Special: Best basic simrig 2022
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
- All the sim racing chairs I have reviewed so far in a list from worst to the absolute best.
00:00:58 QWare Racing Seat • Review: Qware gaming seat
00:02:05 Playseat Evolution • Review: Playseat Evolu...
00:03:10 Next Level Racing Challenger • Review: Next Level Rac...
00:04:27 Next Level Racing GT Lite • Review: Next Level Rac...
00:05:35 RaceRoom RR3055 • Review: RaceRoom R3055
00:07:01 Playseat Revolution • Review: Playseat Revol...
00:08:45 Playseat Challenge • Review: Playseat Chall...
00:10:22 Next Level Racing F-GT • Review: The Formula an...
00:11:21 Oplite Nitrokart • Review: Oplite Nitrokart
00:13:28 Playseat Trophy • Review: Playseat Trophy
00:15:00 Oplite GTR • Review: Oplite GTR S1
00:16:15 GT Omega Art series • Review: GT Omega Art
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Nice video once again.
In reference to the Playseats. I know the Evolution gets a lot of flack for the middle bar, but I really have no issue with that here. My LCM pedals are mounted a bit to the left, so the brake pedal is a bit off center and it works well enough. But the pedal sheet of the Evolution seat seems to have been changed throughout product lifetime. The Revolution is no revolution but from a product range pov it makes obvious to customers that Playseat consider this as the next step. A bit like the ranging of BMW (1 to 7) series or Mercedes (A to S) being more obvious than Ford or Renault model names.
After a couple of months my issue with the Evolution is that I feel the wheel is a bit too close. I could put it a bit more away, but then the pedals are too far away. But the setup does not need too much width which probably doesn’t hurt the wife acceptance factor.
Thank youuuu 😎 there are indeed different pedal plates for the Evo and I can imagine if can be put off-center. I always assumed the dimensions of the plate werd not large enough to support it. I know the naming of the Revo is to differentiate it from the Evo... but still, when you hear the name Revo, you would think of an entirely different chair. For me it is like naming a Nissan Micra a Nissan Colossus... its just a wrong name 😏 As usual, thanks for the support MZ 💙
The brake pedal still is a bit behind the bar because you are right the base is not wide enough. But it really works ok.
If I hadn’t bought this one used I would still have bought a different setup probably.
@@marcianzero_yt that is most important. Normally you buy a rig and then set it up and tweak it in a way that fits you best. Because my experience is more based on a first look and feel, I tend to miss those things. In all, the Evo is still a large go-to on the second hand market because it is simply so good available and prices can get really competitive. If I would factor that in the list, the Evo would probably score a lot higher just behind the Challenge.
Nice break down of the different rigs on the market at the moment. Definitely agree the NLR F-GT is a great mid to top level cockpit. As you know I have one and have upgraded the seat to the NRG fiberglass racing bucket and definitely takes the whole rig to another level. I keep looking forward to your videos buddy. Keep up the good work. 🍻
Absolutely. The modifications you did are a necessity for this seat. I dont understand why they didn't place in some more effort and detail in the original seat. It would have made it so much better standard.
Merci de votre franchise lors de vos tests .
Vous êtes certainement le premier sur cette plateforme, à dire la vérité sur la qualité de ces chassis .
Ben c'est la verité teinté un peu par mes propres opinions bien sur. Merci pour votre feedback. J'apprecies beaucoup.
I have the next level GT lite , I had to add some things like a seat cushion and lumbar support etc etc to make it comfortable..The pedal plate on it is genius! And overall I'm happy now with my tweaks and for the price it's hard to beat ! Comes with shifter plate etc etc ..If I get another I agree with you , I will get the GT omega ART ... Fantastic for the money ! Thanks for the great reviews!
I think that's a pretty good round up. There are some positions that I would disagree slightly with, but that's only because my criteria for a good seat are are likely to be different to yours - for example I value absolute solidity (no flex whatsoever) together with a relatively lightweight design for ease of moving, which means the Trophy would top the list for me, but all told you're pretty much bang on point when compared to my personal experiences with racing seats.
