🏻
This video's a perfect example of "I would have loved to have know that sooner". I'm sure most riders can relate to that.
Thanks a bunch for this. Also, what's taught through this video can transfer to buying a bike too, there's a reason why some say to choose the right bike for you. Cheers 👍
Great perspective and thank you for your comment.
This should be standard training for getting your license
Heck no!!! All bikes are different bruh nawww it should be a part of the class as a teaching aide but not mandatory. Nobody is this technical when riding motorcycles but people who 🏁. Its good to know but not necessary.
@@MicMurphy1981 mmm yes sure, so when the riders don't understand ergonomics and have a completely aching body position, their knees rub which distracts them, their arms cramp from angled wrists, they can't brake properly because of a cramp and because of too-wide bars they over-steer and have a head on with a semi-trailer. I believe at least the basics of this video should be explained, so many riders stop having uncomfortable riding experiences and just thinking that's one of the downsides of owning a bike, and make them realize they can MAKE it comfortable and much safer.
New riders already have so so much to think about, they shouldn't also have sharp things hitting their knees, steering difficulties from un-adjusted bars, and losing some of their control from aches and cramps. It can be fatal for the beginners!
I think importance of ergonomics should be highlighted more from the beginning. Ergonomics is important for everyone but if you’re at the outer edges of the normal distribution wrt riding population re size/weight/shape you it may make your ride especially unsafe or even impossible. A beginner does not know that and well meaning friends and enthusiasts and motorcycle dealerships usually tell you it’ll all be OK. For short riders sometimes it’s mentioned but usually it’s all about inseam/flat footing. But you need to be reaching levers comfortably and feeling them well. I am petite all over and will probably always have some concerns re ergonomics and need adjusting. But I didn’t know that because people (men) kept telling me they “ understand exactly how it is” for me based on being 5’8” and having ridden a tall adv or dual sport or something. It is so not the same thing! When it was so much harder for me just to even get on any bike, I was discouraged. I even almost gave up on day 1 because of the bike I was on in my MSF class - I could flatfoot but my upper body is shorter and the levers were so far and the clutch had an angle I could barely hold and overall my arms were too so short so even turning was difficult. After an hour or two it became so painful and numb it was distracting and eventually unsafe. I realise now that isn’t normal and is adjustable but wish I had understood.
@@rynwolfeh1904 compared to Dave, we may all be beginners lol.
13:04 that right there hits me in the spot 😂😂😂 yeah, always buying those colored bolts, smoked windshield, exhaust, first before even the most important stuff 😂😭
Dave, I've been riding for nearly 20 years and I always learn something new when I watch your videos. You have a natural gift for instruction.
Still have my notes from a suspension set up ride with Dave. I have a applied these principles to many bikes since. Thanks again Dave.
Did he help you over the internet? If so, what is the process?
This guy is a master of his craft, I feel the same way he does when I see people riding bicycles, usually their seat is too low or too high, or the bike is just too big or small for them in the first place! I have been cutting handlebars for people with pipe cutters for years, and adjusting brake levers, makes all the difference.Great video, thank you!
Those V4s were a nice selection of background music ! Great Video
After watching your teaching suggestions on this excellent video-- I recently went for a test ride on a few different Honda bikes at a main dealership -- each bike would have needed almost all or some of your suggested adjustments to be comfy and safe--the salesman was totally unaware of the need to adjust anything as Honda would have set bikes up totally correct for any bike and thought I was not right even suggesting any adjustments would be necessary-- so it proves that bad set up starts at test ride and goes on until teachers like yourself explain to us the need to do this - Dave thanks for making my bike riding a lot safer.
Thank you for your post! It would have been interesting to see the salesman and his reaction to "What glove size are you? So this is set up for small to XXL hand sizes?" Nothing wrong with asking a question as you never know where that question will take the recipient.
Everything this man says is gold, never thought of it this way
And yet he sports ape hangers on his vespa.
Adjusted my brake lever, clutch lever and shifter position...huge difference!
Wisdom is priceless, how many accidents could have been prevented with simple ergonomic adjustments. The EGO is a dangerous thing
I'm learning so much already from Dave and I don't have a bike yet. This makes it more exciting for me when I get my bike. =)
Thanks Dave!
Brilliant. So simple and sensical but absolutely overlooked. Plus, I love how he politely tells folks to “hush up” in the beginning. Every minute spent with this guy is an gift.
Glad you enjoyed the video and thanks for commenting.
Very important and most overlooked aspect of motorcycling. Well done.
wow. riding many years never thought of this. the example of rental car is genius ! thank you!
ZThank you for watching and now making some changes that you will benefit from!
I've been riding my Yamaha r3 for over a year now, always thought it was awkward grabing the clutch lever. Went outside and adjusted it can't wait to see what the next ride will be like.
How is the next ride?
