@@Rahnonymous doesnt sac itself and replaces itself and doesnt pop but banishes and can be played going first and searches a whole archetype, literally same card
@@MqToxicninja You can't even use it with an established board unless you also run birth. Nobody sane is gonna tribute summon a fenrir for a single pop and search
i don't know, this sounded far more interesting when it was the idea of that i play only fenrir as win con deck, than having that random handicap. can a deck beat just fenrir, yes. can fenrir on its own win games when you draw 4 handtraps with it, probably also yes.
@@Hatzmanialand there may be no issue, what i mean is even though they can't out fenrir in engine any deck can play fenrir to out another fenrir so a deck being able to out fenrir ends up meaning nothing
It’s not supposed to represent a format. It’s based on the Dragoon challenge he did on stream a few years ago, where you would have to play through Dragoon + other disruptions. Also all the floodgates were at 1 copy in the deck
@@BatmannotBruceWayne1 I get that but it just seems unreasonable? Not every deck is gonna play like that and it misrepresents cards like Fenrir and Dragoon if your playing a deck like this. They’re usually supplemental to other strategies and I just feel it’s unfair to play with banned or limited cards to prove that another legal card deserves to be on the list with them. He played Imperial Order in the video which does deserve its spot on the list. Fenrir just seems like a non problem in comparison.
@@octokitty2560 why is everyone focusing on the IO he included as a meme, and never actually activated. The point isn’t to represent anything, the point is to a be fun little challenge for twitch chat to take part in.
@@BatmannotBruceWayne1 You’re probably right and I’m just looking to far into what’s supposed to be a fun interaction between chat and streamer. It just seem odd to me that more people have been calling out Fenrir as a problem card recently when it’s not seeing much success.
Adding another kash+having a crazy removal+1 card combo starter+is splashable in any deck and can burn all of the resources+free spsummon+if you just let it pop off you get full kashtira comboed before even going to the main part of the deck, ofc Fenrir is not a problem..
@@Tcgmaxxing I said threat, not that it isn't scary, Unicorn can banish a key extra deck monster, as well as let you get any lvl7 monster out for free not to mention an easy rank 7 summon
I like how Fenrir winds up being the least problematic card of this challenge half the time. Its main value is as a deck thinner going first, and going second it's basically a worse Pankratops since it can't dodge targeted OR field negation(I.e. Skill Drain) or beat over an Atk position Dark Magician.
@ foxxinrox The whole point is to show how strong Fenrir is by having the opponent play through it plus some number of interactions. Fenrir at 3 just makes it easier to open the Fenrir so you don’t have to reset as often.
@@dariuspenner2528 Except he explicitly uses the effect and grabs another Fenrir for the followup. I'm not saying he shouldn't, or that the video is bad, I'm just saying the "Hey, you're cheating by using banned and/or limited cards!" is a hilarious hypocrisy in this video.
@@BlakesGamez i May be wrong but, don’t the people who battle him know what he’s playing and can see his hand by stream sniping? To better test the real issue with kashtiras he should’ve done the test in ranked or casual duel
It feels almost like Quantal in part did not disprove Fenrir's power in the last duel since he himself used it, though I will give him credit that I didn't know they were playing with no banlist so I wasn't at all expecting to see full power Tear be brought.
It'd make them a bit worse going 2nd and easier to out in few situations, but I doubt it'll do much. The problem with the deck is that the lvl 7s have no summon restriction, not event hard opt on summon. They're still a free summon lvl 7 searcher with very good interruption and insanely splashable even with bad stats. They're not hard to out on their own (or in pure Kash), but as an engine, you'll have to deal with them as an addition to already good board, so atk won't matter most of the time.