Nice one as always 😉
Thanks man. Yeah the trophy is a difficult one. Its like i say in beginning. Reviews, rankings all very subjective.
keep doing your thing boss
Thank you kindly sir! 👍👍👍👍💪
Good video👍
Thank you friend!
Nice
You nailed it on the playset, outdated is a great observation.
I do really like your reviews , you clearly have great objective view
Thank you friend. The priviledge of not being tied to specific seat-manufacturars I guess 😎
@Neosphinx Hi, did you have to pay for customs charges / VAT/ other taxes for the GT Omega ART being the cockpit shipped from the UK?
I was worried for that too, but no, since they shipped from Europe no custom charges or other taxes.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource ok probably you were lucky, my package has been shipped from UK :( I can only hope for the best
@@christian7496 i just went check and indeed there is a note they say "Please note that some orders may ship from our UK warehouse. These orders may be subject to custom charges." I will hope with you that there are no extra costs 😔
So did your package arrive? Did you have an extra cost?
@@SimulatedDrivingResource it arrived today, and luckily with no additional costs for me 😀😀
Excellent choice for number one I have the GT omega Titan with the xl rs seat for a larger person I'm 6 ft tall it's truly amazing setup zero Flex in the Titan running tgt2 and tlcm pedals
Thanks for the support friend. I look forward to testing the Titan!
#9 I agree with you 100%
I have the next level racing GT Lite but it's an extreme pain in the ball sack to fold up and unfold every time I want to use it. Also it's very uncomfortable to use. I don't have space for a static cockpit.
So I'm thinking of buying the playseat challenge and use the pedal plate from the GT Lite on the playseat challenge. Then donate the GT Lite to my brother with the playseat pedal plate for it.
A very colorful description of the GT Lite's ability to fold. You are indeed way better of with the challenge if you dont have the dedicated space for a rig. Succes my friend!
@@SimulatedDrivingResource it's an extreme pain folding the thing. It literally puts me off using it.
Anyone you would recommend for the new Logitech Pro Wheels, more specifically the pedals..? I hear the pedal board in it is too big for many
@True2022 is the expert on that Subject 😎
@@SimulatedDrivingResource would be great with your recommendation @True2022!
Is the oplite gtr more rogid than the playseat trophy?
No. The wheelbase system and pedal plate of the Trophy is the top of tubular frames when it comes to stability of the wheelbase holder plate.
I think the Playseat challenge was the best looking of the bunch lol , a reason why I bought mine. Ive heard people complain about the velcrotrap on the pedals, not sure why? its not long enough for wide pedaös? I just put mine to the stop, and put the velcro around it, and adjusted the length for my legs. Never had a problem since i bought it in 2015
Looks are always subjective. 😎 and yes, that velcro strip doesnt fit around most 3 pedal bases. Still it is the best portable solution out there by a mile.
I have a Playseat challenge you can't beat it for value for money it's very comfortable for me height wise it's perfect it's a little narrow but for what you pay it'll take upto a dd drive wheel about 5nm or 8 with a bit of movement
Absolutely. For many years now, it has been the go-to for a foldable space efficiënt cockpit.
Great review. I just bought a Next Level GT Lite and I'm not happy with it. It started to hurt after 20 minutes of driving.
It is indeed not their best product. Perhaps if you repositioned the pedals (turn the pedalbase frame upside down) it might help with the pain, assuming it is backpain. The elevation angle can have such an effect. Thank you for the kind words friend!
I sent mine back , just couldn't get comfortable in it ..I now have the GT omega ART!!! Love it !
@@billynolanjr2266 ah it already arrived! Did you have a relaxing time putting it togetther? 😌
@@SimulatedDrivingResource I absolutely did ! Very easy and relaxing , And the RS9 seat is really nice, you were right on ! I'm happy so far , haven't had time to actually drive In it yet but I am sure it is going to work out great ! I don't know how they sell this rig so cheap ?? It's a bargain for sure . I'm looking for a good triple monitor stand now , the GT omega stand is out of stock ...And that's the one I wanted , I may build a diy one . Anyway , it was your glowing review that sold me ! And you were right about everything about this cockpit ! So thank you ! Great cockpit , it simply cannot be beat for the price !