@@iqbalnash5748 waaaaaaaay better! I just put some vortex 7 degree clipons today and it's made the bike a lot sportier :D
One of the most informative videos I’ve seen so far as a new rider. No fluff, not trying to make jokes, just great and helpful info.
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you Dave! I've had constant hand numbness that I attributed to a dislocated rib injury from a while ago, no idea why I didn't think to adjust the controls! I really appreciate your expertise!
This is easily the most intuitive video I have seen in terms of motorcycle ergonomics. I've owned 3 bikes so far and never knew any of these things. Being 6'5 and size 14 shoe I thought I just had to get used to being uncomfortable but this video has taught me otherwise. Great work.
Thank you for using the video to see how you can make yourself more comfortable. Do not forget a 2-3" taller seat to open up your knee angle and make sure the new seat is flat not curved.
I have never heard of Dave Moss before, but this is brilliant. I'm grabbing my tape measure and 12mm socket!
100% makes sense. Very educational. You kept my interests engaged. Thank you
Thank you for posting and sharing your POV on the content. Much appreciated.
DM helped me with my suspension back in 2016 in Thunderhill. Top notch guy.
After 8 years and some 30 k miles covered, I decided to set up my bike correctly. Great video! Thanks, Dave.
If you were comfortable with the setup before it was correct already...
I’ve been riding for 20yrs and never thought about some of these things. I feel like such an idiot 😅. Love hearing from experienced guys like Dave Moss
I rode for 20 years and did what I was told by my father:- car engine oil in the forks and up the preload for a passenger. We all start somewhere and everything from that point on is a bonus. Enjoy your journey and where possible, please pay it forward with your experience and knowledge gained.
This is a masterclass in the biomechanics of riding. As a strength coach, I loved the down-to-earth teaching style with straight-forward language/demos. Beautifully executed explanations. Liked and followed!
Thank you and welcome to the channel. I'm sure you will find a lot more straightforward content.
First thing I bought for my bike was gas!
Second, chain lube...
Third, windscreen. There was already one installed, looked good but not very aerodynamic.
To come: helmet (better aerodynamic, yes my neck doesn't like wind pressure) and a seat that will change my sitting position.
The suspension is now set. I'm going in the garage right away to fine tune the hand control ergonomics.
Thank-you Dave to help me and my motorcycle perform better!
60 Years old. Been riding since the age of 18. I have just been educated. I now need the extra edge you have provided more than ever. Thanks.
i’ll do these ergo things before i even ride my soon-to-be first bike home from the dealer. good thing i saw this great vid.
Thanks to you I, someone who's been on a bike for 1,800KMs in total, know just how adjustable bikes can be for each rider. I'm 6'5 and my R3 isn't a perfect fit, and since watching your videos I'm quickly becoming aware of what needs changing. Thank you, man! :]
Thank you for watching and then understanding what needs to be done!
I'm really impressed by seeing your first video, I don't know what exactly people think... Really you have a tons of knowledge to share to most of the people. I appreciate your hard work and hats off..🍻
this is actualy an extremely informative video. The comparison to a rental car and adjusting everything was spot on
Always learn something watching a Dave Moss vid
Great video!
Been riding for 32 years...never changed these things!
Unbelievable...changing it now!
This is the best video i have seen on bike set up-hands down ( no pun!!)
I learned from the Corvette owner's video how to set my seat position. What a difference it made. Knee slightly bent with brake mashed, THEN set the wheel position. This video is GOLD!
Brilliant really helped me set up my ergos when I put after market leavers on
it still astounds me why there are so many that just don't know this so Big Thumbs up to Dave for helping people get the most fun and safety out of their bikes!
The first thing i do when i get a new bike - usually every 3-4 years with about 35k km every year... from the showroom floor bikes are stuck together by someone that puts all the bits where they should be i.e. wheel on the axle, handlebars on the triple clamp but that's as far as it goes.
This is a good wake up call for the younger gen even most young adults, about proper bike and automotive use most like the fancy cool upgrades but do not have control over there bike or car
or language.
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I have been riding an ill-fitted bike for 30 yrs.... how humbling. I finally bought the Ducati of my dreams and this info has inspired me to get it dialed in. The wrist fix.... wow! what a difference!~
Hi Jared. Thanks for using the videos on ergonomics to help you get comfortable. Do not forget to check ankle alignment to hip joint and also that your ankle is more than 90 degrees at the top of the shift up stroke.
thank you for the nth repeat of ergonomics each video from previous is an improvement and as freemium is a god sent.
I do miss Mr Williams intro though. :)
the value to word ratio out of this man's mouth is 1:1
Amazing video. Haven't even thought about this stuff!
Dave is a gift to riders. I rescently took delivery of a new bike and I rode it for about 30min and my left wrist was aching and cramping so bad it ruined my riding experience. Thanks to this video I know exactly what is the cause and now I feel empowered to address the problem, I am so excited!
