This series has really hammered it home to me how loyal Deamon Targaryen is. Gyldayn tries to present him as this power hungry, unpredictable villain. But Deamon obeys all of the commands Viserys gives him during his reign and then obeys all of Rhaynera's commands during the war. He's really the apitamy of the dutiful Second son.
I think that for the title of rogue prince to be earned, like George seems to think it is, Deamon needs to be responsible for a great deal of the things he is accused of
I thought Viserys' "tall tales" were significantly sad. His grandfather wouldn't have wanted to talk about Maegor and the Faith Militant Uprising, his aunt wouldn't have wanted to speak intimately with him at all, and having grown up not expected to rule with his own father (if you're correct) an incurious jock, Viserys may not have learned much detail about the Conquest let alone dragonmancy. This shows him grasping at straws, unable to pass down any meaningful wisdom to his descendants. In fact by mentioning this, Gyldayne might even be subtly bragging -- "look how we reduced them to ignorant absurdities."
Daemon taking Harrenhal bloodlessly always reminded me of Visenya taking the Vale without bloodshed. Both are wielders of Dark Sister and both tend to have pretty bad reputations, yet their decisions here betray that they weren’t as gung ho about bloodshed and death as the Maesters would have you believe - at least at this time for Visenya since she went on to live quite a long life. I think it’s meant to make us question the true character of these two bc claiming a bloodless victory seems like smth GRRM would approve of, and that he gives that to two characters with rocky reputations in lore is pretty significant
@@sosa2mars not saying they’re the most moral people in the world, but still, subtly threatening a child instead of taking thousands of lives is something she went out of her way to do. It could have easily backfired. I’m just saying that you’d expect the ‘bloodthirsty’ Visenya & Daemon to have not even give a shit about preserving mass amounts of life but these two examples are noteworthy imo
Remember the Green hid Viserys death from the realm for days so that they could put Aegon on the throne and that Beesbury was a noble man who sought to follows his Kings wish for Rhaenyra to rule and was brutally murder for it.
Hi Preston I’m currently re reading feast and I was wondering if nagga the sea dragon Skeleton in the iron islands is a sea dragon and not just the remains of a regular dragon which died before the Targaryen’s arrived. In which case how did dragons arrive on Westeros. Or do sea dragons actually exist
Question for next time (errrr, maybe the time after that): with Rhaenyra's disastrous final childbirth, we're supposed to draw the parallel to Daenerys' childbirth at the end of AGoT, right? The king (Drogo and Viserys) die, and in the east, the princess-queen gives birth to a stillborn child and the dragons dance? But what about Rhaella's final pregnancy - that's supposed to be paralleled as well, right? The king in KL dies, and the princess/queen on Dragonstone goes into labor early(?) from the stress, and the child is stillborn in both cases(?)
Ok, book or show, I don't understand how for the final bit of Viserys' reign, Otto is basically ruling the show, and Rhaenyra in fine to let it happen???? I understand that while she's heavily pregnant, she might not want to be in KL herself, dealing with tense politics all day, but surely she should have more representation at court than just poor Lyman Beesbury and a few random lords? Was she not expecting the Greens to do a coup???? If I were her, I would send Rhaenys to court as a representative (Rhaenys' loyalty could be guaranteed by Rhaenyra, because she holds Rhaenys' grandkids as hostages, and Rhaenys doesn't have a famous rivalry/mutual hatred with Otto quite to the extent as Daemon, so she'd probably be a more effective representative in this scenario than Daemon), and convince Viserys to send one of his Green kids/grandkids to Dragonstone to be fostered, to prevent Rhaenys from being held executed by the Greens.