@@billynolanjr2266 i am very glad to hear. As for the price... its not that this is cheap but all the rest of the prices ares just too inflated. But that chair, with all its aspects, it gave me a feeling i got worth for my money and I am glad I can share that with you! I wish you much fun and comfortable rides! 😁👍👍👍
I'm surprised you didn't like the seat on the Next Level Racing GT .I have the F-GT which is the same but more reclined and I've played for 12 hrs at a time with breaks
Pffff yeah you know... its so bland and feels "cheap". And its just in comparison with how other seats feel. It just doesnt feel right. Might have been the inclination of the pedal base too of course causing back pains. But the rig structure itself is gold
Think i have seen that playseat trophy one for as low as 400 so would probably move it up the list quite a bit at that price
If you can give me a link, i will surely mention it. Great seat. The next update will be next month.
Nice video with some useful info! Next time maybe try toning down the music. I had to put my volume uncomfortably loud to be able to understand you over the sound of the music
Thank you. It is indeed a valid comment. I have been paying more attention to it in the newer video's.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource Cool! Just thought I’d mention it as I’m sure if it bothered me it probably effected others too. Glad to hear you’ve taken it into consideration and made the appropriate alterations! Keep up the good work!
After watching that video I ordered a ART Simulator Cockpit RS12 Carbon. But the price seems to be much higher than you tell in this video. Perhaps it got more expensive? Currently bought it at 480€ while the base model RS6 is 444€ and its supposed to be on sale. You mention 340€ at 17:20 So currently the price is much higher than the Playseat, but hey... if its better, its worth it.
Actually I made an update of that video and they did raise prices to 380 for the basic but apparantly after the update video th-cam.com/video/gR4WOG4WUmU/w-d-xo.html , they raised prices even more!
Playseat should have an aluminum profile chassis called the Revelation. Aluminum profile chassis are super popular now and that’s why all these companies started making them. Kinda like dd wheels. Not Playseat though.
That would cut in their current line-up for the Sensation Pro, but absolutely, seeing other seat manufacturars like GT Omega did with the Prime, it would be a good idea.
Ive only had a Playseat challenge, i can race all evening and not notice im sat on anything then fold under stairs if needed 👍
I have the playseat challenge also. I bought the next level DD wheelstand for my fanatec DD wheel. But the playseat challenge is so comfy that i didn't bought a new cockpit. I removed the front of the playseat and it fits perfect on my DD wheelstand. I do racing session of 10 hours sometimes without any issues. A friend of me has a very expencive racing seat (around 600€/$). I can say the playseat is way more comfortable. He's saying the same. Racing in my playseat challenge feels like I don't experience gravity. The pedal and wheel basestand is inadequate for loadcell pedals and DD wheels. But the seat is amazingly good. Thats also NEXT LEVEL 😉. I'm still in doubt if I will buy the expencive GTSeat add on with the extra frame for connecting to my next level racing DD wheelstand. The price of it is 580€/$. The GTSeat looks very premium, leather and expensive. But I'm almost sure It's less comfy compared to my playseat challenge. Especially during the summer. The playseat challenge stays so cool and refreshing in hot summer days. I could even state that the playseat challenge is more comfortable compared to my couch at home and my carseat. And no... I'm not sitting in a rubbish couch everyday when watching tv😉.
Exactly my thoughts. It shares the similarities with a beach-chair but also the "chill" feeling when you sit in it. And like you say, more comfortable then some more expensive seats out there. The add-on seat of NLR is very nice though. But if you are comfortable as you are now... there is indeed no real reason to change except for the estethic part. You already tackled the main issue of the Challenge being the stability so it seems to me you're all good!
@@SimulatedDrivingResource OMG..😬 I just ordered the add on seat also. Couldn't resist it. The seat is looking so nice. Now it's waiting for my psvr2. No holiday for me this summer😬. I received the Fanatec DD pro (boost kit 8NM) with pedals and handbrake à few days ago. This is getting expencive. But I'm sure I'm future proof. The fanatec DD pro is compatible with my series x and ps5. Not a lot of wheelbases can do that.
