kwempe my man... you make removing the vacuum pipe look sooo easyyyy!! Mine dont budge! tried contacting you on the forum but looks like you havent been on for a while. hope you're ok mate
Not been back here for a while, yes two thermostats, the EGR one is more prone to failure that the main one. This covers the M47 and M57 engines so 2.0 litre and 3.0 litre and the EGR thermostat comes with a new O ring so I am more than happy the throw the old one away, I would never re-use an O ring in any case
kwempe nice vid gonna try this tomorrow, car won't preform a dpf regen so think this might be the issue? Tried all elder, E92 325d btw with 77k on the clock, thanks dude
Check your glow plugs work as well, this can be done on diagnostics. Apparently you need 4 out of 6 or 3 out of 4 depending how many cylinders you have. The glow plug controller tends to fail at around 50,000 miles so none of them work...
That is way too cool, my 330d that replaced this runs at just over 90 degrees (measured on diagnostics), could well be why it won't regen. You do know there is a second thermostat too? It's not as easy as this one, it's under the turbo intake hose..
kwempe yeah the main stat? how do I know which stat needs replacing or is it a case of replace one and check the temp on diagnostic tool and if it's still low change the other? how long should a 325d take to get up to optimal temp? I only drive 20 mins to work mostly in traffic with a few dual carriageways, no motorway at all really
@DavieBellshill Yup it is an E60. The E39 is similar but on the E39 the vacuum pipe goes into the pump a bit lower so is a little more difficult to remove.
@Mat3j87Bleeding should always be done after work on a cooling system as should topping the expansion tank up, however I chose to leave that and removing the engine cover too so I can have a simple, short clip. In practice you are very unlikely to need to bleed just by changing this. There is another bleed screw hidden under the EGR valve by the way.
I just did this. I had to bend the lifting hook on the engine a little to get the vacuum pipe disconnected from the vacuum pump. One of my thermostat bolts snapped even before I got to torquing them down. A2 stainless steel, yeah right.. I'm going to buy marine grade A4-stainless steel bolts and make sure I won't have any problems later.
@raulassis1 Works on an E39 5 series but NOT on an E60. The E60 has an electric throttle flap and a pressure sensor to detect EGR flow rate. If the flow rate is too low it puts on the engine management light. An EGR restrictor can be fitted though but flow is only marginally less than normal.....
nice one,,, i may just need to check the hidden menu for coolant temp. its supposed to be running at 88 degrees I understand, if not then I'm gonna change the egr stat cos my heaters are not very warm. Ive set it to hot on the idrive but its no where near as hot as my e46 coupe I used to have. That was positively boiling whereas my e60 is luke warm.
Hi kwempe pal i tried this on a m47 e60 520d. The first hose that you took out that you unscrewed and lifted up... mine would not lift up and out the way whatsoever to give me access to the 2 bolts holding the egr thermostat in place. It was literally jammed really tight with very minimum space to move it out the way. My next option is to unscree the egr cooler etc to give me space. In your video you have made it look ever so simple. Is this for the 6 cylinder cars only? As with the 4 pot 520d it is a big struggle to get that 1 hose up and out the way without it getting hooked on the bracket that is right in the way for the egr cooler. Thank you in advance
Hi I have a problem with temperature on my e90 320d... The temperature doesn't go over 80c in city, and fall down to 65c on open road... today I have replaced egr thermostat ...And I have not solved the problem... Should I try to change the main one or something else is the problem? Sorry for disturbing.
+Vladan Stevanovic Yes main one is failing then. My BMW specialist said both should be changed. But a lot harder job. I would just leave the main one to the garage.
THANK YOU! But the first srew of your video sits at my E39 530D 2001 not in the top but at bottom of vacuum tube connector. Impossible to remove it, even with flexible screwdriver. Do you have any suggestions?
looking for a bit of advice,i have 330d lci and its been mapped with egr delete but im getting terrible mpg and have been told this could be the problem because of loss of temperature ,im no mechanic so any advice is most welcome,
Use either a scan tool or the hidden dashboard menu to check what temperature the engine is actually running at. Even in winter it should get above 88 degrees on a cruise. It may drop lower on tickover if the heater is on but it should always run at least that on a motorway. Low engine temperature destroys fuel consumption on a modern diesel so it's well worth checking
i''ve got an x3 e83 2.0d and it doesn't warm up in winter at all - changed the egr thermostat - issue persists. From what i've read, there should be 3 thermostats on this engine. could you at least tell me where the second (main) thermostat is?