i love how almost nobody took the test seriously. Farfa:"hey guys let's put fenrir's power-level to the test and see if this card is" half of the opponents:*craft a jank deck to specifically beat Fenrir-pass and nothing else*
I was the unchained player. This was really fun I will try the challenge again if it comes back. I should have linked off Yama before the battle phase so that I could revive Abominable from the GY. So slight misplay there. Also apparently Ms. Judge is an Omni negate lmao
fenrir and unicorn at 3 all day, no-one wants Arise-heart back. Fenrir add fenrir is cancer too, but much better than seeing fenrir add riseheart again
He gotta be taking it easy, wen I play against it 20 cards from my deck be removed from play and half my zones closed out DURING MY FUCKING TURN ON THE FIRST FUCKING TURN
Individually? Not really... Maxx "C" is powerful because of its ability to get you other powerful cards, whether it be combo starters, extenders, hand traps, or board breakers. Maxx "C" can't help you if your Deck technically needs 2 or more Normal Summons to pop off. Personal experience.
Bro I for real don’t know what they were thinking with Kash. I have never once suggested this and probably never will again but every single card except Shang, Rise-Heart, Kashtira Tearlaments, and Kashtira Scareclaw need to be banned. They are inherently problematic and toxic.
@@four-en-tee You are insane. First of all nearly all of it’s main deck monsters can be used in literally every single deck with no cost whatsoever that alone is extremely problematic but their effects are very strong and toxic considering how easy they are to get out I don’t even need to comment on Arise Heart.
I do not normally play Kash but its 2024 and Fenrir gets outted like a Kuriboh. My knee's shake for when Red Eye's comes to Master Duel though, if it gets back, I'll be taking a break. I can already see the Naturia, Appollosia, Barone, Red Eye's boards =/ And I don't give a F how many Kaiju you run, combo players are the same as stun deck players for that, no actually worse.
I mean I rather face him over any of the other Kash monsters, big whoop you banished a face-up card, most likely the card I literally don't need anymore because I just activated it.
To the people complaining about Farfa playing 3 copies of cards on the Banlist in some form and saying this invalidates the video, might I remind you that Farfa can't pick the cards in his hand in Master Duel. He would have 15 Fenrir in his Deck to offset the chance of needing to restart the Duel because it wasn't in his opening hand so having 3 copies of cards allows him to actually see cards his opponent needs to try and play through. As for the nature of even running the Floodgates and other cards, Fenrir is at his worst when combined with other problematic legal cards. It's not like he was playing Magical Scientist and friends featuring Kashtira Fenrir. Regardless, just because a card can be dealt with doesn't mean that its presence is acceptable and healthy for the game. Just because you can Trap Jammer a Selfdestruct Button doesn't mean that Selfdestruct Button being legal is a good idea.
Impressive that he kept trying to go for game after not blowing up chicken game. I was so sure he was gonna go into battle and wonder why he couldn’t hit you. 😂
I am so confused by the fenrir hate. Its an uncommon side-deck card in most decks (and rarely used in MD), and it just doesn't do as much as other cards. I don't get how this is somehow more powerful than a card like talent
The easy answer is that between the two Talent is a reactive card that equalizes the game state (and can easily bring you to victory). Fenrir is a proactive card, that you summon for free and gets you a raw +1, then it can eats a disruption as well as banish a card, then it can go over a lot of things in battle. And it's one of the most generic monster staples that can search itself and has got a searcher for it as well. So yeah, Fenrir is a free +3 basically. At 1 is fine, I wouldn't ban it imho.
@@YukiHeroYGO It's at 3 in tcg, and talent is wayyy more common. Fenrir really doesn't see much play, even in link strategies that could use the free body.
@@nopeno-s5r Yeah I was referring to MD, the difference w TCG and MD is the best of 1 format in which Talent does a lot more (helps a lot being a super generic spell card). Also the TCG has no Arise Heart. I could not care less about Fenrir or kash in general, my only personal problem is Shifter ahahah Farfa malding is funny tho
Fenrir is fine actually. If you can't see that it just means you prolly play a lot of casual which is fine. Fenrir is nothing these days against the meta and powercreep.
Of all cards it’s not halq, maxx c, kitkallos, pot of greed/delinquent duo, no it’s none of them it’s fenrir that is the worst card of all time no bias at all. (Yes I know he’s joking)
I'll be honest, I don't really get the whole Kashtira Hate. Yeah the deck is strong but it's by no means invincible, it's got its flaws like every deck does. Especially since it's a deck that can easily be niburu'd and it does tend to brick badly when it does.