appointing a beesbury after the whole stinger affair actually makes sense, even though he was arguably justified and in an agreed upon trial by combat, house beesbury would likely not be happy with jaehaerys having just killed their lord's son and at the time they were a fairly powerful and influential house in the reach despite their relatively minor status and as vassals to the hightowers they had a powerful liege they could call upon to support them in any disputes with they may press against the crown, so putting a beesbury on the small council could be a way to compensate for the loss of their heir and mend relations with them
Ooof, Braxton Beesbury. Not only is his story interesting, but here we come to one of my favourite weird little niches, i.e. names and fantasy names in particular. Braxton is a quite modern firstname, and as such it really takes me out of a story. Braxton is originally of course a surname, derived from Brock's Town. There's an American convention of giving the mother's maiden name as a male child's middle name to accomodate both his parent's family names. However this lead to the practice of giving a child his father's middle name as a first name, meaning that family names came to be used as first names, when they really shouldn't be used in this way. It is also now used as a way to make yourself seem unique, by giving your child a strangely spelled variation of a normal name. For example Taylor, Lloyd, Lee, Harper, Jackson, Carter, Riley, MacKenzie, Lincoln, Hudson, Hunter are all last names that became through accident and misunderstanding to be used also as First names. This practice is also from the modern period, so seeing a supposedly medieval character have one of these names is distracting to say the least. It's not wrong, per se, but it is one of those things where once you notice it, it really starts to get distracting.
@@mollofamerika I think Elmo is actually just a first name, somewhat rare now. I am aware of a Medieval saint named Elmo, after whom St. Elmo's fire was named. I think Elmo means loved, or friend or something similar. Elmo is a reference in the names of the Tully's of the era of the Dance: you might recognize the names Oscar, Grover, Elmo and Kermit Tully as being denizens of a street of sesame. I am just waiting for a Mallister heir or bastard to be named Big Bird at this point. It's a shame that Westeros doesn't have more than one lordly title, as they could then have a pale count who is very obsessed with arithmetics.
I can't help but wonder if Daemon wasn't at Rhaenyra's side during her pregnancy because he realized his brother was on death's door and he was trying to shore up political support for his wife. He wasn't a shit husband. He was ensuring his wife would inherit the Throne. I made a comment on an earlier video about how Rhaenyra basically lost the throne the second she was asked to live on Dragonstone, which had the unintended consequence of isolating her from being a power player in King's Landing. Now that she was very very pregnant during her father's time on his deathbed, it was up to Daemon to sneak off and try to gather support without arousing suspicion. If he tried to send ravens, the Maester would know he was up to something. If he left on his own and pretended to be an unsupportive husband, it'd be another Tuesday.
@@alexanderguerrero347It’s bad to ride a horse when pregnant, let alone riding a dragon in the last trimester. Rhaenyra wasn’t going anywhere beyond Dragonstone
@@alexanderguerrero347 True, but she's kind of in a Stannis situation where she can't be on the ground when important events (like her father dying) happen and she lost a lot of her local allies when the Greens stacked the Small Council with her enemies
I think the lannisters were anti velaryon,because of competition,they were the two richest houses at the time,they didn’t want to have an over powered house velaryon
Random thoughts on the "Beesburys": My first guess is, that Braxton was at least framed for taking Sarahs maidenhood, thus spoiling and depraving her. That would be the harsher crime and explain the drastic punishment. Now, there are two ways to Laymans appointment: The obvious one: It was a diplomatic decision by Jahaerys. He had to punish Braxton for this whole "taking the virginity of a Princess" incident, which everyone probably even agreed to. To signify, that he only held a grudge against the individual and to appease the House, he promoted one of them into a really important position. But the tinfoil option always includes: Layman actually "framed" his nephew, who only had bastard children, to weaken the line of his brother and ascend in the line of succession. (Now we don't know, how effective this was, since we don't know how many brothers Braxton had. the Wiki only lists "Brothers" at that point.) Jahaerys promoted Layman, it seemed like Layman would rather serve the Targaryen and "the Realm", rather than protecting his kin, while Layman in truth was only looking for his personal gains. But I probably watched too much Perston Jacobs, if I come up with ideas like that.
If the king is in such bad health why wouldn’t the heir be there to help rule and learn the ropes, this has always bothered me in this story you would thing viserys would have demanded it
@@nicksherman5702 That's it, for years. It is unlikely that he thought that he would die, since he always got better one way or another. The book says that Rhaenyra was already 8 months pregnant and began to prepare for childbirth, it is unlikely that he would bother her. And if he did, then the letters might simply not reach her.