@@Magic0165 How is NLR add on seat compared to Playseat Challenge from a comfort point of view? i also have NLR DD stand but I am thinking to buy a Playseat Challenge instead.
@@bestopinion9257 well, the playseat challenge is more comfortable. The playseat adjusts to your body. The next level racing seat and cockpit is more sturdy and looks more pro for sure. But if you don't have an DD wheel with high torque I would choose the playseat challenge. At 1/5 of the price compared to the next level sim rig. The NLR seat is good. Looks premium. I can do sessions of multiple hours without a problem. It's comparable with a car seat. But the playseat challenge is more comfortable. Especially during hot summer days. (I'm assuming that... We did not have real hot weather yet.) But I used the playseat challenge a lot in the summer. No sweating at all. It's breathable fabric. I'm not that big. For other people it can be maybe a problem. Especially the length of your legs.
Thx for the very useful reviews and comparison. One thing though, the background music is too loud compared to your voice.
Very difficult to find a good Balance. I will try and fix it next video. Thanks for the feedback friend👍👍👍
Is it better in the new video ( th-cam.com/video/m6lt90CUOoY/w-d-xo.html )? I think I went from 30 to 15%
@@SimulatedDrivingResource Yes it is
not sure why replying to you in my other comment it disappears but that playseat trophy can google it and one comes up for 400 from digital-motorsports but i would guess most of those seats prices fluctuate.
Yeah that site normally doesnt come up in my region. I found it, but then it transferred me and it is 492€. Not bad still, brings it under 500
I've owned only one, so I say GT Omega Art cockpit.
Well you picked the best from the start. Absolutely love that hardware
Thank You. Very clear. I now witch wan toe by. My space is smalle. Antonie Suter.
Glad to be of assistance friend👍👍👍
I have PLAYSEAT Sensation pro Redbull esport edition and must say it is one of the best rig out there
Looks nice and very sturdy. Quite a strong pricetag tho
@@SimulatedDrivingResource yess the price tag is a bit hight But the seating position gives you the best sense of immersion and it is rock solid. It support Direct drive wheels without a hitch, Also one advantage I find is when using the TGT and it’s transducer on GT game You feel it in the whole rig which gives you a little bit more control over the car I find
@@anthonyfa18 i believe you. Perhaps one day if it comes up not too expensive second hand, I will have a go at it. Thank you for sharing friend!💙
@@SimulatedDrivingResource if u ever come to Canada your more them welcome to come try it and review it
So I had a Thrustmaster T150 and a Playseat Challenge rig and I am now looking at slightly better upgrade. I am ex-(successful😁) racing driver in Radical and Caterham as my background, and I used to only have 2 games on my PS4🤣😂, namely Project Cars and GTAV.
The weak link on my old rig I found was the T150 pedals, or the “feel” of them. Even though I did some adjusting, I found that the braking was very difficult as it had no feel. The T150 wheel itself was perfectly ok, for the price-point, yeah it could have stronger feedback sure, but a good wheel all the same.
The Playseat Challenge was also a good budget buy, very comfortable, there was some flex in the whole unit, but again for the price a very good buy.
So now I am looking at an upgrade, but I am not going to spend £1000’s!!
I like the look of the Playseat Trophy, the price new is eye-watering, but it could be a second-hand buy for me.
I am not looking at the high end Fanatec as the price is too much…..so I am looking for 1. Good pedals, with realistic brakes and progressive feel ( even though in a real car there is not that much progression), and a wheel with slightly stronger feedback. I may consider a T300 or the one up from that if I can justify the price. I am not so sure of buying a used wheel and pedals though.
An actual racing driver 😮 Well GTAV wasnt really known for its realistic driving, but I played it long enough myself too 😁 The trophy is rock-solid and a good choice but pretty hard to find second hand and I agree...new.. its already quite the investment! The T300 on the other hand, Well, it is great hardware and for sure a good choice. It performs the best in its price category but yeah, you might want to buy TLCM or T3PM pedals with it. Because it is sold quite often, its the most popular base second hand. I understand the reluctancy of buying it second hand, but very good deals can be made. Also keep in mind that the upcoming month there will be "promotions" for black friday for many manufacturars. Might be a good time for you to buy if you want new hardware. Thanks for the feedback!