Because Ariseheart and Shangri-Ira are some of the worst “draw the out” cards in the game, Unicorn is extremely toxic and Fenrir is arguably too strong as an individual card.
Macrocosmos on legs, blocking zones, banishing face down. All of these are really annoying. At least it has no negates so loses really hard to being able to make Zeus before activating any monster effect, book of moon, every matched, etc.
The deck was absurdly overcentralising in TCG and every game vs Kash is just "Did you draw an out to arise heart?". Kash also had Diablosis, which is why a lot of people still hate Kash. Unicorn's effect in innately tilting and is a form of interaction that you can't prep for. Arise heart is very annoying, being a walking floodgate and usually at least 1 banish. The deck plays dimension shifter, which a lot of people hate. Finally, many people just hate any deck that saw competitive relevance in the last 3-5 years.
Miss judge unironically put in more work than fenrir in his own challenge lmao
25% of the time it resolves every time.
I mean if cup of ace is pot of greed, miss judge is just a main deck baronne
@@dhanyl2725miss judge isn’t once per time face up.
So really she’s better if you think about it
Just for this challenge, Ms. Judge is putting up a lot of work for Farfa XD
Farfa with full powered Burning Abyss, “I literally can’t beat Fenrir it solos me.”
Some guy with a monster from 2003 and 3 equip cards, “ez.”
😂😂😂😂 fen sucks
@@Jerry4281It's literally just pank but for banish. It's 100% fine
@@Rahnonymous doesnt sac itself and replaces itself and doesnt pop but banishes and can be played going first and searches a whole archetype, literally same card
@@MqToxicninja You can't even use it with an established board unless you also run birth. Nobody sane is gonna tribute summon a fenrir for a single pop and search
@@Rahnonymous Banishes and stays on the bored. Pank has to tribute himself. Pank is fenrir @ home.
Now there is proof Chaos Max is more broken than Fenrir
Wait until people hear about metalfoes orichalc
Listen, I don't need to even summon Sparks to do damage
Fenrir rant counters will go crazy over this
Lmao Quantal said "lemme get that run back" and played Tear
Fenrir isn’t even the good Kash against tear
Unicorn butchers tear
@@geiseric222 For real banish kit and it's over
he played full power ishizu tear xD
@@geiseric222 Not with 3 Kitkalos :)
@@Greg501-he played 2 lmao
Official Fenrir challenge power ranking: Fenrir < Miss Judge < Tearlaments
Turns out Farfa was wrong again, what a surprise
Tiaraments strongest (TM)
seeing chaos max ftk was certainly a throwback
you do not know what ftk means
*otk
This is less of a "Fenrir Challenge" and more of an Aggro Challenge, starring Ms Judge, featuring Fenrir.
Wait I'm sorry what was farfa trying to prove again? Couldn't see it over all the floodgates and miss judge negates
Also saying Quantal was cheating with full power Tear when he literally had a set IO lmao
I'm pretty sure this is a show for entertainment and not supposed to prove anything.
@@escribendo6138 Still won't stop him ranting about fenrir :v
i don't know, this sounded far more interesting when it was the idea of that i play only fenrir as win con deck, than having that random handicap.
can a deck beat just fenrir, yes. can fenrir on its own win games when you draw 4 handtraps with it, probably also yes.
Not being able to out Fenrir is legitimately a skill issue ngl
fenrir is just a litmus test for whats a good deck really
@@Hatzmanialand not if the bad decks play fenrir as well
@@beegyoshi1685 oh no, they trade fenrirs. What an issue we have
@@Hatzmanialand there may be no issue, what i mean is even though they can't out fenrir in engine any deck can play fenrir to out another fenrir so a deck being able to out fenrir ends up meaning nothing
@@beegyoshi1685 i think thats fine as a mechanic
Full power tear could make snake eyes look like a joke
Same with full power Kash imo, even in it's heavily neutered state in MD Kash will still ruin Snake-Eye if it goes first
@@M1A2C.yes that’s how macro cosmos works
nah disagree, full power kash was not nearly as problematic. snake eyes can search kurikara btw.@@M1A2C.