Agreed. If I were Rhaenyra, I would be there, or send someone to KL in my stead if the pregnancy left me bedridden and not up to the task of dealing with the Greens and Court 24/7. I would also convince Viserys to send one of his Green kids/grandkids to Dragonstone as a ward, to make sure the Greens didn't try any coups or assassinations at Court. As for why Viserys didn't summon Rhaenyra, I'm guessing it was for the same reason he didn't make her Hand after Lyonel Strong's death: The governance of the realm was a daunting task; the king needed a strong, capable Hand to shoulder some of his burdens. Briefly he considered sending for Princess Rhaenyra. Who better to rule with him than the daughter he meant to succeed him on the Iron Throne? But that would have meant bringing the princess and her sons back to King’s Landing, where more conflict with the queen and her own brood would have been inevitable. He considered his brother as well, until he recalled Prince Daemon’s previous stints on the small council. Its a pretty poor rationale, but I guess that's Viserys for you?
@@Mj_Jetson Put like that Viserys did behave very irresponsibly, but he'd been in poor health for years and presumably didn't expect to die so suddenly. Plus of course his Green Small Council would be sure to advise in The strongest terms against recalling Rhaenyra. I can see why he let things drift.
If you want to increase the amount of views for your next video, you could start a new series "Overanalyzing the Dance of the Dragons" (with maybe an updated thumbnail), which would pull in people who are interested in the Dance, but might otherwise get scared of by the 27 preceding videos.
I looked into it and the best I could find is that the Summer Isles is well known for pearls, so possibly acquired through trade, which would beg to question which house bought the ring.
@@stupidminotaur9735 If it helps, on the ASOIAF wiki pearls are also supposed to represent fertility, could Viserys have been subconsciously planting suggestions that his grandchildren should have a lot of children? Or at the very least something along those lines idk idk
@@dyar648 i was also thinking of any houses that had a clam/oyster in their signal, like a small knightly house with a larger overlord house and thats the house.
Anybody else find it very sus that Viserys who’s not in good shape but still well enough to rule, his health takes a dramatic decline as soon as Orwyle arrives? I think Orwyle was sent for when Viserys complains about chest tightness. Gyldayn just conveniently forgot to mention it. Just like Yandel never mentions that it was Gowan who was the last person to interact with Aenys before he collapsed and died. Aenys gets incredibly sick under Gowan’s care, Visenya actually helped Aenys get better, Gowan would be the one to deliver the messages to Aenys (which I guess Yandel forgot to mention) and Aenys dies as soon as he comes in contact with Gowan again. Yandel would have everyone believe that Visenya killed Aenys. If Orwyle didn’t kill Viserys by himself then he played a major role!!
Iron Rod......Tee-he-he-he-he, GRRM has the dirtiest mind. Homie sired 29 kids on 4 wives, and deleted his last wife from exhaustion...... Poor lady. This guy needs to get himself a vat of oil and handle his business himself sometimes. Jaeherys might have felt bad for what he did to the poor young Beesbury, so he threw the family a bone. Also, keep your enemies close. Especially if they have a valuable skill you can utilize
I did wonder what was up with the Beesburies, with Braxton, Lymon and proximity to Oldtown... maybe Lymon felt grateful to Jaehaerys, for killing Braxton and making Lymon himself the new heir? If so, its pretty bad form to appear happy about your kin's death in asoiaf, and its not clear why this loyalty to Jaehaerys would translate to Rhaenyra, rather than to Aegon. Maybe, since Lymon Beesbury had been living at Court for most of his life, he didn't feel attached to him family and their overlords the Hightowers? (though he is a lord, so he's supposed to be looking out for the interests of his lands, and his Beesbury kin do feel attached to him and demand his release, even long after his death.)
The whole accident with Stinger is very fishy. my main issue was how come a 50 year old king , defeats a young dude who is addressed as one of the finest sword in his area? When the old king was young he did practice swordsmanship , but later .. we have few paragraph about his sons practicing , and nowhere we hear mentioning of their kingly father joining. the whole trail was dangerous , the king might have being killed . My guess is that Stinger was poisoned before the combat. Or the battle was a mock battle , like Ricard Stark had with the mad king. Braxton was chained or something like that , the battle was witnessed before small crowd of really loyal man, like king guards , and later they reported about "real" trail to make the king more badass.
Braxton was likely the son of Lyman himself rather than his nephew, as Jaeherys mentioned that Braxton had brothers. Lyman was Lord of Honeyholt, during his time of death as well.