I absolutely love this!
When I got my bike new no one told me this, but thankfully I bought custom handlebar shortly after and fitted all in and adjusted by the feel to have it ergonomic, but only because I changed the handlebar, otherwise, I would also be like everyone else not adjusting most likely, This should be really explained by the dealership. Great Job!! Thanks a lot!
Great video but would it not be better to setup the hands with gloves on? The tiny little difference the leather/goretex makes can negate these fixes, if perfection is the goal?
Ideally yes, but you get 90% of the job done even without. The only thing might be brake lever distance to be fixed. The rest should be the same.
Babs Odumosu absolutely. Big difference for me with and without gloves. Even needed setting up again when I got new gloves (levers much closer)
Im surprised this hasnt been addressed, so many gloves catching on levers could be avoided.
This is awesome . I'm happy I'm seeing this shortly after getting my first bike and only getting 200 miles on it. Now I can see the proper way to adjust it. Awesome video thanks!
Perfect timing! Please share your results to encourage others to get started!
THAKS A LOT Mr DAVE MOSS for that tipe of videos.
This was the most informatively interesting video I have ever seen about buying a new bike. Thank you!
Hi Dave, thanks for great info and so clearly presented. Going to take your ergonomic ideas to each of my bikes to make them more comfortable.
When I got my Tracer 900 the first thing I had to do was adjust the rear brake lever and gear lever position, the factory position suited somebody with a Size 1 shoe, not my size 10 riding boot.
Thanks for the great and very helpful videos.
SUBSRIBED. you deserve it. Never seen anyone literally ANYONE bfore i bought my bike to tell me that we need to adjust our bike accordingly. i only buy adjustable footrest so i could hold and grip my bike tank properly. Now, i had find all the reason of pain when i go out and ride. Thank you so much. much love from Malaysian rider.
Thank you. Please share the benefits you experienced.
Now I don’t feel bad always buying new levers for my tiny hands.
Excellent video. I'm 6'8" and watched this hoping I could get some pointers. Intuitively, I already adjusted my brake and handlebar shift lever by a lot because my arm angle to them is ridiculously high. Also, I had to buy an extended shift lever for my size 15 boots.
The problem I now have is that standing up on my dual sport bike is very unstable. Bar risers helped a little, but I need to buy lowering pegs and a taller seat.
Thank you. Find an auto upholsterer and have them add 3-4 inches of high density memory foam and a gel pad. Much cheaper than looking for a seat!
@@catalystreactionsbw That's a great idea! Thanks!
my god the sound of that aprilia V4
Thanks for sharing this with me. I suffered from shoulder pain after riding my z900 and didn’t know were from it came. I changed everything after seeing this video and now it’s a hole different and better feeling with more fun without pain. Thank you, Sir. 🙏🏻
Thank you for getting your sleeves rolled up and finding an ergonomic setting that leaves you pain free.
"What's your job?"
Dave: "Motorcycle chiropractor".
After watching a bunch of wheelie and rev flooded motorcycle video's, finally one that teaches me something new and useful. Thanks!
Thanks for your comment. Glad our videos provide an environment for learning :)
So thats why a fatbar feels more uncomfortable than clip on for me
Every country needs 1 Dave Moss.
I guess I’ve been adapting all my life lol
This is one of - if not the best instructional video I have seen in my many hours of watching MC videos. Kudos.
Thanks for the comment - glad you enjoyed it. Hope it inspires you to make some changes to your motorcycle.
There’s always the guy who makes up for crappie riding by wearing dainese everything 😂
Or the alpine stars guy his best mate with similarly shit riding
Theres always the guy who makes up for great riding by dying
would you rather he died? Dude has a brand new bike, brand new gear. Where of all that did you get crappy riding from?
Better than the t-shirt, shorts and sandals LOTS of people consider sufficient for motorcycle riding
Your website has woke me up. My V7 111 was rock hard. I backed off 6 full turns on the rear shocks. Now I have forgiveness. I weigh 175 , it most of been set for a beast. No give. No free play. Clutch and front brake fit like a glove. The Guzzi is rather limited but, now it is a improvement. Thank you.
I regret that I am just now finding Dave Moss videos - I could watch these all day.
Welcome to the channel - continue with ergonomics and check sag/fork and shock travel used next.
KISS Method at it's truly finest hour and I too agree w/jerseyboy90 that analogy of the rental car is spot on. Best 18:55 minutes in my busy world in a long time. Thank you Dave for your wisdom and teaching me something new!!
Got a new bike last week. Already did a tail tidy, slip on, reflector delete, tank grips, quadlock, and windscreen. Have not once thought about adjusting my levers! GET OUT THERE AND ADJUST YOUR LEVERS!!! 🏍
Thank you for your support!
I'm glad I found your channel, Dave.