I think pretty much anything that make can floodgates board with negate is overpower
Full powered Tear is arguably one of if not the strongest deck to exist
+ It soft counters it so of course it'll beat Snake Eye
i know people love to compare fenrir to pankratops but a face down banish is 10x worse than a quick effect pop imo.
And pank sacs himself. Sure pank us better into 1 scenario, and that's when skill drain is up. Fenrir is powercreeped pank.
“Fenrir is the problem card!” Plays banned and limited floodgates at three. What format is this supposed to represent?
It’s not supposed to represent a format. It’s based on the Dragoon challenge he did on stream a few years ago, where you would have to play through Dragoon + other disruptions. Also all the floodgates were at 1 copy in the deck
@@BatmannotBruceWayne1 I get that but it just seems unreasonable? Not every deck is gonna play like that and it misrepresents cards like Fenrir and Dragoon if your playing a deck like this. They’re usually supplemental to other strategies and I just feel it’s unfair to play with banned or limited cards to prove that another legal card deserves to be on the list with them. He played Imperial Order in the video which does deserve its spot on the list. Fenrir just seems like a non problem in comparison.
@@octokitty2560 why is everyone focusing on the IO he included as a meme, and never actually activated. The point isn’t to represent anything, the point is to a be fun little challenge for twitch chat to take part in.
@@BatmannotBruceWayne1 You’re probably right and I’m just looking to far into what’s supposed to be a fun interaction between chat and streamer. It just seem odd to me that more people have been calling out Fenrir as a problem card recently when it’s not seeing much success.
Wait for someone to rock up with full power Exodia FTK using pot of greed, graceful charity, and giant trunade.
Love subtitles calls Fenrir " FEN REAR"
Laughs at Blue Eyes, gets cooked by Chaos Max turn 1, yup sounds about right lol
** Farfa when he rolls a 1 **
"Fuck that, we reroll"
** Farfa when someone shows up with a banned deck **
"CHEATER LITERALLY CHEATING CHEETO"
Trains would've gone so crazy in this.
Miss Judge = Baronne de Fleur 13:40
So Miss Judge is most broken card, got it
I honestly think Unicorn is a much bigger threat Fenrir just let's you add another Kash to hand which makes it more scary
horrible TCG take
Adding another kash+having a crazy removal+1 card combo starter+is splashable in any deck and can burn all of the resources+free spsummon+if you just let it pop off you get full kashtira comboed before even going to the main part of the deck, ofc Fenrir is not a problem..
@@Tcgmaxxing I said threat, not that it isn't scary, Unicorn can banish a key extra deck monster, as well as let you get any lvl7 monster out for free not to mention an easy rank 7 summon
@@gamerwolffang2722 But objectively s not a much bigger threat than Fenrir, Unicorn is a nice engine piece, Fenrir is just custom tier card
yes unicorn is often better, just as engine rather than a board breaker. birth is really 90% of modern kash and its splashable
I like how Fenrir winds up being the least problematic card of this challenge half the time. Its main value is as a deck thinner going first, and going second it's basically a worse Pankratops since it can't dodge targeted OR field negation(I.e. Skill Drain) or beat over an Atk position Dark Magician.
"Noooo hes cheating!!!"
*Plays tcboo, rivalry, gozen, and imperial order at 3*
Not to mention Fenrir at 1 in MD, so he's literally cheating in his own challenge even without any other card.
@ foxxinrox The whole point is to show how strong Fenrir is by having the opponent play through it plus some number of interactions. Fenrir at 3 just makes it easier to open the Fenrir so you don’t have to reset as often.
@@dariuspenner2528 Except he explicitly uses the effect and grabs another Fenrir for the followup.
I'm not saying he shouldn't, or that the video is bad, I'm just saying the "Hey, you're cheating by using banned and/or limited cards!" is a hilarious hypocrisy in this video.