The age for him being his dad is just off by a little. Braxton is 16 years younger. A little off for a 15 year old to be married. Not impossible but more likely he is an uncle.
Just an FYI on the title, it would be “Viserys’s” not “Viserys’”, you only use the apostrophe without another S when something is plural. So Chairs would be “chairs’”, but Viserys isn’t plural because it’s a name. Similarly, Charles would be “Charles’s” not “Charles’ “
"Then the storm broke, and the dragons danced." Is such a great way to end that "chapter". It gives me chills every single time.
This series has really hammered it home to me how loyal Deamon Targaryen is. Gyldayn tries to present him as this power hungry, unpredictable villain. But Deamon obeys all of the commands Viserys gives him during his reign and then obeys all of Rhaynera's commands during the war. He's really the apitamy of the dutiful Second son.
The Slightly Temperamental (but not at all rogue) Prince.
I think that for the title of rogue prince to be earned, like George seems to think it is, Deamon needs to be responsible for a great deal of the things he is accused of
I should have mentioned this in the video, but the title "Rogue Prince" is completely retconned away in Fire and Blood.
@@PrestonJacobstheSweetrobinlol of course
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Lord BEEEEEEsbury, Lord of the Hives, Master of Coin, and all around legend.
RIP Lyman the goat 😭
best glidus joke by far
@@ДмитрийКудрявцев-т3ъ I like to call the song Ave MaBEEya.
This series could get to part 100 without the war starting yet and I'd still be watching
I thought Viserys' "tall tales" were significantly sad. His grandfather wouldn't have wanted to talk about Maegor and the Faith Militant Uprising, his aunt wouldn't have wanted to speak intimately with him at all, and having grown up not expected to rule with his own father (if you're correct) an incurious jock, Viserys may not have learned much detail about the Conquest let alone dragonmancy. This shows him grasping at straws, unable to pass down any meaningful wisdom to his descendants. In fact by mentioning this, Gyldayne might even be subtly bragging -- "look how we reduced them to ignorant absurdities."
Always a good day when the legend himself uploads
A Beesbury named "the Stinger" was sure of a bad end, bees die when they sting
Ironic as well because when a Bee also has sex using its stinger, it immediately dies
Daemon taking Harrenhal bloodlessly always reminded me of Visenya taking the Vale without bloodshed. Both are wielders of Dark Sister and both tend to have pretty bad reputations, yet their decisions here betray that they weren’t as gung ho about bloodshed and death as the Maesters would have you believe - at least at this time for Visenya since she went on to live quite a long life. I think it’s meant to make us question the true character of these two bc claiming a bloodless victory seems like smth GRRM would approve of, and that he gives that to two characters with rocky reputations in lore is pretty significant
I mean, in Visenya’s case she does kinda subtly threaten a child in front of his mother to achieve said victory
@@sosa2mars not saying they’re the most moral people in the world, but still, subtly threatening a child instead of taking thousands of lives is something she went out of her way to do. It could have easily backfired. I’m just saying that you’d expect the ‘bloodthirsty’ Visenya & Daemon to have not even give a shit about preserving mass amounts of life but these two examples are noteworthy imo
Remember the Green hid Viserys death from the realm for days so that they could put Aegon on the throne and that Beesbury was a noble man who sought to follows his Kings wish for Rhaenyra to rule and was brutally murder for it.
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Viserys was being neglected so that "those vipers" could rule in his name.
Hi Preston I’m currently re reading feast and I was wondering if nagga the sea dragon Skeleton in the iron islands is a sea dragon and not just the remains of a regular dragon which died before the Targaryen’s arrived. In which case how did dragons arrive on Westeros. Or do sea dragons actually exist
Question for next time (errrr, maybe the time after that): with Rhaenyra's disastrous final childbirth, we're supposed to draw the parallel to Daenerys' childbirth at the end of AGoT, right? The king (Drogo and Viserys) die, and in the east, the princess-queen gives birth to a stillborn child and the dragons dance? But what about Rhaella's final pregnancy - that's supposed to be paralleled as well, right? The king in KL dies, and the princess/queen on Dragonstone goes into labor early(?) from the stress, and the child is stillborn in both cases(?)