Great stuff!
This is not just great knowledge on bike setup, but much deeper information about how we use our bodies and minds. Great videos.
Thank you so much for this video. As a new rider I couldn’t understand why I was having trouble with grabbing the clutch lever without moving the position of my arm. Great explanation. Thanks!
You're welcome!
One of the best videos of all times, honestly.
I bought a brand new bike 2 weeks ago and just rode it as it was. Watched this and what a difference it made. A couple of adjustments here and there and it has made my riding much more comfortable. 195cm and 125 Kg, went for a cruiser style and just lever positioning alone made it so much more comfortable.
Nice work and a tip of the hat to you!
This geezer knows his stuff and these videos are very helpful, much appreciated by many, thanks mate
Being a geezer has its merits!
Been watching your content for a while, there's no one in your ball park around still to this day, I've seen with your knowledge.
- thank you to the two riders for contributing, using there bikes for examples👍
Thanks for the kind words - they are very much appreciated. Saving a life every day makes all this work very important to me to empower others to "have a go" and not settle for any stock setting. A very happy, safe and prosperous New Year to you!!
I started missing some shifts, very annoying and I couldn't figure why. Never had problems on this bike before. After watching this vid I figured it out. I have installed clip on handlebars and that lowered my angle of the tip of my foot by leaning forward. So I wasn't shifting with "enough" travel/ power. It took me a while to figure this out. I lowered my shifter pedal and problem was fixed ! Thank you, you are a genious ;)
Great attention to detail and excellent persistence to get it resolved. Well done George!!!!!
WOW .... I wish i saw this 3 yrs ago when you published it .... excellent info .... Thank You.
Thank you for posting - please share how changes you made benefited you!
Being a big head the only thing I did to my 1000 triumph daytona was buy adjustable levers....but after watching expert dave I will be looking for shocks set up as well ,gr8 vids dave thank you 👍
All very logical and a must for comfort and safety. Analogy with my bicycle took over an hour to adjust many point to enable cycling for 4-5 hours of comfort and safety. Great video and explanations.
Thank you for the positive comment based on your experience as validation. I appreciate you taking the time to post!
I talk to Dave a bit and he is a legend when you watch this video you know that lever position is so important and foot position.
I love dont move your rental car seat for the life of the rental
Been riding same bike for 40 years ('80 KZ650) and never adjusted anything. Will check it out now, Thank you Dave!
I figured this out on my own just now before even watching this video. I was sitting on my bike just earlier adjusting my headlight beam and thought what about my lever positions as well. So I adjusted them just like I’m the video. I will go back out to recheck them since I’ve watched this video. Very good info.
Excellent. Please report back on how this helped you with ease of braking and shifting plus less stress on your wrists.
I wouldve thought everyone did this when they first get a bike. Like no way I'm using whatever jank settings were set from the previous owner. I set them up to what feels good as soon as I get it home and then fine tune it over the first few rides.
Thanks for sharing your POV. It takes that first epiphany to set you on the right path and for many with ergonomics, that never happens.
Excellent video…every bike rider experienced or beginner needs a teacher like this guy.
Zen master, Dave!! I find most folks who have done motocross for a while, are more likely to adjust the bike to fit them. Bang on about injuries and having to adjust your body,
Excellent video. Just got a new bike and Im realizing that I have been contorting my hands to manipulate the controls.
I'm not tall and had ergonomic problems on most bikes. (due to spine problems) I ride a GL1800, this should be a super comfortable bike but there is not much adjustable.
Thanks to this video I started adjusting things like sitposiion (using the backrest) and brake/clutch levers angle. That helped a lot, I could not drive more then an hour to get uncomfortable, Sunday I rode 2 hours and nothing did hurt and the next day no backpain and headache.
So thank you very much, I wished I knew this 40 years ago.
Amazing what a little ergonomic experimentation will do for comfort and pain free riding. A tip of the hat to you for getting to work with your sleeves rolled up.
Thanks Dave...Let us know when you are coming up to The Ridge, Shelton, WA. We’ll keep you busy and the you will love the change in scenery.
Excited to head North. Only date so far this year is July 1 and 2.
Great tips. This is the first time ever heard of adjusting the bike to fit you. Very informative.
Glad it was helpful!
Setting up the bike for comfort and reaction time makes total sense. No one ever explained this to me!
I come from a bicycle racing background and making the bike fit you is second nature for me. I had no idea that people sat on motorcycles that didn't fit them. This video blew my mind. I even take a socket set and allen keys to the dealers when going to sit on a prospective new bike.
If the bike don't fit then I must a-quit... and go look at something else.
How a great and surprising "motorbiking science" channel. Great surprise!
Thank You, Mister Dave Moss!!
Our pleasure!
Just got a new bike, and how did I never know this before? Thankyou Dave! I'm going to make some adjustments tonight.