Guys chill out, this is a just for fun challenge, not to prove anything 😂
Fenrir must've had beef with farfa since middle school .....the lore thickins
I love that Fenrir played basically no role in all the duels. The thing that guaranteed Farfa's victory were the floodgates and the handtraps.
I really hope this was just a stream bit idea and he doesn't actually think this is making some kind of point or that fenrir is stronger than maxx c
So this video is just farfa proving himself wrong and going into denial about it?
What do you mean by “ proving himself wrong”?
@@normanvalenzuela3055 Farfa thinks Fenrir auto wins games but he's losing to rogue decks in this challenge
@@BlakesGamez isn’t he streaming whilst doing it tho? That kinda defeats the purpose doesn’t it ?
@@normanvalenzuela3055 what are you trying to say? What does streaming it have to do with anything
@@BlakesGamez i May be wrong but, don’t the people who battle him know what he’s playing and can see his hand by stream sniping? To better test the real issue with kashtiras he should’ve done the test in ranked or casual duel
It feels almost like Quantal in part did not disprove Fenrir's power in the last duel since he himself used it, though I will give him credit that I didn't know they were playing with no banlist so I wasn't at all expecting to see full power Tear be brought.
It was no banlist so Farfa could play 3 copies of Fenrir. We were all still expected to play under the normal banlist
I laughed so hard when Quantal played unlimited tear. That shit is hilarious
holy shit booba comments
Miss judge putting in that work 😂
How much of a difference would there be if they made fenrir and the other kashtira monsters 1900 attack?
Not enough to make haters not to hate them.
It'd make them a bit worse going 2nd and easier to out in few situations, but I doubt it'll do much. The problem with the deck is that the lvl 7s have no summon restriction, not event hard opt on summon. They're still a free summon lvl 7 searcher with very good interruption and insanely splashable even with bad stats.
They're not hard to out on their own (or in pure Kash), but as an engine, you'll have to deal with them as an addition to already good board, so atk won't matter most of the time.
makes them easy to deal with
Most broken card? But Called By is still legal.
i love how almost nobody took the test seriously.
Farfa:"hey guys let's put fenrir's power-level to the test and see if this card is"
half of the opponents:*craft a jank deck to specifically beat Fenrir-pass and nothing else*
2:41 Ben kei coming to teach the new kids how the job gets done
12:00 is fenrir doing anything this episode?
I always love the Pokemon music in the background ❤ its so like pleasant and nostalgic
I’m amazed they didn’t decide to ban Fenir WHEN they banned the Xyz. The card is absurdly broken on its own.
I was the unchained player. This was really fun I will try the challenge again if it comes back.
I should have linked off Yama before the battle phase so that I could revive Abominable from the GY. So slight misplay there.
Also apparently Ms. Judge is an Omni negate lmao
“Oh my gosh he milled agido!”
AGIDOOOO
Fenrir banned, Unicorn at 1 and Arise-Heart unlimited
or
Fenrir and Unicorn at 3 and Arise-Heart banned?
fenrir and unicorn at 3 all day, no-one wants Arise-heart back. Fenrir add fenrir is cancer too, but much better than seeing fenrir add riseheart again
Game 2 you had reactions off, your fenrir 100% would have asked for activation had you turned the button to "ON"
Fenrir sucks, its got less attack than dark magician
Quantal: wants rematch, and bring Tearlaments
Me: base
Quantal: also brought Merrli , Agido, and Kelbek
Me: You What!!!!
Tfw when i'm on the creatively bankrupt competition and my opponent is farfa
He gotta be taking it easy, wen I play against it 20 cards from my deck be removed from play and half my zones closed out DURING MY FUCKING TURN ON THE FIRST FUCKING TURN
imagine respinning because you don't want to loose
Loses by bricking with my fav deck. Pulls up with fucking full power tearlament
Oof! Spell spamming is a pretty good strat.
So what we have learned is Fenrir makes the game last longer than two turns
I love Farfa complaining about Quantal rolling up with full power Tear when man is also playing a banned a card that is banned in both formats
"He's cheating wheeze laugh" didn't he just rig/reroll the wheel?
