Nice video, but the real problem i was hoping to see here is stopping. Like you run on to a red light. Can you find neutral in that situation ? Or you go 70kmh and you come across something on the road and you have to brake instantly. If you just hit the brake the engine will turn off , blocking your rear wheel... and that can be a big problem on such speed.
The engine won’t die out until your rear wheel stops moving if you are in gear. Finding neutral is pretty straight forward, the transmission is happy to pop into neutral coming down from second without a clutch. You can stall the engine going very slow in a high gear because the engine is below idle speed.
My motorcycle doesn't stall really fast going from neutral to first with a broken cable so I can actually pull away it just bucks and looks like I'm a noob
Try finding that sweet spot between acceleration and deceleration. As you roll off throttle (slowly) apply light pressure downward on the shift lever. The transmission must be "unweighted" as in not engaging either edge of a gear because it is that pressure on the gear that will keep it locked in place. Good luck and be gentle on the transmission as you try this.
I think he only showed clutchless up shifting. You CAN do clutchless down shifting, but it's a lot harder. You basically have to roll off for a split second and then blip the throttle whole you're kind of in the false neutral part of the shift. I've never been able to do it without making the transmission cry though
@@Hotrob_J The trick is to toe the shifter the moment you blip the throttle, don't wait for the engine rev up in response to your throttle input. The transmission is unloaded and able to slip at the point where the tachometer stops to change direction from moving left to moving right. From that point, the finesse is finding exactly how much to blip the throttle to ensure smooth downshifts. Too little or too much will unsettle the engine.
Yes and no. If done correctly, no. If done poorly, yes. It's much easier to clutchless shift from second gear onward but shifting clutchless first to second is hard to master.
I’m so glad I know this know but dear god that poor thing 😢 I don’t think it liked that. Super great information. I’m enjoying these on bike fpp videos. I really like clutchless shifting this bike, I hear some people say it’s not negative and some people say it’s okay to do. Any thoughts on if it’s okay?
I actually have come to enjoy clutchless shifting once into second gear! It’s not damaging if done correctly and that’s part of the fun I guess. Figuring out the timing for seamless pulls. Of course be careful and take feedback from the bike. Glad you like the fpp
Stand on the ground and unload the bike when trying to start in gear without a clutch. Left foot on ground and right foot on brake. You unload the bike by 50% and don’t stress the components as much.
Hey man excuse me I’ve got a question … Today I was riding on my bike but suddenly I stoped and I noticed that the bike was trying to move forward, even I was pulling the clutch (I’m starting to think that maybe I have to change the clutch but I’m not sure). The bike was trying to move but with not too much force, so basically the cluth is doing half of its job, but maybe you can help me with it, do I have to take a look to something specific ? Or should I search a new clutch? Also I put the bike on the stand, then put 1st, I was also pulling the clutch but the wheel was moving as if I wasn’t clutching (not too fast but it was moving) 😢
Hey, it sounds like your clutch cable has moved out of adjustment. Check the adjustment on the lever body at the grip. There’s a large wheel you can spin by hand to add or remove slack from the clutch cable movement. Try removing some slack at the grip end. Check out my clutch video below. The later half of the videos talks about adjusting the cable at the grip. You most likely don’t need a new clutch, just some adjusting. By your description it sounds as though the clutched isn’t fully disengaging. Link: th-cam.com/video/kb-_32OzLQU/w-d-xo.html
@@Calvinm I removed all the slack, also someone helped me pushing the clutch while I was pulling the lever but it was not going deeper (so it was clutching good), so now if the solution was not to adjust the cable of the clutch, then it’s maybe the clutch …
If you jack up the rear wheel, it's normal for the wheel to turn in 1st gear with clutch pulled just on account of friction from the oil. This can even happen in Neutral. You may notice the force is stronger when the engine oil is cold and more viscous, especially on a cold winter day. The bike may also be harder to push around with engine off in 1st gear with clutch pulled. As long as it's not enough force to move the bike, it's fine.
Sacrificing your transmission, clutch, battery, and starter to show us how it's done.
You sir, are a hero.
Thank you so much! My clutch cable just broke on me and I really wasn’t wanting to abandon my bike overnight! Now I can get it home.
Happy to help!
Thanks dude. You just saved me pushing my Forty-eight 4 miles
Awesome! Glad it helped!
I've got a FZ6 just like yours. It's my first bike and I love it. I've been watching your videos. Great work. Keep it up.
Enjoy the bike! Thank you, glad you like the videos 👍
I have a fz6n , and a buddy of mine told me that this was possible, and here you are doing it😊 thanks man!
Thank you so much for this video, i had no idea clutchless shifting was a thing. I was able to make it home.
Made it home. Thank you.
saved my ass yesterday when my clutch lever snapped mid ride. Thank you good sir
Hi, I also have a fz6, 2006 model, and I'm wondering if you know why it won't start in gear, only in neutral. Thanks and keep it going!