If you remove the intake pipe from the turbo the main thermostat is under that, it is more difficult than the EGR thermostat but actually not to bad with the intake pipe removed. There are not three but two by the way, replacing the second one will almost certainly sort your problem, mine runs at 93 degrees all year round...
Could you tell me if the piston on EGR thermostat can be moved with the hand by default ? I pulled out the EGR thermos and i saw that i can move easly the interior piston..if i move it into exterior i cant blow on it.. and from interior i can blow easly.
I've just used your video to remove the EGR Thermostat on a 2006 320d (e90). I had driven the car up the road and back an hour or two earlier (only about 0.5 total distance) so I guess the coolant was ever so slightly heated. I took off the EGR Thermostat and blew through it, does that mean its faulty??
I just spent hours trying to move my vacuum pipe, bent the engine crane hook point and used multiple spanners and levers to try and bend the pipe without breaking it. In the end I failed and just gutted the new thermostats internals and put them inside the old thermostat. Does the vacuum pipe have a hidden retainer under the egr as I couldn't move it at all.
Brett Seedhouse hello Brett, I’ve experienced the same problem, but all you have to do is bend the engine holding bracket backwards, (screwdriver is your best bet of doing so) you should then be able to pull it out, don’t forget to bend the engine holding bracket back into place
What is the correct running temperature for an 530D E60 with both thermostat working ok? What was the temp before and after you changed the EGR thermo?
You should remove the EGR altogether and put a blank plate on the exhaust pipe that connects the exhaust collector to the EGR. That way no more soot to the intake manifold.
What is the symptons if that thermostat is faulty? how you can check if is that working? Someone said take it off and try to blow some air through lenghtways when its cold. I've just changed the main 'stat on my 320d m47 because it was running cold. there is some improvement, but still need ~15-20min to get the gauge to 12 o'colck. if this one is open can it cause slow heat up?
WARNING!!!!!!!!! ,on my e60 530D uk 2003 plate (nov 2003) ,it isnt the same!!! check your car first before wasting £40.00 on one ,even bmw give me the wrong egr thermostat going off my reg (same as this one) ,it doesnt even have one ,found fault to be hose running from vacuum resevoir on left to under the egr was split in 2 places ,luckily bm say they will give me full refund ,but always worth checking ,and the fault didnt show thru inpa
No it wasnt really hard. 20-25mins for the first time. You can clear the vacuum pipe the same way, a bit harder to move it upwards because of the shape, but not really a problem.
+Alan Pawollek the blue engine coolant is the correct one, at a pinch you can use the green coolant. But the red one is a no go. It's only designed for VW and AUDI Engines...
It would be nice to change big thermostat in 3 minutes :)
Excellent DIY. Tu vas droit au but et j’apprécie ce genre de vidéo. Bien joué et merci cela va me servir.
kwempe my man... you make removing the vacuum pipe look sooo easyyyy!!
Mine dont budge! tried contacting you on the forum but looks like you havent been on for a while. hope you're ok mate
Not been back here for a while, yes two thermostats, the EGR one is more prone to failure that the main one. This covers the M47 and M57 engines so 2.0 litre and 3.0 litre and the EGR thermostat comes with a new O ring so I am more than happy the throw the old one away, I would never re-use an O ring in any case
kwempe nice vid gonna try this tomorrow, car won't preform a dpf regen so think this might be the issue? Tried all elder, E92 325d btw with 77k on the clock, thanks dude
Check your glow plugs work as well, this can be done on diagnostics. Apparently you need 4 out of 6 or 3 out of 4 depending how many cylinders you have. The glow plug controller tends to fail at around 50,000 miles so none of them work...
kwempe yeah replaced them and the relay, no error codes but car just won't regen, running temp is around 65-70 goes up to 75 when idle
That is way too cool, my 330d that replaced this runs at just over 90 degrees (measured on diagnostics), could well be why it won't regen. You do know there is a second thermostat too? It's not as easy as this one, it's under the turbo intake hose..
kwempe yeah the main stat? how do I know which stat needs replacing or is it a case of replace one and check the temp on diagnostic tool and if it's still low change the other? how long should a 325d take to get up to optimal temp? I only drive 20 mins to work mostly in traffic with a few dual carriageways, no motorway at all really
never really warmed up, sometimes in the city at low speeds maybe. now i changed the egr stat as well and it sorted it.