Ok, book or show, I don't understand how for the final bit of Viserys' reign, Otto is basically ruling the show, and Rhaenyra in fine to let it happen???? I understand that while she's heavily pregnant, she might not want to be in KL herself, dealing with tense politics all day, but surely she should have more representation at court than just poor Lyman Beesbury and a few random lords? Was she not expecting the Greens to do a coup???? If I were her, I would send Rhaenys to court as a representative (Rhaenys' loyalty could be guaranteed by Rhaenyra, because she holds Rhaenys' grandkids as hostages, and Rhaenys doesn't have a famous rivalry/mutual hatred with Otto quite to the extent as Daemon, so she'd probably be a more effective representative in this scenario than Daemon), and convince Viserys to send one of his Green kids/grandkids to Dragonstone to be fostered, to prevent Rhaenys from being held executed by the Greens.
Yep.
Rhaenyra behaved very foolishly.
appointing a beesbury after the whole stinger affair actually makes sense, even though he was arguably justified and in an agreed upon trial by combat, house beesbury would likely not be happy with jaehaerys having just killed their lord's son and at the time they were a fairly powerful and influential house in the reach despite their relatively minor status and as vassals to the hightowers they had a powerful liege they could call upon to support them in any disputes with they may press against the crown, so putting a beesbury on the small council could be a way to compensate for the loss of their heir and mend relations with them
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Ooof, Braxton Beesbury. Not only is his story interesting, but here we come to one of my favourite weird little niches, i.e. names and fantasy names in particular.
Braxton is a quite modern firstname, and as such it really takes me out of a story. Braxton is originally of course a surname, derived from Brock's Town. There's an American convention of giving the mother's maiden name as a male child's middle name to accomodate both his parent's family names. However this lead to the practice of giving a child his father's middle name as a first name, meaning that family names came to be used as first names, when they really shouldn't be used in this way. It is also now used as a way to make yourself seem unique, by giving your child a strangely spelled variation of a normal name.
For example Taylor, Lloyd, Lee, Harper, Jackson, Carter, Riley, MacKenzie, Lincoln, Hudson, Hunter are all last names that became through accident and misunderstanding to be used also as First names. This practice is also from the modern period, so seeing a supposedly medieval character have one of these names is distracting to say the least.
It's not wrong, per se, but it is one of those things where once you notice it, it really starts to get distracting.
Interesting.
Isn't it literally the same story with the name "Preston"? :D
and Elmo
@@soko-ban I think so. I believe Preston is related to the word "priest". I have not checked, but I believe it is.
@@mollofamerika I think Elmo is actually just a first name, somewhat rare now. I am aware of a Medieval saint named Elmo, after whom St. Elmo's fire was named. I think Elmo means loved, or friend or something similar.
Elmo is a reference in the names of the Tully's of the era of the Dance: you might recognize the names Oscar, Grover, Elmo and Kermit Tully as being denizens of a street of sesame. I am just waiting for a Mallister heir or bastard to be named Big Bird at this point. It's a shame that Westeros doesn't have more than one lordly title, as they could then have a pale count who is very obsessed with arithmetics.
I can't help but wonder if Daemon wasn't at Rhaenyra's side during her pregnancy because he realized his brother was on death's door and he was trying to shore up political support for his wife. He wasn't a shit husband. He was ensuring his wife would inherit the Throne.
I made a comment on an earlier video about how Rhaenyra basically lost the throne the second she was asked to live on Dragonstone, which had the unintended consequence of isolating her from being a power player in King's Landing. Now that she was very very pregnant during her father's time on his deathbed, it was up to Daemon to sneak off and try to gather support without arousing suspicion.
If he tried to send ravens, the Maester would know he was up to something. If he left on his own and pretended to be an unsupportive husband, it'd be another Tuesday.
I mean she has a dragon and could visit. It’s not like dragonstone is so far away
@@alexanderguerrero347It’s bad to ride a horse when pregnant, let alone riding a dragon in the last trimester. Rhaenyra wasn’t going anywhere beyond Dragonstone
@@alexanderguerrero347 True, but she's kind of in a Stannis situation where she can't be on the ground when important events (like her father dying) happen and she lost a lot of her local allies when the Greens stacked the Small Council with her enemies
@@manband20
This makes sense.