@@SimulatedDrivingResource after an initial study, I agree that the Thrustmaster TLCM pedals look the best choice for me, they are just over £200 but I am happy to do that as Pedals was the most noticeable unit in my previous rig. The T300 wheel I think would be enough for me, I thought the T150 for the budget was pretty good value, so I think just one step up to the T300 will suffice. That just leaves the seat…..I still like the Trophy but will consider your recommendation at a much more realistic budget. Thanks
Well.. I would recommend to you what I recommend to anyone that does not have 1000's to spent and that is the GT Omega. The ART is relatively stable and sturdy, is comfortable, configurable and the only seat that I really didnt have a feeling I was overpaying. There is a sale going on for black friday this moment and I believe you can still get the GTO discount-code (-5%). If you want even more stable (although in my opinion it is already very stable), they have the Titan too but that one I still need to buy before I can comment 😁 Dont get me wrong, the Trophy is a very very good seat, I just didnt think it was particularly Well priced.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource agree on the Trophy price, makes me wanna get a tube bender and a welder sparked up…..suck it and see
Update! After looking at most option I can find….I have almost decided to buy…
😝Another Playseat Challenge!😣
I really need something to fold or easily break down and be stored. And narrow width.
What has lead me back to the Playseat Challenge, that wobbly jelly thing? Well I have found on eBay UK Playseat Challenge Mods! So bracing for the wheel, bracing and fitment kit for Fanatec pedals, (and even a shifter mod which I don’t need).
These of course add up to another £60 ( for the 2 mods) over the £169 Amazon UK price for a new Challenger. So, budget £230. I can’t find anything else that is storable and versatile for the money. I can see that, in theory, your Art chair can be split in half, but I guess it will still be big and heavy to move.
IMHO price /quality next level racing f-gt is the best solution #nextlevelracing
I agree to disagree 😏 but it certainly is not a bad seat.
I had no idea Leonardo DiCaprio was a sim racer!
Did he finally switch from dumping 26-year old girlfriends to racing virtual cars to satisfy his second youth? There is still hope for this world!
Great video! ART better be #1 on this list. Made me go and buy one. Just kidding.
What else 😎
Ask yourself a question: If you talk about something, what does the viewer wish to see? - The matter you talk about or you talking about the matter? ;)
Asked that exact question yesterday night when editting footage of a new video. Answer will be in next video. Thanks man.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource - You're welcome. :)
Serious: I watched your whole video - but every time you introduced another cockpit, I wished you would have shown it not just for a second or so. I often found myself skipping back and pausing playback just to have a look at that rig and compare your explanations with the visuals.
At the same time, I found it difficult to navigate in the video for finding the ultra short introductory shots because there are no chapters.
I liked your video, watched with a lot of nods, thus I wish you success and more subscribers. ;)
It is a process of trial and error. You should watch my real "older" reviews :-| It's because of feedback that I can improve so thanks. Hope the new video was a bit better.
@@JoernR Added the chapters. Thanks for offering that feedback friend!
Gt omega
Ftw!!! 👍👍👍👍
@@SimulatedDrivingResource can you move the seat forward and backward or move the pedals? Cause I’m pretty short so I want to make sure I can reach the pedals. I’m 5’6
Yes you can. No worries.
@@SimulatedDrivingResource ok great
We dont want to see your face, we want to see the sim-racing seats
All the individual reviews are available in case you might have missed it. This is an overview.
If someone can't efford or don't have the space for alluminium bar chassis do not waste money with middle range things. I have a playseat challenge with indigo lime's full mod in structure and i can handle dd pro 8nm and fanatec v3 pedals and i'm in love. Before those mods i was looking around but now i'm satisfied. 280€ in total and i'm confortable
For a lot of people, the Challenge can indeed be a good solution.
keoket de laatste is bijna 5 meijr man
Klopt. Basic is tot +-500€. Je kan ook altijd meer budget kopen. th-cam.com/video/DP3zRAPLARs/w-d-xo.html
@@SimulatedDrivingResource nah nee dankje heb al zon mini budget xD