@DavieBellshill Yup it is an E60. The E39 is similar but on the E39 the vacuum pipe goes into the pump a bit lower so is a little more difficult to remove.
Awesome video man thanks
@Mat3j87Bleeding should always be done after work on a cooling system as should topping the expansion tank up, however I chose to leave that and removing the engine cover too so I can have a simple, short clip. In practice you are very unlikely to need to bleed just by changing this. There is another bleed screw hidden under the EGR valve by the way.
I just did this. I had to bend the lifting hook on the engine a little to get the vacuum pipe disconnected from the vacuum pump. One of my thermostat bolts snapped even before I got to torquing them down. A2 stainless steel, yeah right.. I'm going to buy marine grade A4-stainless steel bolts and make sure I won't have any problems later.
Me 2 needed too to bend the lifting hook....
@raulassis1 Works on an E39 5 series but NOT on an E60. The E60 has an electric throttle flap and a pressure sensor to detect EGR flow rate. If the flow rate is too low it puts on the engine management light. An EGR restrictor can be fitted though but flow is only marginally less than normal.....
Superb, thanks for making this vid 👍🏻
does bmw e39 520d m47 engine has that egr tstat? i heard it only cames with auto gearbox on m57
This Video helped me so much! Thank you ;)
thanks buddy..doing this today...
Since you move the hose from the vacuum pump do you have to bleed the brake system after?
nice one,,, i may just need to check the hidden menu for coolant temp. its supposed to be running at 88 degrees I understand, if not then I'm gonna change the egr stat cos my heaters are not very warm. Ive set it to hot on the idrive but its no where near as hot as my e46 coupe I used to have. That was positively boiling whereas my e60 is luke warm.
Do you need to bleed the system after ?
Hi kwempe pal i tried this on a m47 e60 520d. The first hose that you took out that you unscrewed and lifted up... mine would not lift up and out the way whatsoever to give me access to the 2 bolts holding the egr thermostat in place. It was literally jammed really tight with very minimum space to move it out the way. My next option is to unscree the egr cooler etc to give me space. In your video you have made it look ever so simple. Is this for the 6 cylinder cars only? As with the 4 pot 520d it is a big struggle to get that 1 hose up and out the way without it getting hooked on the bracket that is right in the way for the egr cooler. Thank you in advance
egr tshat only comes with automatoc gearbox?
do i need to buy more coolent fluid to add it ? it wount come out that much i think
Hi I have a problem with temperature on my e90 320d... The temperature doesn't go over 80c in city, and fall down to 65c on open road... today I have replaced egr thermostat ...And I have not solved the problem... Should I try to change the main one or something else is the problem? Sorry for disturbing.
+Vladan Stevanovic Yes main one is failing then. My BMW specialist said both should be changed. But a lot harder job. I would just leave the main one to the garage.
THANK YOU! But the first srew of your video sits at my E39 530D 2001 not in the top but at bottom of vacuum tube connector. Impossible to remove it, even with flexible screwdriver. Do you have any suggestions?
did you manage to remove the hose? ive just tried today and it just doesnt move!!!!!
hi i change a crank shaft pully on a bmw diesel and the vehicle dont have power the dtc light comeing on what is causeing that?
You have a vid for the main thermostat?
After changing the egr thermostat on my 320D E90 the car cranks and will not start
My temperature at 90 degrees but dpf light comes up this is the second time now doesn’t seem like it’ll regenerate, any advice mate?
ODB and a good program, like insta or carly, u can regen there if not new dpf
@@MRTNLZL thanks mate i gutted the dpf out about 2 years ago and everything is perfect now haha
looking for a bit of advice,i have 330d lci and its been mapped with egr delete but im getting terrible mpg and have been told this could be the problem because of loss of temperature ,im no mechanic so any advice is most welcome,
Use either a scan tool or the hidden dashboard menu to check what temperature the engine is actually running at. Even in winter it should get above 88 degrees on a cruise. It may drop lower on tickover if the heater is on but it should always run at least that on a motorway. Low engine temperature destroys fuel consumption on a modern diesel so it's well worth checking
i''ve got an x3 e83 2.0d and it doesn't warm up in winter at all - changed the egr thermostat - issue persists. From what i've read, there should be 3 thermostats on this engine. could you at least tell me where the second (main) thermostat is?