It was certainly important for Daemon and Rhaenyra to keep up to date about the state of Viserys' health.
I think the lannisters were anti velaryon,because of competition,they were the two richest houses at the time,they didn’t want to have an over powered house velaryon
Random thoughts on the "Beesburys": My first guess is, that Braxton was at least framed for taking Sarahs maidenhood, thus spoiling and depraving her. That would be the harsher crime and explain the drastic punishment.
Now, there are two ways to Laymans appointment: The obvious one: It was a diplomatic decision by Jahaerys. He had to punish Braxton for this whole "taking the virginity of a Princess" incident, which everyone probably even agreed to. To signify, that he only held a grudge against the individual and to appease the House, he promoted one of them into a really important position.
But the tinfoil option always includes: Layman actually "framed" his nephew, who only had bastard children, to weaken the line of his brother and ascend in the line of succession. (Now we don't know, how effective this was, since we don't know how many brothers Braxton had. the Wiki only lists "Brothers" at that point.) Jahaerys promoted Layman, it seemed like Layman would rather serve the Targaryen and "the Realm", rather than protecting his kin, while Layman in truth was only looking for his personal gains.
But I probably watched too much Perston Jacobs, if I come up with ideas like that.
I’ve loved listening to this I can’t wait for more Over Analyzing chapters great job
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Good stuff Preston! Is the time table for these as you get to them or a standard very couple/few weeks?
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If the king is in such bad health why wouldn’t the heir be there to help rule and learn the ropes, this has always bothered me in this story you would thing viserys would have demanded it
Probably because Viserys himself didn’t think he was that bad of health. The man was 52 not 82
I mean he had chest pains gout and couldn’t climb the iron throne, for years, the man couldn’t think he was gonna get all better
@@nicksherman5702 That's it, for years. It is unlikely that he thought that he would die, since he always got better one way or another. The book says that Rhaenyra was already 8 months pregnant and began to prepare for childbirth, it is unlikely that he would bother her. And if he did, then the letters might simply not reach her.
Agreed. If I were Rhaenyra, I would be there, or send someone to KL in my stead if the pregnancy left me bedridden and not up to the task of dealing with the Greens and Court 24/7. I would also convince Viserys to send one of his Green kids/grandkids to Dragonstone as a ward, to make sure the Greens didn't try any coups or assassinations at Court. As for why Viserys didn't summon Rhaenyra, I'm guessing it was for the same reason he didn't make her Hand after Lyonel Strong's death:
The governance of the realm was a daunting task; the king needed a strong, capable Hand to shoulder some of his burdens. Briefly he considered sending for Princess Rhaenyra. Who better to rule with him than the daughter he meant to succeed him on the Iron Throne? But that would have meant bringing the princess and her sons back to King’s Landing, where more conflict with the queen and her own brood would have been inevitable. He considered his brother as well, until he recalled Prince Daemon’s previous stints on the small council.
Its a pretty poor rationale, but I guess that's Viserys for you?
@@Mj_Jetson
Put like that Viserys did behave very irresponsibly, but he'd been in poor health for years and presumably didn't expect to die so suddenly.
Plus of course his Green Small Council would be sure to advise in The strongest terms against recalling Rhaenyra.
I can see why he let things drift.
If you want to increase the amount of views for your next video, you could start a new series "Overanalyzing the Dance of the Dragons" (with maybe an updated thumbnail), which would pull in people who are interested in the Dance, but might otherwise get scared of by the 27 preceding videos.
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The thing about the pearl ring that stood out to me was that it’s a choking hazard for that kid…but yeah probably not thematically relevant
"And which old man will I be fighting?"
THIS old man.
Pearl ring, water? You only get pearl from water/so a house close to water gave it to him. Any houses know for pearls?
I looked into it and the best I could find is that the Summer Isles is well known for pearls, so possibly acquired through trade, which would beg to question which house bought the ring.
@@dyar648 good job/work.
@@stupidminotaur9735 If it helps, on the ASOIAF wiki pearls are also supposed to represent fertility, could Viserys have been subconsciously planting suggestions that his grandchildren should have a lot of children? Or at the very least something along those lines idk idk
@@dyar648 i was also thinking of any houses that had a clam/oyster in their signal, like a small knightly house with a larger overlord house and thats the house.