It should start in gear as long as the side stand is up and the clutch is pulled in.
Can you make a video of Installation of the gear shift counter?
I’ll look into it!
Nice video, but the real problem i was hoping to see here is stopping. Like you run on to a red light. Can you find neutral in that situation ? Or you go 70kmh and you come across something on the road and you have to brake instantly.
If you just hit the brake the engine will turn off , blocking your rear wheel... and that can be a big problem on such speed.
The engine won’t die out until your rear wheel stops moving if you are in gear. Finding neutral is pretty straight forward, the transmission is happy to pop into neutral coming down from second without a clutch. You can stall the engine going very slow in a high gear because the engine is below idle speed.
My motorcycle doesn't stall really fast going from neutral to first with a broken cable so I can actually pull away it just bucks and looks like I'm a noob
For the people!!
I don't know how you're down-shifting by chopping the throttle. I have to blip/rev-match to down-shift on my bikes. 🤷♂
Try finding that sweet spot between acceleration and deceleration. As you roll off throttle (slowly) apply light pressure downward on the shift lever. The transmission must be "unweighted" as in not engaging either edge of a gear because it is that pressure on the gear that will keep it locked in place. Good luck and be gentle on the transmission as you try this.
I think he only showed clutchless up shifting. You CAN do clutchless down shifting, but it's a lot harder. You basically have to roll off for a split second and then blip the throttle whole you're kind of in the false neutral part of the shift. I've never been able to do it without making the transmission cry though
@@Hotrob_J The trick is to toe the shifter the moment you blip the throttle, don't wait for the engine rev up in response to your throttle input. The transmission is unloaded and able to slip at the point where the tachometer stops to change direction from moving left to moving right.
From that point, the finesse is finding exactly how much to blip the throttle to ensure smooth downshifts. Too little or too much will unsettle the engine.
Does clutchless shifting hurt your bike?
Yes and no. If done correctly, no. If done poorly, yes. It's much easier to clutchless shift from second gear onward but shifting clutchless first to second is hard to master.
Nice video and thanks. I have a question. For lower CC motorcycles, is the 2nd option good? Will that not damage the gears?
I’m so glad I know this know but dear god that poor thing 😢 I don’t think it liked that. Super great information. I’m enjoying these on bike fpp videos.
I really like clutchless shifting this bike, I hear some people say it’s not negative and some people say it’s okay to do. Any thoughts on if it’s okay?
I actually have come to enjoy clutchless shifting once into second gear! It’s not damaging if done correctly and that’s part of the fun I guess. Figuring out the timing for seamless pulls. Of course be careful and take feedback from the bike. Glad you like the fpp
Stand on the ground and unload the bike when trying to start in gear without a clutch. Left foot on ground and right foot on brake.
You unload the bike by 50% and don’t stress the components as much.
The service manual warns against clutchless gear shifting saying that it causes too much strain on the gears.
No shit, but it's either being stranded or putting some extra wear to be able to get home
Let's say you got to stop at a red light now take off again without the
Click the bike into neutral before stopping. After stopping, push the bike up to about 5ish km/h then click the bike into first and accelerate away.
carry a spare clutch cable
Hey man excuse me I’ve got a question …
Today I was riding on my bike but suddenly I stoped and I noticed that the bike was trying to move forward, even I was pulling the clutch (I’m starting to think that maybe I have to change the clutch but I’m not sure).
The bike was trying to move but with not too much force, so basically the cluth is doing half of its job, but maybe you can help me with it, do I have to take a look to something specific ? Or should I search a new clutch?
Also I put the bike on the stand, then put 1st, I was also pulling the clutch but the wheel was moving as if I wasn’t clutching (not too fast but it was moving) 😢
Hey, it sounds like your clutch cable has moved out of adjustment. Check the adjustment on the lever body at the grip. There’s a large wheel you can spin by hand to add or remove slack from the clutch cable movement. Try removing some slack at the grip end. Check out my clutch video below. The later half of the videos talks about adjusting the cable at the grip. You most likely don’t need a new clutch, just some adjusting. By your description it sounds as though the clutched isn’t fully disengaging.
Link: th-cam.com/video/kb-_32OzLQU/w-d-xo.html
@@Calvinm I removed all the slack, also someone helped me pushing the clutch while I was pulling the lever but it was not going deeper (so it was clutching good), so now if the solution was not to adjust the cable of the clutch, then it’s maybe the clutch …
If you jack up the rear wheel, it's normal for the wheel to turn in 1st gear with clutch pulled just on account of friction from the oil. This can even happen in Neutral. You may notice the force is stronger when the engine oil is cold and more viscous, especially on a cold winter day. The bike may also be harder to push around with engine off in 1st gear with clutch pulled. As long as it's not enough force to move the bike, it's fine.