Chainburn laughs in lava golemn to the challenge
I have to disagree here with the most powerful individual card. That would have to be Maxx "C".
The definition of individual means that Maxx C won't do anything since otherwise it's no longer "individual" card if you use any of the cards you drew
Individually? Not really... Maxx "C" is powerful because of its ability to get you other powerful cards, whether it be combo starters, extenders, hand traps, or board breakers. Maxx "C" can't help you if your Deck technically needs 2 or more Normal Summons to pop off. Personal experience.
Those who use Fenrir have no skill and are delusional if they think those shouldn’t be banned.
Clearly, Farfa never read Painful Choice if he thinks Fenrir and Maxx "C" are the strongest cards in Yu-Gi-Oh!
Bro I for real don’t know what they were thinking with Kash. I have never once suggested this and probably never will again but every single card except Shang, Rise-Heart, Kashtira Tearlaments, and Kashtira Scareclaw need to be banned. They are inherently problematic and toxic.
Kash is fine
@@four-en-tee You are insane. First of all nearly all of it’s main deck monsters can be used in literally every single deck with no cost whatsoever that alone is extremely problematic but their effects are very strong and toxic considering how easy they are to get out I don’t even need to comment on Arise Heart.
Would locking it he any better or no?
@@punchyboi6915 They cant lock without a very specific set of cards. And with this set up they wont be able to easily even make Shang
This makes me wish the dragoon challenges from streams were turned into videos even more
Omega fenrir counter: 1
Can someone please tell me the name of the song from the first minutes of the video please he uses it on like every video
"Yu-Gi-Oh!'s Most Broken Card Needs To Go" KEKBye Miss Judge :(
Im confused as to why he didnt just fenrir the kitkallos
now i hope there is a challenge against Snake-eye full pow + colossus
You say cheating? I say using all of your resources 🤣
I do not normally play Kash but its 2024 and Fenrir gets outted like a Kuriboh.
My knee's shake for when Red Eye's comes to Master Duel though, if it gets back, I'll be taking a break.
I can already see the Naturia, Appollosia, Barone, Red Eye's boards =/ And I don't give a F how many Kaiju you run, combo players are the same as stun deck players for that, no actually worse.
See? Fenrir is easily played around and is not a good card!
I mean I rather face him over any of the other Kash monsters, big whoop you banished a face-up card, most likely the card I literally don't need anymore because I just activated it.
How many counters does this add to the fenrir rant count?
And this is why Fenrir should be at 3 in every format
I'd honestly say while Fenrir is stronger, Unicorn is more terrifying. So many 1 ofs in the extra deck.
17:33 *AGIIIIIDDDDOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!* 😃😃😃😃😃😃😃
No way he said cheating but playing io as if that card isn’t banned everywhere lmao
These challenges are so cool! Maybe do them with other cards too :0
God forbid red-eyes and dark magician get anything
To the people complaining about Farfa playing 3 copies of cards on the Banlist in some form and saying this invalidates the video, might I remind you that Farfa can't pick the cards in his hand in Master Duel. He would have 15 Fenrir in his Deck to offset the chance of needing to restart the Duel because it wasn't in his opening hand so having 3 copies of cards allows him to actually see cards his opponent needs to try and play through.
As for the nature of even running the Floodgates and other cards, Fenrir is at his worst when combined with other problematic legal cards. It's not like he was playing Magical Scientist and friends featuring Kashtira Fenrir.
Regardless, just because a card can be dealt with doesn't mean that its presence is acceptable and healthy for the game. Just because you can Trap Jammer a Selfdestruct Button doesn't mean that Selfdestruct Button being legal is a good idea.
quantal proved a point, he needed fenrir to beat fenrir kekw
I believe before this video the fenrir rant counter was at 7 correct? I will leave this comment to help as a checkmark
He really hates fenrir man
That whole fking broken archetype needs to go.