Anybody else find it very sus that Viserys who’s not in good shape but still well enough to rule, his health takes a dramatic decline as soon as Orwyle arrives? I think Orwyle was sent for when Viserys complains about chest tightness. Gyldayn just conveniently forgot to mention it. Just like Yandel never mentions that it was Gowan who was the last person to interact with Aenys before he collapsed and died. Aenys gets incredibly sick under Gowan’s care, Visenya actually helped Aenys get better, Gowan would be the one to deliver the messages to Aenys (which I guess Yandel forgot to mention) and Aenys dies as soon as he comes in contact with Gowan again. Yandel would have everyone believe that Visenya killed Aenys. If Orwyle didn’t kill Viserys by himself then he played a major role!!
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My boy, the Rogue Prince, got shafted in the rewrites.
We humbly request part 28,
No, we solemnly DEMAND part 28
Dragons can't fly over the wall; Alysane proves this earlier in F&B. Good video
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Iron Rod......Tee-he-he-he-he, GRRM has the dirtiest mind. Homie sired 29 kids on 4 wives, and deleted his last wife from exhaustion...... Poor lady. This guy needs to get himself a vat of oil and handle his business himself sometimes. Jaeherys might have felt bad for what he did to the poor young Beesbury, so he threw the family a bone. Also, keep your enemies close. Especially if they have a valuable skill you can utilize
I agree about Beesbury. That was probably his peace offering to the family.
I did wonder what was up with the Beesburies, with Braxton, Lymon and proximity to Oldtown... maybe Lymon felt grateful to Jaehaerys, for killing Braxton and making Lymon himself the new heir? If so, its pretty bad form to appear happy about your kin's death in asoiaf, and its not clear why this loyalty to Jaehaerys would translate to Rhaenyra, rather than to Aegon. Maybe, since Lymon Beesbury had been living at Court for most of his life, he didn't feel attached to him family and their overlords the Hightowers? (though he is a lord, so he's supposed to be looking out for the interests of his lands, and his Beesbury kin do feel attached to him and demand his release, even long after his death.)
The whole accident with Stinger is very fishy. my main issue was how come a 50 year old king , defeats a young dude who is addressed as one of the finest sword in his area? When the old king was young he did practice swordsmanship , but later .. we have few paragraph about his sons practicing , and nowhere we hear mentioning of their kingly father joining.
the whole trail was dangerous , the king might have being killed .
My guess is that Stinger was poisoned before the combat. Or the battle was a mock battle , like Ricard Stark had with the mad king. Braxton was chained or something like that , the battle was witnessed before small crowd of really loyal man, like king guards , and later they reported about "real" trail to make the king more badass.
PJ u da man!
Series entries are getting close to my age and that is not a bad thing
Hell yeah
Braxton was likely the son of Lyman himself rather than his nephew, as Jaeherys mentioned that Braxton had brothers. Lyman was Lord of Honeyholt, during his time of death as well.
The age for him being his dad is just off by a little. Braxton is 16 years younger. A little off for a 15 year old to be married. Not impossible but more likely he is an uncle.
Any chance that Lyman was already Master of Coin prior to Braxton’s exploits, and that Braxton was in King’s Landing with his uncle?
Certainly a chance. We don't know.
That would make sense, I don’t know what other reason Braxton could have for being in King’s Landing permanently with his house being in the Reach
perfect time. 🎉
Just an FYI on the title, it would be “Viserys’s” not “Viserys’”, you only use the apostrophe without another S when something is plural. So Chairs would be “chairs’”, but Viserys isn’t plural because it’s a name. Similarly, Charles would be “Charles’s” not “Charles’ “
That isn't necessarily the case. The rule is dictated by speech.
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This dude preston talk like he already know he the chosen one to finish these books when GRRM die. 😂🎉
Stop all this sideprojects and release the winds of winter (fan fic) 😅
Thats a joke but I might just post this under all your videos from now on 😂
Please move to Nebula or some other service that won't force me to watch three adds between each video.
Algorithm sacrifice!
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Daemon T and B are my favorite characters. I hope Jon snow becomes more like them when he is resurrected.
Claiming that daemon didn't do blood and cheese is so insane that I don't trust anything that comes from your mouth