If you remove the intake pipe from the turbo the main thermostat is under that, it is more difficult than the EGR thermostat but actually not to bad with the intake pipe removed. There are not three but two by the way, replacing the second one will almost certainly sort your problem, mine runs at 93 degrees all year round...
Could you tell me if the piston on EGR thermostat can be moved with the hand by default ? I pulled out the EGR thermos and i saw that i can move easly the interior piston..if i move it into exterior i cant blow on it.. and from interior i can blow easly.
I've just used your video to remove the EGR Thermostat on a 2006 320d (e90). I had driven the car up the road and back an hour or two earlier (only about 0.5 total distance) so I guess the coolant was ever so slightly heated. I took off the EGR Thermostat and blew through it, does that mean its faulty??
Can you clarify that this will or won't work on an E60? It looks like and E60 you are working on.
You emptied the facility prior to change track?
also, why did you have to replace the thermostate?
very good, helped me, done it.
Hallo.
Is there is no seal between the EGR and the metal part?
It has, comes already installed
hey whats up man, thanks for the video, but will this also work on a petrol model, 530i to be specific ?
did you lower the coolant level before opening the system?
How did you know that you had to change it? Any common symptoms?
Spent 2 hours trying to take the vacuum pipe out
I just spent hours trying to move my vacuum pipe, bent the engine crane hook point and used multiple spanners and levers to try and bend the pipe without breaking it. In the end I failed and just gutted the new thermostats internals and put them inside the old thermostat.
Does the vacuum pipe have a hidden retainer under the egr as I couldn't move it at all.
Brett Seedhouse hello Brett, I’ve experienced the same problem, but all you have to do is bend the engine holding bracket backwards, (screwdriver is your best bet of doing so) you should then be able to pull it out, don’t forget to bend the engine holding bracket back into place
@@mjj1643 thank you mate. Screw driver helped to bend it.
I cannot remove the hose from the vacuum pump. It just won't move :(.
What is the correct running temperature for an 530D E60 with both thermostat working ok? What was the temp before and after you changed the EGR thermo?
mrtamastorok I have now temperature between 50-60°. Tommorrow Im going to change egr termostat and we will see. Correct temperature should be +- 90°
Nice thanks.....
@kwempe Then you are stuck with cleaning the intake manifold every 2 years or so :(
Hi there is this the same as the 325D?
+Jon Peters Yep. Same location, fittings, etc. Did this on my 335D and this video was very helpful.
You should remove the EGR altogether and put a blank plate on the exhaust pipe that connects the exhaust collector to the EGR. That way no more soot to the intake manifold.
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What is the symptons if that thermostat is faulty? how you can check if is that working? Someone said take it off and try to blow some air through lenghtways when its cold. I've just changed the main 'stat on my 320d m47 because it was running cold. there is some improvement, but still need ~15-20min to get the gauge to 12 o'colck. if this one is open can it cause slow heat up?
mikle65 You can look to hide menu and watch engine temperature...if one of them doesnt work, you get soon problem with particle filter...
@raulassis1
Unfortunate but true mate :(
WARNING!!!!!!!!! ,on my e60 530D uk 2003 plate (nov 2003) ,it isnt the same!!! check your car first before wasting £40.00 on one ,even bmw give me the wrong egr thermostat
going off my reg (same as this one) ,it doesnt even have one ,found fault to be hose running from vacuum resevoir on left to under the egr was split in 2 places ,luckily bm say they will give me full refund ,but always worth checking ,and the fault didnt show thru inpa
hello My bmw 330d e92 working on ~103 degree in traffic it's correct?
Rolandas Barkauskas
If this happens on a hot summer day then yes, the 3 liter diesels stay at around 90-100 degrees
No it wasnt really hard. 20-25mins for the first time. You can clear the vacuum pipe the same way, a bit harder to move it upwards because of the shape, but not really a problem.
this is just for 520d . 530d is different
bro that engine has 2 thermostats :D
Yes it does!
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I think you have the wrong coolent fluid inside. Red is not for BMW.
+Alan Pawollek That's what I was thinking. Mine is blue.
+SGM 26 and that my friend is correct :D
Always take care of your BMW
+Alan Pawollek the blue engine coolant is the correct one, at a pinch you can use the green coolant. But the red one is a no go. It's only designed for VW and AUDI Engines...
+Sercan Samet Savran and Jaguars :)
what about yellow ?