Impressive that he kept trying to go for game after not blowing up chicken game. I was so sure he was gonna go into battle and wonder why he couldn’t hit you. 😂
Oh it’s just Dragoon challenge 2.0
Quantal be like 😡😡😡😡
Tries a Fenrier challange.
Immedietly gets OTK'd by fucking Blue Eyes Chaos Max Dragon.
Lol.
Lamo even.
Tear > miss judge > tcboo > fenrir
Fenrir is broken yeah but snake eyes need to go first
Play vs Fenrir, simply normal summon Razen
I am so confused by the fenrir hate. Its an uncommon side-deck card in most decks (and rarely used in MD), and it just doesn't do as much as other cards. I don't get how this is somehow more powerful than a card like talent
The easy answer is that between the two Talent is a reactive card that equalizes the game state (and can easily bring you to victory). Fenrir is a proactive card, that you summon for free and gets you a raw +1, then it can eats a disruption as well as banish a card, then it can go over a lot of things in battle. And it's one of the most generic monster staples that can search itself and has got a searcher for it as well.
So yeah, Fenrir is a free +3 basically.
At 1 is fine, I wouldn't ban it imho.
@@YukiHeroYGO It's at 3 in tcg, and talent is wayyy more common. Fenrir really doesn't see much play, even in link strategies that could use the free body.
@@nopeno-s5r Yeah I was referring to MD, the difference w TCG and MD is the best of 1 format in which Talent does a lot more (helps a lot being a super generic spell card). Also the TCG has no Arise Heart. I could not care less about Fenrir or kash in general, my only personal problem is Shifter ahahah
Farfa malding is funny tho
Also Maxx C is a big offender but in any argument honestly lol
@@YukiHeroYGO I agree arise-heart should be banned, but fenrir could go to 3 and I couldn't care less
Fenrir + fartfa = fartrear
Fenrir is fine actually. If you can't see that it just means you prolly play a lot of casual which is fine. Fenrir is nothing these days against the meta and powercreep.
Ms. Judge Turbo deck profile next pls
People tried to tell me Fenrir wasn’t the most overpowered card in a vacuum ever printed. I’m glad at least someone else agrees with me on this topic
I beg you, read any good archetypes boss monster... or if that's too hard read any banned ED card
They all make Fenrir look like a vanilla
@@SammyK-jt3vv I said Fenrir in a vacuum as a solo card. Boss monsters can’t just be special summoned. They typically have restrictions.
Maxx C wants to know your location
Episode 2 just play 3 copies of threatening roar and 3 thunder of ruler
4:18 world champ diff
Meanwhile in OCG
Fenrir is completely fine. Its really not been an issue here in the tcg for months. This is cope.
Of all cards it’s not halq, maxx c, kitkallos, pot of greed/delinquent duo, no it’s none of them it’s fenrir that is the worst card of all time no bias at all. (Yes I know he’s joking)
Naaaa fenrir goes awesome with my Nordic deck and most meta only uses 1 or none
Since SP releases make it the SP challange next time
I'll be honest, I don't really get the whole Kashtira Hate. Yeah the deck is strong but it's by no means invincible, it's got its flaws like every deck does. Especially since it's a deck that can easily be niburu'd and it does tend to brick badly when it does.
Because Ariseheart and Shangri-Ira are some of the worst “draw the out” cards in the game, Unicorn is extremely toxic and Fenrir is arguably too strong as an individual card.
Macrocosmos on legs, blocking zones, banishing face down. All of these are really annoying. At least it has no negates so loses really hard to being able to make Zeus before activating any monster effect, book of moon, every matched, etc.
The deck was absurdly overcentralising in TCG and every game vs Kash is just "Did you draw an out to arise heart?". Kash also had Diablosis, which is why a lot of people still hate Kash. Unicorn's effect in innately tilting and is a form of interaction that you can't prep for.
Arise heart is very annoying, being a walking floodgate and usually at least 1 banish. The deck plays dimension shifter, which a lot of people hate. Finally, many people just hate any deck that saw competitive relevance in the last 3-5 years.
this is the dumbest idea. Also why not baron instead?